to the russians. we no angela merkel has some concerns about that, because the trade flows between germany and russia both ways are huge, but so far, wolf. that test hasn't been put to the countries. they're still talking with one voight. maybe it's only that that's brought putin back from the brink. even so, i would put it this way. 200 points on the dow, it's scotch miss. it could disappear tomorrow if things turn nasty again. >> certainly could. this is a real volatile situation. richard quest, thanks very much. remember, you can always follow us on twitter. tweet me @warm frontblitzer. tweet the show @sitroom. let any step in with van jones and s.e. cupp. president obama's work is paying off he says have laid mer putin has hit the pause button.
>> which means as much as when russia hit the reset button. the debate starts right now. tonight on "crossfire", until pressure from president obama, is vladimir putin backing down? >> there have been some reports that president putin is pausing for a moment. >> is he proving his republican critics wrong? on the left, van jones. on the right s.e. cupp. in the crossfire, howard dean, former presidential candidate, and paul wolfowitz, a former deputy defense secretary. is the obama doctrine working? are some republicans undermining the president abroad? tonight on "crossfire." welcome to "crossfire." we're continuing cnn's breaking news coverage of the crisis in ukraine. i'm s.e. cupp on the right. >> we have a former presidential
candidate and former pentagon official. today we saw big hits that the tough diplomacy with russia might work. kerry delivered a billion dollar package to kiev. behind the scenes, the obama administration has put together a crippling set of proposed economic sanctions. while the president is busy doing his job, his republican critics keep trying to undermine him. freshman senator and self-appointed foreign policy expert ted cruz writing under the headline language of fools -- have laid mer putin running rampant shows how the obama administration's abdication of global leadership is making the world a more dangerous place. thank you very much for that help in a crisis, ted cruz. ted cruz is taking cheap shots. meanwhile, his republican friends are actually trying to raise money on this crisis. instead of actually trying to solve it.
i just think that's terrible, s.e. >> let's moveon.org. here on kroich kroich, former governor -- howard dean and former deputy defense secretary paul wolfowitz. clearly, clearly president obama has underestimated vladimir putin. russia is stalling on syria, undermining our negotiations in iran, and now russia is invading ukraine. i'm not suggesting that obama has made putin a bad actor. russia has been a bad actor for quite some time, but can't you agree that putin has been emboldened by our weakness in that region? >> no, i don't agree with that. first of all, i think it is true that putin has not kept his word on syria. i think what putin's actions are
against international law. i think the president is doing the right thing. he's ratcheting up the heat, slowly enough that putin has a chance to back off. one problem with putin is not only he's broken the law, but he now has to back down an save face at the same time. he needs the opportunity to do that. the president needs to titan the vise, and not making it to -- >> some of the rhetoric is great, especially with what secretary kerry has said, the fact that he's taken the ukrainian foreign minister with him is a good thing. you can talk about tightening gradually, but there's i think we're long past the point where some firm action should be taken. let me be clear, the firm action is to begin to scare the 100 or 200 richest people in russia who
are the prop of putin's regime and have the money illegitimately. that's the money at risk. that needs to be done and done quickly. the brits, usually or stronger allies are putting the can i bosch. david cameron in a leaked piece of paper, said -- it was leaked today, said yesterday, that he wasn't interested in any kind of thing that might take russian money out of the city of london. >> talk about a message of weakness. putin is the problem here, not ted cruz. i have criticism of obama's behavior up to this point. i would say, for example, on this example, you know, putin looks at the red line in syria, the chemical weapons thing. he doesn't -- but the way to make him take it seriously is to do something now. if cameron doesn't like it, tell the british people that enabling london's theft of money.
>> i didn't say weakness. i said rhetoric and reality. >> duly corrected. >> isn't the reality that they face the same situation when putin ran into georgia, and they did nothing? >> two wrongs don't make a right where i come from. >> we should say something about american values and interests at stake here. and it is taking place in a very unstable where every country has large minority interested in it.
what would you have done difficultly this week, what would you have told him to do? >> i would go bad further. i would say don't talk reset with a man who's declared his goal in life is to restore the soviet union. i would not have whispered i'll have more flexibility after the election. >> fair enough. >> what would you have done this week difficultly? >> you start with evaluating him realistically. what do you think he thinks of our study? >> i really have no use for the russians at all. i haven't for a long time. >> i like the russians.
i don't like putin. >> the history of russia since the revolution has not been a pretty one in terms of their -- >> can i correct you on that for a minute? >> yeah. >> in 1994, a different russian president, boris yeltsin agreed with ukrainian independence. the ukrainance in return gave up their nuclear weapons and allowed the russians to have this base in crimea. putin is not a typical russian. he's a typical kgb cold war -- >> the point i'm trying to make is i do want to say that if i'm behind the scenes, i want to screen the russians carefully and slowly. i think the ukrainance have handled this incredibly well. they just kicked out an incredibly corrupt president who really had no stanton anymore. they have an unstable government, because they're trying to put this together. for them not to fire a shot was
very, very smart. they would have ended up where the georgians did. this is tough stuff. i don't have to tell you that. you've been in the seat. it's not a matter of saying we have to support the president. it's a matter of saying we need to give this president time to get to the result he needs to get to. i think running -- going too fast and too hard is probably a mistake. >> do you agree with the ambassador we should cancel our appearance at the g-8? >> eventually yes, but let's work up to that carefully. i assume somebody is telling vladimir putin, this is what you can expect in the next few days. if you don't do something to -- >> i don't think have laid march pew people tell putin -- >> there's always a back channel, always a way that somebody is talking to somebody in the kremlin. i presume they're saying this is what is really going to happen. >> let me bring up recent poll
numbers on president obama. he came into office in 2009 and said he wanted to restore image around the role, but this poll asked if americans think the president is respected abroad. in the five years he's been in office, it's dropped 26 percentage points president isn't that an indictment of the foreign policy? >> i think that's hard to say. almost every president, including his predecessor is at their nater of this time in the second term. if you think the president kicks his dog, he might get better numbers. >> don't you think the president has made some very serious foreign policy mistakes. we don't need to color the entire administration, but you would add miss -- his's made some mistake. >> i this was that was a mistake. putin bailed him out. >> a farce cal -- >> but that's on putin. we need to hold him accountable for that red line.
i think we need to do that. >> let me ask you a question. even looking at russia. if you look at what obama has been able to do, first of all, he didn't -- what he said was we're going to do three pragmatic things -- air rights over russia. he got that done. he said he was going to get russian table on iran. he actually has gone some things done here with regard to russia, and now the eu really is the one that -- how system obama's fault at this stage? >> look, you talked about what american public opinion, judging what foreigners think about the united states. i care about one foreign are at this moment and it's vladimir putin. he kind of gave his opinion, maybe is changing his mind, but the last statement is a warning that he will do it elsewhere in
ukraine. i think -- we're talking about how to manage risk here. no one wants this thing to blow up into a military confrontation, but peeten seems to think he can keep pushing and pushing. >> we're going to find out. in the next few days. he's going to stay where he is or advance into eastern ukraine. if he does that, i think you'll see some major stuff going on. we blamed obama and bush, but there's one person who also bearing blame here. i'll ask howard dean about her, next. [ male announcer ] we know they're out there. you can't always see them. but it's our job to find them.
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welcome back to cnn's breaking news coverage of the crisis in the ukraine. in the crossfire tonight, howard dean and paul wolf owitsds. today john kerry was in kiev trying to clean up the mess started business his predecessor. remember hillary clinton's russian reset. she had a prop and incorrectly translated slogan to go with it. >> we want to reset our relationship, as -- so we will do it together. okay? >> well, as we all knowing, our russians relationship was reset. we can thank hillary clinton for resetting it all the way back to the '80s, just as republicans like mitt romney, it turns out hillary clinton's defining moment as secretary of state could be this spectacular
failure. governor dean, was hillary clinton naive then five years ago? >> this is ridiculous conversation, s.e. >> it really isn't. this is going to haunt her for the next two years. >> these are talking points. it's beneath your show to put out partisan talk -- >> you don't think she's responsible for setting the tone of naivete with a clearly bad actor? >> first of all, it was joe biden's idea, and second of all the president's idea and that was before hillary clinton was even asked to be secretary of state, first of all. second of all, it is irresponsible not to talk to a major glob power and try to work stuff out with them. as van earlier said, what about the disarmament agreement, which is still successful, which the president had to get through, thanks to people like dick lugar, we prevailed. this is ridiculous washington talk. >> i hope you're right, i have a feeling this might come back to haunt her. >> i'm sure it will, and people
won't give a damn. >> people give a damn. >> this is a -- this is the ted cruz talk of the -- >> this is also s.e. cupp. people are talking about it. >> you don't want to be in the same seat with ted cruz. >> i don't mind. >> as we get to you, actually talk does matter and some of the talk from the republicans has been incredibly irresponsible. i want you to see this tweet from one of the great republican leaders, lindsey graham. he said it started with benghazi. when you kill americans and nobody pays a price, you invite this type of aggressio aggression, #ukraine. here is lindsey graham, a foreign policy guru sending out mean tweets, blaming the president for this. don't you think that's irresponsible? >> lindsey graham has to speak for himself. i think it is a risky world when people begin to think -- forget benghazi. people look at syria, and they see the president of the united
states says assad must go. he says chemical weapons mustn't be used. now they have agreed chemical weapons are used and we do nothing. frankly he was fighting the act, which have labeled some of the cleptocrats didn't. >> don't you think this type of stuff -- >> it's not like anything the democrats ever did. >> i know! where is this -- >> i've got one more indignant thing which i think is even worse, and this is from the head of the republican senate campaign saying president obama's leadership on the world stage has been marked by weakness, indecent and incompetent. say you're committed to restoring real american leadership by contributing today. they are actually raising money in the middle of a crisis. >> are you really sure that democrats have not done just that a million times? that feels an hypocrite cal.
>> do you think this type of stuff is appropriate? >> i'm not here to condone or approve. that's not the way i talk and it's not the way i like people talking about us in the administration, but believe me, the democrats in my experience do it three or four times more than republicans. so, you know, it's the pot calling the kettle black. >> maybe so. but honestly -- >> it's not the biggest issue of the time, by the way. putin is not judging his behavely what ted cruz or lindsey graham says. he's judges behave by what he thinks president obama is going to do. so far he hasn't seen much. >> i have not seen the republicans support the president on anything. name one thing that the republicans have supported him on. we did support your administration when it came to immigration and health care reform. we did try to stand with you on the wars. unfortunately the republicans have not stood with the president on anything. >> the republicans have supported the president in afghanistan. i don't know -- i think better
than democrats. the republicans supported the president on his asia policy, particularly his breakthrough in burma, which was a genuine success. >> and democrats did not support the president on his syria policy. they didn't vote for it, either. >> i know a lot of democrats who are privately unhappy, as maybe howard is privately, at what looks like, sorry to say it, weakness in the face of a villain out tie rant. >> just today, it's still teetering on the brink of disaster. take a look at this encounter.
i mean, that's intense stuff. today the russians moved forward with a preplanned intercontinental ballistic missile test which would been scheduled. i don't know that he had to do it today, but he decided to. isn't putin showing he's ready to go? >> we have to find that out. look, we're not going to commit troops to this. >> of course not. of course not. >> so that leaves one other possibility. that's some sort of diplomacy coupled with sanctions, which i hope is where the president is going. again, i revert to what i said earlier. first of all, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but i'm sure something is, because it always does. secondly, what the president should be doing, and i suspect he is, is tightening plenty i have advance notice. i think he's trying to avoid any rhetoric that he doesn't have to
get into. he needs to get putin to stand down and putin to save face needs to show he's doing it. so far, there hasn't been a shot aimed at another soldier on the other side. once that happens, it's almost impossible to put that the genie back in the bottle. >> are you confident we can talk putin down? >> not at all. i think putin has to see something tough in his face. we're consumed with who in the united states is to blame for all this. the man to blame is vladimir putin. the tragedy and we should emphasize this more than we do is that you know, boris yeltsin was comfortable ukrainian independence. things were going well till this thief became the tie rapt of russia. taking russia back into the 20th century. >> shevardnadze was the president. the succession of crooks. it wasn't till the orange revolution putin started to get
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. welcome back. it's time for the outrage of the day. i am outraged on behalf of 2.3 million of our fellow americans. these are active job seekers the republicans refuse to give any help or support to. you've got the job market that's still tough. folks need more time to look for jobs. plus, a little bit of gas money to get to job interviews. that's why congress should have extended unemployment benefits straight out. unfortunately, just before christmas, republicans said no way. that is unbelievable. they extended, these same republicans extended unemployment five times under george w. bush but under obama, the gop decided it wants to be the party of scrooge all year long. >> i wish that extending unemployment benefits would actually get people back to work. i'm sorry to say. >> helps them find work. >> it doesn't. my outrage. this is a warning to parents out there. please shield your children's eyes. i'm about to do something you don't want them to see.
ready? that there got a columbus ohio fifth grader suspended from school for three days. the charge? exposing other students to a "level two look alike firearm." yes, those words exist. i'd sure hate to see what a level three looks like. this is the kind of ridiculous childish progressive nonsense that makes it nearly impossible to have a real conversation about curbing gun crime because if you start with dumb ideas like this, how can anyone take you serious will i? let's also curb obesity and alcoholism by banning the hand gestures that accompany them. this is ludicrous. grow up, people. >> well, or the nra's gazillions of dollars they spend. >> this is going to solve everything. let's check in our fire back results. is president obama underestimating putin? right now 56% of say an yes, 44% say no. ambassador, are you surprised by the results?
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important meeting because i never even heard that. >> as far as you know, this is all of it. this is everything. >> this is everything. >> all right. so who do you believe? joining me now to break this down, former state department senior adviser. paul butler, professor of law at georgetown law school. former fbi agent. clint watts author of messing with the enemy. david k johnson and former watergate prosecutor. wow, we just have an embarrassment of riches. i'm going to go around the horn and talk about. i'm going to start with you paul. just on how this changes the legal case. trump tower meeting. june 3. donald trump jr. gets e-mail from rob goldstone saying moscow supports his father's candidacy. he responded if it's what you say it is, i love it. trump junior and goldstone finalize a date. same day trump teases this major speech. june 8 russian intelligence
these are places where he should be strong right now. indictments are not. the american public is going to make a decision on how they feel about donald trump in november. this is going to be an election that is responding to him, his personality. and i don't think it's going to go his way. >> it is interesting. i think it was a poll that majority of people think the russians have something on donald trump and that the independence are moving in that direction. nick, could don junior, if in fact cohen who said to paul's point that multiple people were in the room, so there is theoretically a way to easily corroborate whether he's been accurate about the idea that donald junior shared with his father we've got this meeting coming up where russian official is going to give us dirt on hillary clinton. this is what donald junior testified to the senate judiciary committee. this was september 7, 2017. let's listen. >> this is don junior being
campaign. with knowledge beyond this conspiracy upon which 12 russians have already been indicted. so what we're looking at is another block in that evidence that shows that donald trump was part of this conspiracy. >> and before -- and i'm going to go back to the legal bit for a minute. just for a moment. i want to go to malcolm. go back and remind ourselves again of what happened. you had this attack by russians on the dnc and then you have this cascade of events all taking place in june. in which it does appear the trump campaign is going to try to take advantage at minimum of that hacked material.
nit and act which is the sanctions against the russian. l when that information comes out. it's going to be even more damaging because there's no way the entire senior staff of trump's team, jared kushner, paul manafort, all of these people are in the room and would never report to donald trump. it's implausible. >> and the whole question about collusion has been did people around donald trump decide that they were going to help his campaign by accepting information that they thought could be helpful and hurt hillary clinton that is the question. whether or not he was a knowing
asset or unwitting asset. does this information if it pans out with cohen take us closer to the idea that donald trump was a witting participant in what happened to hillary clinton in the election system. the attack on it in 2016. >> i would take it closer. unless there is some sort of physical evidence, i think we've already talked about the phone call from that unknown number, or there is some other person that will corroborate what was said by michael cohen. this is going to be a really difficult angle. the other trouble with this is it's happening now in the public. we heard cohen say this. we're hearing from secondhand sources. it's a little bit troublesome to push too far in what the revelations are that will come from it. i think is more interesting is the number of tapes, the actual recordings of the president, the number of actual physical item, the technical indicators that are out there that connect to the president. i think if there's anything in
terms of this investigation that will ultimately show collusion will have to be some hard evidence that will play out. at the same point, when you look at how the russians do their influence operations, they're looking for unwitting and witting agents to help advance their goals. throughout all of this, what we've seen is some people around the trump campaign maybe knew more of what they were involved in whereas others potentially knew less. who just open the door and seem to be opportunity. many cases around the trump campaign, you see cases of both. i don't think we'll know until the mueller investigation really closes out and further indictments come forward and who fits into which of those two camps. >> before you move on, for those who don't know what the blocked number is, can you remind people what that is. >> the sequence of events around mr. goldstone and his contacts with donald trump jr., there was a series of phone calls that were made. one of the phone calls that were
made during that time after he had been contacted by mr. goldstone was a blocked in your opinion. unknown number. no one knows who he was contacting. in the context of this chain of events with this phone call, no one knows if that is the president or someone in the president's staff that also knew about what was going on. who was promotionally coming into a meeting based on the goldstone contact. >> absolutely. just to really quickly for those of you, this piece in the "washington post" by paul and greg, this is from april 27. and it's titled the new house gop report. remember the republican senate. the house intel committee came out with a report saying it's revealing about a good way according to democratic response to nunez memo right after donald trump jr. set up specifics of the meeting in trump tower, he had two calls to the number in russia belonging to a man. between those two calls, the democratic response for trump received a third call from a blocked number and the question is who it might have been. let me go back to nick.
does this now mean there needs to be a second set of hearings that at minimum to answer the questions and make it a very salient point, there needs to be reopened. either house intel or senate intel needs to recall don junior and try to call cohen. >> if they call don junior, he's simply going to lie again. don't expect you're going hear anything different from him. he's not going to suddenly admit that he lied to the committee. i would think that with respect to cohen, they're probably not going be able to speak to him. he's going to be cooperating with the mueller investigation. keep in mind that cohen in a lot of ways is corroborated right on down the line on what happened here. it's not like this is some incident that was taken out of nowhere that suddenly we think donald trump knew about this meeting. i mean, i think it was pretty obvious to everybody he had to know. he is the one that had the blocked number for starters. also involved in going back to
most recent indictment. he asked the russians in public to actually hack into hillary clinton's e-mail and her server an hours later that's exactly what they did. >> joy, i tell you where those blocked phone records are now. a few miles from here and reporter mueller's office. he already knows whether president trump was called by don junior and we all know a few words what the subject of the conversation. >> my panel is all sticking around. here's the other fun part. putin likes to take things that happen around him. there seems presumably to be a way to affirmatively find out if it were true. multiple people in the room. it will be interesting to know how this plays out. continue this on the other side of the break. we'll be right back.
