patriots, questioning whether we should be there, the hawk people, the patriot. i wonder, you know, when we examine the gulf between what s happening overseas and here, you mentioned lyndon johnson did not call upon the national reserve and the guard and in doing so i believe you said took tore the country from the heart of the military and the military from the heart of the country. governor, we ve talked about this before, the gulf between those fighting the war and those at home. it s interesting. one of the interesting part of the book, talked about the abrams doctrine, after lbj, b a abrams recommended we never go to war without using the national reserves because we wanted neighborhood kids to be in in pennsylvania, many guardsmen had been on four tours and yet that doesn t seem to sense in the general population