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kraoeufp and america's god. recent essays include treatment canada, the in 300th anniversary celebration of the king james version of the and catholic uses of scripture in 19th century america. today he will speak on his new book which is available outside seminar in beginning as the word the bible and american public life 1492 to 1783. mark noll. mr. noll: thanks for the opportunity of being here and especially to the woodrow wilson center, american historical association, the national history seminar. to be in ivilege washington on a warm november day. the image on the screen is the english language bible published in north america. aiken had done printing for the continental congress and made with eak was britain where the monopoly for king james bible was held by the king's printers here was an opportunity to publish in english the bible in the united states. will be indicate i couldn't have of the history i will talk about today is the procedure that led to the printing of this bible. robert aiken petitioned congress for permission to publish the bible. the continental congressmen did know what to do in response they did tition, but authorize a committee of two to check the proof a ets to make sure it was completely certified and good representation of what had come from britain. the was a moment looking to past, looking to the future was something quite different. the era of the american became a nearly indispensable resource for anyone who wanted to venture any opinion on the controversies of when y so it was in 1765 john adams published his dissertation on the canon and law in response to the stamp act of that year. e described the tendency of monarchs and priest to abuse ower as a persistent participate of evil and he drew known blical vocabulary o protestants to explain this tendency. he said it personified the man quoting the bible the mystery ofabylon and iniqui iniquity. on march 23, ter riveted the henry virginia delegates at st. john's as they richmond considered whether to join massachusetts in the fight against parliament. speech he said give me liberty or divisive me death included at least 10 istinct bible echos in the 20-clip sentence that preceded the final declaration. 1776 common sense proved convinces colonists problem with british rule was not mistakes of parliament but governance by a king. the heart of his argument was samuel sition of first chapter 8 where the lord god and chastised israel for asking for a king like the nati nations around them. of his argument as scholars have shown quite villagesed many scripture could be posed against monarchical rule. ebuttal followed as you might expect. william smith an anglican paine's wrote about arguments. there was never a greater script clear. the rector of the community church of new york city and anglican bishop of nova scotia said i would have to bible in i believed this republican. , benjamin franklin and thomas jefferson were asked propose images for the new nation coming into existence. here knows neither franklin nor jefferson could be paragonparagons.ox they were not highly regarded by religious establishment of their day yet their proposal for new fficial seal of the united states depicted the ites safe cross of the sea. then there was the same biblical reference to memorialize what place after the revolution. ne of the early hitches otis warren in verse described britain's commercial empire as a g pharoah. i end the new book by suggests in the of the bible revolutiona revolutionarier influenced the the bible to this present day but the book is devoted to longer how a much history going back to the start of the protestant reformation involving a great deal of british history led directly to hat happened in the revolutionary era. for almost of all of clonalial -- colonial history it to view what happened from two angles. it was a british story and it protestant. story. i'm able to speak about three carry away points. first concerning the strong connection between private life.on and public second concerning the thoroughly political role that scripture colonial society. thirds concerning the intriguing script clear escaped the direct force of political pressure. olonial american history was rotestant because almost all col olonists were descends d'antonis who regarded script lears the authority for spiritual lives and every aspect of life in the world. terms,ly in chronological the bible in american history begins with catholics. 1490's christopher olumbus put together a large ompendium of mostly religious esearch aimed at showing isabella and ferdinand that he was god's person for the world.tion of the new his expertise with the bible was considerable. except d like a puritan he took his queues from medieval catholics. dominican who spoke avorably for native americans did the same plumbing the scr t to defend his positions in opposition to much activityanish colonial with native americans. the first archbishop. also will a plan for into ating the bible native languages including a plan that had gone some distance before in the middle decades of he 16th century the spread of protestant attachment to script tightening craft restrictions on dissemination nd translation of the bible into vernacular languages so by the time european settlement catholic north america use of scripture is presents but ighly contained within the institutional hierarchy of the church and story that unfolds in is a erican colonies protestant ndant -- story. of est attendant character early american history leads to the first point. the bible played a very large in american public life but ly y because it so consistent and constantly shaped the many e lives of individuals. with there connection it is bvious where martin luther should be regarded as a hugely important figure in american history. a formrance -- energized of christianity in which the clear became a matter of life and death and a pattern ith great influence wherever protestantism was spread. older and younger martin luther. 1540's d man writing in he detailed the religious breakthrough that occurred in years before.t 30 he reported that he had been erplexed, confused and driven almost to despair by one phrase of paul'sirst chapter epistle to the romans. it the ryder cup god is reveal. he was transfixed because it took it to be an authoritative of how far short sevenful human beings fell from of reich ect standard includesness. hence game his anguished that i hated that word god.eousness of but then he said he reported he xperienced the mercy of god that overcame the one particular passage. gospel meantat the od giving giving his righteousness to needsy sinners as a gift so as he wrote am 1545 i felt i was altogether born again and entered paradise gates. open then came the sentences that experience a aradigm for later lift including the -- history including the american colonies. a totally other faith showed ntire scripture itself to me and i ran through he scriptures from memory and found other terms as an analogy as the work of god, that is what does in us. the power of god with which he makes us strong. god that makes us wise. strength and salvation and glory god. the sacred book which had been a uzzle and obsession and academic challenge and distress to life.e the pathway for luther very soon thereafter also a e became political book when the peasant 1524 and 1525 revolted against the masters and broad sides quoting a bible and martin luther. he responded by saying you have incorrectly, ble you have applied the text wrong fairly seriously cla principle backed the violent crackdown that took lives of the peasants. his connection between a book that was alive in personal spiritual life and used to public policy would continue through the history of 17th n, in the 16th and desire and early american history. i'm passing by a lot of thingsnt and interesting particularly for how the bible came to new england and had such influence on society there. > to the 18th century, the continuing influence of the bible read for personal religion xplains why it always remained ready to hand in the american colonies for public purposes. any number of possible examples to illustrate that elationship here is one particularly telling example. .he year was 1755 fpl sarah osborn a middle aged woman n newport, rhode island published a book perhaps the irst by a woman in colonial america. it was titled "the nature, evidence of true christiani christianity". s documented in a splendid study recently osborn's book to the public what she had written in an unpublished in diaries anded correspondent. engaged d been a fully participant in the colonial upsurge in ing and aith of george whitfield attracted attention. her book fleshed out in practice proceed val preachers sermon.aimed in their it recorded a journey that from despair on sinfulness to grateful trust in god's mercy. the way she described it was characteristic of almost in ything she expressed public. spirits wall rescue came -- came after she in despair as a young widow at random and reads these words from the isaiah. get remember weudz dough haofrd because our maker is our husband and lords of host is his name and redeemer the oly one of israel the gods of the whole earth shall he be called. the same text from isaiah 54 was the text george whitfield in in the summer of 1742 fter a festive scottish communion season. at ds reliably estimated 25,000 to 30,000 hanging on whitfield as he maker is thy husband. she was so born thoroughly immersed in the king hardly anything pass phrase some scriptural or reference. her experience is not necessarily typical. her life history fleshed out in preachers at revival in the bible drenched language of their sermons. in new port leaders society because her religion seems top e bible perfectly fulfilled the ideal of devotion.l she held meetings in her home .nd attracted men and women there were meetings in which black and white people met extraordinary was for the periods. nd in disputes in her local congregational church she and widows were the deciding factors though none of vote because they sa looked to for the sanctitity of their lives. throughout the colonial period idea of personal redemption was a fixed element feature of religion. now shifting attention to the same year sarah osborn published the account of 1755.eligious experience, in order to else straight a second reality about colonial history. is in a word that history was protestant a british story because religious evelopments and most developments not so explicitly eligious took place in the stendom. british chri leap is inative essentially for understanding this earlier history. what has been defined by hit as a society where there are close ties between the church andthe and everyone is assumed to be christian and hristianity provides a common language shared by the devout and religiously newborn. because the colonies represented religion on of that was near the surface of colonial of especially in times crisis with a almost complete interweaving of social and concerns. political in 1755 virginians kwaeuld in their homes because of the of the seven years war in the colonies the french and indians war. july of that year the british braddock ed by edward and virginia militia led by much destroyedon near present day pittsburgh by native americans allied with britain's bit ter enemy. frontier the colonial spetzed to french troops and allies. so at the same time revival perform were deepening attachment to scripture military conflict turned the bible into a servant of empire. as one historian has written french opening of the and indian war with to the paris in 1763 in sermon after sermon new england lifted the british liberty tkpwaepagainst roman ca france. of a ch noted sermons virginia clergy indicates this ontrasting of liberty and tyranny extended far beyond new england. davies delaware born and a presbyterian academy in pennsylvania plays he key role in winning civil rights for his fellow press by anglican es in virginia. determinedderate but promoter of evangelical revival. is advocacy for press by alternatives in -- presbyterians in virginia was successful rallying support against france. beginning in august 1755, one month after the british disaster on the pennsylvania frontier, he began a remarkable series of that gave full scope to his renowned oratory. demonstrated the power usage as he used .he bible to propel threats he did pause to drive home the evangelical imperative as it filled his week by week needs to confess sins and eagerness of christ to repentant sin earnings and true believers. d he revealed a mind bible in the check james to a degree almost unimaginable times. own most salient in the addresses and by a long margin for purposes the identification of virginia and britains with old testament and complete be a sorpbgs protest -- protest attendant theology. all came from the hebrew clears. aim most chapter 3 -- amos 3 here this word you only have