watching him and he continues to ask us to call kevin, this dallas police officer. so we actually get ahold of kevin and kevin doesn t know mr. wallace. only knows that he s had his number and he s called him so many times, it s almost to ah-hah rasing point. the negotiators tell wallace that they are unable to reach kevin and offer him a chair to sit down. it was a tactical advantage for us because we knew we had his movement restricted. if we have to shoot mr. wallace the child won t fall from six foot level of height but smaller level. zoe is remarkably calm but wallace is deteriorating by the minute. he s sweating profusely, agitated and irritated. david, who s trained in crisis intervention knows that mr. wallace is having a manic episode. he s trying to calm him down. but after more than 30 minutes of negotiations, wallace still isn t cooperating. instead, he begins counting down.