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>> yes, they have reunions all the time and i would like to thank you especially everyone from crystal springs, my aunt and my mother's sister. all of you guys and it's great to see you, thank you so much. 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[inaudible] [laughter] >> this blew my mind. [laughter] >> that is terribly exciting and finally i'm excited to have a book it says something a little bit knew about the drug war and we all know that the drug war is bad and awful. i don't need to tell you that. and you know that the drug war is bad and awful. and it's really excited and we are able to look at the history and look at where we are today, talk to people and go to places and figure out a way to tell this story in a way that makes us giving us a different lens an object on something that we know is horrible. and something that gives us a way to deal with it and create a better future and i'm terribly sorry. i'm glad you all came out. [applause] >> thank you for coming. when the war on drugs was being launched, the man who launched it said that there was one place in the world that proved more than any other that it was going to work. he said if you look at this place, it would prove that if you crack down hard enough and you'd you arrested enough people and if you are consistently passed many would disappear. that place was baltimore. how is that working out for you? and i feel like i should kind of apologize for something. and the only hitman made it out and they made it out from prison there. i went out into a jack-in-the-box. do you know what this is [inaudible] and i went in there and said can i have a quarter pounder with cheese. and she said to me what why. and i said can i have a quarter pounder with cheese and she said do you speak english. [laughter] and i said i people invented that. and i had to talk about this we had a lot of drug addiction and my family. a couple of relatives were not able to be a part of this. and there were loads of basic questions that i have been loading onto. why would drugs stand in the first place, why would they care about it if it wasn't working. and what were the alternatives? i realized that they talked about it in an abstract way. and so we are talking with loads of different people and their our scientist that are fitting them to see if they like them. to the only country in the world that has decriminalized this with results. the main thing that i took away is almost everything we think we know about the subject is wrong. drugs are not what we think they are. drug addiction is not what we think. the drug war is not what we have been told that it is and the alternative is not what they think that they are. and so they have the stories of real people whose lives were changed. and so just about five or six of the people that i have talked about in the book are part of this. one of them in 1939. and she sang a song called strange fruit. and she said to me that you have to understand how shocking this was. we have african american women standing in front of an audience in a hotel where she was not allowed to walk through the front door, she went through the side elevator singing a song against lynching. that night according to her biographer billie holliday received a threat and a warning from the federal euro of narcotics. they said to stop singing this song. the man who ran the bureau was a guy who is the most influential person and no one has ever heard of him he was the founder. he took over the department of prohibition just as alcohol prohibition was ending. he had to find a new purpose for his department and he was driven by two strong hatreds, one was the hatred about it and the other was the hatred of african-americans. this was a guy regarded as a crazy racist by the crazy racist of the 1930s and he was the and -- he used the n-word. billie holiday was everything he hated with an african-american woman standing up it was a heroin addict, it he got that jazz was the kind of mongrel evil music that is a sign of chaos and he would write these memos where he would listen to the lyrics like he thinks he can walk across the ocean and that is what they do think when they use the drug heroin. but billy grew up surrounded by the smell of burning feces. she grew up in something you're a town. and billie holiday learn something. she made herself a promise. she was not allowed in a lot of stores because she was an african-american, should should never bow her head to any white man. she gets this threat and says in effect that screw you, i will sing my song, i will do what i want, and that is the point at which they began. they hated employing african-americans and they had a rule that they would be part of this organization and it was hard to send a white guy to stop billie holiday. so they employed a man called jimmy fletcher. and she sent them to prison. she said you needed a license to perform anywhere and they would not give it to her and they said what is the coolest things you can do to a person is to take away the thing that you love and that includes ads all over the world today. -- he said they're never going to work again, they have a criminal record area and when she was in the early 40s, she was taken to a hospital and they said they are going to kill me in there, don't let them. in a hospital she's diagnosed with liver cancer and they arrest her on a hospital bed. the last minute was still alive in that room eugene, he was an incredible man. they take away the candies and toys and everything that she has. she goes and she hasn't got any heroine. so she starts to recover. ten days later they cut the methadone and she dies. one of her friends that she had been violently wrenched from my. but she insisted on singing her song. she would go anywhere that they would have her no matter what they did. she always saying. it helped me to think about the addicts in my life. and it really helped me to know that the addicts can be heroes her friend said that billie holiday was a week, she was a strong she can be. and i wanted to understand how those dynamics continued through today. and there was one individual named chino hardin. his mother who was a crack addict was raped by an lapd officer who was his father. he was a child of the drug war in the purest sense. his mother debra said nothing was done to ferment the prevention. the distribution was a crime and when he's 13 he becomes a crack dealer on the corner. and you can understand the dynamics of what happens. i'm guessing with a liquor store on the street, it certainly isn't far away. so if we go into that if we go into that liquor store any of us tonight and we tried to steal the beer or vodka, and i apologize if any of you do that after i speak they will call the cops and they will come and take us away. the liquor store doesn't need to be violent. if we go to a local wheat dealer and we tried to steal their goods, they cannot call the police. right? the police will come and arrest them. they have to be terrifying. they either have to fight you or better yet established a reputation to be so frightening that you would not dare take them on. she is one of the most empathetic people that i know and she had to learn to be terrified. he had to learn to discipline his gang by ripping them out. he had to be aggressive and violent end they were talking about creating a culture of terror. if people still wanted to buy milk this is not about drugs, this is about prohibition they are not going to shoot any of the people in that wal-mart. the out all prohibition they were killing each other. what happens is they rise to the crips they talk about something with gang members it cost a million dollars per year. and so if you got any idea, were happy to talk about it. and so chino rises and starts using crack as he put it to me he said he wanted to know what my mother chose over me. so when he gets out of prison he starts to read about the drug war. and he discovers something that blows his mind this is not something that just happens in the world, it's not like a tsunami or a hurricane. this is a political choice and what happened to his mother what happened to him, all of that, it did not have to happen. he became a campaigner against the war on drugs. this includes shutting down the prison he was put in. and he succeeded. he was also very articulate in explaining how much this is still about what it was about what billie holiday. when he found out that billie holiday was a heroin addict, he also found out that judy garland was one. he told judy garland to take slightly longer vacations and that she would be fine. and that person called [inaudible name] was standing on the interstate 95 and maddux was a cop. she was arresting anyone she could find she had long hair and a hot temper they get to take away whatever they want and her best friend was lisa she was murdered by what she believed was a drug gang. and so that was why she went into it. but he was onto something. if you rest a rapist, the next week no one thinks that they're someone else on the corner but crucially leading to something more important.. the murder rate goes up if you bust the dealers. and what she discovered you trigger a war between rival gangs to control this. you start a turf war, there are 10,000 deaths per year in the united states, three 9/11's and there are a lot of people being caught in the crossfire. and they were hit in the crossfire and they didn't know what to do. they also believe very strongly that he was shot by the dealer couldn't he just thought it was the dealer and so she is -- i'm so proud to know her, such an extraordinary person. and i wanted to know what life is like on the supply. this dynamic that we are talking about, the dynamic of creating the right to put it, the war on drugs creating a war for drugs. and this was in el paso. [inaudible] and every morning i would walk across the bridge and you would walk across the bridge into what feels like an american city. and there is a 2% conviction rate and that 2% of them do it. the way it really helped me to understand the story there is to understand that they never sold drugs. they had no interest in it. she was 14 years old and then one day a guy shows up and he says i have a kid and i need some work, will you help me, is there anything i can do. and they said i can't give you a job. and so [inaudible] having an affair with my daughter, she's working, and you have not them. and she tried to get pregnant, but she tried to do this all the time and one day she turns up and ruby is not there. so her baby in there and survey says that ruby ran away, she went off with another man. and another individual says she didn't run off with another man and leave her child with you, i know she wouldn't do that and they said well, that's what happened. so she said have you seen my daughter and they just have to drive out out into the desert with them. and i hope that you can destroy the body. she says i can go and she goes to the police and says you have to do something. and they still don't quite understand why. they eventually campaigns managing to get this on trial. and so they break down and apologize to her and he admits what he did. and two weeks later he is acquitted. and he disappeared and she discovers that sergei works for the mexican drug cartel. so let's say five or 10% in the hands of armed criminal gangs selling drugs how this is going to be a lousy place to live, 70% of the economy is in illegal drugs and they can outbid this state. i was being shown around by one individual who was a correspondent who was killed by the police. [inaudible] in the age of prohibition she would not accept it. she decided to track down survey and she turns up to a detective that she spends three years tracking him all over mexico and she becomes a crack detective. and she walks across the desert and after three years she finds them. she goes to the police. and they go away again. and she goes and stands outside the governor's mansion and she leads a protest and she has become a symbol of everything. she stands outside and she makes this amazing speech about how people in mexico deserve justice. and in front of all of the police a man walks up and shoots her in the head. and a woman whose wages you pay the head of the drug enforcement agency, was asked about the 60,000 deaths of civilians in the last seven years and i urge you to look it up. she said that it was a sign of success on the war on drugs and when i went and talked to her i said to her stay with me with what she said. i said were your friends and she said we were terrified that sometimes your love is stronger than your fair. and it's something in the hope of that so i contrasted what she said that really stayed with me. another thing i wanted to understand was what causes drug addiction. if you would've said to me four years ago i would've said heroin causes heroin addiction. for 100 years we've been told a story that is so obvious that it has become part of our common sense. and we think that the first 20 people [inaudible] that we would physically need hair when that we would physically crave it. and that there may be something wrong with that theory and if any of us stepped out into the street and are hit by a car and we break, we will be taken to the hospital and it's likely that we will be given a lot of morphine which is harrowing. it's much better than street heroin which is five or 10%. you will be given out for a long time, that has happened at johns hopkins in any university in baltimore, it's happened at every hospital in the united states and the developed world people are being given a lot. and he wouldn't know is that your grandmother was not turned into a junkie by her hip operation. it's what we think about, if it's right, those people should be leaving as addicts but that doesn't happen. and so i didn't know what to do with it because it seems so weird. we talked to a man named bruce alexander and he explained to me that the addiction, the one that i believe has a series of experiments that were done early in the 20th century as few can go home and do them yourself, you get a rat and you put it in a cage and give it to water bottles, one is water and one is with heroin or cocaine. if you do that the rat will almost prefer the drug and almost always kill itself. so there you go addiction confirmed. until 1970 one individual says wait a minute, it's got nothing to do let's try this differently, so keep this experiment, he built rat park. it's got friends, tunnels, everything they could want in rat park and of course they tried this because they didn't know what was in it. but in rat park, they don't like the drug him and they hardly ever use it, none of them ever overdose, none of them ever use it in a way that looks compulsive i think there's a human experiment all around about this do what he does is he says this is the right wing theory that is flawed and the lettering theory is that it takes you over and hijacks your brain. he says that it's not a morality and it's not your brain. addiction is an adaptation to your environment. there was a fascinating experiment going on at the same time called the vietnam war 20% of american troops were using this. if you look at reports from the time they were really worried. they were like my goodness, all of these people are going to come back and we are going to have hundreds of thousands on the street. what happened? all of the study show that they came back and almost all of them just stopped. they did not go into rehab or withdraw they stopped because they got taken out of the jungle where you don't want to be and it's a nightmare and you could get killed at any moment, you go back to your nice life with your friends and your family and the equivalent had been taken out and be put into the second. and so i was in the war on drugs was based on the idea that the chemicals cause of the addiction and we need to physically eradicate them. so i don't think that's possible physically to eradicate these chemicals, we cannot keep drugs out as easily. we pay a lot of people good luck keeping it out of the united states, but you can at least understand that that has a philosophical appearance. but if that is not what causes addiction, the vast majority believe that those don't become addictive, it is isolation and pain, it is also the drug war that is built on the idea that what we should do without it is inflict more isolation and pain on them. in that reason they took me to this solitary confinement and there are desperate addicted women and i suddenly thought this is the closest you are ever going to get to a human reenactment of the cage that guarantees addiction. when they get out the site with billie holiday, they won't be able to work or do the things that they love. and i think it has deep philosophical applications. a guy says we shouldn't use the word addiction but bonding. human beings have an innate need to bond and the bond that we have is mostly with each other. but if you are deprived of the ability to bond with each other whether you're traumatized or cut off or humiliated or isolated, you will bond with something that gives you pleasure, that might be a roulette wheel but you will bond with something and if we want people to give up their bond, the moment that we talk about this we talk about how this could be individual recovery and we need to talk more about social recovery as well, something has gone wrong not with just individuals but a group. we have created a society where he number of our fellow citizens cannot bear to be present without being heavily medicated. the telling you to stories about the end of the war on drugs. good news, the war on drugs has begun to end. and i went to the places where it has begun to end. i thought that if i go there and it didn't work it could be the most oppressive and book ever written. but actually what i saw blew my mind. in the year 2000 the same time that we were standing outside baltimore a man called bud osborne was living on the streets near downtown vancouver. they have the worst concentration of attic in america. it was reported that the place at the end of the line people called it the terminal city. his friends were dying all around. so if you start to overdose, no one else sees you your body is found two days later. bob said that i have to do something about this, i cannot just watch all my friends die. and he also thought what can i do, i am a homeless street at and he had a very small and simple idea he got together the addicts and died when we are not using why don't we patrol the alleyways and have a timetable and if we spot someone, we will call an ambulance. and they started to do it. and a few months past and the overdose rate started to fall. that was great in itself but it also meant that the addicts got to think of themselves differently. and so they said they started to go to public meetings about the menace of the addicts and they would sit in the back and listen and they would say i think the were talking about us. and sometimes people would be really angry and they would say things like you leave your needles lying around. they say that is fine, we will extend it to collect them at the end of every day. then bob learned about frankfurt, germany. a place that you could go we could use heroin and then they said we are going to make it happen and they started to talk about this. picture that romney. a wealthy right-wing businessman. and they started to follow him everywhere they went saying that addicts will be taken to a local military base. and they started to follow him everywhere they went and they carried a coffin and the coffin said something like he will die and this goes on for two years and they start to get disillusioned because nothing is changing and people are still dying in huge numbers. one thing he said is that who are these people. and he just spends a lot of time with addicts. and his mind is blown. he had no idea. and so i learned when it comes back to this i hold a press conference and is the chief of police and corner, he has a chance to sam never going to talk about addiction again because they understand it better than anyone and we are going to openness first room in north america and have the most compassionate drug policy is in the things are going to change. they open the first injection room and they are so horrified. so there's a right-wing candidate in that candidate is beaten by a more liberal candidate who wins and keeps it open. the result are in 10 years later. overdose has gone by 80% and an average life expectancy has improved by 10 years. he only get stats like that at the end of the war which his likeness. bob died last year and he was only in his early 60s. but it takes a toll on you. they sealed off the streets to have a memorial service enormous crowds of people came and huge numbers of people knew that they were only alive because of what he had done. they think they are powerless and what can they do i want to tell you that you are so much more powerful than what you know. and this includes the saving of thousands of people's lives. it can never be taken away now. he did that by starting monday on one street with a bunch of alex. and i also wanted to go to the only place in the world that decriminalize all drugs from cannabis to crack and i wanted to the story about this. portugal had one of the worst drug problems in europe. 1% of the population. .. to be fair to them a stop on the panel comes back and says decriminalize everything but then here's the crucial next step, take all the money we currently spend on arresting drug users trying and imprisoning drug users. let's use all that money on really good judge treatment and it's mostly not what we think of drug treatment and united states. some of it is residential rehab and some of it is psychological support hugely valuable. the biggest thing is -- we could all be drinking vodka now. why are we? is because we have got something to do. we have meaning and purpose in our lives. we have things who want to be present for in our lives. the bully wants to be present for. game of the portuguese to criminalization was to make sure that every addict in portugal had something to get out of bed for so the biggest element of the program of subsidized jobs. say you had a problem and he used to be a mechanic. when you are ready they say if you employ this guy for a year we will pay half his wages. or microloans or groups of attics to sell businesses. the group of 15 attics addicts have this incredible support group. if you are one and 14 that have relapsed the other guys have a strong incentive to support you and get you clean. and it's been 14 years now and again the results are in. injecting drug use is down by 50% in portugal. although studies show addiction is down trade overdoses massively down and a guy named and i can't say portuguese names iis get them wrong. he led the campaign against the criminalization. he was the talk -- top drug cop in portugal and he is what a lot of people watching as we think and if you are criminalized will have all sorts of problems. and i'm paraphrasing everything i said would happen didn't happen everything the other side said what happened at any talk to me about how ashamed he was that he spent 20 years arresting and harassing drug users read and he hoped the whole world followed portugal's example. i don't want to get to -- i knew but i believe i've seen the future and it works. you know to wars began in 1914 two global wars. one is the war on drugs that hasn't ended and what is the first world war which lasted it it -- to 40 years. you know that some aging -- amazing images of the great enormity and france with all these graves stretched out for miles and miles. try to imagine if all the people from the war on drugs were buried in one place who would be there. you would have billie holliday and the song son she never got to sing. you would have leaves friends lisa and dead. he would have loved friend to die behind dumpsters. he would have a lot of people who were loved by people in this room. we have got a choice. we have got another century. we can fill that graveyard with far more people or we can choose a policy of love and compassion that will save a huge number of those lives. it's up to us now. thank you. thanks very much. [applause] so any questions? >> we have time for some q&a so if you would like to ask a question there are mics in the aisle right now. please line up and use the microphones. >> i would say two things, almost all the questions have been firm men so i'm going to police is that we have half women. you think there's a connection on the war on drugs and alien to my buddy meant illegal aliens and i started giving an answer like evil smuggling and mexican cartels. he said i mean extraterrestrials. i don't think extraterrestrials exist and he was horrified so as long as your question about that i will be very happy. if anyone wants to come because it's being filmed. if you just want to ask a question and come to the microphone. >> you mentioned a country that is legalize all drugs i believe. can you describe the country and how is that working out? as far as helping society and young people and how are they being educated for its usage? >> is an important distinction. decriminalization means you don't punish people for using. legalization into established a legal route to getting the drugs to portugal made decriminalize and it deals with some of the problems about others. the way i explain it is they shot down orange to the new black but they still have breaking bad traits i went to a country where they legalize heroin. i am also a swiss citizen in switzerland legalize heroin. this is really shocking because switzerland is really a right-wing country. when i was talking to someone about the war on drugs. he said i know we should do about the war on drugs. we should -- is that we are book is about? if you are a heroin addict you go to a doctor in the doctor will refer to the clinic and did not clinic you can go wherever you want to go and they will give you heroin. they will give you of whatever doesn't care when you asked for and you can't take it out with you but you can be given at there. one was unexpected. so they could carry on for as long as they want with a heroin and she's like yeah but the fascinating thing is almost everyone because their life stabilizes with the chaos of street is having to scramble for street use and all the prostitution most of them start to get their life together. they get jobs and they choose to reduce the heroin because their reality gets better. they choose to stay in reality longer and 70% of swiss people voted to keep that policy. probably because they're so much less street crime. street prostitution in to. there was much less mugging, much less violence so there was legalization. can we take a woman? i promise we'll we will come to you. thank you. hello. >> i work for a provider agency that does community-based alternatives for kids in juvenile detention. we use a rapper and advocacy approach. it's all about connections to you are helping to impose peace but last week that was in pennsylvania and harrisburg at the capitol talking to a legislator who very clearly was like people are attics and they make those choices and we have to punish them. what is a narrative that we can use for those of us whose experience tell us what you're saying in your book that we can use for naysayers and things like back? or positions of authority and power to make those changes? >> you may think it's like fluffy or feel-good or you want to have a thug kind of than what i think is great. >> that is sorely needed and really important. i guess what i would say is we have had a massive dehumanization and american britain and other places. there's no other minority i can think of where when they die lots of people say they brought it on themselves bear member went and the whitehouse guide or the kid from glee lots of people were saying they brought it on themselves. even a person at alton john guide wouldn't say good. it would be really extreme if they did that. it's about humanizing addicts and telling the story so it's about people coming out. like how did we change? 1963 the riots, two theaters in in -- 2000 years ago people were being persecuted. the defenders of people the pro-position was to say they are not evil, they are sick. that was the pro-position in people toga stories that people in their lives and incredibly people all over the world said i'm and i'm not the way you think i am. so partly stories about it coming out like you have black lives matter which is hugely important. i think we need the message addicts lives better. when the horrendous things i did for the book was i went to arizona the place about the chain gang and i interviewed to -- who works in prison right. tell me about something that shocked you. and she went through this long list list. somewhere down the who is she said there was a time i put that woman in the cage and cooked her. that was bad. i do the facial expression like you'd guys did just then today said sorry donna could you go back a second? there was a woman named marsha powell. she kept being arrested for having math or for prostituting herself to get mad. in her early 40s and one day she was in a prison and she was suicidal. the doctor didn't believe she was suicidal but to punish her for making noise they took her and put her in this cage in arizona, and exposed cage in the desert. and they left her there and she screamed and she begged for water and the guards mocked her and eventually she collapsed him by the time they called an ambulance she had been cooked. no one was ever criminally punished because addicts lives don't matter in our culture. and when they found the father of her children got the story of her life which is heartbreaking like billie holliday. she was a prostitute as a child. i think it's partly about explaining addiction is caused by pain and we need to tell a lot more real stories of real addicts and you know i think most people are pretty compassionate. most people are decent people and most americans had gold of you. if tell the stories i think that vindictive lets cook them in cages mentality will not thrive. thank you. thanks. hi. hello. >> i was wondering if you decriminalized everything in portugal do you think that the differences in american society that the same thing would work in the united states because it's a larger country with a more diverse society and social problems that they are lots of it in portugal? >> professor jeffrey miron said if you add up all the money spent on the drug weren't over taxes you would raise from drag jack city tax them the way we tax alcohol you would have ordered $3 billion a year. you could do what portugal did on steroids for $43 billion a year. that's an enormous sum of money so yeah transferring the money from something that makes addiction worse to something that helps people to turn around their lives absolutely would work. of course the details of the different than what works in mississippi may not work on the upper east side. we need to experience cautiously and be humble and say some of it will work in some of a while but i have to think it would work united states. we have parties in the legalization of marijuana in colorado and washington could i tell the story of how that incredible campaign by fantastic people was one in colorado. i think that's the short answer. can we go to a woman next? hello, come forward. i'm sorry, the light is blinding me. i literally couldn't see you at all. >> i've a question on the process of researching and i'm wondering the broader connections that you made great how much of that became clear as you are traversing geographic space and how much was part and parcel of the at analysis? >> no one asked me about the process of writing the book. i'm so happy. amygdala's book the riders like it if anyone wants to be a writer pleased by that book. it's amazing. has a brief analysis from thoreau. apparently i know nothing about nature either. apparently they want to find to be hibernate on the word is you look for a big jar catch the b. and hold that they're permanent. if you open the jar that be will freak out and find the direction of the hive so you cheese -- chased to be you lose it and catch another another be left that wants another be let that one can only do that 10 or 15 times you find the hive. that was basically the process of writing my book. i started with a list of people who i thought were interesting on the subject and i said well should i talk to? i found lee and i found so many people. it was a really fascinating process that led me and sometimes you would speak to a chain of nine people. you didn't get anything ported suddenly i would find lee. so that's the process. hi. >> hello. i was very interested to hear your take refreshing to hear that the fundamental cause of addiction is paid and the solution whether it's the dysfunctional solution or a societal solution would be providing bonding. i was just simply curious, have you -- do you have any familiarity with the sociologist rené brown and her work in the shame and the unspoken role that shame has in our society is almost a universal cause for disorder unhappiness and malcontent? i came across her work a number of years ago. she is also from texas and as you said you have had a chance to visit. it changed my life. to hear those words get again in a different context was something i felt like i wanted to take a moment and reference. >> you are the second to recommend this. i will definitely come i promise i will read it. >> a video on youtube a tedx talk that went viral. it was one of the most harrowing moments of her life to talk about shame because she herself is very introverted and struggles with it herself so there's a genuine nation -- nature to the way she comes across watching that was what led me to the rest of her work. >> there someone i wrote about in the book is a fascinating person. during the holocaust in the budapest ghetto there was a woman called judith marcase who is about to be murdered by the nazis. her parents have been murdered by the nazis in auschwitz but she didn't know it yet. she went up to christian stranger and to take my baby take him. the christian stranger did and that kid grew up to be a doctor and some people will know his work. he's a fantastic person. he started to work with hard-core addicts and what he noticed was there was one thing they all had in common. they all had horrific childhoods childhoods, sexual abuse physical abuse, far more then represented by the wider population. he himself had addictions. it was really pragmatic in his life. he would compulsively buy cds which you never listen to what is not quite crack addiction that he would abandon women in the middle of labor and go buy cds. he started think about the childhood chum he had and the childhood chum of these people. the adverse childhood experience study survey and they basically started -- on children and for every seriously traumatic event that happens to a child they are two to four% more likely to be an injecting drug user. what he explains as it's related to the shame they feel. when you are a kid the way we internalized the way our parents treatise. usually it's her mother piketty can be anyone. if you're upset and pain your mother reassures young columns you down. other times you reassure yourself. if you react to their crime with indifference or indeed hostility you will treat yourself like that as she that as you get older and you will be much more likely to need external soothing and external drugs. first i thought are these different theories but then it occurred to me if you go through childhood, it's much harder to trust the world. there a lot of people in the world that know this. you are much more likely to be isolated. shall we take a woman. hello. thank you for your question. >> i had a question about the u.n. convention on drugs and whether you had any opportunity to talk to anyone affiliated with the u.n. and changing policy internationally? >> yeah i interviewed the woman who used to be the head of one of the main u.n. drug agency's a british woman. the origins harry and slinger the man the place is rolling killing billie holliday was the crucial figure. he said i had made up my mind don't try to confuse me at the facts. and it's very important as global drug war is imposed from united states. the way it worked as at the end giving about mexico, mexico had a really good drug policy. they kept drug legal. there was a doctor and charge of drug policy. he said marijuana wasn't probably should treat alex with compassion. and mexico refuses so and slinger cut off off the supply for illegal opiates to mexican hospitals and they ripen and give me -- agony. britain resisted in some ways and basically the u.s. is dominant at the end of the second world war. it's one of a few things the u.s. and the soviet union agreed on. so these two superpowers unite to write this disaster, so the u.n. office of drug control is this body that imposes the drug war mainly funded by the u.s. under u.s. pressure. and one other thing about that analogy to the question but even the u.n. odc that threw me, if i said to you what proposed in -- proportion of currently illegal drug use doesn't do any harm to the user. you don't become addicted and don't have any health problems no harm at all it's 90% the overwhelming majority which is kind of hard to get your head around because if i said to you picture. ♪ user you picture yourself at a bar having a beer. if i say to you picture a cocaine user you picture an attic because the nature of the drug cocaine is no more likely to be addicts. it's because the drug war drives normal drug use underground so we don't see it. we just don't know about it. you would be pretty foolish if you were to come up to me and announce on facebook or anywhere that you are cocaine user. your boss is googling and you don't want that. so the drug war creates this weird effect to reinforce itself and distorts a picture of drug use that then needs the drug war itself. anyway that's my free association. >> we were talking to those folks. >> it's about talking to those guys and it the political change happens by talking to the people at the top. be honest i was never going to get that change. chomsky says he disagrees speaking truth to power. i don't need to tell the truth. he knows he is just a psycho. we don't need to tell the truth to those people. we need to make them change and the only way to do that is to bond together and demand it. >> a brilliant answer. thank you. [applause] >> i am doing a story right now about the impact of the war on drugs and a community that you call the ground zero for the war on drugs in baltimore and they are kind of addressing when he talked about how the conditions create the addictions and not the drugs. they are community that is kind of trying to keep the police away from what they are doing and the police have a new plan to send all these new officers into this community. are there other examples you know of for these types of holistic community-based efforts where community members are just trying to organize themselves prevent out the war on drugs is a federal policy but in baltimore to implement it by local law enforcement. i know there are laws in marijuana in maryland to decriminalize or legalize elsewhere but with heroin and harder drugs it seems like there's no end in sight. to legalize now were easing some of the punitive measures being faced. also the stats stuck out to me about how when you are rested one drug dealer there's so much more violence that results in it that and i know you said it's crazy to try to reason with people in power but it seems like people are just ignoring that her people in power are ignoring that are pretending that's not reality. >> that's a really interesting question. the best example is vancouver. a guy named matthew fogg i quote in the book a speech he gave. if you have got a law that is broken by half the population which the drug laws have been you can't put half of the population in prison. so what are you going to do? you are going to go to the most unpopular groups and he said in a speech he was a cop in d.c. and i'm paraphrasing. he basically went to his boss one day in said hey bost y. when we to drug raids do we only go to the black neighborhoods but i'm pretty sure whitefield to drugs. his boss said something like of course they do but why people get lawyers and why people know judges and white people know journalists. go for the low-hanging fruit. i'm all for moderate form but compassion in the framework of the drug war would get us very far. an incremental change is better. it improves one persons life really and i'm in favor of. i'm not one of these people who says things should stay bad to prove how bad they are. an incremental change is good but i don't tank, people say a shift in policing sure those things can be beneficial but ultimately if we have transferred drugs to armed criminal gangs and we have got drug lords against despised minorities is going to be awful. i'm sorry that's not more hopeful. and it's worth saying we talk about heroin legalization is different things for different drugs. no one wants there to be a crack i went to cvs. you have to understand that they have at the moment is anarchy. unknown criminals sell unknown chemicals to unknown users in the dark. we don't know what's going on. we already have so what we need to do is expand regulation legal preparation to cover that. we haven't done anything new. those webs of regulations exist for illegal drugs. we have one web for alcohol that i would encourage people to expand to cover cannabis and party drugs like ecstasy. we have a web of regulations by powerful sleeping pills at cvs much to my dismay because i have jet lag at the moment. that would have a preparation where you have to go doctor and to cover that you would cover things like heroin as they have been in switzerland so successfully. the things i crack and meth is hard to know. you might have an adaptation of the vancouver model for some safe spaces where you can use provided you didn't leave. but it's about, legalization doesn't mean and anarchic free-for-all. what we have now is anarchic free-for-all. legalization is a way of regulating and extending control. should we go to the next woman in the line. you are in fact the next one in line. >> i have a couple of questions. >> you want to just ask one because we have quite a few people. >> my question is came a little bit late so little bit wayside in the purity dresses but how did you come to this topic are your research and what is your background with drugs in your initial mentality before you started understand why drugs? 's been up to secretly we have addiction and my family and tranquilizer addiction and that was up to the national like a lot of people you have that background. i was eyes drawn to relationships with addicts and i was an on and off relationship with a person at a very good -- bad crack problem. >> would you consider the clinics in switzerland and also in vancouver to be analogous to methadone clinics are gigantic where -- or even nicotine patches? >> all those places prescribed it as well. the something as complex as human addiction you need to have a broad menu. anyone who says there's one solution to addiction and i found it and it's this is a charlatan and you should listen to them. addiction is complicated and different things will work for different people trade methadone should be on the menu abstinence-based treatment. there's a whole range of things. i don't want to take anything off the menu. i forgot to mention i've got to make in my speech. it's important to understand there is a chemical component to addiction. it's not like the story we are told is false. we actually know statistically from an experiment that people in this room would have taken part in what percentage is. we know menthol cigarettes are less addictive than tobacco cigarettes and a compelling part of tobacco is nicotine. when in the early 90s they invented nicotine patches there was this huge wave of optimism by officials who said great smoking is going to end because you get the drug you are addicted addicted to it that the filthy carcinogenic smoke. there are people wearing nicotine patches in this room wanting a cigarette. 17 the people that use nicotine patches can stop and 83% can't. that's also 17% is the camo component is enough to stop your addiction. that's a lot. you can stop 17% of smoking that's a huge number of lights. i'm not for a minute dismissing that the 70% is less than 83% and 83% as is all this other stuff we are talking about. there isn't that the woman next. let's just go for it. dan boozman. >> i like men but anyway. first of all thank you seriously. it's not just about the addiction are people who are seen as addicts. it's about the fact that you are creating a more vibrant conversation about pain in the human species and how is the human species we need to learn to face emotional pain and learn to deal with it and more intelligent ways because it affects all kinds of things. in baltimore county we have a school we call a consciousness school. we work with everything attics and non-addicts and all walks of life and we teach people how to bond with themselves. and with one another. we use holistic techniques medication breathing and movement and all kinds of things. i have the honor of being able to train what we call psychospiritual facilitators to help people people with these really departure themselves including addiction and not just addiction of substances but addiction to behaviors. i would just love to hear from you. i know what i say to people. i read your thing about love songs. you should be singing love songs to i know what i say to the people that i train. when i have a concern about whether loving these people too much is going to somehow make them codependent like to be manipulated by an addict. i know what i say to the people i train i would love to hear what you say. >> thank you for what you said and thank you for the work you do. it's a big question. when you are saying that i pictured the clinic in portugal they went to. i'm blanking on the name. the name is in the book. it was so amazing. i can't remember how much longer it was as i went to tent city in the chain gang. it was six months or something like that and there were all these addicts in this room and they were being massaged and taught to play trust games and how to express their feelings. i really wanted to fly back to arizona and grab those women take them to this clinic in portugal. i actually want to write more and research more about how we do the things were doing. come and talk to me afterwards because i would be really interested. i hate the concept of codependency. it's loving someone. you know that show called intervention. i think intervention is a deeply evil show. it is the importing of the drug were logic rate the idea that you should say it does connection is the main driver of addiction. the idea that you should say to addict i'm going to cut you off and we are always a group going to cut you off unless you go to rehab which by the way this worked very well. that's barbaric. that's the exact wrong thing to do. the thing to do with addicts in your life and this is very hard and i'm not saying it's easy and i find it reticular difficult for various reasons is to say ike unconditionally love you and whatever you do whether you were clean or whether you are using, what do you are sick or whether you are well i will always come and sit with you and be present with you. that's the only thing you can ever do that will help an addict and it will be really hard and a lot of the time you won't be able to stomach it but it's the only thing that's ever going to work. >> to develop a language that motioned codependency to love. >> thank you. >> we have time for two more questions. >> really am. hello. >> i'm currently homeless and a 2016 canada's mayor for baltimore. you have given me a lot of work to do for my platform including legalization of marijuana. my question to you is this which i find with any societal issue we have the money to do it tomorrow however if we end the war on drugs tomorrow with all of these great things that have been done in other countries where opposing capitalism. it's like trying to get the money out of politics so you are taking jobs away from billions of people in the prison industrial industrial complex etc. that facilitate the war on drugs so what are the steps to oppose that and eventually solve the problem? >> is a super interesting question. thank you. and i hope people vote for you. one the biggest backers of the anti-marijuana legalization california was the prison guards union and i found that so depressing. you are right some people will lose their jobs when in the wind drugs. order agents some cops although i can think of better things cops could be doing. prison guards. what i would say is let's retrain those people to provide compassionate love for attics. there are loads of stuff they can do. sometimes people say as well and this is a real concern actually. if you legalize it can have a huge number of young men who have made a reasonable living drug dealing. in some places is like taking general motors out of detroit. this is the case in baltimore. significant economic support. you would also be healing an enormous amount of devastation in the community with african-american men who are massively incarcerated. one thing it's very easy to lobby for his just pardons. governors governors and the president just a mass pardoning people for these harmless offenses. i don't think i totally answered your question but i got somewhere there. >> thank you. >> it's a man. hooray. you are going to give a really test us around question to compensate. >> i first want to say thank you for your talk. sort of piggybacking off of the last question there is a recent speaker here who wrote a book called drug war and capitalism boca singh on mexico and colombia superimposing this talk about the drug war on movements within the global capital and looking at in particular mexico where there is a correlation between the police and the cartels and a huge part of his labor organizers and people who are sitting on a really rich resources. again it's like literature on the influence of the private prison system in united states and how that benefits but also perpetuates the lobby for there were on drugs here could i wonder whether you think there is any sort of solution and the states without addressing that influence on politics and whether you did any research on the differences in places that do legalize drugs and comparing their prison industries and their influence as well? >> that's very interesting. there are loads of things to come out with that. one thing i thought of when he said that is a story i covered in the book. it's a crazy story and it tells you loads about the drug war. when drugs were first banned 100 years ago in 1914 there was a big loophole that went into the law. it said this doesn't cover addicts. they can go to the doctor and get their drugs. basically the swiss model and loads of doctors began prescribing heroin. that loophole was shut down by harry ansley state-by-state or when the last places to shut it down with california because it was popular. the mayor stands in front of the clinic and says you will not shut this down. the story of why was shut down in california turns out the local chinese drug gangs were really annoyed that a nevada drug addicts had to come and buy drugs from them but in california they could go to the doctor and get them. so they bribed the federal narcotics agents to introduce the drug war. they paid them to crack down. at the birth of the drug war armed criminal gangs are paying for it to be introduced or that tells you something about who benefits from the war on drugs. and you are totally right that dynamic is insane in mexico. i remember the guy who went to texas and have been unfortunate jack-in-the-box incident you know rosalia surprise somebody by saying of all the people i met for the book he was the one i felt the most sorry for beauty grew up in laredo on the texas side of the border which is basically the same the same side as the wave on the mexican side. when he was 13 days to go back and forth over the voter -- voter. between the ages of 13 and -- he killed people in ahead of them and horrendous stuff. he would talk about how in mexico he would go out with the police on his murder sometimes and they would accompany him. so you are right there is a nexus there. that's not like the united states in the same way. there some people who are conspiratorial and that's not the case in america. in terms of doing it to get the influence out of politics, yeah every problem this country can't be solved until you do deal with the corruption problem. why are we not dealing with local warming? why are we not dealing with the health care crisis. that is why obamacare isn't good but not that good so you're absolutely right. that's a much bigger question than just the drug war. you are absolutely right, we can do with the drug war without dealing with that. one last thing you asked what was the difference

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did i answer your question? >> i don't know very much about this issue. i haven't read the book yet but i was surprised that you said this was the only family camp. i thought they had their families. >> yes the full terminology in world war ii internment custodial detention was a rest and to be clear crystal city was the only family camp specifically designed for families. in other words they were just bothers there and all families. like at hart mountain they didn't have families style eating. they went to mess all something like that to and then of course it was the only multiple nationality family camp. the internees and crystal city that i interviewed including those at heart mountain and other places that's what they called it. this is a true family camp so language is kind of you know. >> understand crystal city was not close until 1948. is that correct? what was the reason for the approximately three three-year delay in closing the camp? >> you could just sort of thing about on time of day. went to have got them, what do you do with them? and it's sort of the same problem that obama has right now. the people that were left there that didn't have anyplace to go that hadn't yet repatriated there were lawsuits going on to try to keep some of the internees within head lawyers that were trying to stave united states so they weren't buying the ball and going anymore so it just took them out long to get rid of everybody. >> what kind of interaction if there was any went on between the different nationalities at the camp's? >> well you know the answer is they all went to the same swimming pool but pretty much they lived separately in the camp. they were mistrustful of each other. the japanese were mistrustful by woods say it's fair to say of the germans and vice versa. one of the reasons the geneva convention does not allow people and countries in wartime to put multiple people together is because of those conflicts and they certainly happened and that rings up a lot of the narrative of the camp. >> how many people were there in the camp with sumi and the other people? >> that's a really good question. over the course of 1942 to 1948 our best estimate is about 6000 but that was a low estimate is they stopped counting at a certain point. so it's about 6000. thank you for the question. >> why were these families exchanged and not just troops captured in war? >> why were they exchanged? >> why were the exchange and not enemy troops? weren't they the ones who are mainly exchanged? >> some of the people that came back were american prisoners of war and there were some other camps that word exchanged to an people in crystal city they just needed more people to exchange because roosevelt had a very vigorous policy so that families in crystal city had to be added. we didn't have enough german and japanese exchange. also the president was concerned concerned. he would have rather exchanged civilians that didn't have a whole lot of knowledge than. but they had a whole division in the state department called the special war problems division. this was a very special war problem so there really was a game of chess. the japanese and the germans had their chests and we had ours. >> one final question. i grew up in brady texas and there was a world war ii prison work camp in brady. several of the people who were interned ultimately ended up living in brady with married women from brady in integrating into the community. did any of that happen in this? >> absolutely. did any of them stay in crystal city? did any of the internees stay in crystal city? >> they have reunions all the time. i don't really think so. crystal city there were 13,000 people living in crystal city during this time. the highest number ever because it was a tiny little place. i want to thank you all for your incredible interest. i just think you especially old friends here and my aunt came from houston, my mother sister and all of you guys it's just great to see you and thank you so very very much. [applause] >> woody guthrie is most famous for his writing of this land is your land that he was much more than that. he was born in 1912 in okemah oklahoma so we are very proud to have his work back it up, where we think it belongs. he was an advocate for people who were disenfranchised, for those people who are migrant workers from oklahoma kansas and texas during the dust bowl era. they would find themselves in california literally starving and he saw this vast difference between those who were the haves and the have-nots and became their spokesman through his music. woody recorded very few songs of his own. we have a listening station that features 46 of his songs in his own voice. that is what makes the recordings that he did make so significant and so important to us. ♪ ♪ >> super thrilled to be hosting what i think is the first talk we have posted for a book blurbs by both gnome and chomsky and elton john. this blew my mind. so that is really also terribly exciting and finally i'm excited to have a book this is something new about the drug war. we all know the drug war is bad and awful. i don't need to tell you that if you are living in baltimore you'd know that the drug war is bad and awful. but it's really exciting with someone with the talent of writing and journalism like johann hari comes along talks to people figures out a way to tell the story in a way that makes us see new things and gives us a different lens than a different optic on something we know is horrible and in telling that story gives us a way to do with it and create a better future. i'm terribly excited to welcome him and i'm glad you all came out. [applause] >> thank you for coming. when the war on drugs is being launched the man who launched it harry anslinger said they were someplace in the world that proved more than any other that it was going to work. he said if you look at this place it would prove that if you cracked crack down hard enough if you are rested enough people if you are consistently tough drugs and drug gangs would disappear. that place was baltimore. how is it working out for you? i feel like before i start i should apologize for something which it might be able to tell from my voice i'm not from here. i've spent a lot of time in the u.s. and i have never felt self-conscious about it until i started this book. i went to tyler texas. i went to this hitman the only hitman that has made it out and lived to tell the story. he is in prison now. i went to a jack-in-the-box. do you know what it is? is like a fast food chain which is responsible for at least one of my chins. i went in and said to the women can i have my quarter with cheese and she said to me what? i said could i have a quarter with cheese and she said do you speak english? and i said matta my people invented it. [laughter] what i want to talk to you about as i said before is now 100 a year since drugs were first criminalized. i realize when they were coming up to the centenary i had a personal reason for wanting to think about it. we have drug addiction and my family. one of my earliest memories was trying to wake up my -- and not being able to. i realized even though the something going on for 100 years there were lots of basic questions that i didn't know the answer to and my teachers never told me and my government had never told me in your government had never told me to why were drugs banned in the first place? why do we carry on with the drug work proves that a lot of people think isn't working? what really causes drug use and drug addiction and what are the alternatives? we talk about in such an abstract way. it's like a philosophy seminar about how the world should be. i wanted to find out how it affects real people all over the world so i set out on a journey and i ended up going across nine countries 30,000 miles and spending time in talking with loads of different people from my transsexual crack dealer in brownsville brooklyn to a scientist who spent a lot of time beating hallucinogens to mongoose to see what happens. the only country in the world that has two criminalized all drugs with incredible results. the main take away is almost everything we think we know about the subject is wrong. drugs are not what we think they are. drug addiction is not what we think it is. the alternatives are not what we thought they were. i tell the story in the book through the stories of real people whose lives were changed one way or another by this war are the alternatives. i want to talk to you tonight about five or six of the people i talk about in the book. one of them is -- in the 1939 billie holliday stood on stage in new york city and she sang a song called strange fruits. it's a song against lynching. her daughter said to me you got to understand how shocking this was to have an african-american woman standing in front of a white audience in the hotel where she was not allowed to run run -- walk to the front door. she went to the service elevator singing a song against lynching. that night according to her biographer, billie holliday received a threat warning from the federal bureau of narcotics. they said stop singing this song song. the man who ran that girl was a guy called terry anslinger the most influential person anyone has heard of. he took over the department of prohibition just as alcohol prohibition is sending. and he had to find a new purpose for his department. he is driven by two really strong hatreds good one with a hatred of addicts and another was hatred of african-americans. this guy was regarded as a crazy racist by the crazy racist of the 1930s. billie holliday if you look at this writing he was obsessed. billie holliday was everything he hated. african-american women -- was a heroin addict and he thought jess was this mongrel evil music that was disordered and a sign of chaos and he would write these memos were he would listen to the lyrics. when he gets the motion he thinks he can break across the ocean and he said that is what they do think renee's heroin. bill is a -- billie holliday growth of the last city in essays that didn't have a sewage system. she grew up in an area called pig town which gives you some sense of how was seen. billie holliday learned something. she made her suffer promised. she was not allowed in the stores because she was an african-american pitcher promised herself she was never going to bow her head to anyone. when she gets the start from harry anslinger she says in fact screw you. i'm an american citizen that i will sing my song and do what i want and that's the point in which the stalking and killing of really holiday began. harry anslinger hated employing african-americans. it was kind of hard to send a white guy to harlem. would be kind of conspicuous. dewey fletcher's job was to follow billie holliday for two years a much everything she did. and he fell in love with billie holliday because she was so amazing. he was ashamed of what he did next. he busts her. she is on trial. she said the trial was called the united states versus billie holliday not to tell. she is sent to prison and button button -- billie holliday gift south she needed a license a cabaret performers license to perform anywhere that alcohol was certain i would give it to her. her friend said to me what is the cruelest thing you can do to a person? to take away the thing they love love. that's what we did a addicts all over the world today. a female chain gang in arizona had to wear a t-shirt wearing a t-shirt and digging graves. billie holliday and all that suffering relapses. when she's in her early 40s she collapses in new york. she's taken to a hospital. the hospital refuses to have her because she's a bad trade she says to one of her friends the mark connex agents are finished with her they're going to kill me in there. don't let them. they're going to kill me in there. on her hospital bed she is diagnosed with liver cancer. their roster in a hospital bed. they handcuff her to the hospital bed. i am to be the last man who is still alive that was in the room room, an incredible man. they take away her candies and her toys and she has and she goes into withdrawal. one of her friends insist that doctors give her methadone. she starts her cover. 