disclosures overall. >> absolutely not. the point that you make, mehdi as well, this is not a aberration, this is a pattern. this is at least the fifth tim since 2011 that he has bee found to be in ethical violation, potentially i violation of the law and in 2011, he does explain i away that he said he misunderstood the form and sure, that happens, bu these are forums that have bee filled up by people for decade prior, and decades since and not only was he just abl to explain it away, he has bee able to keep his sea irrespective of this pattern if it is this easy to keep scamming the american people during a lifetime appointmen in a seat that has to be confirmed by the full senate, don't understand how we ar supposed to continue to have trust in this iteration of the court, or the institutio itself because this isn't just abou justice thomas's mild -- this is about being able to go this long and engage in this
>> absolutely not. the point that you made, mary, may this is not an aberration. this is the pattern, this is a least the fifth time since 201 that he has been found to be i ethical violation, potentially in violation of the law. and in 2011, he does explain i away that he misunderstood the form sure, that happens, but thes are forums that have bee filled up by people for decade prior, and decades since not only will see just able to explain it away, he's been abl to keep his seat irrespectiv of this pattern. if it is this easy to keep scamming the american people during a lifetime appointmen in a seat that has to be confirmed by the full senate, don't understand how we ar supposed to continue to have trust in this iteration of the court, or the institutio itself because this isn't just abou justice thomas's malfeasance this is about being able to go this long and engage in this
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of the things i think one of the things that need to be looked at is the extent to which his supervisors um, we're watching what? what he was doing, but there are limits to that. um even people work in the intelligence community or entitled to some privacy. and so if you think that being more invasive about what the intelligence community employees whether military civilian are doing and then you want to investigate them more well, you need to think about the morale impacts on them 99.9% and more of the intelligence community members are loyal, patriotic. ah citizens wouldn't dream of doing what's happened here. but the problem is you have 11 aberration among the tens of thousands of people who work in intelligence. uh then then you have an issue and the and the
feel about the fact that the accountability for donald trum may have begun you talk about something calle the dangerous fantasy of trump's indictment tell me what you mean by that. >> i think it stems from m suspicion -- which i've harbored for a long time - that so much focus on donald trump as an individual works actually, to cast him as a aberration rather than as an emblem of his party, and where his party was moving before he became president, and where it continues to move. you know, you noted that ant democratic wave that trump unleashed -- i would argue that that wave was being unleashed long before, it listening to th conversation you just had with jasmine crockett and - i would argue a lot of the political media, looked in other directions, for years, proceeding down trump' candidacy and presidency, we know that he won thanks to the electoral college, a institution that was set up to permit minorities of voters to
accountability for donald trum may have begun you talk about something calle the dangerous fantasy of trump's indictment tell me what you mean by that. >> i think it stems from m suspicion -- which i've harbored for a long time - that so much focus on donald trump as an individual works actually, to cast him as a aberration rather than as an emblem of his party, and where his party was moving before he became president, and where it continues to move. you know, you noted that ant democratic wave that trump unleashed -- i would argue that that wave was being unleashed long before, it listening to th conversation you just had with jasmine crockett and - i would argue a lot of the political media, looked in other directions, for years, proceeding down trump' candidacy and presidency, we know that he won thanks to the electoral college, a institution that was set up to permit minorities of voters to have power - the federalist society was already created -- a pipeline for the supreme court. mitch mcconnell had alread sold on the seat from th
have time to look at the plans on my computer. i go to the scene and the sound of gunfire as quickly as i can. >> bill: what does it tell you the f.b.i. was on the scene so quickly? does it tell you much? >> i think a lot of times in any of these situations we'll have all partners, state, local, federal agencies there to work together as a team. i know in situations i've been in like this, you have the bureau and the atf and provide resources to dive into this investigation and get the citizens answers as quickly as possible. >> dana: it seems the police did act very swiftly here and time is of the essence on any of these. the training seems to be excellent. we had the opposite in uvalde and that seems to have been an aberration. the training here to your mind excellent? >> 100%.
more division, and it also makes it easier for trump to get the gop nomination. it makes it harder for those in republican leadership. to break away from trump and offer an alternative. that's clearly a problem for the country. we've had a couple of years where outside the united states people looking in have said oh, well, maybe that was an aberration. maybe now we have the u. s governance sort of as usual. what we're seeing is this is very deep. it's very lasting . it's very structural. 2024 election is set up to be easily as problematic for the united states and for its position abroad as 2020 was, and i think that's a really it does seem as though you know this. this makes it easier for trump to get nominated. does it make it easier for him to get elected? i don't think i remember 2016 trump got a lot of free media time, in part because i think as partisan enemies thought, let's make him the republican nominee. he's the easiest to beat. this country has consistently underestimated his political
grand jury. today the arraignment. it looks like the trial. you would have better odds, jesse, of winning the lottery twice for that to happen in a random system. there's a reason for that usually the motions that are directed pre-trial to an indictment, relate to things that happened in the grand jury process. so now we are going to expect this judge and there is no disrespect to this judge but this judge to rule on his own rulings and this is just a very unusual aberration and it just demonstrates that we're setting a very dangerous precedent. >> jesse: so fat alvin judge shopping got a ringer is what i'm hearing. thank you very much. >> thank you, jesse. >> jesse: counselor. >> thank you. >> jesse: president trump is moments away from giving his comeback remarks so let's turn it over to his daughter lara trump with what we should expect. lara, your thoughts today on your father-in-law. >> well, look, jesse. as a member of my family, obviously you don't like to see anyone treated this way. but i think more so as an american, it was a really sad