Joining us this hour. Super happy to have you here. When you ask questions, it turns out, when things that previously have been done in the dark are forced into the light, that makes stuff happen. Theres something about the effect of sunlight. Theres something about the Public Disclosure of previously secret maneuverings that makes stuff happen. That sets things in motion. You turn on the light. You ever live in an apartment or a house that had bugs . I was once renting an apartment in San Francisco and i had signed the contract. I was ready to move in. And i brought in a friend of mine because i was so excited about this new apartment. I brought my friend over. Lets get . Burritos. We havent moved in yet but i signed the contract were going to move in in the next few days. I showed the place. We walked in. It was nighttime. Turned on the light. Roaches. And they ran for the corners. And i got out of that contract and i did not move into that apartment. But my friend never wanted to go
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named aly what thekins who now works for the times, she previously worked for buzzfeed, she previously worked for politico. again, now she works for the times. and she did not know i guess until recently that the justice department had seized her records, her phone and e-mail records. that s a big deal for anybody. it s a really big deal, and it has really big first amendment implications if they do this to a reporter. continuing from the times, shortly before she began working at the times, fbi agents approached the reporter, aly watkins, seeking information about a previous three-year romantic relationship she had had with james a. wolf, the senate intelligence committee s former director of security. the fbi agents said they were investigating unauthorized leaks. ms. watkins did not answer the agents questions. mr. wolf stopped performing committee work in december. he retired from the committee in may, meaning last month. mr. wolf was not a source of information for ms.
you described, there would have to be some sort of accommodation, there would have to be some sort of negotiation with a media outlet or a reporter before a reporter was surveilled in this way as part of a leak investigation, i ve got my control room needs to stop talking in my ear for a second. thank you very much. sorry, matt. i had two people talking to me at the same time i was trying to talk to you. at the same time as holder if holder put in those rules, obviously we have a different attorney general now. if this was done in violation of d.o.j. policies, if this new york times reporter was surveilled inappropriately, how was that policed within the justice department? it would have to be policed by the inperspective general. there is a loophole the attorney general can use if they determine i think negotiations say if negotiations with the media outlet would pose a substantial threat to the investigation, if it would harm national security. the attorney general can