10 days later they took the methadone and she died. whatever friend said she felt like she'd she had been vitally registered from mike. here's the thing billie holliday insists on singing her song creature would go anywhere they have her no matter what they did. she always sang and it really helped me to think about the attics of my life. if we are honest there's a bit of a drug warrior and all of a sudden a bit of all of us that thinks someone stops you and feels angry some of the time. help me to know that addicts can be heroes. her friend abby ross billie holliday's friend said to me billie holliday was not week. billie holliday was a stronger she could be. i wanted to understand how those dynamics continued into today and i was introduced to someone, one of the best people i know a former transsexual crack dealer in brownsville brooklyn. chino was conceived in 1980 when his mother was raped by his father who was an nypd officer. he's a child of the drug were in the purest sense and deborah his mother nothing was done to prevent the transmission of aids among drug users and the thing that did help to prevent the spread the distribution of -- was a crime under the drug. now you act. so his mother dies. when these 13 he becomes a crack dealer on the corner. chino helped me understand the dynamics with drug dealing. i guess it was a liquor store on the street. if we go into that liquor store any of us tonight and we try to steal vodka and i apologize if you feel like doing that after a speak they will call the cops and the cops will take us away. that liquor store doesn't need to be violent. if we go to a local weed dealer or coke dealer and we tried to steal their goods they can't call the police. the police will come and arrest them. they have got to be terrifying. they have to fight you are till you out and established a reputation to be so bad that you wouldn't dare take them on. she had to learn to be terrified. chino had to shoot at people and be aggressive and violent. the sociologist for the bush lies of the prohibition culture of terror. this is got nothing to do with drugs. if you banned milk and people still want to buy milk exactly the same dynamic would happen. this is not about drugs. this is about prohibition. you'll notice that the liquor store where they are the people who work in the drinks aisle at walmart that never happens. under alcohol prohibition they work under each other. what happens is chino starts to rise to the crips. he is sent to a youth prison detention facility. it cost a million dollars a year. i don't know if there's anyone here that could think of what we could do for $1 million a year. if you have any ideas i'm happy to talk about them. chino rices his whole life is malformed. he starts using crack as he put it to me because i wanted to know what my mother chose over me. when chino was in his early 20s he gets out of prison and search to read about the drug war and you discover something that blows his mind. this is not a lurid nature. this isn't something that just happens in the world is not like the tsunami. it's not like a hurricane. this is a political choice. what happened to chino's mother will happen to chino his life in the rikers all of that did not happen. chino became a campaigner against the war on drugs. his first campaign was to shut down the youth prison he was put in and he succeeded. spar for it no longer exists. chino was an articulate in explaining how much this is still about what it was about with billie holliday. he also kind of judy garland was a heroin addict that he told julie garland to take longer vacations until the studio she was going to be fine. 70% of the people who sell drugs in the united states are african-american and make up 65 or senata people go to prison for it. just outside baltimore at the same time chino was selling on this block a person called lee maddox was standing on the i-95. lee maddox was a cop and she was arresting anyone she could find that she suspected of being a drug user. lee had long hair and a hot temper. her job was to get numbers. if she knew a few busted people the cops get to keep 80% of everything they take. if they find your coke in your car that can take your car away and it was paying her wages. lee could not have been a stronger believer on the war on drugs. her best friend lisa who used to share a -- and a look-alike was murdered why what she believed was a drug gang. she signed on to be a cop with one reason in mind to destroy drug gangs. but lee is an honest person and you notice something. when you are caught if you arrest a rapist the next week there is less -- in your town. if you arrest a dealer it's always someone else on the corner but if you bust dealers the murder rate asked the goes up. he was like why would this be? how can that be? what she discovered is chino establishes a reputation. he controls his blog. if you kill or arrest chino you trigger a war between rival gangs. he started turf war. huge numbers of people are killed in these turf wars. there are 10,000 deaths figure in the united states. three 9/11's and they're not just dealers. there are stories in my book about a 3-year-old girl playing on her stoop in west baltimore gets hit in the crossfire. he didn't know what to do with this. another of her best friends and agent who believe strongly in the drug war goes to an undercover drug bust and be shot by the dealer who just thought he was another dealer. and we goes and looks at his body and she thinks i can do this anymore. lee put the police force and retrain civil lawyer and now she spends her time getting convictions wherever she can for the drug arrest she did as a cop. lee is actually here today and i'm so proud to know her. she's an extraordinary person. [applause] i wanted to know what life is like on the supply route. this dynamic we are talking about as charles boutin writer put it the war on drugs and the war for drugs. that's horrific in a lot of places and in the city is one of the worst. there's one city i can think of for it's even worse, the city of forest. most drugs run through the border of texas in el paso. they would stay in el paso because it's not safe to stay in war as in every morning i would walk across the bridge. if you walk across the ridge it feels like an american city. there's a kfc in a denny's. you can buy a flat-screen tv. murder is effectively legalized. there's a two-person murder conviction rate in juarez and that 2% didn't do it. the way it helps me to understand the story of what has happened there is a story of mary seller. she never used drugs are like no one in her life used or sold drugs that she happened to live in -- she had a daughter named ruby who is 14 years old. one day a guy turns up at her woodwork store called sergei. he turns up because i have a kid, i did some work. have you got anything i can do? mary was a soft-hearted pertinence of -- person so she decides to give him a job. he starts to flirt with her 14-year-old daughter and she is like get out of here. ruby runs a way to go with sir j. and mary goes to the police and she says this guy is 21 and he is having an affair with my daughter is 14. the police did nothing and she is a bit puzzled. she is angered and her daughter won't come back. her daughter gets pregnant and married his heart broken. ruby has a baby. one day marisela turns up in ruby is not there. but her baby as they are and sir j. says ruby ran away. she went off with another man. marisela says no she didn't run off with another man and be for child with you. no she wouldn't do that. he said well that's what happened. marisela decides to distribute leaflets all over juarez saying abc my daughter? a kit and he's terrified. she has to drive out to the desert with him and he says to her by helps dispose of your daughter's body. sir j. killed her and i can tell you where he dumped the body. she goes and she finds the bits of her daughter's body. she goes to the police and the police won't do anything and she still doesn't understand quite why. marisela eventually campaigns and manages to get him in trial. in he breaks down and apologizes to her and he admits what he did did. two weeks later he is acquitted and he disappeared. marisela discovers the sergei worked for the mexican drug cartel. gimp in the housing project in armed criminal gangs selling drugs. the housing project is going to be a lousy place to live by 17% of economy of juarez is illegal drugs. when i first went there i was shown around by the reuters correspondent. i said this is important. he said you don't understand when the cartel wants to kill someone they pay the police to do. marisela would not accept that there was no justice in the age of prohibition. she would not accept it. .. desert and after three years she finds them. she goes to the police. and they go away again. and she goes and stands outside the governor's mansion and she leads a protest and she has become a symbol of everything. she stands outside and she makes this amazing speech about how people in mexico deserve justice. and in front of all of the police a man walks up and shoots her in the head. and a woman whose wages you pay the head of the drug enforcement agency, was asked about the 60,000 deaths of civilians in the last seven years and i urge you to look it up. she said that it was a sign of success on the war on drugs and when i went and talked to her i said to her stay with me with what she said. i said were your friends and she said we were terrified that sometimes your love is stronger than your fair. and it's something in the hope of that so i contrasted what she said that really stayed with me. another thing i wanted to understand was what causes drug addiction. if you would've said to me four years ago i would've said heroin causes heroin addiction. for 100 years we've been told a story that is so obvious that it has become part of our common sense. and we think that the first 20 people [inaudible] that we would physically need hair when that we would physically crave it. and that there may be something wrong with that theory and if any of us stepped out into the street and are hit by a car and we break, we will be taken to the hospital and it's likely that we will be given a lot of morphine which is harrowing. it's much better than street heroin which is five or 10%. you will be given out for a long time, that has happened at johns hopkins in any university in baltimore, it's happened at every hospital in the united states and the developed world people are being given a lot. and he wouldn't know is that your grandmother was not turned into a junkie by her hip operation. it's what we think about, if it's right, those people should be leaving as addicts but that doesn't happen. and so i didn't know what to do with it because it seems so weird. we talked to a man named bruce alexander and he explained to me that the addiction, the one that i believe has a series of experiments that were done early in the 20th century as few can go home and do them yourself, you get a rat and you put it in a cage and give it to water bottles, one is water and one is with heroin or cocaine. if you do that the rat will almost prefer the drug and almost always kill itself. so there you go addiction confirmed. until 1970 one individual says wait a minute, it's got nothing to do let's try this differently, so keep this experiment, he built rat park. it's got friends, tunnels, everything they could want in rat park and of course they tried this because they didn't know what was in it. but in rat park, they don't like the drug him and they hardly ever use it, none of them ever overdose, none of them ever use it in a way that looks compulsive i think there's a human experiment all around about this do what he does is he says this is the right wing theory that is flawed and the lettering theory is that it takes you over and hijacks your brain. he says that it's not a morality and it's not your brain. addiction is an adaptation to your environment. there was a fascinating experiment going on at the same time called the vietnam war 20% of american troops were using this. if you look at reports from the time they were really worried. they were like my goodness, all of these people are going to come back and we are going to have hundreds of thousands on the street. what happened? all of the study show that they came back and almost all of them just stopped. they did not go into rehab or withdraw they stopped because they got taken out of the jungle where you don't want to be and it's a nightmare and you could get killed at any moment, you go back to your nice life with your friends and your family and the equivalent had been taken out and be put into the second. and so i was in the war on drugs was based on the idea that the chemicals cause of the addiction and we need to physically eradicate them. so i don't think that's possible physically to eradicate these chemicals, we cannot keep drugs out as easily. we pay a lot of people good luck keeping it out of the united states, but you can at least understand that that has a philosophical appearance. but if that is not what causes addiction, the vast majority believe that those don't become addictive, it is isolation and pain, it is also the drug war that is built on the idea that what we should do without it is inflict more isolation and pain on them. in that reason they took me to this solitary confinement and there are desperate addicted women and i suddenly thought this is the closest you are ever going to get to a human reenactment of the cage that guarantees addiction. when they get out the site with billie holiday, they won't be able to work or do the things that they love. and i think it has deep philosophical applications. a guy says we shouldn't use the word addiction but bonding. human beings have an innate need to bond and the bond that we have is mostly with each other. but if you are deprived of the ability to bond with each other whether you're traumatized or cut off or humiliated or isolated, you will bond with something that gives you pleasure, that might be a roulette wheel but you will bond with something and if we want people to give up their bond, the moment that we talk about this we talk about how this could be individual recovery and we need to talk more about social recovery as well, something has gone wrong not with just individuals but a group. we have created a society where he number of our fellow citizens cannot bear to be present without being heavily medicated. the telling you to stories about the end of the war on drugs. good news, the war on drugs has begun to end. and i went to the places where it has begun to end. i thought that if i go there and it didn't work it could be the most oppressive and book ever written. but actually what i saw blew my mind. in the year 2000 the same time that we were standing outside baltimore a man called bud osborne was living on the streets near downtown vancouver. they have the worst concentration of attic in america. it was reported that the place at the end of the line people called it the terminal city. his friends were dying all around. so if you start to overdose, no one else sees you your body is found two days later. bob said that i have to do something about this, i cannot just watch all my friends die. and he also thought what can i do, i am a homeless street at and he had a very small and simple idea he got together the addicts and died when we are not using why don't we patrol the alleyways and have a timetable and if we spot someone, we will call an ambulance. and they started to do it. and a few months past and the overdose rate started to fall. that was great in itself but it also meant that the addicts got to think of themselves differently. and so they said they started to go to public meetings about the menace of the addicts and they would sit in the back and listen and they would say i think the were talking about us. and sometimes people would be really angry and they would say things like you leave your needles lying around. they say that is fine, we will extend it to collect them at the end of every day. then bob learned about frankfurt, germany. a place that you could go we could use heroin and then they said we are going to make it happen and they started to talk about this. picture that romney. a wealthy right-wing businessman. and they started to follow him everywhere they went saying that addicts will be taken to a local military base. and they started to follow him everywhere they went and they carried a coffin and the coffin said something like he will die and this goes on for two years and they start to get disillusioned because nothing is changing and people are still dying in huge numbers. one thing he said is that who are these people. and he just spends a lot of time with addicts. and his mind is blown. he had no idea. and so i learned when it comes back to this i hold a press conference and is the chief of police and corner, he has a chance to sam never going to talk about addiction again because they understand it better than anyone and we are going to openness first room in north america and have the most compassionate drug policy is in the things are going to change. they open the first injection room and they are so horrified. so there's a right-wing candidate in that candidate is beaten by a more liberal candidate who wins and keeps it open. the result are in 10 years later. overdose has gone by 80% and an average life expectancy has improved by 10 years. he only get stats like that at the end of the war which his likeness. bob died last year and he was only in his early 60s. but it takes a toll on you. they sealed off the streets to have a memorial service enormous crowds of people came and huge numbers of people knew that they were only alive because of what he had done. they think they are powerless and what can they do i want to tell you that you are so much more powerful than what you know. and this includes the saving of thousands of people's lives. it can never be taken away now. he did that by starting monday on one street with a bunch of alex. and i also wanted to go to the only place in the world that decriminalize all drugs from cannabis to crack and i wanted to the story about this. portugal had one of the worst drug problems in europe. 1% of the population. .. to be fair to them a stop on the panel comes back and says decriminalize everything but then here's the crucial next step, take all the money we currently spend on arresting drug users trying and imprisoning drug users. let's use all that money on really good judge treatment and it's mostly not what we t the biggest things hab and some of it is psychological support hugely valuable. the biggest thing is -- we could all be drinking vodka now. why are we? is because we have got something to do. we have meaning and purpose in our lives. we have things who want to be present for in our lives. the bully wants to be present for. game of the portuguese to criminalization was to make sure that every addict in portugal had something to get out of bed for so the biggest element of the program of subsidized jobs. say you had a problem and he used to be a mechanic. when you are ready they say if you employ this guy for a year we will pay half his wages. or microloans or groups of attics to sell businesses. the group of 15 attics addicts have this incredible support group. if you are one and 14 that have relapsed the other guys have a strong incentive to support you and get you clean. and it's been 14 years now and again the results are in. injecting drug use is down by 50% in portugal. although studies show addiction is down trade overdoses massively down and a guy named and i can't say portuguese names iis get them wrong. he led the campaign against the criminalization. he was the talk -- top drug cop in portugal and he is what a lot of people watching as we think and if you are criminalized will have all sorts of problems. and i'm paraphrasing everything i said would happen didn't happen everything the other side said what happened at any talk to me about how ashamed he was that he spent 20 years arresting and harassing drug users read and he hoped the whole world followed portugal's example. i don't want to get to -- i knew but i believe i've seen the future and it works. you know to wars began in 1914 two global wars. one is the war on drugs that hasn't ended and what is the first world war which lasted it it -- to 40 years. you know that some aging -- amazing images of the great enormity and france with all these graves stretched out for miles and miles. try to imagine if all the people from the war on drugs were buried in one place who would be there. you would have billie holliday and the song son she never got to sing. you would have leaves friends lisa and dead. he would have loved friend to die behind dumpsters. he would have a lot of people who were loved by people in this room. we have got a choice. we have got another century. we can fill that graveyard with far more people or we can choose a policy of love and compassion that will save a huge number of those lives. it's up to us now. thank you. thanks very much. [applause] so any questions? >> we have time for some q&a so if you would like to ask a question there are mics in the aisle right now. please line up and use the microphones. >> i would say two things, almost all the questions have been firm men so i'm going to police is that we have half women. you think there's a connection on the war on drugs and alien to my buddy meant illegal aliens and i started giving an answer like evil smuggling and mexican cartels. he said i mean extraterrestrials. i don't think extraterrestrials exist and he was horrified so as long as your question about that i will be very happy. if anyone wants to come because it's being filmed. if you just want to ask a question and come to the microphone. >> you mentioned a country that is legalize all drugs i believe. can you describe the country and how is that working out? as far as helping society and young people and how are they being educated for its usage? >> is an important distinction. decriminalization means you don't punish people for using. legalization into established a legal route to getting the drugs to portugal made decriminalize and it deals with some of the problems about others. the way i explain it is they shot down orange to the new black but they still have breaking bad traits i went to a country where they legalize heroin. i am also a swiss citizen in switzerland legalize heroin. this is really shocking because switzerland is really a right-wing country. when i was talking to someone about the war on drugs. he said i know we should do about the war on drugs. we should -- is that we are book is about? if you are a heroin addict you go to a doctor in the doctor will refer to the clinic and did not clinic you can go wherever you want to go and they will give you heroin. they will give you of whatever doesn't care when you asked for and you can't take it out with you but you can be given at there. one was unexpected. so they could carry on for as long as they want with a heroin and she's like yeah but the fascinating thing is almost everyone because their life stabilizes with the chaos of street is having to scramble for street use and all the prostitution most of them start to get their life together. they get jobs and they choose to reduce the heroin because their reality gets better. they choose to stay in reality longer and 70% of swiss people voted to keep that policy. probably because they're so much less street crime. street prostitution in to. there was much less mugging, much less violence so there was legalization. can we take a woman? i promise we'll we will come to you. thank you. hello. >> i work for a provider agency that does community-based alternatives for kids in juvenile detention. we use a rapper and advocacy approach. it's all about connections to you are helping to impose peace but last week that was in pennsylvania and harrisburg at the capitol talking to a legislator who very clearly was like people are attics and they make those choices and we have to punish them. what is a narrative that we can use for those of us whose experience tell us what you're saying in your book that we can use for naysayers and things like back? or positions of authority and power to make those changes? >> you may think it's like fluffy or feel-good or you want to have a thug kind of than what i think is great. >> that is sorely needed and really important. i guess what i would say is we have had a massive dehumanization and american britain and other places. there's no other minority i can think of where when they die lots of people say they brought it on themselves bear member went and the whitehouse guide or the kid from glee lots of people were saying they brought it on themselves. even a person at alton john guide wouldn't say good. it would be really extreme if they did that. it's about humanizing addicts and telling the story so it's about people coming out. like how did we change? 1963 the riots, two theaters in in -- 2000 years ago people were being persecuted. the defenders of people the pro-position was to say they are not evil, they are sick. that was the pro-position in people toga stories that people in their lives and incredibly people all over the world said i'm and i'm not the way you think i am. so partly stories about it coming out like you have black lives matter which is hugely important. i think we need the message addicts lives better. when the horrendous things i did for the book was i went to arizona the place about the chain gang and i interviewed to -- who works in prison right. tell me about something that shocked you. and she went through this long list list. somewhere down the who is she said there was a time i put that woman in the cage and cooked her. that was bad. i do the facial expression like you'd guys did just then today said sorry donna could you go back a second? there was a woman named marsha powell. she kept being arrested for having math or for prostituting herself to get mad. in her early 40s and one day she was in a prison and she was suicidal. the doctor didn't believe she was suicidal but to punish her for making noise they took her and put her in this cage in arizona, and exposed cage in the desert. and they left her there and she screamed and she begged for water and the guards mocked her and eventually she collapsed him by the time they called an ambulance she had been cooked. no one was ever criminally punished because addicts lives don't matter in our culture. and when they found the father of her children got the story of her life which is heartbreaking like billie holliday. she was a prostitute as a child. i think it's partly about explaining addiction is caused by pain and we need to tell a lot more real stories of real addicts and you know i think most people are pretty compassionate. most people are decent people and most americans had gold of you. if tell the stories i think that vindictive lets cook them in cages mentality will not thrive. thank you. thanks. hi. hello. >> i was wondering if you decriminalized everything in portugal do you think that the differences in american society that the same thing would work in the united states because it's a larger country with a more diverse society and social problems that they are lots of it in portugal? >> professor jeffrey miron said if you add up all the money spent on the drug weren't over taxes you would raise from drag jack city tax them the way we tax alcohol you would have ordered $3 billion a year. you could do what portugal did on steroids for $43 billion a year. that's an enormous sum of money so yeah transferring the money from something that makes addiction worse to something that helps people to turn around their lives absolutely would work. of course the details of the different than what works in mississippi may not work on the upper east side. we need to experience cautiously and be humble and say some of it will work in some of a while but i have to think it would work united states. we have parties in the legalization of marijuana in colorado and washington could i tell the story of how that incredible campaign by fantastic people was one in colorado. i think that's the short answer. can we go to a woman next? hello, come forward. i'm sorry, the light is blinding me. i literally couldn't see you at all. >> i've a question on the process of researching and i'm wondering the broader connections that you made great how much of that became clear as you are traversing geographic space and how much was part and parcel of the at analysis? >> no one asked me about the process of writing the book. i'm so happy. amygdala's book the riders like it if anyone wants to be a writer pleased by that book. it's amazing. has a brief analysis from thoreau. apparently i know nothing about nature either. apparently they want to find to be hibernate on the word is you look for a big jar catch the b. and hold that they're permanent. if you open the jar that be will freak out and find the direction of the hive so you cheese -- chased to be you lose it and catch another another be left that wants another be let that one can only do that 10 or 15 times you find the hive. that was basically the process of writing my book. i started with a list of people who i thought were interesting on the subject and i said well should i talk to? i found lee and i found so many people. it was a really fascinating process that led me and sometimes you would speak to a chain of nine people. you didn't get anything ported suddenly i would find lee. so that's the process. hi. >> hello. i was very interested to hear your take refreshing to hear that the fundamental cause of addiction is paid and the solution whether it's the dysfunctional solution or a societal solution would be providing bonding. i was just simply curious, have you -- do you have any familiarity with the sociologist rené brown and her work in the shame and the unspoken role that shame has in our society is almost a universal cause for disorder unhappiness and malcontent? i came across her work a number of years ago. she is also from texas and as you said you have had a chance to visit. it changed my life. to hear those words get again in a different context was something i felt like i wanted to take a moment and reference. >> you are the second to recommend this. i will definitely come i promise i will read it. >> a video on youtube a tedx talk that went viral. it was one of the most harrowing moments of her life to talk about shame because she herself is very introverted and struggles with it herself so there's a genuine nation -- nature to the way she comes across watching that was what led me to the rest of her work. >> there someone i wrote about in the book is a fascinating person. during the holocaust in the budapest ghetto there was a woman called judith marcase who is about to be murdered by the nazis. her parents have been murdered by the nazis in auschwitz but she didn't know it yet. she went up to christian stranger and to take my baby take him. the christian stranger did and that kid grew up to be a doctor and some people will know his work. he's a fantastic person. he started to work with hard-core addicts and what he noticed was there was one thing they all had in common. they all had horrific childhoods childhoods, sexual abuse physical abuse, far more then represented by the wider population. he himself had addictions. it was really pragmatic in his life. he would compulsively buy cds which you never listen to what is not quite crack addiction that he would abandon women in the middle of labor and go buy cds. he started think about the childhood chum he had and the childhood chum of these people. the adverse childhood experience study survey and they basically started -- on children and for every seriously traumatic event that happens to a child they are two to four% more likely to be an injecting drug user. what he explains as it's related to the shame they feel. when you are a kid the way we internalized the way our parents treatise. usually it's her mother piketty can be anyone. if you're upset and pain your mother reassures young columns you down. other times you reassure yourself. if you react to their crime with indifference or indeed hostility you will treat yourself like that as she that as you get older and you will be much more likely to need external soothing and external drugs. first i thought are these different theories but then it occurred to me if you go through childhood, it's much harder to trust the world. there a lot of people in the world that know this. you are much more likely to be isolated. shall we take a woman. hello. thank you for your question. >> i had a question about the u.n. convention on drugs and whether you had any opportunity to talk to anyone affiliated with the u.n. and changing policy internationally? >> yeah i interviewed the woman who used to be the head of one of the main u.n. drug agency's a british woman. the origins harry and slinger the man the place is rolling killing billie holliday was the crucial figure. he said i had made up my mind don't try to confuse me at the facts. and it's very important as global drug war is imposed from united states. the way it worked as at the end giving about mexico, mexico had a really good drug policy. they kept drug legal. there was a doctor and charge of drug policy. he said marijuana wasn't probably should treat alex with compassion. and mexico refuses so and slinger cut off off the supply for illegal opiates to mexican hospitals and they ripen and give me -- agony. britain resisted in some ways and basically the u.s. is dominant at the end of the second world war. it's one of a few things the u.s. and the soviet union agreed on. so these two superpowers unite to write this disaster, so the u.n. office of drug control is this body that imposes the drug war mainly funded by the u.s. under u.s. pressure. and one other thing about that analogy to the question but even the u.n. odc that threw me, if i said to you what proposed in -- proportion of currently illegal drug use doesn't do any harm to the user. you don't become addicted and don't have any health problems no harm at all it's 90% the overwhelming majority which is kind of hard to get your head around because if i said to you picture. ♪ user you picture yourself at a bar having a beer. if i say to you picture a cocaine user you picture an attic because the nature of the drug cocaine is no more likely to be addicts. it's because the drug war drives normal drug use underground so we don't see it. we just don't know about it. you would be pretty foolish if you were to come up to me and announce on facebook or anywhere that you are cocaine user. your boss is googling and you don't want that. so the drug war creates this weird effect to reinforce itself and distorts a picture of drug use that then needs the drug war itself. anyway that's my free association. >> we were talking to those folks. >> it's about talking to those guys and it the political change happens by talking to the people at the top. be honest i was never going to get that change. chomsky says he disagrees speaking truth to power. i don't need to tell the truth. he knows he is just a psycho. we don't need to tell the truth to those people. we need to make them change and the only way to do that is to bond together and demand it. >> a brilliant answer. thank you. [applause] >> i am doing a story right now about the impact of the war on drugs and a community that you call the ground zero for the war on drugs in baltimore and they are kind of addressing when he talked about how the conditions create the addictions and not the drugs. they are community that is kind of trying to keep the police away from what they are doing and the police have a new plan to send all these new officers into this community. are there other examples you know of for these types of holistic community-based efforts where community members are just trying to organize themselves prevent out the war on drugs is a federal policy but in baltimore to implement it by local law enforcement. i know there are laws in marijuana in maryland to decriminalize or legalize elsewhere but with heroin and harder drugs it seems like there's no end in sight. to legalize now were easing some of the punitive measures being faced. also the stats stuck out to me about how when you are rested one drug dealer there's so much more violence that results in it that and i know you said it's crazy to try to reason with people in power but it seems like people are just ignoring that her people in power are ignoring that are pretending that's not reality. >> that's a really interesting question. the best example is vancouver. a guy named matthew fogg i quote in the book a speech he gave. if you have got a law that is broken by half the population which the drug laws have been you can't put half of the population in prison. so what are you going to do? you are going to go to the most unpopular groups and he said in a speech he was a cop in d.c. and i'm paraphrasing. he basically went to his boss one day in said hey bost y. when we to drug raids do we only go to the black neighborhoods but i'm pretty sure whitefield to drugs. his boss said something like of course they do but why people get lawyers and why people know judges and white people know journalists. go for the low-hanging fruit. i'm all for moderate form but compassion in the framework of the drug war would get us very far. an incremental change is better. it improves one persons life really and i'm in favor of. i'm not one of these people who says things should stay bad to prove how bad they are. an incremental change is good but i don't tank, people say a shift in policing sure those things can be beneficial but ultimately if we have transferred drugs to armed criminal gangs and we have got drug lords against despised minorities is going to be awful. i'm sorry that's not more hopeful. and it's worth saying we talk about heroin legalization is different things for different drugs. no one wants there to be a crack i went to cvs. you have to understand that they have at the moment is anarchy. unknown criminals sell unknown chemicals to unknown users in the dark. we don't know what's going on. we already have so what we need to do is expand regulation legal preparation to cover that. we haven't done anything new. those webs of regulations exist for illegal drugs. we have one web for alcohol that i would encourage people to expand to cover cannabis and party drugs like ecstasy. we have a web of regulations by powerful sleeping pills at cvs much to my dismay because i have jet lag at the moment. that would have a preparation where you have to go doctor and to cover that you would cover things like heroin as they have been in switzerland so successfully. the things i crack and meth is hard to know. you might have an adaptation of the vancouver model for some safe spaces where you can use provided you didn't leave. but it's about, legalization doesn't mean and anarchic free-for-all. what we have now is anarchic free-for-all. legalization is a way of regulating and extending control. should we go to the next woman in the line. you are in fact the next one in line. >> i have a couple of questions. >> you want to just ask one because we have quite a few people. >> my question is came a little bit late so little bit wayside in the purity dresses but how did you come to this topic are your research and what is your background with drugs in your initial mentality before you started understand why drugs? 's been up to secretly we have addiction and my family and tranquilizer addiction and that was up to the national like a lot of people you have that background. i was eyes drawn to relationships with addicts and i was an on and off relationship with a person at a very good -- bad crack problem. >> would you consider the clinics in switzerland and also in vancouver to be analogous to methadone clinics are gigantic where -- or even nicotine patches? >> all those places prescribed it as well. the something as complex as human addiction you need to have a broad menu. anyone who says there's one solution to addiction and i found it and it's this is a charlatan and you should listen to them. addiction is complicated and different things will work for different people trade methadone should be on the menu abstinence-based treatment. there's a whole range of things. i don't want to take anything off the menu. i forgot to mention i've got to make in my speech. it's important to understand there is a chemical component to addiction. it's not like the story we are told is false. we actually know statistically from an experiment that people in this room would have taken part in what percentage is. we know menthol cigarettes are less addictive than tobacco cigarettes and a compelling part of tobacco is nicotine. when in the early 90s they invented nicotine patches there was this huge wave of optimism by officials who said great smoking is going to end because you get the drug you are addicted addicted to it that the filthy carcinogenic smoke. there are people wearing nicotine patches in this room wanting a cigarette. 17 the people that use nicotine patches can stop and 83% can't. that's also 17% is the camo component is enough to stop your addiction. that's a lot. you can stop 17% of smoking that's a huge number of lights. i'm not for a minute dismissing that the 70% is less than 83% and 83% as is all this other stuff we are talking about. there isn't that the woman next. let's just go for it. dan boozman. >> i like men but anyway. first of all thank you seriously. it's not just about the addiction are people who are seen as addicts. it's about the fact that you are creating a more vibrant conversation about pain in the human species and how is the human species we need to learn to face emotional pain and learn to deal with it and more intelligent ways because it affects all kinds of things. in baltimore county we have a school we call a consciousness school. we work with everything attics and non-addicts and all walks of life and we teach people how to bond with themselves. and with one another. we use holistic techniques medication breathing and movement and all kinds of things. i have the honor of being able to train what we call psychospiritual facilitators to help people people with these really departure themselves including addiction and not just addiction of substances but addiction to behaviors. i would just love to hear from you. i know what i say to people. i read your thing about love songs. you should be singing love songs to i know what i say to the people that i train. when i have a concern about whether loving these people too much is going to somehow make them codependent like to be manipulated by an addict. i know what i say to the people i train i would love to hear what you say. >> thank you for what you said and thank you for the work you do. it's a big question. when you are saying that i pictured the clinic in portugal they went to. i'm blanking on the name. the name is in the book. it was so amazing. i can't remember how much longer it was as i went to tent city in the chain gang. it was six months or something like that and there were all these addicts in this room and they were being massaged and taught to play trust games and how to express their feelings. i really wanted to fly back to arizona and grab those women take them to this clinic in portugal. i actually want to write more and research more about how we do the things were doing. come and talk to me afterwards because i would be really interested. i hate the concept of codependency. it's loving someone. you know that show called intervention. i think intervention is a deeply evil show. it is the importing of the drug were logic rate the idea that you should say it does connection is the main driver of addiction. the idea that you should say to addict i'm going to cut you off and we are always a group going to cut you off unless you go to rehab which by the way this worked very well. that's barbaric. that's the exact wrong thing to do. the thing to do with addicts in your life and this is very hard and i'm not saying it's easy and i find it reticular difficult for various reasons is to say ike unconditionally love you and whatever you do whether you were clean or whether you are using, what do you are sick or whether you are well i will always come and sit with you and be present with you. that's the only thing you can ever do that will help an addict and it will be really hard and a lot of the time you won't be able to stomach it but it's the only thing that's ever going to work. >> to develop a language that motioned codependency to love. >> thank you. >> we have time for two more questions. >> really am. hello. >> i'm currently homeless and a 2016 canada's mayor for baltimore. you have given me a lot of work to do for my platform including legalization of marijuana. my question to you is this which i find with any societal issue we have the money to do it tomorrow however if we end the war on drugs tomorrow with all of these great things that have been done in other countries where opposing capitalism. it's like trying to get the money out of politics so you are taking jobs away from billions of people in the prison industrial industrial complex etc. that facilitate the war on drugs so what are the steps to oppose that and eventually solve the problem? >> is a super interesting question. thank you. and i hope people vote for you. one the biggest backers of the anti-marijuana legalization california was the prison guards union and i found that so depressing. you are right some people will lose their jobs when in the wind drugs. order agents some cops although i can think of better things cops could be doing. prison guards. what i would say is let's retrain those people to provide compassionate love for attics. there are loads of stuff they can do. sometimes people say as well and this is a real concern actually. if you legalize it can have a huge number of young men who have made a reasonable living drug dealing. in some places is like taking general motors out of detroit. this is the case in

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of flaky way. they mean that they find some kind of practice or practices whether it's buddhist meditation, calligraphy, judo, architecture, tea ceremonies they do daily practice that helps them persevere in the face of suffering and the practicality of it is so beautiful. and i was also inspired by the children they honored the mysterious father and mother and they never lost country in what had betrayed them. the officials at crystal city the schoolteacher is and the gardeners and other individuals and staff members help to save the national honor by treating them humanely in a treacherous time. finally a jewish girl from amsterdam, who is freed from the bergen-belsen concentration camp in the january 1945 trade, the same trade that ingrid was on provided the seminal lesson for me about how we might deal with people in times of war. all of us remember this. enemies are people whose stories you have not yet heard and whose faces you have never seen. my gratitude goes to the characters in my book. but after 72 years, having the courage to tell their story and show their faces. thank you very much. [applause] [applause] >> okay, i am sure that we have some questions and comments, just make sure that i get to you with a microphone before you start asking and hold your hand up until i'm in front of your. does anyone have a question? >> it sounds like the people returned to germany and japan did they volunteer to do that in any way or how did that come about reign. >> it is not a simple question but they were all voluntary. the fact is that the enemy felt that they had no choice but to go back to germany and build a life because the course of their internment includes that they had no idea how long it would be and of course they had nothing to go back to. when they left crystal city to be exchanged, they all signed that one reason the story didn't come out as they all signed a vow of silence and never speak of their experience or their role in the exchanges. so while they were from a bureaucratic point of view and that was the real problem and did i answer your question? >> yes. >> i haven't read your book yet, but i was surprised that this was the only family camp and i felt that they had supported this. >> missile terminology in world war ii it is quite part of this. and to be clear this was the only family camp specifically designed for families. in other words they want his fathers they are and our families like in these mountains, they didn't have family-style eating, they had and they went to things like that. and then of course it was the only multiple nationality family camp and the internees include those that i interviewed including those that had previously been in other places. and that is what they call it. this is the only true family camp. the language is part of that. >> i understand that this was not closed until 1948. is that correct? >> yes. >> what was the reason for the approximate three-year delay in closing the camp? >> once you've got them, what you do with them? you know, just to end this it's part of the same column that obama has right now. and so the people that were left there that they didn't have anyplace to go trying to keep some of the lawyers are trying to stay in the united states and they were not buying the voluntary thing anymore. >> what went on between the different nationalities of the camp? >> the answer and they pretty much live separately in the camp [inaudible] i think it's fair to say the germans and vice versa and they have to allow people to put multiple people together it is because of those kind of conflicts and they certainly have end and that makes up a lot of the camp section of the book. >> how many people were in the camp with the other people? >> that's a really good question. over the course of the 1940s 1942 two 1948 the best estimate is about 4000 they stopped counting at a certain point and so it is about 6000. thank you for the question. >> why were they exchanged? >> why were they exchanged and not enemy troops that had been captured. were they the ones that were mainly exchanged? >> some of the people they came back were american prisoners of war. and there were some camps that held only german and japanese that were exchanged as well and there were parts of these exchanges. people in crystal city just needed more people to exchange because roosevelt had a vigorous policy. >> also the president was concerned that he would have rather have exchanged civilians that did not have a lot of knowledge then. but they had a whole division of the state department called the special war problems division. and this was a very special war problem and there really was a game of chess, you know and the japanese and german had their chests and we had ours. >> one question, i grew up in texas and there was a world war ii prison work camp and several of the people who were interned ultimately ended up living there marrying women integrating into the community. did any of that happen in this? >> absolutely. >> do any of the internees to stay in crystal city? >> yes, they have reunions all the time and i would like to thank you especially everyone from crystal springs, my aunt and my mother's sister. all of you guys and it's great to see you, thank you so much. years 30000 miles to report on the story. sumac i'm super thrilled to be hosting the first talk to we've ever hosted for a book. [inaudible] [laughter] >> this blew my mind. [laughter] >> that is terribly exciting and finally i'm excited to have a book it says something a little bit knew about the drug war and we all know that the drug war is bad and awful. i don't need to tell you that. and you know that the drug war is bad and awful. and it's really excited and we are able to look at the history and look at where we are today, talk to people and go to places and figure out a way to tell this story in a way that makes us giving us a different lens an object on something that we know is horrible. and something that gives us a way to deal with it and create a better future and i'm terribly sorry. i'm glad you all came out. [applause] >> thank you for coming. when the war on drugs was being launched, the man who launched it said that there was one place in the world that proved more than any other that it was going to work. he said if you look at this place, it would prove that if you crack down hard enough and you'd you arrested enough people and if you are consistently passed many would disappear. that place was baltimore. how is that working out for you? and i feel like i should kind of apologize for something. and the only hitman made it out and they made it out from prison there. i went out into a jack-in-the-box. do you know what this is [inaudible] and i went in there and said can i have a quarter pounder with cheese. and she said to me what why. and i said can i have a quarter pounder with cheese and she said do you speak english. [laughter] and i said i people invented that. and i had to talk about this we had a lot of drug addiction and my family. a couple of relatives were not able to be a part of this. and there were loads of basic questions that i have been loading onto. why would drugs stand in the first place, why would they care about it if it wasn't working. and what were the alternatives? i realized that they talked about it in an abstract way. and so we are talking with loads of different people and their our scientist that are fitting them to see if they like them. to the only country in the world that has decriminalized this with results. the main thing that i took away is almost everything we think we know about the subject is wrong. drugs are not what we think they are. drug addiction is not what we think. the drug war is not what we have been told that it is and the alternative is not what they think that they are. and so they have the stories of real people whose lives were changed. and so just about five or six of the people that i have talked about in the book are part of this. one of them in 1939. and she sang a song called strange fruit. and she said to me that you have to understand how shocking this was. we have african american women standing in front of an audience in a hotel where she was not allowed to walk through the front door, she went through the side elevator singing a song against lynching. that night according to her biographer billie holliday received a threat and a warning from the federal euro of narcotics. they said to stop singing this song. the man who ran the bureau was a guy who is the most influential person and no one has ever heard of him he was the founder. he took over the department of prohibition just as alcohol prohibition was ending. he had to find a new purpose for his department and he was driven by two strong hatreds, one was the hatred about it and the other was the hatred of african-americans. this was a guy regarded as a crazy racist by the crazy racist of the 1930s and he was the and -- he used the n-word. billie holiday was everything he hated with an african-american woman standing up it was a heroin addict, it he got that jazz was the kind of mongrel evil music that is a sign of chaos and he would write these memos where he would listen to the lyrics like he thinks he can walk across the ocean and that is what they do think when they use the drug heroin. but billy grew up surrounded by the smell of burning feces. she grew up in something you're a town. and billie holiday learn something. she made herself a promise. she was not allowed in a lot of stores because she was an african-american, should should never bow her head to any white man. she gets this threat and says in effect that screw you, i will sing my song, i will do what i want, and that is the point at which they began. they hated employing african-americans and they had a rule that they would be part of this organization and it was hard to send a white guy to stop billie holiday. so they employed a man called jimmy fletcher. and she sent them to prison. she said you needed a license to perform anywhere and they would not give it to her and they said what is the coolest things you can do to a person is to take away the thing that you love and that includes ads all over the world today. -- he said they're never going to work again, they have a criminal record area and when she was in the early 40s, she was taken to a hospital and they said they are going to kill me in there, don't let them. in a hospital she's diagnosed with liver cancer and they arrest her on a hospital bed. the last minute was still alive in that room eugene, he was an incredible man. they take away the candies and toys and everything that she has. she goes and she hasn't got any heroine. so she starts to recover. ten days later they cut the methadone and she dies. one of her friends that she had been violently wrenched from my. but she insisted on singing her song. she would go anywhere that they would have her no matter what they did. she always saying. it helped me to think about the addicts in my life. and it really helped me to know that the addicts can be heroes her friend said that billie holiday was a week, she was a strong she can be. and i wanted to understand how those dynamics continued through today. and there was one individual named chino hardin. his mother who was a crack addict was raped by an lapd officer who was his father. he was a child of the drug war in the purest sense. his mother debra said nothing was done to ferment the prevention. the distribution was a crime and when he's 13 he becomes a crack dealer on the corner. and you can understand the dynamics of what happens. i'm guessing with a liquor store on the street, it certainly isn't far away. so if we go into that if we go into that liquor store any of us tonight and we tried to steal the beer or vodka, and i apologize if any of you do that after i speak they will call the cops and they will come and take us away. the liquor store doesn't need to be violent. if we go to a local wheat dealer and we tried to steal their goods, they cannot call the police. right? the police will come and arrest them. they have to be terrifying. they either have to fight you or better yet established a reputation to be so frightening that you would not dare take them on. she is one of the most empathetic people that i know and she had to learn to be terrified. he had to learn to discipline his gang by ripping them out. he had to be aggressive and violent end they were talking about creating a culture of terror. if people still wanted to buy milk this is not about drugs, this is about prohibition they are not going to shoot any of the people in that wal-mart. the out all prohibition they were killing each other. what happens is they rise to the crips they talk about something with gang members it cost a million dollars per year. and so if you got any idea, were happy to talk about it. and so chino rises and starts using crack as he put it to me he said he wanted to know what my mother chose over me. so when he gets out of prison he starts to read about the drug war. and he discovers something that blows his mind this is not something that just happens in the world, it's not like a tsunami or a hurricane. this is a political choice and what happened to his mother what happened to him, all of that, it did not have to happen. he became a campaigner against the war on drugs. this includes shutting down the prison he was put in. and he succeeded. he was also very articulate in explaining how much this is still about what it was about what billie holiday. when he found out that billie holiday was a heroin addict, he also found out that judy garland was one. he told judy garland to take slightly longer vacations and that she would be fine. and that person called [inaudible name] was standing on the interstate 95 and maddux was a cop. she was arresting anyone she could find she had long hair and a hot temper they get to take away whatever they want and her best friend was lisa she was murdered by what she believed was a drug gang. and so that was why she went into it. but he was onto something. if you rest a rapist, the next week no one thinks that they're someone else on the corner but crucially leading to something more important.. the murder rate goes up if you bust the dealers. and what she discovered you trigger a war between rival gangs to control this. you start a turf war, there are 10,000 deaths per year in the united states, three 9/11's and there are a lot of people being caught in the crossfire. and they were hit in the crossfire and they didn't know what to do. they also believe very strongly that he was shot by the dealer couldn't he just thought it was the dealer and so she is -- i'm so proud to know her, such an extraordinary person. and i wanted to know what life is like on the supply. this dynamic that we are talking about, the dynamic of creating the right to put it, the war on drugs creating a war for drugs. and this was in el paso. [inaudible] and every morning i would walk across the bridge and you would walk across the bridge into what feels like an american city. and there is a 2% conviction rate and that 2% of them do it. the way it really helped me to understand the story there is to understand that they never sold drugs. they had no interest in it. she was 14 years old and then one day a guy shows up and he says i have a kid and i need some work, will you help me, is there anything i can do. and they said i can't give you a job. and so [inaudible] having an affair with my daughter, she's working, and you have not them. and she tried to get pregnant, but she tried to do this all the time and one day she turns up and ruby is not there. so her baby in there and survey says that ruby ran away, she went off with another man. and another individual says she didn't run off with another man and leave her child with you, i know she wouldn't do that and they said well, that's what happened. so she said have you seen my daughter and they just have to drive out out into the desert with them. and i hope that you can destroy the body. she says i can go and she goes to the police and says you have to do something. and they still don't quite understand why. they eventually campaigns managing to get this on trial. and so they break down and apologize to her and he admits what he did. and two weeks later he is acquitted. and he disappeared and she discovers that sergei works for the mexican drug cartel. so let's say five or 10% in the hands of armed criminal gangs selling drugs how this is going to be a lousy place to live, 70% of the economy is in illegal drugs and they can outbid this state. i was being shown around by one individual who was a correspondent who was killed by the police. [inaudible] in the age of prohibition she would not accept it. she decided to track down survey and she turns up to a detective that she spends three years tracking him all over mexico and she becomes a crack detective. and she walks across the desert and after three years she finds them. she goes to the police. and they go away again. and she goes and stands outside the governor's mansion and she leads a protest and she has become a symbol of everything. she stands outside and she makes this amazing speech about how people in mexico deserve justice. and in front of all of the police a man walks up and shoots her in the head. and a woman whose wages you pay the head of the drug enforcement agency, was asked about the 60,000 deaths of civilians in the last seven years and i urge you to look it up. she said that it was a sign of success on the war on drugs and when i went and talked to her i said to her stay with me with what she said. i said were your friends and she said we were terrified that sometimes your love is stronger than your fair. and it's something in the hope of that so i contrasted what she said that really stayed with me. another thing i wanted to understand was what causes drug addiction. if you would've said to me four years ago i would've said heroin causes heroin addiction. for 100 years we've been told a story that is so obvious that it has become part of our common sense. and we think that the first 20 people [inaudible] that we would physically need hair when that we would physically crave it. and that there may be something wrong with that theory and if any of us stepped out into the street and are hit by a car and we break, we will be taken to the hospital and it's likely that we will be given a lot of morphine which is harrowing. it's much better than street heroin which is five or 10%. you will be given out for a long time, that has happened at johns hopkins in any university in baltimore, it's happened at every hospital in the united states and the developed world people are being given a lot. and he wouldn't know is that your grandmother was not turned into a junkie by her hip operation. it's what we think about, if it's right, those people should be leaving as addicts but that doesn't happen. and so i didn't know what to do with it because it seems so weird. we talked to a man named bruce alexander and he explained to me that the addiction, the one that i believe has a series of experiments that were done early in the 20th century as few can go home and do them yourself, you get a rat and you put it in a cage and give it to water bottles, one is water and one is with heroin or cocaine. if you do that the rat will almost prefer the drug and almost always kill itself. so there you go addiction confirmed. until 1970 one individual says wait a minute, it's got nothing to do let's try this differently, so keep this experiment, he built rat park. it's got friends, tunnels, everything they could want in rat park and of course they tried this because they didn't know what was in it. but in rat park, they don't like the drug him and they hardly ever use it, none of them ever overdose, none of them ever use it in a way that looks compulsive i think there's a human experiment all around about this do what he does is he says this is the right wing theory that is flawed and the lettering theory is that it takes you over and hijacks your brain. he says that it's not a morality and it's not your brain. addiction is an adaptation to your environment. there was a fascinating experiment going on at the same time called the vietnam war 20% of american troops were using this. if you look at reports from the time they were really worried. they were like my goodness, all of these people are going to come back and we are going to have hundreds of thousands on the street. what happened? all of the study show that they came back and almost all of them just stopped. they did not go into rehab or withdraw they stopped because they got taken out of the jungle where you don't want to be and it's a nightmare and you could get killed at any moment, you go back to your nice life with your friends and your family and the equivalent had been taken out and be put into the second. and so i was in the war on drugs was based on the idea that the chemicals cause of the addiction and we need to physically eradicate them. so i don't think that's possible physically to eradicate these chemicals, we cannot keep drugs out as easily. we pay a lot of people good luck keeping it out of the united states, but you can at least understand that that has a philosophical appearance. but if that is not what causes addiction, the vast majority believe that those don't become addictive, it is isolation and pain, it is also the drug war that is built on the idea that what we should do without it is inflict more isolation and pain on them. in that reason they took me to this solitary confinement and there are desperate addicted women and i suddenly thought this is the closest you are ever going to get to a human reenactment of the cage that guarantees addiction. when they get out the site with billie holiday, they won't be able to work or do the things that they love. and i think it has deep philosophical applications. a guy says we shouldn't use the word addiction but bonding. human beings have an innate need to bond and the bond that we have is mostly with each other. but if you are deprived of the ability to bond with each other whether you're traumatized or cut off or humiliated or isolated, you will bond with something that gives you pleasure, that might be a roulette wheel but you will bond with something and if we want people to give up their bond, the moment that we talk about this we talk about how this could be individual recovery and we need to talk more about social recovery as well, something has gone wrong not with just individuals but a group. we have created a society where he number of our fellow citizens cannot bear to be present without being heavily medicated. the telling you to stories about the end of the war on drugs. good news, the war on drugs has begun to end. and i went to the places where it has begun to end. i thought that if i go there and it didn't work it could be the most oppressive and book ever written. but actually what i saw blew my mind. in the year 2000 the same time that we were standing outside baltimore a man called bud osborne was living on the streets near downtown vancouver. they have the worst concentration of attic in america. it was reported that the place at the end of the line people called it the terminal city. his friends were dying all around. so if you start to overdose, no one else sees you your body is found two days later. bob said that i have to do something about this, i cannot just watch all my friends die. and he also thought what can i do, i am a homeless street at and he had a very small and simple idea he got together the addicts and died when we are not using why don't we patrol the alleyways and have a timetable and if we spot someone, we will call an ambulance. and they started to do it. and a few months past and the overdose rate started to fall. that was great in itself but it also meant that the addicts got to think of themselves differently. and so they said they started to go to public meetings about the menace of the addicts and they would sit in the back and listen and they would say i think the were talking about us. and sometimes people would be really angry and they would say things like you leave your needles lying around. they say that is fine, we will extend it to collect them at the end of every day. then bob learned about frankfurt, germany. a place that you could go we could use heroin and then they said we are going to make it happen and they started to talk about this. picture that romney. a wealthy right-wing businessman. and they started to follow him everywhere they went saying that addicts will be taken to a local military base. and they started to follow him everywhere they went and they carried a coffin and the coffin said something like he will die and this goes on for two years and they start to get disillusioned because nothing is changing and people are still dying in huge numbers. one thing he said is that who are these people. and he just spends a lot of time with addicts. and his mind is blown. he had no idea. and so i learned when it comes back to this i hold a press conference and is the chief of police and corner, he has a chance to sam never going to talk about addiction again because they understand it better than anyone and we are going to openness first room in north america and have the most compassionate drug policy is in the things are going to change. they open the first injection room and they are so horrified. so there's a right-wing candidate in that candidate is beaten by a more liberal candidate who wins and keeps it open. the result are in 10 years later. overdose has gone by 80% and an average life expectancy has improved by 10 years. he only get stats like that at the end of the war which his likeness. bob died last year and he was only in his early 60s. but it takes a toll on you. they sealed off the streets to have a memorial service enormous crowds of people came and huge numbers of people knew that they were only alive because of what he had done. they think they are powerless and what can they do i want to tell you that you are so much more powerful than what you know. and this includes the saving of thousands of people's lives. it can never be taken away now. he did that by starting monday on one street with a bunch of alex. and i also wanted to go to the only place in the world that decriminalize all drugs from cannabis to crack and i wanted to the story about this. portugal had one of the worst drug problems in europe. 