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There is really no great advantage for them. the moment has passed in many cases where, you know, justice could be done for them specifically. >> why is this still so partisan, gabe? >> i mean, i -- were such a tribal culture. i mean, this is really -- and you know one of the only thing i can compare it to is my experience reporting on fox news. i had people at fox news who did not want to believe the allegations against roger ailes. it was drilled into almost their identity that they were a fox...

Wikileaks. we dont know who wrote those messages. it doesnt matter. its the main wikileaks account that has millions of followers thats been verified by twitter and its exchanging messages back and forth with, you know, one of the top surrogates of what was then the trump campaign, the republican nominees oldest son. and now, you know, the presidents oldest son. asking him for favors. >> that goes to the other thing i want to ask you as a student of this. youve covered it for a long time. the th...

Almost intimate relationship here. >> michael, back to you. >> president trump had a relatively good trip until the end and there was a seventh grade tweet about kim jong-un. here is a tweet. especially as president trump has this big announcement upon returning from this asia trip. what -- what do you make of this, these words? >> hes talking about being everybodys friend, eventually almost like hes having a fight in the school yard, but when the fight is over theyre going to hug it out. and i ...

Of lives do you see president trump addressing that in the no. its pretty clear that the president do terror to is inflicted calamity of human rights abuses on the philippines is off the table in terms of president trumps priorities which is very disappointing but not surprising because president trump has repeatedly proven that he has an affinity for strongman rulers with well documented abuses against their citizens but the wider issue is we have these human rights abuses going on the philippi...

Certain affinity for strong men. duterte and when he goes up on a veterans day and sort of takes president putins word at no meddling over our own intelligence agencies and then tries to clean it up a day later, that doesnt send a clear america first signal in the best sense. too often this president seems to enjoy at the gravitational drift of company with soft authoritarian leaders. >> karoun, lets talk about the latest development in the face of four accusers who did not seek out the press an...

Launching a nuclear weapon or worked and retired. he talked about how little -- how few steps you have to take. this is a relic of the cold war era. is ready and feeling liberated to talk about president trump and to talk about his various flaws as he sees them. i think the fact hes having this hearing goes to this idea that republicans have to be liberated before they have have conversations that a lot are having on background or off the record. the other thing is i want to see what republicans...

Affinity and fascination for nuclear weapons. as our colleague morning joe know noted, he brought it up in the private talk where he was talking about just -- how many nuclear weapons we have and what it would mean to actually launch them. theres been reporting that he is wondering -- he never really -- you ruled out using a nuke, even in europe. thats a rhetorical device. he has a fascination. he also now has the tools at his disposal. we really do need to have a sober and ernest conversation a...

Meet with putin this morning in da nang, in vietnam, as had been so widely anticipated? >> of course i am surprised. you know, the president has an affinity for putin, as well as russia. clearly he denies that they have any type of involvement in the last election. democrats and republicans are now pointing out that, in fact, we have proof that they did. but i think what you see here is a -- some good work being done by white house staff to basically keep the president from meeting putin, whethe...

The interplay between congress and the white house and a number of things and similarly, those are conversations that pence has had with dig cheney. >> thank you, youve had conversations with joe pence, how do you think they are, two or three hours? >> the biggest issue mike pence, he is used to say, joe, joe, i got to go. as carole points out, this began because of vice presidents affinity for cooperation throughout his career, his love of politics, but his larger love of the country, the unite...

Younger. lets bring the political panel to discuss this. david chalon, theres a lot of people on capitol hill, a lot of republicans saying if the charges are true, then he needs to step aside. with the one exception being john mccain who says the charges ape loan with disqualifying and he should step aside. heres the thing, judge moore says the charges are not true. four women on the record say that the charges are true. so where does that leave these republicans? i mean, its not as if roy moore...