i known of all the earth therefore i will punish you for all your iniquities. that do the work of the lord stkaoeft fully and keep sword from blood in seconds samuel 10, 12. be of good currently and play the plan nor our people and the god and lord do that which deem him goods. virginia stories were fighting the bee beleaguered d -- old testament narrative. they heard turning to god hope of rescue almost treasures exclusively in terms of british cronial safety. came into the picture when he filled out the larger meaning of the conflict. and y you will have kearvultur, hungry slaves were poised your religion, religion of jesus in the sacred fountain scriptures the most excellent rational and divine known to themade sons of men. from bibly text to rhetoric. was the spirit patriotism, the best of kings blessing of british hreubtd. on the other sides were the host darknesses and these are all the phrases from these sermons. the eternal enemy of liberties. the power of france. of iless savage, the act indians torture. savages., he maintaining many ied -- angled bodies smoking on the grounds. infernal fury arbitrary power, slavery, tyranny and massacre. oppression and tyranny of power.ary the changes of french slavery. or samuel davies biblical religion came alive. enlisted for an ertzly kingdom. sermons like osborn's personal religion maintained a tradition and d pointed to much that would follow. the first english language bible ith official support was published in 1539 although the called rsion had been the official version this was officially authorized by parliament. this 1539 erers opened -- bible the first thing they saw this showing viii handing script clears regent.ice you can't probably read it but crowds of orders narrow piedmont appear saying god save the king. the title page includes a crowded fields of banners all save the king in latin nd most quote being biblical passages. in 1611 when the king james the title page had a similar passage. moses and aaron were the large -- largest figures to greets. it continued in this era. every advance in bible new stage in very biblical interpretation, every biblical preaching involved scripture in a as well as ory religious story. in other words, to understand so prominent was in the era of the american to lution it is necessary grasp the role it occupied in british politics from the era of because m -- viii and the bibles that akpdz colonist accompanied colonists in america came out of a political came with a strong rotestant position of anti-catholicism. for centuries positive belief that the scriptures were able to make the wise through salvation n christ jesus with be meshed by a negative conviction that catholic corruption of scripture eviscerated true christianity. this combination of foundational commitment, scripture and alvation, scripture and politics, script clear and anti-catholic inch grounded the christian faith in and came d scotland into the revolutionary era and beyond. anti-catholicism of british -- protestant t scripture the bible grew more important as one f the great prizes in imperial conflict and bible grew much less important as merely one of imperial conflict. major development in the colonial history of the bible and many ways the most important a striking counterpoint. in the religion of the revival spread the christianity felt a definite weakening. they stressed an internal change heart. you must be born again led by eorge whitfield and paid more attention to the externals of religious practice than had prote protestant leaders. many leading 18th century active cals were champions of the british empire. message to drive the of biblical salvation deeper -- revivalists led to inadvertent developments. until the era of great awaken african-americans were slow to accept it. first a trickle then a steadies christianity.d one factor shouts from the formerleft by slaves and slaves was the salience of largely separate. population iism led ic evangelical it a deeper influence for mid century. christendom from it brought a much different silenced, t had been ignored or actively enslaved. a number of recent historians have published outstanding works explaining why the era of the reat awaken iing represented a religious watershed for african-americans. whoier angley can ministers worked amongst south america slaves in the first years of the 18th century found his labors planterstly blocked by who feared converted slaves with freedom and their battling against planters who were nervous about his activity slaves himself came and nders about the goals methods he was pursuing and his wonderment came about because of best slave student who began to read and then quoting to his master from joel, 2.apter there would be a dismal time and the moon would be turned into would be death and darkness and before the away.ss went the consequences of such experiences he scaled back his teaching efforts with this conclusion. it had been better if those that the search after curious matters had never seen a book. with the coming of revival changed. the most successful preachers abolitionists. one of the major revivalists attack attacked slavery. many of you know george bake an active promoter of allowing slavery to georgia whi. n their preaching the major revivalists urged throws responding to their sermons to themselves.le for it made no difference who the converts much as with sarah newport. after thunderstorms in taken a presbyterian colleague reported with pleasure hanover countyee churches he oversaw hundreds of besides white people can ead and spell who a few years since didn't know one letter. his pastor said the sacred hours of the sabbath that used frolicking, n dancing are employed in ttending on public ordinances in learning to read at home or praying together and singing the of god and the lamb. public indications by colonial only in the year 1760 in the midst of an empire up in war fever. but when slaves and ex-slaves print they ge of testified to a different fever. one of the first two publications by an was from erican britain hammonds a massachusetts lave who published a short account of his adventures that service capture at sea, in the british navy and other interesting stuff. concluded d pamphlet bo -- blical various virtuosity by mix being the jesus with id and carefully selected quotations psalms.o different this is how he ended the first publication ever by an african-american. now in the providence of that delivered tkaoeuftd of the paw of the lion and bear i'm a long and dreadful worse savages than they and return to my to show great things mahas done let's exalt his name that men with praise goodness and is woman works to the children of men. published work from an african-american or the author drew but not a ptures structures. those he same peubly capital quotation came from a poem from hammond a slave man on long island. t started with salvation repeated 20 more times in the poem and direct use of script specifying the original engi origin. he says salvation comes by jesus christ alone redemption to everyone that love his holy words. is an overflow and transcript clearly phrases describe the gift of salvation. so there is a paraphrase from chapter 6 lord unto whom we shall go. isaiah 55 n echo of everyone that hunger has. psalm 23 salvation be there leading staff. of saufpl 34 our heart and souls to meets again luke chapter 2 glory be to god on high. as with britain hammond's narrative this poem kept its a scriptural on messages of personal salvation overtly n anything military, cultural or political. a rare copy of a later hammond published in honor of phyllis wheatley. to ttle bit of exception this early britain and african-american writing because although phyllis wheatley knew the bible well she wrote about things. she used quite a bit of classical imagery in other poems. the one by jupiter hammond for in the styleley is of some of the older puritan writings. stanza has a biblical reference beside it that clue to some kinds of why hammond thought phyllis was such appear important person for frican-americans and for good list literature and the causes of the century. again the poem is remarkably free.cs so, it continues through the black atlantic with the publication of the works that publishediscussed and new. 1774 a narrative of the most particulars in the narrative of and the lord's wonderful deals with black now going to preach the gospel in november he takes up the american revolution in a half sentence. david george's account of his experience as a slave in outh carolina, a liberated loyalist in nova scotia and pine sierra leon.er in peubly calley s a nfused person who applied standard metaphors. moses.n was the new america was egypt from which he had been liberated. the best known work of the life published in relating his life in the preceding 30 years. counted the bible references more than one a page and again about a half paragraph on the american revolution. poem of wheatley did the pattern deviate but only a lot. of them describe how a word or words of scripture brought life, healing and hope and they shared a great deal ith their white evangelical count parts. the difference was in the bible a african-americans was not bible for british empire. pure, municated spiritual forth imperial power. now a brief conclusion. great collectionity of the in nial area is the bible support of christianity and moving away from the structures f christianity were increasingly important at the same time. it is closer together. for others they moved apart and bond ill others the between christianity and scripture grew stronger and time.r at the same thus, even as colonists the citly took for granted peubly calendar character of many features of british ocieties some were being ly its -- spiritual transfixed. the pairing much the bible for and empire igion continued to shape the history very long e for a time. especially as the bible for the the bible pulses at the heart of the british empire new e the bible for a nation, the bible pulses at the heart of the united states of america. thank you. [applause] get to our discussion section. we have a few ground rules feel is wait until the microphone referrals you before please identify yourself as you talk. e will start over here with steven. >> i'm steven shore. can't help estion i but ask. having denounced the french and during the french and indian war how did many of he same writers respond to t french alliance? was that as problematic for them soviet pact was for communists in 1939? because the necessity dictated this it had although charles english that i quoted will a .ield day after the alliance he maintained the traditional what atholicism to say kind of fraudulent defense of iberty do we have now where supposedly the sons of liberty heve aligned themselves with t --porters of pope shall tier popish tyranny and his argument fraud.t it was a witty, fan of mark knoll. two questions. one about the beginning and one the end. the beginning when you talked the the 1781 approval of continental congress for the edition of the american edition i'm interested in some of the politics there. war se the revolutionary will spent a great deal of time talking about talking about freedom of press againstch and many were licensing of books especially spiritual books and what printers of the american edition of the bibling continental congress. i'm interested about the last use of the lecture and the bible as a narrative of liberty. from the monarchy and slavery. you have a lot of wonderful echos and paraphrases but it speaks firmly about monarchy and slavery. the echos and phrases that the bible provides, what the colonists and early the can revolution narrows hermaneutic to use it as an anti slave ry slavery and anti-catholic document. mr. noll: i believe you supplied word.ight it was a reflex. continental congress didn't ever authorize the bible printing by official act because the rising tide against notions of licensing. it did appoint these two masters to make sure the text was all right. that even as the ounders much the new american nation were shaking off much that they thought represented an british power, the instincts of more than mellinium public and religious life intertwined were difficult to shake. could say is in much of american history that christianity form replaced the formal. he informality would come with the separation of church and state and laws against needing to license religious works but would be other voluntary ways of maintaining that connection. then on the the narratives of mention a i should fine book published by john could have theme ofich traced the scripture to the american civil movement as a powerful set of text not just the the children of israel from egypt but the setting prisoners free and giving sight to the gave reference by being picked up by jesus in the new ame testament. he use of liberation language drawn from the scriptures in the 1760's and 1770's has to be a interested inyone moral reflection and a problem