1% of the population. .. to be fair to them a stop on the panel comes back and says decriminalize everything but then here's the crucial next step, take all the money we currently spend on arresting drug users trying and imprisoning drug users. let's use all that money on really good judge treatment and it's mostly not what we think of drug treatment and united states. some of it is residential rehab and some of it is psychological support hugely valuable. the biggest thing is -- we could all be drinking vodka now. why are we? is because we have got something to do. we have meaning and purpose in our lives. we have things who want to be present for in our lives. the bully wants to be present for. game of the portuguese to criminalization was to make sure that every addict in portugal had something to get out of bed for so the biggest element of the program of subsidized jobs. say you had a problem and he used to be a mechanic. when you are ready they say if you employ this guy for a year we will pay half his wages. or microloans or groups of attics to sell businesses. the group of 15 attics addicts have this incredible support group. if you are one and 14 that have relapsed the other guys have a strong incentive to support you and get you clean. and it's been 14 years now and again the results are in. injecting drug use is down by 50% in portugal. although studies show addiction is down trade overdoses massively down and a guy named and i can't say portuguese names iis get them wrong. he led the campaign against the criminalization. he was the talk -- top drug cop in portugal and he is what a lot of people watching as we think and if you are criminalized will have all sorts of problems. and i'm paraphrasing everything i said would happen didn't happen everything the other side said what happened at any talk to me about how ashamed he was that he spent 20 years arresting and harassing drug users read and he hoped the whole world followed portugal's example. i don't want to get to -- i knew but i believe i've seen the future and it works. you know to wars began in 1914 two global wars. one is the war on drugs that hasn't ended and what is the first world war which lasted it it -- to 40 years. you know that some aging -- amazing images of the great enormity and france with all these graves stretched out for miles and miles. try to imagine if all the people from the war on drugs were buried in one place who would be there. you would have billie holliday and the song son she never got to sing. you would have leaves friends lisa and dead. he would have loved friend to die behind dumpsters. he would have a lot of people who were loved by people in this room. we have got a choice. we have got another century. we can fill that graveyard with far more people or we can choose a policy of love and compassion that will save a huge number of those lives. it's up to us now. thank you. thanks very much. [applause] so any questions? >> we have time for some q&a so if you would like to ask a question there are mics in the aisle right now. please line up and use the microphones. >> i would say two things, almost all the questions have been firm men so i'm going to police is that we have half women. you think there's a connection on the war on drugs and alien to my buddy meant illegal aliens and i started giving an answer like evil smuggling and mexican cartels. he said i mean extraterrestrials. i don't think extraterrestrials exist and he was horrified so as long as your question about that i will be very happy. if anyone wants to come because it's being filmed. if you just want to ask a question and come to the microphone. >> you mentioned a country that is legalize all drugs i believe. can you describe the country and how is that working out? as far as helping society and young people and how are they being educated for its usage? >> is an important distinction. decriminalization means you don't punish people for using. legalization into established a legal route to getting the drugs to portugal made decriminalize and it deals with some of the problems about others. the way i explain it is they shot down orange to the new black but they still have breaking bad traits i went to a country where they legalize heroin. i am also a swiss citizen in switzerland legalize heroin. this is really shocking because switzerland is really a right-wing country. when i was talking to someone about the war on drugs. he said i know we should do about the war on drugs. we should -- is that we are book is about? if you are a heroin addict you go to a doctor in the doctor will refer to the clinic and did not clinic you can go wherever you want to go and they will give you heroin. they will give you of whatever doesn't care when you asked for and you can't take it out with you but you can be given at there. one was unexpected. so they could carry on for as long as they want with a heroin and she's like yeah but the fascinating thing is almost everyone because their life stabilizes with the chaos of street is having to scramble for street use and all the prostitution most of them start to get their life together. they get jobs and they choose to reduce the heroin because their reality gets better. they choose to stay in reality longer and 70% of swiss people voted to keep that policy. probably because they're so much less street crime. street prostitution in to. there was much less mugging, much less violence so there was legalization. can we take a woman? i promise we'll we will come to you. thank you. hello. >> i work for a provider agency that does community-based alternatives for kids in juvenile detention. we use a rapper and advocacy approach. it's all about connections to you are helping to impose peace but last week that was in pennsylvania and harrisburg at the capitol talking to a legislator who very clearly was like people are attics and they make those choices and we have to punish them. what is a narrative that we can use for those of us whose experience tell us what you're saying in your book that we can use for naysayers and things like back? or positions of authority and power to make those changes? >> you may think it's like fluffy or feel-good or you want to have a thug kind of than what i think is great. >> that is sorely needed and really important. i guess what i would say is we have had a massive dehumanization and american britain and other places. there's no other minority i can think of where when they die lots of people say they brought it on themselves bear member went and the whitehouse guide or the kid from glee lots of people were saying they brought it on themselves. even a person at alton john guide wouldn't say good. it would be really extreme if they did that. it's about humanizing addicts and telling the story so it's about people coming out. like how did we change? 1963 the riots, two theaters in in -- 2000 years ago people were being persecuted. the defenders of people the pro-position was to say they are not evil, they are sick. that was the pro-position in people toga stories that people in their lives and incredibly people all over the world said i'm and i'm not the way you think i am. so partly stories about it coming out like you have black lives matter which is hugely important. i think we need the message addicts lives better. when the horrendous things i did for the book was i went to arizona the place about the chain gang and i interviewed to -- who works in prison right. tell me about something that shocked you. and she went through this long list list. somewhere down the who is she said there was a time i put that woman in the cage and cooked her. that was bad. i do the facial expression like you'd guys did just then today said sorry donna could you go back a second? there was a woman named marsha powell. she kept being arrested for having math or for prostituting herself to get mad. in her early 40s and one day she was in a prison and she was suicidal. the doctor didn't believe she was suicidal but to punish her for making noise they took her and put her in this cage in arizona, and exposed cage in the desert. and they left her there and she screamed and she begged for water and the guards mocked her and eventually she collapsed him by the time they called an ambulance she had been cooked. no one was ever criminally punished because addicts lives don't matter in our culture. and when they found the father of her children got the story of her life which is heartbreaking like billie holliday. she was a prostitute as a child. i think it's partly about explaining addiction is caused by pain and we need to tell a lot more real stories of real addicts and you know i think most people are pretty compassionate. most people are decent people and most americans had gold of you. if tell the stories i think that vindictive lets cook them in cages mentality will not thrive. thank you. thanks. hi. hello. >> i was wondering if you decriminalized everything in portugal do you think that the differences in american society that the same thing would work in the united states because it's a larger country with a more diverse society and social problems that they are lots of it in portugal? >> professor jeffrey miron said if you add up all the money spent on the drug weren't over taxes you would raise from drag jack city tax them the way we tax alcohol you would have ordered $3 billion a year. you could do what portugal did on steroids for $43 billion a year. that's an enormous sum of money so yeah transferring the money from something that makes addiction worse to something that helps people to turn around their lives absolutely would work. of course the details of the different than what works in mississippi may not work on the upper east side. we need to experience cautiously and be humble and say some of it will work in some of a while but i have to think it would work united states. we have parties in the legalization of marijuana in colorado and washington could i tell the story of how that incredible campaign by fantastic people was one in colorado. i think that's the short answer. can we go to a woman next? hello, come forward. i'm sorry, the light is blinding me. i literally couldn't see you at all. >> i've a question on the process of researching and i'm wondering the broader connections that you made great how much of that became clear as you are traversing geographic space and how much was part and parcel of the at analysis? >> no one asked me about the process of writing the book. i'm so happy. amygdala's book the riders like it if anyone wants to be a writer pleased by that book. it's amazing. has a brief analysis from thoreau. apparently i know nothing about nature either. apparently they want to find to be hibernate on the word is you look for a big jar catch the b. and hold that they're permanent. if you open the jar that be will freak out and find the direction of the hive so you cheese -- chased to be you lose it and catch another another be left that wants another be let that one can only do that 10 or 15 times you find the hive. that was basically the process of writing my book. i started with a list of people who i thought were interesting on the subject and i said well should i talk to? i found lee and i found so many people. it was a really fascinating process that led me and sometimes you would speak to a chain of nine people. you didn't get anything ported suddenly i would find lee. so that's the process. hi. >> hello. i was very interested to hear your take refreshing to hear that the fundamental cause of addiction is paid and the solution whether it's the dysfunctional solution or a societal solution would be providing bonding. i was just simply curious, have you -- do you have any familiarity with the sociologist rené brown and her work in the shame and the unspoken role that shame has in our society is almost a universal cause for disorder unhappiness and malcontent? i came across her work a number of years ago. she is also from texas and as you said you have had a chance to visit. it changed my life. to hear those words get again in a different context was something i felt like i wanted to take a moment and reference. >> you are the second to recommend this. i will definitely come i promise i will read it. >> a video on youtube a tedx talk that went viral. it was one of the most harrowing moments of her life to talk about shame because she herself is very introverted and struggles with it herself so there's a genuine nation -- nature to the way she comes across watching that was what led me to the rest of her work. >> there someone i wrote about in the book is a fascinating person. during the holocaust in the budapest ghetto there was a woman called judith marcase who is about to be murdered by the nazis. her parents have been murdered by the nazis in auschwitz but she didn't know it yet. she went up to christian stranger and to take my baby take him. the christian stranger did and that kid grew up to be a doctor and some people will know his work. he's a fantastic person. he started to work with hard-core addicts and what he noticed was there was one thing they all had in common. they all had horrific childhoods childhoods, sexual abuse physical abuse, far more then represented by the wider population. he himself had addictions. it was really pragmatic in his life. he would compulsively buy cds which you never listen to what is not quite crack addiction that he would abandon women in the middle of labor and go buy cds. he started think about the childhood chum he had and the childhood chum of these people. the adverse childhood experience study survey and they basically started -- on children and for every seriously traumatic event that happens to a child they are two to four% more likely to be an injecting drug user. what he explains as it's related to the shame they feel. when you are a kid the way we internalized the way our parents treatise. usually it's her mother piketty can be anyone. if you're upset and pain your mother reassures young columns you down. other times you reassure yourself. if you react to their crime with indifference or indeed hostility you will treat yourself like that as she that as you get older and you will be much more likely to need external soothing and external drugs. first i thought are these different theories but then it occurred to me if you go through childhood, it's much harder to trust the world. there a lot of people in the world that know this. you are much more likely to be isolated. shall we take a woman. hello. thank you for your question. >> i had a question about the u.n. convention on drugs and whether you had any opportunity to talk to anyone affiliated with the u.n. and changing policy internationally? >> yeah i interviewed the woman who used to be the head of one of the main u.n. drug agency's a british woman. the origins harry and slinger the man the place is rolling killing billie holliday was the crucial figure. he said i had made up my mind don't try to confuse me at the facts. and it's very important as global drug war is imposed from united states. the way it worked as at the end giving about mexico, mexico had a really good drug policy. they kept drug legal. there was a doctor and charge of drug policy. he said marijuana wasn't probably should treat alex with compassion. and mexico refuses so and slinger cut off off the supply for illegal opiates to mexican hospitals and they ripen and give me -- agony. britain resisted in some ways and basically the u.s. is dominant at the end of the second world war. it's one of a few things the u.s. and the soviet union agreed on. so these two superpowers unite to write this disaster, so the u.n. office of drug control is this body that imposes the drug war mainly funded by the u.s. under u.s. pressure. and one other thing about that analogy to the question but even the u.n. odc that threw me, if i said to you what proposed in -- proportion of currently illegal drug use doesn't do any harm to the user. you don't become addicted and don't have any health problems no harm at all it's 90% the overwhelming majority which is kind of hard to get your head around because if i said to you picture. ♪ user you picture yourself at a bar having a beer. if i say to you picture a cocaine user you picture an attic because the nature of the drug cocaine is no more likely to be addicts. it's because the drug war drives normal drug use underground so we don't see it. we just don't know about it. you would be pretty foolish if you were to come up to me and announce on facebook or anywhere that you are cocaine user. your boss is googling and you don't want that. so the drug war creates this weird effect to reinforce itself and distorts a picture of drug use that then needs the drug war itself. anyway that's my free association. >> we were talking to those folks. >> it's about talking to those guys and it the political change happens by talking to the people at the top. be honest i was never going to get that change. chomsky says he disagrees speaking truth to power. i don't need to tell the truth. he knows he is just a psycho. we don't need to tell the truth to those people. we need to make them change and the only way to do that is to bond together and demand it. >> a brilliant answer. thank you. [applause] >> i am doing a story right now about the impact of the war on drugs and a community that you call the ground zero for the war on drugs in baltimore and they are kind of addressing when he talked about how the conditions create the addictions and not the drugs. they are community that is kind of trying to keep the police away from what they are doing and the police have a new plan to send all these new officers into this community. are there other examples you know of for these types of holistic community-based efforts where community members are just trying to organize themselves prevent out the war on drugs is a federal policy but in baltimore to implement it by local law enforcement. i know there are laws in marijuana in maryland to decriminalize or legalize elsewhere but with heroin and harder drugs it seems like there's no end in sight. to legalize now were easing some of the punitive measures being faced. also the stats stuck out to me about how when you are rested one drug dealer there's so much more violence that results in it that and i know you said it's crazy to try to reason with people in power but it seems like people are just ignoring that her people in power are ignoring that are pretending that's not reality. >> that's a really interesting question. the best example is vancouver. a guy named matthew fogg i quote in the book a speech he gave. if you have got a law that is broken by half the population which the drug laws have been you can't put half of the population in prison. so what are you going to do? you are going to go to the most unpopular groups and he said in a speech he was a cop in d.c. and i'm paraphrasing. he basically went to his boss one day in said hey bost y. when we to drug raids do we only go to the black neighborhoods but i'm pretty sure whitefield to drugs. his boss said something like of course they do but why people get lawyers and why people know judges and white people know journalists. go for the low-hanging fruit. i'm all for moderate form but compassion in the framework of the drug war would get us very far. an incremental change is better. it improves one persons life really and i'm in favor of. i'm not one of these people who says things should stay bad to prove how bad they are. an incremental change is good but i don't tank, people say a shift in policing sure those things can be beneficial but ultimately if we have transferred drugs to armed criminal gangs and we have got drug lords against despised minorities is going to be awful. i'm sorry that's not more hopeful. and it's worth saying we talk about heroin legalization is different things for different drugs. no one wants there to be a crack i went to cvs. you have to understand that they have at the moment is anarchy. unknown criminals sell unknown chemicals to unknown users in the dark. we don't know what's going on. we already have so what we need to do is expand regulation legal preparation to cover that. we haven't done anything new. those webs of regulations exist for illegal drugs. we have one web for alcohol that i would encourage people to expand to cover cannabis and party drugs like ecstasy. we have a web of regulations by powerful sleeping pills at cvs much to my dismay because i have jet lag at the moment. that would have a preparation where you have to go doctor and to cover that you would cover things like heroin as they have been in switzerland so successfully. the things i crack and meth is hard to know. you might have an adaptation of the vancouver model for some safe spaces where you can use provided you didn't leave. but it's about, legalization doesn't mean and anarchic free-for-all. what we have now is anarchic free-for-all. legalization is a way of regulating and extending control. should we go to the next woman in the line. you are in fact the next one in line. >> i have a couple of questions. >> you want to just ask one because we have quite a few people. >> my question is came a little bit late so little bit wayside in the purity dresses but how did you come to this topic are your research and what is your background with drugs in your initial mentality before you started understand why drugs? 's been up to secretly we have addiction and my family and tranquilizer addiction and that was up to the national like a lot of people you have that background. i was eyes drawn to relationships with addicts and i was an on and off relationship with a person at a very good -- bad crack problem. >> would you consider the clinics in switzerland and also in vancouver to be analogous to methadone clinics are gigantic where -- or even nicotine patches? >> all those places prescribed it as well. the something as complex as human addiction you need to have a broad menu. anyone who says there's one solution to addiction and i found it and it's this is a charlatan and you should listen to them. addiction is complicated and different things will work for different people trade methadone should be on the menu abstinence-based treatment. there's a whole range of things. i don't want to take anything off the menu. i forgot to mention i've got to make in my speech. it's important to understand there is a chemical component to addiction. it's not like the story we are told is false. we actually know statistically from an experiment that people in this room would have taken part in what percentage is. we know menthol cigarettes are less addictive than tobacco cigarettes and a compelling part of tobacco is nicotine. when in the early 90s they invented nicotine patches there was this huge wave of optimism by officials who said great smoking is going to end because you get the drug you are addicted addicted to it that the filthy carcinogenic smoke. there are people wearing nicotine patches in this room wanting a cigarette. 17 the people that use nicotine patches can stop and 83% can't. that's also 17% is the camo component is enough to stop your addiction. that's a lot. you can stop 17% of smoking that's a huge number of lights. i'm not for a minute dismissing that the 70% is less than 83% and 83% as is all this other stuff we are talking about. there isn't that the woman next. let's just go for it. dan boozman. >> i like men but anyway. first of all thank you seriously. it's not just about the addiction are people who are seen as addicts. it's about the fact that you are creating a more

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hopefully giving the family a little bit of closure in this case. the oakland police are acting pretty quickly as the shootings and. three more arrests have been made end the abreast of the death of chyemil pierce. a third arrest was made with a woman who might have been an accessory to the shooting. but prosecutors say that they most likely will not be filing charges against her. this is all stemming from ms. pierce being gunned down at her home due to regain land on gunfire in her area. >>: in this case shows that the community was provided officers with information to help move the case forward. we're talking about for individuals in connection with this tragic, site of a mother lode was trying to ulster like try to protect children. were looking forward to any other information for anyone else that may have been involved in the shooting. >> reporter: this comes just a few days after the arrest of 19 year-old sam some suffered a gunshot wound from the gunfight that he was again. allegedly. the was also 60 year-old boy the was caught in that car gunfire you remains in hospital and all this will go to the d.a.'s hospitals looked for review. we're expecting to find out what charges will be filed any day now. >> pam: happening right now major delays on bart's after someone jumped in front of a train. it happened at the civic center station in san francisco. the bart trains are currently not stopping at that station the person that has jumped one has died. >> pam: not as been more than three months since san francisco police made a public plea for help in solving the case of the beating death of all homeless man in the financial district. maureen kelly has more summation >>: >> reporter: lt. tony chaplains as after the release this surveillance video which shows clearly shows that three suspects walking into a frame they expected to get hundreds of call the people willing to identify them. especially when the crime was so shocking here is more video showing the attack the tree all suspected using their fists and feet to beat thailand to death the night of november 23rd between 11:00 p.m. and midnight. and once suspect everything coming back a second time to resume the attack. lt. chaplains as they initially believe that the three men had come into the city to bring this debate and a mop/mop eve that which happened near the crime scene on the same time as the attack. the organizers have provided the police pictures of their event like these posted on instagram and they have not seen the men and they are looking for. >>: 1 as many tickets as possible in this case. the man was and a sleeping bag and totally defenses. defenseless >> pam: of bank rate crash in pence per believes the driver dead. several cars were damaged and investigators are trying to figure out what happened. this is the accident same police say the big rig was traveling down well road in pittsburgh and for some reason it was unable to stop. it struck several cars before landing in this restaurant and tax business. the crash ignited a blaze and the driver died. police say they are looking into the cause of this accident. >>: there seems to be some kind of failure and the trouble we have not been able to confirm that yet >> pam: take a look at this trot it was struck and adjutancy it was destroyed by the fire fortunately both the driver and passenger were able to walk away on injured. railroad avenue in prince burke were shut down for several blocks today as crews cleaned up. >> pam: a father was injured in a fire in san francisco's mission district last week died on saturday. monad shy being died as a result injuries suffered during an early morning blaze in an apartment located above more reasons corner liquor store on 24th street emergency responders performed cpr on three of the five family members and in that blaze. silly me all leaves behind three children and his wife for all sent to hospital. the call the fire remains under investigation. >> pam: force san francisco forty-niner rate mcdonald has filed a defamation lawsuit against the woman accused him of sexual assault. kron 4 rob fladeboe reports >> reporter: set of that attorneys steve the syllabus the says the goal of the lawsuit clear mcdonalds' names so we can get back to work. >>: need a determination made so the his name can be cleared. >> reporter: filed early monday in superior court the 15 page lawsuit claims that ray macdonald and the defendant, home kron 4 news is not identified mad at the will of them are on and san jose on december 13th and then went to mcdonald's home where air contrary to what she is is said to have told police had consensual sex. >> reporter: mcdonalds' attorney says the woman's fault claims ang get rid of unresolved inquiry by law enforcement, not only led to his being released by the forty-niners but have damaged his reputation and her any chances of finding employment elsewhere in football. the suit asks for unspecified damages. >> pam: the lawsuit claims that there are witnesses and homes surveillance video now and and the police and prosecutors that will cooperate mcdonalds' story that the sex between he and the defendant which occurred that night and again the next day was consensual. the district attorney's office has yet to file charges against mcdonnell of the decision is expected soon. mcdonald attorney says his client hopes to play in the nfl yet this year, but declined to say which teams may have expressed an interest in his services. >> pam: fire shut down one of the boards in the cal the cal cup title. coming up if i 3:00 p.m. what caused the fire that had drivers running for their lives. plus a millionaire real estate air robert dearth facing murder charges tonight. i had fire 30 p.m. the rest room confession that led to his arrest and next top parents may be sharing too much about their children. >> reporter: will talk about the possibility of rain tonight and a warming trend coming up. >> pam: more than 50 percent of mothers talk about their children on social media but are they sharing too much? researchers at the university of michigan the study social media and say parenting. they found all those social media does offer parents an outlet for advice parents to go over share can post privacy risk for entire families. cyber bullying plus on new trend called digital kidnapping are some common away strangers have reportedly stole it and its use family photographs and information. researchers say parents should enjoy the benefits of digital camaraderie but they should also be thoughtful about the child's privacy. >> pam: still add a field trip takes a scary turn when a packed bus catches on fire and east bay next we will hear from the quick thinking share of deputies who helped rescue more than 40 people plus will explain the big sendoff for a world war two veteran today at sfo airport. >> pam: tonight the far right war of the cal the got tunnel is open to traffic once again. it was quite a different story earlier when a car crashed and caught fire inside the tunnel. this is video from our helicopter partnership with abc seven news you can see smoke pouring out and the drivers were stuck in the tunnel walking out. >> reporter: this is one of two friars that cost to car that caught fire and the caldecott can't tunnel this morning. two lanes of east bound traffic was stopped blocked to inspect the roadway. thousands of drivers were stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic during the height of the morning commute. eastbound traffic was backed up for a mile of the fire could not have happened and the worst location. >>: limited visibility access points. it's not uncommon to see cars kedged fired their mechanicals they have electrical components flammable on board. >> reporter: chp was able to respond very quickly because they were near the area for a separate car accident. when there ride everyone was already out of their cars. >>: the fire was small and a vet gradually grew. >> reporter: the cause of the accident is still under investigation in the drivers were not hurt including 30 other drivers were forced to evacuate their cars because the cars were stuck in the tunnel at the time of the fire. will tran kron 4 news >> grant: a shares deputy in contra accounts cost the county is being called a hero for his actions in saving passengers from the burning bus on saturday. it's all but pull over to this side of interstate 680 and smoke was billowing out of the bust and he's the see students inside the bus. flames were spreading the then enter the burning blockbust. >>: i went back on the bus to make sure the when no kids left behind. >> reporter: it was that like with the bus in the analyst more porno >>: to tell you choose the did not think about it much of concentrating on making it seem too small to make sure the were no more children there. within a few minutes' time fire that engulfed both sides broke out windows on both side with thick black smoke. i was very happy to know that the children were safe. >> grant: it is in the extensive damage 30 students and three adults were on that bus. six students were transported to the hospital. >> pam: a san jose police officer charged with rape and assault said that he is not guilty after pleading at santa clara county superior court as his attorney asked the judge to drop and enhancement charges and permit his release on bail. the attorney for him told judge mccracken that graves completed not guilty last year then no contest in during his preliminary hearing last week plan to resume his not guilty plea and fight it dropped out the charges at a trial. >> reporter: were currently tracking a slow-moving cold front will have a few raindrops coming down around zero valley. mill valley.. on the net looking at cloudy conditions tonight the temperatures will be dropping into the low 50s upper 40's. by tomorrow look up to a warming trend will peak on thursday. >> pam: a bay area war were to better and is headed to want today to commemorate a moment in history that he lives through and remembers 70 years later. catherine heenan is here with the story >> catherine: his name is do we dobson when he passed through sfo airport earlier today he had a welcoming committee which left him a little overwhelmed and proud. do we knew something was coming. but still seemed bemused by the fuss over his predawn arrival at sfo airport. he and his wife sheila are heading for the final official reunion it would g mull. as a young marine he remembers arriving at the regina with a sense of wonder. oakland home and native had never been far from home. within hours after arriving he was loaded onto an amphibious vehicle and sent into action. there was an honor guard waiting for him inside. and u.s. the u.s. all members also wishing him well. do we says he's the pried this so many young people remember the battle of seven years ago and he is very grateful. he turned 89 years old next month and he does look great he doesn't have a lot of his comrades laugh but he is looking forward to the ceremonies also knows it will be a bittersweet experience. >> pam: we're learning new details about actor harrison ford's injuries following his plane crash and the latest on his recovery and later the boycott battling between singer elton john and fashion designer at dolce and about now. gab bana... the wod isillewithir. t fopeop witcopd sotimebreaing r cabe diffult. if you havcopdask ur ctorboutnce-ily oro lia. itelpseoplwithopd breae beer for full4hou. anoro elpta theirst a-apovedrodu containingwo lg-acng bronodilors onenhal. anoris n forsthma. anoro coains typof medine tt ireas riskf deh ineoplwithasth. it is not own thirisks incrsed cop ano wot reace resc inhers for ddenopd mpto and shld n be ed me thannce day. tellour ctorf yohave hearcondion, origh ood essu. tell youdoct ifou he glauma, osta or bladd proems, orrobls paing ine as anormay ke tse oble wor. call youdoct rig awaif u ha woenedreatng 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santa monica airport and losing engine power. he clipped the tree before coming down on the golf course near the airport avoiding hundreds of homes in the area. >> pam: real-estate air robber durst is behind bars in norman's awaiting extradition on serious charges coming up if fire 30 p.m. the latest on the case and of documentary documentary that brought down. plus the jury in the boston bombing trial gold on a field trip. tepees of evidence they saw close and next. 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(scal): good day, m'lady! i am sir-can-a-lot, here to save you from another breakfast bore. wake up those eggs with glorious spam! see what spam can! do... at spam.com >> grant: tonight care of be careful to post of facebook. there are no rules about how much clothing is needed in order to be facebook safe. no nipples and expose but talks on facebook!. the social network has updated its community standards and has clarified its definition of nudity. pictures of genitals fully exposed buttocks and female breast if they include the novel are not allowed. if the woman's breast feeding or showing polls mastectomy scars and then that is ok. facebook also said so-called revenged born in which someone posed sexual images of another person without permission is not allowed. the company also followed up on its hate speech rules saying a tax on race, ethnicity, national origin, religion sexual orientation, gender and serious disabilities are banned. ♪♪ at kaiser permanente everything you need is 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dolce released a statement to the insider i am sicilian and i grew up in the traditional family, made up of a mother, a father and children. this is the reality in which i grew up, but it does not imply that i do not understand different ones. i was talking about my personal view, without judging other people's choices and decisions. jason ralph land director of communications of the human rights campaign national office and the seat was floored by the designers comments that have sparked an intensified international back last backlash. we've got a lot more on this story tonight at 7 on the insider. >> pam: you want all your celebrity news here on kron 4 after the insider entertainment tonight heir the 730 file by kron 4 news at eight. >> reporter: are storm trochophores picking up on a few drops as we head towards mill valley. it is the most of the weather is produced that stagnant and it is evaporated is a is a lower levels of the atmosphere. not a lot of rain is hitting the ground actually. pushing into downtown but were not getting the rain that looks like is there we are we can't rule out a sprinkle of rain up until 10:00 p.m.. but with unfairly dry. subject: comparison to yesterday. 68 unconquered 71 in livermore. the school's artist around for a few hours until this cluster of clouds comes through. this cold front will be kicked over a high ridge of pressure. and that'll bring us another warming trend aunt from tuesday and thursday which marks the first day of spring. it is cynical friend sticks around until 9:00 p.m. isolates' is isolated sprinkles not all of us will get wet and all. the eastbound clouds will actually begin to clear out in the southwest direction. the temperatures above a fall into the upper 40's in the north bay area. just a few low clouds expectable would make up tomorrow and the temperature will be between below '60s and mid- 60s and them will have a bit of a breed picking up to help it ride out the address for atmosphere even more so. will be in the upper 60s along a coastline. middle '70s and and and areas. we may be nearing record highs once again on thursday the first of the show day of spring. upper 60s along the coastline another cold front that may bring us a few sprinkles late friday and saturday for the north bay but most of us will stay dry. >> reporter: watching today's winners losers on the market today and it affects everybody's. one of the interest rates go up. >>: in the new car -- in new mortgage keeping those cars costs low fat as gonna have a meeting. they're headed up by janet yellen. there had to the wednesday around 1130 wins in a release and notes and set was some language out about being patience. when the moderate interest rates. the expectation is set interest rates will move higher. we may get a market event on wednesday. >> reporter: this is delphi this is a car this souped up. 3,500 mi. coast-to- coast and sent out a crossover. with name with special cameras radar and software audi... as 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shooting session is over eve is down to enjoy the wonderful bay area weather. i approached the smoking climber asked if he saw the sign yes there are signs the read please do not into the native grass area or here is is the important part touch this culture. this means no etching your name and the paint, vandalizing the structure by tagging it and rolling up with the state boards and other wheeled vehicles. and 2002 campus that was donated to the port of san francisco. san francisco is at its artwork not mocking bars however the port has had a hard time trying to keep people from climbing it. like this man sitting on the top of the sculpture. and finally slides down and it is his buddies turn and give going to climb our board take the shirt off to the mosque but he is not sure what a scale the mass the ball so his buddy gives them a lesson now they're both on top of filing one slides down and the other six the giants train. then after playing on the giant monkey bars everyone departs and here is the whole family what the adult in the crowd snapped photos. the port is planning on erecting a fence around the sculpture and putting up more signs to keep people out ajugas see the damage is already done. will leges common-sense is not so common when it comes the sculptures on the embarcadero. stanley roberts kron 4 news >> pam: there's more news still had san francisco police are under scrutiny tonight. and the dramatic acts of one top boesky resort says the mother nature is not cooperating. would have more news coming up as 6:00 p.m.. atoll resort lake tahoe resort ed for the way you live your life. so you can welcome your family home... for the first time. chase. so you can. >> grant: some night where invest a man and woman has been found in the glenview apartment complex east of highway 29 in napa. the man has not been alive for battle week and a woman and there has been dead for about a month. will bring updated information as soon as we did something new. >> pam: the other big story tonight is more aggressive in the tragic shooting death of an oakland mother. 30 year-old chyemil pierce was shot while trying to protect children from a gun battle in front of four home in oakland. scott rates has more >> reporter: 3 more arrests have been made over the weekend this comes as great news to the family of chyemil pierce. i can tell you that investigators haven't rested a 29 new rochelle the medan mills and jerry haar been they said was also third arrest a woman who might have been that an accessory to the shooting. right now prosecutors may not likely be charging her. all this is the man from the desk of the woman who was of gun down there are home with children. she was trying to protect her children at the time of the gunfire. wells on the 60 year-old boy was shot during the shooting. police are crediting the community for helping them find people that were guilty of this crime. they also say they're not dumb with investigation >>: the case will continue the case will move for investigators one identify anyone that was there a responsible for this and unfortunate incident. we certainly want to identify him and bring them address them and have the process take place. >> reporter: these the rest come just a few days after the arrest of 19 year-old simms was already charged with mar murderer he must file with a gunshot wound in a hospital from that murder. it is unclear what this what the rules were due in this incident. respecting charges to be filed in the day in this case. >> pam: happening now a candlelight vigil in memory of this woman was at the school where she was six she was a dental student here she was found dead in her apartment in albany last week she was 37 years old she been found shot. this is the first homicide in albany and since 2004. >> pam: charges were dismissed against two men accused of holding a woman captive for months. the two men were allegedly accomplices in helping to keep a 22 year-old woman captive what their employer allegedly sexually assaulted her for nearly three months on his ranch. today their conspiracy and false imprisonment charges were dismissed however charges remain for the main suspect. >> pam: 4 police force now police officers involved in a deadly shooting last week are now on paid administrative leave. authorities say 41 years of james richard a man has tried to eve they pull officers on his motorcycle as they tried to serve a search warrant for drugs at his call last friday police say he fell off a motorcycle was shot as he reached for a handgun. the napa county sheriff's department and the national police department internal affairs unit are both investigating the shooting. >> pam: to die crews are still on the scene of a deadly big red crash in the east bay these pictures come from our partnership with abc seven new the huge truck crashed into several vehicles before plowing into the restaurant. >> reporter: witnesses say it sound like an explosion when the big rig crashed into the building and fire erupted. the driver was pronounced dead the same just a short time before the crash. david garner says it look like the driver had lost control. as the truck came barreling down a road and hit him. these are pictures gardner took from the same. he says despite what look like a mechanical failure he believes the driver was trying to avoid injuring anyone shaken up gardner feels he was very lucky. >>: are really still locking up the died today. >> pam: this man was talking about his brother and brother-in-law who was in the vehicle destroyed with a truncated both the driver and passenger able to walk away. police say it is unclear what exactly happened that is a part of their investigation most of the they crows work to stabilize the building so that remote the driver's body and get the truck out. the building housed a mexican restaurant and tax business because it was early no one was inside. >> pam: all bore of the cal account tunnel was deemed safe and reopen late this morning after car crashed and caught fire their according to the california highway patrol. the far right eastbound tunnel reopened about 11:15 a.m. after caltrans called in an engineer to inspect the board for structural damage from the fire according to chp. chp officers initially responded to a crash near fisher branch road off ramp of east high eastbound state highway 24 at 6:20 a.m. when the crash inside the tunnel happened. traffic backups from the first crash has slowed traffic in the tunnel which connects oakland to or wind up. a 2000 ford taurus then slammed into the back of the 2003 saturn l 300 that had slowed or stopped in traffic causing the for to burst into flames, chp officials said. about 60 people were safely evacuated from the board as the tunnel filled with smoke. oakland fire crews responded and extinguish the cop caught fire shortly after 730 a.m. according to chp no injuries were reported. >> reporter: pushing toward the marine district or daly city and this will continue to sit over this area for the next five hours so we saw that nice band of rain is there might be an isolated sprinkle making it to the surface but most of us will say dry temperatures. for tonight this could be fairly cloudy a light sprinkle from the north bay down in to san francisco accounting as we head into tomorrow will looking at a warming trend through thursday. we also have another shot to see what weather from friday night into saturday mostly in the north bay area. >> pam: and this reminder you can get all your weather alerts forecasts check radar and more by dilating are free kron 4 mobile application. >> pam: san francisco police are still on the hunt for the suspects for the deadly beating of a homeless man was all caught on camera. and another sierra ski resort falls of victim to the drought where the lives will not be running for the rest of the season. the last the lifts... the volkswagen jetta is really fun-to-drive. go for it. okay. 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(scal): good day, m'lady! i am sir-can-a-lot, here to save you from another breakfast bore. wake up those eggs with glorious spam! see what spam can! do... at spam.com >> pam: police and san francisco are accented to take a close look at this video. it shows three men who are suspected of being homeless man to death back in november. they said the victim 67 year-old thailand had been sleeping on the street in the financial district when the unprovoked attack took place. police first release this video 3 months ago expecting to generate hundreds of tips. a so far they have not been they have gotten less than five. they say it is possible the trio came to this city to participate in a flash my bed nearby. >>: to take just a few minutes to look at these photos because these guys took someone's life and the walking around right now offering. >> pam: another possibility that they are police are considering consider is that these men had been in a nearby bar watching the warriors game. >> pam: the lawyer for ride mcdonnell talks about the lawsuit and the woman that accused him of rape. and san francisco's district attorney response to the racist e-mail from the san francisco police department paint. can't say thank you enough. you have made my life special by being apart of it. 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mcdonnell shortly after the woman's allegation. the santa clara county district attorney has not yet decided whether to file criminal charges. >> catherine: san francisco is different district attorney is now manning on racist text message that was sent by four police officers and was said against blacks mexicans filipinos and gays. and said that in his incident this out of the loan and immediate assessment of every prosecution where those officers were involved during the last 10 years. the offer of officers involved have been reassigned and have not yet been publicly identified. >> pam: the elder board of the san francisco largest evangelical church, city church as announced that the massive church will end its practice of preventing people from becoming members if they are unwilling or unable to practice lifelong celibacy. up as your practice of demanding lifelong celibacy by which we met that for the rest of our lives you would not engage your sexual orientation in any way was causing ivy is harm and has not led to a human flourishing. >> pam: california's historic drop takes center stage once again. tomorrow the state water reached resources control board is expected to get even tougher on water restrictions. the board is expected to order water agencies to limit outdoor watering for businesses and residential gunsel customers to specific days of the week. it would be the strictest mandate the state has considered since the drought of 1977. the water bars all so is working on a new waterways phone line. it would allow anyone in the state to report waterways by calling a toll- free number to it tomorrows meeting comes on the heels of a report friday by the nassau scientists at california and had on as about one year of water left. >> grant: the c.r. atoll ski resort is turning off its lips and closing its trails due to the lack of natural snow. general manager ron john rise issued statements saying the resort has decided with a heavy heart to suspend what winter operations starting monday. the popular ski area on highway 50 in twin bridges is known for is very terrain and snowmaking ability but rice says the lack of natural precipitation has left too many bare spots on the runs. >> reporter: until march 22nd sunday night was welcome spring friday and round out the winter season of the warmest on record thursday been the hottest day of the week. but just might be a stray sprinkel from the north bay down to san francisco the southern extent making its way to daly city from now to about 11:00 p.m.. most of us will stay dry will be clear o'clock it would be clear overnight. nevelson at significant warming trend with brazos' come at of the northwest. as we had friday and saturday they may be isolated sprinkles the up the north bay area. our current can just temperatures are mid to upper 60s. estelle 70 degrees in livermore parry @ stationery bowman's moorings slowly to the south. a lot of them are not hitting the ground. and looks impressive when dealing with bars the the rain drops are actually evaporated before they even hit the surface. nonetheless i cannot rule out a strays branco long to wait corridor. from 11:00 p.m.. of and that win tracking and ice ridge of high pressure. but wait for this system to the north and west of boston move is bound to pick up this pressure moved off to the east. right along the california coastline and the clear skies first in the north bay club the tuesday afternoon as we head into tuesday night because it a band currently in place initially states from napa county down to the city for the most bars until 10:00 p.m.. the clouds will actually pull away from northwest to southeast and us from pensacola readings in the north bay area. the bill the caller for you in the north bay upper '40's. but before in this city 53 in redwood city. through the afternoon thrall lunchtime a breezy when will begin to go rest of ride out of the northwest in a bit warmer afternoon just in time for st. patrick's day. middle '70s and in san jose 07 these in antioch 70 in richmond times the temperatures will be in the middle '70s. the heat will peak by thursday friday the temperatures would dip down to the low or '70s we could pick up on this prang go from friday and saturday. >> pam: a los angeles police officers on the run tonight after killing a man what was off duty. plus charge of seven specially been filed against a millionaire heir the was linked to three murders the bizarre details are coming up. that brings us together. and kitchens where every meal is the most important of the day. female narrator: for over 60,000 california foster children a pair of shoes is a small but important gift. my shoes have a hole in them. i can barely fit in these anymore. i hope no one would notice. they hurt my feet. i never had new shoes before. to help, sleep train is collecting new shoes of all sizes. bring your gift to any sleep train, and they'll be given to a local foster child in need. not everyone can be a foster parent... but anyone can help a foster child. life's the food that brings us together. and kitchens where every meal is the most important of the day. >> pam: at least 10 americans who may have been exposed ebola and sierra leone are being flown back to the united states. none of them have been diagnosed with ebola. the cdc says they will be monitored to see whether they show any symptoms. they will be house near the university of nebraska medical center in omaha, the national institute of health in maryland or every university hospital in atlanta. an american aid worker net loan to the u.s. last week after contracting ebola in west africa is now listed in critical condition. >> pam: place the los angeles are not for one of their own. today authorities issued an arrest warrant for the first year cop in connection with a deadly shooting. investigators say an result was shot and killed 23 year-old man early friday morning and put no more pomona then authorities think the two got into a fight prior to the shooting yesterday police recovered solaces car a few blocks away from where the shooting happened authorities say with the officer should be considered armed and dangerous. >> pam: march madness is fast approaching the billions of dollars that employers will lewd from all those games. >> reporter: the some passing drops from north beach down into daly city will talk about rain this upcoming weekend. my tempur-pedic made me fall in love with mornings agai i love how it conforms to my body with tempur-pedic the whole bed is comfortable. it's the best thing we ever did for oursels. it's helping to keep us youn (vo) visit your local retailer and feel the tempur-pedic difference for yoursf. >> reporter: here in oakland three more rest amid made in the shooting of some male peers the mother that was yielding a children from gunfire in front of curr home. 29 year-old shelton was arrested and police are crediting the community for helping them to make arrest in this case. the shooting of some male peers the mother of three the was trying to say for children >> reporter:, the festa gators in san francisco harsh surprise if they've only got a few tips in the death of this homeless man in despair of the video this surveillance video shows these threesomes suspects were attacking him unprovoked and they haven't gotten any leads so they can get them off the streets. >> reporter: in another big story here in pittsburgh the real war was shut down for several hours because of this. take a look this the driver of this big rig lost control of his vehicle as it was heading down railroad he had several vehicles if he ultimately crashed into this restaurant and was pronounced dead the scene and is a miracle that no one else got injured. >> reporter: is bound that traffic in the caldecott tunnel was a mess in the morning commute. mess because of to car crashes that happen in the tunnel. the cars caught on fire at in a berry that location. caltrans was expect inspecting the road to see it was good enough for to be reopened. it was shut down and for lanes down to two lanes. traffic was backed up for miles unfortunately none of the drivers were injured. >> reporter: former san francisco great macdonell has filed a lawsuit against a woman that is cop accused him of sexual assault. kron 4 currently is not naming the woman. mcdonald says the sheik and him engaged in consensual sex and that's the on lot of lawsuits the charges of sexual assault charges are false totally false. the san francisco district attorney is deciding try to decide whether not charges will be filed. >> pam: the millionaire heir of a wealthy new york family is facing merger murder charges after being featured in an hbo documentary on his life. catherine heenan is here with the strange story of robert byrd and comments that led to the arrest. >> catherine: is strange in this on video the whole thing will be interesting to watch. authorities are hoping they can use robert durst own words to convict him of murder. and the true crime series called the jinx dirt's cook appeared to confess to three murders. for more than 30 years law- enforcement officials from three states have been on the case of robert byrd's hoping for a break. he has been connected to three murders. his wife kathy in 1980 to his close friend susan berman in 2000 and a journalist who once worked in san francisco and a neighbor moore's black in 2001. an extraordinary extraordinary twist brought robert durst was caught on a bathroom break while doing an interview for hbo. he apparently forgot he left his microphone turned on. producers did not realize for months that this that happened. the apparent calm fashion finally discovered by an editor. prosecutors hope those words and other evidence will finally lead to a conviction. robert bars was in court today in norman's and agreed to be returned to los angeles to face murder charges. his attorney still claim they do not believe there is enough evidence to connect them to the murder. the case at the forefront the shooting death of fit of 15 years ago of susan berman she was killed in new york just as prosecutors were trying to interview or after an investigation into the murder of a person's wife was reopened berman has been acting as is on official spokesperson dirt's attorneys may try to keep it h b all camera comments out of court. it's not clear yet when durst will be returned to los angeles for another trial he was acquitted years ago in the death of his neighbor. a jury believe that the met was accidently killed as robert durst was defending himself. >> reporter: storm track for its most of picking up on rain jobs that are not hitting the surface. we still have a chance of an isolated sprinkle. most of us will stay dry with fairly cloudy conditions in the early part of tomorrow and the temperatures will be a bit cooler. in mid to upper 50s close to the colts line tomorrow morning. winds will be 10 to 20 mi. an hour. temperatures expected be even warmer tomorrow afternoon upper 60s along the coastline and mid-70s around the bay shore. the law if wednesday is the official last full day of winter. middle '70s as we have along the bay. we have the possibility of isolated showers friday and saturday. >> pam: coming up next is consider one of the greatest boxers of all time and is probably more known for his troubles outside the ring the died that dynamic duo teaming up for a priapic on mike tyson. my name is bret hembree. i am an electric crew foreman out of the cupertino service center. i was born and raised in the cupertino area. it's a fantastic area to work. the new technology that we are installing out in the field is important for the customers because system reliability i believe is number one. pg&e is always trying to plan for the future and we are always trying to build something stronger and bigger and more reliable. i love living here and i love the community i serve. nobody wants to be without power. i don't want my family to be without power. it's much more personal to me for that reason. i don't think there's any place i really would rather be. you can find a new frontier. there's nothing stopping you and a lot helping you. technology that's with you always. this is our promise. it's never been better to wander because wherever you go, you'll find us doing everything we can, so you can. >> grant: mike tyson's epic rise and fall is headed to the big screen. critically acclaimed director martin scorsese and academy award winning actor jimmy fox are teaming up for a bi topic on the former heavyweight should boxing champion. tyson is apparently on board to carry it on if you to page ties sent tyson asked fans to big is best not doubt that will be featured in the movie. in 1980 scorsese all directed the boxing clacks classic raging bull start robert deniro. that film won two oscars including best actor for robert deniro. >> pam: coming up next on the insider at singer elton john boycotting dolce and about not. the bitter war of words over in in vitro fertilization and that's next his seventh foul by entertainment tonight at 7:30 p.m. then we're back with kron 4 and news new that date. >> pam: kron 4 is getting ready for baseball. our special baseball by the bay heir is this friday and 9:00 p.m.. we file spring training with the a's and the world champion giants as they gear up with the regular season that is this friday at 9:00 p.m. following kron 4 news at eight. and kitchens where every meal is the most important of the day. the volkswagen jetta is really fun-to-drive. go for it. okay. wow... woohoo! i'm dreaming... pinch me. no, not while you're driving. and, right now, you can get a one-thousand-dollar volkswagen credit bonus on jetta models. seriously, pinch me. it's not a dream. ow! it's the volkswagen stop dreaming, start driving event. stop dreaming, and test-drive one today. hurry in and you can get 0% apr plus a $1000 volkswagen credit bonus on 2015 jetta and passat models. life's the food that brings us together. and kitchens where every meal is the most important of the day. >> gary: convening everybody and you're a gambler and our audience to say ready and a matter of moments and we done this for the last 25 year brad do you would tell you what would sure money on ncaa tournament. i notice you deny them a little bit of leather are thinking that the gambling spirit. even if not a sports fan and a good one and a lot about golan have a select your office bracken is coming momentarily. a little bit of courage coming off his 25 points and 11 assists on this 27th birthday. the in the warriors are just a few minutes away from tipping off on the lost angeles lakers. who backs up curving when he needs a break as livingston sean livingston. >>: were competing to play better each game and not turn fall in the trap of looking at the schedule or looking at a team record wise. all these guys were in the nba we have a sense of pride. >> gary: warriors the lakers and a couple of minutes. oakland night for the oak brook oakland a's is april 6th of the oakland