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On the debt ceiling because -- it is congress holding itself hostage on this. keeps coming back. >> the old -- blazing saddles. >> thats right. find something they can take, that -- maybe -- you know, even democrats can claim as a win also. lets look for a long-term fix my idea would be lets face chained cpi. it is absurd. the president supports this. in exchange for permanent lifting of the debt ceiling. >> i want to ask you this was something in the op-ed today -- my apologies for missing who ...