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Then when the russians had what we expected were recordings that would prove that it did, thats the kind of thing you can hang over someones head. and no administration should want their national security adviser to be in a position where he or she is compromised with the russians. >> because what they can do with that lever and is get him theoretically to hand over intelligence they shouldnt have, the names of spies we have in moscow working for u.s. intelligence. they could then take out and k...

National security adviser in a position where he never wants to get crosswise with the russians. >> so he inclines himself toward the russian point of view as a matter of course rather than an individual transactional thing. >> right. >> reason this has resonance, i have things to ask you. i would be remiss if i didnt mention the political environment were in this week in which i think a lot of people in the country have been shaken by the presidents interactions with president putin in helsinki...

I think basically, and its kind of pleasing to watch, they have been induced, cohen has been induced to overplay his hand, this sort of raw bullying tactics that normally put an end to things in their new york world wont work here. >> yeah. >> and the real risk theyre in now -- this is different from mueller. and we can talk about the crosscutting with mueller. but theyre now in individual proceedings where an individual judge, they can be maneuvered to either lie or not. remember what happened ...

Been induced, cohen has been induced to overplay his hand, this sort of raw bullying tactics that normally put an end to things in their new york world wont work here. >> yeah. >> and the real risk theyre in now -- this is different from mueller. and we can talk about the crosscutting with mueller. but theyre now in individual proceedings where an individual judge, they can be maneuvered to either lie or not. remember what happened to bill clinton down in arkansas when he lied in front of susan ...

Want to get ahead of the president, they dont want to get crosswise with the nra, so theyre being quiet and seeing where the debate plays out, and well see what they ultimately decide to do, but we know theyll not make any key decisions this week in washington. before we go to break, one victim of a shooting who spent two weeks in the hospital recovering from rher wounds. today she spoke and said its the students in parkland that have turned this into such a different national conversation. >>...

Him? probably. but was he influential on this president? absolutely. there were times the president would send a tweet, give a statement, you could tell it was from steve bannon, you could feel it, the same way it was from jared kushner, but without trump, steve bannon is learning that his influence fades quickly, and this could be really, this is more perilous to him than the president. the president will still have his base. >> its a mistake to say the president has no principles or policies. ...

Also joining us is cnn senior political analyst david gergen. david, as someone whos worked for presidents, both republican and democrat, what do you make of this tweet? >> well, first of all, anderson, its good to see you. beyond that, were back to my hands are bigger than your hands. my nuclear button is bigger than your nuclear button. there is sort of a male sort of, you know, rivalry here that i think that -- what i think is happening is that the white house legitimately sees that the north...

Beyond that, were back to my hands are bigger than your hands. my nuclear button is bigger than your nuclear button. there is sort of a male sort of, you know, rivalry here that i think that -- what i think is happening is that the white house legitimately sees that the north koreans reaching out to the south koreans to begin one-on-one talks with the south koreans could very much go crosswise with u.s. policy at being very tough on north korea. as you know, anderson, the south korean government...

Republican party on capitol hill said he needs to go now and they dont want him in the united states senate. the white house is in a different place here, and the reason is twofold. one is the presidents own personal history with accusers. this makes it an extraordinary comfortable and awkward conversation for the president to have, and it cuts against his own base politics. this is where we were on the losing side of the strange/moore primary in the runoff in alabama. we know the bannon wing is...

I also think theres a political calculation here because he does not want to be crosswise with his base. you heard that gentleman there speaking on behalf the moore campaign constantly referring roy moores going to go there and support the trump agenda. the people who support president trump talking to alabamians. this is whats key for trump. he knows the bannon wing energy. that the fiery base of the party has not abandoned moore here. and he doesnt want to be on the other side of the voters. >...