coliseum. police thises and those. and then he had dinner in his role from left them spring trainings the office seven weeks of stuff. young's study as gonna start with accounts april 6th. one of a baseball special for you in new have to be a died in what sports fan you have to chew tobacco or used profanities. i'm bringing >>end: >>:darya just in case the show bombs and they can blame it all on may. as gonna be one hour of excitement this friday night and begins right after pam moore says that's and those see you at 11. >>: also started growing in out a consumer read >> gary: that the facial hair and that action on we always like that in high school. >>: i will a new kind of did that tunnel vision and that competitive streak. the best show on do little >> gary: chandelle little will be on the program. stanford is going to the ncaa tournament the women's division with the california golden bears bear the got his wichita state. northridge in stanford will be opening up. j.w. marriott in a hotel in indianapolis a giant bracket as on the side of the hotel. and chorus or will crime lab is and will bracket to. it is a sellout to bracket on kron 4 dock, the kron-4- dot-com. but 27 years in a row. >> gary: brad was a great player and he built the city college basketball program to one of the best in the country. your final for you got right now >>: will be kentucky was kazantzakis and virginia. wisconsin. >> gary: 4 can >>: dave have 10 pros on the tame 10 nba guys so they're not gonna lose. >> gary: you always hear that it's brad is good start friendswood bop. is good friends with bob knight appear knight does not like them all so you think is kentucky kentucky the gonna win this easy. brad is already given away the renter kentucky so the west are so winner... >>: they don't fall five fouls and the whole gamut us a big bet factor in any close game. the just marked which is rare also the spot now days. >> gary: every year he is the like dick bennett his son is now tony bennett coaching virginia a chip off the old blood not the singer. i think he's the best technical >> gary: guns that has high hopes regular season but they don't ever get past the fire late are anything to make a little for further >>: on that goal further. they're barely good shooting. really good at shooting >> gary: said ucla have been and >>: know they should not have died of them alight should abandon >> gary: 7 cut of coach college buddy and preferred coming nearer come in here. how about a guy you know very well the line right. you worked with this guy. delon wright.. the great player and a really good gonna >> gary: do then and now he's tried three other stations on all the data set out take him and i appreciate that. thank you brad brad do give us the great brand dugan. >> pam: coming up march madness is taking over but all those games, cost to plant fans and employers. >> reporter: a popular bay area fashion retailers using new technology to shop for women's shoes ride be sure to check and get a p.m. for the tech report >> pam: march madness is right around the corner but snaps snot the end of some employers. employers cut loose about $2 billion in lost productivity. that's due to a loss wage paid to employees distracted by the basketball action. in 2012 ms and survey found that 86 percent of u.s. workers devote part of their workday to all things tournament term tournament. march madness basketball. >> reporter: most of us will say dry but the to be cooler tomorrow morning. through the afternoon breeze the winds will drive us out and we're looking at a warm st. paddy's day. >> pam: will continue to file and have all the latest news weather and sports coming up at 8:00 will be joined as have a nice evening. to train service dogs for people with disabilities. i would never imagine a life without an 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♪ why do you build me up cruise control. the guy who has so many people singing together, on the world's busiest freeway. how being stuck in endless l.a. traffic is finally fun, with everyone in tune. ♪ i need you more than anyone darling ♪ >> all i can say is somewhere diane sawyer is smiling. that's her favorite song. remember, she had a music video to it? >> everybody sang that. >> can we see that? >> yeah. >> if there's a god in heaven we'll be seeing that, soon. >> made a lot of people happy in l.a. we're going to get to that in a little bit. we have a lot of news to get to this morning. >> we certainly do. we have new details how the terrorists pulled off their massive attack at the upscale mall in kenya. renting a store where they stashed their weapons and planned their attack. let's get right to that. mr. smith goes to washington moment for the tea party right now. there you see the texas senator, ted cruz, has been holding the senate floor since just after 2:00 yesterday afternoon, all to show how much he wants to block president obama's health care law from taking hold next week. and abc's jeff zeleny tracking it all night long. good morning, jeff. you look okay. >> reporter: good morning, george. this freshman firebrand from texas is really holding an all-night crusade. but this is no ordinary policy debate. he talked about dr. seuss. and in the wee night hour, he even invoked the reality show "duck dynasty." let's take a look. >> most americans could not give a flying flip about politicians in washington. who cares? almost all of us are in cheap shows with bad hair cuts. i will embarrassingly admit that i took the coward's way out. and so, went and purchased some black tennis shoes. i'm a big fan of eating white castle burgers. redneck rule number one, most things can be fixed with duct tape and extension cords. do you like green eggs and ham? i do not like them, sam i am. i do not like green eggs and ham. thank you. thank you, sam i am. >> reporter: and there the senator's daughter getting a little good night from their dad from the senate floor. you have to get creative on these long speeches. jeff, we know he's not going to be able to block the president's health care bill from becoming law. does not have the support for that. but this does increase the chance of a government shutdown on monday. >> it does, george. and largely because time is running out. this debate stretching out all night long, means the vote by the senate won't happen until the weekend. the government shutdown could start as early as tuesday morning. and all of this talking has done nothing to prevent that. >> not any closer. okay. jeff zeleny, thanks very much. now to president obama at the u.n. and the talk this morning about what did not happen. the iranian president, deciding not to shake president obama's hand. good to have abc's jon karl here, traveling with the president, of course. >> it's great to be back. there was no handshake. but the new iranian president is here on a major charm offensive. all week in new york, he's supreme courting directly to the american people, stepping away from his predecessor's most controversial comments, and saying he wants better relations with the united states. in an interview with cnn's christiane amanpour, iranian president hassan rouhani broke into english. and made an appeal directly to the american people. >> i bring peace and friendship from iranians to americans. >> reporter: just a year ago, a different iranian president came to new york, denying the holocaust ever happened. rouhani seemed to back away from that. >> translator: any crime that happens in history against humanity, including the crime the nazis created towards the jews, is reprehensible and condemnable. >> reporter: elected just three months ago, rouhani calls himself a moderate and says he wants better ties with the west. in a sign that warmer ties only go so far, rouhani rebuffed an offer from president obama to meet for what would have been a highly symbolic and historic handshake. >> translator: i believe we didn't have sufficient time to really coordinate the meeting. >> reporter: hand shake or not, president obama used his speech at the u.n. to suggest an historic move to improve ties with one of america's dangerous adversaries could be in the works. >> i don't believe this difficult history can be overcome overnight. the suspicions run too deep. but i do believe that if we can resolve the issue of iran's nuclear program, that can serve as a major step down a long road towards a different relationship. >> reporter: the handshake or not, the u.s. and iran are poised to make a little history tomorrow. secretary of state john kerry is scheduled to meet with the iranian leaders to kick off a new round of talks on iran's nuclear program. it's the first time we've had a secretary of state talk to the iranians about their nuclear program. >> it's a little history. it's a bit. >> great to have you here. thank you. now, to the terrorist attack in kenya. the latest death toll at 61. dozens still missing. three days of national mourning set to begin for the victims. and there are big questions this morning about the identities of the attackers as we learn more about the amazing survival stories as well. alex marquardt is on the ground. good morning, alex. >> reporter: there were gunshots coming from the mall again this morning. a government spokesman said it was troops going from room-to-room, to clear it out. and this morning, there's dramatic new information about how the attackers planned the attack on the mall from inside for months. the aftermath of the siege. forensics teams are now scouring the rubble for the bodies of civilians and terrorists, buried after three floors of the mall collapsed. as kenyan troops cleared the mall on tuesday, black plumes of smoke rose amid loud explosions and bursts of gunfire. this morning, we're learning more about how the terrorists pulled off the attack. for three months, they operated a store inside the mall, where they may have stashed weapons. from there, they were able to carry out reconnaissance and study the building's layout. it's believed some of the attackers packed a change of clothes. to slip out with the fleeing masses. there are stunning stories and images of survival. this family, playing dead until a plain clothes police officer comes to their rescue. today, we're hearing from a survivor who said he spoke with the gunman. >> he asked, is this your woman? i said, yes. yes, she is. he said, ask her to cover up. and then, he pointed the gun and said, leave. >> reporter: this 19-year-old hid from the attackers for four hours under a pile of suitcases. while in hiding her brothers texted her. warning that the attackers were killing non-muslims so he sent her an islamic prayer to memorize. and then, there's american bendita malakia, now back on u.s. soil. she says she hid in the back room of a home goods store for nearly five hour, while the terrorists attacked. >> explosions started. it was scary. >> reporter: the big question now is who exactly carried out this attack? and american forensics teams will be here, helping their kenyan counterparts to figure that out. george? >> so well planned for so long. thanks to alex for that. let's get the other top stories from josh. >> we're going to begin with the federal budget showdown causing jitters. on wall street, the dow falling for a fourth day in a row. those worries also spreading overseas now. the markets in europe and asia which posted losses overnight as well on fears of a possible u.s. government default. and in oklahoma, eight escaped prisoners triggered a massive manhunt yesterday. private guards transporting them stopped at a hospital to treat one for chest pains. the guards took him inside. the problem is, they left eight others in the van with the keys and the gun. they took off but thankfully they were all back in custody. and the death toll from a powerful earthquake in pakistan is climbing into the hundreds. the strangest result, now, a new island off pakistan's coast. you see it there. 100 feet long, roughly 200 feet wide. it could eventually recede back into the waters. another natural disaster in china has displaced 300,000 people and that guy. or gal. we're not quite sure. the two-ton hippopotamus escaped in the flood watters from a nearby zoo. a seal and two turtles also got away. we're told all are safely back to the zoo. and a bill to protect the children of celebrities from the paparazzi is now law in california. halle berry and jennifer garner testified in support of the law which increases the penalties for photographers who harass children. paparazzi can now face up to a year in jail. and check this out. everybody is going to be okay. but it's a car race in europe, the driver losing control over a wall into the water. both passengers in that car walked away from this. just don't try anything remotely close to this at home. finally, what could be the greatest come-from-behind victory in this sport's history could be achieved today on the waters of san francisco bay. that's where the american team has fought back in the america's cup, winning eight-straight races against a team from new zealand. the u.s. had been down eight victories to one. but hitting speeds around 45 miles per hour in their $100 million-plus catamaran, the u.s. this week has completely reversed course. they tied it up winning twice yesterday. and now, today, there will be one final race, winds permitting, winner take all. >> they're hauling. >> and we're not good morning, new zealand. get it done, fellas. get it done. come on. bring it home. >> that's amazing. >> looks even faster. >> yeah. >> i should go to san francisco to cover it. >> nice try there, josh. stay right where you are. now, to the urgent new recommendation to make cars safer. the national highway traffic safety administration wants all new cars to have rear-view cameras to prevent children from being mistakenly backed over. this, just as a lawsuit was being filed today to force the government to act on this issue. abc's david kerley is in washington with much more on this. good morning, david. >> reporter: good morning, robin. the timing on these backup cameras is interesting. the recommendation comes just as the lawsuit is going to be filed this morning by safety advocates, demanding that the obama transportation department do something that congress ordered six years ago. that's make a rule for these backup cameras to try and save kids' lives. this morning, the government says it will add rear-view cameras in cars as a recommended feature in new vehicles. sounds like a breakthrough. but it's not according to safety advocates, who are fed up with the obama administration. congress ordered the administration to have a rule in place by 2011. a rule on cameras, not a recommendation. >> adding this as a recommendation, simply just underscores that it's an option for a car. my daughter had darted out of the front door. >> reporter: susan's then 3-year-old daughter darted behind her car in 2005, as it was backing up. with young kate screaming after being run over, her mother was beside herself over what she had done. >> her face was covered in blood. her clothing was torn from the impact. and she was screaming, asking me why i had hit her with the car. >> reporter: the numbers are stunning. on average, every year, 210 deaths, mostly 1-year-old and 2-year-old children. that's four a week. on top of that, there are 15,000 injuries each year. her daughter survived and is now 11. but she and another parent, along with three safety organizations, are, this morning, suing the president's transportation administration, saying it is dragging its feet and ignoring congress. the auto industry says more than half of new cars have some backup detection system. and adds, the consumers, not the government, should decide whether cameras come with the car. now, what's interesting is if these cars beep as they're backing up. and some cars have an automatic braking system, so as you get close to an object, the car would actually stop. but the lawsuit would make this a rule, not just a recommendation, as we mentioned. now, to the first sign of what jobs are out this holiday season. the first announcements from america's big retailers are in. and rebecca jarvis is here with who is hiring and how many and what it says about the strength of our economy. good morning. >> good morning, george. and it says a number of things about the strength of our economy. we're learning which companies are adding temporary workers this holiday. and how many jobs they'll be offering, likely about 670,000 workers in total this holiday season. with the bulk of hiring happening in october. so, if you're looking for a temporary job, now is the time to get those applications in. some of the big names adding now, walmart, kohl's, target, jcpenney and toys "r" us. walmart is hiring about 55,000 seasonal workers. that's 5,000 more jobs than last year. but target is hiring 70,000 workers. that's a pretty big number, yes? but it's a 20% drop from a year ago. >> so, when you add it all up, what does it say about where we are right now? >> it says these companies are learned to do more with less. we see it on the shelves. we see less inventory in many cases. and also seeing it in the stores. fewer people working because more people are shopping online. >> thank you very much. >> appreciate that. now, to the michael jackson wrongful death lawsuit. closing arguments under way. jackson's family asking a jury for up to $1.5 billion in damages. from a concert promoter. as abc's david wright reports, the late pop star, very much a presence in the courtroom. >> katherine jackson versus aeg live. >> reporter: who is to blame for the king of pop's death? that billion-dollar question, which has played out in this l.a. courtroom for five months, will finally be in the hands of the jury in a matter of hours. michael jackson's immediate family, now asking a jury to award $1.5 billion in damages. attorney brian panish, representing katherine jackson and michael jackson's three children, argued that concert promoter, aeg live, is liable for hiring dr. conrad murray. murray prescribed the fatal dose of propofol that killed jackson. >> he swore not to do harm, but he did. why did he do it? >> reporter: aeg insists the company is not to blame for the pop star's death. that murray was jackson's employee, not theirs. but panish argued this e-mail proves otherwise. >> we need to remind dr. murray that aeg, not m.j., that's paying him. >> reporter: that incriminating message, sent by top aeg executives less than two weeks before jackson's death. on the witness stand, the executives did their best to disavow it. >> i don't remember. >> i don't remember. >> reporter: on tuesday, the jacksons' lawyer appealed to the jury's emotions. showing heartbreaking home videos of michael jackson with his kids. today, aeg's lawyer makes his closing argument. he has a tough act to follow. for "good morning america," david wright, abc news, los angeles. >> five months. five months hearing testimony. >> yeah. really pulled the heart strings there. going to switch gears now. very strange story. take a look at there. patrick the gorilla, sorting through some relationship issues. he gets along great with humans. his fellow gorillas, not so much. therapy has not helped. his keepers are taking more extreme measures. and abc's nick watt explains. >> reporter: patrick, the 430-pound gorilla, just loves us humans. he's a fun-loving big fella. >> he's quite special. >> reporter: when it comes to hanging out with his own kind -- >> he's had some challenges. >> reporter: you see, patrick's mum abandoned him. he was raised by humans. with us, he's all bernie from "zoo keeper." >> you won't know i'm there. >> reporter: but with the other gorillas at the zoo -- he's the biggest -- patrick gets all "king kong" about it. >> patrick displayed some of that behavior over the years. >> reporter: he's not a lady's man. instead of mating, he's getting up in their grille and pushing them around. so, patrick has no gorilla friends in dallas. none. they tried therapy. they begged him to play nice. no choice. so, patrick moved to south carolina. his last chance to hang out with gorilla his own size. a fresh start. >> i'm probably going to cry. i'm going to miss him. i've known him for 14 years. he's a good man. >> reporter: sure, the keepers are sad. but these guys, i'll bet they can't wait to see the back of this ever so sulky silverback. for "good morning america," nick watt, abc news, los angeles. >> hope he does better in south carolina. sam, from what you said, i take it you're not going to rush down there to see patrick? >> gorillas have a powerful presence. by that, i mean smell. let's get to the boards. we're going to show you -- maybe i haven't mentioned it before. but they do. we'll show you what's going on in the deep south. remember we told you about all of the problems with the heavy rain. there was flooding in the streets. from southern mississippi to tampa, yesterday. big-time rough flooding. that's back in action again today. four, five, six inches of rain coming in some locations. today, in the bright spot east of orlando, it's likely to happen again. but i think there will be a good soaking rainfall in a lot of those locations. as far as big-time temperatures go, it's cool but comfortable in the northeast. 67 in providence, rhode island. and that perfect weather runs from the great lakes to the mid-atlantic. it's some of the best weather of the year. it's happening right now. enjoy it. good morning. i'm abc 7 news meteorologist mike nicco with your bay area microclimate forecast. feels like fall again today. breezy and cooler than average. fire danger develops tonight. it 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>> all right. and we also have a yoga teacher who gained 40 pounds on purpose to prove a point. and what she is now saying about whether her dramatic experiment was really worth it. >> dr. richard besser is going to weigh in on that. no pun intended. and we begin, though, with the brand-new video of the bizarre case of a florida couple who kidnapped their own children trying to escape to cuba. the couple is in jail awaiting trial. and for the first time, we're seeing revealing surveillance video of them. gio benitez has more on this story. >> reporter: the new video you're about to see is part of the state's evidence file. recorded in a jail holding cell, just moments after the couple was captured. accused of an elaborate kidnapping. even as they sat in a florida jail, accused of being international fugitives, in this video, you can see josh and sharon haken, hugging and kissing over and over again. apparently plotting their defense. >> about this? >> yeah. no one can know about this. >> i know. i know. >> reporter: it was this april, when the hakkens disappeared from the marina, on this boat, with their 2-year-old sons. the children's grandparents, frantically telling 911, the two boys had been taken by the hakkens, even though the parents lost custody. >> 911, what's your emergency? >> my son-in-law just kidnapped my two grandchildren. he tied me up. >> reporter: these photos police say are from inside the boat, show two car seats, a gun and ammo. for days, police searched for that boat, suspecting the hakkens had sailed off to another country. prosecutors say the hakkens had become paranoid, asking 11 countries for asylum. accusing the u.s. of, quote, hacking of our personal computers, microwave radiation weapons attacks. even drugging our food. then, just days later, a tip. cameras spotted the boat in havana, cuba. >> sorry we just didn't start the engine and try to make a run for it. >> reporter: they didn't. cuban officials alerted the u.s., earning the hakkens a trip home on a plane escorted by police. >> did you talk to him? >> no. i didn't say too much on the plane. >> that's okay. >> i'm sorry. >> it's okay. >> reporter: the videos and letters are part of the evidence the state says it will present when the couple goes on trial for fallny kidnapping charges. the hakkens have pled not guilty. and according to these surveillance tapes, are planning how to handle their release. and the hakkes are still in jail, being held without bond. and base charges of kidnapping, child imprisonment and child neglect. >> we're going to bring in chief legal affairs anchor, dan abrams. so much about this case is bizarre. >> you have both parents here, being told they can't have custody of the kids. apparently, they delusional. when the authorities showed up, they were smoking marijuana, with the kids scheming. and the kids try to steal their kids back. we see the seeds of a defense, with regard to her. her lawyer now suggesting that she was beaten by him. so, expect to see the wife start to say, well, i was the victim here. and not just a perpetrator. >> the video we saw, they looked like they were pretty close. how will that video impact the case? >> it's going to be really important. there are almost confessions on there. talking about how they did. why they did it. how to avoid getting caught. they started talking about the jodi arias case on this. remember, jodi arias got caught because she did this and that. we need to avoid doing that, as they sit being recorded on a tape about exactly what they're saying. >> and the exact that cuba freely gave them back. >> a lot of people were surprised. not people who know the cuban government that well. but there's been a lot of cases where the cubans said, we're not helping. we have no extradition treaty with the united states. why did they do it in this case? i don't think they wanted these people. they have no interest in them. what do we want these guys for? >> thankfully, the children are okay. >> back with the maternal grandparents. >> the jury's out. coming up in our 8:00 hour. >> looking forward to it. now, a shocking story. a college student trying to play out one of the world's most popular and violent video games in real life. the young man stole a car and went on a spree straight out of grand theft auto. and abc's john muller has all of the details on that crime-filled night. >> reporter: police say zachary burgess, seen here in his booking photo, stole a pickup truck and went on a dangerous joyride in baton rouge. all because they say he failed to separate fantasy from reality. >> he had been playing the video game grand theft auto. and wanted to see if it was as fun in real life. >> reporter: what happened next, sounds like a scene from that popular but controversial video game. where characters rob, carjack and kill their way to the top of an urban underworld. >> zachary sees a vehicle running in a parking lot. there's a female passenger inside the car. he jumps into the car. >> reporter: police allege in the process, burgess smashed into nine cars, sending two people to the hospital. >> he wouldn't speak to me. he was in the zone. >> reporter: the woman eventually jumped out, before burgess allegedly slammed into this fence and into a wall. >> i sprinted out here. i watched him caught up on the brick wall here, spinning the tires. >> reporter: last year in albuquerque, an 11-year-old boy allegedly inspired by grand theft auto, stole his family's car. he would barely see over the wheel. police were able to stop the vehicle before there was an accident. >> we're seeing cases of kids emulating the games because the games are so realistic. they want the sensation of the real experience in real-life. >> reporter: the maker of grand theft auto did not return our request for comment. it's the latest version of the game that made history last week. grossing $1 billion in the first three days of its release. this morning, burgess is out on bond, charged with stealing the car along with kidnapping and nine counts of hit and run. but unlike the video game, if found guilty, he faces the real prospect of jail. for "good morning america," john muller, abc news, new york. >> all you do is just shake your head. >> stunning story. time, now, again -- i don't see anything good on that map behind you sam. >> no. but first, robin. this is good. let's go to the video. i want you to see the full thing. does the moon rotate on its axis. we went to the experts and it's yes. it's impossible to see it the earth because we're also rotating. this is 110,000 images put together in a loop, to show you the full lunar rotation cycle. and it takes about 27.5 days to make that rotation. >> fascinating. >> the first time ever seeing it on your television. thank you. let's take a look at what's going on towards the west. 63. 58. well, i could have done that. but it just seemed -- either one could have worked. 63 in seattle. this is the 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there they are. cell phones. smartphones. >> are those glued together? that's quite a stack. >> this morning, we're going to talk about a new kind of challenge. so many people are trying it. it's called phone stacking. dan abrams. the jury is out. is that a good idea or bad idea? >> of course, dan standing by, however silently. ready to bring us the jury is out. we weigh in on topics of the morning. how do we all feel about putting your phones in the middle of the table and not reaching for them while we dine? >> save it. >> the jury's out. >> we'll talk later. also coming up, the yoga teacher who gained 40 pounds, to prove a point. and what she says about whether her dramatic experiment was worth it and how it impacted her. they are the hollywood couple that everybody's rooting for. michael douglas and catherine zeta-jones. they're making headlines about a possible breakup or separation. today, we're talking about their friends who are really telling us how the couple is trying to save their marriage. and we're all rooting for them. that's coming up up. first, news from josh. >> we're going to start with the all-night talk-a-thon, by ted cruz of texas. he started around 2:00 p.m. yesterday to protest obama care. at one point, the len lech turn reading "green eggs and ham." and three days of mourning under way for the victims of the mall attack in nairobi. we are learning more about the people that carried it out. officials say they operated a store inside that mall for months. may have been stashing weapons there the entire time. some may have slipped away in the chaos. in south dakota, a possible break in a decades' old cold case. human remains were found in a car that was submerged in a creek. police believe they could be those of two teens that disappeared in 1971. those girls would now be turning 60 years old. their families have been notified. and incoming u.s. army recruits are facing a new crackdown on their tattoos. new rules prohibit new soldiers from being tattoos that show below e elbows and knees or above the neckline. and we showed you this a bit earlier. 24-year-old daredevil, rich kmetter, breaking his old record, by walking three football fields on that line. it took nearly 3 weeks and 35 attempts to do it. now, he says he wants to add about ten yards to his record every year. happy birthday to you. you're a better man than us, that's for sure. how about a little music for the traffic jam. ♪ why do you build me up buttercup, baby ♪ >> that's comedian t.j. smith, driving through traffic on the 405, the world's busiest freeway. a multicamera shoot. rolling down his windows and singing "build me up buttercup," diane sawyer's very favorite. diane, this is for you. and for everybody on the 405. in another video, he jams to the backstreet boys, i guess. earns some smiles along the way. making it fun to drive on the 405, that is physically impossible. >> yeah. >> however -- >> you bring up the video. of diane sawyer, her last day here on "good morning america." we were very sad to see her go. and it's her favorite song. we did kind of like this -- you can roll tape anytime now. there you go. ♪ you build me up buttercup baby ♪ ♪ when you let me down >> this is for you, diane. ♪ when you say you will i love you still ♪ ♪ i need you i need you ♪ ♪ more than anyone, darling la, la, la, la ♪ >> you can't help but be in a good mood when you hear it. >> yeah. very nice. >> better here than the 405. >> exactly. >> a blast from the past. now, "pop news," lara. >> let's do it, everybody. good morning to you. and the show must go on. despite really feeling under the weather. justin timberlake refused to let his fans down, giving a free concert to the crowd in hollywood. it was part of an appearance on jimmy kimmel. jimmy, putting on gloves and whipping out the medical kit. >> i received a doctorate. over the summer. >> i heard this. >> uh-huh. >> you like to prefer to yourself as dr. kimmel. >> i am a doctor. so, yes. i do like to refer to myself as a doctor. >> the diagnosis. a tko performance. and then, j.t., right back. he hung in there. he popped back as we always say. and he gave the crowd, as you see, a fabulous performance. also in "pop news." the buzz meets the booze. e.l. james making fifty shades of grey wine. it's here. it's happening. two personally blended wines. there's the red satin and the white silk. the red is a petit and the red has liche. >> could you say petit sirah in the breathiness? >> i love it. >> with liche. 17 areas in the book involve wine. and the author says she hopes you enjoy the romance between anastasia and christian grey. >> did you count there were 17 moments in the book? >> i did, okay. >> all right. okay. finally in "pop news." an abandon ginger tabby cat turned up in texas weighing 42 pounds. so fat, he had trouble walking. they give him the name skinny. that's working to make him just that. a grueling workout routine. >> the world's happiest cat. >> underwater treadmill every day for a year. skinny is getting there. he has lost almost half of his weight. he can jump up on the couch by himself. and why he gained so much weight, a new study has concluded that fat pets eat as a coping mechanism, much in the same way that humans do. thank you. this "pop news" is brought to you by fifty shades of grey wine. let's get some weather. >> can i have the rest of your egg and cheese sandwich because i need to cope. >> yes. >> i know it's there. i know it's there. let's get to the -- >> i think it's true. >> a coping mechanism. >> let's get to the boards. george, i say one or two people would say washington is stagnant. but i might show you the skies and say it is beautiful. look at the capitol. we thank you for that picture, steve. look at this area of high pressure that's moved in. it's part of the reason why the skies are so great. look at green bay, at 67 degrees. or washington, d.c. at 76. these are the perfect days of september. these are the best the season has to offer. chicago, 75 on thursday. 78 on friday. and dallas, still on the hot side. atlanta, 73 degrees today. good morning. i'm abc 7 news meteorologist mike nicco with your bay area microclimate forecast. feels like fall again today. breezy and cooler than average. fire danger develops tonight. it will be calmer and warmer this weekend. today's temperatures, how about 60s around the coast, san francisco, richmond, oakland, san mateo and san jose. everybody else in the low to mid-70s. above 1,000 feet fire danger starts tonight. below that we'll be in the 40s and 50s. the fire danger rolls >> that was science, lara. i know it was brought to you by someone. i can't remember who it was. >> brought to you by fifty shades of grey wine. here's what's coming up on our "gma morning menu." is a hollywood ending ahead for michael douglas and catherine zeta-jones. and a yoga teacher that put on 40 pounds to prove a point. and the pressure to turn off your phone. inside phone stacking. the jury's out. we got that and more. all coming up on "good morning america." 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[ cheers and applause ] hello. happy birthday, dad. >> wonderful crowd outside. beautiful day here in new york city. a little chilly. we begin with the "heat index," with a possible hollywood ending for michael douglas and catherine zeta-jones. friends are speaking out about their marriage and how they're working to save it. abc's linzie janis is here, with the possible good news. >> reporter: "people" magazine has been speaking to friends of the couple. they've been split up for the past four months. but according to friends, they're not ready to give up. this morning, friends of michael douglas and katherine zeta-jones may be close to reconciling. douglas thanked his wife at his emmy speech. "people" magazine is reporting the two-time academy award winning actor told them, quote, we're working things out. talking. and we'll see how she goes. in the current issue of the magazine hitting newsstands on friday, friends of the 44-year-old actress say the couple is trying to save their marriage. >> the friends are telling us that they're really not giving up. and it's definitely not contentious between them right now. >> reporter: the husband and wife of 13 years have not spent time together recently, friends tell "people," they are in constant communication. >> with the school year getting started, catherine will be in bedford with her kids. >> reporter: the couple's fairly tale marriage began to hit a rough patch in 2010, when douglas was diagnosed with cancer. adding to that, jones' own issues. treatment for bipolar disorder. in may, douglas talked with elizabeth vargas about the illness. >> it reminded me when i had to come out about the cancer. just clears up a lot of rumors. >> reporter: zeta-jones made her first public appearance since the separation was announced on sunday, at a red carpet event in china. "people" magazine reports that even though the actress was 6,000 miles away, she sent douglas a note, just before the emmys. >> if they lean towards saving their marriage, it will probably be because of their focus on saving their family. >> reporter: long-time friend of douglas told "people" magazine, quote, it's as though cancer and marriage problems knocked him around and made him a different man. today is a special day. they were both born on september 25th. >> that's right. >> a great day. >> that's got to be a challenge. the age gap thing. >> good to hear the positive news. >> thanks for bringing that to us. also buzzing on the heat index, the yoga instructor who says she gained 40 pounds in 4 months to teach others about accepting their bodies. and instead, wound up learning a very tough lesson herself. abc's reena ninan has that story. >> reporter: the celebrity bodies you can't help but covet. from jennifer aniston, to gwyneth paltrow, even sting. and it's all thanks to yoga. why did this texas yoga teacher intentionally pack on 40 pounds. it began when trina hall received a call from her best friend and yoga teacher and was dealing with her weight issues. >> my best friend called me, crying on the phone. she didn't want to be known as the fat yoga teacher. that set hall on a mission, to prove that being fat didn't matter. >> what is life really about? are we concerned so much with the physical? or is it something else? >> reporter: in four, short months, hall went from 135 pounds to 175. >> i was eating a lot of mexican food. i'm a big fan of cheese. inhale has you come up. >> reporter: but would yoga students take classes from an overweight instructor? >> i was afraid that people wouldn't take me seriously. >> reporter: in a surprising twist, it was hall who distressed at her left. the 40 pounds weighing on her self-esteem. >> there were days i didn't want to leave the house. one day, i was crying for no reason. >> reporter: experts say it's dangerous to gain weight so quickly. >> it's negative on you mentally. >> reporter: hall is getting back to her thinner, health self. she went from a size 14 to an 8. >> i'm eating a lot of leafy greens and vegetables and fish. >> reporter: hall says she was surprised by some of the lessons she learned. >> we want to be loved, regardless of size, shape or beliefs. we want to feel that. >> reporter: for "good morning america," reena ninan, abc news, new york. >> we've been buzzing about this with our chief medical editor, richard besser. it's never good rapid gain weight or loss. >> you put on weight too fast, it's going to throw off your metabolism. you lose weight too fast, in addition to losing fat, you're going to lose lean muscle. one to two pounds per week is recommended for weight loss. >> and she talked about the psychological effects of gaining the extra weight. >> that's incredible. we are an anti-fat society. and in young children, it shows up with bullying. in adults, there's job discrimination, health care discrimination. i thought it was fascinating to see how she felt differently about herself, as she put on the pounds. >> you posed a question on twitter. what was the question? >> i asked people if they felt comfortable that they would feel comfortable taking an exercise or yoga class from someone who was overweight. it was pretty split. some people overweight say i feel uncomfortable going into an exercise class because of my body. i would feel more comfortable if the instructor looked a little more like me. yeah. >> as long as the person looks healthy. >> as long as they're healthy and can do their job. i practice yoga. and for years, i would never do it because i'm not flexible. i don't feel coordinated. and my wife got me into a class, yoga for the stiff guy. it was perfect. and so, i didn't feel intimidated. and no one could do it. we were all the same. and having an overweight instructor would be the same thing. >> i want to point out, seeing the photos. she looks normal. there's a sense of normalcy that people see there. i think it's more power to her and everybody else. >> dr. besser, namaste. >> you have to go. >> very good. dan abrams in. "the jury's out." >> little stretching. >> a lot to talk today. >> we do. >> coming back with "the jury's out." second time we're trying it. we have hot topics. >> first up on the docket, the french senate has voted to ban child beauty contests for any kids under the age of 16. >> yes. >> the question is, is it time to do it here in the u.s.? my take. no. i find these contests disgusting. but now, the government is going to start telling you what kind of contest you can enter your kid into? 6, 10, 14-year-old models, it's okay. but not in one of these contests? we can't legislate parenting like this. >> sam can be such a libertarian. >> it's hard. i disagree with the pageant thing. and for young kids. you're right, the government can't tell you what to do. >> i agree. >> i agree. >> i agree. >> i agree with him on this one. >> yeah? >> yeah. >> really. >> well, then we -- >> we're all saying -- child pageants are just wrong. >> how do you stop it? in france, they're saying it's time to let people get it out. >> all of the tv shows on it, either. >> that's right. and i'll tell you, though, as you're not surprised to hear, the vast majority disagree with now us, i just thought me. little girls shouldn't be paraded around like pieces of meat. we agree on that. and the jury's out poll. should beauty pageants be banned for children under 16? 89% of people said yes. >> we're saying that child beauty pageants are wrong. when you get into it, should it be the government deciding that for us? maybe not. >> the parents. >> right. >> i don't agree with 89%. >> i do. >> who want the government to step in. >> i think people hate these things so much. >> i don't know, george. i agree with you. if asked, do you want the government to make that decision for your family? people would come back and change that number. next up on the docket, innocent victims of the war in syria or the recent terror attack in nairobi, are referred to as women and children. is it time to stop using that phrase? my take. absolutely. it's a great way to tug on our heart strings. but women are adults like men. and to suggest they're more helpless, is sexist, and even absu absurd. >> i like innocent victims. that's all-encompassing. >> i didn't know this was a problem first of all. but i have no problem with it. if it gets people to think outside of themselves. and then, you start to say -- >> why throw women in? >> i think it's harmless. i don't think it's sexist or -- i think it does bring attention. i do agree to say all victims are innocent. >> and the images for that part, when you say women and children, it has the image of mothers and kids. and you want to do anything to protect that. >> it takes me back to "titanic," which is a century ago. i'm with you. as a republic, we're going to be wounded if we continue to use it. but i don't burn -- >> on facebook, a sneeze will be offensive. get over it. on twitter says, when i get equal pay for equal work, you can change the phrase. deal? >> okay. >> finally on the docket, "the new york times" has a story this weekend saying step away from the phone. all of the high-powered people trying to disconnect from their mobile devices with rules and games. i'm a mobile device addict. all of these people bragging about their the cute methods. i throw it into a tin when i arrive home. we stack the phones at dinner and whoever checks it first has to pay. is it that hard to check it when you need to? >> i know. >> it is -- it is hard. it is hard. >> you have to make rules? >> yeah. i think so. for -- i'm someone who does well with rules. i might not do well with self-control. but i do well with rules. does that make sense? >> and i think for kids. our kids now are a generation growing up. their entire lives with these things. and i think when you at least define areas when it's okay and when it's not okay, i think it's important. we get to adulthood, we can make the choices. >> it's fun to have a stacking game. i think that would be fun. >> unfortunately, it has become fashionable to be rude. and then, on twitter, on a rule, on my lunch break, i do not answer my mobile phone. my staff are aware and no longer call me. congratulations to that person who has the authority to say, i'm turning off my phone. i won't take any calls. that's it, guys. good to see you guys. "the jury is out." >> everything i say can be used against me. >> do you want to walk out, as well? >> i'm going to do some yoga. and stretches. >> wow. very flexible. two women with real ambush makeovers. also a message from katy perry. and the chefs from "the chew" are here live. good morning. i'm kristen sze. this afternoon oracle team usa will try to complete one of the most improbable comebacks in america's cup history. yesterday the defenders beat emirates team new zealand twice to tie the series at eight setting up today's winner-take-all race. the oracle team has won seven races in a row with the kiwis sitting on match point for a week. only two before in the 162-year history of the america's cup has there been a winner-takes-all final race. let's see if folks are out and about on the roadways or crawling. >> i would say crawling. fremont approaching highway 284 a crash blocking the lane northbound side of the nimitz. bumper-to-bumper behind it. san jose, this crash blocking a lane 280 northbound at meridian avenue. sluggish ride right through san sluggish ride right through san jose embrace the season. warm up your home with fall's finest. share all of your favorite t.j. finds... at a price worth posting. see the real deal. search hashtag maxxinista and see the brands people are scoring. t.j.maxx. security, butalk to the leader. tyco integrated security. we'll create a solution customized just for you. and you can manage it all right from the palm of your hand. good morning. if you're stepping out still jacket weather, most of us in the 50s, oakland the exception about 61. temperatures today are going to be below average once again. even up to 11 degrees below average and about two to nine degrees cooler than yesterday. your accuweather seven-day i don't know if people understand, that i will be at their high school. when i was in high school, i would be doing everything and anything. great lengths. so, i'll be there october 25th, if you win. >> that's a special message from katy perry, to all of you. she could be showing up at your high school, your son or daughter's high school, if that school submits a video to her smash hit, "roar." and we're airing it at school to make sure your kids know about it. >> "gma" and katy are picking the winner. it's a real thing. she's going to go to the winning school for the performance. it's just one month from today. so, you really need to get everybody involved now. here's the kicker. we'll broadcast it live on "gma." your school, katy perry, live on "gma." everybody wins. it's never happened before. >> this is great. >> maybe if we ask really nicely, she'll be joined by elton john. coming up in our next segment. he has a brand-new album, first one in a long time. intrr candid interview. we hear about his life as a father, as well. >> i think we coordinated with this. we have these two great glam squads. and they ambushed these two unsuspecting women on the street. and they're going to share those makeovers. and from the people that are very important. >> yes. our pit crew. >> that's true. >> yep. it takes a village. you'll get some great gifts out of that. let's begin the half hour. big news for all of your fans of "the chew." >> yeah. >> a brand-new cookbook called "the chew: what's for dinner?" favorite main dishes, sides, desserts. >> let's bring out the crew from "the chew." michael symon, mario batali, daphne oz. good morning. good morning. >> the gang's all here. >> all right. here we go. you're starting us out here. we can see "the chew," at 1:00 eastern and pacific. you can get the recipes we're going to show you. apparently, you have to pull a whisk from the bowl. and one will help you make the meal. >> i'm doing -- lara. okay. mario, josh. >> that was terrible. >> who goes first? >> here we go. >> oh, pork chops and a salad. >> it's supereasy. coriander, salt and sugar. season the chop. >> you have that sitting on there for an amount of time? >> you can do it immediately. two hours. and mario tomatoes, chili. >> if you like it zippier -- >> just throw a couple more in. and a little lime juice. lemon juice. add some extra virgin olive oil. and this is michael symon's greatest recipe ever. >> that is -- then, we get these on the grill. with beef and steaks, it's once. you flip it once. what is it with pork? >> same rule. give it the hard char. let it char again. you want to cook those about 150 and we're golden. >> how long is that? >> it's going to take about ten minutes. >> awesome. >> we don't have ten minutes. >> okay. >> i love that we got this here. >> you do the stirring. >> five apples, peeled, quartered, diced. cranberries. brown sugar. regular, granulated sugar. and go, go, go. >> i'm making the topping for it. i have a little bit of sugar, a pinch of salt, just a bit of baking soda. ground nutmeg. and a quarter cup milk. >> melted butter. >> there we go. >> top it on top. there we go. >> bake it for 350. it turns into that over there. >> let's eat. >> i will see your apple pie and raise you one mocktail. >> we're celebrating our two cookbooks. we're going to put some ice in here. we're going to add in some apple juice. >> got it. >> little lemon juice. >> how much? >> about a quarter of a cup. >> the whole thing? >> that's it. plus, sparkling water. and we're going to shake it. >> shake, shake, shake. and we have rimmed our glasses with the cinnamon sugar. >> when she says, as simple as this, just add it like that. >> what? >> and -- >> the mocktail. >> the wonderful people on "the chew chew." you can get all of the recipes on our website, goodmorningamerica.com on yahoo! we have so much good stuff. sam, so much good stuff. >> cheers. >> cheers. >> cheers to "the chew." >> cheers to "the chew." >> i love it. these may or may not be mocktinis. let's get to the boards. they are delicious, by the way. they really are. baton rouge, louisiana. a little bit of fog rolling in. dave, thank you for sending us the picture of baton rouge. panama city, florida. there's that stagnant front. and it makes beautiful pictures. that's the same thing in central florida. all of the rain sweeping towards the east coast of central florida today. heat rules. loredo at 99 degrees. hotter in texas again today. the heavy rain on the east coast. nice and windy on the west coast. it's okay for a breeze. when it's so dry and so warm, we're concerned about the fires going there with the strong winds. and the next snow, one to two feet above 9,000 feet in the northern rockies. that's the weather. >> the corn salad i just made, is delicious. good morning: i'm mike nicco. it's going to be cool and breezy today. in fact, the coolest day in the forecast. hardly any microclimate from 60s in the coast to 74 inland. critical fire danger starts >> take a look at that. that crispy, charred corn is amazing. all of that weather was brought to you by edward jones. lara? >> save me some. right now, abc premiere week. and the stars are coming out to play with us. our guest this morning has played more than 115 characters in a career that spans nearly 6 decades. from the oscar-nominated turn as sonny corleone. >> you didn't have to mention that. >> be proud. your work is so phenomenal. everybody upstairs is talking about their favorite role. it's james caan. i'm so happy to see you. and you're with us on a show called "back in the game." what made you want to get back in the game on to primetime? >> the rent? no. i met i was doing movies. and the movie business is not so terrific. the last three i did, the titles of each were "the rent." usually "the rent." and i met these guys who called -- somebody called me and said, the coen brothers wrote this wonderful -- they wrote it for you. the coen. that's pretty impressive. i have to read this thing. well, i read it. it was funny. it turned out to be the cullen brothers. that's the way they're history c hysterical and great. it's a lot of fun. >> in the pilot, you seemed to push the envelope a little bit. >> that's just the pilot. we go only up from there. >> really? >> yeah. the objective is to wind up the show at midnight, with disney. and i love your purple dress. >> thank you. i want to show everybody. here's a snippet of "back in the game." take a look. >> when you shot the pitch, you fire it as hard as you can. and hit that first kid square in the face. you'll scare the crop out of owl of them. >> let's not hit anybody in the face. go have fun, bud. go. >> don't do that. >> why not? remember when you hit that kid in the side of the head. and i had to put one of those giant helmets on her to get her balance back? >> your character is so obnoxious. >> the goal was, you have to allow me to be the most horrifying person on television. >> that has to be fun to play. >> i'm a horrifying person. >> to be able to stretch in a way. i understand that you actually have real-life experience coaching. you took off time to coach your son? >> my son, scott, yeah. i did that for six years. i was riding too high. i thought i would take care of that. and i quit for six years. and i took care of it. nobody knew who i was. but it was great. it was a great experience. and there's been so much about -- it's still a show about family dysfunction. you know? and my daughter moved away from me because -- i raised her as a boy. >> yeah. >> to the point where i called her junior. i mean, she has a line today -- >> can i show you something really quick because we're running out of time. you have to see this. we think of you as an actor. a lot of people may not realize, you're an amazing song and dance man. we found this clip. barbra streisand and you. check this out, really quick. ♪ >> we love it. do you love it? >> yeah. i got offered 23 musicals after that. i didn't have to kill anybody. >> life is good for james caan. everybody, check him out. "back in the game," starring the one and only james caan, tonight at 8:30 eastern on abc. thank you so much for being with us. what a pleasure. >> thanks. coming up, a one-on-one with elton john. stay with us. ♪ alton john, going so strong. so many megahits. and a remarkable 31 albums. the latest is called "the diving board." his first solo outing in seven years. his first since becoming a father. cameron mathison sat down to talk to elton all about it. >> reporter: tonight, elton john is back at school. ♪ shine the light ♪ >> reporter: at usc in los angeles, the audience journeys with him through four decades of music and his biggest hits. ♪ >> reporter: it's the debut of his new album, "the diving board," his first studio recording in seven years. ♪ >> it's been met with a great reception, which is thrilling for me. >> reporter: the record is a return to the very type of music that brought him fame. he wrote and recorded 12 of the album's songs in 3 days. i'm going to make sure i get it right. in three days, you recorded 12 songs? >> and wrote them. maybe i felt so relaxed in the studio this time. maybe self-consciously, it has something to do with the fact that i have two children -- i had one when i started. and when i finished, i had two. >> reporter: fatherhood has changed elton. promoting his new record, he can't help telling stories about his two boys. >> i'm probably the happiest guy in the world. they brought more joy to me in the small amount of time i've had them, than anything in my life, apart from my partner. >> reporter: i watched as the 66-year-old rehearsed for the usc performance. for 90 minutes, nurturing the young musicians with his smile and his genius. ♪ he was back home again at the piano. >> he put on a great show. 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or 17 years ago and kim john il and how would that ever survive his regime had died as a womanizer, the largest film collector in the world, drove in a with street lights on mercedes, go on and on and on unless you talk to his professor which he always wanted me to do to understand his son who said he was brilliant, real intellectual. but is there any difference except in the age? and a lot of people believe that that issue was age. but any changes, any differences other than age that say he can't make it? >> i think that darfurian 2011 is very different from north korea in 1994. i think that it is more penetrated to the outside world. i think the institutions compared to 1994 and i think monday is the route to success, not theology and so those are factors i think like this is devotee of the transition and the strategy for sustainability different for kim jong un compared to kim john il. >> i would agree with that. i think that in addition i would say one of the other differences is kim john il have a lot more time to prepare. the death was sudden of course but he had already been put in a position he was expected to succeed over a decade before july of 1994. that certainly is not the case for kim jong un, and i think this point about the north korean society in 1994 is so different from what it is today. it is more penetrated as we discussed earlier. there's the market mentality that didn't exist before, the clear understanding that among the many in the north korean society that the social contract is a north korean social contrast but it's a social contract between the government and the society in many ways has failed. so i think it is a very different situation. >> i would only reiterate in terms of the preparedness. when you think back to 1994 and the immediate aftermath, people were saying can he survive? but yet he had been in the preparatory phase for 20 years but more importantly, he had been actually in control on a day-to-day basis. that's not the case here. and there's a significant difference between a 52-year-old who control back to his experiences and having witnessed the interplay of watching his father develop the country and control the levers of power in what is he going to turn back to the last basketball game that he watched? i'm not quite sure. so i do think that there is a significant difference and it is far more fraught with danger than it was. >> i sure we will be continuing to watch these with great interest as we move forward and please help me thank the panelists today. thank you very much. [applause] >> in all the conversations [inaudible conversations] former russian president vladimir putin will once again run for president in march of 2012. he served as president between 2003 to 2008 and is currently prime minister. the official results of the recent elections have given putin's united russia party in majority in parliament. protestors have accused the government of vote rigging. today the center for national interests posted this discussion about russian politics. it's an hour in and a half. >> we are going to get under way now. it's a great privilege to moderate this afternoon's session. i call dimitri now only about a week ago after of course observing the defense under way in the russian federation in moscow and other cities. what some have described as perhaps the beginning of the breakup of the ice that forms during a russian winter to discuss the political changes under way in russia, and i suggested that of course dimitri siloed join us to provide his views on not only what has happened, but what could occur in the future. surprisingly he sort of resisted me in wanting to talk about these issues buy very quickly was able to twist his arm and get him to agree to the meeting. i think dimitri now looking at the very good turnout we have today, the level of interest, a lot of familiar faces around the table, i think we have the opportunity to not only listen to the views but also engage in a good back-and-forth discussion among all the fuss. dimitri truly is the guy who needs no introduction to read just remind you he came to the united states from the soviet union in 1973, developed close relations with past and policy makers most notably with president nixon, became an obvious choice to lead the then nixon center and now the center for the national interest. he is one of those renaissance people who is able i think to combine both the topicality and falling daily events not only in russia but globally, but with a deep academic and theoretical perspective. we titled this session "the end of the putin era ?" and i think at this stage the question is. something is going on and we are not quite sure at this stage what it is. dimitri, i'm going to give you the floor so you can help us understand it. >> thank you very much. the was a generous introduction and in the spirit of the full disclosure, he did not twist my arm. he suggested doing it at our board of directors. [laughter] and since the ambassador is chairman of our program committee, when he makes a suggestion, i listened very carefully. but now, mr. ambassador, thank you for the opportunity. the end of the putin era with a question mark. well, i think that anyone who claims that the putin era is coming to an end needs to be fine what does it mean. both my senior editor of the nation interest can tell you about an article the recently of published about the end of the american era in the global politics, an article like this to walt, and what was good about this article is it frames the issue not in terms of black and white, not in terms of the united states starting with a superpower, losing the global influence, but with much greater nuance asking the question with the united states placed the same dominant role in the international affairs? were they able to play after the end of the cold war. so, using this article tells an example, i will say they cannot predict with certainty whether putin himself will depart from power any time soon. what they think we can predict with certainty that you will not be given to rule the waiver will in russia during the last 11 years. and that his ability to understand and talk since that would ultimately determine whether he is able to be elected and then tuesday as the russian president. it is quite clear that important things are happening in russia and that the potential loss for the meaningful reform and for the very dangerous destabilization. 5,000 people have demonstrated in moscow on december 10th. 50,000. doesn't sound as a huge number when you look at what happened for instance in egypt. when you look at some other demonstrations in europe, when you remember the anti-nuclear demonstrations and new york and the central park with almost a million people. so, it doesn't sound like a huge number. but in terms of previous motion practices, 50,000 people coming to the position meeting in moscow particularly the meeting which was not organized by any established parties, organized primarily through internet on very short notice this was quite dramatic, if there were thousands and thousands of other russians demonstrating all over the country smaller meetings in many of the cities but you can say was a considerable degree of certainty that this was the first time that russian middle class decided that they want to be taken seriously. we still lot no the people that can to this meeting, to what extent they will have specific political demands. what is very clear that they want to deliver at least one simple message colin quote enough is enough and we are not to tolerate this nonsense any longer. this was a very important and very powerful message. because only a couple of years ago when we were observing the russian public opinion, we could say with a considerable degree of certainty that the russian middle class was not necessarily the the the not want to become involved in politics. they believed in putin's good and bargain. namely as a people don't question how we run the government and we make sure that your life styles, you're living standards consistently improved and we will not interfere in your personal freedoms. you don't tell us of the government, what officials policies should be coming and we will not tell you where you should live, where you should travel, where you should work, or even what you should think. and if you want to criticize the government, please do it as long as you don't do it on city or national tv channels which were considered by the government to important chance. that grant bargaining was rejected on december 10th in moscow and in many other russian cities. why it happened i don't think we will ever know. like when we look at the revolution into nisha and other arab revolutions. you can see a relatively small the event that has triggered public condemnation. but clearly, the public for at least major parts of the public are already felt ready to engage in protests. 