this woman who is now a secret service agent? we ve chosen not to use her name. it s not her fault the sheriff dragged her into this. as i understand she left it the sheriff s office three, four years ago, possibly more and the deputy reserve deputies have to qualify every year. so they lost those old records, where are the new ones? jim cavanaugh, your reaction to everything you ve heard here so far? well, you know lawrence as a commander in law enforcement, every commander knows the first time one of your agents officers or deputies is involved in a shooting the first thing you have to produce is their firearms and training records going back for a few years. it s always relevant in a shooting case. we all know that. all departments maintain that. all agents deputies police officers routinely qualify with their firearms. they have to. there s a record kept. the firearms instructors keep them. there s not cheating. it should be structured. it s very tight.