believe e like me that the bible is a direct revelation from god. -- there's very a bible tention to message regarding slavery -- freedom for enslaved from the first decade of 18th 1770.ry until there are four quakers who in 18th ddle decades of the century wrote against slavery drawing heavily on scriptures. sanford and lay who are never studied although the works were benjamin franklin. there is no one that paid attention. however, with the ly nse of liberty political 1772 there 1771, begins to be what would 10 in the united states to be a debate on whether the bible legitimated slavery. first tract published like this it was divided. of slavery in the british caribbean trotted out about abraham the waobook of instructions in paue to slaves obeying masters and said what could be more obvious recognizes le slavery. develville -- granville sharp there was the opposite by the mid 1770's to 1780's a lot of bible oriented libertarian argument against slavery. is a different story that needs to be spun out. matter.was a contested the language of political complicated re because most of the bible use is the early t in illustrations is rhetorical rather than argumentative. tom paine is argumentative but good e. love e passage from peter god and honor the emperor were paine's face as long as they could have access to the printing press and that was the loyalists in 1777 and 1778. workswere however serious on atriots particularly jonathan pter 13, mayhugh had one of the most extensive ones. there much several that came the middle colonies and south saying romans 13 looks blanket christian the emperor, bey the king. but we know that the apostle challenged authority when the authority abused itself. appe an argument. there were arguments from the side. again there was a printing problem for the loyalists. eist st extensive loyal stand fast in hrebt where christ made you free was published by and an maryland jonathan boucher in 1775 and not published until he couldn't because get access to a press in america great to publish in britain. the use of biblical rhetoric sacred aura tous arguments for the revolution, ut that rhetoric was a lot stronger than the arguments for the same. thank you. as someone who is not at all amiliar with religious history or much american history i'm of thennedy i'm director national history center. if you could say a about how you are trying to frame this book and in the larger debates bout the role of the bible and religion in early american your y and where you see arguments that are diverging some others that have been made in recent years nd more generally how that speaks to our contemporary and standing of religion the bible in american politics and american life. enough?hink that's mr. noll: many of us become istorians because we like dealing with dead people that can't speak back. he intervention that i would like to make in this book i try to explain in the preface for particularly interested in religion i help it how thoroughlynse religion was part of the moral framing of the american nation. of the revolutionary years but coming out of a long tradition. just british protest protestants. 18th century. political ideology most accepted.atriots the american presentation of locke. ll of these things came with a biblical dress, by no means was every argument for liberty nor every construction of public biblical language but most of them were. so, for anyone wanting to nderstand anything about the moral dimensions of american some understanding of the bible is required. are -- who honor scriptures not the christian scriptures of which in the e more and more united states and have been since the late 19th century, i lesson book will be a sacred text to a a public space and how not to sacred text to a public space. christian people who have attachment and there are various ways of being attached divine book as a for christian people being book ed to it as a divine i hope there's a very sober ssessment of where scripture as enabled people to act all raue which isically, to act charitily and in some accord biblical principles like made ofade of -- god is all peoples of one race, of one blood. i hope that people who share my belief that the bible is a to heart k will take the mistakes that have been made. was out of control when he went after the french. here may have been an argument for mobilizing virginia against marauding french and indian allies but in the context of the 18thial wars century this was not a situation liberty od and all against all evil and all tyranny. sake the absolutes of a sacred volume to advance temporal means was and problem.a >> if i could follow up on that, the ems to me that revolutionaries in the republic to advance ripture their political cause. you will have loyalists thing.ting to do the same this notion that mistakes are ade, looking back you can say given our views today this was a work but that touch historical. i not hearing something. r. noll: it is certainly not ahistorical to say mistakes were made. hat i take from the revolutionary period is the overwhelming, nearly overwhelm tendency, nearly overwhelming pressure, once a crisis occurs to gather that you are able to side.r to support your and christian people are upposed to have an organization, a priority of, an genda of loyalties in which loyalty to the nation is very important but it is not the loyalty. i do think there actually were examples -- i try to provide as possible in the book -- of people who, while being loyal, kept the rioritization of loyalty somewhere in balance. the i would take away from rhetoric of the seven years war, rhetoric of the american not that some kind religious passivism is putting the ut sacred, putting sacred warrants the purpose of temporal goals is a process fraught with danger the temporal product but more to the religious actors claims. those mistakes were made. s it possible to learn from mistakes? what i think people can learn they istakes is not that should forget about religion when it comes to public life but about ious as possible how religion is applied to the great crises of public life. you.hank >> i'm from the american historical association, retired. i'm curious and maybe it is a little outside the scope of what you are talking about, but if ou compare, say, the english speaking world with the rest of euro it?ope, how different was mr. noll: there is a peubly biblical verlay and rhetoric that is applied in the spanish empires coming from the top down bishops and not always monarchs but officials imperial court. think a difference in the english speaking world balls of prote in anantism because the use of propelled from the lower and middle part of society as above. i spent a the will of time in england's and 1650's in because that when earnest bible opportunity to apply the norm and were unable because they were conflicting with themselves but in the ending because of the of restrictions on what could be published you get signal works -- like r williams roger williams's plea for freedom that nobody else ever paid attention to almosthe 1770's and then nobody paid attention to until the 1970's. influential but it was indicative and his argument the puritan effort to con train people -- constrain people to live by the bible the bible teachings. so that was different in that rgument using the authority of scripture were coming from every place on the political spectrum the social ace in spectrum. nd then it is not like in the 19th century where anyone with a little money and access to a publish press can anything but in the colonies you ear from more and more nonauthorized voices trying to xplain to the public how the bible should be interpreted. these early quakers that i entioned are really very interesting people. they are quite they are quite eccentric. one of them began to reenact some of the quaker early days of disrupting services. he given a quaker service with a book, a bible. ofsecreted a bladder full the juice and said to the quakers, "you are killing the scriptures balance.." -- you are killing the scriptures." no one paid attention. it was very much a voice from ofow powered by the notion the protestant ideal has not really worked out very well in practice until you get to the 19th century. >> [inaudible] noll: the christendom of catholic and protestant places meant that there was a lot of expression in public places of the bible. >> thank you. the gentleman of here. candidate atoral the university of maryland in early american history. i think the question about what the intervention is is probably a good question, especially for people who are maybe not real first in history. since i'm a graduate student, i could summarize several hundred years of history, since that is what we do. if i could clarify, especially for people that are less first, what i think you are saying -- your intervention is a little bit in the lines of this sort of narrative that we know people are pretty religious and theerned about the bible in 1600s, particularly in new england, and then it is starting to go downhill, maybe the great awakening, which some people do not necessarily believe happened, and it stems the tide temporarily. by the revolution, people are not concerned about religion anymore. i think that what you're saying is that it is more complicated than that, and particularly by paine's work, you're saying there is a vocabulary out there, and the bible resonates for good reason. i think you are sort of joining other people who are now challenging the narrative. james byrd's book comes to mind. is that fair to say? that you are complicating the narrative and saying it still is important by the time of the revolution? mr. noll: the reference is to james byrd. he did a lot of traveling through published and unpublished things. there is no comparison references, authoritative references to older literature, scripture. there is no comparison. daniel to respond-- the book by aaron shalev, "american zion," carries the story into the 19th century. showing that, particularly for the force three or four decades of early national history, the image of the united states of the new israel is everywhere. not quite everywhere, but almost everywhere. for contemporary purposes, this very good scholarship poses a question, more than it answers it. it poses the question, what should be thought about a national history in which sacred text, christian sacred text, played such an important role? i think i would like to take pause and think about an answer before responding. is a good thing from a christian angle that there is a lot of bible or a bad thing? because of when there was so much abuse of the bible. is a good thing from a secular point of view that moral values remain prominent in public life? it was not just the market, it was not just personal satisfaction. it was some kind of moral language inflected in public debate in the united states. so, there are glib references to christian america, or glib references to the "godless constitutional" era do not cut it. >> thank you. we will go with amanda. amanda: amanda from the national history center. you said he wanted to think about the question of whether or not it is a good thing that christianity is a part of the national history. before you ask that question, do you need to ask whether the bible is part of, whether it is a national history, or is the history of the bible a transnational history, a transatlantic history? american religious activity and knowledge and communities were heavily transatlantic. >> that's a good question. the bible in american public life, you go to 150 before you get to it. is important for understanding american history that the christian bible, and later other scriptures, were very important. it is important for the history of the bible to realize that this is never a strictly national story. robert aitken's bible is the first english label bible completely published in north america. star several german link which additions, from christopher sauer in eastern pennsylvania from the 1760's. that brought to the colonial british empire not just text, but also debate on how text should be used and printed from the central part of europe, which is not part of germany. and then, the translation of the bible into the indian languages, the first complete bible published in north america. that is also a story that certainly has, what we would say today, mexican, canadian, and american resonance. then, you get to the beginning of the globalization of the christian faith. the story of the bible today is far, far more than just an american story. over here? >> hi, can you talk actually more about how african americans read the bible? they were interested in it as salvation from empire. are you saying this is part of spiritual life, but not public life? their anti-slavery entities in these debates, or even empire debates, when each side was trying to win african americans. to the extent that sometimes public sources could potentially be misleading compared to what