50,000 people again is not a huge number of people. but the revolutions have traditionally store to buy smaller middle class minorities, in particular in moscow. so for the government to ignore the people the government would do it only and these people as they would be ignored if an attempt would be made to ostracize them come to present them as foreign agents i think that would limit an increasingly angry, and they may become revolutionaries contrary to their own initial inclinations. we were talking for some time about the realities in russia. i was talking about that several months ago with the leader of the party, one party which is a kind of official opposition, loyal opposition, was allowed to take part in the last parliamentary elections that the same time they genuinely agree to the government. and he said to me at the time that in russia people existed in the two parallel realities. one was the reality of the universe, but people who watch tv who are influenced by what they think is an approach suggested by the government and that at that time is acceptable to the vast majority of the russian citizens. and then there was a growing internet space, people who were very cynical about the government, people who rely primarily on the internet use, people who were spending a growing amount of time on the internet, but has said out the time these people were not a weekend. for them the internet reality was not something that required any particular action that required them to do anything specific in their real life. what has happened on december december 10th the internet reality moved into the reality of russian political life. and i don't think that you can see any real turning back. what has provoked the people who want to demonstrate, i think it started probably she on september 24th when putin and medvedev have announced they would change jobs and that now putin again would run for presidency and medvedev would become the prime minister. most people assume by that time that putin probably would run for presidency and most people i saw were prepared to accept that. but the wage was done. just the kind of announcement of the party meeting without any preparation, without any discussion. it offended a lot of people, particularly educated people who felt that once again they were taken for granted. even people who were supportive of putin were upset with the way that it was done. entrée at that time the vice prime minister minister of finance came to washington take part in the imf meetings. he left moscow on the eve of that ruling united russia party meeting in the announcement about putin and medvedev switching jobs was made. putin consistently, including just three days ago, was describing putin as one of his closest political associates and indeed personal friends when he came to washington he set for the first time that medvedev would be the first minister putin had differences with medvedev and he made an announcement in washington which was rather provocative in the newsroom, saying that he would not serve in the russian government under medvedev for the acting minister of finance to make an announcement like that on foreign soil. i thought it was not something that is conventionally done. but if you do understand, it is also not conventionally done for the vice minister to counter it as a country and on tv that something like that is being arranged in his own government. you would understand his reaction. first, the vice premier mr. hu said publicly about this arrangement when he listened to it in a meeting of the united russia. i talked to the senior kremlin officials involved in organizing that a united russia meeting. they told me that yes the formed in advance like about 24 hours in advance because then they had to arrange the meeting they were in charge of everything. they had to be told. but otherwise, nobody really knew. the prime minister putin, still around russia as was a senior kgb officer as if it was the secret operation whereas the more you fear the more you can get into trouble. and where you don't really change permission with anyone and don't seek any admissible advice the prime minister putin was once asked about his advisers who has advised us to take the foreign policy issues? putin thought a little bit and said henry kissinger. now henry kissinger is the honorary chairman of the center and i have the greatest distinction in the things that putin is doing well listening to henry kissinger. but what was remarkable that he could not think about anyone in his own country, in his own government he would want to call an adviser because the emperor doesn't really have that pfizer's. the have assistance, they don't have advisers. and that created the situation. inside the russian elite, even inside the russian government. that announcement about putin and medvedev switching jobs was taken very poorly. one idea of apparently keeping medvedev as prime minister was that medvedev was considered more liberal and that he would bring with him his liberal constituencies to support the ruling party during the the duma elections the the opposite happened. because during that campaign exactly like putin, most of his constituencies felt betrayed. so bringing medvedev back as prime minister really did not served him well. i also think that there was considerable fraga during the by-elections. i actually do not believe that there was widespread as some critics have suggested. i think there was considerable consistency between the results of the public opinion polls, including public opinion polls conducted by independent organizations like the center and the way that the count was announced. but there were a couple of very laudable exceptions. and of the primary exception was moscow where clearly it was considerable disconnect between the way the votes were, quote home quote, counted. and there were independent polls. exit polls have suggested there was a considerable disconnect, and people in moscow, they knew how they voted, how their friends and neighbors had voted to read and when they looked into the figures, they clearly felt betrayed and post judgment not just about moscow but obviously about the way this election was conducted. so i think that has triggered the public in the nation particularly in moscow and where, where. the question is can the russian government still hold its ground and get putin retek elected as the president in march? in my view it is still doable. it is not assured that it is doable. but first it is doable but it is not assured. and the government would have to be very careful. not to provoke the people even more than they already have provoked. and also the question is at what cost would putin be reelected because if putin is really elected with the exception of widespread fraud, that of course can trigger the crisis of russia right away, and even if the government can handle this crisis, the question is what next. i talked to some very knowledgeable russians, very knowledgeable about russia and people who is supportive from the government and they believe that it's likely to be serious economic difficulties in russia next fall. and one reason for that is putin and medvedev have a very populist campaign and continue to run now a very populist campaign to elect putin as president. they are promising a great deal return to people everyone who depends upon the government budget and particularly the military and security services whose loyalty they want to count, and there's a great challenge for the government to be able to balance the budget and to maintain any kind of fiscal prudence. that is one reason the finance minister putin was so critical of what medvedev was doing as president and clearly now he talked about the disagreements with putin. so in this situation where the government is able to survive, but the major confrontations, the major government for what, then the question is what is going to be the serious economic difficulties next fall. and it will be not just on the internet generation, but motion cities who would feel squeezed and go to the streets. so this is the very challenging time for russia. so far i see the russian government response to us putin talking about all of these being a product of the foreign conspiracy. i think it would say to the people who tend needed to try to persuade, namely the middle class russian organizers, and i think the majority of the russians when the negotiations like that come from medvedev from russian tv, even if there is something to these allegations i don't think that they can literally. i think that it is a question of dignity and respect. i think a lot of russians want the government to recognize that if they are making clear that they are angry and they want change that for the government to say that all this is being directed by hillary clinton, this is not the right way to proceed if the government wants to maintain its support and to maintain its legitimacy inside russia itself. let me make a point about the position. the trouble with analyzing the russian situation is in many arab countries like to believe that the government is enacted and corrupt and like to assume the opposition are the nights on white horses. unfortunately that is not quite the case. putin was right in my view in his long interview on the russian channel. putin said a lot of things that the former prime minister being widely perceived as very, very corrupt about some russian opposition leaders coming back from the 90's and there is a real danger that what is being criticized of the putin government as a group that the group from the 21st century they may be replaced by the gangsters and the robber barons from the 1990's that would not be a good scenario. .. >> and ration general number one. i thought he was portrayed quite positively, and, of course, we all know that tv, when they pick elements of somebody's presentation, they know very well how to select what they want to select. i thought they were getting pretty favorable publicity, yet they did not get them. they got 3.3% of the vote. they double the vote. all together russian liberals got about 47 in the last elections, so what worries me is we may confuse like we already confused in egypt composition of protesters at the square with the country, and then we're surprised in egypt when the muslim brothers and people more congress servetive more than muslim brothers are doing very well. we would be quite surprised if there are genuinely free elections in russia, and we may see a lot of people who would be tough critics was rest and of particular of the united states. incidentally, all parties that have entered the government, they have denounced clinton for her criticism of the russian elections, and all of them have criticized russian non-profit groups, which received support from u.s. foundations and particularly from the u.s. government. let me talk about the state and u.s. interest. it does not look like a very important country in terms of nuclear weapons. we have recently together produced a report on u.s. policy where we made the point that russia is important for many reasons, but particularly because russia is the only country that can really destroy the united states. they have the capability. several people in this room at the meeting with putin in november at the so-called forum where putin took an issue with our report saying, well, russia russia -- we can do it even faster, but putin says there were also other reasons where russia can be important to the united states, and the things i made, the update of russian importance very seriously. let me mention, however, according to a recent forecast by goldman sachs, as we know, mistaken on a number of occasions also regarding their own profits -- [laughter] but, still, this forecast prepared by pretty knowledgeable serious people, and they believe by the year 2050, russia will be number six in terms of global gop product. number six. being ahead of most american, european allies, and perhaps even of japan. now, i would not take too literally, but i would simply say the russian economic potential is serious, real, and particularly if russia into deuces -- introduces major reforms. it could be a major player not only because of its nuclear potential. russia also is, of course, a member of the u.n. security counsel, and russia, of course, is a country which can quickly change the dynamics of politics if it chooses to align itself with china. russia and china for many years were competitors. they look at each other with considerable suspicion. they have different economic interests. there are initiations of economic issues that are very difficult indeed. having said that, if we manage to create major issues in the american relations with both china and russia, at least on the tactical level, at least in parallel, some kind of an alliance or at least an agreement between the two powers is quit possible, and then internation politics would not be quite the same. let me end on the very simple note. with the choice to make in the policy with russia, clinton was very critical of russian elections, and probably with some reason. at the same time, israeli foreign minister was in moscow meeting with prime minister putin, and in front of tv cameras, he said that he talked to israeli observers at russian elections, and they all told him there was no serious violations. i assure you his family who came from the soviet union and who is a very conservative is recall lee -- israeli leader that he is not naive about russia and about russian politics. actually, he had difficult relations with putin and others because israel had serious disagreements with russia and russia a serious supporter of syria, hamas, and he came to moscow to try to persuade russia and exchange seriously the russian positions on all issues of great importance to israel. he clearly made a proclamation they were negotiating with russia, and met us on great importance to israel that would be not the best time for him to criticize russian government and policies. during the last 20 years, we came to a very different conclusion. we came to a conclusion that after the end of the cold war, we can tell about everybody how they had come back through the affairs, and that we can do it without leverage of u.s. interest and u.s. ability to do things that are very important to us like russian support in iran, like our continuing supplies from russia to afghanistan. things that really affect american security and american lives. whether we should be able to have our cake and eat it too, it's difficult to make a prediction, but i do believe that there's instances when i made an interest in the american values in some conflict, and they also believe that doing what is in the u.s. national interest, that saves american lives and protects american security, that it also reflects american's values, and we should remember about that policy towards russia. thank you. >> thank you, dimitri. you have given us a lot to think about and i hope to talk about. i'll exercise the moderator's right to maybe ask you the first question or make the first comment, and i'll give fair warning to my good friend, general, i'll give the floor to you after i've asked my question and dimitri's answered so you have a little time to prepare, but dimitri, i found part of your presentation maybe a little bit -- you've given us a paradox, if you will. i mean, i think you quite correctly pointed out that if you survey the whole political scene in russia, you don't find united russia on the one hand and a group of western liberalizers on the other. i think the second largest political party are the communists. you got the nationalists. you've got a gaggle of other extremist parties, and as you pointed out, you have the would-be liberals scoring only at most 3% or 4%. at the same time, however, as i watch those protests on the news, i saw what you, again, correctly pointed out were what we used to call in the 1980s, mainly yuppies. young urban professionals who clearly if they didn't get the straight news from television, they were in touch on the internet. they probably all followed this iconic figure, the famous blogger. there does seem to be at least amongst the protesters a group of people who i would classify as modernizers. wouldn't necessarily call them liberals, but clearly people who are not extremists, are not ultranationalists necessarily, and didn't strike me as communists either. in your view, what's your -- am i wrong about this discrepancy? i did get this sense just as you saw in at least in the early demonstrations in the arab spring, that you did have people who wanted more openness, more transparency at least, and wanted a government that they could influence. >> i think there is a paradox in the extension between two of our objectives with russia. on one level, of course, we look at the yuppies as you called them, interested in modernization, against the corruption in russia, and it's difficult for us not to identify with them, particularly noisy, the people whom we mostly see on our own tv and rad about them in new york -- tv and read about them in new york and "time" magazine. we have seen this, obviously, in egypt several months ago, and to support these people to support reform is the very nature of americans, but then you also want to support something else called free election, and then you discover in egypt, and then we may discover in russia that there's a certain disconnect between the young urbans who are so visible and who sound like us and many of them speak good english, and some of them, some of the best spokesmen spent time in the united states being affiliated with the best american universities, but then we discover once you allow free elections, other groups, other social brothers, they come to the top, and what they want to do, you may find very problematic. in the case of egypt, of course, one of the challenges is what the islamic majority in the government, and expected to keep it, and what would they do in the case of israel? i would want to know a nation of the russian parliament, how would impact their policy with the views of the united states? you mentioned alex, and he was almost called a hero, a former member, one of the leaders. he was asked to leave because he was becoming a nationalist, and only recently, he took part in the event which was including russia ut tray nationalist, and -- ultranationalists, and he himself was talking russia for people who are ethnic russians, and he was talking fast about stopping to subsidize caucuses where they already have strong separatist movements that could lead to destabilization, but he was also talking about russians, not ethnic, those in moscow, and if you hear these policies coming from the new russian political majority, we may discover this is not the outcome we'd be fully comfortable with. >> you're suggesting perhaps the real political choice at this stage of russian political development is between putin and the ultranationalists? >> i am suggests that we cannot be sure. we can want be sure in the case -- we cannot be sure in the case of egypt. what i'm also suggesting is there is an unfolding drama, a variety of outcomes that are possible. i am also suggesting that the government still have some cards to play, but i do not see evidence so far that they can play their cards well. let me mention to you a conversation, a very revealing conversation, that i had last february in moscow. the center for the nation of interest had a joint event with another group in moscow led by a tv commentator who was just elected as new chairman of the russian committee of international relations, and that was just the beginning of the arab spring, and that conversed people in the room, and everybody said, no, it's not going to happen. maybe two or three years from now, but then i said, okay, but let's assume you're wrong. let's assume that there would be a major demonstrations in russia, in moscow, in the next several months during the elections. can the russian government rely on the security services? every person in the room said no. they were more specific saying it would be -- the russian government could use a so-called security division, and they probably -- and day after day with growing number of casualties. there was a sense of their own that at the minimum the governments could not be sentenced, that the military and security services were the soldiers happened to be just regular recruits which represent the russian society, that the russian government can count on them. you ask me, well, of course, you can just do one conversation over dinner in a moscow restaurant and why it is so important. it is important because participants that were included two former prime ministers, one of whom used to be the director of the federal security service and another of the intelligence service, former chief of the general staff who is now adviser, and several duma leaders and pollsters who were progovernment and independent, and not a single person in the room had any confidence in the security services able to handle violence on any basis. for me, it suggested that it would be a totally impossible situation. >> general? >> thank you, dimitri, that was a fascinating analysis. just a couple of points. first you harken to egypt in many different times at the heart of both of them, and first, the ease of with which demonstrations can be organized now. you said there's no party behind it. you don't have to have a party. just push a button and say turn out on the square tomorrow morning, and it goes out to a million people. that's the first thing. the second thing is as we're seeing in egypt and other places, we take opposition and demonstrations as cry for democracy. it seems much to me much more basic than that -- for dignity, and what happened with the switch from -- between putin was on the front to dignity. unacceptable. one of the things i want to ask you, do you think the primary motivation was what happened in september that opened the switch back again or elections which were considered to be corrupt because it makes a difference which way you go. the last point, you ignored the last six years when putin was still obviously running the shaw, but there was a different veneer over it, and what i'm wondering is how much of that veneer was really influence, and how much of it was putin, and has putin learned that you get more flies with honey than with vinegar or whatever the saying is? has that last year's mary gone, or if putin succeeds now, will we, in fact, have -- he's not a dummy. he learns something from the styles and how they've dement with -- dealt with the would that might promise a different generation. >> first talk about putin. i think that putin on many levels is one of the most intelligent world leaders today. i have met some, and they seem that putin is one of the most impressive in terms of his overall intellect, in terms of his overall knowledge of history, in terms of his being able to think strategically. my feeling is that while he's clearly not communist anymore, and i do not believe he is any serious -- the russian empire, i think there is a lot of security agents, and by security agent i mean a person who sees the trust in others as a weakness, a person who thinks if you share information, it is likely to be used against you. a person who came from the military background and who thinks your sub -- subordinates should obey you and do what they are asked of and when you are running it, it's the exact opposite to what putin expected from his own security counsel, and they talked to two separatists of his security government, and it was very clear that any kind of free fall when agency hits, when top experts would be able to express any opinions, that's not -- that's not what putin never expected. yesterday, mr. putin talkedded about -- tucked -- talked about the national energy, and it was discovered that about 50% of officials, executives, in russian government control energy countries are simultaneously engaged in business of their own, businesses which obviously are connected. >> you say he just discovered that? [laughter] >> it sounded like he was just discovering it, and that my impression is that remarkably there is a lot of things in russia which this well educated men does not know or quite understand about the country. he, in this sense, looked much more modern, a much more appealing to the urbanite yuppy generation, and putin to be loyal after the announcement on september 24th, i think it eliminated credibility. with this generation and the existence stopped being terribly useful to putin. >> no, i didn't mean that he had been useful, but putin is smart. he deeply resented the united states in the way we treated russia at the end of the cold war. got much further with the resentencing by having a different approach. now, if putin is so intelligent, and i agree with you that he is, all he has to do is change his visceral attitude. it's nonat intellectual -- it's not an intellectual woe. >> well, if he's capable of that, he has not demonstrated it yet. >> okay. [laughter] >> and i can only tell you two things. he's long tv performance, and i was on the russian channel, and i thought in many respects it was a masterful performance. he clearly was on top of his facts. he clearly could be very spontaneous. it was a little bit orchestrated, but, well, it is russia, but when i was thinking about putin's effectiveness not vis-a-vis his tradition, but with this new yuppy generation, i thought he was outright counterproductive. he said he looked at the people demonstrating, and he said wide grievance and said it looked like they were wearing some kind of condoms. to many, this was offensive. thisgoing to the demonstrations was a big deal to them, the first time they were saying they were citizens. today, another scandal, a political opposition leader, former vice prime minister, who i consider one of the more dispickble people in russia, one of the favorite engaged in this illicit privatizations, and now he's a champion of democracy, but he's one of the people who is appealing to the yuppy generation. i understand that putin despises him because he accuses putin of being a thief, and that's his principle campaign slogan, and it's difficult for putin not to take it a little personal. having said that, they just released on their government related website, audio tapes of the private phone conversations when he is using a lot of wild language and where he's criticizing against putting down 5 lot of his colleagues in the position of the movement. now, clearly, they idea was that the dissertation would be destroyed, but the yuppies organized and feel this is another offense to them. they feel they are taken as idiots. if they want to run a government campaign like that, they will further anger a lot and a lot of people. it's in the all over yet for putin to demonstrate his potential to become different, but the clock is ticking. >> okay. i'm going to open this up, please, because we have the friends from c-span here. please identify yourself. arnold? >> arnold -- carnegie. dimitri, you posed the issue for the united states in what is by now the very familiar and traditional way. it really is -- should we support a stability, which is fairly predictable, not entirely satisfactory, and opposed to which there are possible alternatives that are better, and some that are worst. the ones you spent most of your time with are the ones that are worst. we've been there and done that before and not to make a premature choice like before, as analytical as we can be to see which way the movement is going internally depending partly on how putin and his government are responding to the challenge and how the challenges are organizing themselves and preparing and behaving. the second challenge is with the opposition, and that's equally difficult. the liberal opposition, which we are most interested in, has a very, very poor track record. it's very vulnerable, but it's also clear that the opposition that those people who are out in the square demonstrating and who have been active on the internet, they are not interested in the official opposition. the official opposition is no opposition at all. the parties who gain most in this election whether by hook or crook, are not parties in our judgment of american interests that would serve our interest if they gained in strength, and the problem internal as i see it are between those forces trying to advance the delegit maization of a system which in their view failed them and failed the country and opposite forces, in this case, headed by putin, himself, who are trying to reassert themselves. i think the response so far of the administration is useful. i think they were right to put the position out quickly and not follow the advice of some, a few, not including incidentally the candidates, which was interesting, to have the president immediately come out with a strong position on the elections themselves, so my reply to you is not so fast. i'm not so persuaded yet that any defeat of putin will lead to a political change in russia that will necessarily be to our disadvantage and i see extraordinary benefits both for russia and for mankind indeed, if, in fact, contrary to past performance, the opposition now with a new input of vitality, energy, and a different population could succeed in putting together something that the country can get behind. i think putin's initial response to it in the interviews was very bad. i don't think he advanced his cause one ioata, but he has shown they are capable of organizing a successful movement. >> well, the first thing is what they should stop doing, and that's what was mentioned. the dignity of those who disagree with the russian government and accept what they should know themselves. the reasons for opposition is heated and real. if putin made talk about corruption all the time and power in russia and interest and dignities of the people. actually, ignoring dig dignity and interests of foreign up vesters as well leading to the outflow of capability from russia. i think what you need to see is for mr. putin to start talking in a way that would indicate to more moderate among the protesters that putin is getting their message and as suggested that we may see a new reincarnation of putin. we have seen the reincarnation of nixon and many other american political leaders. we do know it's possible, not always successful, but possible, but at first a leading question needs to make a conscious decision that something has changed in the country and changed in some ways. without that, i don't think putin will be able to be successful. the second thing more specifically, i think they have to accept that putin cannot win as they made clear they wanted it. according to every opinion poll i have seen, and let me emphasize, massive fraud, a little bit of hankie panky here and there, but the kind of massive fraud that makes elections illegitimate in the minds of millions and millions of russians. putin would have to accept that you should be prepared to go to a second round of elections, and the fear, of course, is the second round of elections all opposition can unit against putin even to support somebody like the communist leader just to get rid of putin, and they do understand that putin would have to accept an element of vulnerability and an element of unpredictability. some absolutely face, and if i was in his shoe, i would create some predictability too because if you listen to them, they are not running against putin's political problem or the way putin runs the country. they are saying that he's a thief, a crook. they do not just want to change the government, they want to put putin and company in jail and have an arab style revolution, and if you can imagine ones in moscow that happened to gadhafi, they take it permly, and putin has to -- personally, but putin has to accept that is the way it is today. that's an element of uncertainty that they have to accept. i am conveyanced that if -- convinced that if putin plays his cards right, he still can win in the second round. i don't know whether i would say it's a month from now, but today i believe he can win the second round. he remains, by far, the most popular politician in the country, and not just talking about government position polls, but i'm talking about opposition polls, the polls which feel that they are totally independent. you also have the 77% of the russian tv audience watch putin for four and a half hours, and that is not information from the tv channel. that is information, again, from the independent polls. he clearly remains a charisma and the kind of legitimacy that makes him a strong candidate, but hi would have to accept an element of uncertainty. he has to stop demonizing his opponents, particularly talking not about leaders, but just people who go to demonstrate against him, and he would have to start talking seriously about what he's going to do for the country. again, they are constantly watching you, and putin offered a lot of announcements how he is going to raise this group, that group, retired people, military security. well, russian budget has its limits, and theyty it's important for -- they think it's important for putin to go to the polls, presenting his problem and saying what is it that he intends to do, and that would require a problem, prepared by him for a group of people, and i don't see something like that happening so far, and the clock is ticking, but there's a lot here for him. >> madam ambassador. > thank you, embassy of bulgaria. thank you. as always, one of the most interesting and challenges and debating places in this town. i was going to ask you about further sort of reflection on your description of a relative support of russia and i think you gave that much of an answer explaning it can go further than what it is today. i think that we have those discussions on two plains. one is the domestic scene in the aftermath of the election and the behavior of the opposition group, and also, of course, geopolitics, and what are the implications? are they expected the aftermath of this election? i would really appreciate a common view of how would you describe what can be a rational argument in favor of more engagement with the west, whatever it may mean, and the united states of america, and a gut feeling, which i think is slightly different, that feeling that has been there for generations on end, i think, correct me if i'm wrong, but ever since the times have been great, kind of a defensive attitude versus the west, and in modern times, this is the united states of america in the first place. how would -- how would you compare the policy of apiecement of -- appeasement of european countries, this is russia, and the current administration? would there be likely hoods and which one of these would be a better attitude than the other? and the other one, how would you describe what is a patriotic platform, a patriotic platform and depends how you term in in russia and coming down to not just the russians, more internal argument, and vis-a-vis the ut tray world and the -- ultra world and the political platform. >> let me start with the first platform first because it's a very important one. i do know people who are demonstrating at -- they think, and since i spoke on the phone, i would not want in order to describe with any certainty their convictions at this point with two impulses. one impulse is enough is enough, and these people are denying our rights for too long, and now we want to be taken seriously, and because they do not have a wealth on a political platform, there's a flexibility in terms of their demands, but what they want from government is not another monologue, but a genuine dialogue. at the same time, these people really support him and his nation and the strategy. some of the people actually salespeople english -- speak engling, unlike me, without an accent. some went to the universities, and very successful in their professions. there are two conflicting emotions. they are very angry with the government, and yet they want to be able to make their own choices. actually -- >> this is a government which goes along the same lines -- i'm sorry, that's a question, not a comment. >> they do not want to be told from anyone from the outside, do not want their own government to say they are acting on anybody's orders, but they also do not want anybody from outside the country to become too involved in the internal affairs, and i think that we have to try to develop policy which would not look and would not be an appeasement policy, but which would allow us to have real dialogue with the people, something that we talked about, and i would think about three specific things. we can, in my view, foot seriously to consider, and first, i think with the joinings of the wtr, we have to get rid of the jackson amendment because if we keep it on the books, it would really discriminate against u.s. business and against u.s. investors in russia. however, in the current environment in my view to get rid of the jackson amendment without replacing it with some other legislation which would establish the link between the u.s. policy and domestic practices, i think it would be sending a wrong signal, and actually that would be creating an impression in russia that we do not care about russian depression. accordingly, i think that we sthowld proceed with -- should proceed with the so-called bill which is namedded off russian lawyer who died in the russian jail. that's a long story, but i would say that we, in my view, should have a carefully subtle piece of legislation which would give that administration appropriate apparel and the appropriate procedures which would make sure it is sufficiently focused with sufficient safeguards and very important with the president obviously being able to make an appropriate nation of security exemption where necessary, but they do think that some version of these are important. the second thing that i would do is, well, i don't any that we need to attack the russian election and the russian duma, but if i was a member of congress, i would think seriously about engaging in exchanges with the russian duma. it is our prerogative to what extent we want to have dialogue with these people, and last, but not least, the board of directors where they instructed me to proceed with many event will also discuss our sense of the national interest in taking foreign money, and they both have decided that we will not, and we did not in the past take any foreign government money or foreign money connected. i think it's important for groups like ours, and ours is american foreign policy and non-profit organizations to become quite careful about taking money from groups connected to the russian government, in which engage in the russian propaganda campaign. we some time ago, the center for the national interest where they were taking russian money. we never did. the "washington post" proceeded with the whole section once a week, a whole section, which is propaganda advertisement produced by the russian government, so i want to suggest, you know, a certain degree of consistency and the higher level of integrity in how we deal with those in russia who we all felt abuse corruption. let's look at the mirror. let's be prepared to put our money where our mouth is. >> barbara slavin. >> thank you. i'm curious about the latest addition to the russian campaign, the owner of the normings mets. -- new jersey mets. does he have a shot? did putin have plastic surgery, and do you know if that is, indeed, the case? >> i looked at mr. putin during the last performance on the channel, and he looked a little different. i am not an expert on plastic surgery, and i cannot give you an informed answer, and i have to say if i was putin, i would have a lot of sleepless nights, and also can change their appearance somewhat and we really have no idea. a very successful businessman, he made the bulk of his fortune in the 1990s when his partner for $5 million to the kennedy center where his partner went into the government, became first vice prime minister and was very active in privatizing russia government profit groups. that was the origin of the enormous wealth. over time as, you know, some russian businessmen proved to be unable to grow from their previous roots, and some proved they are capable of more. i've seen him and demonstrated he's a successful business leader, and he's established himself as a formidable presence in the russian politics. so far, he had an uneasy relationship with the russian government, but was considered basically and he would be interesting to run against putin. the chances that he would be elected are zero because the russians are in the populist mood. they don't like ologarks who made their fortune in the 90s and are in the united states. they know of the scandal that he was arrested in france for allegedly importing a bunch of girls, and he was found innocent because they were not professional prostitutes, and they just came to entertain him and his friends., but how to put this delicately, this is not a lifestyle most russians can identify with. >> they might approve of it. [laughter] >> they may dream about. >> okay. [laughter] >> there is suspicion that the purpose of this scandal is still a kind of appeal to some liberal yuppy vote without being a credible threat. that, in my view while these things happen in politics, but putin relies on things like that, and then i think he is going to be brutally disillusioned. >> back there. >> wayne, the foreign policy counsel, and by the way, we take no foreign money either. there was a good deal of expectation earlier this year i believe that putin would delay announcing their presidential reelection scheme until after the parliamentary elections. by doing it in reverse order, they have provoked precisely the kinds of problems that we have seen. why do you think that they chose to exercise this slap in the face of announcing their scheme so close before an election where people could, to some extent, actually register their disapproval? >> well, you're asking a very good question, and i have two short answers. first, clearly, they were becoming about the declining falling numbers, and united russia would go down in the elections as it actually did, and it allows justification of putin as leader of united russia to announce his return to the presidency, but the second thing is that i think they clearly miscalculated and to the best of my knowledge, there was never any serious discussion inside the russian government or if putin had any kind of kitchen cabinet which he apparently doesn't. any discussion of what they were doing of likely consequences. as such decisions, it apparently was mr. putin who made his own calculations, a kind of led with a delicately to a conclusion that he's not going for the presidency, and apparently to putin and the way he'll stay as prime minister, and the putin accepted this in the name of harmony, and that was clearly a very serious miscalculation, and that is a reflection on putin's decision making style. >> margaret? >> short question. following up on what cliff asked, do you expect to see the putin government try to stage manage who gets to run in the march 4th election in a way that either produces a choice that would be unacceptable to a majority of russians or one that would at least not be? i mean, to what degree will they manipulate it and what direction? >> first of all, they will stage manage it, and there's no question about it, and for no other reason in order for an individual candidate, independent candidate for presidency to be registered, they have to get 2 million signatures and by what -- by january 20th? something like that, but, look, there is no way anyone can collect in russia, a country that is oppressive of others, 2 million signatures of which can be easily verified unless the government allows you to do it, and then if the government is fairly broad minded in verifying these figures. sorry, verifying the signatures, so the decisions would be made by the government, but the situation is the house of government is going to handle it. they may decide to be very strict and prohibitive and allow only those parties that already in the parliament and most of them have strong government connections to allow only this practice to present their candidates, or they may agree to let everybody, who he's not a hero of the radicals, and he's a little too old-fashioned for the mid generation, but he's noncorrupt and general liberal and quite thoughtful. you know, he may become a serious challenger. now, i'm sure there will be people in the government who would say we should not allow him because god forbid he gets more votes and he would go into the second round with putin, and then who knows what is going to happen. if the government would listen to this voices, i think that there would be a widespread public indignation, real outramming, and those may break lose. if they allow this i would not say that anybody would accept these elections as perfect, but at least there would be a tiny more amount of legit legitimacy. >> okay, we're really running out of time here. i think there's three journalists in a row here. i'll let them all ask the question, and then dimitri, you can answer as you see fit, but i'll begin with you. >> channel 1 russia. my question is you already mentioned the economical factor, and the possibility of arab spring scenario for russia. what we've seen in those countries, even in the regions doing economically pretty well, the arab spring didn't happen. it happened in countries where there's economic poor. in russia, in european, how's the significant economic factor, and for the more -- the price of oil, what kind ever influence will it have on the stability of the future of the country in order for the government to do business as usual? thank you. >> barry? >> going back a little bit, what would the consequences be if russia went through with the anti-missile deal with iran? >> you mean to sell the iranians -- >> dimitri spoke about the relationship, the united states and russia, but what does it do to the world situation -- >> if the russians sold their air defense missiles to iran? >> right. >> okay. i just wanted to clarify. >> i'm curious if the last elections 234 -- in russia would impact the elections in the united states? could it be a big deal with the primaries and could be a top foreign policy issue for republicans to take on, and obama who declared -- [inaudible] >> let me start with white's question. in terms of these missiles, some in russia talking about supplying a more modern system of 400,000, and in terms of this system being deliver the to the iranians, and, of course, israel will have something to say about that. the israelis may have thought at first that it may become more difficult for them as the government to constrain israel. i will simply say that that action would clearly indicate that iran got a powerful protecter. it may trigger a crisis, and it also would raise questions about what is going to happen on the aftermath of the crisis because it's one thing to attack iran and to try to destroy their nuclear missile problem which is not going to be easy, but let's say from now on they are not alone, and they can count on an active russian assistance in rebuilding whatever was destroyed. i think that it would change the security situation in the middle east profoundly and in a very dangerous direction. in terms of the impact of russian arab spring and the economic factors. well, it's quite clear that while you cannot establish percentages, one reason that the russians sound happy in addition to their dignity are the pocketbooks because it's of the world economic crisis and russian mismanagement, corruption, and excessive reliance on others, and as a result of that, leaving standards in -- living standards in russia stopped improving, and i have to say in some areas and for some categories even began to go down, so that creates an explosive potential. it is unlikely to contribute dray maltically -- dramatically what's going to happen between now and presidential elections, but if you talk about what may happen next fall, that is what russian economists were warning me about. that if we look at the outlook, what to consider in addition to presidential elections in march, you have to look at possible economic problems in russia in the fall and how a weakened russian government would be able to handle them. finally, i think that you asked a very good question, and actually a lot of people in russia do not quite, in my view, understand the dynamics in washington. we, from the time of the soviet union, i made a policy, and it was often oversold and over bought, and the same happened to the reset policy which obama administration in my view allowed to look as more involved and more lasting than it really was, and the more president obama talked about the policy as his success, the more he seemed to count on the president as his strategic partner. the more he talked about his face in russian liberal reform, and the more i think he was encouraging republicans to say wait a minute, what is going on in that country? i do think that there is a crisis in russia. it would become a foreign policy challenge for the obama administration, and inevitable topic of presidential debatings. >> thank you. >> i'm sorry. i have not been able to call on everybody, but i'm sure you will all agree with me this has been a great discussion, and we have not got all questions answered, but i think dimitri helped us think about how to answer those questions, what the context should be, and what the crucial issues are going forward, so join me in thanking dimitri. [applause] .. with cnn host and former news of the world editor piers morgan testified today before british committee investigating phone hacking and the culture of the british press. the former editor said he had no reason to believe there was phone hacking at the tabloid paper while he was in charge. piers morgan as one of many witnesses called to testify to the love the senate inquiry. this is an hour and 40 minutes. >> first of all take the oath, please. >> i swear the evidence will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. >> can mr. morgan see us? can use es? >> i can see mr. j but not you. >> that's all right. fine. >> if you need to, you will. [laughter] you're full name and please, mr. morgan. >> piers morgan. >> thank you. you've provided to witness statements. the first is 15 pages signed another segment of truth. is that your first witness statement, mr. morgan? >> yes. >> the second one is nine pages dated the 21st of november again with a statement of truth. do you stand by that statement mr. morgan? >> yes. >> now, if i can cover your professional background, your editor of the noon news of the world, is that right, between january, 1994 and august, 1995; is that correct? >> yes. estimate your the youngest set her ever at the age of 28; is that correct? >> i believe so, yes. >> and that news has not yet been surpassed? you then move to the daily mirror did in september, 1995 and the 14th of may, 2004; is that correct? >> yes. >> and you are now fighting to an employee of cnn and you do a daily show piers morgan tonight which is very big in the usis understand. >> yes it is. >> me ask you to general questions. we know from your first statement that you are, as you described, that a facto editor of passan showbiz column which is i think still called bizarre under calvin mackenzie. we've noted it's not uncommon for the editors of leading tabloids to come to the show biz columns of the tabloid newspapers. why do you think that is so? >> a column white the bizarre came to be working template if you like. that's why so many became editors. >> it is often indexed the occupation in celebrity and the news value is have very much focused on that sort of matter. >> i think it's very patronizing when people say that because i think in the end the have to compromise that and do news and show biz stuff and the art of being a good tabloid journalist is to do both. i always felt if you look at some of the people who came from the bizarre who went on to edit the new york daily news, these are proper news journalists. i'm not sure they can follow because you do recall on in your early years about the celebrities it is unfit to cover news i think it is rather pompous. >> can i ask the second question that the turnover between the tabloids and ask you about the experience in many of 2004 a very rapid turnover for the tabloid newspapers are not? >> between the newspapers they may not want to admit this but quite a few people have gone through the ranks have originated from the tabloids. >> thank you. i would ask you now another general question about the to volumes of your diary. the first is called the insider. the second, don't you know who i am. the general question is how reliable are these historical documents? well, that is a moot point. they are my records of ten years of editing newspapers, which were compiled not as a contemporaneous diary but say in the introduction from the collection of notes, memos, e-mails, stuff like that and stuff like this on a weekly basis and i've constructed the four men as best my memory served it but it is in the record of 100% historical import i would say no. estimate is it your best recollection? >> yes. >> in your first statement please if i can take you to 16, which is page 24194 in answer to a general question you say ethical determinations are central for the will to an editor to the major national newspapers and to a professional journalism. during my time is editor of the news of the world and the daily mirror ethical considerations are interwoven into my work and were imprisoned in aspect of the daily professional life. so that is and was your quota, have i got the right? >> yes. >> than a 17th of the code of practice use the l.a.p.d. to say is displayed prominently throughout and informed every editorial decision made during my tenure as editor of news of the world and the daily mirror and then i paraphrase in the context of balancing privacy of individuals against the public interest. and is that right? >> yes. >> and eight your recollection is in compliance with the practice was the requirement of the contracts with employment of journalists working with the daily news released around 2000. you don't think, and again i paraphrase, it was the expressed requirement of the employment as editor but then you say in the second statement it was so obvious it went without saying you comply with the practice, is that correct? >> yes. >> paragraph 25 of the statement you deal with libel and you make it clear in your view that the libel law we in the united kingdom has enormously onerous requirements is that so? >> that was my belief when i was editing newspaper. i have written this nearly eight years after left it is a newspapers said it relates to my time as editor. >> paragraph you give examples of how the ethical consideration informed decision making and in paragraph 29 you were providing the copy of the budget in 1996 and the upshot it was and para a phrase you didn't think it was to publish so instead you had to get back. have i summarized what happened? >> yes. taking the view that the budget were before it was publicly announced is that you're thinking? >> we have the management which is very unusual but because of the indication of the allin king of the budget we felt this was correct and there were a number of considerations one of which we were not able because the ticking clock element of the story to completely verify its veracity so we were not sure that we were dealing with 100% accurate documents. second, we felt the material contained could potentially cause market chaos and was that irresponsible thing for a newspaper to be giving, did we need to do that? it's not a big enough story to actually just have the budget and create the big sites that went back through that. looking for there were a number of things we could have done to the story. i am satisfied that we took the responsible course of action, although i would note within the space of the 24 hours i was captain skidded by the government overnight the priest me for what i had done and then by the next day they had come around to thinking this was a terrible allegations of my journalistic duties. so clearly there were different views about what i have done to a 64. in paragraph 31, do you have any more detail in your first diary you deal with the story in december 1997 involving the 17-year-olds secretary being involved in you explain how that was confirmed but then on and decided in the circumstances that rose to publish the story but without identifying the concern is that correct? >> yes. >> thank you. 33v nado b campbell story, that of course is the story which ended up in the house of lords a couple of years later i think. is the right? they were divided as we all know. >> yes. >> paragraph 34 of your statement dealing with the complaints and the wide proceeding treatment the complete was upheld by the dcc and then mr rupert murdoch gave a public statement which you set out in 34 where he said it is clear the young man, that's you, went over and had no hesitation to make the public demonstration. now i've reminded mr. morgan forcefully this is the responsibility to which she is an editor subscribes to in the employment. the company will not tolerate the company's best practices of the popular journalism. i'm going to return to that in a moment. they ask you a little bit in this first witness statement to deal with the issue of the investigators would now be 50 on page 24202 you have no recollection of any personal involvement in the use of the private investigators during your time in the news of the world but we were looking at the period that i think was less than two years. so paragraph 51 from time to time they would engage in a private investigative journalism during my time as editor the professionals were useful tools in securing the water it in evidence for or fact checking the articles and stories the journalists had uncovered about which they received. do you know what sort of evidence private investigators would seek out for the newspaper mr. morgan? >> i don't because i've never been directly involved. this was dealt with through the news desk so in editor in that position i think probably like most editors you wouldn't get directly involved. that was enshrined in the contract of employment so i never had any concerns that they were breaking a law using the private investigators. >> i will come back to that issue if i may. the question please of the unethical news gathering. presumably you have heard of the term ecology. is that correct? >> i have become acquainted 28. speck on how many occasions did you take advantage of the services? >> i was trying to remember. i know that i to tell that least one in my book in relation to the story about elton john. i cannot honestly say how many times but certainly we deploy him or the services several times. >> in the first book 1998, the 13th of january the gentry said a is there any way you got the same peter bac edition? >> yeah. i have the hardback. >> it is 185. you tell us it is a very strange guy who told me a few stories in the past and ran this morning with an extraordinary offer. i've got all of the bank statements he squealed in a high-pitched voice. he would have gotten them. his nickname is benge and he goes around making rubbish in celebrities' houses and lay the papers by the stock despite the serious unethical way that he acquires it, and then i paraphrase he turned out the documents including the bank statements. did you have any problems with that, mr. morgan? >> it clearly is a strange thing to be doing. he used to live in the house that have hundreds if not thousands of. it's a very unusual way to lead your life. did i think that he was a legal? no. dividing that he was on the cusp of being unethical? yes. but it is interesting to me to see the testimony in the chief investigations editor of the guardian who decided to make somebody else pay for this information who brings up the beatles and self which is something the guardian is very good at and since they've appointed themselves as the sufficient i would like to examine that practice because in a way it isn't disseminated. they take the discord of remains from the tabloids, fill their papers with them but don't have to pay anything. the daily mirror would have been a lot more profitable. >> we are not asking questions in this moment we are asking questions of you. you're what makes it clear that you use this exact language despite the unethical way that he acquired it not just on the cusp of this unethical behavior on the strong side of the line, would you agree? >> i don't know actually because if you discard it away you are discarding it so you'd have no more use for it and you just go off to rubbish where everyone knows you walk down and help themselves. >> i'm not sure they can but you can get some advice about that. >> you can't get their rubbish tips? >> you can mr. morgan. the property of the discarded rubbish probably belongs to the local authority see. are you seriously suggesting for the probe said who's thrown away rubbish in this case mr. alton john has in the expectation he might end up in the hands of a journalist? >> it wasn't him actually. it was his manager. >> his manager, pardon me. >> the same principle applies, doesn't it? >> i think it's thrown rubbish into the street i just throw it out there i wonder how unethical it is that's going to be in the newspaper. that's rubbish. >> okay speed the investigators have you heard of someone called steve whitmore? >> i have since this all blew up. i wasn't aware of him before. >> when were you first aware that 45 of the daily mirror's journalists were identified by the information commission positively to have been involved in the commission in his view of unlawful transactions? >> it was published in 2006? >> it was, yes. were you aware of it before then? >> i was working in america. i left the newspaper before, so that is when -- i think he will remember noting that when it was published in the paper and the time. >> the information commissioner identified 681 transactions is the term he used which he considered amounted to the breaches of data protection law and 45 known journalists in the daily mirror. are you saying that you were not aware of any of that happening at a time after you were editor? >> i'm not aware of any of the specifics but i'm also not aware that any journalists were arrested or charged or prosecuted or convicted of anything. so he may have a view about the nature of those investigations and they may have had a different view. >> what you did you have of the journalists were doing at the time regardless of the information commission might have had? >> the journalists were obliged under the contract of employment to work within the law and the only selection is if you were to employ a public interest affect. it's the only possible excuse he did have for going against the law. estimate the sort of information the journalists were seeking from mr. whitmore namely the numbers, vehicle registration marks and that sort of thing. were you aware of that? >> no. >> is it to be aware of what your journalists were doing at least in the general terms? >> i would say the average investor is probably aware of about 5% of what is journalists were up to in any given time. >> were you aware of the sort of money that was being spent even if one can find it to the 681 positively identified transactions according to the information commissioner as evidence the figure would be anything between 52,000 to 80,000 pounds or were you aware of that time? >> no. >> who would be responsible for authorizing that level of expenditure? would it be the managing editor clacks >> i think so. i think it is for the managing editor's office and probably desk editors themselves. it would all be done at that level. it doesn't come across my desk as far as i had any recollection so that's why i haven't in the memory of the specifics of it. but i do want to reiterate here that none of this has ever been proven. these are just things where people say we believe this. whether the and enter into a debate is had. >> okay. >> we may come back to this the the issue of the phone hacking which i am obliged to ask you about, page 289 of your boss and which is >> was there with me one minute while i find it. the entry for the 26th of january some have suggested today that people might be listening to my mobile phone messages. apparently you don't change the standard security code every felon who comes with anyone can call your number and you don't answer tapping the standard for digit code to hear all your messages. i will change mine just in case but it makes me wonder how many public figures and celebrities are aware of the trick. when were you first made aware of this little trick? >> according to this january, 2001. >> were you aware of it before? >> no. >> who made you aware? >> i have no idea. i'm sorry. it was ten years ago. i can't remember. >> can you assist at all with the context? when you look at the entry which deals with something else altogether, just refresh your memory and all i will ask you to think hard. you don't necessarily have to identify the some one that suggested it to you but another journalist whether it was a friend. can you help us at all? >> if i can't remember who it is i can't narrow it down to a genre. i can't remember. >> do you recall an interview in 2007 with the press does that else for quite a good and i feel a lot of sympathy for a man who has been a convenient fall guy for an investigative practices as everyone knows was going on at almost every paper. >> yes. >> now, why did you say that? >> the rumor at the time it was exploding. i hadn't been there for three years but everyone you talk to said he was being made a scapegoat. this was a widely prevalent thing. i wasn't aware it was in any specific form. i was hearing these rumors like everybody else. the reality is that it certainly seems to have been much more widespread that one newspaper, and we now know that the guardian also was phonak tirso you have the two newspapers but certainly the why it apparently than just collided goodman but i'm not going to get into the rumors because that isn't the point of this inquiry. >> were you rumor mongering when you had the interview with the press gazette in 2007 were were you thinking from your own experience? >> i was passing on rumors. >> is a practice on the third newspaper and to the mix was taking place within the daily mirror the 14,004? >> i do not believe so, no. >> you don't believe so or you are sure? >> i don't believe so to the best of my recollection i do not believe so. >> and then there is june, 2009 what about this middle class boy who would have to be dealing with essentially people who break through people's bins for a living and then you say i and then you are cut off and she continues people who tap people's phones, people who take secret photographs -- and then you say i know, but -- and then you are interrupted again -- who do that nasty in the gutter stuff. how do you feel about that? and then you say to be honest let's put that into perspective as well. lots and lots of that went on and a lot of it was done and then she is really? and you say a lot of it was done by third parties rather than by the staff themselves. that's not to defend it because obviously you were running the results of their work. i am quite happy to be part of the tabloid beast than to have to sit here and defend all of the things i used to get up to and make no defense about what we used to do. i simply say the people doing it would were very wise and to the high end of the low end of the supposed new saber markets. so you were referring there that your newspaper was doing it? >> doing what? >> phone hacking among other things. >> no. i played it back the other day to remind myself. i go to answer a question immediately and she cut me off because i know exactly where she's going and she's talking about the kind of what i guess would be described as the darkness peter investigations with our it is and i was responding in general terms. i think you hear the tape deck in real time you can hear that. i didn't hear her say phone tapping and i certainly wasn't a looting to phone tapping. i was talking in a general way about the practices of undercover investigations and the nature of which by definition can often sound quite another fighting. >> of the third party is that you are referring to while the stuff themselves who were the of third