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Immigrants. that tells me were on the downhill side of that debate where its becoming more politically beneficial to be behind the latino community and immigration reform than it has been in the past. >> its politically beneficial -- >> thats a great thing. if youre on the side of immigration reform, thats a great thing. >> okay. >> that its the right thing to do and its the politically good thing. >> its politically good because of the numbers. >> right. >> okay. all right. >> and the right thi...