people as a whole thought, is there any way to get at that? mr. noll: i'm glad you mentioned that. this is very deliberately part of the way the public uses the history of the bible. this book was supposed to be a 75 page introduction to the 19th century. it just grew and grew and grew. it is 300 pages. it is still only the public use or virtually only, whereas the african-american story, all of the different strands are more than public stories. in the mid 19th century, you have print from african-americans that is exceptional for being mostly nonpolitical. actually, most of it is not arguing about slavery. equiano has a few paragraphs. the first african-american full-scale attack on slavery came relatively late in the 1780's, 1790's. there's a publication by daniel coker in the early 19th century. it is later went public african american use of the bible takes on the explicit argument for or against slavery. i think what is obvious from what is published early on is that life for in slave people -- enslaved people set up some for being open to a message of spiritual liberation. for some, that message does not stop with spiritual liberation. in the 1760's, they remain slaves. but, it was clear that there was not just these of the bible, but a personal voice to push against slavery. he was purchased by a boston order in 1771. -- owner in 1771. she learns to read the bible, but she is an effective voice for what you might call a bill of sized consciousness-- biblicized consciousness in the movement against slavery. early on, this is mostly english quakers and evangelical church anglicans who publicly attack slavery. benjamin rush is a figure who is hard to place religiously. he is all over the map. he is one of the first american to makes a biblical antislavery case in 1772. >> don? all the way in the back. we'll get to you. don: i'm don wilkinsburg or with the woken center-- wilkin's center. in the run-up to the revolution, does the record show sermons delivered by the church of england in the u.s.. was very uniform take on how the bible was being interpreted as america prepared for more antirevolutionary rhetoric? mr. noll: >> minsitries from england tended to be conventional loyalists who encouraged loyalty to the monarchy. there were anglican ministers. jacob duchenne was chaplain of the continental congress, and he preached sermons that looked like he was a patriot. once the british occupied philadelphia, in 1777, he went back to britain. in it up as a loyalist exile--he ended up as a loyalist exile. there are ministers who supported the patriot cause or were neutral. it should be obvious, the stream and thomas jefferson, there were a lot of anglican leaders who did not think anything of the loyalist argument. interestingly, the division in britain did probably fall closer along denominational lines. most anglicans in britain supported the king. many congregationalists, presbyterians, activists, leaned in the other direction. there were english anglicans who urged parliament to be more conciliatory toward the colonies. there were some who thought the monarchy was acting correctly in trying to put down the rebellion. >> and now jim? jim: james banner. you made a distinction in passing that i would like you to pursue. as a skeptic, i have to be deeply troubled by the application of any sacred text to public affairs, whether the koran or the bible. what is puzzling to me is how i interpret the application of the bible to public affairs, whether sincere or advantageous. you make a distinct which -- disagreements between rhetorical and argumentative application. can you tell us what you mean by that? it may help me not as a historian, but as someone living in our day and age. mr. noll: i hope it helps you first as a historian. this is one of the clearest distinctions to be found, not just in the revolutionary period. but most of the 18th century. rhetoric, i mean the use of biblical allusions and analogies and examples, applied to the current situation. i would call the sermon that i quoted from samuel davies rhetorical. the text, wherever it was, from first samuel is pretty hard to apalan anti-french, anti-people message out of it. davies said that our position was like the children of israel who are threatened by their enemies. they trusted in the lord, and so should we. are united in text,-- argumentative text, beginning in the 1750's, when colonial ministers try to explain why, that categorical imperative, the powers that be ordained by god, if you disobey the monarch, your disobeying god. why should that passage not be considered categorical and universal? there were some arguments toward learned people of the past. those types of performances were not as common as analogy, example, typology, but did take place during the mid-1760's on into the 1770's. some of the best arguments, in terms of skillful deployment of reason, learning, had to do with whether a bishop was necessary for a well-running church. this is probably 50 years old. he explains that there was really a good theological reasoning about how to interpret the new testament in particular, with respect to the bishops. were they necessary? if so, it was prejudiced that kept the colonists for receiving an anglican bishop. if not, it made more sense to think of the anglican angle to be a political ploy to get more top-down power. these tracks on that subject tended to be a lot less dependent on mere invocation of bible language. does that do anything for a skeptic? i don't know. you have to look, for example, at the sermons of jonathan bucher, who argues for the sinfulness of rebelling against your rightful emperor. i am not sure a skeptic would be necessarily swayed by the argument. they are made under the assumption that the bible as a determinative of authority and is the duty of christian people to discover what that authority is. no one could make a judgement about who is making a sound art event without applying it to themselves. i sternly haven't found this in american situations, even for people referencing cato and john locke. you don't get a lot of straightforward political argument where the bible is introduced that does not make more of a rhetorical man and expository case-- than an expository case. this did generate an enormous amount of counterargument. most of this, i would not recommend to a skeptic. but there were a few pieces that were not too bad. >> we are coming to the end of our time here. any final comments or questions? it is right behind you. stephen: stephen shore. i'm curious with roman catholic opinion was as the revolution approached, both in the colonies and in the u.k.? mr. noll: at most 25,000 catholics in what become the united states and the wealthier families in maryland that were catholic tended to move in the patriotic direction. the question about what happens when there is an alliance in france, it does implicate some colonial catholics. the colonial alliance in france proved that this breakaway movement is morally bankrupt. in the colonies, it is a little different. new england, people who took part in the american invasion of canada under benedict arnold, who actually came back from new france, felt a little better about what being counted. that experience of the invaders actually cushioned some of the anti-catholicism, leading to the first recognized catholic congregation in boston in 1789 and 7090. -- in 1789 and 1790. the anti-catholic ideology was still there. but when real catholics showed up on the ground, things were a little less strident. i would say that the language and argumentative edge -- it becomes anti-papal, the pope as an exemplary of top-down tyranny. very little discussion of transubstantiation or the virgin mary. there's more focus on the abuse of power, as in john adams. >> think you to the audience. thank you to mark noll. [applause] >> every weekend on american programsv, 48 hours of and events that tell our nation's story. this afternoon at 2:00 eastern, on theans and authors black power movement in the united states and an organizer power revolution party. charles cobb.d by >> still recalls the citizens movement and apprenticeships in struggle, and i think he was about right in that matter where you come out five years later -- i mean, stokely eventually moves to africa, embraces pan african socialism. other people embrace the democratic arty. >> at 8:00, elizabeth gray on the 19thf opium in century and public opinion of its abuse by men and women. >> the attitude toward women tricking at the time was that this was very inappropriate, that a woman should not drink. be would lot number something she could look to as an alternative? thatnday at 10:00, we look to the 2000 campaign of al gore as he tours the state of new hampshire. >> for the last six and a half years, you have seen new hampshire change from a time when you were losing 10,000 jobs a year to a time now where you are gaining 12,000 jobs a year, and that is partly because we fiscal responsibility president clinton and i put in place an economic plan that has balanced the budget and turned the biggest deficit into the biggest surplus. >> al gore went on to win the democratic nomination but lost the presidential race to george bush in one of america's most highly contested elections. >> next on american artifacts, we'd tour colonial williamsburg. a historical interpreter brings us through the house and gives us the story of the governor and his family who fled on the eve of the american revolution. >> i one of the curators of textiles and historic interiors here at colonial williamsburg foundation. i work with not only our textile and quilts and needlework exhibition. right now we are at the governor's palace. it would have been the symbol of power and authority for the british crown and it would have represented power to the columnists of virginia. -- the colonists of virginia. the building was the home of seven royal governors including alexander foxwood.
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"action news" reporter dann cuellar has been following this story for us. he'll have more in a live report at 5:00. more than a dozen suspected child predators are now off the streets thanks to a two week long sting across four counties. "action news" chad pradelli rode along with kathleen kane and other fishes today for one of the raids. this one in essington delaware county. arrests were made in bucks montgomery and philadelphia counties as well and chad will have more on today's raid and the results of this week's long effort. that's coming up tonight at 5:00. >> the flyers are now looking for a new head coach after news broke today that many fans say they saw coming. craig berube is out and that means the team will get its tenth head coach in just two decades. jaime apody live at the sports center with what's next for the flyers. lots of questions. >> that's for sure brian. this wasn't exactly unexpected as you said it's happened a lot in the last 20 years. on wednesday flyers gm ron hextall said he didn't want to make a hasty decision when it came to berube's fate. this morning he handed him his walking papers. he replaced peter laviolette. he had one year remaining on his contract but his team most definitely had under performed. chief has been with the organization as a coach in some capacity since 2004 and of course he was a player here for six seasons back in the 80's. now the search for a new coach begins immediately. it's interesting to point out berube was not hextall's hire he was inherited from paul holmgren. this will be hextall's first big move as gm and he explained why he made the call he did. >> well, i think the message obviously that this wasn't good enough when we don't get the most out of people, it's not accepted here and that's -- again we all have fault in this. craig is the one obviously who took the hit here but we all have fault and certainly the players a certain amount of fault that lays with them. >> hextall didn't consult the players for this move. he says he hopes to hire someone by the nhl draft which is in late june. he says he'll look everywhere and he also added it was a tough decision to fire somebody that he considers his long time friend. of course we'll have much more coming up all day long in sports later on "action news." live in the sports center, jaime apody. back to you. >> time for the first check of that accuweather forecast for your weekend. >> let's head outside meteorologist cecily tynan tracking summer-like weather for part of the weekend. >> that's right, brian and monica summer-like for the first half of the weekends and then feeling more like spring by sunday. today, though we started off the day with showers. satellite6 along with action radar showing at 6 o'clock this morning we had some pretty steady showers for the morning commute but they moved off just as expected and this afternoon we are seeing some brightening of the skies, some peeks of sunshine. if you look there in baltimore, though, there are a few pop-up showers so i can't completely rule out the possibility of an isolated pop-up shower this evening but generally we'll be dry. right now, though, it's warm and it's definitely on the humid side. 74 degrees in philadelphia with winds out of the south millville 73 reading and allentown 71. cooler at the shore but still temperatures in the 60's and in sea isle on the boardwalk in atlantic city. so, it's a friday night or actually it's a friday afternoon but for the friday evening at 7 o'clock 70 degrees, partly cloudy with again an isolated shower possible. 