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Andy: it was the tale of two surveys. if you look at the household survey it was good. the employment rate went down to 4.5% 4.5%.ion didn labor participation didnt drop. we created 326,000 fewer people were unemployed. when you look at the establishment survey it was a big departure from a.d.p.m im shopeing that number will be adjusted up. paul: we have had a lot of hard data and some of the softer stuff. are we in another economic slow patch as everybody waits to see what kind of policy change...