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Churchs pastors. the daughter of the chief pastor said he didnt want to speak with us. how are you? >> hi. >> reporter: good is the pastor home? herbert shibel is in jail and the children are in state custody. do you feel you did right by god? >> no comment. >> reporter: this is herbert shibal eers attorney. >> hes sad in a grieving mode. i looked at him this morning. he seems to have lost weight, but in terms of holding up, hes a standup guy. >> reporter: certainly, thats the most controversial...