parties in the general terms? >> people like the private investigators, anybody on the part of the photographers. >> what were the private investigators doing? >> i don't know specifics. i'm talking about the generalization of this investigative work. so people don't understand how the stories get into newspapers or how engaged the television news reports get on television. the way that the stories are gathered, the way they are protested can also sound identifying it doesn't make it illegal. >> i just wonder what you are intending to encompass by third parties and private investigators, mr. morgan, what activities worthy of to on your behalf? >> i don't know the specifics. but i think that i've been given a range of things from what we talked about to the top of the photographer to sticking people out of their homes. it's just not the kind of work that seems edify being that a free news organization with dewitt and the process of gathering news. it doesn't matter if you are a television company or a tabloid. >> are you saying that you didn't hear them mention people who tap people's phones? >> if you listen to the tape back you can see i didn't hear it. >> the transcript says people who tap people's phones and take secret photographs, and then you say i know, but -- and then to be fair she interrupt you again. >> i've already tried to answer the first point before she mentioned it. i didn't hear her say phone tapping. she rattles off a list of stuff and listen in real time fighting that you would see that. >> okay. and then another interview which is in gq magazine and should be under tavis seven team i hope, mr. morgan. >> yes. >> the fourth of february, 2011. >> it is not. >> it is a reprint of an article which was published in april of 2007. that's right. we are looking at is later. the same sort of phenomenon that we saw with steve and it was reprinted. unfortunately the way this is printed off and it is difficult to get these things off the internet, but it's about 13 pages in. >> i've got the pages to read >> when you pull out a large note pad and she starts interviewing you and the question she put to you at the bottom of the page, what do you think of the news of the world reporter who was recently found guilty of tapping the world's phone did you ever allow that when you were there? i was very in '94 and '95 before the moguls were used very much into that particular track wasn't known about. i can't get too excited. it is pretty well known that if you didn't change the code you got a new phone then reporters could bring your mobile, tap into the standard setting numbers and hear your messages. but nothing serious as planting a bug in someone's house which is what some people seem to think was going on. to read when you're saying it was pretty well known are you referring to what was pretty well known -- what period of time would you say is pretty well known, i will ask the question in that way. >> i know from my own book i became aware of it in early 2001, and i had vague memories after that of the gathering and i think members of public from what i hear is what a great trade secret. but it was a long time ago. >> okay. then they also expressed a view about its seriousness. did that indicate to us it wasn't superior? >> there was a misconception build of that involved journalists breaking into people's houses and planting bugs in their phones and i was really talking about the difference in my view in seriousness between that and what is actually a very simple thing to do from a mobile phone and something that i'm told although i have no evidence myself was widely known to the public and the use to do it to each other. >> if it is an invasion of privacy you say yes but loads of newspaper journalists were doing it. clive goodman called the news of the world reporter has been a scapegoat for the practices. so you are making it clear that what your beliefs was in april, 2006, is that correct? >> yes. it seems to be brought up. >> you were thinking not quite far, weren't you, mr. morgan, a very widespread practice, loads of newspaper journalists were doing at, and you were making statements there which were to suggest that you were basing yourself on personal knowledge even in what other people might have told you, wouldn't you agree? >> no, i wouldn't agree. >> but why did you say that he was made a scapegoat from the very widespread tactic? >> i would have thought that subsequent events would have shown he was made a scapegoat because it's a fact. estimate but then in april of 2007, we were looking at one individual, mr. goodman, and one private investigator that not many people were saying you is a very widespread practice and that is individuals happen to know it was a very widespread practice. did you see the point? >> i see your point but it was extremely noisy and often not entirely accurate since this blue up with endless rumors but it's spreading a lot and subsequent events have shown that not to be the case. so i do think that he was made a scapegoat and having known him when i was at news of the world i had felt sorry for him. >> a couple of questions further on. would you like it if someone listened to your messages? deduce to do it to me. >> who is they? >> that was my concern and the person who i can't remember said to me that they might be hacking the phones. what is that, they told me. i've been told people were doing it to me through the investigation which you may want to refer to leader but under no specifics i have got no proof or evidence of that. >> but then you say no i didn't like it and you subject to the reader that you knew far more about who was doing it to you than you are telling us now, mr. morgan. >> welcome i didn't like the thought of it. it was true i have actually no hard evidence it was true but i didn't like the idea and it certainly made sense of it because some of our stuff was leaking at the time. >> did the rumor that you are referring to embrace your newspaper is being amount to the perpetrators? >> not that i remember, no. >> come on, mr. morgan. your newspaper was near the top of the west, wasn't it? >> top of the list of what? >> the perpetrators carrying out this sort of practice and you know that. spicule also know that not a single person has made any formal or legal complaint against the daily mirror for phone hacking. not one. so why would you say that? >> i will continue with what you told ms. campbell just to complete this line of questioning. with new technology comes the new temptation and issues and this has brought the practice out into the open and it won't happen anymore. celebrities get a lot more privacy now than they are used to. so you believed that this practice was coming to an end, is that so, in april 2007? >> i certainly felt clive goodman the practice would be dead in the water, yes. >> have you listened to the recordings of what you knew to be illegally obtained a voice mail messages? >> i did not believe so, no pity estimate you either did or you didn't there is a question of belief. have you listened to recordings of what you knew to be the legally obtained voice-mail messages? >> i do not believe so. >> you know about the online peace which is sort had 22 for the 19th of october, 2006. could i invite you to look at that, please? under tabler one. we're looking at slightly different volumes. it's about ten pages stated the 19th of october, 2006. it is quite different headline. as a matter of introducing you to this so we got our bearings and when you say at the start of this is that it was you who introduced the karni to have their mills. that's when you said, isn't it? >> yes. >> if you want me to read them out you explain that he introduced other mills to paul after the show and what happened next as it were. i'm going to cut straight to the quick. in the middle of this page stories sunni urged the marriage was in trouble. do you have that sentence? at one stage i was played a tape of a message left on the mobile phone. can you remember the circumstances mr. morgan? >> i forget where i was it to do so would be to compromise a source and i can't do that. >> i'm not sure about that mr. morgan. you can discuss in general terms where it was, can't you? >> cat tolino i can't. >> as a tape of a voicemail message, wasn't it? >> i'm not able to discuss where i heard it or who and i think the inquiry already stated to me they don't identify sources. >> but they do expect you to identify what is obvious to anyone reading at is that you listen to 80 of the voice mail message, is that correct? >> i listen to a tape of the message, yes. >> a voicemail message, wasn't it? >> i believe it was coming yes. >> did you deal in more detail with what you heard paul was pleading with her to come back. so you listen to all of that. did you know that that was on ethical? >> not unethical, nope. >> why not? >> on the cheap voice-mail message you didn't think that was unethical? >> it depended on the circumstances. >> can you tell us something about the circumstances that might lead us to think that this was not unethical? >> i can't, no because i'm not going to do anything to the source. >> but the source was participating in the activity as you work and isn't that true? >> you are presuming it is unethical. >> let's give it this way mr. morgan. without identifying your source, the only person who would lawfully be able to listen to the message is the woman in question or somebody authorized on her behalf to listen to it. isn't that right? >> possibly. >> well? >> sorry, what do you expect me to say. >> another possibility if there is 1i think. >> well, i mean i can't go into the details of it without compromising the source and i'm not going to do that. ibm perfectly happy to call bill leedy mccarthy to give evidence as to whether she authorized you to listen to her voice mail. if she didn't she may say she did in which case you are not compromising anybody. but if she didn't, then we can proceed on the premise to somebody else, can't read? >> what we know from the fact is in the divorce case the state as a fact that she had recorded the conversations and had given them to the media hist. >> maybe i will do that then. >> can you help us as to when approximately you describe here this took place mainly listening to the message? >> i believe the early part of 2000, 2001 but i can't remember exactly when. >> clearly in the era that you were the editor of the daily mirror. spec i believe so, yes. >> an employee of the daily mirror? >> i'm not going to go any details about the source. >> you were not going to identify the source of you tell us whether or not the individual party or an employee of the daily mirror. >> i'm not going to start in the trail that leads to the identification of the source. >> did you listen to the voice mail messages in relation to erickson? >> malae did not. >> do you recall the lunch hosted by victor on the 20th of september, 2002, when you advised her to change her pen number and you started mimicking her swedish accent, do you remember the location? >> nope. i don't remember the specifics. i think i remember her coming to the lunch. >> breaking it down into its two parts. might you have advised her to change her pen number? >> i don't recollect that. >> mr. been makovsky pronounced his name correctly also had the one she indeed next two or close to? bennati did come to one of the lunches. he can to one of the launches but i don't know which one. >> did you tell him he should tell his customers to be more careful about changing their pen number? >> i don't recall that. >> might you have told them that? >> it is possible, yeah. >> can i tell you as generally as i can the circumstances in which have suggested if you did listen to johnson's voicemail that a competitor of yours had hacked into her voice mail. i'm sorry i'm not going to go into the details of that, they were them boasting about this and then someone told someone close to you who let it be known to you that this is what happened, and then you decided that we knew, in other words of the mirror that packed into the voice mail as well and that is precisely what happened? >> absolute nonsense. >> it's simply told she was having an affair with ericsson. she came back and confirmed it. >> page 330 of the insider right for the 18th of april, 2002. you may have to sit down for this one. are you with me? this would be with my new news supreme flown into my office looking even more pleased with himself than usual and i could tell from the grin on his face that this was a big one. you never set out who the source are, do you? >> not here, no. >> maybe the reason for your dissidents, pardon me, mr. morgan, is you didn't want to set out precisely who it was that the source was because you knew that that would be a bit tricky, would you agree with that? >> i wouldn't agree with that, no. >> and that is right. you did phone the agent and then there were various exchanges. but can i ask you to deal with the 21st of april the last line of i attribute this all to the comments of the close friends closing for comments what was that a reference to? >> a conversation with melanie kantor and she doesn't want to be named on the record but she would be happy for me to say a close friend she was. >> is in that a reference to whoever we see in the first place to confirm if it was correct? >> if they won't take the calls and if she says them on a attributed this to close friends. it's fairly obvious, isn't it? >> okay. you have seen i think the statement which is in our bumblebee and i will give you the tab in a moment. tabbed number nine, mr. morgan if you look at the bottom, page 24227. islamic it's actually not numbered. >> if you look at the bottom right hand side of each page do you see then a long number? >> i don't, no tariffs bigot is going to be the third page. >> okay. the paragraph beginning in the middle of the page, another example is the lack of corporate governance was the unfettered activity that the show business. are you with me? the show biz journalists on the 22nd floor were proposing if that were where the show biz journalists were based. >> i think so, yes. >> they were able to see close hand. have they carried out the pete using what has now become a well-known technique to act into the voice mail systems of celebrities and public relations executives the openness and frequency of the activity gave me the impression that it was considered a standard of the journalist tool for gathering information. in example on occasion to or more members of the show business team discussing what they've heard on the voicemail openly across their desks one of the reporters showed me the technique giving a demonstration of how to hack into voice mails. it seemed to be common on other newspapers as well, the journalists and the sun were also listening to voice mail messages but on occasion i heard the members having to ensure that no journalist would give the same scope by hacking it in themselves. is that something you knew about, mr. morgan? >> no. >> you're quite hands-on, weren't you? you were coming through show business journalists and more on the 22nd floor, 12? >> i liked them and they were very good at their jobs. >> but didn't you take a keen interest in what they were doing? >> i took a keen interest in everything that they were doing. >> so this was going on prior to the standard of the journalistic tour and it's something that indeed was going on wouldn't you agree? >> i think it follows that your evidence must be that it wasn't going on for me to your evidence is that it was going on. >> i have no reason or knowledge to believe it was going on. >> what did you yourself know from your own perception of what was going on? did you see this sort of thing going on at the moment? >> no. >> are you sure about that? >> 100%. it is also a convicted criminal to this benet you told us several times in the witness' statement but then you come close to arguing that the position rather than giving us evidence. can i just ask you a number of other planes on what he says. he says as well page to 40 that this is the fourth page for bylines from the bottom occasionally when the big stories emerge, he, that is you, might ask about the source of our information the prime concern been the credibility of the source and whether the paper would take the action of the publication with the story plan not to be from. is that correct? >> sorry, can you repeat that? >> you are asking him about the source of the information occasionally, he said. >> i dealt with -- i have no recollection of conversation with him about the source of any story. >> as a generality, just talking about your practice in the specific case, would you ask your journalists about the source of their information? >> not usually, no. >> on occasion, would you? >> so the next page where he says from my experience of working in the newspaper's news editors and editors asked reporters for the source of their story for the matter of cause the libel action having the apology the number-one concern is the right or not is that right? >> nope. >> are you seeking to distance yourself from the sources because the sources we are talking about are the fruits of phone hacking? >> nope. >> and then to pages further on, page 242, four lines from the top of the page, when he says there is however an undeniable pressure to deliver. is that right or not? >> a few tabloid newspapers we work for conventionally he would try to come up with some stories coming yes. >> then he continues the exquisite newspapers especially the sunday newspapers and every journalist is under pressure to bring them in. would you agree with that statement or not? paths to the journalists were under pressure to bring their stories. that is their shaunna description. >> to continue for example mr. morgan would regularly stand immelt e-mails for journalists not bringing in enough exclusives and these e-mails would often be in a tone. is that correct or not? >> i would quibble but i would certainly occasionally put a rocket up if i thought we were not performing well. >> have you seen the sentencing remarks of mr. justice in connection with the criminal proceedings against mr. boyle? [inaudible] >> just bear with me one moment. .. >> there is just one part i want to ask about about the particular circumstance. he says, the justice says on page five about 10 lines from the bottom, i also take into account the fact that at that time there is no formal code of conduct for the journalist at the daily mirror. is that correct or not? >> i do not believe there was in relation to the commission that was on display in the newsroom. journalist were expected to it here to the code. >> there's no guidance by your superiors or the in-house lawyers. would you agree with that? >> i would not. there was regular guidance from the lawyers of particular. >> then he continues, there is evidence of the culture of information within the office. would you agree with that? >> [inaudible] >> you don't think there residue that's at the time? >> search been journalists did buy shares but don't think that was a culture at all. >> i think you were one of them? you bought 67,000 pounds of shares in a company the day it was picked by "the daily mirror" on a january 18, 2000. it culminated upholding the complaint, no more than bad and also the four year investigation not taking the matter any further. is that right? fam i guess. >> originally i think your position was to only purchased the thousand pounds worth of shares. is that right? denied that was not my position i told the company immediately how many shares that i bought. >> the bbc adjudication referred 20,000 pounds worth of shares? >> i believe so. >> wasn't that based on the information that you provided? >> not that i provided. the company did. >> which company? >> i think it was trended the mirror? >> it must of an information and that you provided for them to provide. can we not agree about that? they would not know unless you told them. >> the trinity mirror, as they still referred to riches and -- merchanting. >> based on how much you provided? >> yes. >> one way or another we are under the impression not 67,000 pounds. is that right to? >> tennis the mirror and thereafter did we know about that? >> no. just to clarify they knew exactly how many shares that i bought. >> you know, how it is the ron information was provided? >> i believe the company took certain pieces of information that had not been made public which led to other people involved in the constructing of the story based on the secrets of the events that they were reading about in their total sums of money and the amount of the shares and the company felt for better or worse of this was information not to go into public demand because it would expose of the people involved which is pretty much what happened. >> the difference between the 20,000 pounds and the 67,000 pounds was based on some of the shares put into personal equity plan and the balance were put in your wife's name. is that right? been i think so. >> why isn't dead information that should not be provided in the first instance? >> "the daily mirror" did that i read the adjudication myself i tried to outline their reasoning. >> i ask you please about one of their injury in your diary. the transcript injury in a page of 269. the 28 of july 2000 we were offered of transcripts today that attention was drawn that if you don't win the case was about piers morgan? i don't know. now another call expands on the thoughts saying a he is out 20,000 pounds. at least everyone will know who did it. >> why did you say that transcript? >> seven a plan to have me assassinated the. >> some say it could relate to a circumstance in which it was obtained. is that not the possibility here? >> no. because i believe that aspect is that i was hoping this is not the actor record of the conversation taking place. >> can i ask you about paying police officers? is that happen well you were editor at the daily mirror? >> i have no reason to believe so. >> do say that it was not brought to your attention? >> i have never been made aware of any evidence of that at all. >> can i ask you to clarify one entry into the diary we pre-notified you of this and forgive me if we didn't but it relates to evidence that is given twos the culture and the select committed -- committee 2003. do you recall that? fam i recall hearing. >> your position on that occasion standard since it tabloid press have improved in the previous few years is that correct? >> then there is the paragraph later rebecca excelled herself to a net sheet talk to the policeman for information i talk to her about the last minute and she apologized that is why she should never be seen nor heard in public. i will not ask about that particular sentence would of your reference to mou droppings the tabloid back was a general reference or general exceptions too legally pay the policeman that went on in the tabloid press generically. would you agree with that? >> no. why did you say that? >> because it was getting attention of the press i thought it was a mistake. >> in what sense? she said it was a mistake. >> was a mistake because she should not have said it or that it was untrue? to do you see the distinction? >> >> there is another incident that caught my attention when a journalist was put on the cover of buckingham palace for a number of weeks to do recall that he may be hearing from him at some stage is that something you organized? >> yes. it was. >> why? >> on the faces seem to be a massive security breach which is what it turned out to me. >> won the u.s. instigated of course? >> >> did you published any stores as a result? been i guess. it led for about one week. >> did you feel that was in the public interest? >> absolutely. >> why mr. morgan? >> because we expose a huge series of loopholes in the community's system around the royal family that was so easy to expose we could have easily been a terrorist and if we were and not journalists than the royal family members may not be here today it is hard to imagine anything more in the public interest in that. >> i am sorry to go back in time now we're going back considerably to the seventh of july 1994 page 40 this is the injury for the seventh of july 1984. what the talk about of the mannose switchboard operator become name of assessed and this is a story in which upon further investigation you did not publish? >> correct. >> can you explain why there was evidence the female switchboard operator was psychiatric day disturb or ill a lot of people breakdown when we confront them and threatened to kill themselves. was that an accurate statement? >> i think it was more of a general sense of when people are confronted, they do tend to play the card. >> and then you say there is of a difference for ago i could not live with myself if we expose her on page 17 then she would kill herself. >> between a pedophile and somebody who runs the switchboard? i think that is fairly self evident. >> please explain it in this context. >> one is potentially rate being young children and the other is managing the switchboard. >> at pdf vyyo -- pedophile at the time presumably not doing those things just be cut as they have them pedophiles in the past? >> i certainly think it is in the public interest. yes. then to say sometimes the job does feel like you're playing with people's lives. we find out who lives and dies is that an accurate description of slightly borrowed language? and from what that entails. >> i think it is. >> that could be ruthless highly destructive instrument? is that true as well? >> yes. >> i have not had any sleepless nights yet but i can feel them coming. of course, it wasn't that much longer your own me on for another 13 months before you moved on the but you had immense powered didn't you? then with "the daily mirror"? >> this may do feel you has sufficient judgment at the age of 282 wait out-- difficult issues against the public interest, mr. morgan? >> i did my best. >> but did you have the necessary judgment to carry out that exercise looking back? >> i would say i was unusually young for a job like at and i relied on those who were much more experienced you were more valuable but it is saved to say that i was pretty young. i was 28. >> a new word editor of news of the world you paid 250 pounds per week to be in the sunday mirror? >> the paper did. >> is that something you knew about? >> i was made aware of it. yes. >> it is the disgrace and totally unethical. would you agree? >> probably. yes. >> one example of altering or dr. rainn photographs midday princess diana photograph made them look as if they are kissing? >> yes. that was a stupid thing to do. we did not actually, the public the pitcher was the exact same appearing in a rival paper it came as a result of digital photography and they would miss huge -- miss use the original images i think we all saw that was not a good idea. >> kimmie talk about your attitude -- attitude about privacy to go back four pages from the end of this interview the top right-hand corner says page #2 of six the question is how you feel about snitches? to sell private information to the paper. do pay them? yes. they are disgusting little over men and to help you sell papers yes. there again i agree but that does not mean the editors don't think the people selling them are horrible now you are a celebrity has your view of those privacy laws change? no because those of the last people that should be protected by the privacy law they use-- they use the media the most to sell the privacy for money. were you referring to all celebrities there? >> in what context? >> the answer to the question that was put to you >> i have struggled to find this because this is not an order i am sending as you read that. can you identify the paragraph? >> four pages from the end then you'll see page #2 out of six may be too out of seven. it is quite a difficult website. >> i have it now. >> my view of celebrities and privacy is that it really depends, i am sure this will come as a central core rate to the inquiry, how much privacy are you entitled to do if you are a famous person or public figure if you yourself use your privacy for commercial gain. those that sold their weddings 41 billion pounds but then expect to have privacy it just seems to me at nonsensical position to adopt i have more sympathy for those celebrities that do not do that kind of thing. >> i think you are going further here but it's maybe you are being wound up by interlocutors adjusting all celebrities are not deserving of any sympathy at all because they sell their privacy for many? >> i think they are the last people who should be protected buy privacy laws or those who are the most deserving all of the celebrity because i have the benefit of experience on both sides of the coin, the reality is in then going to those ordinary people of the public i consider myself very fortunate and others do not expect and that they use the media to promote themselves in that brand brand, but they do not like the top. you just cannot have it both ways. >> by your attitude to use the bbc, the party new-line which the firm and the it is california adjudication of the pc see and all made to have a mention and the. >> yes. that could be the act your question. >> we have attached paragraph 34 of your first statement page 82 of the insider, maybe we should ticket upper on page number 81. four lines from the bottom and this is he was a year precisely how you intend to smash the opposition into oblivion. but is that more or less correct in regards to your state of mind, mr. moore 10? >> but then you attribute i am sorry about the press complaining thingamajig he said to my astonishment. is that what mr. murdoch said? >> that was my memory. i do not have a recording of is. >> that thingamajig part to is that jive with what you recall him having said? >> in my memory the fact i could not remember in that moment the exact wording i would not read too much into it. >> that you will say that this must have continued with you that was one of astonishment? >> dividend of background for this, the front-page which i a created and i take full responsibility only came about because it has effectively suggested it will not be a good idea. >> you may not remember the precise words but one does remember emotions or feelings when something is said. that must have been at your state of mind when he did answer did you agree? >> he was taken aback by this year coverage of the issue the first time he made the statement against nature and i was getting kicked all over the place and he new-line was very on. he knew that i made said dumb decision that night team jane the front page at the last moment and i think he wanted to express a sense of understanding and he did. >> then your diary continues he definitely use the word sorry. writes? >> ee so. yes. >> definitely with you. >> as i say, this is 1995 so i would have written this 10 years later sorry suspect that it was cleared by eight this failure that he does not get tough about it. that is the message. >> it was my eight assumption in me nine the his recollection i gaskin when we get there. that is the impression he left you with? >> yes. that is how i saw it. >> also that if it did is it really from the news of the world, i would suggest to the mirror as well that people did not care about the talks? >> no. absolutely they did. may i cover. [inaudible] mr. morgan we have now where do of this the difficulty of the questions let me know but they are innocuous or at least not require you to more than agreed or this -- does agree. how many face to face me teens did you have with tony blair? to the number you gave was. >> it was just he and i. >> >> here from rescissions' of them were a. >> the position your newspaper was taking related to the opposition of government at a material time? >> yes. >> the iowans conference, page 93, please, of the insider from 1995. is my recollection correct the year were in the cayman tie-in dose julia

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a little foggy and thick. >> the humidity has not gone away. it is still warm. temperatures are around 70 degrees give or take. kind of nice to get the rain the past few days. we have the severe weather that went with it, not so good. but we needed the general rainfall across the area because things were getting brown. we did satisfied that but we picked up problems as well with localized heavy rain causing flooding, minor flooding for the most part. as was mentioned -- and you will see stories -- a little severe weather. but now all of that is moving offshore and eventually some of the humidity will, too. but the rain is close by. just off shore ocean city. skies are clear over baltimore. but most of the raid is out over the ocean. places like that, southeast virginia. it will keep moving away and we have a pretty nice weekend in- store. we will talk about the details of the forecast coming up. >> thank you. if the weather is the big story. we have been talking about this off-camera, how fast and furious the rain came down friday causing flooding concerns. >> as president are still dealing with damage from thursday's storm. >> the afternoon downpour left much of frederick submerged under water. water levels were so high in some areas that intersections have to be shut down. lorraine did accumulate in the dundalk parking lot. all on the heels of the nasty weather that blew through thursday night. these crews spent the day clearing debris at salvaging what they could. >> i am just trying to help the neighbors. they own the barnyard up here. >> five businesses had significant damage, including the manufacturers of this portable said which washed up downstream. several merchants also reported flooding. >> once the bridge gets debris underneath the water starts to back up and constantly happening. >> once a year at least. but like i said, from what i recall this is probably the worst. >> at four seasons court -- the gusty winds ripped up two rooftops. more than a dozen units have been condemned and the red cross is at -- red cross as helping displaced families. it knocked down trees. in a cockyville -- >> the rhodes are torn up and it will take weeks and weeks to get repaired. >> wbal-tv 11 news. >> don't forget, you can also check severe weather alerts live on interactive radar. see where the most severe storm cells are moving, all on wbaltv.com and on your cell phone, just click on weather. here is something you don't see every day -- the fire department responded to the police department. this is what happened in cromwell, connecticut. it was not for a fire but instead flooding. heavy rains caused flash flooding in several parts of connecticut. if several lost power. >> baltimore, police are investigating an accident that left one person dead are around 930 last night at the intersection of johnnycake road and rte. 40. and several people are recovering this morning after a cruiser collided with the two other vehicles in the 3000 block of st. paul street. the officer and several others were treated with minor injuries. >> there is a new information this morning on the state police investigation of the bizarre attack on high-speed camera via got along 295 near the airport. police may have found something that the suspect left behind. david collins has more. >> the hood of the speed camera vehicle may lead evidence for who is irresponsible for attacking the jeep with a hammer and taunting the operator by tapping a shotgun against the window. state police found fingerprints. the results are not back. investigators believe the suspect may have leaned on the vehicle during some point. >> witnesses said the individual was at the vehicle, striking the windshield with a hammer and walking around the vehicle. >> a number of witnesses have since come forward. according to police, some stopped on 295 southbound to what to the attack. what does it helped develop a better description. now described as a white veil, 6 feet, 220 pounds, gray-haired, clear glasses, red and blue shirt -- blue jeans, caring a backpack. the speed camera operator told authorities the man yelled incoherently before striking the windshield with a small hammer and then left the same way the arrived. >> he is seen going back into the wooded area on concourse road. but if the suspect acted on impulse, which many fear rise, he was unbelievably lucky to find a direct route to the jeep. more than likely plant and counting. the path crosses a creek and leads to a large hole in the sense that appears to have been here awhile. what looks like a well-traveled trail at is a long the fence before veering left and then where the ground levels off with the jeep was parked. >> there is no definitive suspect being looked at and investigators are continuing to reduce surveillance tapes and trying to find what this is to interview. >> a federal judge has decided state attorney general lawsuit over those election day robo calls can move forward. political operative julia's and send recently tried to get the judge to stop the civil suit. -- julien henson. a judge denied the motion, setting -- saying the court can handle the issue of the rises. it alleges the robo calls violated federal law by trying to suppress turnout. he says it was not his intention and he believes the calls were not illegal. >> the latest jobs report paints a discouraging picture of the nation's economic recovery. employers added only 18,000 jobs in june, nudging the nation's unemployment rate from 9.1 to 9.2%. brian more has -- moahr has the story. >> u.s. unemployment virtually stalled, net growth of 18,000 jobs. that nudged the unemployment rate to 9.2% and raises some serious recovery concerns. >> our economy as a whole just isn't producing nearly enough jobs for everybody who is looking. >> president obama blamed economic headwinds -- natural disasters, sky high gas prices and government budget cuts that slashed 39,000 jobs. despite an early morning rain in louisville, kentucky, people began lining up before dawn to apply for more than 1800 jobs at a retooled for plant. >> abbas and his like this don't come around and this type of economy so i had to be here. >> while the economy added 6000 manufacturing jobs in june, that is a drop in a very big bucket. >> anywhere you cut the data, it is lousy. >> the president called congressional leaders back on the white house sunday to break the stalemate over the debt ceiling and government spending. democrats and republicans are united on one point -- they don't like what they are hearing so far. >> we are not going to reduce the deficit or subsidized tax cuts of reached the ridge on the backs of america's seniors and working families. >> there is no agreement in private or in public, and as the president said yesterday, we are this far apart. >> the white house of laurie expectations for sunday's meeting, predicting bottom lines but not breakthroughs. >> former first lady betty ford has died. at the white of late president gerald ford passed away in palm springs. >> this morning she is being remembered not only for years and the white house but her fight on behalf of william to struggle with addiction. a look back at her life and legacy. >> elizabeth board, better known as betty, never thought to be first lady. she was thrust into the spotlight after watergate claimed the presidency of richard nixon. she saw the job as a challenge of the inner strength that became her trademark. >> day and then with the biggest impact of my life was the day my husband took office as president. >> she married gerald ford in 1948 and began life as a life -- wife of a politician and a mother and housewife. >> i like my career as a housewife and mother and i think my life has been much fuller and broader and i am happier than i would have had -- been in what is somewhat a narrow life that you have to give up everything to become a professional. >> as first lady, she was vocal, speaking out in support of women's rights. when faced with breast cancer in 1974 " she spoke openly about the disease and her mastectomy, topics not discussed in public in those days. she also spoke openly about her battles with alcohol and drugs and established the betty ford treatment center. once out of washington, mrs. ford rarely stepped back into the political spotlight, with a rare appearances with other former presidents and their wives, but she remained active in the cause as close to her heart. bruce hall, nbc news. >> betty ford was 93 years old. no funeral arrangements have been made yet but a family spokesperson says of her body will be sent to michigan for borrow alongside former president gerald ford was buried at his namesake library. you can read more on our website, wbaltv.com, just click on national news. >> 68 degrees. a great way to cool off in the summer but swimming can cause a painful ear infection if you are not careful. >> some teens getting a firsthand lesson on how 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[ male announcer ] honey nut cheerios tastes great and can help lower cholesterol. >> now your forecast with meteorologist john collins. >> we had a couple of stormy days along with pretty humid weather, very tropical, a lot of rain. now all of that is moving out of the picture for the time being. it is summertime, of course, some more will come. but the rain the past couple of days mostly moved offshore, showing on the radar satellite, the nation. southeast virginia and the virginia capes right along the atlantic ocean still getting funded shower activity. the clouds and still reach back to portions of the lower eastern shore but we are clear overhead here in town. 68 is the temperature at the airport. inner harbor, 75. humidity is still up there -- normally it is really high at -- pretty high in the morning. the barometer is low but now showing rising tendency as the front has slipped to the east. 87 was yesterday's high. it felt warmer because all of the humidity. but at least it was not in the 90's at the airport officially. inner harbor did make it to 90 degrees. we are not much cooler this morning. a little over a quarter inch of rain fell at the airport yesterday but just over a quarter of inch at the inner harbor, so it was the varying amounts. there were pockets of really heavy rain and then pockets of kind of in significant rain, a quarter inch variety. typically this time of year 87 is the high, and that is what we did get yesterday. of course, the humidity made a big difference. temperatures with morning mostly in the 70's. once we get into the grain, upper 60's to around 70 and it reaches all the way back to western maryland, which is in the low 60's. this is the dividing line. the front is a little south. but the drier air is filtering and slowly but surely. these are the dew point temperatures. that is the key. tropical air. dew point and is in the 70's -- that is down to the south. where you see spots of yellow close to the bay, but in the northwest it dropped to below 60's. a little more tolerable. that will be focusing in behind the storm system, much drier air. the map shows the front well to the south -- high pressure over us. this is our weekend weather. nice, dry air. the forecasters calling for mostly sunny skies. still warm but less humid. northwest winds, 5-15, 88-92 for a high. that is pretty close for the typical temperature for this time of year. seven-day forecast, up 80's to near 90 today but less humid and it makes all the difference. sunday, a good day, too, similar they to today. by late monday in to tuesday, we start picking up clouds and eventually generating storm activity with the highest chance tuesday. the rest of the week looks dry. a look of the temperatures, even though up to 90 monday and tuesday, cooler air filters and by the end of the week. >> losing an unborn child can be devastating for any mother. next in medical alert, research and develop a tool that will likely to predict a miscarriage. >> history was made as the last american space shuttle blasted off into space. we will have the latest on atlantis. >> after a week-long trip to canada, the war uncouple finally in the good old usa. details of the three-day [ man ] did we get anything good? sweetie i think you need a little extra fiber in your diet. fiber makes me sad. oh common. i dare you to taste one hint of fiber in fiber one. oh, i'd be able to tell. why don't i just eat this bag? and how can you talk to me about fiber when you are eating a candybar. you enjoy that. i am. [ male announcer ] fiber beyond recognition. fiber one. >> the time is now 5:19 a.m., and in this morning's alert researchers develop a tool they say can predict which women are more likely to suffer a miscarriage. experts in the u.k. found that three levels of the hormone hcg and monitoring how much bleeding has occurred predicted pregnancies that ended in miscarriage 77% of the time. the also predicted which pregnancies progress 94% of the time. it studied 100 women between six and 10 weeks pregnant. summer and swimming often go hand in hand but it can lead to a painful ear infection that could leave you sitting poolside. the cdc says every year swimmer's ear leads to 2.4 million visits to the doctor. but as i am not consult tells us, there are ways to rented. >> this year nose and throat specialist is treating his teenage patient for an outer ear infection known a swimmer's ear. >> there is a lot of water so that causes it to drain out. >> swimming provides the perfect opportunities for water to get trapped inside the ear canal. >> swimmer's ear is going to be an infection of the ear canal itself. >> if your child is spending a lot of time in the water this summer, here is a simple test parents can do if there is your pain. >> if the mother or father can take the year and just wiggled the ear -- and the external, swimmer's ear, that will cause significant pain. >> swimming in untreated water like an ocean or leg is more likely to cause an infection. clearing water out of the ear canal can prevent it from setting in. so, dry your tears after swimming or showering. while dr. singer uses a special and to men, here is an easy thing you can do at home. >> you can put some alcohol and a cotton ball, told the child's head and slowly drifted in the ear and then raise up. >> he also recommends blowing warm air from a drier into your ear to get that water out. but it appears become swollen, painful, or have fluid draining, you need to get to a doctor for prescription drops. >> that was diana gonzales. a lot of people think swimmer's ear is a mild conditions that will go away on its own but experts say that is not true, and while children were the focus of this report, the cdc says more than half of these reported infections are from adults. the royals have finally arrived, the duke and duchess of cambridge will be mingling with those and tens of town. -- tinseltown. but first we show you evidence around town. they want to know more about how they were raised, what they were fed. we spend a lot of time on the feed because a chicken is what it eats. 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[ male announcer ] that's why you need the internet rated #1 for supporting multiple users and devices simultaneously. verizon fios. a network ahead. call the verizon center for customers with disabilities at 800-974-tty/v. >> the warriors -- after spending the weekend of the royals are in the usa today to begin a three-day visit to southern california with a schedule will of celebrities and public appearances. more on kate's first trip stateside. >> the duke and duchess of cambridge touched down on u.s. soil friday afternoon, greeted at los angeles airport by an entourage that included the governor and first lady. they were immediately whisked away to the beverly hills photo where they turned a venture capital conference into a major celebrity event. >> we have a feature came here. >> prince william and kate were there to promote the united kingdom by version of silicon valley before an audience of ceo's and potential investors. it is their first trip together to the united states and it has brought out worrell watchers from as far away as bachmann. >> we adore them. >> we watched the will wedding and then we started planning because we heard the overcoming to l.a.. >> southern california is the couple's only stop during their three-day u.s. visit, the other close friends and alton john and david and the tory back, have homes here, they will stay at the british consul general's mansion where they were welcomed friday night by top state and city leaders. next, prince william plays in a charity polo match in santa barbara. then they will help promote the british film industry at a black-tie event for the british academy for film and television arts. that and then will feature up- and-coming british talent and the invite list is filled with hollywood royalty, including nicole kidman and tom hanks. the couple will also visit an arts center for disadvantaged youth in downtown l.a. before heading back home sunday afternoon. >> 68 degrees on tv hill. coming up, and look at the top stories. >> and a watch party for the space shuttle atlantis with employees at the goddard space flight center. >> the grain is moving out of the pictures of the weekend looks pretty good -- the rain is moving out of the picture, so the weekend looks pretty good. the weekend looks pretty good. i think it can. one of the challenges for kayla being gluten-free is actually finding choices the whole family will love. then we discovered chex cereals. five flavors of chex are gluten-free, including the honey nut flavor, and that's amazing to a mom like me. as a parent you don't want to have to tell youkids "n all the time. it's nice for me to be able to say "yes" to something that they want to eat. [ male announcer ] chex cereal. five flavors. gluten free. >> welcome back to 11 news saturday morning. >> our top story is in a moment. but first, john is here. what is going on? >> calming down. >> good. >> we had tumultuous whether the past couple of days but we needed the rain, we did not need the severe parts and the flooding. but we got the soaking. you have to give a little to get a little. the benefits of all of that, it was a cold front that came through. and it doesn't mean we are going to cool off as much as drop some of the humidity, some of the crazy humidity we had for a chunk of last week. so, that will, in essence, make it eventually feel more comfortable. the little more timid this morning. the front is still producing rains in southeast virginia and virginia capes on the southeast. our forecast is really a good one for the next couple of days and we will detail of all coming up. >> taking a look at some of our top stories but attempted murder charges have been filed against two men accused of setting fire to an oak ridge home. santiago gonzales miner and edvin reyes conspired to conspiredminer's wife, the two were divorcing at the time. several were injured. both are being held without bond. police are searching for this man who was mistakenly released from baltimore central booking. hassan champion is from west baltimore and was detained on drug charges. it yet any information on his whereabouts, call 911. a big-time player and baltimore's bail industry is heading to prison. he is being sentenced for four years for tax fraud, convicted of filing a false tax return and defrauding the company and accepted payment for work he never did. >> the ending an era -- after more than 30 years of the space shuttle program is coming to a close. >> 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5 -- all three engines up and burning. 2, 1, 0 -- and lift off. the final lift off of that lances. >> atlantis blasted off for space yesterday, the last american space shuttle voyage. thousands packed cape canaveral to watch that big moment. but the final lap dog was also a big moment here in maryland. tim tooten has a closer look at this-a memories the shuttle program leaves behind for employees of the maryland goddard space flight center. >> the final liftoff of atlantis on the shoulders of the space shuttle. >> it was an emotional moment for got word employees as they watched the final voyage in nasa that is a program. >> i cried. i worked for the hubble space telescope for many years and i have seen many servicing missions. the best program. now i am working for a telescope we will launch a few years. >> this sophisticated robot that refueling module built by the employees is a key part of the payroll -- pay load. it was seen but a robot can feel a satellite and space. it will be mounted on a platform also designed and developed in maryland. >> goddard was responsible for design, integration, testing -- and what we did was send a palettes down to kennedy space center. kennedy spacegoddard employees were not the only ones on hand -- in the crowd, an educator who saw this a teachable moment. >> the kids i am working with are not my personal students but that is really needs them to be able to be here and to be part of what is going on with the last mission. >> it was pretty amazing. atmosphere was crazy. >> for at least one student, it was a time to make memories and to claim bragging rights. >> i was at nasa when they did the last launch, it is going to be something to be -- not everyone will be able to say that. >> in million pounds of hardware and humans taking aim. >> you can expect another round of celebrations when atlanta's returns to earth from its 12-day mission later this month. doddered spaceflight center in greenbelt -- the daughter space flight center in greenbelt. pictures of more all of the launches can be found that wbaltv.com. >> the lesson of a lifetime for distracted driving for some baltimore teenagers. one insurance group's efforts to teach good writing skills. >> four star dining from top shelf -- top chefs in baltimore without setting foot and a restaurant. the first ever food truck gathering. >> a front came through generating a lot of rain. it will not cool things off that much. it will still be beth! hi. looking good! you've lost some weight. thanks! you noticed! you know these clothes are too big now, so i'm donating them. not going back there again. good for you! how'd you do it? eating right, whole grain. whole grain? whole grain. [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't... multigrain cheerios has five whole grains and 110 lightly sweetened calories per serving... more grains. less you! multigrain cheerios. >> let's take a look at that a radar and satellite combination. the clouds and rain have all moved out of the baltimore area. still clouds in the lower eastern shore and a little rain activity offshore -- except -- except on around norfolk, getting a thunderstorm activity. all moving out of the picture. we are setting up for a good day and a good weekend -- with a slightly different conditions that we have laid in the week. it is still warm out there this morning. the inner harbor checks in at 75, 96% humidity, the barometer is rising, and at the moment the winds are calm. still kind of a warm morning. taking a look at temperatures in the yellow -- ratings generally in this 70's. in that greens, drop some 70's into the low 60's, so the cooler air is still pouring in. it is not completely cool. still a warm morning, but still a little humid but give it time. the front still trying to push out of the area. if we still have a little taste of the tropical air. during the day today, some of the dryer stopped in the northwest will be faltering in and make conditions relatively pleasant when you consider what some untaught -- summertime normally is. by this evening the front will be down to the carolinas and a lot of the dryer and less humid air will be filtering in. but this isn't a blast of cold air from canada so it will dramatically change temperatures at all but change humidity more than anything else. but the high pressure over the great lakes by this evening will be the thing that dominates the weather for the entire weekend and really for the first day of next week as well sunny today, still warm and less humid. northwest winds at 5-15, 88-92 for the high time it. that is about where we have been the last couple of days. winds north instead of south, 5- 10 knots, 1-foot shop. temperatures have gotten themselves up in the low 80's. not exactly bathwater but getting there. the future cast shows the dry conditions that will dominate all weekend long. by monday elements of the next round but it does not look that significant at all. at least the reins back to the ohio river valley and that a big deal. the ocean city forecast, a few clouds of this morning and then clearing out. 82 is the high, tomorrow looks great. monday looks good, too, with a high of 83 and the humidity drops of a little bit. the forecast for the general area, dry weekend, less humid weather. 89 today, 91 tomorrow. by monday night into tuesday, rain chances begin to go up. most of monday will be all right but we will pick up clouds. 92 is the high on tuesday. once the next front goes through we drop the humidity, drop temperatures in the mid 80's and wednesday, thursday, friday, all looked like. >> like a phoenix rising from the ashes, a sign of rebirth in downtown tulsa and -- towson. it what started with a grease fire destroyed a popular restaurant and owners say the new restaurant will be bigger and better and plans to hire a new staff. the charles village pub will open early next year. >> charging -- judging from the long lines, it seems like the first mobile culinary showcase is a success. people pack the parking lot of central and eastern avenue at harbor eased fears today for the first food truck gathering. hundreds, including the mayor, waited and long lines for a chance to sample a variety of foods in one location. >> and i think our support and the public support is very evident in the size of the crowd. >> this is the food truck celebration. we're here together to celebrate and let everyone know you can have great, but listen restaurant quality food off of the truck. >> if you missed it yesterday, don't worry. the food and drug is expected to roll out every month. >> the silver platter was there with the baby back ribs and lobster macaroni and cheese. my goodness. >> did you sample of that? >> really good. six people involved in a triple kidney transplant met each other for the very first time. >> drunk driving -- distracted driving kills people in every day on the roads. how some teenagers get a look at how dangerous it can be. >> first, a look at your winning lottery numbers. these sweet honey clustery things have fiber? fiber one. almost tastes like one of jack's cereals. uh, forgot jack's cereal. 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[ male announcer ] half a days worth of fiber. not that anyone has to know. fiber beyond recognition. fiber one. >> kidney donors and recipients in a triple exchange plant -- transplant met for the first time at the university of maryland medical center. doctors say each recipient came to doctors with a donor who turned out not to be a match. the transplant were arranged through the paired kidney exchange program, including a pair of fraternal twins who were surprised to learn there were not compatible. after they were paired with the donors they had it is removed through a single incision through their belly buttons. >> i came out of the surgery but nothing but a band-aid. i don't believe it. i looked at my belly button every day, and it is no different. i have no scars to show. >> incredible. the university of maryland is the first hospital in the state and only the third in the country to offer this single concession donation technique for a living kidney donors. >> in 2009 there were 5500 car crashes caused by distracted driving and teenagers are the most likely to be killed in a distracted driving accident. yesterday some baltimore area teens get a case -- taste of the consequences of talking or texting on the phone down and the wheel. -- behind the wheel. >> this 17-year-old is trying to concentrate on driving. >> they are distracting you every which way. you have some of the people of the music is loud and are asking you questions and are throwing things back and forth. it is hard to make it through. >> she is learning firsthand how hard it is to drive while distracted. she is taking part in all state's safe driving challenge. the first go through an obstacle choice -- course without the saxons and then while being distracted by others in the car and then that is when the cohns take a tumble. >> a lot of people think they are great drivers, can text or talk on the phone while driving, but it is one of those things that are cognitively not able to do. we hope they go home and tell their parents and friends but the dangers of distracted driving our. >> statistics show distracted driving can be just as dangerous as getting behind the wheel after three of four drinks and after this experiment the teens say they know why. >> i was a lot more concentrated on what i was typing and not what i was peering through. >> i hear -- i am still shaking because it was freaky. >> this person knows better than any one of the consequences. his daughter had third was killed and a car accident caused by a distracted drivers. >> we know what it feels like each and every day to go through life without our daughter. so, we are hoping to haven't -- help another family never have to feel the pain we feel every day. >> he has become an advocate to end distracted driving and is encouraged that after the experiment be teenagers say they will change their ways. >> i will not use my phone at all. >> organizers are hoping that practice will catch on. >> and the organizers of the safe driving challenge are advocates of the stand-up act, a federal bill that would require all teens to get graduated licenses. to find out how you can help get that bill passed you can place a link -- go to wbaltv.com and click on 3d project. >> have you been shopping lately? in know, summer is getting is just part of retailers are putting out back to school stuff. >> and what internet providers are doing to put a stop to illegal downloading. >> coming up in sports, we will check in on the orioles at fenway where they finally showed fenway where they finally showed honey, why aren't youot what playing with your friends? i am playing with my friends. hey, mrs. d... joseph? sarah! it's mommy's turn now. let's go. 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[ male announcer ] and we think that's the best prize of all. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing icy hot naturals with natural menthol. it's gets icy to dull pain, hot to relax it away fast. new icy hot naturals. >> the run the orioles have been on as a late has been one of the worst we have seen in some time, and that of a bold statement for the franchise in the midst of the 14th consecutive losing season. at a game where they look disinterested they came to life near the end. really does believe that what he is seeing at the starting pitching. zack britain facing david ortiz an absolute disaster. papi going deep. it continues 6-nothing. it gets worse. elsbury, making it 7-nothing. brad pitt 12 but had to leave the game. bottom of the aids and things get interesting. kevin gregg, he already through 1 pitsch deemed to inside. that led to that. goodness gracious. we have ourselves an official brawl. punch is thrown, not many landed. but for the orioles a look like they've been -- if they could not do it on a baseball field with stills at least they would do it man-to-man. >> if i am going to pitch and in, i will pitsch and in. three-zero, they are up 7. i think there are ethics, guidelines you have to stay within. run. hit a lazy fly ball, you have to run the bases. >> can't wait to see the fireworks later tonight. game 3 of this series. you can hear it on wbal radio. william and kate are a royal couple -- and our version is flacco and his bride, dana. look at the wedding pictures. they had so much fun. we are seeing the fun side of joe. front and center with his new bride dana, lining of the groomsman in the football setting. jal has cleaned up. -- joe has cleaned up. the unibrow is gone but this picture looks like a movie poster. the quarterback for the ravens coming of age. i will see you back here tonight at 6:00. >> he did say the best for last. i want to see those pictures again dared it is a monster jam like never before in baltimore. the massive trucks will work to life at an nt stadium with one of marilyn's on behind the wheel. >> i have not got to drive since two years ago but really looking for to the hometown crowd. >> travis has fired up to drive nitrous circuit at pick the monster jam. the x games superstars said is the most fun sport and that says a lot of and the monkey is about to have. >> x games is the biggest event, i came home to begin training. it is also the same week and i will start a nationwide debut at nascar and going back to indianapolis to the rally. a big month coming up. >> on saturday, m&t bank will come alive with the warring sound of monster trucks. >> we've got 16 of the biggest, baddest trucks you could ever thing -- honestly, in my opinion, probably will be the best show we have ever had. >> . anderson is the driver of the son of a digger and he will be in the pit with his dad, the original grave digger. he says to make a monster truck monster is the tires. >> it has always been the tires. 66 inches tall, 43 inches wide and 25-inch wheel. >> each truck weighs a minimum of 5 tons and a cost no less than a quarter of a million dollars and can go up to 100 miles an hour. on saturday you will see elimination of competition followed by a freestyle events and ryan says this is where real fun begins. >> that is where you see the action -- crashes, carnage, fire, anything you want to see will happen. >> you might remember the raven's just put down new turf last season. never fear, it is being protected by more than 6000 pieces of plywood and tons of dirt. there is a pit party saturday for pictures and autographs and the show begins at 7:30 p.m. >> the kids to drag the parents and then the parents keep the kids here at the end. everybody becomes a fan. they fired up a grave digger, the legend, and loud cannot even begin to describe the sound. if you are going to see the show the stadium is a place to do it because it will not hurt your ears so bad. >> don't they pass out earplugs? >> and they have here things for the kids to wear, like ear muffs. >> quite a show. surprise you did not get in there and drive. >> they would not let me. i asked. they said no. >> it is probably for the best. >> all the rain we have gotten the last couple of days has created some problems for folks. up next, we will show you some of the hard-hit areas. >> remembering former first lady betty ford who passed away at the age of 93. men of the rain has moved out of the picture. -- >> the rain has moved out of the picture. what is next? dam every john of music will be on the performance stages as well as performances on the fare to go read -- venues. new is the rabbit hole and press on park where nature and art coexist in an outdoor sculpture garden and fantasy environment. in celebration of the year of its inception, the charles street bridge will be home to art, music, and fashion inspired by the 1980's. the list of what can be seen, dawn, and experience goes on and on. wbal-tv 11 is a proud sponsor of our state and we will encourage you to go to our state and enjoy your choice of visual and performing arts. go to for a schedule of activities and we will see you at our escape.

