you write in the book about how there s a tension, i think an interesting thing to wrestle with, between when you call yourself a liberal zionist. a tension between the two ideas, it gross out of a seed bed of continental nationalism, and at the same time, liberalism is fundamentally universalistic in its vision. how do you resolve that tension? i, but i argue that there are tensions, there can be tension between two valid principles, you can have tension between national security and civil liberties, environmental protection and economic development. i believe there s a tension between a state that is designated to safeguard the jewish people and a state that offers whose declaration of independence promises complete equality. i believe given jewish history, that in fact jews do have a right and need for a state dedicated to their protection. i m young enough to remember when it was only the state of israel who was wé pájjt to go ad scoop up the ethiopian jews that