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this is quite the story. even though all of us here know it, we've talked about it, but if you're a juror sitting there, you heard about sex and a cover up and back room deals and payoffs and now david pecker, the guy at the helm of the national enquirer, somebody who had done this on a number of occasions, who was central to the case that the prosecution is making talk about what is likely the importance of what we're hearing right now on the stand in that manhattan courtroom. >> it sets the stage and the prosecutor in the opening statement basically started off with that trump tower meeting. where michael cohen and trump and david pecker had this agreement where david pecker would be the eyes and ears of the campaign and look out for those negative stories. give cohen a heads up and try to suppress it. so it's important he is the lead off witness because it sets the
just any investigators, not just investigators who happen to investigate while trump was president, not investigators who may have had one of the pieces of paper that cross their desk into russia, durham's mandate was to investigate the investigators who investigated interference by russia in the 2016 election. and what a lot of people talk about when they revisit the mueller report is the trump figures that were charged that pleaded, mueller also indicted a whole lot of russians. >> yeah, that's true. >> durham was the man in charge of the investigation and he doesn't know basic facts? he either misstates or erroneously recounts the conclusions of the mueller report. what was that? >> the sense i got from watching that exchange is that durham didn't want to get led down a path where he was criticizing the political response to the leaks of those e-mails by donald trump. he was trying to do what robert mueller tried to do in his own
exchange? and his responses are in direct contradiction to the mueller report. >> he was really trying to down-play the significance of the president's son, being offered dirt on hillary clinton something represented of don junior as part of the russian government's effort to try and help the trump campaign, taking that information to a secret meeting he wanted to down-play it. he wanted to suggest this happens all the time. and in that answer and so many others what it really betrayed is what exactly he accused the fbi of, and that is confirmation bias. you could really see his bias into thinking what the trump campaign did was fine or he wasn't going to call it collusion even though there is no other name for what the trump campaign tried to do. but he clearly didn't want to provide any answer that he thought belittling of the former president and really in doing so
you did produce a 300-page report, though, and that's given my republican counter parts plenty of material to spin. >> the democrats on the house judiciary committee also drilled down on what durham does not mention in his report, namely the undocumented and frankly unavoidable ties everyone knows existed between the 2016 campaign and russia. >> did anything in your report prove false that russians met with trump's family during the campaign at trump tower after an offer of dirt on hillary clinton? anything prove that meeting didn't happen? >> i don't have any evidence that that did not happen. >> anything to prove false in the 2016 campaign donald trump tried and concealed from the public a real estate deal he was seeking in moscow? >> i don't know anything about that. there's nothing in the report about it. it's not something we investigated. >> did you prove -- did donald trump not say at a press conference, russia, if you're
their participation in the 2016 election, it was bizarre to see a current employee of merrick garland's justice department say nothing. i mean there wasn't even a note of it would be very serious for a hostile foreign power to intervene. i mean how -- how daunting is that ahead of another presidential election that republicans and john durham whatever party he's in these days, are all interested in fogging up the lens around russia's role in meddling in an election? >> i mean it is really alarming because, of course, there's no question that russia may try to do exactly this again. that is decide donald trump would be really good for them and they're going to intervene. and now with a.i. they have more powerful tools to be able to do that. but it is shocking. some very basic questions we asked him about the wrongfulness trying to get dirt from a hostile foreign power in that trump tower meeting, heole really shied away from giving
its relevant to their investigation? >> i did. as part of the investigations, i certainly disclosed in the meetings that very -- >> not immigration will testimony to the house. we went through. what you didn't mention anything about august 2016 meeting in trump tower. they specifically asked you what context you had, and you didn't answer. >> i don't believe i was asked that question. >> you were asked whether any -- form of communications or contact with the campaign. he said about writing papers, putting up the old signs, no. that's what you said. i've got the transcript of the conversation here. >> you're. i might have been, i think i was at trump headquarters for the hurricane headquarters -- >> august 3rd, 2016. you, and israeli do, that channel to the emiratis and saudis, donald junior. david miller. >> we were there to talk about iran policy. >> there to talk about iran policy? don't you have to disclose to the house intelligence committee go under oath? >> i didn't. >> you didn't. we just went through the testimony, there's no mention of the trump tower meeting on august 2016. >> i don't know if they got the transcript wrong.
collusion hoax with a special focus on the new york "toilet paper" times and for good reason, they were wrong on nearly every single thing they reported. they promoted the alpha bank server hoax and legitimized christopher steel and his dirty hillary clinton bought and paid for russian dossier and discredited the nunes memo that was proven to be true and pushed the story of the trump tower meeting between donald trump jr. and a russian lawyer which wound up being a complete flop. they made countless other errors all while heavily relying on their anonymous sources. they got a pulitzer prize for all the lies they told. any way, here with reaction, joe concha and former house intel committee chairman devin nunes. devin, 18 months, an exhaustive study, the mueller report, pulitzers, quote "new york times" legitimizes christopher steel. isn't that the same christopher steel we now know, devin, was offered $1 million
hoax with a very special focus on the new york toilet paper. times and with good reason. they were wrong on nearly every single thing that they reported. they promoted the alpha bank server hoax. they legitimized christopher steele and his dirty hillary clinton bought and paid for russian dossier. they discredited the new nest memo that was proven to be true. they pushed the story of the trump tower meeting between donald trump jr. and a russian lawyer, which wound up being a complete flop. they made countless other errors, all while heavily relying on their anonymous sources. by the way, they got a pulitzer prize for all the lies that they told. anyway, here with reaction, fox news contributor joe concha and former house intel committee chairman devin nunes. stevin, 18 , months, an exhaustive study, the mueller report, pulitzers, quote, the new york times legitimized christopher steele. isn't that the same christopher steele, devon, that we now know
his responding to media interest in the trump tower meeting and concerning witnesses which he appeared to praise or condemn based again they were fighting the charges against the investigation. they more directly implicate the concerns of the statute. if the president were to perjure himself, tamper with testimony or corrupt evidence, we do not believe that any of these actions described in the report would meet such a standard. none of these instances the president sought to conceal criminal conduct, nor is there to provide investigations to the april doubt. i believe don mcgahn was snuck in and out of the dock, and mcgahn spent 30 hours testifying, donald trump fired him. i don't know if they had access to the reports well before the rest of us did, but what are they talking about, pete strzok?