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7:00 a.m.. we want to go to our top story where we are covering the royal wedding. it was it unfolds over a period of hours before billions of people watched around the world. about 1 million in the streets. as you see the couple is writing in the carriage. earlier this morning. they are not husband and wife. they were married earlier this morning. there she is, dressed in yellow. you can see all of the well-wishers that have arrived at the wedding. this is after they had horseback a company met. william is second in line to the throne after his father prince charles. he wore his military garb because he is in the army. kate, is wearing a lace and satin dress. it was about an 8 ft. long train. the designer, sarah burton. lettuces and into the boughs. prince william says after the archbishop: i, william arthur philip louis, take thee, catherine elizabeth to my wedded wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse: for richer, for poorer; in sickness and in health; to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to god's holy law; and thereto i give thee my troth. >>darya: i said that she should've got a tattoo. this is the newest wedding, the wedding of the century. >>mark: pitchblende over to buckingham palace after the ceremony. no consent in westminster abbey. everybody waited an extra half an hour for the kids. here it is. -- the kiss. waiting and waiting for a practiced kiss. >>darya: let us go in for a second one. you cannot hear their scent. now reception is going on. we have the latest. the crowds are still gathered it side of buckingham palace. >>mark: back here in the united states, severe weather. 300 people have been killed. but the death toll across six states. you can see the path of destruction of one of the tornadoes in tuscan alabama. 210 people were killed out of 300, the president visiting tuscaloosa that where 36 people were killed, and that is where the university of alabama is, two students are dead. the president is offering his condolences. >> the loss of life is heartbreaking. especially in alabama. in a matter of hours these deadly tornadoes were some of the worst that we have seen in decades. they took mothers and fathers. sons and daughters. friends and the neighbors. even, entire committees. others were injured and some are still missing. there is damage to homes and businesses and it is nothing short of catastrophic. we cannot control when the board where a terrible storm comes from but we can't control how we respond to appear at want every american debt is affected by this disaster to know that the government will do everything we can to help you recover. we will stand with you as you rebuild. >>mark: presence in racal, signed a declaration to help residents clean up. after he surveys the damage he is headed to florida to watch the final launch of space shuttle endeavor lift off at 12:47 p.m. our time. the two week-long mission is the end of the road for endeavor. along with the president the shuttle commander's wife, market kelly's wife, arizona congressman giffords. she was shot in the head into some. -- tucson arizona. >>darya: we're looking at the weather. it is planned to be chilly to start but one by the weekend. >>louisa: you can see the gorgeous amount of sunshine. cool and clear conditions. we have some breezy wins as we head into the afternoon and a woman does we had to the weekend. the temperatures are expected to climb. here is your prime temperature of side. for these. still at thirties' getting into 47 san francisco . still chilly throughout the livermore valley and we are having a cooler start. for the most part it is similar them or were yesterday. all along the coast, 60 degrees. mid- 60's through livermore valley. we do have preconditions in the forecast for today. especially through the delta. when did i say is about 11 to the o'clock hour tonight. winds are peaking at 40 mi. per hour. mid-late afternoon hours are 1 to show where the peaking of the wind will be. here is your seven day around the bay. checking out, if you have plans endorsed the weather is calling to be playing its will to help you out. temperatures into the '80s for sunday. climbing up until wednesday it could be as high as 88 degrees. erica? >> thank you so much, we do not have any hot spots. right off the bat a great looking commute. you're not seeing any slowing down the west bound highway. we are falling as strong wind advisory. there is a small back up in san francisco at the meter and light hedges been activated. the strong wind advisory is in effect for your ride up the venetian bridge, number and and here at the san mateo bridge. traffic is then that here. no problems reported. as you make your way into hayward and the golden gate bridge is nice and light. no problems into the approach of san francisco . the 7 07 and we'll be right back with more news. >>darya: 7:10 a.m., you can still see crowds gathered outside buckingham palace. it earlier they got a glimpse of the royal couple with their first kiss as man, or, husband and wife. you might just be breaking now because surely it there are bleary eyed americans that to make up we before dawn to watch on tv as prince william and kate middleton tied the knot. >>mark: we are following the latest on stock markets. the chevron is saying the company is already at 36%. they're making more oil than they produce and the results are topping expectations. they had their best three months. since 2008. >>darya: 7:11 a.m. will be right back. here is a live look out side, and our refund finesse happening. as is waiving the want you to sue it shock you would see. we came up to a chilly, clear morning. you can see the temperature starting to rise as we get into the weekend. and i've never one to show you some highlights of the royal wedding. the wedding of this century. kate middleton and prince william are now husband and wife. care is video of them arriving at westminster abbey. the big surprise that nobody knew was what stressful she where? a six- foot veil? >>darya: no 8 8 ft. train. there's her sister, put up. holding the train. here is the prince arrived. we have to do it a shot of the dress. >>mark: there are a military uniforms. >>darya: they have arrived and the wedding had already happened. 1900 were there. sir elton john was there. other celebrities were there. we saw them and posh spice. there is the queen, she is wearing yellow. everybody wears hats. it is at thing, a british thing. a lot of people, hundreds of thousands of americans woke up at 2-3:00 a.m. to they could watch his life. we will have our coverage showing you the highlights and live the best of everything on kron4 news. >> my parents wore hats when they got very. >>darya: achieve board on the front, plastered to work for him? >>louisa: no, not one of those. here is a shot this morning of walnut creek. all lot of sunshine. the temperatures are cooler this morning and in the '30's in some spots. walnut creek is holding on to 39 degrees. working our way up to 65. back down to 43 decreased by 8:00. elsewhere, 43 degrees and the san francisco's pier 46 degrees in mountain view. 39 degrees in to the livermore valley. your afternoon highs are bringing an abundance of '50s. you will stay close to where we were yesterday. at around the day, mid-upper 70's. warming up to the upper 60s in the so it appeared we do, however have preconditions. breezy conditions. northwesterly winds are picking up and getting to 25 mi. per hour. we could see about 40 mi. per hour. peking are around the mid- late-afternoon hours. we could actually it keeps the conditions overnight into early-morning saturday as well. saturday as a lot of sunshine. by the afternoon be awarded to the 70's. by sunday we could reach peace. is not just a short-lived thing. record to continue to hold onto these until next week. watch the temperatures climbed until wednesday into that in one spot appeared low 80s around the bay and '70s for the coast carry all lot of sunshine ahead of us. time now 7:17 a.m.. >> thank you, no hot spots. no news is good news. we are following a another advisory. once you passed that mean and lights that are cycled on there is a strong lead advisor for your ride along the upper deck. medium-sized back up at the toll plaza. your drive times is typical. the strong wind of pfizer is are also and have checked for the dumbarton, benicia and here at the stanley bridge. at the golden gate bridge southbound, 101 is flowing freely. the james lick is quiet where it meets the inbound central. the drug time of 60 minutes from the camera shot. >>darya: thank-you eric appeared 7:18 a.m.. in the past few months a fire has broken out in downtown san jose. the fire started at 3 in the morning. they headed out quickly and they are now looking into the cause. >> it could be suspicious. it could beat on known. -- and knowing. they had restored power among the the to the structure so are arson is quick to go from there. we were do not know if there were conducting business. date state that the house was vacant and nobody was living, coming or going on a daily basis. >>darya: nobody was hurt. the place was destroyed. >>mark: the stories that we're following it right now, a contractor was killed by an afghan pilot on wednesday and he was less generous a resident. 55 year-old james mclaughlin worked for a private contractor and company. he was training. he was at a meeting when there was an argument and an afghan pilots opened fire. he had retired as a colonel in 2007 and was training pilots since 12008. a live look here from the bay bridge toll plaza with a back up on the bridge. >> p. might be breaking up saying " where is the heat? " we are warned, but it is corn to take it that day to get into gear. it is the weekend, tomorrow and sunday were week i want to touch the 80s and then ride into next week we could, could get close to 90. look at wednesday. 88 degrees. >>mark: more violence and libya. the rebels were pushed back over the tunisian border. the tahitian military taste the rebels back into libya. -- or chased the dog rebels back into libya.taste. to date demonstrators are planning to commemorate the slaying of 112 democracy protesters that had been killed. the fight and your board has claimed more than 150 lives since march. >>darya: here is a live look at buckingham palace. there are still thousands of people lining the streets. earlier today it was jam packed with no elbow room as they watched the royal couple make their procession into the palace after the wedding. they got into the carriage that would take them on to the palace. they got married at westminster abbey. they rode through the streets as husband and wife. prince william and kate middleton are now born to a large reception. there are 150 people there for the lunch reception today. they have a big party tonight. her hair is already let down but they can let down her hair tonight. their only 300 very close family and friends. it is planned to be held tonight. >> besides what the ec back room and his wife, pasha. elton john is there as well. >>darya: did i miss the memo? does anybody know of out wearing a hat on your forehead ride out the front? if he were to wear and had? everybody, for sarah ferguson's kids, lady got that style. and then i am surprised and elton john was not wearing a hat. >>darya: we are born to be talking about this all morning. all lot of people, maybe even you saw the slide. it was beamed out on tv to millions of people around the world. >>mark: another story we're following is a live look from tuscaloosa alabama. president barack obama is expected to lend any minute. the death toll is now at 300. we will bring you the latest developments of of >>louisa: this morning. as we go to break the kron4 news will continue. here's a live look at the golden gate bridge. hamilton lot of a live look >>pam: all lot is at around the world were trained on london. it is for the royal wedding of prince william and catherine milton. they're now known as the duke and duchess of cambridge. here is the video from earlier this morning. william linder over and told the pride that she looked beautiful from the altar. let us listen to the exchange of vows. prince william says after the archbishop: i, william arthur philip louis, take thee, catherine elizabeth to my wedded wife, to have and to hold from this day health; to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to god's holy law; and thereto i give thee my troth. catherine says after the archbishop: i, catherine elizabeth, take thee, william arthur philip louis, to my wedded husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse: for richer, for poorer; in sickness and in health; to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to god's holy law; and thereto i give thee my troth. arch bishop>> bless, o lord, this ring, and grant that he who gives it and she who shall wear it may remain faithful to each other, and abide in thy peace and favour, and live together in love until their lives' end. through jesus christ our lord. amen. >>darya: with the blast sent william and catherine are husband and wife. there are an estimated 1 million people that court outside gathered. they cannot see anything that they did have about cons set up. they come to the noise it so that they were able to hear. there were those that were able to gather on the and and the very first kiss. the second kiss. the gave too short cases. it was a good idea. there are moderate couple. they thought what the heck. it is cute. the advantage and modern-day planes that flew over as well. today there is lunch and that is happening today. tonight i big party is disco's style. connie west was at the wedding is had enough he will be performing perhaps. they do not wear the dispirited is a big secret. alton john arrived with his longtime partner. we also sought-spiced. victoria. we still call her posh spice. choose what they did that come.madonna was not invited. te average was there. again, there is a woman without on the front of her head. it is the thing to do this spring. your hat person this is how you should wear. if you want to see the whole thing over again or if you missed it because it was 2-3 in the morning you can go to our web site. www.kron4.com. we all of the wedding footage. the amount we are following the latest with present back up,. he is about to visit those colors at alabama.--tuscae was over 300 deaths reported. in tuscaloosa crews are still going through the rubble looking for possible victims or survivors. we will know the latest of the devastation in alabama. in the meantime we're watching what's there, back here in the bay area. it is conducted on the we can forecast the police said. alabama is a lot of blue sky. a discount to be a gorgeous day for me. starting off with cold temperatures. we do not have a lot of clout of cover trapping in the heat. pepper trees down into the '30's and a few hours ago appeared we do have a wind advisory in effect for the delta. people get to the details and a minute. we have a nice warm up to look for 2 for the weekend. current temperatures are widespread 40's. 46 degrees in san francisco. upper '40's into mountain view. 44 in san jose. for afternoon highs are bringing us up into the 60s. getting close to 70's. concord is about to 69 degrees. 67 degrees in mountain view, san jose, one adviser in effect in this highlighted area. expect the winds to pick up to 25 m.p.h. at moving out of the northwest protest could keep it at about 40. iroquoian to see the wind really peeking around at mid-late afternoon. it looks of it is clear to stay pretty gray overnight into tomorrow morning as well. or we can go is bringing us a much sunshine. temperatures are warm it up into the upper 70's, 80's, by a the wednesday to be 88. time now 734, let us check in with their cat. >> thank you so much, fortunately we do not have any hot spots. despite a fair share of accidents on the roadway portion like, none of them are producing any slowdowns, traffic is moving well and the same goes for the west bound 580. to get you out of the north bridge check checking at the approach to the bridge toll plaza. traffic has slowed down despite no accidents. we do have a strong and the advisory. this issue for this particular bridge. the same goes for the dumbarton and the san mateo bridge where traffic is moving freely as you make your way to foster city. moving with no weight back at the poll plaza. your ride out of the north bay as quiet as you make your way down into the golden gate bridge. traffic has been nicely, better conditions and a scene in the last hour appeared the six and it looks good. now tracking it to the house by yet. clear conditions in to walnut creek. as you move on to the san ramon valley. daria? >>darya: de 7:35 a.m. and california democrats are trying to delay the state budget battle. they're trying to extend higher vehicle fees. they're pushing a bill that will have the the and feet renewal notices it delayed by at least one month. the driver registrations are due july 1st. they are expecting to receive at half percent reduction after the current tax hike. >>mark: part voters are voting off a late night service, the last train will leave san francisco around 12:30 p.m.. the service extends an hour and it illustrates william at 1:30 a.m.. the change will mean that of one hour until late in the start of service on saturday morning by one hour instead of train starting at 6 and it will start its 7:00 a.m.. stanford university is inviting rotc it back on campus. they were banned from the school. the faculty said that they approved this end up about yesterday. the military was excluding transgendered and disabled people from joining. since then and one that wanted to join the military had to take separate class is at different schools. will be back with more and coverage of the royal wedding which may have happened while you're sleeping. 2 billion people watch it on tv. here is a live shot of said a buckingham palace. the new couple prince william and kate milton just left. bay are surely on the way to the luncheon. the big disco party is to the lake and then it is on to the honeymoon. nobody knows where it is. we will be right back. >>darya: all my gosh you just mr. it. the royal couple is driving through the street. they were waving and it had a jackie o. feel. or the graduate, from the movies, they were young and find and hit. very on rhyolite. very cute. they went a short distance. they just wrote down the street and mile and people were cheering. it was really cute, it was really nice. >>mark: our coverage started at 4:00 a.m.. the parties this morning have this to say about the event. >> there is so much that stuff in the world that is nice to sit and watch something that is uplifting and fun. you can feel part of. to switch misery up there that it is nice to watch something that people will get into. and they did. >>mark: 2 million people watched it worldwide. >>darya: can we roll the video? >>mark: this is the video they're looking for. >>pam: this is where they cut out, out of the case. this is the first kiss. they pulled a fast one because they need to cases. it does not protocol. they do, seem so relaxed and they do. they seem happy and relaxed. it is a wedding day which is the odd because it is a national holiday for now and forever. this day when prince william married cake middleton. will be right back. if and then not welcome back with a live look at it from tuscaloosa alabama. the president just arrived surveying the damage. the death toll in six states stands of 300. 200 are dead in alabama. the search and rescue operation continues. >>darya: the big story, the royal wedding. prince william and catherine middleton are now due and duchess of england. here is their first kiss as newlyweds. you cannot expect, these are young people, says a new day but they will be different. here they are writing and a convertible. here's the traditional royal flyover. the advantage of modern day crowns to flyovers and we saw them drive what looks like from one gate to another, maybe a mile. they have and luncheon now. >>mark: here is the view of the bride walking down the aisle with her father. her something borrowed was a tiara from the queen. her dress was kept secret until today. it would've been the secret of the day. >>darya: designed by sir at. they did not take any designers out side of england. the hair and dress will be copied it for wedding season. here is prince william walking with his brother prince harry. they have military attire. prince philip as the queen's husband in military garb as well. we saw the case over at buckingham palace because you cannot case in westminster abbey. >>darya: they put the ring on and instead of saying i do they said i will. that was their thing. by the way it william beaumont be wearing his wedding ring. the only exchange one. these two daughters are the daughters of sarah ferguson who was not on that invited list. these are crazy hats. they're very it lady back up. everybody is wearing them on the front of their heads. even on the left, they're all wearing them on the front. posh spice hatters on the front as well. it is all about that. sarah ferguson was not there but i saw that. what is his name? prince andrew. he was there. >>mark: i have the view of them leaving the palace just moments ago. the video of them driving off. there they are. the aston martin valente. no cans on the back. >>darya: oh wait, what is that on the back, oh, boleyn's. -- balance.alloons. ad that the stock market closed. >>darya: that with their elders. it was a nice day, >>louisa: it was supposed to rain. it was a big thing that they could drive around in a convertible. that is something for england. and for us, we will stay dry. not just for today but for a good long stretch. and the the umbrellas away. the raincoats way. pollute the shades, the shorts. the t- shirts. we're looking in nice weather ahead of us. we star was and cool temperatures. we're in the '40's currently in san francisco. 46 degrees. for one of to 58 with high temperature of 61. down to 50 at the o'clock hour. widespread 40's, 46 and san francisco appeared a little bit cooler up and send a file. 43 degrees in mountain view. down into san jose. upper 60s for santa rosa pirie 56 degrees to novado. 61 degrees in downtown san francisco. temperatures are stepping into the mid to upper 60s. there on tuesday into the upper 60s down into said. we also are born to be watching for some fairly pestilence today. especially through the delta. that is when the advisers have been issued from 11:00 this morning to o'clock tonight. the northwesterly winds are getting to about 20 mi. per hour and a we could see that as peak at 40. the winds are starting to pick up around mid-late afternoon. that is one peak make asphalt and. sunshine could keep the wind around. the upper 80s into next week. erica? >> currently i do not have any hot spots. i have some better news. no longer active at our bay bridges which makes me believe the strong wind of pfizer's have been cancelled. beacon see the end of the back up to the parking lot. then the nine lines are active and we're seeing that be some drive time of only 12 minutes from the foot of that means towards fremont street. the san mateo bridge also looks good, no problem to contend with. traffic is moving epimedium club. no snake's head of foster city. the golden gate bridge softbound traffic is moving freely. 24 minutes right now. gary? >>darya: think he saw much. the time now 751. new details, but philip and nancy credo have pleaded guilty. they kidnapped a seat to guard. they kept her in a hidden compound and the backyard in and taught for 18 years. philip please see here pleaded guilty to kidnapping of 13 counts of sexual assault. if his plan to be sentenced on june 2nd. a maximum of life in prison, 431 years to life. here is nancy, she pleaded guilty. one count of rape in force. she will also be sentenced on june 22nd to 36 years in prison. the lawyer for nancy riva said that the guilty plea is the best they could do. emma and her view now she has made her peace with god and wants to get on with life, what is left with it. obviously do not want to plead your client guilty to a life sentence but that is the best i could get to that is what she is willing to do. she would have been willing to do anything to avoid the kids having to come to trial. >>darya: here's the statement from j.c.. " i am relieved that philip and nancy reno have finally acknowledge their guilt and confessed to their crimes against me and my family " and >> of live look up from tuscaloosa alabama. one of the hardest-hit cities, over 300 dead. it is the home to the university of alabama. two students were killed. the death toll is now over 300 people and it went up 237 tornadoes that raged across the south on thursday morning. the governor of alabama has already declared a state of emergency as the search and rescue operations continue this morning. 210 of them are in alabama. the president after being here this morning is quintuplicate canaveral to see the launch of the space shuttle endeavor. we will monitor the damage this morning. >>darya: a live look out side of buckingham palace. people are starting to leave now as beat new couple leaves the house to go to the luncheon. we will be back with more in just a couple of minutes. and that there is president barack obama on the tarmac now. his survey the damage. search efforts are still ongoing. they're looking for victims. it will bring us details after the break. the panel will come back to kron4 news. we're starting off with temperatures into the '30's. you're 21 and up nicely. still seeing embraced it around into the afternoon. we have of what advisor in effect. will check about that industry and the tariff will want this to happen to weekend. your temperatures into the 40's. clinton never knew about 47 same in redwood city. by the afternoon our highest will be 68, low 60s in downtown centers is to appear temperatures run their stint in mid-upper 60s. livermore valley as they round 65. when devised in effect for the delta. 11:00 until the o'clock hour. thus could spike to 40 mi. per hour keeping the 80s are around. low 80s around a bit here 70's radicals. then and no hot spots of the reader. working is getting bigger matter but bit.--better . we're giving you a pretty good dry time for this time of the art. as 11 to 10 minutes to the foot of the maze. most banks, as you make your way, looks good. traffic on the left-hand side as a lot of space and the golden gate set the and it is flowing freely across the span. a just check the red sentence for rape. great conditions.--no hot spots. the l wedding of this century. prince william and catherine middleton got married into the wee hours, our time this morning. true they are right after they tied the knot. there were more than 1 million people packing the streets of london to catch a glimpse of the royal couple. an estimated 2 billion people were watching from around the world on tv. here's quinellas and it the second. she's of criminals to her right. all of the royal family was there. they're watching these two young people get married. 28 and 29 year-old that matter college. wow, eight years they have been together. it is a long time that they waited. they know each other very well at this point. >>mark: william and catherine i have led duke and duchess william is second in line to the throne. the dress was kept a secret until today. >>darya: can listen to the bells? no, action all of they did was put in one run on because he is not wearing a ring. no cuts, they had to wait until later when they were on the balcony of buckingham palace. we have video of that at the air force with the dramatic flyover. did mintage crosses was modern-day and they flew over buckingham palace and then william and kate for and on the balcony. there were supposed to be calling her catherine now that's what she wants. there were waving at everybody and then they gave them kisses. there was the plumage, is a good word be his all lot of the past look like they were alive. look at the spread on the side of the year. look another one on the side. apparently it is supposed to be read on the head. forget the head. you wear on the side door on the front. plastered your forehead. the my gravity defined. >> this was really, the fund was watching the outfits and the hats. a lot of others, all lot of plays. a lot of eight clusters. look at the bright green get out. nice. there was a lot of highlights, down-to-earth, this happen with in the last half-hour. and then this is leaving buckingham palace. the short drive with poland'--balanced.loons. the neh to net and great art with sunglasses. and then not the whether helloed for convertible ride. a million people gathered around buckingham palace in westminster and 2 billion people are estimated to watch this around the world. the other stories we're following right now, the latest in the south and the severe storm that killed hundreds of people. the death toll is not to 300. killed across six states. the storm that hit the night were 210 of the dead are and all of them all on. possibly is the and other areas are virtually destroyed. will be visiting some of the hardest-hit areas. 36 people were killed in tuscaloosa alabama. it is home to the university of alabama. two students were killed as well. the president is offering his condolences. >> >> president barack obama:the loss of life has been heartbreaking, especially in alabama. in a matter of hours, these deadly tornadoes, some of the worst that we've seen in decades, took mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, friends and neighbors, even entire communities. others are injured and some are still missing, and in many places the damage to homes and businesses is nothing short of catastrophic. we can't control when or where a terrible storm may strike, but we can control how we respond to it. and i want every american who has been affected by this disaster to know that the federal government will do everything we can to help you recover. and we will stand with you as you rebuild. >>mark: present back of, signed ed declaration to help residents, we're just getting word that one of the tornadoes that hit mississippi was and l 5. the for some of hadn't 50 years. the fall launch of the space shuttle endeavor it will be launched at 1247 our time. it will be the end of the road for endeavor. the president will be your watching. nearly four months after giffords was shot in the head in tucson all. this will be the second to last space flight for the nasa program. >>darya: we will be back. here is a live look out side in san francisco at pier 35. this is a monster cruiser. is the disney cruise ship wonder. it is docked right there. folks may be on vacation and taking a little stop in san francisco having a good time. what a nice weekend. we're looking at these warm temperatures. they're terrific. will be back with more interested couple of minutes. >>darya: 8:10 a.m.. for the second time a fire breaks out on the can of this club. it started at 3 in the morning. the firefighters had a out quickly. it destroyed the club. there investigating the cause. but it could be suspicious. could be unknown cause. according to the residence next door it they have restored part of a month ago to the structure. arson is on the scene doing an investigation. lot to go from there. right now is under investigation. >> birthday conducting business? am i not that we know of. the residents at the us was vacant and there was nobody living there. nobody coming and going on a daily basis. >>mark: a private contractor was killed with eight u.s. troops at afghan pilots. he was to santa rosa residents. james mclaughlin work for private contracting company. he was in the meeting and and a conference room at the airport there was an argument. the afghan pilots opened fire. heat had retired as an army colonel and was training pilots. he just left for afghanistan on april 15th. we will be right back as kron4 news continues. gary will be coming up right after the break. to the 814 and let us talk >> what time did he start? >>darya: are golden at 6:00 a.m.. did you see the highlights? >> reporter: i got into it. >>darya: that to me was the best thing. it looked like the kennedys to meet a graduate it and they were cool and they were young and it was fun. the rest was stuffy. this was the story of the day. so cute. >> reporter: if i hear it one more time " oh the common people " and then you drive a high and die.--hyundia.t gives people a choice, good. they seem like nice people. >>darya: they do. i have david beck and. we talked about how he was here with posh. if you look at all of the highlights what you are supposed to do is wear that tape to your forehead. they're not for it but had there for the forehead. everybody, and had it plastered like this to their gear. will more video. elton john was not wearing a hat. these are sarah ferguson scrolls. look at the hats. >> reporter: yes, everything is on the front. >>darya: their mom was not allowed. she was an ex. lady got out wears crazy hats and she wears them like that too. ours are more risky but that half's is the british did. look at the mall. you just put them right there. put them right on >>mark: that is the only and that she did not steal from the madonna. >>darya: we have all and john and connie less. i did not see him. here is i had with others. will staffers liberties? 05 richie. you know he was there without madonna. hello deep on the head. >> reporter: all kidding aside, they seem like nice kids. >>darya: obviously it not worth getting up at 2:00 a.m.. >> reporter: well i got up late because i was up late watching the draft. i would not have a party for it. don't invite people. >>darya: was and i big deal to pick a quarterback? they needed one but they did not pick one? >> reporter: i'm very careful about this stuff because these guys spend months, 24 hours a day studying this stuff and then those of us on our couches ask all of the time or did he come from? the thing that you have to say is apparently they did not think any of the quarterbacks available were worth a no. 1 pick. that means that none of them are going to start next year. beef >>darya: and the other highlights expected? >> reporter: just on looks, he is a star. he has magnetism. his walk across the stage now. in the you would be starting to. it was okay yesterday. the one thing is that i thought) to be let go watered-down product. the enthusiasm was there for the fans. those participating. this was business as usual. >>darya: is back to business today. with the lot that nothing happened today. they're supposed to get to businesses. players are supposed to be a training. working out. it is supposed to happen. >>darya: is from my opinion if you know there is no agreement they really do not want to there. the people are signing a check if they're not happy that is it. is one to beat very hard to have a harmonious attitude if you can because the owners really want to them to continue until they get an agreement. >>darya: i know what you mean. since we're talking with the draft of but the drafting of this 18 month old boy appeared to be see this? he is on youtube. what tests guilty as. to this team gets a hold of this video because it does little sensation. he just keeps keeping the ball. so what kind of team is this from? is dutch. the dutch soccer team signed him to a mock tenure. >> that is really cute. held to see? >> he is 18 months old. they brought a man and had him sign a 10 month contract to the team. and he is really good. he does not miss. this is the start of something. the member time was with his little clout? this kid is cool. >> there is one after the other. (laughter) i could watch this al day. forget the royal wedding. i could watch this all day. that is our funding to and with. an appeal of a great weekend. >> reporter: cockies tonight. >>darya: oh my gosh, tonight and sunday. >> reporter: the most storied american franchise, the detroit red wings. hockey is front and center for a while. >>darya: and that he. enjoy it. his plan to be 80 tonight. >> reporter: i'm going to stay and watch the wedding. >>darya: have a good one. you'll see the the 20 1:00 a.m.. alabama welcome back to kron4 news. a lot of sunshine, could get to breezy. yet 80s in the forecast and temperatures keep climbing into next week. of a full load coming out. >> here is a live look at traffic. pretty laid out there. bay area why it we will check on your friday commute straight ahead. and play >>mark: more rival with libya. a witness as gaddafi fiers case the rebels across the border and tell it to me shut military push and crossed the frontier. they're saying they want immediate measures to halt such violations of to the territory. the government crackdown on an opposition in syria. it is in coming into the country. more demonstrations against the presence regime. they're planning and commemorating the slangs from one week ago, 112th protesters killed and one day. revolts and other arab countries have claimed more than 150 lives since mid march. >>darya: thousands gathered in london with feeling parties around the world. including the bay area as they watched the royal get married. it was the royal wedding of the century. prince william and catherine middleton. here is what the royal watchers had to say. >> they are just figureheads but it is the fact that there's so much that stuff in the world that did business to watch out lifting and fun. you feel part of it. too much misery is i like to watch something people can get into. and they did. >>darya: 2 million people watched the ceremony around the world. >>mark: we will be back in two minutes. we continue until 11:00 a.m.. light traffic on the 680. + + ♪ [ female announcer ] the counter. in most homes, it gets all the action. bring it. getting it clean again is easy with bounty. in this lab test, one sheet of bounty leaves this surface cleaner than 3 sheets of the bargain brand. ♪ why use more when you can use less? ♪ super durable, super absorbent, super clean. bounty. the one-sheet clean picker-upper. >> mark: mile combat alive look from a launch pad in cape canaveral. endeavor blasted off at 12:47 p.m. our time. mark kelly has been of gabrielle gifford at controls today. this is the second to last launch ever. >> darya: they had the hill there. they got through that and everything is ok. >> louisa: a good chance of them taking off. we are seeing a much different picture here. blue skies but because of that inmate for cooler temperatures overnight. temperatures dropping down into the 30's, 40's starting to warm up slowly this morning. this afternoon breezy through the delta, and then a nice warm up bin to the weekend, did your shorts and sunglasses out. current temperatures in the '40's for the most part, 47 at malcolm do, by the afternooyour afternoon hn rosa, 70 novato, hanging on to the '50s along the coast half moon bay 58, 67 san jose. wind advisory in effect until 8:00 p.m. tonight. northwest winds could pick up to 25 mi. an hour dusting up to 40. --dustigustind to upper 80s monday through thursday, possibly creating up to the '70s by the bay. >> erica: no hot spots to tell you about in a traffic center. i have been checking logs we have accidents out there but none of them causing any delays for your ride around the bay area. this is the best we have seen the bay bridge look over the past few hours. the meter lights are active but you conceive as shallow wading in some lanes, traffic is actually at top speed is coming down the shore freeway peere. the same story at the san mateo bridge, it looks could moving at a medium clip heavier than 10 minutes ago but overall a good drive time of 15 minutes between 88101. we have been delayed free throughout marin county checking the sensors and we see top speeds clean and green. picking up one last camera 101 in san jose, this is probably some of the slower traffic throughout the bay area. it can see a bunching up towards trembled accrues to exit. not tracking and the delays for 2 80 or highway 17. >> mark: more on the of royal wedding. william second in line to the throne after his father. he wore his military uniform. kate wearing l.a. sense that in dress was designed by sarah burton at alexander mcqueen. police shot and killed today. this something borrow was the .prince william says after the archbishop: i, william arthur philip louis, take thee, catherine elizabeth to my wedded wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse: for richer, for poorer; in sickness and in health; to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to god's holy law; and thereto i give thee my troth. >>catherine says after the archbishop: i, catherine elizabeth, take thee, william arthur philip louis, to my wedded husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse: for richer, for poorer; in sickness and in health; to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to god's holy law; and thereto i give thee my troth. >> mark: from west minister of be to buckingham palace where the couple kissed. they couldn't thyssen church. our royal flyover is well. 1 million people standing outside watching. we will show you highlights throughout the day. >> darya: president barack obama in alabama today seeing the damage from those deadly tornadoes that hit on wednesday. this is video from this morning out of forest dale. the president will meet with families that work affected by this disaster and with alabama's governor. the storms killed nearly 300 people in all. the storms and tornadoes hit six states. in tuscaloosa they are going through the rubble looking for more possible victims or survivors. >> mark: out of san jose for the second time in three months of cannabis club goes up in flames. it happened at 3:00 a.m. will tran stresses the damage. >> will: even before they can determine the cause of the last fire back in january 12th. once again fire fighters were back to this house. >> arson investigators are investigating they will have to go from there. >> will: the business at not reopen since of fire three months ago when nobody was at the place when they arrived. it doesn't cure urban appeal was trying to get back on its feet before the fire. the fact that happened again the second time and say to-three months of does it strike you as odd? >> he could be suspicious, it could be a noble cause right now they did have power back according to the residence next door. maybe about a month ago to that structure. >> will: the latest fire caused the family next door to be displaced after the fire damage their roof and act. the fire department says they are staying with family members. will tran kron 4 news. >> darya: we will be back with more and couples minutes. a live look at the disney cruise witches stockton's in francisco right now, they will wake up and step off and we will have tourists out there today. they will enjoy the day, warm temperatures and stored there sticking around too. we will be right back. 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[ male announcer ] from pre-approval to closing, citi is with you every step of the way. what's your story? citi can help you write it. >> louisa: 8:45 a.m. we are off to a cool start but we are warming up. we are in the '50s for walnut creek at this hour are lots of sunshine as you can see. about 65 degrees by noontime, your highs today closing in on 70. elsewhere finally starting to get into the 50s. san rafael, redwood city, have monday warming up to 50 still 44 in the livermore valley. your afternoon highs upper 60s for the north bay, napa valley, 62 richmond, was 61 in san francisco in the east bay mid to upper 60s 67 down and to mountain view, san jose wind advisory has been issued for the delta from 11 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. the winds are getting stronger up to 25 mi. an hour, gusting up to 40 mi. an hour. they will keep many too late afternoon hours. look at this 7 day. temperatures warm enough to the '80s, then continuing to climb. by wednesday next week we could be closing in on 90 degrees and '80s around the bay. get those sunglasses and shorts out. >> erica: it is a perfect time to leave the post no hot spots in the traffic center. this is the best we have seen the bay bridge all morning long, nice and easy ride. the meter lights are on but traffic moves well across the upper deck. san mateo bridge traffic on the right-hand side of your screen has been and and in free throw the morning. southbound 1 01 heavier than we were tracking earlier this morning but overall the conditions. that is consistent for your entire ride out of marin county along southbound 1 01. >> darya: 8:47 a.m. new details felon and nancy reno have pleaded guiltphilip and nancy gd guilty to kidnapping he will be sentenced to a maximum of 431 years to life in prison. his wife nancy who you see here pleading guilty to kidnapping one count of rape by force and several enhancements she will be sentenced to 36 years to life in prison. the lawyer spoke about the guilty plea. >> she had a serious wrong committed. and her new now she has made peace with god she wants to get on with life of what's left of it. it is the best i can get. you don't like to plead them guilty to a life sentence but that is the best i could get so that's what she is willing to do. she would of been willing probably to do anything to avoid actually having the kids come to trial. >> darya: the statement that j.c. tjaycee dugard released. "m relieved that phillip and nancy garrido have finally acknowledged their guilt and confessed to their crimes against me and my family," >> mark: 48 people were injured in this muni crash, the report blames both the driver and muni for failing to enforce safety rules. since the accident they have installed this line management center. it tracks everything from the doors open and to lend a switch from automatic to manual. they also monitor surveillance cameras, there are more safety inspectors keeping watch on tracks. >> darya: oakland city attorney has excepted the job of city manager in lme debt. indents months of speculation were so has been enacted heads against gain in junctions. --gamng---a former doctor has been charged with 19 counts of illegal acts with eight patients between 2006 and 2011. he pleaded not guilty, here is yesterday at his arraignment. one person claimed he was touched inappropriately during a medical exam his attorney plans to make a motion to dismiss the charges. >> mark: 4 royal wedding, everyone in to see the test.kist one but two. this is what some people said. >> i wish i was up there and giving our kids myself. >> will: a good choice for william? >> oh yes d.c. the sister of good-looking lady to. >> mark: 2 billion people watch the ceremony worldwide. >> darya: 8:51 a.m. we will be back with more in just a moment. congratulations to joanne who is attending tonight's game at h-p per billion courtesy of kron 4. is not too late to win tickets we are giving away a pair of tickets to sunday's game game 2. we will be right back. >> darya: 8:55 a.m. they are now bride and groom, they tied the knot this morning now husband and wife. becky anderson is in london where she ran into interesting characters. >> reporter: let me introduce you to some friends. all the way from north london. has it been a good day? >> fantastic, fabulous, marvelous. >> reporter: what about the kids? >> we were looking for somebody to test.kiss. >> reporter: your hat looks tremendous. i've never seen a fascinator like this. whoever i got here? another london. >> it was marvelous, we came straight up here and we had some marvelous times, we've met people from south africa, australia, other parts of england. it's been a marvelous day. >> i'm from london i came as 7:00 a.m. this morning it was fantastic. it was well worth the day. thank goodness the weather was dry. >> reporter: just behind you. >> we are from london! >> reporter: did you enjoy yourself? >> yes, yes! >> reporter: i think it is the best day i have ever had in london. you've never seen crowds like this in decades. it's been thrilling. >> darya: are real party and parade. >> mark: everybody was talking about the high costs, some bizarre fashion choices, as we go to break we will show you some highlights. >> mark: 9:00 a.m. on this royal wedding day, our coverage began at 2:00 a.m. prince william is married to catherine middleton, highlights coming up. >> darya: we want to be right here and see what's big on the weekend. it will be so nice out. >> louisa: dry in england, a dry here in california. lots of sunshine is the difference. cool this morning with temperatures in the 30's in some spots, towards the afternoon pleasant. it will be breezy in the afternoon expansion in the delta. you can see the wind blowing around just a bin at this hour. we have a warm-up into the weekend is darya mentioned. at the shades and you will need them. we will see those temperatures rise next week as well. right now into the fifties 50 happen bay, redwood city, a bellevue, san jose, 44 through the livermore valley. your afternoon highs present '60s, '60s and rosa, 66 novato 61 in downtown san francisco. in the south bay mid to upper 60s 65 for redwood city, half moon bay 58 degrees, we have a wind advisory in effect for the delta from 11 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. the winds picking up to 25 calls an hour gusts up to 40 mi. an hour. it could stay breezy overnight tonight early tomorrow morning as well. lots of sunshine for your weekend. those temperatures by the end of the weekend will be in the '80s. by wednesday closing in on 90. >> erica: i'm currently not tracking and hot spots for your bay area ride, your commute is looking good on this friday morning, you can see that indicated that the approach to the bay bridge toll plaza, a small way that the pay gates drive time of about 11 minutes towards fremont street san francisco, friday light at the san mateo bridge, conditions look good, lots of space between cars free trip into foster city. at of the north bay someone all one it is certainly cleared up from what we were tracking 10 minutes and go easy conditions for your trip out of marin county. we have encountered some slow traffic around the bay area along the shore freeway westbound 84 your ride out of san pablo into richmond. we had a couple of earlier accidents reported none of them blocking lanes, i guess enough of a visual hazard because slowing go conditions. as for public transit nothing to worry about their everything running on time. >> mark: to the royal wedding, prince william and kathryn video of them driving away after the wedding. the blue of aston martin. estimated 2 billion people watched this wedding around the globe. it was a royal fairy tale. >> reporter: the now duke and duchess of cambridge the first public kiss as man and wife. it was the climax of a day filled with pomp and pageantry. not only for the couple and their guests but for the throngs of people lined the streets hoping to get a glimpse of a historic celebration. it 3:00 p.m. london time guests wearing morning suits and fancy hats began arriving at west mr. abbey. 11:00 a.m..minister abbey. and e celebrities, the mother and father of the bride, the duke of edinburgh and the queen. finally the moment everybody was waiting for, the bride accompanied by her father stepping out of the hotel where she spent her last night as a single woman dressed in a gallup that had been kept a mystery. the designer sarah burton. after the four minute walk down the aisle her fairytale ceremony. >> i pronounced day the man and wife together. >> reporter: marking the end of an eight year courtship. every second of the day walked by an audience of billions broadcast live on television, and the internet. >> mark: if you would like to see the ceremony we posted it on our web site code www.kron4.com. >> darya: another big story we're following is a severe weather hitting the south. 300 people have been killed across six states the storms tornadoes, wind and rain 210 of them were killed in alabama. the president is in alabama where 36 people were killed including to university of alabama students. the president offered his condolences. > president barack obama:the loss of life has been heartbreaking, especially in alabama. in a matter of hours, these deadly tornadoes, some of the worst that we've seen in decades, took mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, friends and neighbors, even entire communities. others are injured and some are still missing, and in many places the damage to homes and businesses is nothing short of catastrophic. we can't control when or where a terrible storm may strike, but we can control how we respond to it. and i want every american who has been affected by this disaster to know that the federal government will do everything we can to help you recover. and we will stand with you as you rebuild. >> darya: president barack obama sign it disaster declaration to help residents clean up. >> mark: after the president's surveys the damage he will fly to florida to watch a final launch of endeavor, set for 12:47 p.m. mark kelly will have his wife gabrielle gifford will watch the launch four months after she was shot and had been taught to sell.in the l be right back as the news continues. --tucson-- hey marcel, watch this! hey marcel, watch this! 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in san francisco deceidisney cruise sh. >> darya: a married couple this morning, kate middleton mary and her prince. they watch her walk down the aisle, at west minister abbey early this morning with her father walking her down. the swap took four minutes. she was stunning annette sign and lace gown, she wore a terah that was borrowed from queen elizabeth the second period and then the prince and dirt, prince william looking great, in hisecond. theg ring they both agreed to have picked out. the engagement ring was princess diana's. >> mark: this is video of the royal family are riveting.arrivs beatrice arriving, and prince charles are arriving with camilla. and of course queen elizabeth the second are arriving as well. he is almost 90 years old. >> darya: she looks good. i guess the royal life is good. don't forget the supporters 1 million people the figure were outside of westminster abbey and along the streets. they closed all the streets because there were block parties. inside there were 1900 guests, 2 billion people bore watching around the world. >> the dress was beautiful all about the dress. >> wonderful, amazing morning, beautiful weather, the sun came out at the most important moment. >> it was great, pat day brought his your friend is well. >> mark: you can relive the better moments posted the whole ceremony on our web site. >> darya: they talked about the sun coming out at the right blend. we will get this done this weekend. >> louisa: we have no rain, they have no rain, however we will be breezy today, really good- looking weather ahead of us towards the weekend. san jose the wind is picking up 52 in said housing, 65 by noontime, 67 for your highs today. those winds actually sustained winds starting to pick up in san jose you saw those camera shake 14 mi. an hour right now. redwood city ended oakland 14 mi. an hour, fairfield 20 mi. an hour, the dalton we are concerned about today a wind advisory until about 8:00 p.m. wind is getting up to 25 mi. an hour with gusts of up to 40 mi. an hour. we are slowly warming it up. 51 in san rosa, 53 malamute your afternoon brings us '60s. 70 through vallejo, east bay temperatures mid to upper 60s. you're 7 day around the bay shows a warm-up, it highlights the '80s by the end of the weekend continuing to rise by wednesday of next week warming up to close to 90. >> erica: no major hot spots bay area wide, we do have an accident that could turn into a problem and the southbound direction of 280. getting you out the door with a bridge check the bay bridge toll plaza pretty light out there almost empty. fast track moving well in to san francisco. for those of you headed to the san mateo bridge nice, light, easy ride. no problems at the golden gate bridge southbound 1 01 as you make your way out of marin county. over to our traffic maps 280 rate at westborough boulevard we have a to a car accident chp is on the scene. it isn't blocking traffic lanes but you can see the red and yellow building on your screen. this back up making its way past highway one. >> darya: 9:20 a.m. senatchevron is reporting increase in profits. the company received higher prices for the oil produced and made more money from refining oil. the results topping expectations. it is the best three months since 2008. six point to $1 billion in the first three months of the year. >> mark: that is 69 million today. we will be back as the news continues. a live look at san francisco. don't forget kron4 has exclusive coverage of the 100 zazzle, bay to breakers on kron4 that will be sunday, may 15th, beginning at 8:00 a.m. we have cameras all along the course and we will replay the event sunday night at 8:00 p.m. >> mark: we are just getting word of the launch has been scrubbed. it was supposed to blast off three hours from now but there is a technical problem with heaters on board. because of that 48 hour delay for the launch. the second to last launch ever. president barack obama was headed there this morning. a change of plans for the president now. gabrielle the gifford is there mark kelly her husband is commanding this mission. a private contractor that was killed along with a truce by an afghan pilot wednesday was a san rosa resident. james mclaughlin jr. worked for a private company training pilots, he was in a meeting in the board room when there was an argument, the afghan pilots opened fire. he retired in 2007 has working train pilots. >> darya: more violence between libyan troops and rebels. they will push back and forth between teaches border. gaddafi fighters chase them crossed the border and mailed to o'leary pushed them back across the frontier. it once the immediate measures to halt violations on its territory. the government crackdown on and point and are cracking down and syria. demonstrators are planning to commemorate the slayings a week ago. saw 112 people killed and one day. series of bruising inspired by revolts in the arab countries around the world. lets take a live look at san jose, traffic is nice and light. friday led i guess. one no one is an easy ride. >> mark: more on their own royal wedding, the man who is second in line to the throne has now got a bride. this is a video of them arriving at buckingham palace after the wedding ceremony. they pledged their lives to one another with the simple words i will. >>prince william says after the archbishop: i, william arthur philip louis, take thee, catherine elizabeth to my wedded wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse: for richer, for poorer; in sickness and in health; to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to god's holy law; and thereto i give thee my troth. >>catherine says after the archbishop: i, catherine elizabeth, take thee, william arthur philip louis, to my wedded husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse: for richer, for poorer; in sickness and in health; to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to god's holy law; and thereto i give thee my troth. >> mark: from the abbey they went to buckingham palace where they had their first kiss on the balcony accompanied by our royal fly over. 2 billion people estimated to watch the ceremonies around the world. 1 million crowded in london. >> darya: let's get a look at the weather as we head into the weekend we are looking at quite the warm-up. by the time we get to sunday were looking at about 15 degrees? >> louisa: we have a string of drive warm days ahead of us. a beautiful day this morning free of fog, it was a big cool this morning we are warming it up. we are also picking up winds, a wind advisory for the dow details of that in a moment. current winds 12 mi. an hour through sfo, 15 in san rosa, san jose 14 mi. an hour winds, 23 the delta. there is a wind advisory for the delta from about 11:00 a.m. until about 8:00 p.m. winds could get up to 25 mi. an hour gusts came up to 40. we're talking about winds picking up mid to late afternoon hours. rainout temperatures at of the '40's, 50's. 53 oakland, 54 in san rafael, often to center rows of 51 degrees, afternoon highs bring us '60s. 62 richmond, temperatures in the north bay in the napa valley mid to upper 60s. 654 hayward and livermore. 7 day around the bay dry for the week temperatures warming for the weekend, by wednesday closing in on 90 inland, it is dr. >> erica: we had some potential hot spots but not anymore. westbound 80 is to make your way through richmond, getting out the door with the bridge check, the toll plaza looks good, those metering lights are active but not really a way just a small one in a couple of the cash lanes. traffic moving wallop the incline and the upper deck. san mateo bridge it has been accident and incident freed. we contended with the strong wind advisory through the morning hours but not the case anymore. year-old and a bridge ride aboard a shock for you and nice light easy conditions. top speeds 25 minutes out of novato and to san francisco. >> darya: 9:33 a.m. president barack obama is an alabama right now looking at the damage left from dozens of tornadoes that swept across the southeast. 