8 o'clock 68 degrees. by 9 o'clock 65 and by 10 o'clock, still pretty mild, 64 degrees so all you really need is a light jacket and temperatures right now show that there's warmer air to the south. washington, d.c. 78 degrees. we tap into that tomorrow before cooler weather returns for sunday and then i'm tracking a soaking rain early next week. i'll talk about that in the full accuweather forecast, brian. >> all right, cecily see you shortly. thank you. want to take you to wall street where the market has had a disastrous end to the week. red arrows across-the-board. the dow down about 280 points something of a recovery, it was down more than 350 points at one time today. nasdaq off about 76 points, the s & p down 25 points on the day. here's why. that drop followed the decline across markets worldwide. week equities fell sharply raising new concerns in europe for the country's if this future and new trading regulations in china sparked worry for asians investors. bad news in pennsylvania as well. the state's unemployment rate went up in march. that's the third straight month it has race 10. according to the state department of labor the unemployment rate hit 5.3 percent in march that's up a tenth of a percent from february. officials say the number of jobs dropped and the number of job seekers went up in march. the most jobs were lost in the education and health services sectors. construction showed the biggest gains. >> a man pleaded not guilty in ohio today after he was charged with supporting terrorism and supporting a terrorist group. the fbi claims he disappeared on his way from ohio to greece on a one way ticket last year. they say on a layover in turkey he just disappeared into syria and joined a branch of al-qaeda. >> mr. mohammed had plans to and did travel to syria. he received terrorism training there on weapons combat and tactics. his intent for the united states was to kill americans. >> authorities say they had been tracking the man ever since he returned to the u.s. last june. his mother and sister were in court as well today as they a sign of support. they had no comment to reporters. >> a carneys point man was railroad evident from stealing from residents at the assisted living facility where he worked. 60-year-old richard wisher was a maintenance worker at the lindsey house in pennsville. according to police he stole several personal checks then forged them and cashed them at two separate banks. in all those checks total nearly $18,000. he's being held on $25,000 bail. >> montgomery county officials insured folks they're prepared to respond to any potential railroad oil spill. an estimated 60 to 80 oil trains carrying more than a million gallons of crude oil pass through the delaware valley every week. federal government predicts those trains hauling the crude oil will on average derail 10 times a year nationwide, possibly causing billions of dollars in damage or potentially resulting in hundreds of deaths. county officials say they have taken the necessary steps to minimize that risk. >> no matter where the emergency happens, we know how to coordinate, we are communicating and we have the assets to bring to bear to deal with whatever challenges may arise. >> more than a dozen cars carrying crude have derailed in our area this year. fortunately, though, they did not leak or catch on fire. >> time now for the look at the "action news" traffic report today. >> all right, let's take it live to matt pelman see what's up on friday in the "action news" traffic center. >> happy friday to you guys. now we're just trying to make it home and so many people want to get home or head out for the weekend or want to enjoy the nice afternoon, i don't know, but there are a ton of them on the roadway. eastbound 76 is not moving so well the whole way from 202 through this point at conshohocken in toward belmont we also had an earlier broken down vehicle that got us off to a bad start this morning many this afternoon. light traffic volume minutes to get east from the blue route into the vine. ideally that would be 14 minutes. plenty of slowing on 95 as well especially from pens landing to bridge street. in tacony a fire location this afternoon along state road between princeton and cottman. also a police investigation of an earlier accident in north philadelphia at 19th and diamond and a crash in pennsauken to avoid along 130 near garfield avenue. there's some downed wires in doylestown this afternoon along swamp road at york road. that's a good spot to steer of. in east greenwich a wreck along kings highway and if you're headed into south jersey by the delaware memorial bridge expect big delays along the northbound side of 295 just 12 miles per hour coming out of new castle because of a crash on the bridge. let's grab the ipad do the commuter report on this finally friday afternoon and sounds like it's going to be a beautiful weekend so if you're headed down the shore, so far so good on the a.c. expressway, garden state parkway. let's see what we have cooking on absecon boulevard. a pothole on the road. that's no surprise. we'll check it again brian and monica in the next half hour. >> 'tis the season. that's right. >> much more ahead on "action news" at 4:00. pope francis could be adding onto his trip in the u.s. the stop in the caribbean he might be making either before or after his visit to philadelphia. >> but first that volunteer deputy in oklahoma facing manslaughter after he says he accidentally shot a suspect. he's now speaking out. a statement of self-defense next. so i'm working from home. i get on a video conference. with 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deadly incident caught on camera. he says he thought he was using a stun gun to subdue a suspect but instead he took out a real gun. allegations surfaced that he was not properly trained to carry that weapon. now he's coming out in his own did he first. for more we turn to abc's marci gonzalez live with the details in new york city. hi, marcy. >> reporter: hi, brian. robert bates defended himself saying confusing a taser and a gun could happen to anyone calling this the thing he regrets the most in life: for the first time since robert bates says he accidentally fired his gun instead of his taser killing unarmed suspect eric harris, the 73-year-old is speaking publicly. on nbc's today show bates denied allegations that he was not fully trained or certified to handle his weapons. >> that is not correct. i have a written piece of paper to say i had done a good job. >> reporter: the claim coming from the tulsa world newspaper which cites unnamed sources in reporting the department falsified training records including firearms certification and that supervisors were transferred after refusing to sign off. >> there are people who have been concerned about deputy bates and his lack of training for quite awhile. >> reporter: the sheriff's department insists he completed all required training. though the tulsa county sheriff acknowledged on a radio show this week bates records are incomplete after one of his trainers left for the secret service. >> we can't find the records that she supposedly turned in. >> reporter: today bates also denied that his friendship with the sheriff and his extensive donations to the department had anything to do with why an insurance executive was allowed to take part in a high risk undercover sting. and bates is charged with second degree manslaughter. eric harris family now asking the fbi to investigate. marries gonzalez channel6 "action news." >> pope francis a reportedly considering a type their up to cube bat. the vatican says the pope may add onto his trip to this area with a trip to havana. the pope played a key role in reestablishing diplomatic relations between cuba and the u.s. officials say discussion in the early phase and there's no firm decision yet. meanwhile one of america catholic leaders has died. cardinal francis george succumbed after a long battle with cancer. he appointed by pope john paul ii in 1997 and retired in 2014. he was 78 years old. >> former arkansas governor mike huckabee says he'll announce his candidacy for president very soon. it's not clear when that announcement will come but possibly as soon as today. huckabee made an unsuccessful run for the republican nomination back in 2008. in recent months he ended his television and radio commitments opening himself up to a potential run. huckabee would join senators ted cruz rapid paul and marco rubio in the republican race. right now there are only declared democratic opponent is former secretary of state hillary clinton. >> jobs at a local community college today. tore the advanced manufacturing training center in bristol. he also discussed the importance of creating jobs and rebuilding the middle class. visit was part of wolf's jobs that pay tour. the governor's plan calls for cutting the corporate net income tax in half and putting more money into job training. >> a five star hotel so how about five star hospitals. that's how the government says it will rate facilities across the country. medicare looks at 11 aspects of patient experience from admission to discharge. they include how well doctors communicate with patients and overall patient treatment. one star is the worst rating, of course five stars is the best. only about 7 percent of all hospitals scored that highest five star rating. a bryn mawr business is now home to an artifact many regard as a sacred piece of steel. members of the new york city fire department presented norman carpet one with this shadow box containing steel from the world trade center and ground zero. the gift was a show of gratitude for norman's support tour a program that builds especially designed houses for soldiers who were catastrophically injured in war. norman carpet one has donated carpet to 46 of those houses so far. >> terrific. let's see if the accuweather forecast is looking terrific as we approach the weekend. >> i think it is. cecily tynan standing by with some pretty good news cecily. >> it certainly s the weekend will be beautiful. storm tracker six live double scan showing the showers from this morning have left the region but we do have a few pockets of some light shower activity popping up in chester county right now. these are air mass showers. they really just evolve out of the fact that we have an unstable air mass. you can see one right now near chatham, route 41, another one south of oxford. this is heading towards delaware and we will see a few spotty showers this evening but most of the region will be rain free. as far as the rain this morning, calling for a tenth of an tinge a third of an inch. philadelphia .15 millville .32 and atlantic city just under a quarter inch of rain this morning. now temperatures are definitely mild. 74 degrees another day in the 70's. fourth day this week with temperatures in the 70's, also on the muggy side. in wilmington 73, allentown 71 millville 73. and along the beaches with this wind out of the south off the ocean quite a bit cooler. satellite6 showing we're seeing some breaks in the clouds, some brightening of the skies. if you look west of pittsburgh there's clearing and that's from high pressure. this bubble of high pressure that will be right over us tomorrow and that will bring us plenty of sunshine and warm conditions and tonight pretty mild. partly cloudy, a few spotty showers this evening 55 degrees in philadelphia, 47 in allentown and in trenton 52. millville 50 and cape may 52 degrees. and future tracker showing by 10 o'clock tomorrow morning heading to the soccer games the baseball games temperatures already in the 60's. 66 degrees in philadelphia. that's warmer than a normal high for this time of the year and by the afternoon, first time we've seen this this year, temperatures climbing up into the upper 70's. taste of summer. if this is a little too warm for you too early don't worry we'll drop down to more seasonable levels on sunday. something that won't be dropping though the pollen levels. if you have allergies i know you have been suffering and unfortunately the pollen stays high right through the weekend. it will be dropping to medium high levels on monday as some rain moves in and kind of washes the pollen out of the air. so, the four day at 4:00 showing tomorrow sunny and spectacular. the warmest day so far this year 78 degrees. a cold front moves through on saturday night with a little bit of cloud cover and wind shifts out