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January 15, 2017
Ive been doing that about ten years now. >> michael is friends with john torres. and like everyone else ive spoken with down near florida, this is what he says about richard rosario. >> he was staying in johnnys house. he was there celebrating the birth of johnnys son. >> first the cop, then a pastor, now a federal corrections officer. this is starting to sound like a bad joke. but if what theyre all saying about richard rosario is true, this is not funny. >> yes. he was in florida. no doubt. ye...
January 15, 2017
Any alibi witnesses. im thinking if he gave police 13 alibi witnesses, surely a detective would have followed up. back at the crime scene, i asked bobby about that. >> if the suspect when you pick him up says i was in florida, and heres some information. do you look into that? >> i would say you should. maybe the detectives didnt have the time. it was busy back then. i hate to say this but it comes to dollars and cents. you have an a. case is closed. move on. >> are you kidding me? >> i need fin...
January 15, 2017
Its detective 101. >> the way that i took it was the cop said, confirm thats the guy. >> thats what i got from that. that hes saying once he picked here picked, the cops confirmed to him, yes, you got the right guy. >> is there a problem with that? >> yeah. i would never tell somebody, yeah, you got the right guy. >> whats the problem with doing that? >> because youre influencing him at that point. youre confirming that youve already convicted him. yes. you got the right guy. youre telling him t...
January 15, 2017
That was it. as a matter of fact the only thing i heard was that he was convicted after that. i said how can they do that? >> im listening to these people and they sound like theyre telling the truth. i continue down the list and meet up with shenoa rubies who was once a member of the family. she was married to johns brother back then and lived next door to john and jeannine. she said she saw rosario in florida the day the murder was happening in new york. >> do you have a very specific recollec...
January 8, 2017
The names michael sanchez and rob davis are about as common as john smith. eventually i find a possible address for robert davis. not in the bronx where george collazo was murdered but a different borough of new york city. were here to look for rob davis. he lives here next to coney island. we dont know if hes home or even still lives here. well just go knock on his door and see if hell talk to us. it can be nerve-racking when tracking people down. you never know what you can be walking into or ...
January 8, 2017
The cop said, confirm thats the guy. >> thats what i got from that. that hes saying once he picked here picked, the cops confirmed to him, yes, you got the right guy. >> is there a problem with that? >> yeah. i would never tell somebody, yeah, you got the right guy. >> whats the problem with doing that? >> because youre influencing him at that point. youre confirming that youve already convicted him. yes. you got the right guy. youre telling him this is the murderer. >> even though lead detectiv...
January 8, 2017
Attorney? he didnt want to discuss the case with me even though rosario asked him to. so i reached out to someone else who could help fill me the on this case. his office is a few blocks from nbc headquarters. >> ive been a lawyer for 30 years. >> chip first met rosario about five years after his conviction. a former classmate from yale law school asked if he would represent rosario on appeal for free. to chip it seemed like a slam-dunk case. >> i thought once i read the case, and i still think,...
January 8, 2017
Chip said both attorneys screwed up. >> the trial lawyers who represented richard just messed up. the first lawyer applied to the court to get expenses paid for a defense investigator to go to florida, that petition was granted and then she didnt do anything for a year. >> so the court actually granted rosarios attorney the money to send an investigator to florida. but the screw up comes when joyce heartsfield hands the case over to steven kaiser, the lawyer who would represent rosario in trial....
January 8, 2017
Me about it. but while lead detective gary whittaker arrested rosario, he is not the one who took statement. that was a different detective named irwin silverman. >> im on my way to yonkers, new york on, this gloomy, arraigny day to speak with irwin silverman who is retired now. apparently his nickname is silky and he agreed to see me. he asked as. we meet in his synagogue. he arrives wearing a wild t-shirt as we set up in the room. >> you have a big owl staring at me. >> were here to talk about...
January 8, 2017
"dateline" as he followed him. bobby became so frustrated with the case, he resigned from the job he loved. >> good luck. do something good with your life. >> i learned a lot from bobby. not just police work. he is one of those honest salt of the earth guys and he agreed to help me. bobby had not heard of the case. after we reviewed it, we met the south bronx in a parking lot. you look a little older since the last time. strangely enough, it is almost 19 years on the day of the murder and even t...