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we also know for a fact he dictated don junior's cover story for the meeting from air force one. how does all of that work together. in papers in mueller. trump said he -- it was a falls narrative about the subject of ma meeting. and why do you lie? why you cover up if everything is on the up and up. so that's consciousness of guilt on president trump's part and we think about guilty of what? at least four crimes. campaign violations, computer fraud if trump knew the information was coming from hacked hehack ed e-mails. conspiracy to the united states and obstruction of justice. that memo, press release was a flat out lie. >> what's interesting, the committee to protect the president. these house republicans who have made it their mission led by the
chairman of the house intelligence committee and his fellow travelers there. they've tried to say this entire narrative is a lie made up on the basis of the christopher steel dossier. that essentially a political document designed to destroy donald trump is the basis for all of this. at this point, the calls are coming from inside the house. okay. michael cohen is mad and not going to take it anymore is a vanity fair headline. cohen, very knowledgeable about cohen. she reports there's a lot more to come. there's a lot. you're with someone for ten years. you don't think there's a lot. the trump organization is a big business and nobody in that place made a decision without his knowledge. so the idea, it's not christopher steel. it's his own people. >> he is known to be a micro manager. somebody who refuses to let go of the reigns in any way and as of -- didn't necessarily work for him as a businessman because he's been bankrupt 11 times. certainly doesn't trust expertise of other business people. it's not working as president. typically, this is why the
president has a committee to protect him within the white house. right. you're supposed to have people instead, donald trump is getting down into the weeds of even what a press release says and trying to control his own narrative to the point where it's his ego rather than the facts taking over everything. that ultimately that ego is going to be his downfall. >> david k. johnson, now you have the trump organization finance chief being called to testify against the committee. allen weisselberg. considered a witness. people said according to the "wall street journal." tell us a little bit about the trump organization and how it can get dragged in in you view. how involved is the trump organization in the political organization. >> oh, this is all one piece.
he's also not a detailed person. he issues directives. allen weisselberg's involvement with the trump family goes back to when fred trump was running the organization. let's not forget fred trump's business partner was willie, identified in law enforcement reports as a front for the gam bee know and behalf families. all the money, in and out. he may be in a position when he's called to testify invokes fifth amendment right. i'm sure prosecutors and you can talk about this, would in a moment give him immunity transactional or prof lactic because we don't care about him. he's not the focus of this. he knows where the money went and where the money came in and where it went out is critical to understanding what is going on here.
>> who would get them in front of grand jury. >> weisselberg is clearly one of those people. he was involved in every single one of donald trump's tax returns. you could look at the return and understand what happened without having a tax preparer actually explain the entries and take you through the flow of money and flow of information that goes from the underlying records, whatever those may be, into the returns. so in a sense, weisselberg is extremely important witness with respect to understanding how the money came into russia, went into the trump obama administration. how it was reported. what companies were used to hide that money, who was responsible for that, and then what happened to that money. so it's not just a matter of we
could all have his returns, but you really need somebody like weisselberg who can really explain to you what those numbers mean and the significance of everything that appears on those returns. >> and clint, you know, i think one of the things that frustrates a lot of people when they look back at all that happened on the 2016 campaign is that while the cia was on fire about the foreign piece of what russian russia was doing down to the granular piece saying they're trying to help one of the presidents get elected. the fbi was very slow and deliberate about proceeding to that conclusion. is this complexity we're talking about where you've got the trump organization tied to it. donald trump and his family tied to it. is this the reason it did take so long for the fbi to get there in your view. you have to remember how the fbi works. the hacki ining opens up a occa. you have to do the hacking and
track it back. that takes a very long time in cyber. you've seen that. it took many years for them to get that level of attribution. the other part is you don't necessarily know the financial transactions, especially if they have not be part of the case, are tied to any sort of foreign influence. the third big thing to remember is the fbi's mission is to do counter espionage. counter intelligence program is really going after spies. part of this is no one really has the assignment from protecting the american public from foreign influence. there is no agency that is really part of that. there is no task force. there's no interview you go to for that. so when the fbi looks at this, they're looking at a series of cases. they're going to be very slow to do this. you're not really looking to try to identify how a foreign influence would work in social media in hacking maybe through white colored crime or through oligarchs or meeting with foreign contacts. each of those take a long time
to develop. putting it together is not something they can do very quickly gl thatquick ly. >> that's a very important point. we're going to keep this panel. mall couple, tee you up on the other side of break. that's one thing that frustratings people they don't understand. the fbi investigates domestic crimes, but this other foreign intelligence piece. we were talking about it on the show every week. let's talk about why it wasn't able to be stopped and then some of the threats to the next election because they're already happening. much more coming back. stay right there. (vo) why are subaru outback owners always smiling? because they've chosen the industry leader. subaru outback holds its value better than any other vehicle in its class, according to alg. better than rav4. better than grand cherokee.
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we must. we have no choice. we must lower or taxes. your senator, claire, she must do this for you and if she doesn't do it for you, around the same time when donald trump called for her ouster from the senate, missouri senator claire became a target of a fishing attempt. executed by the same russian intelligence agency responsible for the dnc hacks of 2016. according to reporting by the daily beast, she is one of the most vulnerable democrats -- according to the daily beast. one of the most vulnerable democrats for re-election this year. running in a tossup state that trump won. i will not be intimidated. i've said it before and i will say it again. putin is a thug and bully.
we know it's happening again. we know one of the people it's happened to. donald trump this week on tuesday puts out a tweet saying, i'm very concerned russia. that russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming election based on the fact that no president has been tougher on russia than me. okay. they'll be pushing very hard for the democrats. they definitely don't want trump. former intelligence officer, what does that say to you. he is trying to say the russians will sbfr. he admits it. it will be to help the democrats. >> i've sat on this show and i don't know how many times i said this the next election if there's a blue wave, the russians could metal -- not metal. they could carry out another attack either through registration station or direct messing with the ballots in
order to jeopardize the win or loss of the election. and that will be setting the grounds for civil war, really to be quite honest. donald trump is gaslighting us on this issue. he, i don't know where this vulnerability in him comes from. letter of intent said only robert mueller is going to be able to get to the bottom of whatever debt he has for the russians, but he is definitely afraid. definitely afraid of having it found out what actually happened the last time. this is a key component of the russian strategy. >> please explain it to us. what could it be. donald trump has been completely immune to sexual scandal. his base literally does not care about any of that. wouldn't hurt if they did have some sort of sexual compromise on him. what is it that -- i mean, if donald trump is afraid of the
russians, then why would he be in your view. >> first and foremost, the fact that donald is coated in heavy teflon says something very bad about the state of democracy in america and putin's underlying goal here is to disrupt and destroy democracy. you can read his own words about this in russian publications. donald knows perfectly well he is deeply indebted to russian interest. russian speaking interest for money. where did he -- nobody would loan him money, where did he come up with all this cash to buy places? what commitments has he made? what is the full extent of his vomit with the russian gangster felix sader who has been able to manipulate the federal government and not going to prison for running a $40 million stock scam. there's plenty they have to worry about from coming out. trying to help the democrats. right out of the soviet play
book. if nobody trusts anybody who wins, whoever is in power. >> literally had to find indictable cases. not they could have stopped what happened themselves. you had the intelligence community that was trying to attempt to do something about i. now we have a prove of what's going on mpltson. i want to play christopher ray. the. >> we haven't yet seen an effort to target specific election infrastructure this time, but certainly other efforts what i would call malign influence operations are very active. and we could be just a moment away from it going to the next level. >> and really quickly, the malign influence against one specific person, claire up for senate re-election. here's adam slif ranking member talking about a hacking attempt
against her. >> that's really ominous to consider that the same russian actors may have been involved in trying to hack a vulnerable democratic senators campaign right around the same time that president trump called for her ouster from the senate, but what is also distressing to me is the ranking number on the intelligence committee is to learn about these efforts by the russian hackers from comments by microsoft employees at the summit rather than be -- hearing about this from our intelligence community. it shows just how unprepared we are. >> so you know, i'm going to bring you in, but i want to come to you about this. you worked in the state department. i feel like the first time we were all learning about it in realtime. and we're all acting in the moment. the obama administration was agonizing because the response to it would have been a political response. mitch mitch mcconnell made it
clear. he would have come out and attacked. in in the way putin was. announced publicly what was going on in france. what could have been done and in this case, now that we have a pr preview of what they're doing, what should be done. >> part of it at the time is let's not undermine hillary clinton who was everybody at that point in political circles thought was going to win. they did not want to delegitimize her election either and wanted to stay out of it. in hindsight, we've seen and writings of former obama administration officials and president obama himself, there is agonizing over if they did an injustice to the american people. the president sits at the intersection of dmesic and international policy. right. cia is not allowed legally to interfere with the united states. fbi can't do anything overseas. the president is the one making the policy decisions of how you connect the two. after the election, president obama imposed sanctions on russians. kicked out russian agents.
shutdown known spy facilities immediately after the election. donald trump is now trying to take credit for those actions that happened in the obama administration. has been directed by congress to impose additional sanctions. has done none of that. instead he's decided to invite this adversary personally to the white house during the next election. by giving a former kgb agent access on u.s. soil. that is abdication of the responsibility the white house has. that is fundamentally what putin regime is relying on is the chaos of the lack of leadership. >> you're getting an amen from malcolm on that. seems to be opening the door. >> if the president won't act. in fact, i think he's also open to going to moscow himself. he's sort of planning for friendship with russia. the if the congress, trepublicas that control are more focused on
protecting the president than acting, then what can the candidates be doing. we know there were three people targeted. let's put up the list of democratic senators who are the most vulnerable. these are the ten democrats elected in states where donald trump won. claire, joe donnelley of indiana. north dakota, joe mansion of west virginia, bob casey in pennsylvania, which is a state trump is fixated on. montana, wisconsin, ohio, florida. would you advise any democratic who believes they have been the target of the same kind of fishing campaigns that were done to hillary clinton to come out with it. emmanuel macron style. >> yes, they should. the only thing the candidates can do at this point, donald trump not going to have their back at all. he doesn't have the country's back and doesn't have the democrat's back. he thinking russia is going to help democrats. the thing about that tweet as
well. when he tweeted that, he knew the threat had occurred. so there is no bottom to donald trump. there no truth either. never have we seen before a small man such a small man hold such a large office. and i'll throw in one more reason. i think that he's doing this because his ego is so large. his ego is so big. it's preventing him to stop the attack of russia because he believes that the moment he acknowledges this attack in his twisted thinking, then it will diminish his victory. so instead of protecting the country, he's of course thinking about himself, but as it comes to these candidates, the only thing they can do is work with law enforcement. work with the fbi, hire cyber experts to work with them on this because they're not going to have what we saw house republicans vote down funding to get -- for states to get more
money to protect themselves from election security. so they're not going to get any help. they have to do it themselves. it should be out there to the public. we can't trust donald trump. he's not going to tell us the truth. as american people who are going to go vote, we need to know what's going on out there. >> what do you make of sort of what seems to be at least from the outside looking in. the renaissance of the democrats to really lean in on this issue. they seem not really to want to talk about russian interfere. they want to run on local issues. important, the economy and health care. i will reiterate again the emmanuel ma cron was attacked in exactly the same way when he ran for the presidency of france. they went full board. this is what's happening. don't believe any of this garbage you're seeing. and hillary clinton come out and said, hello, pizza gate is part of conspiracy. i don't know. i guess a lot of viewers may be along with me wondering why democrats seem to be so reticent to say, yes this is happening. >> democrats are uning on
issues. the number one issue right now that is really resinating with voters is health care. while the russian interference is important to voters, it's 60%. not that they should run on it. other issues very important to folks. everyone, every folks who are running and competitive house you know, democratic house districts, they're going to run the different type of races that work for them, but, yes, i think that as we go on, we are talking about russia now. we've been talking about russia for the last week. because of the helsinki conference and meeting and summit. whatever it was. that we saw two weeks ago. it has been out there, but you know, it's going to be up to the folks running in the state and to claire 's credit. she's been talking about russia. that's one of the reasons she's in the cross hairs. she's been talking about russia since 2013. they've been coming off her since then. >> i wonder then if we're going to wake up on the morning after
the election and start doing another round of stories about elections that were stolen or that were attacked by a foreign adversary as we had all of this we know there were 21 states that were targeted by those same russian hackers who were indicted. we now have indictments of a group of gru-linked russians who attacked our election systems in key states like colorado, connecticut, illinois. we know this happened. are we going to wake up on the morning after the 2018 election and say, it happened again? >> i'm not sure. i think in terms of what the russians are pursuing, there are only a few congressional races that would make any significance for them or any gain. ultimately, we should remember the long-run goal of this subversion technique is for us to doubt our own democracy, our institutions and our elected leaders. to think they aren't legitimate. they maybe didn't get there on their own or something was shady. if we remember back to 2016,
election-rigged voter fraud was a major theme that was used. i'm sure they would like to reintroduce that again. a good way to do that is to create provocational hacking attempts, specifically on voter rolls just to so doubt so you can influence around it. we should also remember that hacking to power influence comes in the year before the elections. so, what you saw was senator mccaskill, those attacks were starting in about august of 2017. this matches up with the playbook we saw from the kremlin where they started hacking in the fourth quarter of 2015. and next year, whoever's running for president, they should also start looking, if they're going to use this playbook again, if russia makes a decision, they will do that and forecast it by doing hacking. that hacking will start about 15 months from now if they're going to use this technique again against the united states. so, we know what the technique looks like, but whenever we're trying to decide how we're going to combat it, it's taken 18 months for this administration to have one 30-minute meeting about how we're going to mount a defense against russian
influence. if the president's worried about the democrats winning in november because the russians are tipping it towards him, he is the president of the united states. he can do something about it if he wants to. i don't know why he has to get on twitter and cry about it. >> not only him, malcolm, but the republicans. one would think it's a bipartisan issue that we do not want foreign adversaries attacking our elections, but the republicans are -- mitch mcconnell came out and said, they better not mess with us. okay. last time he told president obama you better not say anything about it because i'll say you're being partisan for hillary clinton. in the indictment against those russian officials who participate in the attack against the elections, this is from the indictment, on or about august 15, 2016, the conspirators posing as guccifer 2.0. we do forget it wasn't just donald trump. are you concerned, malcolm, with
two years advanced warning we're still going to wake up on the morning after the election saying this happened again but it happened to candidates for senate and house? >> yeah, i'm concerned. clint's right. it may not happen at the tactical level of races which were really close and somebody had more influenced operations put out against them. i think if they're going to go after it, they'll go after the whole system. and when i mean the whole system, they could just massively run a program and try to get into voter databases, even if they're not successful. so, as clint called it provocation actions out there throughout the electorate, but on this time to maybe they do it against the republicans in order to stoke that unrest and create a situation where a win would be completely considered invalid by one-third of the united states. i want you to just think about it for a moment. that's the fundamental basis for a civil war. that, of course, would allow
trump to consolidate power if he wanted to. i don't know. it's a nightmare scenario. but what we should be doing is every person needs to understand, their individual vote is securable if they vote early, if they get out there and they mobilize other people to vote and we make it so there is no margin that this could have an effect. >> yeah, absolutely. very important to vote early. >> and the relationship between this and the michael cohen revelation is that if president trump knew michael cohen said he diplomat only know about the meeting with the russians, he authorized it, he wanted it to happen, which meant he wanted to work with the russians to steal the election. we don't have to wonder why president trump isn't being more proactive. it's not ineptness, it's not ignorance. if we believe what's coming out of the mueller probe, it's that president trump is actively working with the russians to subvert our democracy. >> and, nick, i think then we
run up against the question, what can you do about it? there's a finding even -- this is a huge projection because this isn't on the table yet. if mueller were to find crimes involving the president of the united states either before he were president or obstruction afterwards, after he was elected, what actually could be done about it? the republican house of representatives have made it pretty clear that they're not interested in doing anything to donald trump or in holding him accountable. so, what could, in theory, mueller do? >> i think -- >> even if he finds crimes? >> i think if he finds a crime, i think if they really find the evidence that looks like is there, that he basically committed treason, that he conspired with the russians to stage the release of those e-mails -- now, don't forget, going back to that june 9th meeting at trump towers relating to sanctions and lifting of sanctions on russia, that was the quid pro quo for the help in the election. so, you've got a bribe being conferred upon the president-elect, the statute
permits that in a certain period of time. it seems to me with that kind of evidence, and if it's strong, the only remedy we really have is for mueller to bring an indictment against donald trump. and if that's what the evidence is, that's where it should go. >> a way that that's accomplished is he's got the goods on don junior now. there's a clear perjury case to be made against him. so, he goes to the president and says, resign, agree not to run for re-election and we won't go after your boy. >> wow. this is -- this is a great panel. i wish we could do another hour, but we can't. we have to let these guys have a day. guys, thank you very much. paul butler, malcolm nance, clint watts, david k. johnson, nick ackerman. karene, we'll let you go. up next, donald trump turns the tea party into socialists. there's more coming after the break.
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president obama, are you listening? we're thinking of having a chicago tea party in july. all you capitalists that want to show up to lake michigan, i'm going to start organizing it. >> remember that? welcome back to "am joy." that was cnbc analyst rick santelli shouting with indignation with president obama's proposal to bail out foreclosures. that five-minute rant brought santelli much more than internet fame. it was the spark that led to the creation of the tea party, a movement of disillusioned conservative, libertarian and popular americans railing against the stimulus plan to rescue the economy and demanding smaller government, lower taxes, slashed government spending and the reduction of the national debt. santelli's call for a new version of the boston tea party that kicked off the american revolution inspired nationwide protests just months into the new administration. featuring tea bags dangling from tri-corner hats and rather
conspicuous obama rage, even upside down flags, a tea party political distress signal. the tea party movement funded heavily by libertarian like the koch brothers, sending the likes of rand paul and 86 other republicans to the house. the tea party freshmen even formed their own house caucus. fast forward to this week when the republican president announced $12 billion, with a "b," in temporary relief to farmers who have been hurt by donald trump's trade tariffs as well as news the white house's midyear budget projections see federal deficits surpassing $1 trillion, with a "t" in 2019. so, where is the tea party? has anybody seen them? tea party? where's the outrage? sure, there have been some critics of the president, some criticism of the president among republican lawmakers over the tariffs and the bailout, but the tea party, they now appear to be
sipping the kofefi. joining me is phil russo, a former member of the orlando tea party. phil and i have known each other for a very long time, mostly interacting over e-mail and online because you were in the tea party. we had many, many debates about the tea party back in it the day where you would say it's not about race, it's about small government and economics. in your view, what happened to them? they are not available to talk about donald trump bailing out farmers and doing tariffs. >> first of all, thank you for having me, joy. it's always great to chat with you about these things. unfortunately, i think americans for prosperity and some other groups which, you know, i like those groups, but when they started getting involved and money started becoming an issue with the tea party groups and some of the groups got bigger than others and the populists
and libertarians you talked about in the opening started to drift away and all you were left with was people who were conservative or republic party activists anyway. the tea party became the activist wing of the republican party, unfortunately. >> but, you know, this is a debate that, like i said, we had back then and that i kind of want to have again, phil, because there was a sense among a lot of people who were observing those rallies where you'd see the witch doctor, president obama depicted as a witch doctor. a lot of really racist signage, that the tea party was saying it was about small government and that the funders of it, the people like the koch brothers cared about cutting their own taxes and not paying social services. but people who showed up just really hated barack obama. i wonder now that you see they are silent, the people they elected are now quietly going along with the idea of a huge farm bailout, that maybe the people who said the tea party was not real, that it was really
about a discomfort with the black president maybe were right? >> well, i think -- joy, i really think it was real at first. i think the first rallies, the first six months to a year of it was real. you have -- i spoke to people in orlando at the events that told me that they had never been to a political event before. they were registered independents. they were people who had never been involved before, but you played a clip of rick santelli's rant. that kind of motivated them and they were angry. those people that i spoke to, i don't think they were motivated by anything other than just anger that the idea the government is not listening to them and they felt powerless and wanted to get up and scream. now, unfortunately, you know, i think we all know there were, you know, some racist elements on the fringe of the tea party,
but i think that was a very small minority of the people that we saw certainly here in orlando. i can't speak for every city, but you did see that. but, like, that -- they were kind of our cross to bear, you know. i don't think just because there were a few racist people that showed up and held ignorant signs that that means the message about limiting the government so it's small enough to fit inside the constitution is necessarily a bad message just because, you know, a few lunatics subscribe to it as well. >> let me come to you on this, jennifer, because one of the things that is sort of fascinating about the sort of tea party/palin/trump. it's largely the same demographic base because the tea party was portrayed as this working class base but they were more affluent so they're kind of the same trump people. are you surprised as someone
yourself who has traversed the ideological plane. you're not conservative anymore. you're a conservative, not a republican. >> this is a joke because i still believe in free trade. i still believe you don't go around giving welfare to corporate farmers and they have completely abandoned this view. i think there's a lot more to what you say than, perhaps, the defenders of the tea party want to admit. i think what they were motivated by was anger. you can say it was racial anger, you can say it was anger simply about losing an election, but when donald trump came around and gave them permission to be angry about race, to be angry about immigrants, to be angry about elites, they said, yeah, that's what we're really angry about. so, i think it was this almost anti-elitism, which you definitely saw during the tea party, that has now been formulated, has been reduced, has been really set in stone as
a nativist, protectionist party. and it is the same people. and i think the rest of the republican party, the kochs and the rest of them, they're not all that pleased. you see the koch brothers now campaigning against restrictionism, you see them campaigning against the bailouts, campaigning against protectionism. because i think on an ideological level, some are very sincere. >> they don't want to pay taxes or social services. >> that's their philosophy. i think when you look at the individuals, we are talking about the same people. we're talking about nine college educated white working class people in rural america. those -- >> and affluent suburbanites. >> i think they, frankly, have been playing the game. let the yahoos put them into office and we'll get our taxes. >> bob corker, who still sounds like what republicans used to sound like, came out and proposed this farm aid policy. he says you have a terrible policy that sends farmers to
poor house and then you put them on welfare. i wish he knew a senator that he could talk to about that. >> i wish there was an independent body, like a co-equal branch of government that could do something. >> wouldn't that be amazing? >> yes. >> why aren't republicans like bob corker who had supposed to be small government conservatives, why does he say he wishes there was a revolt instead of leading a revolt? >> first of all, he's getting out. second of all, he sees where the party has gone. they are the trump party. this is a nativist, protectionist, big government kind of whack-a-doodle party which is about power and this cult of donald trump. the only people you hear speaking up are leaving congress. >> let me bring you in here because the author kind of interesting feature of tea party-era trumpism is they see
the same sets of data as catastrophe during obama and as brilliant and wonderful and fabulous when it's donald trump when the data doesn't change. you had donald trump come out and tout strong 4.1% growth in q2, second quarter of 2018. john harwood, great cnbc analyst for us here at cnbc points out that that would rank fifth if you measured it against the strong quarters of the obama presidency. it would rank fifth behind four different quarters of the obama presidency. you had people who said the economy was terrible on january 19, 2009 -- i mean, 2009 -- i'm sorry, this year, of 2019 -- what am i saying? 2017. >> there you go. >> of 2017. i was out late last night. who then on the day donald trump was inaugurated said the economy is great, trump fixed it. what is going on here with conservativism? >> joy, the opportunistic use of gdp data to say my party is great and the other party is terrible, that's been going on a long time.
