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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:53:00

Disney, interesting, when he was back in congress he was more of a paul ryan chamber of congress republican guy. this is evolution addictive of the republican party change more broadly? does he see this as a way to get to the top, to get the presidential bed? absolutely. the other thing as it was a complete anonymous backbencher in congress. who ran on one thing, which was complete another nauseating to donald trump. i got on the nomination. in an upset in florida and it got on the governorship. any propel themselves from the. her yes, rhonda santas is and now the strategy can be successful. again, he exists in a very friendly skate in a very friendly in very sort of box dominated echo chamber places like the village. of exploiting that to a great. and not anybody can do that. it s not necessarily a winning message and any kind of swing

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:10:00

Recommend nothing in the biden case. that could be wrong, because there s independent counsels. have a way of kind of go, becoming their own sort of story, branching out to others, et cetera. he s gonna take a long time i think to get a staff together. this could hover over the white house for a while. nevertheless, i think that garland anticipates will be in a position down the line to say i, did what her recommended, i did with smith recommended. and that will equate to trump charges and no biden charges. it s fascinating what you re seeing there about the likelihood. to be clear, you believe that appointing her to investigate biden increases not decreases the chance of jack smith recommending criminal charges against donald trump? i d say it doesn t have any effect. when hopes it doesn t have any effect, but smith is already

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:50:00

Issues. it makes their base angry, outraged, and worked up. it s always been a part of the conservative movement going back to reagan, nixon. when did become the only part? the life cycle of this seems to have become much tighter in recent years. trump turbocharge, this trump was, the staff windmills killing beers. when power is going to ruin our electric grids. hamburgers, dr. seuss, all these alleged huge threats to america, and this actually can be quite effective. donald trump s wall, which was a pipe dream from the beginning. he tried to build mexico wasn t gonna pay for. at what this was symbolically something that was gonna keep immigrants from coming into the country. this is essentially a game that republicans have gone the while on. maybe a few too many times. it becomes an object of radical, anna, i had a hamburger just

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:03:00

Fraud. there s the ongoing justice department, the investigation into january the, six with a special counsel jack smith is investigating whether anyone committed a crime. by trying to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power, also under the special counsel s view, is of course the trump documents investigation. about whether donald trump mishandled classified information by storing a trove of top secret government documents at his florida beach club, and pretending they were his. now let s pause here for a second, as i m sure you are well aware. it s recently been discovered, that the current president joe biden, also had several classified documents improperly kept at the office first thing tank. and at his delaware home. documents from the time he was vice president, right after joe biden s lawyers after discovering the documents at his office. a lead turned over the documents, and searched all of joe biden s offices and properties to make

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:13:00

Attacking mr. her saying that he used to work with chris wray, who, by the, way was appointed by george bush and donald trump. yeah, don t forget the person who famously went after trump, he hates robert mueller also, a lifelong republican. you preempted my next question, which was going to be why do democrats keep appointing right wingers? let s talk about another right-wing, chair of the house committee, jim jordan, who wrote a letter to merrick garland today, announcing he is launching his own investigation into the house judiciary, by the house judiciary committee, into the biden documents. these are the same republicans, same jim jordan who didn t care about documents up until, you know, a few hours ago. that s what they said before the biden documents were discovered, they don t care about improperly stored documents. what is the real motivation for the jorden investigation? what do republicans get out of that? they are forming a law form to defend rioters at the capitol. the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:38:00

Than wants and the same election. or simply put, voter fraud. there was to republican trump loving stronghold of the villages, in florida where a total of four people would end up being charged with voter fraud. for allegedly voting in florida and in their other state of residents in the 2020 election. three of the for those arrested, were registered republicans. the fourth was not affiliated with anybody. any party. notably, florida republican governor ron desantis failed to mention those cases in his showy press conference announcing voter fraud arrest. there was the pennsylvania man who pleaded guilty to felony unlawful voting forecasting an absentee ballot for donald trump and his dead mother s name. a republican arizona woman also pleaded guilty to casting a ballot in her dead mother s name in the 2020. election in ohio or local public beneficial admitted to forging his dead father signature on an absentee ballot. and voting again himself. we learned this summer that the husband o

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:13:00

And it s the upper hand. and so, i think sometimes we think that by doing these exercises it s going to please republicans, it s not, my colleagues are attacking mr. hur, saying he used to work with chris way. who by the way, was appointed by george bush, and donald trump. don t forget, the person who famously went after trump robert mueller a lifelong republican. i m glad you preemptive my next question. which was gonna be why democrats keep appointing red right wingers. let s talk about jim jordan, who wrote a letter to mary garland today announcing days lodging his own investigation into the house judiciary by the house judiciary pretty into the biden documents these are the same republicans who didn t care about documents up until a few hours ago. that s what they said before the biden documents were discovered, they don t care about improperly stored documents.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:49:00

Like abortion rights, voting rights, and protecting democracy. , voright now america only has e political party focused on issues that actually impact the lives of the voters. and another that has maybe inhaled a little too much gas. joining us now is mark leibovitz, staff writer at the atlantic and author of thank you for your servitude, donald trump s washington and the price of submission. mark, the republican party loves to seize on these issues, because it makes their base angry, outraged and worked up. it s always been part of the conservative movement going back to reagan, going back to nixon. when did become the only part? the life cycle of this seems to have become much tighter in recent years. i think trump sort of turbocharge this. trump was so i mean, america used to have this wrapped about when power killing words. when power is going to ruin our electric grids and everything. hamburgers, dr. seuss, all these alleged threats to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:50:00

America this actually can be quite effective. donald trump s wall, which we sort of a pipe dream from the beginning he tried to build it. mexico was never going to pay for it but this was symbolically something that was going to keep immigrants from coming into the country. this is essentially, though, again that i think republicans have gone to well on a few too many times. it becomes an object of ridicule. and look, i had a hamburger just yesterday. i saw dr. seuss in a bookstore two days ago. i actually had dinner from a gas stove tonight. don t tell anyone. this will be our little secret. you can only cry wolf so many times. it happens over and over again. this, essentially, has become republican messaging, as you said. it is. and it s all about culture wars. it s all about that red meat. because they have not got anything else to offer. personally, i m one of these people who says democrats should not run away from culture wars. they should fight them and win them. because t

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:39:00

Casting his wife s mail-in for wait for it for donald trump. while shenanigans from the 2020 election are still coming to light, we re learning a few more recent ones. we learned this, week a former state republican election official pleaded guilty to illegally using voters personal information to obtain absentee ballots in 2021. that s also known as voter fraud. the indictment describes the scheme in which the former official allegedly had voter sign an envelope, that was supposed to hold a completed ballot and then, he would, according to the, indictment filled out the ballot and submit them. this is the republican who is tasked with being the election commissioner for a county in upstate new york. you can assume he knows how elections are supposed to work. he s the second republican official in the same county, to plead guilty connection to a voter fraud s game you can t make this stuff up. a local republican councilwoman pleaded guilty to identity

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