of the northwest behind that on sunday. that will drop us down to 64 degrees. sunshine with some high thin clouds. good weather for the union game but by sunday night and through the day on monday, we're looking at a soaking rain. windy conditions. pretty miserable start to the work week. 61 degrees. so, on the cool side. the good news is it's a one day event. by tuesday the sunshine is back with a high of 71 degrees and certainly a good time to remind our viewers to put the sunscreen on this weekend. both days you will need it. >> absolutely. >> thanks. >> cecily thanks. >> we have breaking news right now. more questions than answers after delaware county authorities found a body on tinicum island. it was found this afternoon by a philadelphia police marine unit. now, this is the scene chopper live there and philadelphia police were notified as well as delaware county and tinicum police. so, all the groups are investigating. we don't know if it's a male or a female but a body was found on tinicum island in tinicum delaware county and officials are on the scene recovering that body and trying to 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(female announcer) cash4life from the pennsylvania lottery. play for fun. cash for life. >> ♪♪ >> peco employees helped some historic sites in philadelphia look good as new today. more than 20 workers volunteered to clean up areas around the historic section of the city including the betsy ross house and franklin square. volunteers planted flowers cleaned the mini golf course and put together story telling flags. today's event helped celebrate national volunteer week. >> nice work. also today 6abc teamed up with temple university to celebrate some of the best and brightest high school students graduating this year. it's our annual best of class event. more than 200 high school valedictorians from the tri-state area treated to a day of food fun and college prep at temple university. take a look. our own matt o'donnell and tam at a were there to talk to the students and hear their plans for the future and you can see a full list of today's honorees on our web site 6abc.com. plus matt and tam will host our annual half hour special called the best of the class. it is saturday may 16th at 7:00 p.m. right here on 6abc. always so impressive those young ones. >> no question. you always get that song stuck in your head too the theme song. still ahead here the news continues from free arcade games alfresco to free national park admission. we've got some deals to get you outside this weekend on freebie friday. >> gorgeous. plus a california school official under fire for saying that one race of students needs air conditioning more than another race. why she does not think there's anything wrong with her comments ahead. >> and later clint had born didn't want to be famous all he wanted to do was get out of the back seat of his daughter's car. trust us, you're going to want to see this one. >> ♪♪ >> "action news" continues with meteorologist adam joseph, alicia vitarelli shirleen allicott and brian taff. >> hello again. it's 4:30 and "action news" continues with the investigation into an 80-foot fall that killed a construction worker in university city this morning. >> plus, a midair melt down leads to an early touchdown. a traveler attacks her seat mate with a pen forcing the pilot to make an emergency landing. what passengers say set that woman off. >> and last year a missouri woman faked coming in third place at the saint louis marathon. this year she faked coming in first. how she cheated and what tipped officials off. >> but we're going to begin now with a start to a travel nightmare for commuters at chester county. after that it is weekend bridge used by thousands of drivers every day will be out of commission until 2016. "action news" reporter vernon odom live now at valley forge road bridge. vern you've got the details on this one. >> reporter: good evening, i'm live on route 23, a major connecting highway between chester and montgomerys. as you take a look out it at this hour on friday night bear in mind it could look like a parking lot here by this time on monday. a busy friday afternoon on route 23. at the landmark valley forge road bridge over the pickerring creek. 20,000 motorists use this highway every day. the bridge is in bad shape. it has to be torn down and replaced. monday morning penndot will shut it down and rebuild through the end of the year. >> take the entire bridge deck off. there's the steel beams will be removed and replaced. concrete is falling which means broken concrete, heavy rust on the beam, section loss and so it's a major overhaul estimated at about $1.8 million. >> reporter: there will be detour routes to already congested roads. route 422 to oaks, egypt towed route 29 to bridge street through phoenixville. those who use and live off this section of route 23 know congestion and slow downs are coming. >> it's going to be a nightmare because it's the way to get to the king of prussia mall, it's the way to get to valley forge. it's just going to be a nightmare. >> there's many ways to go. but i mean it's -- remember that accident that happened? i don't think we want that here. >> reporter: you can live with it. >> yeah, i can live with it. >> reporter: valley forge road between phoenixville and valley forge will be closed between more hall drive and mcavoy lane until the end of the year. speaking of as the lady said living with it penndot estimates it will take less than a moo for motorists to make adjustments in their travel plans. live in schuylkill township, vernon odom channel6 "action news." >> thank you vern. authorities are trying to determine how a construction worker foal his death in university city this morning. it happened at the site of the future evo at cira center south. it's an apartment complex at 29th and chestnut. about 8:00 a.m. police say a 42-year-old man tumbled 80 feet. he was pronounced dead at presbyterian hospital. a young man had to be cut out of his car after this accident on i-95 in new castle. it happened in the southbound lanes near churchman's marsh about noon. "action news" was there as emergency crews freed that man believed to be in his 20's. he was rushed to christiana hospital to be treated for a head injury. information on his condition and exactly what caused the wreck have not been released. >> a 24-year-old man is out of the hospital today after being shot by philadelphia police last night. officers say they were responding to a call about shots fired on the 5200 block of akron street just before midnight. when they arrived they spotted a large crowd fighting. one man immediately took off on his bicycle when he saw officers. when they followed he allegedly pointed a gun at them. an officer fired a shot hitting the suspect in the leg. police recovered another gun before rushing the man to albert einstein hospital. he has since been treated and released to police. a group of volunteers gathered to clean up a delaware little league complex after vandals struck earlier this week. state police said the bandits broke into the north wilmington location thursday morning flipping over garbage cans and portable restrooms and damaging a trailer used for holding concession stand items. police discovered the incident after finding the namaans little league field maintenance tractor parked in the middle of mount lebanon road. the suspects appeared to have driven the tractor until it ran out of gas. anyone with information about this is asked to call the police. >> an historic discovery is bringing hundreds of guests to a high school in delaware today. middletown high unveiled an historical marker and a reflection bench on the very spot where a stop along the underground railroad used to be located. 200 dignitaries and others came to celebrate this forgotten site and to hear inspirational messages. senior student megan marcio discovered the school was on the former hunn farm. >> a mother and her boyfriend are now charged with murder of the woman's two-year-old son in delaware county. the story is developing right now. "action news" anchor rick williams live in the news room with what we're learning about this. >> brian thank you, that's right. the delaware county district attorney announced murder charges today. police say the child died as a result of injuries he sustained while in the care of his mother's boyfriend. dan gel grafton and shannon matthews facing several charges. mason hunt was found unresponsive in his norwood home back in february. at 5:00 we're live with watt what happened to the little boy and the new charges. good news about that measles outbreak out west that sparked a nationwide debate about vaccinations. some of the stories we're following for you when you when we see you in just a little bit on "action news" at 5:00. until then back to you in the studio. >> let's bring in meteorologist cecily tynan because she's got wonderful news about the weekend. >> exactly. everyone is happy because it's the weekend. but when it's the weekend and the weather is beautiful that put you over the top. penn's landing where you can see we have the clouds upstairs but also some breaks in the clouds and temperatures on the warm side, 74 degrees. you step outside, it may feel a little bit muggy to you but dewpoints still in the 50's. 57 degrees, that's a relatively dry air mass but our air has been drier than that. so, that's why it does get a little bit muggy. winds right now out of the west-southwest at 9 miles an hour pressure pretty high. atlantic city a lot of folks out and about on the boardwalk taking a walk. it is cooler, 59 degrees with those winds out of the south at 14 miles an hour. the wind is off the ocean. the ocean temperature is 49 degrees so that really cools things off. i do want to show double scan live and show you the one area where we are seeing some showers. this is chester county, working into oxford just west of oxford i should say across 272, also south of chadds ford across route one 41 degrees. a few isolated showers. one heading towards wilmington. i'll talk about when everything dries out and a wet start to the work week and details on the weekend temperatures in the accuweather forecast. >> lots to talk about. thanks very much. dozens of youngsters in camden are on the path to a very bright future. "action news" was at the leap academy university charter school where 83 kindergarteners and first graders were inducted into the future scholars program. that means as long as they maintain good academic standing throughout their school years they'll get a scholarship to college. family members cheered them on as they were officially welcomed into that program. for nearly 40 years the cathedral kitchen has been serving meals. dozens of people gathered at that new location which is next year to the cathedral kitchen. this new spot offers a different kind of culinary experience. the food cooked right on the premises and is served at a dining table. >> very nice. stale head from free park admission to free outdoor arcade games today's edition of freebie friday is all about getting you outside. >> california school official under fire for saying certain students don't need air conditioning. find out why she said that and why she's not backing down. >> later we know seat belts save lives but did you know they also could create instant internet super stars. why this man from maine is making a lot of folks laugh. >> and that guy's got a great sense of humor. you've got to see it. meteorologist cecily tynan is back with that full accuweather forecast. >> hello. >> "action news" continues right after this. . >> ♪♪ >> air raids got a southwest airline passenger booted off a flight. >> my arm hurt because i was being stabbed by a pen. >> well, that makes sense. he woke up from a pretakeoff snooze on a flight from chicago to the woman sitting next to him poking him with a pen. other passengers say the woman was apparently set off by the man's loud snoring. >> she just went nuts and started stabbing him with a pen. he started screaming loud almost like a little girl. >> that's unnecessary. the perturbed passenger was escorted off. the flight was delayed for two hours before finally making it to its destination in new hampshire. the man had a few bruises. he says he doesn't plan on pressing any charges. the woman was allowed on a later flight. poor guy. a group of florida teenagers is facing charges for taking a forklift on a joyride. this is the surveillance video showing those boys doing doughnuts around a property owned by a plumbing company. the teens made sure to mask their faces with their t-shirts and hide their fingerprints with makeshift plastic gloves. the problem though they forgot to disable the alarm system so police cat up with the group are a rather quickly. >> a washington state man says he is still in shock after discover that a little boy his sister asked him to babysit was actually the victim of a violent kidnapping. john tong says his sibling