i want to go back to the original point about the tea party was originally about the rick santelli rant and a genuine, organic outpouring of opposition to bailouts and the like. i think that's true. but very quickly we saw something very different happen. remember the same people who were saying, obamacare is the root to single payer health care. that wasn't in 2016 or 2017, that was in 2010, 2011. i remember going to a tea party rally in orlando where future presidential candidates for 2016 were coming through town. the republican candidates would get a polite respectful welcome except for marco rubio because he was with the gang of 8, he was heckled, there was incredible nger in that audience. it's true the tea party was this organic concern about big government and spending but what's changed since then is demographic change and support for big government if it
benefits members of the tea party, which are generally older white voters, but opposition to government if it helps other people. i think that's been problematic for the moral legitimacy of the philosophy of big government or small government or your activism thereof. >> he referenced the orlando tea party where republican candidates came out and marco rubio didn't get a very friendly hearing. you remember that era, the big knock on him was immigration. that element -- i feel like we're sort of rewriting the tea party as having started out one way and ended another when maybe it was always the same way. >> joy, i really don't -- i really don't think so. i think much of what we're seeing with trump and a lot of stuff that happened in 2012 is the exact opposite of what the tea party started out as, at least from my point of view. when i was getting involved and active and planning rallies, like those -- things like a farm
bailout, a $12 billion farm bailout was exactly the kind of thing we were fighting against. one of the core principles of the movement was free market capitalism. so, you know, all of this opposition to nafta now, i don't understand where it comes from. and even so far as building the wall that everybody seems to enamored of the idea of building a wall on the mexican border. we talk about free market capitalism and the free movement of goods and services across international boundaries. that includes the free movement of labor across international boundaries. almost everything we're talking about is so the opposite of what drew people like me into it. >> very quickly, is there a base for that version of conservativism beyond the three people that are on screen with me right now? because it doesn't seem the base of the republican party believes in any of that. >> well, i think there is a base for it, but, frankly, a lot of
people like us are now democrats. and i think what we need to contemplate is the possibility that we see realignment in the future where maybe the bernie sanders type split off in one direction, the democratic party becomes this kind of free market, free trade party, and the republican party shrinks to a white populist base. something like that could easily happen over the next ten years. >> i mean, it's -- you do see a lot of people who were associated with free market conservative thinking becoming either actual democrats or ind meants. >> and you see it in foreign policy as well. we haven't talked much about that. the republican party used to be the anti-russia party, in favor of human rights, opposed to dictators around the world. that's completely flipped and those very same people -- i'm not talking about the same demographic. i'm talking about the same people now defend donald trump. so, i think -- >> and defend russia. >> defend russia and defend other dictators around the world. so, i think there has been a complete abandonment, in part, because i think it's another discussion, but i think
conservativism ran into a dead end. people like avik roy and myself are trying to spruce it up, reform, bring in new ideas. diplomat happen. and suddenly the base and everybody else went nativist is populist. now you have this big gap. i suspect there's a lot more in common between people on the center right and center left and i think the party that appeals to them, whether it's a new party, whether it's the democratic party, can pick up a lot of ground. i think there's a lot of commonali commonality. >> you should get to know phil. phil's a good guy. appreciate you being here. jennifer ruben, avik roy, good to see you. still to come, we'll take a look ahead to the 2018 midterms. stay with us. ♪ dear foremothers, your society was led by a woman, who governed thousands... ...commanded armies... ...yielded to no one. when i found you in my dna, i learned where my strength comes from. my name is courtney mckinney, and this is my ancestrydna story.
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about the meeting. between his son, donald trump jr., his son-in-law, jared kushner, and paul manafort and kremlin linked lawyer natalie. jennifer ruben is back with me and joining me matthew miller, msnbc justice and security analyst, my yeah rocky moore. thank you for being here. jennifer, you wrote about this this week. what do you think the cohen news means? >> i think it confirms what we expected all along. it would have been inconceivable for donald trump not to have known his son, his son-in-law, campaign manager were all meeting on the floor above his office with a bunch of russians. i think this kind of fills in the blank. there will be other corroborating information when the special prosecutor gets those blocked calls that came from donald trump jr., probably to his father. it will fit a pattern. but i think this reminds us of something else.
we know a fraction of the facts out there. everyone thinks we're close to the end. i don't think we're very near the end. i think we're in the middle. there's a tremendous number of witnesses who have yet to talk to the special prosecutor. those people in turn are going to turn over other people. we saw a new character introduced when michael cohen introduced the name of the cfo of the trump organization. so we have a long way to go. i do think michael cohen is front and center. he's at the intersection of the women, the russians and the money. >> we'll come back to that, because it's true. it's all sort of lumping together. we do know, matt, you have robert mueller now examining donald trump's tweets. that he may become -- his tweets may become a witness in the case as well in this obstruction inquiry. several of the remarks that are being examined came as trump was also privately pressing jeff sessions, attorney general, and jim comey about the investigation and robert mueller is examining whether the actions
add up to attempts to obstruct to tamp down the inquiry. we now have the potential that donald trump's tweets about jeff sessions and jim comey become evidence against him. >> it's right. one thing people say about donald trump oftentimes is nothing matters. in fact, everything matters. and everything he says publicly matters just like he says privately matters. one thing we know about his tweets, they are in some way his most unfiltered, unvarnished thoughts. it's what he says in the white house by himself, before he's gone into the west wing, his most angry times where he says what he wants. not filtered through white house counsel, not filtered through his outside attorneys. it's what he means. i think what you'll see the special prosecutor do is piece them together with his private actions. they'll use the tweets to try to show his motive. why did he fire jim comey? why did he try to push jeff sessions out of the way? why did he try to push rod rosenstein out of the way?
it's because he wants the investigation to go away. >> there's always this question of donald trump's one-way loyalty and to whom it extends when he returns it. you have michael cohen who is now out there on his own. it's very clear he's been cut off by trump world and they are now at loggerheads with each other. jeff sessions who complains all the time. fired jim comey after comey asking for a proffer of loyalty. the question then becomes whether that loyalty extends to his son. donald trump jr., per the associated press, scores of e-mails to natalie as a well-connected attorney who was a ghost writer of top russian lawyers. don junior is now very much caught up in this, implicated by cohen. should we expect an uncharacteristic loyalty to the son, that donald trump may be willing to go out on a limb to
save junior? >> there are questionings if ivanka is still his favorite child? that's still out there. in terms of jodon junior, he ses to be at the center of a number of investigations when it comes to russia. he's been involved in the nra mueller prong of the investigation. we know that he's -- his name has come up with the maria discussion. we know that that meeting at the trump tower, you know, he was right in the middle of it. we also know that he actually put out a statement dictated by his father. we know that he's in the center of this. now, will donald trump's loyalty actually be shared with his son? i think that question remains. it will be fascinating to see. i think the pressure is being brought to bear by, perhaps, ivanka and others in the family might make him feel a certain passion he might not necessarily feel for cohen or other people. >> speaking of cohen, the daily beast describes cohen and trump as dead to each other as the white house prepares to bury michael cohen, who they depict
as a weakling and a traitor. i don't know that going after michael cohen, who's the keeper of your secrets for over a decade, is the smartest strategy. >> we're not necessarily looking at smart strategy coming out of the white house. >> you mean hiring rudy giuliani wasn't a -- >> and all the lawyers around him have quickly run away, even those in the white house, who were supposed to have recuse themselves. very difficult for people in trump orbit to get outside legal counsel because they don't want anything to do with the mueller investigation. everyone on the legal side sees where this is going. it's going to take some time to get there. ongoing, lots to uncover. the fact we've had 18 indictments so far is record speed for any investigation, particularly one that's being run like a racketeering mob case. and in a racketeering mob case, you go for the people near the don. right now they have peeled off the concilliary and going after family members and turning the screws, when is this person
going to crack. >> michael cohen has been involved in everything from reported payoffs of women who say they had affairs with donald trump. he was involved in allegedly being in prague, which he says he was not. mcclatchy had a piece about how he could get into prague another way. michael cohen seems to be involved in everything in trump world. cutting him off, as a layperson, doesn't seem smart. >> we also forget because there are so many facts, we forget the bad facts from a month ago or two months ago. he was involved during the campaign on the moscow/trump tower escapade with felix sadr. >> and involved in the ukraine peace deal? >> yeah. it's hard to think of something donald trump was doing that michael cohen was not involved in. and i think they've made a decision, if you can think of it as a rationale decision, which is he knows so much, we just
have to ruin the guy. we have to make him seem like a complete liar. that's short-sighted thinking because they're going to be corroborating witnesses for what michael cohen is saying. >> and he tapes people. >> right. you won't tape -- he has 100 tapes, we learned. there are other people in these meetings. these people have left a trail of evidence a mile wide. i think their inclination we'll just ruin him comes from their political philosophy, we're just ruin the people attacking us. it doesn't work in the legal realm because there are facts that matter and evidence that matters and there's a whole realm of documentary evidence that will support them. so, yeah, it's student but understand why they do that. they always operate this way. >> it's also -- they're not winning in the court of public opinion anymore either. they expected that that would maybe supercede and prevail, get them through the next election but we're seeing his polling numbers drop among the people who helped him get elected.
there's a very small narrowing, hard base that will be there. millions of more people who are motivated and energized by the shadiness, if nothing else. and then the pocket issues that aren't being discussed. at the end of the day, who is motivated to go and vote? >> on the ruining front -- there's polling that shows he's got a hard and fast base but it's smaller and smaller and smaller. at the same sometime, elected republicans are joining in this idea that you can brings down the reputation of a christopher steele, of a bob robert mueller and rosenstein. there was talk of impeaching him. mark meadows of north carolina has backed off that after leadership intervened. that idea is on the table, of trying to take down rod rosenstein. >> sometimes the obstruction of justice is right out in the open. you see donald trump doing it. he tries to do it on twitter. that's what house republicans have been trying to do. they are looking for any way
they can to shut down the investigation. if they can't shut down the investigation, they want to discredit it because they realized this isn't as likely with respect to donald trump to end up in front of a jury, as long as he's president. i think that had mueller and rosenstein will respect the long-standing doj president. if it ends up of criminality on behalf of donald trump, it will wind up in the house and senate impeachment proceedings and that's a political case where the opinion of the american people matter. his base may be smaller but strong. they're talking to this narrow audience saying, you can't believe these people. it doesn't matter if they have to burn the justice department down to convince people and have affects on law enforcement's ability to do its job not just in this one, but in terrorism cases because people won't trust the fbi, they won't want to cooperate the fbi, they don't care about any of those consequences because they want to protect the president at any cost. >> it's extraordinary to see the republican party turn on the major law enforcement agency like the fbi in the way they
have. i want to talk a little about the democrats as well. maybe they don't have the bully pulpit, they don't have the mega phone, they don't have the majority. donald trump won't be impeached as long as they're in power but republicans have been reticent to put on the table if they were in power, if found guilty of crimes by mueller, he would be impeached. democrats don't seem to want to go there. >> they seem to be sensitive to this credit teak they don't have a positive agenda for the country. they've been spending a lot of time and spinning wheels trying to come up with slogans and things to talk about their issue agenda. >> what is -- it was better deal, better ingredients, i think, is one? >> it went away really quick. >> for the people. >> for the people. i think is the latest one. unfortunately -- yes, unfortunately, you know, health care still matters. economics still matter. what they're doing to food stamps and everything else still matters. at the same time, the integrity of our democracy is increasingly
at the center, i think, of the nation's attention. and to not -- and to not focus on this in a real way in terms of how it's undercutting our electoral system, how it's undercutting our democracy, how it's undercutting our states in terms of the integrity of the vote in our states is a really, i think, important and egregious oversight. i'm of the breed of democrats who believe that we should put it up front and center because nobody will have, i think, a better argument to make than democrats in the fall about why we actually need to have a working branch of congress that actually serves as a real check on the presidency as opposed to what we have now, which are republican congressmen which are cl colluding with the republican president who has certainly some very questionable, you know, intentions. >> it would be ironic to see the democratic party to be the party that has to come out and defend the fbi, right? it was traditionally republicans would try to own that whole law enforcement space. it is now just open for anyone
who cares to step into it. >> there's only one party left that's a rule of law party. it's crazy. rule of law has been a settled position where both parties settled the rule of law. that's not true anymore. i think with respect to what democrats -- they have to run on being a check on an executive branch that's out of control. i -- i'm one of the people that thinks it would be a mistake to run into impeachment. this investigation is not over. let's see the facts bob mueller comes with. >> the rational democratic party up against -- i don't know what you call it. thank you all very much. up next, the potential 2020 democratic contender comes out swinging. (vo) i was born during the winter of '77. i first met james in 5th grade. we got married after college.
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where did they come from? remember that, where did they come from? now they know but they're not going to the democrats who are going so far left that nobody can believe it. >> well, recent polls show voters actually may be rallying around the democrats. particularly in midwestern states. a hopeful sign for dems that the so-called blue wave could actually happen this november. joining me is tiffany ross, jason johnson, politics editor at the root. i have -- i'm going right in the middle. you're at a disadvantage, one man on the panel. we have to talk about stacy abrams, now that we know who her opponent is going to be, i probably get this question, is she going to win? >> i'm going to get in trouble. >> keep it real. >> it is possible, it is mathematically possible for stacy abrams to win in georgia. is it likely? we don't know. look, kemp has made it his personal quest over the last five years to do everything he
can to suppress the vote in that state. he sued the new georgia projects, allowed voter data to magically disappear, he's gotten rid of early voting. he changed the landscape to make it as difficult -- you talk about the blue wave. they're going up against a mountain in that particular state. and it's a red state. but if there was a candidate stacy abrams could beat, it's kemp. because his nasty, despicable behavior and the very thing he's doing to make georgia more red are what offend people. i think it's going to be a lot more competitive than i thought six months ago. >> you're smiling. >> because jason and i talked about this. >> are you talking about -- bring them out. bring them out. >> i actually think abrams can dw definitely win. she talked about her biggest problem is she needs to convince people that victory is possible. kemp sued her. he's had people arrested,
interrogated. >> he was the attorney general. >> secretary of state and attorney general. >> sorry. >> i do think she has an uphill battle but i think she has been bold enough to run an authentic campaign as authentic as herself. there are plenty of people in georgia looking for a candidate like her. if people get it in their head that victory is possible and come out and vote, she can certainly win. i would say winning is probable. >> i think it's such an exciting -- this is one of the most exciting matches also to watch because you want to know, obviously, kemp is going to be playing so dirty. he'll pull the race card, the gender card. it seems like that's been working for the republicans because it's a consistent message that goes along with, you know, what donald trump is also spewing. but i feel like if anybody -- if anybody can take kemp down, it's going to be stacey abrams. >> georgia has more african-americans by percentage than alabama. if alabama is a winnable state by a democrat, i think it's -- mathematically it should be a
winnable state. it's the white whale of the democratic party. another state where there's heavy voter suppression which was sued over that voter suppression behavior but also demographically should be win by democrats is texas. let's play a little awe new ad. here is this ad. >> the only way for me to be able to deliver for the people of texas is to show up in every single community and every county. to drive to all 254 counties. >> we've been in houston, we've been in dallas, we've been in austin, we've been in georgetown. w again here in amarillo. >> real human beings making this happen. >> regardless of background or geography, i serve only you. that's the beauty of this campaign right now. no pacs, just people. >> i'll start with you, the polling is showing cruz at 41%,
o'rourke at 36% that's in june. ted cruz certainly wants to debate beto five times. that's a sign he's worried. >> i agree. ted cruz is worried and i think he he should be. beto's climb is a little more than abrams. texas is a different animal. greg abbott enjoys huge support from the people. he's faced a few lawsuits himself. he has a latino wife who comes out and campaigns when necessary. ted cruz is latino himself. a lot of people think people of color in one block but there's a lot of conservative latinos in texas who want strong borders and fall for these identity politics. if you look at the contrast between ted cruz's ad and beto's ad -- ted cruz's ad tapped into that dog whistle and feeds on
the xenophobe yeze xenophobe ye. >> it surprises me that works. in a state that is so dependent for its economic growth on mexico. if you go down -- if you go closest to the border, the relationship is fluid and positive. it surprises me this is a state where those dog whistles work rather than repel voters. >> i completely agree with you. i don't understand how it works. it's like a denial. also with everything going on with the child detentions and the forced family separations. i mean, now it's becoming -- i still don't understand how this can remain an issue of race. it has to be a human rights issue. i'm surprised you can play those dog whistles and people fall for it. >> i want to make sure we get wisconsin in because you have another interesting race, tony evers polling at 54%, scott walker at 51%. he was re-elected and people were surprised but he did get back in. what has changed? >> scott's in trouble because the president is unpopular. that's the biggest thing. i've always said this.
donald trump can -- he can -- he remains popular but it's a millstone around the neck of other republicans in this country. he has no coat tails. that's been dragging scott walker down. all of these tariffs -- canada has been specifically targeting wisconsin and pennsylvania in their tariffs. they are hitting wisconsin where it hurts. scott walker has been trying to judge you have it and a lot of voters in that state are unhappy. third time's a charm. scott walker gets knocked out. earlier this week i literally had a conversation with one of ted cruz's pollsters. we're not going to debate. their internal polls must indicate they're in danger. >> they moved the house as a tilt toward the democrats, 17 ratings have been changed in favor of the democrats. it's supposed to be a bad year for them, at least on the senate side. ten senators up in states trump won. what does the picture look like for 2018, can they flip the house or the senate? >> i definitely think the house is at play.
