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Line blown out of the sky, 224 people dead, icy claims responsibility. this week, twin bombings in beirut, isis says, it was us. yesterday, six-prong massacre across paris, ice isis takes responsibility. is this a centralized group or a series of terror groups saying, and pledging allegiance to isis. >> poppy, its both. its centralized group but also a group that has franchised out, an ideology that has affiliate groups that take direct orders or act on their own. under a broad umbrella of a glo...

Into al qaeda affiliate groups across north africa, into east africa and arabian peninsula. he promise ad $5 billion counterterrorism training program. think that was the right point for the president to make. jenna: seems, am bass do, you believe most of the cases the actions are following the words appropriately but, bret, brings up another question as well. not just how we perceive the presidents words and policies but how do you think our enemies perceive what he has to say? >> i think the b...

Added security at their installation there. the state department did not. as you just heard from senator feinstein, theres also some suggestion that the ambassador didnt want that added security in benghazi. he had requested additional security in tripoli. to me, the big news here is about the language, and clearly, the republicans are still stuck on this business about affiliated. and the key argument would be sort of, does that mean they were under the control of al qaeda? the core group that ...

This extremely skilled bombmaker in yemen who has smuggled you know, are bombs on to a variety of planes. the underwear bomber of christmas day 2009 that was supposed to blow up over detroit. october 2010, two bombs that were put on a cargo planes eventually headed to chicago. luckily those plots were interrupted. clearly this is a skilled bombmaker. hes still out there and that is a problem. >> when she says there are more groups than ever and there is, in her words, huge ma lev lance out there...

Senate committees on intelligence, mike rogers, dianne feinstein, we saw them talking about this dooms day scenar scenario, where mr. snowden is partly to blame for making things much worse in our national security situation. take a listen. >> so you think about whats happened with the recent disclosures. we now have three the al-qaeda affiliate groups have changed the way they communicate. means its less likely were going to be able to detect something prior to an event that goes operational, m...

>> well, i think were talking about two different things here, wolf. what is a threat to the united states and two, how is al qaeda and affiliated groups doing around the world. on the latter question, in places like hoob irk and syria is building the truck bombs described by senator feinstein and enjoying a renaissance in both countries. the next question is to what extent is that a threat to the united states. for the moment, these groups are being very focused on overthrowing the assad govern...

Bombs, trucks being reinforced for those bombs. >> i absolutely agree that were not safer today. for the same very reasons. so the pressure on our intelligence services to get it right to prevent an attack are enormous. its getting more difficult because we see the al qaeda as we knew it before is metastasizing to something different. >> lets bring in national security analyst peter bergen joining us right now. one of the things that dianne feinstein just said, she said when she said that were n...

In yemen, theyve taken a lot of heat. in mali, they basically controlled half the country in the beginning of the year and now they dont because of the actions of the french army. in some place theres doing well and some places not so well. >> what is the status of al qaeda right now? not just al qaeda led by ayman al zawahiri, the successor to bin laden, but the al qaeda affiliate groups, those groups that support al qaeda may not necessarily be well coordinated but they sort of pledge their al...

Mostly get away with? >> well, lets look at it from a distance, alex. you know, dry runs are real. they did them in 9/11. they did them in the london train bombings. they did them in many other terrorist attacks. we know dry runs are real. al qaeda is noted for planning, planning, and planning. so are their affiliate groups. but -- so the thing is, an alert passenger is always going to be a safer passenger and report it. trying to sort out this orlando flight one is kind of tough. is that really...

Design by the leaders of al-qaeda including usama bin laden and aymanal al-zawahiri, and the idea is when the corporate structure of the headquarters is hurt, that the wider network is still able to carry out attacks worldwide. this is what theyre doing right now, and it shows that their strategy has paid off. and so al-qaeda is far from dead, in fact, its very much alive. were looking right now at al-qaeda 2.0. jenna: have we adjusted our strategy accordingly? >> well, i dont think so. i think ...