300 people have killed by the storm. most of the deaths were in alabama. he is standing by in the debris, splintered buildings and homes. he is meeting with survivors and officials. this is when he arrived this morning, he arrived with mrs. obama shirtsleeves rolled up. he wants reality to set in and tell people ththere are held. >> reporter: president barack obama arrived to survey the storm. thursday he had said declaration order assuring people that the federal government is ready to help in any way possible. that helped cannot come soon enough. >> is just gone. i don't know how to do this. >> reporter: survivors are returning home of many fine their lives reduced to rubble. >> it is and real, it looks like a third world country. >> we lost everything. part of the churches and our house. we have nothing. >> 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>> it could be suspicious, it could be and no cause right now. they had power back according to the residence next door. >> will: unlike the previous fire, this latest one cause the family next door to be displaced after the fire damage their roof and an addict. the fire department says there staying with family members. will tran kron 4 news. >> darya: we will be back with more of a couple of minutes. lots of sunshine outside and the san mateo bridge traffic map at at all. >> darya: trouble live look around the bay, it is cool and breezy but warmer temperatures for the weekend. >> louisa: this is a great forecast, if you have plans outdoors you'll love this weather, temperatures could begin in to the '80s, today you start off cool, tuesday to the san jose, 65 by noon, 67 for your afternoon high. wind is starting to pick up, continuing to be a factor today. in san jose 14 mi. an hour, as the vote 12, 14 through santa rosa, to teen in napa, the delta will see the strongest winds greater round 20. we do have a window advisory for the delta from 11 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. wind could get up to 25 mi. an hour, if for any up to 20 we might get stronger than that. it will peak of around mid to late afternoon. right now temperatures warming up into the 50s. by the afternoon we bring in '60s. similar to yesterday's 68% rosa, 66 for novato, napa, 67 into oakland. here is that good looking forecast as we head into the weekend warming up bin to the eighties, eighties next week by wednesday could be the warmest day of the week getting close to 90 degree mark inland, is run bay, '70s for the coast. >> erica: no hot spots for you but i have noticed slower traffic around the bay area including westbound 80 at of richmond. you do have some minor way in some of those cash lanes for your westbound ride. metering lights are active, traffic is flowing freely in the fast track. no worries over at the san mateo bridge, good commute on a pay word in foster city, here at the golden gate bridge said but traffic is good but take a look at north down 1 01, stop and go conditions. i checked the traffic clogs and didn't see anything but i will be looking for accidents or stalls out there. south bay 101 in san jose, nothing act about their nothing blocking the road way but traffic is bunching up as you make your way through trumbull de la cruz. >> mark: every friday we are joined by legal attorney some inside into some items in the news. >> darya: we are talking about the giants' game where fans as he was upset because one of the coaches from the other team made a slur against gays. he had his nine year-old daughter's there and then he threatened him with a baseball bat. >> in sam francisco added giants game, to make get anti-gay remarks and then to walk over to the father of these 29 year-old girls and threaten him with a baseball bat. gloria is on the scene representing the family she is making a big deal out of this. don't forget not long ago a few weeks ago kobe bryant maybe the best basketball player of all time made an anti daday remarked and apologized. the difference is the father felt threatened, kids were there, fans were there. athletes made remarks and gestures to fans. the issue is what should happen? is a lawsuit going to be filed, should this coach be suspended. what kind of discipline should be imposed. >> mark: he did apologize, he holds zero world series ring, and he has apologized. i'm never surprised when gloria albright shows up. it surprises to me that he has grounds for lawsuits. >> she is an activist attorney she represented one of tiger woods miss stress. anytime somebody is wrong there is a controversial issue she's in the middle of it. the father felt threatened, he was coming at me with the baseball bat. emotional distress, maybe she's tried to get a few bucks out of the atlanta braves. money talks and there may have to be a settlement. the problem really is a wide the anti-gay remarks what is going on? enough already these are professional baseball players paid millions of dollars inexcusable. >> darya: did you watch the royal wedding? >> we watched it. prenups. >> darya: when a you lawyer watches a wedding this is what he thinks. >> if something happens i'm sure there is a prenup involved. hopefully there will be no problems. >> mark: thankfully the be heading days are passed us. >> darya: those lawyers are such romantics. we will be right back. ♪ [ female announcer ] the counter. in most homes, it gets all the action. bring it. getting it clean again is easy with bounty. in this lab test, one sheet of bounty leaves this surface cleaner than 3 sheets of the bargain brand. ♪ why use more when you can use less? ♪ super durable, super absorbent, super clean. bounty. the one-sheet clean picker-upper. >> mark: we have been covering in all morning long, we have been on the air since 2:00 a.m. with a royal wedding of prince william and kathryn middleton. this was the kiss that took place at buckingham palace. 1900 guests inside for the wedding including queen elizabeth. celebrations around the globe. this is what one man said. >> i wish i was up there giving her kids myself. (laughter) it's pretty hot. did you see this sister? good-looking lady to. >> mark: everybody talking about the younger sister. >> darya: if you see the video she's holding the train. >> mark: 2 million people watch this. >> reporter: let me introduce you to some friends. all the way from manila from north england. has it been a good day? >> fantastic, fabulous. >> reporter: what about the kiss? >> we were looking for somebody to kiss with as well but there was nobody. >> reporter: you enjoyed it? >> beautiful lovely. >> reporter: your hat is traffic. let's move around, where are you from? >> london. it was marvelous, i got here at 20 past five i came straight up here i met people from the resilient, australia, other parts of london it's been a wonderful day. >> reporter: where you from? >> 10 and it's the way i came by bus by 7:00 a.m. and it was fantastic well worth the day. thank goodness it was right when a fantastic >> reporter: where you from? >> from london! >> reporter: did you enjoy yourself? >> yes! >> reporter: these people reflect the mood of the crowd here. you've never seen crowds like this or not in decades. >> darya: that reminds me of the bay to breakers. we wear a big hat to that date. it was just something like a circus. but no naked runners at the wedding. we will be back in a moment. prince william says after the archbishop: i, william arthur philip louis, take thee, catherine elizabeth to my wedded wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, now they are >> mark: all highlights of the royal weddings and a few moments. >> darya: first friday morning we want to know what the weather will be light for the weekend. >> louisa: getting grease out there and we will talk about those wins straight ahead. >> erica: no hot spots for the ride around the bay area, live look from the toll plaza metering lights are cycled on, a full text read ahead. >> darya: the royal wedding of the century with catherine and prince william, and now they are husband and wife they were married this morning. it was 2:00 a.m. when the action happened. this is when they got into the carriage after being married before 1900 gas inside, outside 1 million people packing the streets of london. plus 2 billion people watching across the globe. the whole royal family gathered, the couple to the and duchess of cambridge. >> mark: william is second and throwin line to the throne, kate within 8 ft. train/sarah burton the dress kept secret until today. the t.r. was borrowed from queen elizabeth. >>prince william says after the archbishop: i, william arthur philip louis, take thee, catherine elizabeth to my wedded wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse: for richer, for poorer; in sickness and in health; to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to god's holy law; and thereto i give thee my troth. >>catherine says after the archbishop: i, catherine elizabeth, take thee, william arthur philip louis, to my wedded husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse: for richer, for poorer; in sickness and in health; to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to god's holy law; and thereto i give thee my troth. >> darya: from the abbey was on to the kiss. there were two kisses. right here after they went to the. there they go. then they gave to kisses. next is our royal honeymoon and that is being kept as secret. there is the flyover. all of the highlights of the royal wedding on our website at www.kron4.com. >> mark: waiting for the big warm up here let's go to the weather center. >> louisa: today watching wins starting to pick up around the bay, we have an advisory to tell you about. clear conditions across the golden gate bridge was a big cool in the 30's and '40's. now we are in the '50s. warming up more to the weekend. here's a look at your when speeds, 12 mi. north spins at sfo and oakland, in the delta that's where the strongest wind is now, we have a wind advisory for the delta from about 11:00 a.m. until about the 8:00 p.m. hour. the winds will pick up towards mid-late afternoon hours. temperatures warming up and to the '50s 52 san francisco, 51 in san rosa, in the south bay temperatures in the low 50s 51 livermore. the highs into the '60s today similar to yesterday's 68 san rosa, 66 san rafael, mid to upper 60s in the east bay, here is that 7 day that brings us an abundance of sunshine through the weekend, hopping up to the '80s on sunday and continuing in the '80s next week. >> erica: here's a quick bridge check to get you out the door, no hot spots around the bay area,, traffic moving well from the shore freeway westbound 580 into the northbound direction of the nimitz freeway. 10 minutes from the foot of the maze towards fremont street san francisco. san mateo bridge has been nice and light lots of space between hayward and foster city. eastbound traffic also moves well into hayward, golden gate bridge last track a stall no. l 101 raid at mid span blocking number to lane. it looks like it has been moved as traffic is picked up in the northbound direction, southbound cars are slowing down at the toll plaza, nothing reported yet but more informational in the next report. >> darya: we will be back with more a couple of minutes, the big story of the day is here in the united states, storm is ravaging the south. >> mark: last space shuttle launch is scrubbed we will tell you why. >> mark: severe weather in the south east 300 people killed. over 200 of the dead are in alabama. this is tuscaloosa and the surrounding area. it is a home to the university of alabama. two students killed. the president speaking right now. >> we will make that same commitment to make sure we are doing what we can to make sure people are ok. >> that cindy got in the way. >> where's the secret service when you need them. >> as you walk around we were talking to college students over there, at the university of alabama they are volunteering to clean up. this young lady lived at the apartment. she wasn't here when the storm happened. you're struck by the people's resilience, the way the community comes together. that is testimony to the mayor and the governor and also inherent as part of the american spirit. we go through hard times, no matter how hard we are tested we maintain our faith, we look to each other to make sure we are supporting each other, helping each other. i'm sure that spirit will continue until the city it is all the way back. mr. mayer, he was pointing out there is a lot of national media down here now. the mayor expressed concern that perhaps the media will move on in a date, a week, a month and that folks will forget what happened here. i want to assure him the american people across the country are with him and his community. we will make sure he is not forgotten. with that governor would like to say a few words? >> i would like to personally thank you. >> mark: we are listening to the president surveying the damage from 130 tornadoes that tore the south apart when tonight thursday morning. >> darya: the plan is going to the floor-even though the final launch of the endeavor has been cancelled. in this crowd, it will blast off on sunday at the earliest. this is puzzling because of a heater failure. this after they had hail last night, now with the failure of this heater they have to delay this. it will be the end of the road for in denver.endeavor. wee right back in a couple minutes. >> darya: 10:16 a.m. the royal wedding and our coverage continues. the big story this morning there is kathryn middleton getting out of the car with her father and going into westminster abbey this morning. it was the first glimpse of that dress. lace and silt. she arrived how nervous mushy be. she had an 8 ft. train on the back of her dress. --nervous she must be. --. there's the prince and the brother harry in the military attire. >> mark: there's a proud grandparents as well queen elizabeth. wait a minute. queen elizabeth the second and the duke of edinburgh. there they are. >> darya: she's wearing yellow. there are only 1900 people a inside. the weather held out, they consider that fabulous whether it didn't rain and the sun peeked out for a moment. >> mark: we had better weather. >> louisa: just like the queen this 7 day is dressed in yellow. this morning however chilly temperatures in the 30's, up to 56 in san jose, mid-60s by noontime and upper 60s by the afternoon. 47 by 8:00 p.m. the camera shaking a bit, those winds had been picking up. 13 mi. an hour winds in san jose, 17 for sfo, redwood city and napa valley as well. 22 mi. an hour winds right now in fairfield, wind advisory has been issued through the 11:00 p.m. hour until about 8:00 p.m. tonight. they are well on the way to 25 mi. an hour winds were gusting up to 40 mi. an hour. right now 50 is pretty much everywhere. 57 oakland, 58 hayward, 56 and malamute. your afternoon highs 60s 69 fairfield, 61 in downtown san francisco, the coast we will be in the '50s, 67 and i'll miss you and san jose. 7 day around the bay temperatures warming to the '80s by your sunday, upper 80s by wednesday. >> erica: overall hotspot free commune no major problems bay area wide, you can see that at the approach to the bay bridge toll plaza, we have cleared out the back of meter lights have been cycled off traffic is flowing freely here. the san mateo bridge has been problem free westbound 92 looks good, traffic on the right-hand side of your screen. golden gate bridge 101 minute span we did have a stalled truck. now completely gone and traffic has picked up as you make your way back into marin county. southbound traffic moves well at the toll plaza, drive time of 23 minutes out of novato went to san francisco. south bay no hot spots for you alive look right near trimble little cruise it is windy out there but speeds have picked up here. >> darya: 10:20 a.m. new this morning oakland city attorney john russo has accepted the job of city manager in alameda. russo agreed to a proposed contract that includes a base salary of $215,000. the news ends months of speculation about russo's departure. russo, oakland's first elected city attorney, has butted heads with mayor jean quan over a proposed gang injunction that he supports. the oakland city council is expected to select a replacement to fill the rest of russo's term. >> mark: wall street rainout dow jones up 59 points, earning season still full swing, word that chevron reporting a rise in first quarter profits, quarterly earnings this morning up 36%. the company receiving higher prices for the oil it produces, and made more money from refining that oil. results topping expectations $2 billion on the quarter. >> darya: we will be right back in a couple of minutes. are you rooting for the sharks tonight joanne will be at game 1 at the second game candiotti h-p pavilion courtesy of kron 4. a pair of tickets to games to sharks taking on the red wings and again go to kron 4 all, or facebook.-- >> mark: of look as video coming in. president barack obama during the damage in alabama. search and rescue operation continues this morning the death toll close to 300. 210 in alabama. look as the camera pulls back 137 tornadoes touched down wednesday night thursday morning. one tornado was a net five tornado. the first at 5 in 50 years. winds over 200 mi. an hour. the president walking the area talking to officials and residents. he has declared a state of emergency. >> darya: our coverage of the royal wedding continues as millions of people watched a around the world. catherine middleton marion prince william. they're watching on the big screen at times square. there were parties across the country including in the bay area as hens were up looking at the monitors. in china people were gathering in malls and pubs. tea and scones were on the menu. people were in the spirit. >> mark: people wearing royal mast posing for photos. people seated in watching the big screen, a dressing up for the location. we will be right back as the news continues. another look from alabama, president barack obama tran the damage. 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[ female announcer ] it's easy to compare online at att.com/comparesanfrancisco and see for yourself. >> darya: we are joining the president live today a late addition to his schedule he wanted to see firsthand the damage from the severe weather and tornadoes that killed so many people. many victims were in alabama. >> we have got a great team, they have worked together, and now we have the federal government helping us that shows when local and state, and federal government work together we can accomplish things. that's what we will do. so mr. president welcome to alabama but not under these situations. we welcome you back to football game when things are better. >> i would like to say a few words. >> that you for coming today. the last 36 hours have been the most trying time in history for this community. you will see new story being written in the years to come these chapters will be hope, opportunity. since this began i have been using romans 1212. rejoice in hope. your visit has are brought a confident " in this area. we will be a story will be proud of and you talk about throughout the land. thank you for coming today. >> 2 last when someone make, our congressional delegation is here, i'm absolutely confident they will make sure resources are available to rebuild. to local officials that are here i know they have been personally affected, i know it will provide leadership and work with the mayor and the governor to do what is needed then there's that something profound as we drove over here. he said what is amazing when something like this happens, folks forget about petty differences, politics, race, religion all the kids away. when we are confronted with the awesome power of nature. we are reminded all we have is each other. hopefully that spirit continues and gross. if nothing else comes out of this tragedy let's hope that comes out of it. thank you everybody. >> darya: that approacwas the pt speaking earlier. he has pledged to help those who survived and lost their homes with the tornadoes. we will be right back. whoa, i should get mom a samsung fascinate. bright, colorful screen, high-speed downloads, hd video. she'll want videos of grandkids. i'm not ready for kids. what would i name it ? brian's good. a brian will make eye contact, work with his hands, return e-mails. okay, mom's getting a phone. get mom a new samsung fascinate for $99.99 and unlimited data for only $29.99 on america's largest high-speed wireless network. verizon. >> darya: the big story unfolded this morning. a kiss that seals it, catherine and prince william are the duke and dodges of cambridge. they were married at westminster abbey. afterward they went to but the hand palace. in front of 1 million well-wishers' an official fly over as well. where they will honeymoon is the secret. there was a luncheon today and a big party tonight with 300 friends and family invited. and their stories president barack obama is and tuscaloosa alabama. he wrapped up a live press conference. he sought damage first hand and the devastation left behind after storms ripped through there. 36 people killed in that city alone including two students. the president signed a disaster declaration helping them clean up from the devastation. 200 people were killed. >> mark: the president then going to cape canaveral for endeavour's launch, but that logic is scrubbed an hour-and-a- half ago there was problems with a solar heaters on the shuttle. just as the crew was making its way out to the shuttle, to board they turn them around, delayed until sunday at the earliest. 48 hour delay for the last mission for in denver. president barack obama will still go to cape canaveral to me with nassau even know there will be launched. this san francisco fine49ers pid his lesser known to the offensive team mate. they believe they've found something special. the 49ers also show they could go free agency to fill quarterback. a check gone bay area weather. >> louisa: as we head toward so weekend they will continue to climb, bring now we are starting off with wind. it will continue to increase as we head into the afternoon. san jose 56 by noontime and '60s high temperature of 67 today. here's a look at winds right now is san jose winds 13, 17 mi. an hour winds at s at all, up three napa and fairfield around 22 mi. an hour winds. wind advisory for the delta of from 11 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. northwest winds getting up to 25 mi. an hour and gusting 40 mi. an hour. they will peak around late afternoon hours. rainout temperatures in the '50s 55 san francisco, 56 mountain view and san jose. by this afternoon those ties in the '60s but it looks like we will block from here. upper 60s said rosas, 61 san francisco along the coast is the spirit 65 into the livermore valley and warmer than that headed down towards mt. view and san jose. watch the temperatures sky rocket into the weekend, warming up in the '80s by sunday and continuing to see them climb towards mid week next week. wednesday 88 for some of the warmer inland spots. staying in the '80s around the bay '70s for the coast. a lot of warm temperatures and sunshine ahead of us. >> erica: a final check gone here friday morning commute, no hot spots so here is a bridge check. the approach to the bay bridge toll plaza nice and light is to make your way into san francisco no meter lights to deal with an traffic moves well from the shore freeway westbound 580. northbound direction of the nimitz freeway no problems or snags here. traffic moving well in both directions across the span. easy trip and to san francisco via the golden gate bridge someone 01 nice and light. same with the ride out of marin county. final check gone public transit ac transit muni all running on time. >> darya: live to the president stopping at a shelter, so many people have been displaced by their homefrom their homes. he g to people and telling them, help is on the way. he wanted to make a show of support for all of these people who lost everything. there was so much devastation and some much to recover from here so the president really lifting the spirits of the people here. >> mark: back in the bay area looks look float like the cruise ship business is getting under way. this is the disney wonder crucial the first of many ships coming to the bay area over the next few months. jackie sicily's life. >> reporter: a disney brand you talked about it, it is familiar but it is new to this san francisco pier. this is it's made mccall, a huge ship 900 state rooms. it will be going to british columbia with a stop in san francisco. the real story is over here, all of the people walking along the embarcadero. they are increasing the ships coming in and out of the port, last year they had 40, this year about 60. you know what that means winter is hit the street they buy lunch, dinner, taxicabs, go into stores and buy shirts, that is exactly what they want. they hope this is the beginning of a great relationship with disney and other cruise ships. >> mark: there for ships coming in as we head into summer tourist season. don't forget kron4 has exclusive coverage of the 100 zazzle, bay to breakers on kron4 that will be sunday, may 15th, beginning at 8:00 a.m. we have cameras all along the course and we will replay the event sunday night at 8:00 p.m. 3ç honey, we've got tickets to the game, so we're going to need a sitter on saturday night. i almost forgot. we're having dinner together on friday for dad's 65th birthday. maybe i'll ask my parents to baby sit. are you sure you want to go there? you're right. ♪ born to be wild ♪ born to be wild [screaming] who's going to watch them? for you, baby sitting is just a figure of speech. that's why we've created medicare solutions that are just right for you. we have plans with monthly premiums as low as $0, the freedom to choose any doctor who accepts medicare, and that lets you talk to a live person when you call 65. it's just a number, so remember to call ours 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have in common? they all have i pads with repeat that it plans. they've discovered a way to get the at&t billing website and federal prosecutors say they are not amused. >> the hallmark of that subculture is malicious or one upmanship. the more their victims have to scramble to fix the holes and the bigger the humiliation and reputation of actual damage to the corporate victim. the more breaking rights that these individuals have of their own committee. we do not tolerate committing crimes for fun. not in any area that we police. the safety and security of the network said of the structures is an issue of national security. >> this is the video where he lives. we did find a building manager were fbi it managers have been investigating for a very long time. they showed up at his building back in june. >> when they shut up first thing in the morning it was 630 or 7:00 a.m.. >> they took the computers. a couple of laptops for the most part. they did not talk to us at all. they're doing their own business in there here for most of the day. >> at&t has since passed up the security hole. prosecutors say that if they're convicted the two men who were arrested will have to pay the phone company for the cost of repairing their security hole in the website. jonathan blum for kron4 news. >> now, to do details for apple. plus, new details on the ceo steve jobs. he is now taking a medical leave. they say that he has been looking into all of it. >> let us talk about earnings of first. his income was seven%. the key to holiday shoppers to in all types of things. they did a million and more than you would of thought or the analysts predicted. 1 million items. how do things look like for words now that steve jobs' is taking and other leave? >> he is taking and other medical leave and some analysts are predicting a fall of their stock on tuesday but that did not happen. it closed down but only about eight points below the close. >> people are prepared for the idea that this is going to happen. apple has as strong group of executives for steve. >> when steve last looked medical leave the stock was at $85 and when he reappeared a had doubled. and analysts say that wall street remains confident in apple going forward. >> short term there is nothing to worry about, their sales are great in the act that is unbelievable revolutionary device it that is created. >> the real question is if he is unable to return what happens long term when it comes time to create the next big thing. >> there is only one that steve jobs. what kind of inspiration can be provided it from people that it overshadowed him? there is no way to know. >> it is really up in the air. the good news going forward is that we do not know how long he is glad to be gone. he says for the next year or two everything is backfiring and great. >> is just down the road. >> san francisco city leaders joined american caught it leaders were triggered the fishermen work. several venues will be set up there for the race. it will be re central. today, others walked this site to see what looks like now i discussed the changes to come. the new mayor says that they set up a committee to make sure that all businesses in matters impacted by the changes will be addressed. >> first of all, one of the purposes is the steering committee. they are a major agency. part of their job is in infrastructure that is to develop and nl a program that will take care of the tenants. >> the race organizers say that there will transform the warts and is under way quite sane filing impact reports. you can go to kron4 news and share your thoughts about the upcoming cup. now, let us check in with capturing. >> we want to tell you about this incident at the the pachinko. at bomb squad agents is a out there, it was an incident that 95 first avenue pachinko, said the six city was closed. there it is pipe bombs. nothing dangerous. chp officer tom maguire is on the phone with us. can you tell us that bit about what is happening with traffic? have they reopened the freeway there? >> yes catherine. we have just be opened it. the back is extended. it is now moving. >> i was going to us you have but the backup was. but reopened is traffic moving what >>? still a slow the onset of a period of little bit of a slowdown, east the never shut down. we anticipate that it will flow regularly. >> just to let everybody know we are being told that drugs were found on the scene and that there are police handling bad case now with the narcotics enforcement department and they are dealing with that aspect. pam? >> taking a look at our current conditions. the fog is reforming up there right now. will talk more about the fog and what looks like there to mark coming up in a bit. new concerns over damage caused by aptos creek. the water not only flows directly to the notion over the last few months but crete has meandered down the beach and started to erode the rotating it road. homeowners say that they're willing to pay to have the creek fixed but permits have not been issued because they say anybody from decree could distract the habitat of the steelhead trout. >> it extended a little bit to and they need somebody to get permission to cut the creeped up and said the coming over here and undermining our roads. we can add anything about it. we have tied as we're just went to wait and see what happens. there might be a lawsuit here before we're through. i think so. >> the only way to get the proper permits is to fix the problem with an emergency is declared by the county. homeowners are worried that more damage could have been if it is declared. kimberly is that the mother has of mort. >> we can see the million dollar homes. the creek is just a few blocks away. let us take a look out over here. record to take a look at the creek right along here. take a look at the green arrow you concede that it normally follows this pathway into the ocean but as we look into the spread we can see that it has taken a turn in a different direction. it is cutting straight across the beach into the homes. as you saw it and that home the water has reached about here into the rocky area and one resident says that the creek is now several months ago that was not there. >> somewhat residences got a shot when a deer came crashing through their dining room window. the deer had been in the neighbor's yard when it was booked. it ended at at john loretta's home. the deer is the true of sliding glass door by ramming it several times. it the door was not broken but it was not under its rules. the deer left quite a mess. >> it broke the window. it slid across the table. it broke up few items on the table. it broke the napkin holder, the better it scattered, out the sugar was scattered. the jurors were not dead of the way. we had a lot of fun cleaning house yesterday's and getting and it would open. >> he believes that the deer jump through the window because it mistook the reflection of the window as a way out into the yard. a look at traffic in san jose , the lights are said bunch. north said that right now. stay with us. suggested we have the details on the incident at the not pachinko. across the county the shares had bomb squads. drug agents. you're looking at the scene of where police and have received reports of explosive devices. pipe bombs near a storage facility. this is an affordable storage were looking at. they got the report. we've since learned that they detonated a for devices. they said they were not dangerous and it was a big traffic mess because the chp closed on the 68. they did that at 510. as we just found out they have since it reopened. they reopened after 530. traffic is flowing again. it is a case in which we are hearing at least one person has been taken into custody. drug agents say that there were drugs found here on the scene. they are handling that. pam question >> as 7.2 quake hit to near the border of afghanistan. it was felt all across the country. the magnitude 7.2 back in 2005 killed about 85,000 people in pakistan the being of more than 3 billion homeless. >> a dictator returned to haiti and thought it would be a problem. he was wrong. this is this seen where they came up. heat was waving. they escorted him from his hotel. they returned on sunday it. the legal case and has been opened against him. an attorney says that his client is now facing accusations of corruption and embezzlement. the mexican police say that they have arrested this man who helped create a bridge built drug cartel and a are looking at san diego. he had a bodyguard who was arrested on monday night. he was accused of smuggling and migrants. he massacred 72 migrants of last august. he was up for mark salter. of least 40 people have been killed in flooding and said africa's capital. on monday night. it's what kinds of bridges appeared swamped homes. there is word that one of the rescuers has been killed. a 42 wrote fire fighter. he died after his reps size. we have the latest images of brazil. at least 700 people have now been killed by heavy flooding. puree the bodies of animals, that is a lizard and the bodies of people that is still being found. mudslides have obliterated the entire community. people in some mountain villages are being stranded. rescue helicopters are having big problems of finding safe places to live. >> i live look from the golden gate bridge. conditions are a lot they said that what we said 24 hours ago. the visibility is great. it is mostly clear if there. it will stay that way until later on tonight when we see areas of dense fog for me. to my afternoon with a few clouds. a breezy conditions affected the bay area life. a look at high temperatures. mostly in the about 60s. 60 degrees in brentwood. 69 in santa rosa. the accord to be seeing fall overnight. not as extensive as tonight. we will see similar conditions smart. 7:00 hour in no-fault through the north pay into the peninsula. along the coastline. the bullet fired about nine it that there is the fog cleared the bay area and wide. but as take a look at the clearing * mar. santa rosa we will see some fog pay on their lager. there's a point to be clear and of little bit quicker. the absolute latest will seat at 10:00 a.m.. san francisco. redwood city. the fog not last very long for our inland counties. as for those temperatures to mark their very similar today. it is a lot when you're up there tomorrow. santa rosa is 58. 59 san francisco. 58 also to the lake. winds will be gusty as in the north of east bay hills. you can see the best in the north bay range. redwood city is looking at 62. senate for it. looking at short seven day around the date we have fought to our morning, wendy in the afternoon with of living and we had it for the rest of the week. we will need mild in the afternoon. it will last well into the weekend. the 60s expected to be extended forecast prepared >> i looked out side. it is low in all directions here. this is the 8101 split. more news after the break. and the coach keith jackson has been promoted to head coach. >> thank-you pam, once al davis brought in he jackson to run the results he knew he had his a fan. it was on the the wofford on cable. what does just roll up. desert pictures from the press conference. a little after noon time. his 35 years old. he is lost angeles native. he is an assistant with four nfl teams. his offensive mind was what really impressed the sports scene. here's some from him. >> what i am most excited about is the environment and the process. we record decree did by mature for our players. we are chasing great as. my job is to do everything i can't take them where they want to go. >> when i came and i was given the authority and met some opposition he took them and ran with it. >> all right, he did not appointed tom davis. this came out today. they have it down. randy nelson, the ex- wife of tom cable. the allegations of cable. pretty much, remain friends on the hole before days. a loss of focus as far as winning the games. all of this note to it for al davis to say, you know what? and that is enough. >> it got to a point where allen entireties were spending all of their time on these allegations oagain says. our attorneys, pass them to resolve all cases against as. the raiders. until you do that, when it went to take money ended your check because we do not know what the file will be against the raiders in the lawsuit. >> in the end al davis blocked them $20,000 he is ready is some of the back. it was settled and some of that hundred and 20,000 went to it the randy nelson case. more coming up in sports. back to the studio. >> i live look into the rift came. the news as six is next. withi now at 6:00 p.m.. >> tax payers warned that they may find themselves of footing the bill for some and plays it sex changes. >> said chris stepped up security. >> day set know where your exit's are. >> the majority of the kid's word w t f, what is going on? >> it changes their privacy policy. your personal information will be under tighter security. >> life, this is kron4 news at 6. >> in one hour at the berkeley city council will decide if they set aside $20,000 a year to pay for city employes who want to set exchange. kron4 news k. thompson says residents are divided whether taxpayer money should be is to pay for the operations. >> i pocketed 20,000 year would be set aside to help pay for sex change procedures. it is not covered under berkeley's health plans. the idea was proposed more than four years ago by carol who says it was that i'm fair for the transgendered committee. some residents agree but also worried that this may not be the right time with this city closing down two days a month and many employees are taking pay cuts to help with budget problems. >> have no problem with it. >> let's take care of the basic vanes that neglected in this town or forgotten. pay more attention to that. >> it would have to meet three criteria. they need to be part of this city for the year and 82 be living as the opposite sex for one year. they also ought to go through hormone therapy. this it 20 dozen dollar pot is where all employees. once that money is gone is gone and will given out on a first-come first-served basis. >> no tax dollars should be used for emplace exchanges. >> i think that this staff is a good idea to take care of our representatives with their health care. basic called cure. and sex changes. >> reporting in berkeley kate thompson. >> the daytime shooting injured when a man in that district. it all started at 60 and went to bed got off of the minibus. you can see one of the teams being arrested. one of the suspects fired a gun. it struck one man. one bullet pierced the car windshield across the street. for people that live in the area they are rattled by the violence happening in broad daylight. >> you know here is. it is scary. the nature of has changed. they really changed. >> i like it here. it is getting too close for comfort though. >> the victim was transported and is expected to survive. extra security on campus after a threat was made on campus. university officials say after graffiti was found on a bathroom wall and the social sciences building. it will not say exactly what was part of the only bad references today that the threat would be carried out. >> they know that the tragedy in tucson kind of reminded us and we're trying to convey into the community that safety is really everybody's business. in the end some of the businesses goes up because they do not return the of it just they don't. we really encourage people to do that. >> no trouble has been reported that extra security will remain on the job until the evening. the details about a teen tortured in tracy. the sentencing has been postponed. anthony waiters as you seat here it was supposed to be in court today. his defense attorney wants a new trial. they are opposing this i did sent to give a lawyer time. he was found guilty back in november of aggravated mayhem, portrait and kidnapping and false imprisonment. the victim, caught the latest testified against. he showed up added jim the night he escaped grades is back in 2008. three others have been sentenced. 30 years in prison. >> i teenage girl is fighting for her life in los angeles after being shot in high-school apparently a trade-off swat teams took up position on campus. and students were told to come out with their hands up. here is protected. more than 3000 students are enrolled there. it took awhile to determine when blood on. >> they came to a class demanded appears that they set a back pack down on the desk. a gun that was inside the backpack was a charge. the run from the guard hit both of the students. they told the l.a. times that when that gun went off the were in health class. it hit the girl and a temple in another suitor to the neck. they say that the student said " i am sorry " and that he read out of the room. he was found hiding in another classroom. the 10th grader was taken into custody. >> as school was equipped with metal detectors and there's no explanation of how they felt to detect a gun. >> a look at the fog again tomorrow morning. plus, windy conditions this afternoon. your full for as coming up. the news board of directors met today. there are controversy will to discuss. they took the weight, kristin, is with us now here she is looking at all of these issues and a lot people thought that the issue involving the employees losing their free parking was already a done deal but apparently not. >> lot of people that think it was passed last year. fighting continued today. they're just posted out really thought the eyes and cross the t's but approving this brief with theirs was to do it is approved a plea if they did not then they were supposed to. it surprises and said. it took the initiative to a closed- door discussion. right now everything is on hold. let us go to levels of the inner and i will show you some parks it. the plan calls for a charging in plays that the park for free so when bay drive they will be charged with of the permanent and the union says that is not really fair. they say it that drivers have to try to work. it did not is not in writing. it will be up and running by march 1st. as i mentioned right now everything is put down whole. >> it does have an impact on our budget. it think that there's a concern of this magnitude. i'm calling directions that we will take another good luck at what impact this will have on our employees. >> the second issue, you're looking at is here, there is some change to the end of the do . the artist's rendering. they got rid of some curbside parking for what they sought where these bulbs. people can get on and off easier. this area is posing a danger and they say it will help with online health reform. >> people in the neighborhood are not happy about this, they will need to take away some parking spaces and there's about eight or nine spaces. it is much will be lost in this area. >> more to come on this. stanley roberts will tell us what they need to do it and why it it needs to speed things up. >> people are writing often step off the curved edge up the street and not to the train. i am at the corner of, out in straight. however, the media wants to change this was something that is called decide what pool. it is for this side what comes out side with the train. beauty wants to have it here on the north and south side with intersect and also on this out side. that pedestrians can have easy access to trains. there is however and downside, it will mean a loss of multiple it parking spaces but it will make for better passenger is a and fair increase saying it better service. >> as media attempts to deal with their on-time issues officials are also looking at ways to deal the large deficit. when did they are considering is a forcing an old parking ordinance which will mandate of flat rate. currently grosz's have some flexibility and offer a variety of discount. they say it could take more money in revenue however commuters say the increase could really hurt them. >> the impact a lot of folks. i work for nonprofit so it's definitely impact our office. that is not a good. >> public hearings are set for march. we will be back. the details now, the republic and the house is moving towards about on repeal it president barack obama as a lot. smith the haze has more on the continued battle. >> i say before where it components are taking sides. the skepticism in the approach will succeed. >> it is an important symbol to the american people. to some people think will be in charge of making health care. >> in an effort to show it that your side of health- care it they have the americans that will be heard by every pill. their appeal is important. it means that day it will not be able to stay on our insurance policy. >> republican congressman expects to seek support even among democrats in the senate where they have a slim majority. >> some of them know already that they have a vote in the senate, it will be it repealed. >> it follows the shooting in arizona this year's late injured congresswomen birds. >> they have arrived in the u.s. and today they're greeted by eight u.s. presidents. this is his arrival at the airport. the chinese leader will be in the u.s. for three days. president barack obama will host a private dinner. there will be update elaborate escape dinner. they're able suit released trapeze to north korea. and expected to meet with lawbreakers. this is quite protesters agreed with the chinese policies of the bed. they say it is time for the u.s. to set up >>. under the leadership of president brought up, to embrace ends actively seek >> it what to see more friendship and trade. they also want to seek president barack obama push hard for china to be a more democratic. >> face book is making changes after this social never create a giant was heavily criticized. it to the reporter could bully has detailed >>. security experts really jumped over casebooks decision to jump over third- party applications access to year at information. it put up included your home address or your phone number. date are temporarily stopping that future. that is take a look at some of the videos. it was yesterday that he took the really careful to be careful because before it an application can be accessed it requires information for your information. as i said. all of this has changed today and the bloc host they say that they are listening to be back and that they will disable the sharing feature until certain changes are made. >> a live look out side to the golden gate bridge. you can actually see the bridge of there this evening. the visibility and it appeared the temperatures are still on the mild side. and is not performing any word on this hour. 56 and oakland, it is quite to be of miles out there today. the fog the debt is lowered to reform out there tonight. with regard to see some thought to date. specially of the north bay. the fog should clear quickly it by tomorrow morning with a few clubs in the afternoon and freezing conditions. what we see it with us and that it 20 mi. range. i look at fault tracker and the north bay ballets scaling across the back line. not quite as widespread. it is now pushed down to the south and will not be pushed down. a look at our high temperatures it to santa rosa. 58 of leah. temperatures are pretty while and do not forget about the wins. they are in their teens. a look at your kron4 news and seven day around the bay. would the into the afternoon will help wipe out the fog. take a look at our temperatures. mostly sunny skies and mild conditions getting into the low 60s. stay with us. a bureaucrat after the short break. the herd containing the remains of a co-founder of this offer for and has been stolen. happened over the weekend went the spoken to this mausoleum of the lafayette cemetery. they're pleading for the return of their remains. >> maybe somebody thought that the earnings were made of gold or copper and they thought they could melt it for money. we're not really sure the import message that we want to get across to everyone is that we want them back. there is a $10,000 reward no questions asked. >> the family has talked to pawnshop owners and hoping to find the missing heard. colgate parkin said prices could soon be designated as a city landmark. city leaders say the changes to the park would then have to be approved by the historic preservation division in addition to the parks department. will be back. or do said. more news ahead. san francisco man is one of two men in custody. he acted to more than 100,000 i pass. jonathan blum tells us what they know. >> daniel statler is a 26 year-old bookstore it security guard is facing one decade behind bars. he is blind to the tune of a quarter million dollars. he conspired to steal the e- mail addresses of more than 150,000 users. some of the victims. prosecutors say that the two men got their e-mail addresses by exploiting a security hole. they actually told at&t about planning for the security for. that is pretty far from the truth. >> they're members of a group that calls itself and pretends to beat an internet to research security group. as charged in the complaint the defendants are really just hackers. their self- described internet troll's. the government that existed in the world to discover weaknesses and exploiting the through holes. it is the latest credibility eight members of their own group. >> here is a picture of the building where they lived. he showed up back in june and at the time they would not say anything. >> it is surprising. i knew it was something that was quick to happen. i was still trading to, you know, i did not see him get arrested and they are moving computers from the department. it did not what the part of the word. they obviously did not tell us anything, that is committed did their thing. >> along with the find at the present sentence they could actually have to pay back. >> on the heels of the disappointing news, and apple ceo steve jobs or will take another medical leave. earnings, they take a look at both issues. >> we can tell you that the net income jumped 78%. that is due to the sale of bypass. more than 7 million of them are expected. they sent apple's after hours trading up. it was a different story. and at a modest drop. >> the company is well- positioned. steve has provided. his biggest role is to be the it decisionmaker. the need to know what inspiration to be provided. >> analysts say that it is something that they're not able to predict. for all we know >> they were footing the bill for a sex change operation. they're set to vote on whether they will approve a 20,000 a year. and plays it will have sued mead said implications. and living as the opposition said sex. it would be built on a first-come first serve. the city of san francisco. >> here in santa cruz a threat of violence with a tight end security. comes after griffey was left on a bathroom wall. to read into violence. it was aimed at students and faculty members. the say the decision was after the shootings into some >>. and sampras is go reports showed union service is a sliding perry they showed up on time. it is compared to 75% at the beginning of the year. it was mandated. to try and meet 85%. a is a halt by 2010. christine connally for it kron4 news. >> the early bart part. it may soon become a thing of the past. san francisco officials are looking to enforce its mandate that all parking is in this city. caliber gun and several millions of dollars of revenue. there will be charged hundreds of dollars more. it will take place on this issue in march. >> at creek is coz say the damage to some homeowners. that is being done. and they're talking to a homeowner is says the state needs of fish. if it is a beautiful place with beautiful homes and beautiful natural scenery. nature is taking a turn and cutting off the table. normally it flows straight to the ocean. it is want the beach. you could see it has already cut into the wall and taken out these steps. the other is a 20 ft. drop where they once did. they will be happy to pay for the work to fix the great but they cannot get permission. >> i cannot do anything about it. my hands are tied. will have to wait to see what happens. and go from there. >> the promise there multiple agencies involved. the game won't issue permits because they say work of the creek would disrupt the endangered steel trout that live there. they say the construction chris will use slides. >> it's sufficient aid. i'm not sure. here we are hung up. >> they're hoping the critical back the way it was before more damage is done. >> architect with their story. visibility is not a problem. we have not seen the fog reform. it will reform out there in places like the north bay into shores. it should clear by ted to our morning. the densest fog is in the north bay. temperatures overnight are warm and mild. thanks to the clear skies. 40 degrees a nap uh, 42 in santa rosa and the little cooler out there tomorrow morning. temperatures in the afternoon and a smile. when speeds into the teens with us into the 20s. will make you feel just a little bit cooler out there. a quick look at the the bircher. it is relate wiped out for the rest of the week ended to the weekend not a whole lot of change. >> is just good, ever alert issued for a little play, for year-old guiliani cardenas. he is abducted by jose as the bond rodriguez. the suspect was last seen driving at polyacrylamide by pete heading to san jose. the car has oversized a limited wheels. he is described as 27 years old. anybody with information as to contact the it county office. stay with us, we will be right back after this break in the best tonight. it reaches the full burden is a long-term post and ready to retire. he will leave live with regis and kelly at the end of the. he boasts the most hours on camera with a total of 15,000 hours of airtime. he noticed his health issues in the past. the upcoming will wedding of prince william is prompting the parliament to call for reform for it at 18 entered recession that model. it was against the daughter born to a danish couple. under the law they have first dibs over the british crown over their sisters. now they will take up an issue that will remove the distinction of the sexes and the royal succession. alton john has introduced his new son zachary to the world on the cover of us weekly magazine. he is bored a surrogate. weighing 7 lbs. 60 benches. he had privately tried to adopt when he visited. the adoption was stopped as the server was too old. the raiders introduced the new head coach today but that is not the only thing i'm al davis's mind. i live report would carry ahead. coming up next. righetti flavor but it is spoken publicly in six months and today as expected he stole the show an elevator. first they had to get through the introduction of the new coach to jackson. who caught oh boy, he must be thinking " oh boy i've been waiting as an assistant coach since 1987 and i'm not a head coach in the league. oliver grace talk about is what all this said about the knicks' coach. ursula's to be yours too. as of the raider boss. >> what i most excited about is the environment that is starting to approach. there's processes in place here we're not a great bargain. it is great here where chasing appear to some great as. my job is to do whatever i can do to protect this the we know where we want to go we want to win the super bowl. >> using the authority to run the offense. he met some opposition from time to time. he took them and he ran with it. we score points. >> yes, the first half of this press conference is mr. davis to his death. can see what he is one of the all- time greats in the late. but then there was part too. if you is an element with davis. he was verses' the ex coach don campbell. oliver perry >> hello their gear. if he won the playoffs tom campbell would not be the man calling the signals for yes year. they grabbed offense from the throne and produce results predellas it. it attack combat with all of the legal issues and all of the raiders, at a time table, the allegations. the ex-wife, the other wife. randy hanson. it was just too much for al davis to take. he just had enough. six years in this press conference was all al davis talking about a timetable. here's a sample. >> in the contract for the head coach the specifically states these actions. they're subject to the discretion of of the general portion of the raiders. i asked tom cable at least three or four different times. is there anything else? it got to a point where our attorneys spent a lot of time on these allegations against us. it wasn't there. we did a good job. this just was not to take in more. so, our attorneys asked them to resolve all of the cases against us. the raiders. and until you do that we're against to take money out of your check because we do not know. >> alright gary, as you go after all this is money. you should have seen in the tone of this. that was cable, well, pretty much it thrown under the best by davis. he said " i could have thrown him out with gauze. i did not give him anything for what he did to the organization. elvis is not about embarrassing to the raiders. once that happened that was it. " davis came out and said that he lied to him. he said take after this first flight by need to know anything else and tom campbell did not respond. the s p a results camera and everybody was left with that look on their face. davis said nothing. he wanted to do a thorough investigation. he stepped up to see how infolded. pretty well, when he dachshund relate put a fire on it that was it scary. cable was done. >> what was that feeling when davis called everybody back and read by down this rant about cable? >> i do not know if it was our ranch. he said early on that he would ask all questions about a timetable but at that point he wanted it to be all about he jackson. how fair it was it that it should have been. when it hit the press conference winding down to get the microphones off of the counter that is when davis said he wanted to answer questions and he will answer questions. >> did that journalists assembled for what it is worth thank the character business on cable was the appropriate tax? >> from the standpoint of the conduct of that sort of issues beating him out the door, pretty much, that is what al davis confirmed. if none of this had ever happened to ntsb and the had come too late and was forthcoming then we would not be having this conversation right now. he sought jackson did. he just loves you jackson. he did what he could to stand behind. cable, that is all up to arbitration right now with the commissioners getting their money back. >> he is now the assistant head coach and line coach of seattle. there's no deal in place. either that or somebody would say " there is elegant ". i am at a big elvis fan. i admire and i has lived a bit. firm up wife beating. al says on one of the road trips that he brought his girlfriend and he is supposed to be concentrating on the game. it was really, davis is brilliant. what a defense attorney. when you are a football owner and disguise the headed the team you have to say that you twitch a bit. anyways, and he got a job today. michaelson military got a job as well. is the linebacker coach officially medicine appeared back a moment. it will save the uplifting stories for the end of the show appeared to have a tough day this material. chris fielder got $1 million to play baseball for one year. good for prints. you come home and the kids are crying. the dogs are barking. your wife is not happy with the period of rebates take a moment to say " hey, good for prince fielder. he got $1 million. he avoided server attrition. 50 million before it chris. he heads of baseball far. >> have a good night, we will look free to add 11:00. i'm leaving "live with regis and kelly." that was regis' surprising announcement today. i'm lara spencer. >> and i'm chris jacobs. "the insider" is on. >> i have one of those announcements to make today. this will be my last year on this show. >> i was surprised it was today. >> kathie lee today on her former co-hosts exit. >> who should replace the legend? is kelly's husband up for the job? >> i wish i could make you change your mind. >> should ricky gervais be banned from hollywood? >> i've heard that some of the celebrities represented have called to say their precenters were uncomfortable. >> plus, brad and angelina's night with michael and catherin

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