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2016 election, but it spiked. the effort spiked after the 2016 election and continued to mirror more closely the same rhetoric that trump was using to under mine, for example, the mueller investigation. >> and it is continuing to this day, so on all kinds of topics, but even syria, you see the russian bots and the social media controlled by the bots erupting and making the same points that the russian government would make. and trying to keep us from doing anything more there. what it goes back ...

>> they are very aggressive people. they may get aggressive and congratulations, youre in world war iii. were not only are we paying for most of it. they werent even paying and were protecting that. add to that your little equation on montenegro. >> youre someone who could have been called to defend an ally, not montenegro when just joined but other smaller countries. how do you view these comments? >> when i served in iraq, jake, i served under general mattis, whos now of course the secretary o...

Burns and zareef, the foreign minister. they claim they are not having follow-up meetings but there have been secret back channels. >> i would lean on you to read between the lines but it felt like to me in the moment in that exchange they were very much walking -- the secretary was walking back and dialing down on this notion theres going to be this hand holding with iran, vis-a-vis iraq. he made it sound like, maybe we should talk. whats your perspective on it. heres our perspective on it so t...