Trying to be the father not only of the nation but of individuals and as the father he had not been able to be all those years and he leans into me and says that of course you have to be at your sons graduation and you can interview me anytime, which was true. Anytime i needed to interview him, i was able to and i was there when president clinton went to south africa and that was a time when he was having some personal issues around his actual behavior and Nelson Mandela was very he was advising him in a very positive way and did it very publicly. At the same time, and i think that sean will probably agree with this. And i think that this may be one of the values with the things that we try to keep alive and embrace more than even his name. And his values sometimes conflicted with u. S. Policies. Even when his good friend bill clinton was standing next to him. Because he was insisting still on being friends with fidel castro. And i didnt say that on television, that i . [laughter] and