i think the senate is going to be a little more challenging. i think it's -- i just don't know any, you know, well-funded democrats out there who are, you know, putting republicans in danger, to be quite honest. but the house, i definitely think is going to be a huge part. i just want to piggyback quickly on what jason said about wisconsin, about the location. i think wisconsin, part of it is locations, location, location, but i think in the race it's also education, education, education. and you've had a lot of public educators come out and campaign and be on the front lines in that race because he completely attacked the public education system there when he decimated their collective bargaining rights. he was strategic because he excluded the police and firefighters, state trooper unions because they vote for conservati conservative. >> we're going to keep going. we're going to keep the panel around. i have to talk about florida. the latest on michael cohen's new claims that his former boss knew about that trump tower meeting before it happened. first, more "am joy" after the break. ♪
jason, to stephen stacey abrams second. we were talking about georgia democrats it's so hard to win. >> part of it is about suppression and you've got atlanta and most of the state, savannah. you didn't have high voter registration in atlanta. people cared about the mayor. this year, they've got hundreds of thousand of people involved and motivated with kent being this aggressive guy who runs around saying i'm going to get rid of mexicans in the state and putting guns into 16 year olds, it's going to be difficult but if there's a candidate in a year, this will be that year. >> and i feel like alabama changed the game. the idea that black women are supermotivated right now because they smell victory. they've done it. >> it's so interesting, i look that the. to save the country, it's got a countdown. and a lot of interesting things
that black women aren't entitled or obligated to save us. they saved themselves. they didn't want that child molester banned from malls, whatnot, to be in their local government. >> when you're banned from hot topics, i generally think that's going to be it. >> let's talk about florida. i'm perplexed by florida as well. you have three, really four, jeff green also running for the democratic governor. and the african-american candidate. gwen graham the daughter of bob graham. the former mayor of miami beach all in contention. it's a topsy-turvy race. it now appears that graham and levine on the top there. >> and a happy mayor a lum night of florida university just this week a federal judge ruled prohibiting early voting sites on campuses and universities are discriminatory. i thought this would be great,
because andrew graduated there. and i thought this might shift with the colleges and young voters down there. we'll see what happens. i'm is not ready. i'm holding out hope. >> is florida another georgia? a territory that's winnable in theory, demographically but not necessarily for democrats for some weird reason? >> the other thing that's happening, while you have a functional democratic party in florida, they're not as functional -- they don't have the kind of structure on the ground for a state that remains as competitive in some of the local races as they do. and that's part of the issue. i found it whether you're looking at georgia, alabama or ohio. there's a lot of states where the democratic party in recent years are saying, man, we can't really pull this off. and they don't have the kind of money or focus behind the candidate. >> yeah. >> maybe this will change once the primary is over, gilliam or whoever, i don't see the structure down there to make a
statewide push. >> the year of the woman, gwen graham, can she pull it out? >> i hope so. dem, we cannot afford to lose. >> levine tried to tell them. jason johnson, anushay hossein, tiffany cross, thank you very much. you can check out my interview with shirley sherrod. you do not want to miss it. you'll hear what she has to say about trump's farm fallout and the gooding gg governeorgia gov. more "am joy" after the break. best price . giddyup! kayak. search one and done.
>> here at the table for the hour, steve schmidt and matt miller. but first, to react for the first time, single threads -- different threads of a single story. questions about russians and contact with people in the president's inner circle. former cia director john brennan, lucky for us, now a senior national security and intelligence analyst for msnbc and nbc news. i understand now, sitting here today, why donald trump a week or so ago said don't believe what you see, don't believe what you hear on the news channels, because when you take all these events just this week together, they paint a very compromising position for this president on the question of russian influence. >> i think that's right, nicolle. i think we've seen over the course of the last two years basically an effort on the part of president trump and others to pry to inoculate public perceptions of what actually
happened during the campaign. first, there were no meetings. then there were meetings, but they were focused on adoption. they were benign. then they acknowledged there was meetings and some issues discussed. but now we're at the point of them saying collusion is not against the law. so i think this just reflects just this steady slide of the trump team to try to acknowledge that some things happened but they weren't illegal. that's where it's up to the special counsel and his team to uncover exactly what happened, the motivations for those who went into those meetings, and to come to the conclusions that i think the evidence will bring forth. >> is there any question in your mind about what the motivations were for the people in the meetings? i mean, the trump tower meeting was attended by natalia and others who were known to be close to the kremlin. when you first heard about that meeting, was there any doubt in
and still may be in terms of monitoring these developments. but the fbi and the u.s. intelligence community are the world's best in terms of being able to detect and to then uncover. sometimes realtime, but often you're able to determine exactly what happened by putting together some bits and pieces of data until you can see more of the puzzle. >> i think i hear what you're saying, and unlike this president, i respect the need to protect sources. i guess what i'm trying to get at is one of donald trump's attacks on the intelligence community where you spent the vast majority of your career and on law enforcement, which is both sides of those, cia run by his hand picked appointees and before that, by a political supporter, mike pompeo. the fbi now run by his hand picked nominee, christopher wray. he attacks them constantly. is it -- should he have been warned by the fbi that there
were russian agents in trump tower? do you know if there was enough information in possession of the u.s. government that in hindsight maybe he should have been warned? >> certainly the campaign was given defensive briefings by the fbi what they should be on the lookout for. but if there were ongoing investigations at the time, which jim comey and others have acknowledged that in late july, there were -- those investigations were opened. it's very, very difficult to reveal details of an investigation while at the same time protecting the integrity of that investigation. so i know that the bureau tried to balance their need to warn and to advise the two campaigns about the potential for foreign interference. but at the same time, continue to pull those investigative threads and they continued to pull them throughout the course of the campaign and during the period between election and
functions of the american intelligence community and law enforcement. i do want to get to the manafort trial. jeremy bash on this program once said that it was possible that there was a russian plant, that there was somebody who was -- who sought out employment on the trump campaign. we know that paul manafort sought out tom baric and asked to get in front of trump and paul manafort served as the chairman when the platform at the republican national convention koicoincidentally perhaps, maybe it's president trump's one true intellectual impulse on foreign policy, changed to a pro russia position. what do you make of the fact that paul manafort, while i understand this trial is about financial crimes, is one of the first characters who could have been perhaps planted or placed there as a russian agent inside the trump campaign, is that implausible to you?
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intelligence element. but a lot of times people recognize that there are vulnerabilities here in themselves. but still will pursue this because they have tremendous financial pressures upon them. and i think what's coming out in this case is that paul manafort faced very, very serious financial problems. and was seeking to capitalize on them. so i think the special counsel's team has done a good job of what i've seen so far publicly in terms of uncovering some of this. and rick gates now is acknowledging his role in this. you know, when i see this continued case evolve, i keep thinking about sort of those who are affiliated with president trump, it's almost like a pack of cars going down the highway being pursued by law enforcement. and some of those cars have been pulled over and are now cooperating with the authorities. the mike flynns and george
papadopoulpap dap -- papadopoulos and rick gates. and the other cars are going to be outmaneuvered by law enforcement or go off a cliff. they're not going to get away. >> let me ask you about a white bronco here. don junior largely thought to be thrown under the bus by his own father. they seem to have a strategy for avoiding maybe not even impeachment but conviction. but he appeared to throw his son under the bus when he said don junior took a meeting with the russians, it happens all the time. you never meet with a foreign government, let alone a foreign adversary. there are plenty of allies who have information. you never take the meeting. you don't meet with the uk or the israelis. you never, ever, ever correspond with american adversaries. so what do you think trump's doing by saying hey, don junior met with russians to get dirt on hillary clinton?
do you think it's sort of trying to signal the same defense he has for himself, collusion isn't a crime, or doesn't he understand that his son could be in serious legal jeopardy for conspiracy? >> i think both. he believes he can convince his base and supporters that there was no crime here and trying to explain it away. but also i think he has an exaggerated sense of his ability to navigate these legal shoals. and i think he has done a lot of damage to his legal defense and his son's legal defense. and i'm sure some of the lawyers that are trying to defend president trump and others, the real lawyers, not rudy giuliani, but the others are rolling their eyes and are very concerned about all of the things that president trump continues to either tweet or to say, that it's complicating and making their jobs much more difficult. >> let me ask you something else about russians. they seem to be popping up everywhere. a russian spy that infiltrated the nra, which may seem you have
t -- off topic, but it's about russians manipulating the republicans. are the russians being embold emboldened or are we getting better at catching them? >> russian intelligence spans the spectrum from very sophisticated, exquisite operations that are really difficult to detect and uncover, to maybe some of the more entrepreneurial efforts on the part of those who may be working directly or indirectly with one of the russian intelligence services, whose profile is maybe a little bit more prominent than a traditional russian intelligence officer would like. and so therefore, people like her who have come across the radar, to me it doesn't smack of very sophisticated russian intelligence trade craft. it is very aggressive and asserti assertive, and she had a profile that i think was inconsistent
with what a russian intelligence officer would want of his or her asset or person working on their behalf in the united states. >> i read "red spareio." i think i know what you're saying. you talked about whiting and unwhiting accomplices. i put don junior in the unwitting category. do the events move him over to the witting accomplices? he responded i love it. his father said he walked into a meeting with the russians, people now that we know have ties with the kremlin and sat there, wanting to receive dirt on hillary clinton, would you now, in terms of his sort of legal standing and the role that he has played in all this, would you move him into the witting category? >> i think i would put him in the witting category, in terms of knowing -- going into that meeting with an anticipation and expectation that he was going to get dirt from those individuals that were associated with russia.
whether he was witting of just how bad that action was, i don't know. but if he had that position within the trump campaign, he certainly should have been aware. and those working with him should have been aware that going into that meeting, in and of itself, just by definition, would be problematic. so i think it was a bit of knee yoo -- naivety, self-confidence, and also believing he could get away with it and not be held to account one day. and i think he was wrong on that score. >> yes, he hadn't met mr. mueller. john brennan, thank you for your time. thank you. matt miller, so much there. but this idea now that we're putting our finger on it, the witting accomplices to the russian effort to meddle in the 2016 election feels like maybe the public facing part of what bob mueller is investigating, the conspiracy. >> that's right.
if you stake everyone in that meeting at trump tower -- >> it's jared kushner, paul manafort, donald trump, jr. and a bunch of russians with ties to the kremlin. >> that's right. >> what did they think they were doing? >> it's not just the e-mails that we see jared kushner responding to, but you have to take that into context of what happened before. in april, george papadopoulos had been told that the russians had obtained hillary clinton's e-mails. dan scavino, a close aide to president trump, had tweeted about the russians having obtained hillary clinton's e-mails. we haven't seen this confirmed yet, but i guarantee they went into that meeting thinking they were going to get hacked, stolen e-mails from the russians. >> and we talked to a person close to the trump legal defense effort u who said that every person who told a lie about that meeting, told lies to other people repeatedly, and the idea that every single one of them
had the sensibility to walk in and tell the truth the first time to robert mueller is a fantasy, that every one of the people who probably known't the meeting, because it is a small campaign, not a lot of chances that they didn't know what the meeting was about, they all told this lie to the press, to each other, to the rest of the white house, that the idea of every one of those people on the list of six names that robert mueller sent over, after it came out wasn't about adoption, could be in serious legal jeopardy. >> no doubt that's true. what we've known for a long time, was there collusion? of course there was. when the leading officials of the presidential campaign go to a meeting with russian intelligence operatives for the purpose of receiving dirt on the democratic party's nominee for president, they were colluding with a hostile foreign intelligence power. what i don't know is does it meet the legal definition of felony conspiracy against the united states? and that's what we're going to find out over the course of the investigation. but i know this for sure -- on
any of the campaigns that we worked on together and we worked on two presidential campaigns together, and i know for sure whether you're talking about the senior people who we were in opposition against on the obama campaign, on the john kerry campaign, people that we know well. not a single person on any of those campaigns around barack obama or john kerry, the they were called and asked do you want to meet with russian intelligence operatives, officials, people with ties to the kremlin to get dirt on george w. bush or john mccain, the answer would have been hell no, and they would have called the fbi. >> that's what people do. when we come back, we go inside the courtroom where the prosecution's star witness pulled back the curtain on paul manafort's criminal enterprise. also ahead, blue wave rising. how anger at the president could get a democrat close enough to rattle republicans in a deep red part of ohio. stay with us. but he has plans today. so he took aleve this morning.
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ashley parker. barbara, take us through some of the more important moments of today's testimony. >> reporter: well, some of the testimony that rick gates gave was very tedious, walking through financial documents. they showed him e-mails, bank records, invoices and other things, which corroborated his testimony. he kind of connected the dots from all the things we've seen that shows paul manafort was using earnings hidden in bank accounts to pay his own expenses. when the money ran out, he started engaging in bank fraud because he needed cash. i thought that went very well. some of the things more interesting, once paul manafort had left his job in the trump administration, he used rick gates to try to get him favors like getting a lender of his a position on the council of economic advisers and even to be considered for secretary of the army. >> i'm reading some of your notes about the body hang wage between paul manafort and his one-time deputy rick gates. tell us about that.
>> reporter: yeah, it's really interesting. when gates is testifying, he never looked at manafort, he looks at the lawyers and the jury. but manafort himself stairs directly at rick gates, you might say staring daggers at him. from time to time, the judge calls the lawyers up, and rick gates is just left there dangling in the wind sitting alone awkwardly, not knowing quite where to look. manafort continues to stair at him, and gates looks around the room, waiting toer this awkward silence to end. >> i understand that all of the assurances the president was given about how this trial would have nothing to do with him have been erased in robert mueller's prosecutors and the idea that he's seeing the kinds of questions and the threads that could be pulled through if the curtain were pulled back on the vast neness of the entire investigation, news that you and robert costa have reported today that rudy giuliani is getting ready to get ready to respond,
sort of, to rebuff the latest offer from the special counsel for an interview. see any connection? >> reporter: well, of course. the president, you know, the people in his orbit are watching this trial theglued to it. for the president, he believes that mueller is going after paul manafort in a way that is trying to be deeply personal and humiliating to the president. so that's how he views it. the president doesn't see this trial as separate from him. and frankly, it's not. so you have to understand, as the president watches cable news on a loop and grows frustrated, he associates all of this with mueller. of course, that's going to affect his decision and his lawyers' thinking about whether or not it's a good moment for him to sit down and answer a bunch of questions. >> i want to read you a quote that rudy giuliani gave to your colleagues there. he says they're trying to get something on perjury, and that's
not going to happen. the answers with regard to former national security adviser mike flynn and the firing of comey are well known and they're not going to change. he would say the same thing in an interview that he said publicly. the idea that they're trying to get something on perjury, you don't have anything on perjury until a witness purgers himself. so he's saying donald trump is incapable of telling the truth. >> that has been a concern of the president's lawyers, not just giuliani, but people who came before him. and there's a real debate and a divide between the president and his legal team. the president believes, believed and still does believe, that his own best negotiator that he didn't do anything wrong, that he has nothing to hide, and if he could just get in the room, he would be able to convince mueller and his investigators of that. his lawyers are far more cautious because they understand
that if you say something under oath or to investigators that is not true, even if you wish it were true, you could be in serious trouble, which is why there's been all of this effort to say maybe the president once answer some questions, but they will be written questions, not the president going off the cuff in a way that could get him in trouble. >> it seems to me, matt miller, that even written responses, if they're written by the president, are not -- they're going to end up letting robert mueller ask him about the weather. they're nothing that they have confidence letting the president talk about. i heard that everyone from chris christie to rudy giuliani to emmet flood, would later body down before they would let the president be interviewed by robert mueller. >> if we see written answers, it will be answers drafted by his attorneys that go through four or five attorneys that don't answer the questions. because he has -- he's stuck on the horns oh of a dilemma here, where, in many cases if he lies about what happened, he's
committed a crime. but i think a lot of times the answers are incriminating if he tells the truth. that's why he's not testifying right now. it's not just a question can they prepare him enough without lying. if he goes in and admits well, i did fire jim comey because i wanted the russian investigation to end, that's evidence of obstruction of justice. if he admits i wanted to know about this trump meeting before it happened, that puts him in the middle of this conspiracy. >> i talked to a source, a one-time participant in the president's legal effort, who said the reason this obstruction marker is being laid down, is because they think that there is a real chance that the president, by interrogating senior white house aides after they came back from their interviews, that the president may have subborned perjury. it turns out that's the kind of thing bill clinton was impeached for, for querying aides after they testified for before the
grand jury. there is an escalating concern that the president is vulnerable on the question of witness tampering, and the questions of obstruction of justice. >> he's not the first president who lies. but he's the most prolific liar to ever be president. and when you unpack all of this, the incapacity to be questioned about anything and give truthful answers, either because you just can't help yourself from lying pathologically, which may be the case with trump. but also because what's likely to be the truth is so incriminating here. every single representation that they have made as a white house, as a campaign, trump himself about what occurred here, somewhat happened, last unraveled from the first moment that they said it. >> barbara, thank you for being there for us. ashley parker, thanks for joining us. we liked it better when you were in studio. after the break, why you might see a republican freakout tomorrow if democrats get within
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close your eyes and randomly point to any story in the newspaper these days and you're almost certain to see a theme, it's all about president trump and the special election happening in ohio. people there have voted republican in decades and the president won by double digits. so why is the margin between the democrat and republican razor thin? take a guess --
joining the table, a former communications director to president obama, and the hillary clinton 2016 campaign. and former republican congressman david jolly. it seems to me, david, that people are likely to misread this, and if the republican ekes it out, saying nothing to see here. that's not the point, that's not the story. this shouldn't be a race that any of us know anything about. this shouldn't be a race that anyone talks about. i would say if the democrat comes within five points, the republicans are in deep doo-doo. >> good reference. the takeaway from tonight and every other special do congressional election is this -- only republicans trust republicans. if you're a democrat or independent, you don't trust republicans or donald trump. it's why republicans are looking at a very difficult time in november. this could be the worst midterm
election in nearly 40 years for republicans. the fact that these are competitive, and democrats have overperformed, republicans have underperformed in every single special election since donald trump got elected. going into november where you have 23 to 24 seats, where hillary clinton actually won those congressional districts, but they're representatived by a republican in congress, you're looking at a wipeout year, because those seats are gone in november. >> why can't democrats lose the defensiveness? why not say, if it comes to -- impeachment, it comes to that, but why not run with this head wind? >> democrats should do their job if they're running for congress. it's right there in the constitution, your job is to be a check on the president of the united states. >> it's the republican's job, too. to be fair. >> why are you saying why are democrats defensive?
that is in their dna. matt and i shared this cross to bear, that they are almost always on the defensive and kind of get too much wrapped up in their own heads. yes, you should run a campaign that's on local issues that people care about. but it is your job if you're running for congress to hold the president of the united states accountable. what's happening in ohio, trump came and did a big rally, that used to be the insurance policy. if his rally has proven to hurt the republican candidate, that spells worst doom for republicans in november than we anticipated prior to this week. >> i'm rustier than you are, but what is the impeachment message for democrats in the midterms? >> this is a big moment in the history of the country. this is the most significant midterm election in american history. and we're heading into a presidential election, which is the most significant since the election of 1864, when the question that was really on the
ballot is whether we were going to continue to be one country, whether we would prevail in the civil war. this is a big moment. if the democratic strategists are sitting around, all this other stuff doesn't matter. i think they're missing the larger point. the attacks on america's institutions, the assaults on the rule of law, the personal degen degenrecy of donald trump, we look at the meanness, the corruption, the cruelty, the ability to call this out for what it is. i think it's fundamental for the democratic party achieving what i think would be a very significant wave. and by the way, to say explicitly and directly to republican college educated women, for example, we know that you don't agree with us on every issue. but on these big things, the couple of things that matter most to us as americans
transcend any partisan difference. and we must join together in this country to put a check on this. that, to me, is the compelling message. >> how do you nationalize that? if you talk to democrats privately, they'll say he got elected after "access hollywood." now we've had a year of seeing a president who accepts the support from racists, he's now governed as a year, someone who dispages bleep hole countries. >> you can -- you can win a fight in two ways -- you can bring your opponent to submission, think germany and japan after world war ii. or you can break your opponent's will to fight. and to some degree, trump is exhausting the electorate. he's wearying democratic constituents. what i would say is, what i would say is this on this
point -- he has performed some level of jedi mind trick. here's the deal -- he lost by 3 million votes. he won the popular vote, he won by 78,000 votes across three straits in a narrow victory. he is weaker. the majority of the country opposes this. it is only through the magical thinking of the trump cult that there is any capacity to believe that a majority supports it. it does not. >> what democrats have to talk about is the vast corruption of this administration, the personal corruption of donald trump and the people around him, the kind of moral corruption, and the fact that the republicans in congress will do nothing to slow him down. >> they embolden people like devin nunes who are just as corrupt. >> the republicans have nothing left to run on. we talk about the democrat's message, but the republicans started talking about the tax cut, the thing they promised for
years, and they delivered it and it's not working. they are now talking about nancy pelosi, talking about immigration, democrats wanting to abolish i.c.e. they sent the president in, the vanderbi vice president in. if none of that works, they have nothing left. >> donald trump and the republicans made a mistake when heelected, which is to suggest they have a mandate. in every one of these races, people are saying this is not the government we voted for. so we'll see that. steve is right, this was a moment in american history where donald trump won with fewer votes than the other candidate. and yet they have continued down this road of republicanism that nobody actually recognizes. democrats don't recognize it and republicans don't recognize it. after the break, a profile in pandering. new reporting from "the new york times" magazine about a man addicted to donald trump's atta boys.