stopped by his home and asked if he could watch her boyfriend's two-year-old son. although he had never met the child tong and his wife agreed to keep him overnight. the couple did not see the amber alert until tong checked his facebook feed the next morning. >> it looks like this child in my bed. i was like oh, my god. >> probably one of the craziest things i've ever heard. >> turns out the little boy's grandmother ann tong's sister abducted both the child and the child's mother. the mother managed to escape and called police and that led to the amber alert. tong says he is not sure why his sister was involved. he's just happy he was able to save that toddler. topping health check at 4:00 puppy dog eyes. if you feel powerless to resist your pet when they gaze at you don't worry turns out there's a scientific reason. according to a report in science weekly when a dog stairs longly and lovingly at its owner both the dog and the owner get a boost in their oxytocin levels. it's the same feel good chemical release had had a mother bonds with her baby during breastfeeding. researchers believe the hormone associated with nurturing and attachment explains why human-dog bonds are so strong. more interesting they discovered wolves don't make eye contact for the same reason that dogs do. wolves apparently do not want to bond with people. >> gaze into my eyes. over here at the big board the big talkers today and we're going to start with a comment that's got a school board member in california facing all kinds of heat and it stems from what she said at a meeting about which schools should get air conditioning. a predominantly white one or a predominantly latino one. >> i would say 95 percent of the students the at&t at las juntas do not have air conditioning in their homes. >> yeah, she said that. those are alleged to have been the words of denise elsken at a meeting in which board members were deciding to how to allocate funds. parents at the latino school are outraged by what she said. she isn't backing down. she says her statement "wasn't discriminatory, it was fairly factual. now to missouri where the women's winner of this year's go saint louis marathon was disqualified 20 minutes after she crossed the finish line. why? she had only been in the race far a few minutes. race officials say kendal schwayer jumped back onto the course after the final check point. they immediately noticed a race number was in the wrong place and she had removed the timing tape from her number. still, they briefly gave her the benefit of the doubt because she had finished third in that same marathon last year. but after an investigation officials determine that the 26-year-old had faked both finishes. officials say she might have gotten away with it if she timed out her scam a little bit better winning the whole thing drew, of course, a lot of extra attention. finally if you've ever felt a little bit out of shape, this guy can share your struggle. he got stuck in the seat belt in the back seat of his car while his wife offered to not a complimentary reason why. >> you stopped me in. i told you yesterday the belt was defective didn't i. >> it's your body. >> harsh. that was 71-year-old clint chadbourne from portland maine. his wife pulled over at a rest stop so they could stretch their legs. somehow he got tangled in the seat belt. he was a good sport about it sitting there patiently. his wife blamed his big belly. it's a gig thing he's got a sense of humor because this video has been viewed some 200 million times on youtube. that couple by the way celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary. of course this video makes it clear why they've lasted all those years. >> or maybe not through this weekend. that's a little rough. >> yeah. >> all right. well, let's get another check on the road out there tonight. poor guy matt. it happens. >> poor guy not getting a break but we however are hitting the brakes this afternoon monica as we look live at the vines, all is not fine on the vine. we have a crash westbound here by broad street. you can see the one suv pretty badly damaged. i think that's part of the bumper sticking up right there and the left lane is out of commission. so, you're looking at jammed solid traffic on the vine westbound coming away from 95 through this point at broad. eastbound hitting the brakes as well with normal friday afternoon volume. you know it's not going to be uneventful on a friday afternoon. but our fire location in tacony along state road, that's cleared out so no need to worry about that. still have that police investigation of an earlier crash in north philadelphia at 19th and diamond. if you're headed home from temple this afternoon watch out for that. crash in warminster by the eagle diner and archbishop wood is along york road near street road. do you understand wires in doylestown along swamp road at york road there. in lower providence by the dairy queen good afternoon for that watch out for a crash along ridge pike at clearfield avenue. one in upper merion along 23 valley forge road at 422. we'll be talking about 23 in schuylkill township a whole lot next week with the big closure coming up and we're watching a wreck still this afternoon in east greenwich gloucester county along kings highway but headed into south jersey a wreck on the delaware memorial bridge is gone. all lanes reopened but speeds are still just in the teens as you come out of new castle and head up and over the delaware memorial. also seeing half hour delays this afternoon on njt's river line. that's because of some signal problems but earlier issues on septa's broad street line have been resolved. we'll check in again brian and monica in the 5 o'clock hour. >> all right matt. these warmer weekends have our thoughts turning to the beach and weekend down at the shore. >> absolutely. >> when we step outside sky six looking live at atlantic city, a beautiful day down there today. >> won't be long. meteorologist cecily with that exclusive accuweather seven day. i think you're going to like it next. >> kind of goofy around here. all giggles because it's friday and the weekend is looking spectacular. >> i opened up my pool today. >> yeah. >> come on by tomorrow. >> i was going say -- >> help clean it. >> davis work to do but we do have a few showers out. they're really isolated. storm tracker six live double scan showing most of the area is rain free but i've been tracking this batch of showers that had been working through chester county. it's sinking to the southeast pretty quickly. right now the heaviest is right over 202 near arden dale where wilmington right now you're getting some of those showers, newark you just missed it that shower up to the north and that will be crossing the river into gloucester and salem county. no lightning strikes associated with that but there are a few isolated downpours. temperatures 74 degrees with winds out of the south. millville 73, wilmington 73, allentown and reading 71, trenton 70. on the beaches though with those winds off the ocean quite a bit cooler, sea isle currently 59 degrees. satellite6 along with action radar showing as expected most of the shower activity was early this morning. then we saw a few breaks of sunshine, a couple isolated showers but high pressure is over the ohio valley. this little bubble of high pressure builds in tomorrow right ahead of a cold front and that will bring us really a gorgeous saturday but definitely on the warm side. so the next 12 hours a mild friday night a spotty shower possible early. most of our region partly cloudy. overnight low in the lehigh valley down to 47 degrees. in philadelphia 55 degrees. so, saturday take out the shorts and the short sleeves. 78 degrees, loads of sunshine. this cold front moves through dry on saturday night and behind it we get the wind shifting out of the northwest. so that will pull down cooler air but still another area of high pressure will bring us plenty of sunshine, 64 degrees which is seasonable but then late sunday night and monday i'm tracking this system pulling out of the southwest and this will bring us a soaking rain on monday. monday you do not want to forget the umbrella. we're looking at an inch to two and a half inches of rain on monday. this is the most single storm rain we've gotten in more than a month now. the good news is we are dry right through sunday afternoon, so if you're head to go ppl park as the union takes on the revolution, it's looking very nice. at 5 o'clock the beginning of the game 62 degrees with high cirrus clouds, light winds. by the 90th minute the end of the game dropping down to 59 degrees so maybe a light jacket if you're heading to the union game. so the exclusive accuweather 7-day forecast one of the nicest weekends so far this year. 78 degrees a taste of summer on saturday. we drop down to 64 degrees on sunday with sun and high clouds. then late sunday night through the day on monday waves of rain. one round of heavy rain in the morning, another in the afternoon. it will be windy and cool, 61 degrees. tuesday though the sunshine is back 71 degrees. wednesday beautiful. little bit cooler, 64. on tuesday we cloud up, 60 degrees. and don't put away the sweatshirts just yet. friday temperatures dropping 9 degrees below normal, 58 degrees so friday will be 20 degrees cooler than tomorrow. >> little bit of a seesaw. >> keep the sweatshirts and sweaters out. >> who doesn't like something free? we have freebie friday coming up for you next. we all do. >> it is time to save with 6abc on this freebie friday beginning with a huge community arcade to kick off the fifth annual philly tech week. tomorrow night head to dillworth park for three hours of app games. a giant version of connect four and live music. additional events throughout the week feature free beer and food free trivia an opportunity to get a free mini version of yourself printed for free. if you're in bucks county this weekend stop by peddler's village for two days of spring outdoor fun. spring fling lessons on vegetable plantings and tastings from area restaurants. led to fashionly park. all 398 are offering free admission this weekend to celebrate national park week and finally you can get a head start on spring cleaning with several opportunities for free paper shredding. staples stores will get red of up to 2 pounds of paper for you until april 25th. office depot and office max will shred up to 5 pounds of documents until may second. head to our web site to find the coupons you'll need to print out as well as full details on these deals. >> good stuff. >> that will do it for "action news" at 4:00. for monica malpass shirleen allicott alicia vitarelli adds dam joseph i'm brian taff. join me tonight and every night for a full hour of "action news" at 10:00 on phl17. >> "action news" at 5:00 coming up next. rick and i will join you after the break >> ♪♪ >> "action news." delaware valley's leading news program. with jaime apody meteorologist cecily tynan rick williams and monica malpass. >> ♪♪ >> disturbing details tonight about the murder of a two-year-old boy in delaware county. police say the boyfriend of the child's mother abused him and the injuries led to his death. tonight officials say the mother was also involved. it's friday night and the big story on "action news" is the murder charges announced in there death of the toddler from norwood. >> "action news" reporter dann cuellar live outside the home where the alleged abuse took place. >> reporter: rick and mon cat horrific case unfolded here back in february where the child lived in an upstairs apartment with his mother and her boyfriend. the child was in the care of the boyfriend when he took him to the doctor's office down below ashen and unresponsive. 30-year-old shannon matthew is the biological mother of the two-year-old had nothing to say as she was led away in handcuffs shortly after being charged with murder. neither did her alleged cohort 31-year-old daniel grafton who in the eyes of authorities is the monster who brutally abused two year old mason hunter over a period of time leading to his death. >> we believe both played a very active role in the horrific death of this young boy. >> reporter: it was back on february 3rd that police and paramedics rushed to the office of dr. patricia sutton in the 400 block of chester pike in norwood this for an unresponsive child. grafton who lived with his girlfriend in an apartment above the office took the child there claiming he found him unconscious face down in the
