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Transcripts for CNN Inside Politics With Dana Bash 20240604 16:18:00

open question right now beyond who is on the stage whether donald trump is going to agree to go. this poll, it s a fox busine poll, showed something really interesting. people in wa said that it shows weakness if a person, aka donald trump, skips the debate. south carolina, same thing. pretty much almost 6 in 10 of the people responding to this poll say it would make him look weak. i would be curious what breakdown of those who said no supporting trump or not already, right. we know how much support he has. yeah. but l donald trump has skipped debates before. he did this in 2016 and didn t have a huge impact on him. i m of the belief it won t hurt him that much if he doesn t go. that being said, there are some voters for whom this will show they will believe that this shows weakness and how donald trump deals with that is an open question. i think the other question is, with so many people on stage, i

Transcripts for CNN Smerconish 20240604 19:25:00

decisive action on high-profile cases and tough enough to stand up against the president of the united states in the courtroom in an historic indictment. that would be my best guess. but he had to know he would subject himself to immense scrutiny, based on bipartisan mistakes, going after both democrat and in my case a republican person, and getting unanimously revoked. he got the law unanimously wrong in my case. so i question mr. garland s judgment in this pick knowing he was going to get this kind of and the prosecution of so-called public corruption all across the country. i m going to put on the screen a social media reaction that just came in. go ahead, let s see what it says. potus 47, aka potus 47, aka donald trump, will not need to pardon himself. let that sink in. governor, quick question for you. what s the prospect that whomever is potus 47, donald trump, biden, kamala harris, ron

Transcripts for CNN Smerconish 20240604 19:26:00

desantis, pardons donald trump? do you think this ends with a jerry ford-like move? of course that presumes he would be convicted. michael, my concern is we have weaponized the criminal justice system. i think both parties have done it. you know, the rule of law is much more important than any person or one president that might be elected. that s my broader concern, is when you do things as in my case getting the law wrong for whatever your motivations might be, you undermine the basic tenet of american civilization, which is the rule of law. no one is above the law, but everyone is treated fairly under the law. so i think that there might be if he s convicted, there very well may be, because of the reaction to that conviction, there very well may be an act by a future president to do, as you said, what ford did, and create peace in our nation, to have a pardon. that s a long way down the road. we have to see what happens. what s the real evidence, not in the press, but in the cour

Transcripts for CNN Smerconish 20240604 19:14:00

in any event, i appreciate you being here. i know how you re going to vote on today s poll question. make sure you go and do it. okay? go to smerconish.com. today s poll question, we went through a whole variety of machinations. i said, let s make it simple. is safe necessary? that s the question, go vote at smerconish.com. still to come, now even the centrists are polarized. the group no labels working to nominate a third-party presidential candidate while rival group third way says that would just re-elect donald trump. how is that going to play out? and will special counsel jack smith s documents case against president trump hold up in court? several of the high-profile cases smith brought in the anticorruption unit ended with a mistrial or hung jury. the supreme court reversed the conviction of my next guest, former virginia governor bob mcdonald. plus, it s being called the greatest grift in american

Transcripts for CNN Smerconish 20240604 19:32:00

your kohler® walk-in bath. and take advantage of our low monthly payment financing. now it s the centrists who are at war. the washington post reports last week there was a high-powered meeting at a dc think tank aimed at shutting down a third-party presidential candidacy for 2024. in attendance prominent strategists, including advisers to president biden like ron crain, claire mccaskill and republicans from the linking project like bill crystal. their mission was to figure out how to best subvert a third-party presidential bid by the group no labels, an effort they all agreed risked undermining biden s re-election campaign and re-electing former president donald trump to the

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