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it's one part exit interview, two parts greek tragedy. a new profile of paul ryan in "new york" magazine, like when the house speaker got a call in the middle of one of their interviews. he said to mark -- >> the panel is back. this was so galling to me. i mean, mark is one of the best writers, especially of these sorts of pieces where people -- they just say stuff to somebody, but it sure explains a lot. >> his weakness is just extraordinary. and i don't want to sit here and disparage paul ryan the man. because he's a good guy.
he's a moral person. he's a decent person. take him seriously when he says i want to spend more time with my kids and family, and i didn't want to fund-raise, i didn't want to do all these things, i'm not political, i'm a policy guy. the job required hardness, firmness, toughness, standing up to this lawless president. he's weak, he's feeble, unlike anybody who has ever held the position of speaker of the house. this is a constitutional office with immense power, second in line to the presidency. when you see the abdication of responsibility to the country from the republican leadership, it is galling, it is appalling, and his legacy will be a shameful one because of it. >> i was in the room when paul ryan was elected speaker and the house caucus was struggling with who is going to be the next
leader. he said i don't want the job, i'm not sure i'll be good at it. but he was the only choice we had in many ways. i think what we're seeing with his resignation, this is no longer paul ryan's party and he knows it. this is donald trump's party, not paul ryan's. he is, at this point, because of having transacted on the corporate tax bill, nothing more than a for profit republican we see in the finance community that sold their souls for benefit of president trump. the most shocking thing about that interview, though, was his admission that president trump has architected tragedies. >> what does that mean? this is -- this is from the -- from mark's piece. this is paul ryan. "i can look myself in the mirror at the end of the day and say i avoided that tragedy, i avoided that tragedy," ryan tells me. i advanced this goal, this goal, i locked in on the word tragedy. it sets the mind reeling to what
he might be talking about. i asked for an example. no, i don't want to do that, ryan replied. that's more than what i usually say. what is he talking about? >> donald trump got the nomination. i was on the u.s. senate trail, marco rubio was running for president. and when he secured the nomination, i believe coming out of indiana, every republican candidate was expected to say we support donald trump. paul ryan and i on the same day said comments that were uncoordinated where we both said, i'm not there yet. i stuck with that. paul ryan did not. and at some point, at some point, this is a reflection of somebody's own integrity, their own conviction. he was willing to satisfy the politics of convenience, and i'll tell you this, legacies will be remembered for people who stuck on principle and didn't fail in the face of adversity. he's failed in the face of adversity. >> there was no way back after "access hollywood." and i had friends that supported him. to me, some called me and said,
there's no way back. this isn't a question of a former political consultant, this is a question for your wife, daughters, for your parents. if you can get there after what you heard on "access hollywood," go for it. but i didn't see a way back and i was shocked that paul ryan did. >> i thought he might be the one person -- i had a moment after hillary lost where i thought maybe they'll get together and elect the house -- the republican house will elect somebody else president of the united states, because it was so clear this man couldn't do it. and they went along with it. >> they're still going along with it. >> the story is how mark isolates this lack of agency they think they have. what kind of conviction do you have that you think your own voice can't matter as the speaker of the house, that you think your own supporters are so bought in, that they can't hear a truth that you're willing to tell how dangerous this president is. and it's like what steve is
saying about the democrats being -- having a self-fulfilling outcome, where if we don't act as if trump is a danger, why are people going to think that? the republican party has also bought in. think that? republican party is all so bought in, they don't have the power of their own conviction or believe their own supporters could hear them when they flag him as dangerous. no wonder the republican party is aligned with him because no one else -- they don't hear anything else. >> we have a right to know what the tragedies are. he has an obligation -- this is government of the people, by the people, for the people. we have a right to know what he's talking about there. >> in the meanwhile the republica republicans, he's at his tweets all day. guess what donald trump is talking about on the golf course? we'll tell you on the other side of the break. george woke up in pain.
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hours long, 18 holes. must have been four hours that felt like 64 out on the course. look, he's clearly obsessed by it. not surprising. but again, what lindsey is saying, it's political. this is a campaign tactic, not about the subversion of the rule of law, not about the is undering of the western alliance and the advancement of interests. there are big controversial issues at stake and every comment by an elected republican leader of the party is small. it diminishes the epic question that's before the people of this country which is do we want to put a check on this or not. >> i had heard last wednesday that donald trump was again using on the phone in the morning or around the time he sent that tweet about firing jeff sessions. my thought when i saw this is
that i'm sure robert mueller has already thought to subpoena all his golf partners. he's talking to everybody about what is on his mind. >> including hope hicks who was back on the plane with the president this weekend. my takeaway from the lindsey graham story is tpt hasn't moved off the idea of firing bob mueller. it surfaces, goes away for a while. everyone tells him it won't work. we all like to think it's impossible. but it would be so cataclysmic. the one person who hasn't let it go is donald trump. the desire to fire robert mueller, jeff sessions and the efforts his aides have had to undergo are all flash points in the obstruction of justice investigation. >> it is. the president likely faces criminal culpability at some point. i think the gaslighting of the trump base is fully complete, the republicans on capitol hill are fully bought in. i think it's under serious
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you just heard his account of the tape. did you actually hear the tape? >> i did. >> did you miss this -- >> girl, did you read my book? >> a few other highlights from the book, she claims she walked in on president trump and his lawyer, michael cohen, and the president was eating a piece of paper as if trying to hide it. she also says he had a tanning bed installed in the white house. the president himself has not commented on the book but his administration dismissed it out of hand saying in a statement yesterday, "this book is riddled with lies and false accusations." eddie, let me start with you. here we are talking about this book. how much import do you give this, what she's alleging in this book, the racist components to this presidency? >> it's just the latest evidence, but i want's just salacious talk. we shouldn't give omarosa toosm
credibili -- too much credibility in this regard. we know she's self-interested. we know what she's trying to do. it's ironic she's spent a lot of time around donald trump and this is the first time she's come to the realization he uses the "n" word and what he thinks of her. i'm still trying to square her current understanding of donald trump with that earlier comment that everyone will bow down to him. so it's just salacious stuff. we're in the world of tabloid america right now and this is just the latest instance of it. >> go ahead. >> this is -- unfortunately, we have a president driven by public opinion and reality television, so when you have -- you're being generous saying she's self-interested. i would call her a hustler. unfortunately, these type of things detract from flint, puerto rico, all these other major structural policy decisions we should be making as a nation if we had a real president who didn't actually just wake up in the morning, watch television, and think about people who are thinking about him.
omarosa has been with donald trump for well over a decade. they're more alike than they are different. we constantly give this woman oxygen where she is just a self-interested hustler. she is a salesman just like the president. whatever's in the book, we already know about the president. we're about to talk about charlottesville where he says both sides. we know who he is. he's exposed who he is time and time again when he's talked about blacks, the nfl, muslims, mexicans, immigrants in general of color. so there's nothing new unfortunately about what she's going to say in any capacity in this book. >> we talk a lot about tapes and this president. he's raised the specter of there being tapes. there was the "access hollywood" tape. the narrative of the book is she thinks these tapes exist. does it change the picture we have of him if we have these tapes? if you look back on what happened after that "access hollywood" tape that came out, the way people reacted to it.
would this make any difference? >> i have learned to lower my expectations in trump's america. i think one of the great tragedies of this president is that we as americans are forced to talk about omarosa. i think that's not like a good thing for us in terms of our culture and our politics. and he has proven an ability to get away with crimes, behaviors, alleged crimes i should say, to be technically and legally accurate, but disgusting parts of his nature that no other president would be tolerated. ask yourself if barack obama -- >> we can't play that game. we can't play that game. >> ask yourself if bill clinton, ask yourself if george h.w. bush was on tape acknowledging paying off an adult model for an alleged affair that his lawyer taped. would we still be referring to this person as mr. president. >> and your third wife is pregnant. >> so, no, i don't expect very
much. >> talking about how far things are removed away from the norms. >> i was reading some excerpts from omarosa's book. it was more of a little breakdown and some notes on it, but she even said we should stop kind of -- enabled white supremacy and the way that he is, you know, in many ways kind of instigates and manipulating people's emotions and fear into blaming others, especially people of color. >> this is a really important point. one of the reasons why this particular excerpt stands out is because he allegedly used the "n" word. and the "n" word is the marker of the bad villain, right?
>> signifier. >> the signifier of the bad villain. here we have clear evidence of the racist, just as the white supremacists in charlottesville are the clear evidence of racism, of the bigots, right? so we're always looking for the obvious villains, because that's american medrama. we need them to have our heroes and happy endings, when in fact it's the forgotten americans, the silent majority, the folks who are pining for suburban bliss that's really the oil in the engine that's driving this thing. you see? so we have this "n" word on the table. oh, he's an obvious racist. see? then you have immigration policy, you have flint, you have puerto rico, you have devos and education, you have all this stuff happen, right? you have ingram basically echoing what donald trump said in europe. all this stuff is happening. >> i think some people need the smoking gun of the "n" word. if you need to sort of hear or believe omarosa the president
actually said the "n" word, you haven't been paying attention because in my estimation he's been saying it since he rolled down that gold escalator and declared his presidency. every time he talks about the nfl he's saying it. every time he talks about lebron james or maxine waters or don lemon or any person of color in this country. this is who he is, who he was, this is when he put "c" on top of the applications of people of color when they tried to get into his buildings. we don't need the smoking gun. >> this is his life's work. >> it's him. it's everyone. so it's like if you're still waiting for this big reveal, then you haven't been paying attenti attention. >> so donald trump is effective at laundering white nationalism and white supremacy. >> wonderful phrase. >> and giving it a cleaner look. you have the policies with immigration, reducing illeglega
immigration, all to make america whiter. no one wants to be consciously a racest, so as long as you can say he never said that word, he never carried that flag, even though he's enabling people across from his front lawn to carry confederate flags today and tomorrow, he leapts people walk away with this idea that he's not doing what he wants them to know what he's doing. >> you brought up charlottesville and we're at this anniversary moment. talk about strong signifiers. i want to play a little bit of tape about what the president said with regard to race in the last year. i'm going to point out looking at the president's schedule this week, nothing there, no statement planned, no indication he's going to say anything about the anniversary. let's look at what the president has said in the course of the last year. >> we're closely following the terrible events unfolding in charlottesville, virginia. we condemn in the strongest
affectionately of course as pocahontas. pocahontas. pocahontas. how about that? i said it the other day, yes, she is a low i.q. individual, maxine waters. i said it the other day. i mean, honestly, she's somewhere in the mid-60s. i believe that. >> during a meeting in the oval office this afternoon president trump referred to haiti and other countries as, quote, s-hole countries, and told lawmakers more people from places like norway should be invited in. >> we're stopping a lot of them, but we're taking people out of the country. you wouldn't believe how bad these people are. these aren't people. these are animals. >> the president lashing out at lebron james, and in doing so, he praises michael jordan, saying in a tweet that lebron james was just interviewed by the dumbest man on television, don lemon. he made lebron look smart, which isn't easy to do. i like mike. >> as i say often, i am the least racist person that
anybody's going to meet. >> plenty to despair about there in that montage of clips. back to the first thing we heard, him talking about both side, two sides. there is such division in this country, and this president sees things in such a binary way. look at where we've come or haven't come in the last year, what do you think? again, he's missing an opportunity here this weekend to make any attempt at unifying the country in any way. >> back to what i was saying about the president enabling white supremacy. he can claim all he wants he's not racist, but if you are saying that at a white supremacist rally there are good people on both sides, then you are in essence promoting it and saying it's okay and you are encouraging it. that's a problem this president has had, is he's never actually stood up straight and gone against the wave there. but i also think kind of going to what we were saying earlier, we keep having this, like,
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we're back with the latest developments in robert mueller's investigation. investigators appear to be closing in on longtime donald trump confidant, former campaign aide roger stone by going after some of his associates. just yesterday, a judge held andrew miller in contempt for refusing to testify before the special counsel's grand jury. this morning, it remains unclear what exactly the so-called manhattan madam testified about when she appeared before the grand jury yesterday. while the president's personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, has been reapplying pressure on the special counsel to end the investigation by september the 1st, we are now learning that another stone associate expects to comply with the subpoena. his attorney says he'll testify before that grand jury on september the 7th. back me, our panel.
want to talk about this interview still looming large for the president here. dan, let me ask you first of all about what seems to be happening with regard to roger stone. you look at those three principals. what do they tell you about robert mueller's interest in roger stone? >> these are people peripheral folks to roger stone, people in his circle so, it's no surprise mueller wants to subpoena them, get their testimony, or have an interview. if they refused an interview, the next step is mueller would subpoena them. and these are people that can provide a picture into roger stone's business, his finance. the manhattan madam apparently ran his website. there's a lot of data that passes through these i.t. folks' possession, their eyes, so even if she didn't witness with her own eyes something bad, she has knowledge about data and where data goes and where it's stored. so these are all relevant inquiries. they may not have dramatic testimony, but they will be pieces of the jigsaw puzzle. >> your take on this rogue's
gallery. talking about the manhattan madam a few years after she was involved in the eliot spitzer scandal. did you think we'd be talking about her again? >> really hard to keep track of who and where and how they're all tied together and where the dots connect. it just raises more questions than it provides answers and that's been the problem all along, right, with the way any trump administration official acts, which is always kind of making people feel like you have something to hide, is there something you're guilty of. i don't know, with watching this trial, i'm not a legal expert, but, again, you know, even when it comes to andrew miller, like is there a defensive position for him to take if he wants to be held in contempt of court? is that something -- >> so in a way, miller wants to be held in contempt because that allows him to appeal that issue. you don't always get to appeal everything a judge does. there are only certain things. essentially by upping the ante, miller's team is saying hold me in contempt, now i can appeal it, now i can challenge some of the things that went into that
original grand jury subpoena. >> go ahead. >> possibly appeal the jacket that roger stone is wearing? it looks like he stole something from pee wee's play house. kind of ridiculous. and the president promised to surround himself with the best people. if this is his best, we're in a load of trouble because everyone he seems to touch has so much scandal, so much ill repute, so much bad behavior. this is not what we expect out of our oval office. >> let's talk about a few more people he's surrounding himself with. jay sekulow and rudy giuliani, the president's attorneys. there were some amazing media moments this week. jay sekulow interviewed rudy giuliani, a coup having his co-counsel on the show. at the end of the week, the two filled in for sean hannity on his radio show. take a listen. >> i think if i were the attorney general i would point an independent counsel and i'd appoint the independent counsel for two purposes. purpose number one to appropriately prosecute the
people who violated these laws. comey clearly leaked a document that he wasn't supposed to leak. >> if you look at the scope and nature of this inquiry, the way it started, the corruption at the outset. >> it surely looks like an i illegitimate investigation. the president of the united states said a long time back it's a witch-hunt. >> i see two guys hungry to be in a courtroom i guess. they're waging this argument in the public square. they've been doing it week after week. the tenets of the argument haven't changed. >> they're right where they want to be. this is not about a legal strategy. this is about a public relations strategy. the whole aim is to dele mitt legitima -- delegitimize mueller and the investigation so no matter what happens, what comes down, right, in the broader public, there is a sense of deep skepticism about the conclusions drawn. so if donald trump is found to have conspired or colluded, if
he's found to have obstructed, they're setting the stage for those conclusions to be undermined. this is in the court of public opinion. rudy giuliani -- i'm not a lawyer, danny, but any legal standard he has fallen on his face over and over and over gn it seems to me. i don't see that as a legal strategy. >> one question, danny. do they get to charge trump by the hour when they're on the radio for three hours talking about his case? >> everything is billable. the question is whether or not he pays. but, yes, in 0.6-hour increments, six-minute increments. i'm billing david right now. 0.2 hours. >> when they're not doing talk radio, these two guys are pen pals to robert mueller, going back and forth with him on the terms of this interview of president trump, whether or not that's going to happen. it to put up on the wall behind to me here, we know from "the new york times" these 44 questions that robert mueller is interested in asking president
trump if he were to get him to sit down. you see them there. the latest back and forth between the president's legal counsel to robert mueller is they don't want to answer any questions about obstruction. so there are those 44 questions. if you were to take away all of the questions that had to do with -- look at that -- with obstruction, you're left with fewer. i think 19 questions. what do you make of this back and forth? we talk about this being waged in the court of public opinion. this is extraordinary to have the sense that these counsel have as much agency in this as they think they do. >> it's a good graphic because it's important for us to separate collusion, russian interference, and obstruction, because, again, i'm a biased defense attorney, the chief complaint with obstruction of justice is it is created by the very investigation into the original thing. and even if there's ultimately no underlying crime, you can obstruct justice, and that's what rudy giuliani is truly afraid of, because who ultimately determines if you're being false or misleading to agents is the agents themselves.
and if they've already developed a view of the case, it's a very difficult decision to decide to sit down your client with u.s. attorneys because if they have a different view of the case than the investigators, then the investigators have already decided who's liable, who's done what, and they will think your client is lying. so it's very important to keep the obstruction separate from the underlying investigation. >> i also think it's important to remember the double standard that's happening here. there are thousandings of kids and young people on rikers island jail in new york city, hundreds of children who have been separated from their parents, being wlisi iwhisked o the country during their hearings. they don't have the luxury of choosing which crimes they've been accused of. these guys are playing with -- they say equal agency. they're showing their extreme privilege and luxury to be able to play at lawyering at this level. >> i would call it presidential privilege and luxury reserved to exactly one person, because 100%
of other defense attorneys will tell you they have never been able to go to an assistant u.s. attorney and say, hey, i hear you want to talk to my client, here are my terms and conditions, and no line prosecutor would run that up to the flagpole to his superior and say, so, boss, i have this suspect or this target and he wants to submit questions. that u.s. attorney, his career, would be finished. there is 0.0 chance that would happen. in a sense you're right, this is the one person in the united states who you could say has this privilege. >> thank you very much. >> danny, thanks for joining us. i'll ask the rest of you to stick around with me. up next, the big dinner in iowa usually hosts presidential hopefuls. so stormy daniels'n michael avenatti showed up.
