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And i want to ask mary that too. >> i have a basic distrust of the government, i think a healthy skepticism of our government is part of the american way, and yes, im particularly mistrustful of this administration for the reasons that mary gave. on the other hand, we have, as dan says, no evidence that the nsa has been corrupted in the way the irs was. >> mary, the specific abuses at the irs bother me a lot more than this. because you actually there have cases where the government did specifica...

We have snow talking. >> do you buy this? not anyone in the country who can decode, figure out what information he took? no one. i feel like someone is smarter than this snowden guy. >> any time you type something in your computer they have a record of it, phone call, youre a suspect but they have no idea what their employees are doing. >> snowden has managed by going around certain fire walls, managed to go around the laws keeping track of all of this. he knew what was there. he was able to gat...

It is this president? or is it the programs themselves? i want to ask mary that, too. >> well, i -- i mean, i have a basic distrust of the government. i think a healthy skepticism of the government is part of the american way. yes, im particularly mistrustful of this administration for the reasons that mary gave. on the other hand, we have, as dan says, no evidence that the nsa has been corrupted in the way the irs was. >> the specific abuses of the irs bother me a lot more than this because you...

Cetera. you need confirmation that could have been achieved with the u.n. council meeting. when samantha power didnt show up, she could have pressed the security council to make the u.n. inspectors that are already on the ground there. theyre there to investigate past claims of gas use and abuses and all of that. and all of those past claims. what they could have done, her presence there, she could have forced them or pushed them, done something so that they would have been able to investigate t...

Cetera. you need confirmation that could have been achieved with the u.n. council meeting. when samantha power didnt show up, she could have pressed the security council to make the u.n. inspectors that are already on the ground there. theyre there to investigate past claims of gas use and abuses and all of that. and all of those past claims. what they could have done, her presence there, she could have forced them or pushed them, done something so that they would have been able to investigate t...

Warrant. the point here is this program is now in the wrong hands and so many people are worried about abuses. >> look, again, dont ask me to defend the president and youve laid out a good bill of particulars for holder and the president. these programs are overseen by the national security agency. my experience was that they were exceptionally honorable, decent people who were trying to protect america, and i have confidence in general alexander and the people at the nsa. i have no confidence i...

Warrant. the point here is this program is now in the wrong hands and so many people are worried about abuses. >> look, again, dont ask me to defend the president and youve laid out a good bill of particulars for holder and the president. these programs are overseen by the national security agency. my experience was that they were exceptionally honorable, decent people who were trying to protect america, and i have confidence in general alexander and the people at the nsa. i have no confidence i...

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The minute you flip the cards, show the program, show the cards, the program is brought to its knees. >> youre doing the same thing. as long as it involves security, youre okay with it. >> i didnt say that. i am saying i have strong interest in national security and in thoroughly and vigilantly investigating terrorism, domestic and abroad, searching for foreign intelligence. i know the constitution better than anybody at this table, let me tell you. >> that is true. >> so i dont have a problem. ...