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and ultimately i'll make a decision. >> michael avenatti speaking at a democratic party fund raiser in iowa last night as he considers a run for the oval office. democrats he says want a fighter to challenge president trump in 2020. i want to bring my panel back in here. christina, i'm going to turn to you first. he says he wants a fighter. is that what the democratic party needs at this point? >> the democratic party needs a lot of things. michael avenatti is not one of them. okay? it would be ideal -- if michael avenatti were a republican, i would say, sure, force him to come to the table and talk about some issues. michael avenatti dipping his toes into the democratic party politics when we already know we'll have a very crowded field of qualified individuals, many of them are flawed, and we're going to have to sift through who the best representative will be to go against a tabloid president who already has an advantage as the incumbent sitting president. so the democrats already have an uphill battle. having avenatti in there poking
holes in all of elizabeth barren, deval patrick, eric holder, who knows who's going to jump in? but it will probably be a very crowded field. we don't need him. we don't want him. unfortunately, he's been on this network multiple times a day. >> yeah. >> but some people would say, like, is this just a self-serving vanity project for him to either get his own show, to make more money, whatever it may be, but there are 320 million people who need you to step aside. we have bigger fish to fry. and i don't think his qualifications are such that we need him in the race in 2020. >> he's known for having good lines, often expressed on twitter. he had a few last night. he said democrats are fond of bringing nail clippers to gunfights. could that be useful? i looked at this new profile of paul ryan, the house speaker, and mark lee said what paul ryan
said is fighting with this president doesn't work. that's how he explains not being more adversarial to the president. take that as you may. could he change the democratic party in its approach to fighting with republicans? >> maybe and maybe for the better. and i do not think he should be the president or the democratic nominee. i think that fighting spirit is what a lot of us are hungry for. this week the senate judiciary committee democrats filed a freedom of information suit to get the papers of brett kavanagh, who wants to join our supreme court. they did that and i cheered because they were fighting. >> even though they won't get them before september. >> when the house of representatives held that sit-in and live streamed it because the feed was cut, i cheered because they fought, because there are 320 million people who need leadership. i don't think from what i've sewn th seen that michael avenatti is the lead they're we need, but he has the fighting spirit we need and some of the rhetoric we need. he demonstrates an unwillingness to back down in the face of
probable tyranny that i do respect. >> you're basically saying he'll pull the other qualified democratic candidates possibly -- give them some fire? >> i wish he would take over the democratic congressional committee campaign's e-mails. the democratic fund-raising e-mails. so there's a match. >> i don't think he will pull them to the left. >> you don't. >> no. >> you know, look, i've gone on twitter and said that michael avenatti is a beast in the way in which -- >> favorable assessment. >> favorable. the way he's pushed the stormy daniels case. only two people that donald trump is quiet about, that's vladimir putin and stormy daniels. >> there's a ticket. >> aputin/daniels 2020. >> every trap avenatti set for trump, trump stepped right in it. but his politics, i'm not sure he would pull them to the left.
what i hear you saying is that we need someone to forcefully argue, to forcefully articulate and defend, right, a set of values on behalf of everyday, ordinary people who are most vulnerable. paul ryan is spineless. that's why he can't fight. he has no courage, because donald trump is doing what he's actually committed to. he's willing to engage in that. i don't want to listen to him. but when you have the senate, they will sit there and they will file their freedom of information act, right, but they're going to green stamp it anyway. you saw them sit in in the house of representatives, that was performance more than anything. when it comes down to the actual substance of things, the majority of the party is beholden to corporate interest, and we need someone to come in to really pull it to the left. now, my friends will say, eddie, here you go again, you're off -- we're not going to win. this is now democrats lose elections. i do know one thing. if the democratic party act as
like republican light this election cycle, they'll lose. >> we're talking about michael avenatti because michael avenatti has been on tv a lot. people know who he is. how many candidates might be better leaders and have good policy? instead we're focusing on michael avenatti, which kind of reminds me of 2016. >> we don't have much time because money is real and people start raising money essentially november 7th of 2018 if they want to be a contender. >> so let's get kamala harris a podcast. >> up next, the trump administration calling the space force one giant leap in the right direction, but late night just thinks it's the gift that keeps on giving. >> our adversaries have transformed space into a war-fighting domain already, and the united states will not shrink from this challenge. >> pence's speech reminds me of jfk's immortal words --
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in your face, neill armstrong. >> i can't breathe in this thing! >> the time has come to establish the united states space force. >> that was not a scene from a movie. that was real. >> the stuff of fiction poised to become a reality. vice president mike pence making good on a throw-away line from the president of the united states in a rally a few months ago saying we should have a space force in this country, mike pence saying we could have one by 2020. go around the table and the odds of this happening. eddie, space force. >> it's stupid as hell. >> no words. >> no. it's a west of resources unless it gets us a ticket, you know, out of here. >> why is this happening? >> it's a distraction. it's also a way to, you know,
start giving kickbacks to other industries. everything with donald trump boils down to money. it boils down to griffithing i theft. this is how donald trump operates and throws a little for you, skips a little for himself, and here we are. so it's another money-making scheme for donald trump and his friends, and that will shore up yet another series of upper-echelon republicans who will stay with him. >> going to be in the space force? >> i will not. i think it's ironic this team is talking about dominating space and we can't even defend our own infrastructure from cyberattacks on a constant basis. and to militarize space is the wrong direction. i visited johnson space center. to see the actual cooperation that happens in space because of the international space station despite what's going on earth is
a beautiful thing and a testament to how we could be as people. they want to take that from us too. these guys ruin everything good. >> can we get the subways to run? >> can we reunify parents with their children first? if you can't do that, i don't think you need to think about space. >> coming up, another trump associate indicted by robert mueller. that makes i think eight in total. the latest on that coming up next. [music playing] (vo) from the beginning, wells fargo has supported community organizations like united way, non-profits like the american red cross, and our nation's veterans. we knew helping our communities was important then. and we know it's even more important today. so we're stepping up to volunteer more and donate over a million dollars every day. so our communities can be even stronger. it's a new day at wells fargo. but it's a lot like our first day.
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among republicans and joining us, allan lichtman teaches history at american university. turn to you first for historical perspective. the lists are getting longer and longer. put this administration in context when you look at the level of corruption, investigative interest in this administration. >> you have to go back to the watergate scandals to find this level of corruption. course, dozens of administration and campaign officials were indicted and convicted during watergate, but that was more in the pursuit of political power. what we have here is the crassest pursuit of personal gain and a complete absence of any ethical standards whatsoever that starts from the very top of this administration. i would also want to point out in a deeper sense, this is the most corrupt administration in history, because first of all, it has corrupted the truth.
it's not just that trump lies periodically. it is that he has destroyed the very concept of truth. it's dissolved under trump. once you lose the truth, all that's left as nietzsche pointed out, naked power. secondly, in pursuit of making a few people in the fossil fuel industry even richer than they are now, donald trump is threatening our very survival on this planet. climate change is not a theory. it's here. it's now. it's threatening humanity. california is burning up. there are droughts all over, and what is donald trump doing? not only halting the effort to combat climbed change but turning back the clock. you know in 2009, businessmen wrote to barack obama and said the science is irrefutable. unless we do something about climate change it's going to
threaten the survival of humanity. you know who signed that letter? donald trump sr. >> turn around and look at the pantheon of this administration indicted thus far, michael flynn, of course, paul manafort behind me. a reference to nietzsche. >> dangerous, keep comparing it to watergate. it is not. a complete abdication of congress serving at the check on this president. the cons states states, right? three distinct branches and the papers lead out what needs to happen. checks and balances are needed for this fragile democracy to continue. >> talking paul ryan? >> a kind of cascading collection of institutions failing to live up to what they're supposed to do. failing to do what they're
supposed to do, but emoluments. making millions, scott pruitt, price, we can go on and on. devos. mick mulvaney. >> all the credits. >> go on and on. right? to use a dungeons and dragons expression, drifters. >> for the people who are about to vote. >> if you make a magic cards reference. >> i will not. i guarantee you. the people about to vote it's important to remember these leaders don't care about you. they care about themselves. they are enriching themselves, and eddie, earlier you mentioned delegitimizing efforts that this president is under. that's what's happening. they're delegitimizing the truth, delegitimatizing the norms that run our country, the way we're supposed to interact with one another and permitting all the horrible versions of those things. end of the day, they're there to get themselves rich. >> not all of them.
because we don't want to say it's all. that discouraging people from turning out. >> i want to jump in -- >> don't care about the people who don't have it. >> it's not just republicans, too. yes, the trump associates but the fact a member of congress can sit on a board of a company like that and also be on a committee they oversee these things, none should be legal and shows how corrupted elements of our democracy have become. >> jump in. quickly. >> fast, you know, the big picture is, income and equality in part because of all the things you're talking about today is as bad as it was on the eve of the great depression in 1939. all the gains of 70 and 80 years wiped out. >> good morning, everybody. what a way to start the day. joining us from washington, d.c. i thank my pardnel for joining . much more coming up.
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when the poet celebrates the bird and the song or a snare of the dog when the laurel leaf trembles the palm sways the swarm sings on the threshold quakes in expectation of him was awaited then the temple will shake knocks and gates will shatter and there will be singing and dancing. callin marcus of sirene. springtime apollo had returned. to the center of the world to delphine.
i fear the prophet task had ended her winter silence. as every year at the start of the season the sight of the article was a hive of activity. traders took full advantage of the situation and for a while the sacred site was turned into something of a bazaar. from the eighth to the fifth century b.c. hardly any decision was taken in greece without the article being consulted first.
the prophetic ritual of delphic existed for a thousand years remaining virtually unchanged throughout that time. before cooling the god. and will have priests always cleansed themselves in the cost alec found and. then they mounted a procession to the temple of apollo. that assisted by temple servants the prophet has burned laurel branches. now and nothing stood in the way of the god being consulted by thea descended the
steps into the holiest of holies. the procession of those seeking advice united friend and fellow. spartans marched in harmony with athenians despite the bitter war that raged between them and then one hundred kilometers away was claiming fresh victims every day. was it the banal question of who would emerge victorious from the terrible conflict or what was each side perhaps ready thinking ahead and taking the opportunity to discuss the situation with the enemy. the reason and irrationality always lay closer together in delphic than anywhere else in the world . as it still does today the
route taken for the procession began at the lowest point of the sacred precinct this is where the pilgrims set out with their laurel branches and votive offerings . the one for more than a thousand years this route was paved with hopes of a positive answer from apollo on a high. on says to personal problems all political decisions affecting the existence of entire nations will be defeat the persians all will they triumphed over runs.
the coffee shop to the sanctuary of apollo is a trip through the history of ancient greece through its great victories but also through its process of self-destruction as an ensemble of small city states. the monument to lysander all that remains all foundation stones and inscriptions. spartans built what is the biggest monument ever erected in delfi by a greek state to celebrate a victory over its enemies. for the athenians this reminder of their disgrace was a double provocation because immediately opposite stood their temple of statues where they thanked the god for their victory at marathon. delfi then was not only the site of peaceful artistic competition. for many
visitors at that time the past up to python year really must have been akin to running the gauntlet. row upon endless row of votive gifts of go and ivory and other precious materials that sought to outdo one another in the last splenda. a small number can still be seen today in the museum.
the treasure house of the athenians after the battle of marathon athens dedicated it spoils of war from the medias to apollo. according to an inscription this is where the trophies from the battle against the persians were exhibited. were the victors saw themselves as golds they don't want the phrase with scenes depicting theseus fighting the amazons and the demons of herod. such unbridled hero worship invited contradiction. the foundation stones of the treasure house of cyrus diagonally opposite. in sicily figures experienced the greatest disaster in their history the few who survived the
battle had to work as slaves in the mines of siren queues digging perhaps for the go which the enemy is used to make leaning votive gives. one of the r. and is a vague and intended scenario thousands of visitors were shown that the gods never let pride and arrogance go unpunished. but the real secret of the power of the oracle was the ambiguity which made its prophecy is infallible. between the eighth and the fifth century b.c. in greece retribution the thirst for revenge and intolerance were very much the reality in public and private life the cities were overcrowded. poverty and despair widespread.
missed god who recognized the currents of the time well in advance. he gave signs that one understood. tolerance delphine always tolerated other gods in his sanctuary. mercy the weak were given a chance to show the victors that limitation. justice not to place the power of the stronger.
the python games were pan hellenistic games which like those at a limb p.-a took place every four years. they embraced music poetry and there as well as i've let it disciplines like the pentathlon and chariot races. in accordance with what apollo would have wished a sacred armistice existed for the duration of the games. within sight of what was a peaceful test of strength the stones of delving became a diplomatic forum. the god ruled over delfi for a thousand years. with their political farsightedness at times his priest esses and priests enjoyed more influence than the rulers yet then names remain unknown.
one of the last or regular pronouncements from the year three hundred sixty b.c. sounds almost like a statement of abdication i am. tells a router that the place so blessed with the arts lies in ruins for a boss no longer has a roof nor a prophetic laurel the spring that speaks has fallen silent its waters no longer. were.
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the latest poll try high definition cameras to ensure our roads is safe. i mean first of all and let's do business if donald trump has his way a radian oil exports will cease next month ramped up sanctions will hit hard the international monetary fund expects the runs recession to deepen saying the economy could for tracking by six percent. here in tehran people are exchanging reales as fast as they can faith in the iranian currency has fallen dramatically it now takes a stack of them one hundred forty four thousand at the moment to purchase a single dollar and most people fear the u.s. sanctions will drive the rio down even further. of course the country's revenues are going to drop and maybe the real value will drop as well in the end the pressure that they're putting on us is pressure on the people. you know you some people have fixed limited wages like us. when prices rose we had to
change a lot of things our rent went out. then we were forced to spend our money on rent instead of food at the hauraki and. the i.m.f. has warned that inflation will drive prices even further in the country this year and that would drive many more were indians into poverty this would have. an impact on social specially sentients have led to an increase in inflation. inflation. reaching fifty percent before of course in any economy will suffer recession as the iranian government says it's considering counter measures to u.s. sanctions and it's even threaten to close the straits of hormuz a key passage for international trade. lots of warnings today from the i.m.f. that this dispute could destabilize the entire region tehran saying the latest
sanctions will rock world oil markets let's bring in sunday he's following the financial markets for us from frankfurt i should toss what are oil prices doing and where are they going. well oil prices are marginally up and but they're still well below the highs the six month highs that they saw last week following the announcement that the waivers will not be extended having said that experts tell me that they don't expect the oil prices to go through the roof as many of fearing because of two main factors and then one is because the china and india continue to buy oil from iran using some of the barrel in payment mechanisms and the other they feel that there is enough spare production capacity considering that major or producers are producing oil below the output into a deal with opec countries and other major oil producers including russia i think
what's really interesting here is to hear the u.s. president tell opec it should start raising output to soften the impact of his sanctions against iran. it's really strange creates a problem and then he expects to fight with it but saudi arabia is going to be cautious this time around they're not going to start pumping oil from day one because last time around they were became a victim to trump and. started increasing their production and suddenly their way was the knowledge and the oil prices crashed and so it was left to actually governing its losses so it will it will definitely not do this this time around as it does thank you very much for your analysis from frankfurt there. tourists continue to cancel their travel plans to sri lanka last week's attacks in colombo claims the lives of over three hundred people the island
had enjoyed relative peace and a booming tourism sector since the end of its civil war decade ago but now sri lanka's tourism bureau chairman says he expects visits to the capital to fall by half in the next three months he also predicts that tourism in other areas of the country will drop substantially india china and the u.k. provide the largest groups of foreign tourists to sri lanka. tomorrow will mark the end of an era in japan a stark abdication of emperor akihito the first application in two hundred years and a big event for business environment of crown prince not all hito promises to give breweries hotels and shops a huge boost. these two want to tie the knot before the end of the outgoing he say era which means achieving peace and they are far from the only ones the wedding industry in japan has taken off since the start of april when the enthronement celebration dates were confirmed.
for us this year will be a year with a lot of memorable events for the last year of the he say iraq will be one we won't forget. any time soon. other businesses are also looking to cash like this stamp maker in the new era which means beautiful harmony people will purchase products like calendars and letter paper bearing the new stamps. experts expect private consumption to rise by over seven point five percent during the ten days of the celebrations. which is. the office because more things are going digital the hunt goes stamp business hasn't been doing so well in the last few years but we see this is a business opportunity and i think the change to the new era is a good thing for the. brakes known as the golden week holidays take place every
year but this year due to the enthronement they've been extended to ten days and many people will have the entire time off work the country's biggest travel agency says a record twenty five million japanese are expected to travel during the period and that will benefit hotels restaurants trains and many other service industries. in march there was talk of an impending recession but experts are now saying the celebrations could well drive up economic growth by a quarter of a point in the second quarter and manufacturers don't seem worried either carmaker toyota said its plants would remain closed for nine days not everyone's excited about the party though even the stock exchanges are closing and some traders worry the shutdown will have an impact on the yen. let's talk about the economic impacts with she's done a lot of reporting for us from japan grew up there and was there just recently as
well how important are these celebrations to the japanese of we are we talking about equivalent of the british royals here or the japanese royals even bigger. i wouldn't really necessary say the royals are bigger. there less of a deal there but the era change is a huge deal. i've only been i've only known to his share of the current era actually it doesn't happen that often and also the thing is usually if an area changes it's because and then production is this very solemn and also very sudden affair but here people have been able to prepare for the last more than two years and it's a big party for the nation basically so obviously you're younger than two hundred years old how does all of this and these celebrations translate into yen how does it translate into business for japan it. well as we have seen in the piece beforehand a lot of it was because people still want to purchase things in the history era and
also the whole golden weeks thing is a huge deal right now for the economy because japanese people never get time off for ten days on just you know one piece and that was a big deal but also the thing is that small businesses as well as big businesses are jumping on the idea also the new areas bandwagon selling special edition there was even a story on one company who has canned air of his they're the current era and is going to sell it which is just completely crazy but they make a lot of money doing that japanese and they're hard workers tell me about their purchasing power because are they going to be able to keep this up is it just going to be a temporary spike that we see for an economy that's otherwise in a bit of trouble well the problem here is really just because you have a ten day holiday just because and protein just doesn't mean that you all of them have more money in a pocket so for example these ten day holidays that's a lot of money that's been spent if you're family and you're going to hawaii for
a week and you're spending a fortune on it which you definitely are you going to be careful about what you're going to buy off the words for the rest of the year so a lot of the experts there are quite scared that after this hike that they. it's going to be a dip in the economy same thing happened after the tax hike actually two thousand and fourteen consumption tax hike everybody was really happy about people buying lots of stuff and then for the end of the year just the economy tanked so tell me or not no or how is japan holding onto its position as the world's top economy considering all of these changes it's going through it's trying to hold on to so many traditions and yet it's going digital and it is a high tech nation but it's also an aging population the problem there really. people don't really realize how big japan is as an economy they've been actually i looked this up and even i was really surprised although i've been studying this that they were the second biggest economy from nine hundred seventy up till two
thousand and ten well meaning that they are stagnating they are having their problems but on a very high level they need that's why they've been able to keep their status for this long but they have a really big manufacturing sector all of that but the problem is for example germany is right behind japan so if they don't address those problems it's going to be very problematic for germany on the hot heels of japan thank you very much keel over there for us or an engineering firm in tokyo is testing whether eight k. cameras can replace visual safety checks of key infrastructure ultra high definition technology has sixteen times the number of pixels as standard age the experts say it can be better than the human eye. the inspection vehicle makes its way through a tunnel in thomas city just outside tokyo it's traveling at the normal speed of the traffic around it a quick trip down one lane and back up the other and the roof mounted camera
produces pictures clear enough for inspectors. i think the technology can minimize the burden of manual inspections and reduce the social costs of traffic jams and i got to talk to. the should talk or engineering company is testing eight k. technology to inspect expressways in metropolitan tokyo ideally the technology can be paired with artificial intelligence to spot areas in need of repair. one japanese camera maker sharp wants to use the technology for surveillance. eight k. cameras can see what the human eye can't they can be used in many industries not just for entertainment but. for now tunnels are a good starting point. six
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yes but it isn't doubt all of us as a united people must move forward we want peace we don't want confrontation and frank i mean but correct this was the scene of clashes including this moment when vehicles rammed into the crowd leaving casualties behind. the top generals so far staying loyal to madeira. that's despite mike pompei a united states secretary of state saying that venezuela's key generals are already at the negotiating table. remained defiant focus on who even merge victorious in every situation and will continue to emerge victorious in any difficulty that we will face from now on in the upcoming months and years i have no doubt about it. and late into the night so too is why do. media for an even bigger uprising. so where's this headed for someone else i'm
joined now by i psec risk over of readers from latin american department good morning isaac opposition leader wonder why don't let's start with him he's calling for more protests today what can we expect in caracas in the rest of it as well you know brian her you way the needs resides today that he has kind of success just today with this big surprise to free leopoldo lopez to call it that is progress but underground after a day it looks like. the separation is fading so he needs resized today he needs to bring a lot of people to the street he has called for the biggest march in history of the country so he needs people under three to my dude who has called his supporters to go to the street to so i think we are going to see protests and the question is how big they are going to be and i fear that could be violence to again yesterday ok now as are both sides of color have called out their supporters and we're going to
be looking at the numbers the both sides you could be getting out on the streets there but what about the military where is the military lining up both leaders claim to have their support what's the actual situation. what it actually station is that way though has some militarists some military leaders on his side showed is just so they but i do know has also a lot of. i think the top generals are still with me and that's the point at stake the decision the decision if the military did top general. stay in by my duty. program of the risk to prevail ok so it's all up to the military and where they line up and who they are back in the u.s. of course has been very involved secretary of state mike pompei was saying that russia has persuaded me to remain in the country and not go into exile in cuba what do we know about the extent of support russia and cuba are offering president
maduro right now i think it's a lot of confusion going on out there in venezuela. we know for sure cuba has been a long long time alley to venezuela it's. been since chavis into a child is so low no they have a lot of intelligence people working with them in this. there for a long time. just how difficult. their russian troops that to we know that russia has some advisers to military advisers they sent military advice that. i think they have a role to play to their military advisors to russia has given a lot of diplomatic. support of innisfail for something to us ok so no truth from cuba or russia but military and diplomatic intelligence military intelligence and and diplomatic help the u.s. increasing its pressure secretary or your security adviser rather john bolton
national security adviser claiming for the first time that some of materials closest allies including some members of the military are talking about ousting him and giving their support to the opposition to one why do what do we know about these claims and about the support that the u.s. is giving one go i don't know. but we talk about such before and i think this a lot of confusion going on there in terms of propaganda and we cannot say at this point if it's true that whether one's going to cuba about the u.s. u.s. is has given my dude on bennett's a lot of support and diplomatic support. the sanctions though they put in the last month that's what i always promised i was talking about a military option too i don't think it is very probably possible now that we are going to see in u.s. military intervention in minutes where the feed costs less for american countries
to alice of way though and the for don't like to see military troops and. u.s. troops in venezuela and that. think of history to let her make and the u.s. . ok so it will look like the u.s. will pose more economic sanctions but no interjection of troops into the region that's what i would say at this point ok thanks very much our sick riscoe rodriguez for us today thanks very much. as we just heard there one white oh is banking on support from the united states but other countries in the region are divided on who to back which leader here's some of the reactions from us we're listening verse. one go i don't know has at least one ally in a high place the white house said it is watching and waiting on the situation in venezuela and hoping the result is democracy we stand with the people of it as well we stand with the long white oh i mean euro has to go but other potential allies
are more ambivalent mexico is just one of the countries that has expressed concern and has held back on endorsing. no intervention and the self-determination of the people and peaceful resolution of conflict at least one of my duros key allies bolivia is standing by its friend. you need we condemn the beginning of a coup d'état. we reject it. and i make you cool to the democratic countries to defend democracy and to defend the people's vote. as allies and detractors around the region place their political bets the world waits to see which president will come out on top. time and check in with some of the other stories making the news at this hour a vigil is planned at the americans
university of north carolina charlotte a day after two people were killed four injured when a gunman opened fire on a couch as the shooting happened in the last day of classes the twenty two year old suspect is in custody. u.s. lawmakers will have a new line of inquiry to pursue when attorney general william barr hears before the senate judiciary committee or committee later today the u.s. justice department says special counsel robert mueller complained to the attorney general about how barbara trade the conclusions of his russian report. facebook says it will be restructuring its platform to be more private at the social media giants annual conference c.e.o. mark zuckerberg announced a new end to end encrypts in ford's messaging service and the ability to hide likes and other user reactions to content there's. a new era has started in japan after the abdication of emperor akihito his oldest son nor hito has ascended to the
chrysanthemum throne at a ceremony naruhito was presented with the imperial galley of sword and door box each wrapped in cloth. later he made his first public address as emperor pledging to follow his father's example in devoting himself to peace and staying close to the people. so then i also swear that i will act according to the constitution and fulfill my responsibility as the symbol of the state and of the unity of the people of japan while always turning my thoughts to the people and standing with them. so he blushed as a journalist in tokyo she's been covering the ceremonies at the imperial power palace good morning sania how does naruhito intend to mark his reign well like you mentioned earlier he wants to very much follow his parents and follow their rule of being close to the people and painting piece he was obviously very much inspired by them and i think that's what he also had to go through to be big
d.w. . this is the dubliners life from a victory for spain's socialist in the country's general election but now they face some tough choices prime minister patters sanchez his party falls short of majority in a difficult coalition talks lie ahead and bring you the latest from madrid also on the program. bans face coverings in the aftermath of the easter bombings and boards of islam as militants are planning new attacks. and a new voice for turkey international broadcasters including to respond to the
government's crackdown on independent media with opponents of a new you tube channel. time filled gal welcome to the program. spain's governing socialist safwan the country's national election but fall in well short of a parliamentary majority with just twenty nine percent of the vote prime minister petro sanchez must now attempt to form a coalition government a process that could take weeks or even months sunday's vote also saw a far right party and to parliament for the first time since the end of military rule in one thousand nine hundred eighty five vox took ten percent of the vote. the reality sinks in an election that leaves no party in power many in spain were relieved however that the far right had not done even better than it did at the polls. but i mean helpful for me i think it's
a good result insincerely i didn't expect it i thought the right wing was going to win so it's cool for me. but i mean. me but then we think that the socialist victory is good and now there is hope that the bad guys don't win. the socialist party leader petro sanchez had explicitly pitched his party to voters as the best way to stop the far right. the spaniards have sent a very clear message to europe and to the world it is possible to win against reactionaries and authoritarianism with progressive proposals. but sanchez faces an uphill battle forming a ruling coalition the far right party vox may not have won but it still had a record night this election marks the first time a far right party has gained seats in the spanish parliament since the days of general franco. restore so no three c.p.o.
this is only the beginning you know i'm also not a complete told you i aim was to reach out and that's exactly what we have done yet if you don't have a little bit we have a voice in parliament we can now say loud and clear to the entire country that folks has come to stay in the mainstream conservative people's party suffered big losses it was their worst election to date a sign that the polarization that is affected politics across europe has come to spain possibly for a long time to come. straight to the spanish capital than where we joined it only correspondent a public welcome public so what. has his options for forming a coalition government. well first and foremost it's going to be difficult for him that's for sure because of course he folds quite far short of a majority he has expressed a desire along with the number two and a socialist government capable to govern alone just with basically the support
somehow of party such as them most of course that's the party and then regional parties too but he also hasn't ruled out the idea of entering into government with that would be best for them once he said that in an interview in the days leading up to the election on sunday but we're going to have a few weeks now of a negotiations and everybody is waiting here in spain with bated breath to see who exactly pedro sanchez or how he decides to form his new government let's talk about the far right the vox the value of. st paul and how much influence other locked into how. well the influence is i mean that they have ten percent of the vote today for a day of really come here with you know a significant percentage considering that at the last time around and even have an m.p. in twenty sixteen at they said that their plan is essentially to make a noise and this is just the beginning of vox their idea is basically to make people and realise what they're about him what their policies are about and that
way they can grow as a party so that next time around they'll they'll grow and they seem to be pretty certain that. they've used the word which i suppose has has surprised and shocked some people in spain which is which means resistance now what that means exactly is a little bit on shore but basically their plan is to make changes in spain and they want spain to go in a slightly different direction to the one that we're seeing it going and now with. a look of a good conservative people's party its worst national results what does this tell us about the state of spain's political sense. it's more really the political right where we've really seen the changes because we've seen how the sort of more conservative parties are fractured into three essentially the nose who are sort of a liberal center party swung more to the right the p.p.p. at the people's party it was felt perhaps went too far to the right and sort of
didn't manage to talk into their more moderate the center voters who left the party and perhaps voted for the nose that was a very good night was a very good night for them and even voters who went from the part of the of people out to the socialists they said today that they need to reflect and they need to see what direction they should take the party and from now but certainly it is being a terrible night for the people's party under particular for their leader public us out of. public. madrid thank you and i'm sure some of the other stories making news around the world the commander of the u.s. military prison at guantanamo bay in cuba has been filed a statement from the u.s. southern command said to be admiral john brink had been removed because of a loss of confidence in his ability to command the controversial prison at guantanamo were set up to detain suspected terrorists captured overseas after the nine eleven terror attacks in the u.s. . at least six people are dead after jihad this open file on
a church in the north became the fast so gunmen on motorbikes targeted worshipers in the town of so god as they were leaving sunday services authorities say it's the first attack on the church since jihad is the violence broke out in the country in twenty sixteen. indonesian president joker widodo house decides to move his nation's capital a white cloud to mega city of jakarta and you look asian hasn't been finalised by thirty million people live in or needs a cottage which is in a low lying coastal region susceptible to flooding. and the catholic church in sri lanka is urging the government to crack down hard on islamic extremists in the aftermath of last week's east of bombings the archbishop of columbus said the church might not be able to stop people from taking the law into their own hands if the government failed to prevent further attacks. the scenes of everyday life on the streets of colombo underlying tension. after sunday's deadly bombings
security remains tight for good reason officials say that terrorists are planning another wave of attacks using military uniforms and vehicles to disguise themselves . the police are racing to root out the two extremist groups behind the massacre. on friday fifteen people died when security forces stormed the safe house in the city of terrorist mastermind sorrow and shame three of those killed were his relatives. prime minister o'neill victoria told the press that large amounts of chemicals have been found in the raid he said efforts must now focus on finding those that are ready to strike again. if. you need to focus on. and. to help find an emergency law has banned the use of face veils the move has been criticised by some who feel that it will
alienate the country's muslim minority but for many muslims security concerns that way religious sensitivities for now. this is. the moment it's not good yeah. next friday. but even if police managed to stop further attacks and religious tensions don't get out of hand the country's tourism chief estimates choice numbers will plunge by half in the coming months. and that's certain to have a lasting effect on sri lanka's economic wellbeing. japan is preparing to mark the end of an era on tuesday with the idea haitian of he took a thirty year right first a japanese moment to abdicate in the modern era he's no stranger to breaking with tradition. akihito was
a groundbreaking figure long before he became emperor in one nine hundred fifty nine he married a commoner michiko a major taboo but the people loved it the couple recently celebrated their sixtieth anniversary. and such toshi hope their union will last that long the two wanted to marry during the akihito era they are nearly out of time with his abdication looming. i spent thirty years of my life in this era since i was a year old we've lived through catastrophes but i want to keep this time in my heart and enjoy the new era they've always teeth and going off. now akihito is abdicating the first emperor to do so for two hundred years now. few years ago after two operations. i sensed that my ability to lead was fading
also in view of my age i'm worried that i can't fulfill my job a symbol of the state with all my strength as i have been up till now. and. archytas role is partly to act as the conscience of the nation he's the official defender of the pacifist constitution visiting war memorials and paying homage to victims of japanese aggression he's criticised tends to justify japan's military history including by the ruling conservatives under prime minister shinzo abhi. son novel he told is supposed to carry on the tradition. of it the two of them have a father son relationship. i think the father has always passed on his wisdom not that he says you have to do this but i think the future emperor has learned much from the old one. man rushes from the crowd akihito his wedding didn't go off
without a hitch stones were thrown and people tried to climb into the imperial coach me once a toshi enjoyed a day of peace and harmony. and they w. has teamed up with major international broadcasters to launch a new source of independent information for turkey plus ninety started today on the huge you it is a joint venture between the p.b.c. france and the voice of america is being launched in response to the turkish government's restrictions on the jailing of independent journalists. living in a diverse complicated country tested by tara and our people. there the future of turkey the under thirty five so make up half the population there the target audience of plus ninety nine you voice in the media and it's now on you tube. manages from the four media groups involved launched plus nineteen
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large crowds approaches have amounted to some. freedom. successes but not a change in the revolution which is what most of the people that are protesting want now what the people today are protesting and they feel involved and also by the support of some military that we saw supporting one way though they want the end of the corner for the leader presidency and as a future patient that's what they call it and to start a government of transition and then to have free and fair elections that is the what's motivating people to protest today that is what was motivating then to go to the protests tomorrow on the day and that's what we're seeing today. the role of the military he's going to be in there but it's also quite confused at the moment we have why though saying that he has. the militia leaders supporting him and the president say that he has total loyalty from the army. yes it's very confusing
sometimes we have journalists here have to read between the lines because we do not get official information from the government that's where the military is planning to do or role do it is in the tortillas that we've seen only pronouncements from the minister of defense but we haven't seen any pronunciations or any kind of information given from any of the high military ranking officials that the lead the air force the army the navy and all the other forces. which usually when we see something like an uprising of today happen they are quick to respond on twitter or on any other form of communication we've also seen that communication from the color of my daughter has been. very seldom as
well. proportion to what we're seeing on the streets today we've only seen some information but not that much from the group of muslims government so we've heard people saying that today is not the whole never this day of this operation live it's a is today's riots any different to the ones that we've seen across the last year the last few years. yes it's very different because we're seeing a civilian movement supported by some military officials and that's what people are seeing on their screens on the internet we're here in venezuela we're not seeing that much on television. but that is what is involving people to go to the streets take to the streets because that's giving them hope to see the military supporting their claim to a change in venezuela and to restore democracy which is what the opposition is saying that they're fighting for. so it is
a civilian movement supported by military officials and then other elements is that we're seeing there more than open and liberty and freedom he's one of the most prominent not only political leaders but also political prisoners in venezuela he's been in jail for five years the past two years of house arrest and we've heard a little of him and now we're seeing him side by side one way though and that's very significant because you're saying that he was freed by military officials that supporters want to weigh in on. today's riots comes that that things have taken everyone by surprise as a big march was planned for tomorrow may day may the first is that likely still to go ahead. well it it's hard to say we are expecting that today will be a long thing it will be a day where we will see some violence we will see we are already seeing some people hurt we're hoping that we don't see any dead today but it is
a day that will be marked by some violent some turmoil and that could lead into. a nothing of civil liberties tomorrow so that might warp the protests for tomorrow but tomorrow also chappie stuff and opposition are expected to march so it'll be difficult to suspend those marches but one way they want to set up the may day started today and in terms of the response from the government compared to the that the strength the speed of today's response from from the from the government so what has happened before how does how do they compare that. well the government has been very successful in the past to respond to these fast acting these these quick. problems that arise and these uprisings but today has been different we have heard little from
the call of member we've heard. nothing at all from high military ranking officials and that that is. god that we can suspect that there can be some discord nation in the messages that they want to give now that could be interpreted in many ways it would be hard to take what is under the sleeve of the government we know that the element of surprise actually took them up in this kind of myself their psyche in that caracas for now thank you. and of course more on the developing situation in caracas throughout the evening here on the data a climate change is forcing more and more people to leave their homes because of flooding drought ime to extreme weather sub-saharan africa and large buying coastal
regions are especially at risk experts believe that millions of people will be displaced by climate change over the next half century annex report comes from a village in indonesia where parents teachers and children at primary school are already feeling the effects of rising sea levels. a simple ten minute ceremony ending a thirty year vein and breaking with japanese imperial tradition for the first time in more than two centuries. which means happy beach lies on the indian ocean due to rising seas and heavy rainfall the village is sinking into the sea. the flooding continues even now during dry season the local primary school is down and smells of rot parents say conditions are intolerable and more than half the children have been taken out of school.
teachers in primary grades. he attended this school himself and is determined to persevered. his classroom flooded for the first time in twenty thirteen. but. the conditions here are very very difficult for us we often have to send the children home when the classrooms flood the children sit with their legs in water. regular instruction has become impossible the children are falling behind but in the next five or six years rahmatullah believes the school will be submerged. it will be abandoned along with the village. what will it look like here three decades from now in the year two thousand and
fifty. but damn there will be the most extreme conditions of their forward with our seventeen thousand islands a lot of coast and that will be if not by the sea so life will not be the same as here there is a lot of illness that will replace the. growth of the whole world to be disturbed by horizontal strife. one against the other because fighting for food water may be erasure. very sad picture and twenty fifty. special climate envoy veto says that by mid century climate change will have forced forty million people to flee their homes in indonesia alone farmers who can no longer till their fields slum dwellers whose ten roof tots have sunk into the sea.
apologies for the technical articles of the start of the match reports japan's emperor akihito a formally steps down from the throne and a ceremony at tokyo's imperial palace is the first japanese emperor to abdicate in more two hundred years zelda sundowner he too well i assume the throne in a short ceremony and perhaps the political power but he is revered as a symbol of the country's tradition and history. a simple ten minute ceremony ending a thirty year vein and breaking with japanese imperial tradition for the first time in more than two centuries. against an unpretentious backdrop emperor akihito performed the main ritual at the imperial palace to hand over what's known as the chrysanthemum throne to his son. the ceremony so the emperor of relinquish an ancient sword and jewel sacred regalia that tradition dictates should be seen by no
one but the emperor. addressing those assembled in the palaces room of pine akihito paid tribute to his subjects. so. i am very thankful and happy as i have been able to fulfill my judaizers emperor with trust and respect for the japanese people for the last thirty years. prime minister shinzo i had warm words for the outgoing emperor reflecting on some of japan's recent challenges that included the two thousand and eleven tsunami and earthquake. and the empress were always there for the victims of disasters and gave them hope and courage for the future. people applied to for us. how can he too was granted permission to abdicate on grounds of age and declining health but his reign has left an indelible mark on japan's
tradition bound monarchy. after succeeding his father hirohito in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine how quito spent much of his early reign on diplomatic trips. especially to express his deeper morse over his country's wartime transgressions. akihito as abdication will make him the first japanese emperor to leave the throne without leading his country into war for the japanese people it's an emotional moment. but i think that what are you honest i don't think it's settled in that he's abdicated so there is a bit of sadness in me so you think even before he ascended the throne he was always thinking about the people he was an emperor that really cared for the people . so i think it's the people who should really be saying thank you to him. but
hearing his last words today in. really shows his personality and kindness so i'm happy to hear that. the eighty five year old remained emperor until the stroke of midnight local time on april thirtieth the throne now officially passes to his elder son crown prince not a veto. and the country ushers in the new imperial era of. beautiful harmony. and despite being reported dead and survey the engine more than once it looks as though the leader of the islamic state militant group is still alive and i asked propaganda video appears to show a baghdadi praising the easter sunday bombings in sri lanka and declaring that part of the group's revenge for losses in syria. if this is who islamic state
claims it is then it would be about daddy's first appearance in five years. in the video shot in an unknown location he acknowledges the group's recent defeat in its last syrian stronghold of the goose. he also refers to other eye as losses in libya and in iraq but he tries to justify the defeats by saying yes doesn't have to win it just has to continue carrying all jihad and he urges his followers to continue carrying out revenge attacks around the world. he goes on to praise the deadly bombings in sri lanka on easter sunday which killed two hundred fifty people saying they were ordered in revenge for their brothers in bugaboos. despite his threats analysts say the purpose of this video is to show he is still in charge and at large and has managed to evade chemistry.
the video was also a topic during iraqi prime minister's visit with chancellor merkel one would assume he knows more but here in berlin he kept a low profile not just there was some intelligence about the whereabouts of but from the video it is clear that the location is very simple they were isolated and kept simple even his clothing provides information about his location. we will have to concern ourselves for some time with the question of how i ask can be defeated and in my view this video supports that this is the correct assessment i talked. about daddy remains the world's most wanted man the u.s. has a twenty five million dollars bounty on his head and says it will continue to hunt him down until he is found. let's get more on this from dimebag
from the german institute for international and security affairs welcome to the. if this video offended this i think so it looks like a daddy it sounds like but daddy and the video is clearly an i.a.s. video it has an i.a.s. logo it has the logo of the media production company of i.a.s. . perhaps most importantly the old one the one that was used until the islamic state was founded in two thousand and fourteen so i clearly believe that this is by daddy and that this is an official i asked video so if the last time we saw him on video was our it was two thousand and fourteen so why is he popped up now well i think because i was under pressure yes has founded a state and as it has lost the state in iraq and syria it has there are even some
yes the 1st 10 democratic presidential hopefuls have clashed in a televised debate there from a wider field of contenders with some of the more well known names debating later today elizabeth warren cemented her status as a front runner in the 1st round. watching g.w. news up next our documentary film impossible piece examines the treaty of 1st sign time terry mark thanks want. to wish he'd have to get through the plane to sneak a break without a football thanks again. to the women's vote and. excitement the same emotion and not so. explains the 19 women to. the close of the results yet on t w.
for 4 years from $914.00 to 1918 and europe seemed on course to destroy itself. on august the 4th 1914 germany invaded belgium. most of the world's major powers was soon drawn into the conflict. by the time the war ended almost 40 nations in europe africa the middle east and east asia were involved. the so-called rich war was fought with unprecedented destructive power a total of more than $16000000.00 people were killed. the
allied powers including the british empire france the united states belgium italy and serbia had defeated the central powers the german empire austria hungary and the ottoman empire. when the armistice was announced in 1918 people in the allied countries took to the streets to celebrate. the french writer seymour now described the scene in paris. when the crowd young factory workers and fashionably dressed ladies hugged and kissed each other. to greet him piles of europe were falling apart i. the
wars that have killed millions prompted new demands for independence. in april 916 irish republicans in dublin launched an insurrection against british rule. but the uprising was poorly organized and was put down quickly by british troops once again the union jack flew over the irish capital. the australian garion empire a truly multinational stage had ceased to exist by early november 1918. the empire is larger ethnic minorities including czechs slovaks croats and slovenes demanded independence and hopes that america would help them achieve it. u.s. president woodrow wilson sought to create
a jury of peace as part of this effort wilson announced that from now on the peoples of europe should be governed only by their own consent he described self-determination as an imperative principle of action. empires collapse. i people rose up in revolt i. x monarchs fled the last austrian emperor charles the 1st step down from the hapsburg throne he and his wife tito were exiled to madeira in 1921. in 1922 turkey's new parliament expelled the last autumn and sultan messmate the 6 several new states would emerge from the ruins of his empire . but some monarchs were celebrated as here it was. during the war belgium's king albert of the 1st had fought
alongside his troops his wife elizabeth served at the front as a nurse i. germany's occupation of belgium ended with the armistice that was declared on november the elevons 918 i. belgians honored canadian troops who had played a major role in the last great offensive of the war known as the 100 days in that operation canadian unit suffered more than 45000 casualties. in the flanders region of northern belgium scottish troops seized a german supply train filled with hand grenades. as german forces retreated from northern france they destroyed everything that lay
in their path. after the armistice life in europe slowly began to return to normal. the end of the fighting was announced on the morning of november the 11th the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. the armistice remain. in force as negotiations on a final peace treaty got underway the talks would be difficult not least because hatred continued to smolder throughout europe. french writer on summed up the situation. i fear that we are hardly more prepared for peace than we were for war the most critical phase begins now fortunately we won the war.
how did germany react to the armistice and the peace talks. the germans were ordered to evacuate the territory they had occupied in belgium and france including the regions of a sas in german troops pulled back behind the rhine river. german troops returning home after the war found that society had been severely disrupted . the. emperor vilhelm the 2nd stepped down as german emperor and king of prussia on november the 9th 1918 as required by the armistice agreement he spent the rest of his life in exile in the netherlands. many germans saw the abdication as a humiliation. in
germany troops were often welcomed home by large crowds many germans didn't believe they had lost the war on the battlefield i put that they'd been stabbed in the back by politicians. who later at all fittler would use that train to advance his own political agenda. on november the millions 918 a german republic was declared by philip shadowman a member of the new cabinet. that. was the this. was. the marxist agitator who's a look some borg wrote bush was society mimics order peace and the rule of law but it is wading in its own blood filthy and a sonnet the russian revolution was the honorable salvation of international
socialism. russia november 19th 17 the bolsheviks led by vladimir in each lenin seized power the country to send it into a bloody civil war between communist and anti communist forces. british french and us troops were sent to various parts of the country to fight the bolsheviks captured allied soldiers were shown in propaganda films. lenin denounced the foreign intervention. that. would. light. up like that. i the russian revolution divided your own
until later the entire world. i in december 1918 woodrow wilson became the 1st sitting u.s. president to visit europe his delegation included franklin delano roosevelt assistant navy secretary and future president. wilson attended a series of preliminary negotiations ahead of the paris peace talks. i will cement his wife edith arrived in the french capital on december 14th the city gave them a tumultuous welcome i
mean. we'll build a prosperous world in which all nations will enjoy the freedom for which france america england and italy have paid such a high price i in january $918.00 wilson presented a 14 point plan for postwar peace in parts it proposed self-determination for ethnic minorities and the creation of a league of nations to guarantees of political independence and territorial integrity of all states. encouraged wilson met frequently with the french prime minister. george klim also had been appointed prime minister and minister of war in november 917 and called for a complete victory over germany and the return of a sus and logan 2 fronts. clear also also demanded that germany pay huge
reparations for the damage it had caused during the wall. but the british and u.s. delegations were concerned that reparations would ruin the defeated powers financially and could lead to domestic tensions and even civil war as in russia. president wilson spent the last 5 days of 1918 in britain and on january the 1st travelled to easily for talks with king victor emmanuel and the prime minister. wilson also began preparing for the international peace conference due to open on january the 19th. he continued to push for the approval of his 14 point program including the right of self-determination for minority people yes i was warmly
received. by the italians but that had more to do with america's participation in the war than it did with his peace plan. italian nationalists fear that wilson self-determination proposal could lead to territorial losses one of their more prominent spokesman was a journalist benito mussolini the future italian dictator called wilson a bandit of international pluralism i. the paris peace conference was intended in part to conclude peace treaties with the defeated states set up a shared tool of reparations payments to be made by germany and draft international borders that accurately reflected ethnic bond ribs. a total of $27.00 states took part in the conference but the negotiations were
dominated by the big 4 allied powers. president wilson french prime minister also british prime minister david lloyd george. and the talian prime minister vittorio emanuele orlando. for the next several months the participants negotiated the terms of peace treaties with the defeated powers the german delegation was not allowed to take part in the discussions. they hoped that the final treaty would be based on wilson's 14 points and would not involve any loss of territory. the germans were deeply concerned that clemenceau would take a hard line and weaken the new german republic so as to eliminate its ability to
threaten from us i. i. at the end of 6 months of discussions the various delegations arrived at the palace of versailles to sign the main peace treaty. the ceremony took place on june the 28th 1919 the date was no coincidence. exactly 5 years before on june the 281914 the heir to the australian garion throne archduke franz ferdinand had been assassinated in sarajevo his murder had plunged europe into war. the choice of that side was also symbolic it was here that the new german empire was proclaimed in 871 following france's defeat in the franco-prussian war.
klim also had 4 severely wounded french soldiers posted at the entrance to the main hall so that the german delegation would see them when they arrived. the germans took their places at 3 in the afternoon and they had me a minute to read and sign the treaty. the conditions imposed by the allies were harsh germany's army was cut to 100000 men tanks submarines and military aircraft were banned the size of the navy was sharply reduced germany was also ordered to hand over its former colonies and to pay reparations the final amount was later set at $269000000000.00 goldmark's. that treaty and its alleged injustices were used by at all for hitler to promote
his nationalist agenda this footage shows hitler as a right wing demonstration in 1919. at that time he was working as an informer for the german military many germans considered the versailles treaty unfair and hitler speeches played to their worst fears. their side was a disgrace this dictated piece is plundering our people it's outrageous france our mortal enemy has its hands on our throats. hitler drove home the point that many germans were now living in poverty. let the shaman hatred of 60000000 germans turn into a sea of flames. the treaty require german soldiers. to hand over their weapons in return they received financial compensation.
supervised the destruction of the german aircraft and tanks. many senior german officers felt humiliated by all this the military began training what was left of its army into an elite force that would one day perhaps be able to take its revenge on france and. the new weimar government was constantly under threat by right wingers and militarist austrian born not only hitler soon emerged as one of their most prominent spokesman. as early as 1919 german friday cause started painting swastikas on their helmets. officer and angst you know wrote this war is not the end of violence it's the beginning. war veteran feedly feel
him hundreds. when we heard that the war was over we just left we were the war the flame of war continue to burn in us. a town full of about 350000 black troops served on the western front one of the most famous afro-american units was the 369-0048 tree regiment known as the harlem hell fighters. civil rights activist marcus garvey demanded racial equality. we believe that blacks should have the same rights and privileges as other people. but president wilson favored a policy. he of racial segregation at the same time that he was promoting the right
of european peoples to self-determination i will some campaigned across america on behalf of the peace treaty and the league of nations. the treaty would have to be ratified by the u.s. senate but wilson could not put together the necessary 2 thirds vote. as a majority party the republicans were opposed to it mainly because the league of nations would limit the senate's power to declare war. public opinion on the treaty was mixed with most of the opposition coming from republicans ethnic germans and irish catholic democrats. wilson tried to win them over. if we were ject beleaguered nations we will break the world's heart. the senate by failing to ratify the versailles treaty shattered
wilson's dream of u.s. participation in the league of nations i. would be held its 1st session in paris in january $920.00 and later that year moved its headquarters to geneva. the organizations main goal was to preserve world peace but could it do so if the united states was not a member of. several posts that cya agreements changed the map of europe and the middle east. and $919.00 treaty formally dissolved the ostrow hungary an empath and created an independent state of austria on 1920 treaty set up the independent state of hungary to new states appeared on the map czechoslovakia and a nation that would later be known as you. new borders paid little attention to
ethnic distribution germans were now living in poland and czechoslovakia and carians in remaining year and sabse croats and slovenes in yugoslavia these ethnic groups have lived together more or less peacefully in the australian garion empire . the ottoman empire had been home to a diverse mix of ethnic and religious groups including out of. the treaty of 7 signed in 1920 outlines the breakup of the empire and the creation of a new state that would mainly include ethnic turnips. from autumn and territory in the middle east would be divided between france and britain france was given a league of nations mandate to govern lebanon and syria. a similar mandate for palestine trans-jordan and iraq was awarded to britain. there
were huge reserves of petroleum in iraq and they would now be controlled mostly by britain. the treaty also provided for enough tone i'm a scottish region in the new turkish state. jewish communities have existed in palestine for centuries. beginning in 1920 large numbers of jews most of them from europe began immigrating to the region . zionist organizations demanded that a national home for jewish people should be created in palestine. during the war britain had said that any new jewish state should not disrupt existing arab communities britain made these and other promises to win arab support against the ottomans. the british officer t.e.
lawrence better known as lawrence of arabia served as a liaison between the british and arab forces. in november 921 the jewish agency for palestine was created to oversee jewish interests in the region. zionist leader and future israeli president high in vitamin noted at the time palestine will be as jewish as angle and is english and america is america. the seeds of the conflicts between palestinian jews and arabs had been so. in 1920 tensions were running high in constantinople now known as istanbul. immediately after the armistice allied troops occupied the city by this time a nationalist movement was already taking shape. the movement was led by general mostafa. who had led alterman forces to victory in the
campaign. the nationalists were opposed to the partition of the country as outlined in the treaty of 7. if we accept the allies demands there will be no end to their greed. came our organized a new army its primary goal was to drive out greek troops that had occupied the coastal city of smyrna in may 919 and then taken over much of western turkey. to bomb us forces launched a counterattack in all this 922. they pushed the troops all the way back to the aegean coast. on september the 9th 1922 commands troops reoccupied the city of smyrna.
4 days later a fire broke out in the city's armenian district and spread quickly at least 10000 people are said to have died. evidence indicates that the blaze was started by turkish troops kamar later denied any responsibility. tens of thousands of ethnic armenians and greeks fled to the docks to escape the flames at least 150000 were evacuated by british and american ships. meanwhile officials of the league of nations were actively working to repatriate prisoners of war and to improve living conditions for wall refugees. one of these diplomats was norwegian explorer a humanitarian and future nobel laureate future of finance and in 1921 months and was appointed the league's high commissioner for refugees. in
1922 he began issuing refugee travel documents that came to be known as nuns and passports. an estimated 450000 of these documents were issued to people who could not obtain passports from their governments the recipients included russian french artist marc shall die and russian composer 7 rachmaninoff and igor stravinsky. many of the refugees wanted to emigrate to the us and made their way to the french quarter shell bored to book passage on ships. many of them were housed at the newly constructed or tele. the facility could accommodate and process 2000 refugees at a time they were given a thorough medical examination and disinfected if necessary the refugees were housed in the hotels. dormitories until they were cleared to leave. at this time
the united states still welcomes immigrants all the restrictions would be imposed in $924.00. the statue of liberty served as a beacon for many of them a poem written by emma lazarus is inscribed on a plaque inside the statue's pedestal. give me your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. in montreal a rally was organized to call attention to the plight of ukrainian jews famine and anti semitic attacks were widespread in ukraine. an estimated 100000 jews were killed in ukraine joining the russian civil war mostly by anti communist forces the war would continue until 923.
the bolshevik red army defeated a coalition of opposition forces known as the white army soviet rule was now imposed across the country 7. the union of soviet socialist republics was officially declared on december 22nd 1922 the new states now covered nearly one 6th of the us land surface. there was a major famine from 1921 to 221 major cause feel thora he seized commodities from peasants to feed the cities and the military. an estimated 5000000 people died in the famine. food supplies deleted by europe of the united states soon started arriving. will shine for also an american relief worker describes the situation in one region. people heat waves meckstroth ground balls tree bark and clay they also eat meat from horses dogs cats
and rats and they eat straw. there or may see it and dozens die every day. the stench is appalling. by the end of the civil war an estimated 1500000 russians had left the country but many of them settled in france often in paris only. the emigres were concerned about the spread of soviet influence throughout the world. the economic and social dislocation was caused by world war one prompted many people to join communist parties they believed
communism would bring about equality for all. the. support for the communists grew in london berlin new york midland and rome. one of the founders of the italian communist party until new gramsci travel to moscow in 1921 to study the soviet system. one lives for the party. in italy many anti communist veterans joined a movement led by war hero gabrielli done once you're. done once you opposed the treaty of versailles because it ordered italy to hand over territory to the new yugoslav state including domination and the city of fuming now called week out.
our victory has been ruined. douglas you sought to make italy a flow straight european power. italy your time has come wonderful years lie ahead i hear the thunder of eagles tearing through the night. in september 1919 dugongs years troops occupied few. i i. was the italian government kept trying to drive down out of the city and he finally left in december 1920. 1 she wrote that europe was in a state of transition. the old world is dying and the new world has not yet been born in times like these gruesome phenomena appear.
loose phenomena included benito mussolini his wife left noted that mussolini had a certain natural magnetism. his eyes cost a spell over you his gaze was wanting his pupils flushed he knew that his eyes exerted power on others. in the years before the war mostly he had been a socialist and worked as a journalist in 1914 he became a fervent nationalist. in midland in 1900 he founded a fascist combat squad which consisted of about 200 men. mostly copied much from company and they don't see oh yeah as his supporters wore black shirts. he used the ancient roman salute. carried jagger's and popularized the slogan annoyed with us. by 922 mostly news organization had grown to include 300000 men.
his populist slogans helped him to bring together veterans disabled veterans the unemployed and members of the lower and middle classes alike. miscellanies blackshirts often engaged leftists in street battles their slogan was mini friedel i didn't care. mostly he promised to restore law and order he enforced his policies by arming his supporters with clubs. muscling he also promised to put a stop to labor strikes. that helped win the support of
industrialists including giovanni oniony founder of the fia total movil company. the political situation in italy was changing quickly. on october the 28922 about 30000 fascist militiamen gathered in rome to demand the resignation of the prime minister speaking known as the so-called march on rome. mostly nereid the next day from his headquarters in milan last i. he wore a suit and tie instead of his usual fashion. uniform. on
october the 29th king victor emmanuel appointed mussolini prime minister. as the head of government mussolini chose a policy of cooperation with the catholic church and pursued his aim of transforming italy into a challenge tarion state. in germany militarist and nationalist factions united around general eerie shootin dogs who had been the de facto 2nd in command of german forces during the war. newton doff would later support at all fitna. hitler said. our people are miserable we must act now so that they do not join the communists.
in january 923 french and belgian troops occupied the rule region because germany had fallen behind in its war reparations payments. those payments contributed to an economic crisis this included runaway inflation the german government kept printing more and more money. much one point a loaf of bread cost 460000000000 marks. 13 year old amanda described the situation. when our father brings home his daily pay we spend it right away because the money will soon be worthless. in the rule region tensions increased between the local residents and the occupation troops. these pictures show
a french officer assaulting germans who failed to remove their hats during a funeral procession. on november the 9th 1923 hits law and his cohorts staged a coup attempt in munich. the uprising was quickly put down by police and soldiers . hitler was arrested. stefan side wrote at the time. in 1023 the swastikas disappeared and the brownshirts and ad off hitler were forgotten. in his rather comfortable prison cell hitler set about writing his political manifesto to be called mine comes my struggle this work outlines hitler's political and social ideology and maps out his plans for germany.
in spain general me again primo daily vera overthrew the parliamentary government in september 1923 and set up a military dictatorship. my young and talented army officer francisco franco rose steadily through the ranks during the early years of primo to the various regime. franco was now about to embark on a successful career with the spanish foreign legion in morocco. in 1921 franco had been promoted to deputy commander of the legion of spain controlled a strip of land in northern morocco that included the brief mountains the rest of morocco was a french protectorate during world war one local residents. were forced to work in the mines that provided role materials for french armaments factories.
in september 1921 the people of the reef region declared their independence from spain past the uprising was led by mohammed abdul karim who managed to unite the various berber tribes. on july the 21st the insurgents inflicted a decisive defeat on spanish troops at the battle of i'm while. the rebels suffered 800 casualties out of a force of about 3000 experts differ on the number of spanish troops that were killed or wounded but the losses was human. in september 925 french and spanish supported by warships landed on the northern moroccan
coast pushed inland and defeated the insurgents. atrocities were committed by both sides. this moroccan soldier beheaded his brother who had joined the rebels. a number of spanish soldiers were executed by the insurgents after they had surrendered and. the french and spanish launched air attacks against rebel positions. spain used mustard gas a chemical weapon against the insurgency. to combat teams of naval air and ground forces finally brought an end to the fighting. in may $926.00 up to korean surrendered to the french news reels of this event was
shown in french cinema. is elderly father and his family who seek the protection of the victors. historians define home a significance of the brief war some see it as the last of the colonial conflicts others believe it set the stage for future walls of d. colonizing. the years of mediately following world war one while mobbed by major social and political dislocation. many people abandon religion and turn to political engagement to try to make some sense of life. by the mid 1920 s. fascist movements were growing throughout europe. by the late 1920 s. economic crises threaten to spin out of control and plunge the world once again into
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