ArkansasUnited-statesTulsa-countyOklahomaConshohockenPennsylvaniaPhoenixvilleMillvillePresbyterian-hospitalChadFranklin-squareOhio are now trying to get out. >> everything everything is gone. our houses. everything. there's nothing to eat, nothing to drink. >> reporter: the typhoon damaged or destroyed an estimated 23,000 homes, displacing more than 600,000 people. many of the dead remain unburied. this woman says rescuers have not come back in days and asks, why haven't they returned to recover the bodies? severe food and water shortages are adding to the crisis. aid organizations like the red cross and team rubiconare beginning to arrive. local doctors say they're returning low on medicine. and more u.s. military help is coming. >> we're going to go as fast as we possibly can and get there as soon we can to help people in need. >> reporter: the george washington strike group is on its way from hong kong. and at tacloban's airport, c130 cargo planes are flying in tons of food, water and other supplies. but with tacloban in ruins, many are still waiting for help. tina kraus, wjz eyewitness news. >> and you can help the victims. catholic relief services isic taking your donations right now. call 1-877-help-crs. or log onto their website, crs.org. here in maryland, we're dealing with our first real winter blast. it's a cold wave for downtown. sales season is wrapping up in grand fashion. probably not the conditions this crew was expecting when they docked at the inner harbor today. live look outside now. how long will these chilly temperatures stick around? wjz is live with first warning weather coverage. meteorologist chelsea ingram is live in quarry lake with the wjz mobile weather lab in baltimore county. but first, bob is updating our temperatures. hi, bob. >> these are temperatures that are really pretty normal for january, not november. in fact, the normal high is around 40, 41. we're at 38 now. only 25 in oakland. 40 in d.c. 39 in easton. and 38 in ocean city. the dew point way down. this is a very dry, cold, canadian air mass. 13-degree dew point. wow. temperatures right now, running 17 degrees colder than yesterday at this time. cumberland, 24 degrees colder. and oakland, 20 degrees colder. so it was a major difference when that front came through. primarily, came through dry. even saw a few areas with scattered flurries. but wind chill with the breeze, still feels like around 30 degrees. if you're going outside tonight, dress for wind chills in the 20s to low 30s. feels like 16 there in out in oakland. chelsea ingram is live with a look at the temperatures. >> reporter: everyone has been walking around. they have had their jackets, clothes, gloves because it feels cold. let's take a lack at the numbers with our mobile weather lab. we're sitting just under 46 degrees. we have been fluctuating between 38 and 39 since i got out here about 30, 45 minutes ago. wind chill factors, not really much of a factor. winds are still on the calm side. but it is expected to pick up for us as we head into the overnight. and temperatures are going to drop. take a look at this graphic. we're going to see a forecast around 25 for our low temperature. that's near the record set back in 1911. around 22 degrees. keep in mind, too, the average for this time of year is 37. and as we head into your wednesday, well, that cold is going to stick around. and we'll see another cold night, heading into wednesday night as well. just how cold will we get? bob will have those details coming up in your exclusive first warning forecast. for now, i'm live with the wjz mobile weather lab, at cory lake, back to you guys on tv hill. >> check in with wjz for first warning weather coverage. we'll keep you updated on the threat of severe weather and bring you information on any closings or delays. breaking news right now. a house fire in northeast baltimore. let's go to captain jeff long in sky eye chopper 13. captain jeff? >> reporter: the fire call came out about 3:40. and the house is actually an office building for a used car dealership here in the 5900 block of bel air road. and the response was pretty good. looks like they do have the fire out. they're working on just checking to make sure everything is completely out. and with the huge response we have, bel air road, effectively shut down in the northbound direction. only one lane, getting by -- [ inaudible ] [ no audio, please stand by ] >> captain jeff, thank you. well, turning up the heat on baltimore's most wanted. city police execute daring predawn raids. and wjz is right along, as officers, during these busts. as rochelle ritchie reports, several dangerous suspects are now in custody. >> reporter: well, this rain is just one of many the city plans to carry out until it gets every suspect, every criminal behind bars and convicted. >> reporter: it's 4:00 a.m. and wjz is there, as dozens of baltimore city police officers and the baltimore county s.w.a.t. team gear up and load up to break down the doors of unsuspecting bgf gang members and those allegedly working for them. >> police, search warrant! [ sirens ] >> reporter: wjz rides along, as search warrants are carried out on 11 homes in east baltimore, just after 5:00 this morning. >> all of these search warrants are being carried out at the same time. the suspects are all convicted felons. of the 11, two of them are wanted for murder. >> undercover officers quietly approached the home. we are there, cameras rolling, as police go into action. [ gunshots ] >> residents living on rutland avenue, wake up to the explosion. -- commotion. handcuffed and taken to jail. just one of the six taken into custody. >> this is part of our continued effort to dismantle the black guerrilla family, using drug conspiracy and related charges. >> reporter: the numerous raids across the city are all in response to the blood bath on city streets police say is at theands of -- hands of bgf gang members. the state's earn's office, has indicted 68 on federal charges. police say they will search every crevice of the city, arresting and prosecuting the black guerrilla family. until they are all behind bars. >> we will not stop these efforts. >> reporter: and of the 20 people indicted, 60 of them are now in custody. i'm rochelle ritchie, wjz eyewitness news. >> suspected gang members were arrested as part of today's raids. but what happens when they go to prison? well, tonight at 11:00, a wjz exclusive. vic carter speaks with the former security chief, who reveals how gangs took control of the baltimore city detention center. it is a story of sex, smuggling and power. that's tonight at 11:00. drugs being sold out of a day care center? that's what police say was happening in anne arundel county. >> a warning at the gambrels day nursery. police arrested and charged 30- year-old rosemary tuck. the operation allegedly started with undercover officers. in addition to finding marijuana and drug partner, police also seized six rifles. they were proper -- the nursery was properly licensed by the state, which has been contacted. >> wjz is in anne arundel county. we'll have more coming up at 5:00. more troubling news for president obama's president obama's signature healthcare law. only 40 to 50,000 americans have been able to enroll into the affordable care act. far below what was expected danielle nottingham reports for we'll from washington. >> reporter: between 40,000 and 50,000 americans have been able to successfully enroll in private insurance, through the healthcare.gov website, according to the wall street journal. industry analysts have confirmed those numbers for cbs news in the 36 states where the federal government is running the exchange. >> cbs news data from the states operating their own exchanges, shows another 50,000 enrollees. but those figures fall well short of the 500,000 the obama administration initially had hoped to have at this point. . >> the fact that the website has been so challenging, so problematic in that first month, means the enrollment numbers will be even lower than expected. >> reporter: the administration says it is counting on the numbers to climb as the signups improve. dale directed medicare and medicaid under the first presidency of bush. she said it was expected. but what is key is that they are transparent about them so insurers can plan. >> it is getting extremely worrisome about what happens if people can't and aren't enrolling. >> reporter: the white house has promised to release its own figures this week. in washington, danielle nottingham, wjz eyewitness news. >> reporter: this week, the department of health and human services began sending e-mails to people who were unable to create an account, inviting them to come back and try again. how does it look on the roads right no? -- now? let's look at the roads with kristy breslin. >> hi, kai. hi, everyone. well, we're starting often very slowly, along northbound 95. with delays beginning at eastern avenue. going over to mountain road in harford county. we had a couple of earlier accidents that had been moved to the shoulder. top side inner loop, stop and go there, from jones falls to the expressway. not too bad on the west side inner loop. a couple of brake lights as you make your way toward 270. 32 to 100. and we do have that house fire that captain jeff told you about just moments ago. it does have bel air road closed off in the northbound direction between white avenue and park mont. southbound direction, only one lane gets by. right now, the best alternate would be to take walther instead. beltway moving at a decent speed. this traffic report is brought to you by erickson living. for fun, maintenance-free retirement, visit charlestown in catonsville. beautiful new apartment homes available. visit erickson living.com. back to you. an overturned truck in the city. let's go live to captain jeff long with sky eye chopper 13. captain jeff? >> this is the intersection of biddle street and caroline street. northeast. that is a city truck on the north side. they're trach -- taking the truck. a wrecker is on scene to upright the truck. and rollback in position to take the truck away. caroline and biddle. that intersection shut down. reporting live from sky eye chopper 13, i'm captain jeff long. we'll continue to check in with you. well, could former raven, ed reed end up back with his former team? the former all-pro safety is cut by the houston texans today. reed was recently benched, and according to recent reports, wore out his welcome, by saying the team was outcoached when it lost sunday. so far, no word if the ravens have any interest in bringing him back. is official. the new one world trade center is the tallest building in the nation. they bait has raged for the last few weeks if that is the tallest building or the willis tower, formirly the sears -- tower. today, the council on habitat deemed that one world trade center is the tallest because of the spire on top of the building. and you know, i don't know, mary. you're from chicago. i know some people feel the spire is cheating, but it's part of the building, it has to be counted. >> and i'm thinking the willis tower, which we call the sears tower, will put another spire on top of its spire. then they'll just keep stacking up. >> i guess it will be a highest spire. >> we'll see what happens. still ahead on eyewitness news at 4:00. [ explosion. the power of a liquid bomb that can bring down an airline. well, will the tsa soon ease restrictions on what passengers can carry on board? inside the breakthrough technology. a fire truck crashes on the way to a fire. what causes the accident. a three, maybe four or five- dog night ahead. how long will it last? don't miss the updated first warning forecast. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, it's chilly outside. 38 degrees in central maryland in fact right now, the complete first warning weather forecast is coming up. a sheriff's deputy in southern virginia is hospitalized after a crash involving two other cars. a driver rear-ends another car, pushing it into oncoming traffic. that car then hit the henry county sheriff's deputy's car. all three drivers went to the hospital. virginia state troopers charged one driver in the crash. a fire truck rushing to the scene of a house fire in memphis, crashes through a fence. >> the fire department says the truck had bad brakes and that's why it slammed into the concrete barrier, then that fence. the firefighter was pretty shaken up. then got to work fighting the flames. can wall street build on monday's record finish? [ stock bells ringing ] >> well, right now, all the markets lose ground. the dow is down 32. the s&p is down 4. nasdaq up, a fraction. let's go to new york, where alison harmelin has tonight's cbs money watch update. >> the justice department says it struck a deal that will allow the merger of u.s. airways and american airlines, creating the world's largest airlines. the agreement requires both airlines to give up landing spots in washington reagan national airport and other key seas. back in august, the government moved to impede the merger assaulting it would hike up prices around the country. this settlement still requires federal aproval. stocks were trading one day after another record high. fewer americans are falling behind on their mortgages. according to their credit agency, transunions. late payments on home loans are at a five-year low. >> apple's ipad mini. this is the first to feature a high-resolution display. apple calls retina. it's also equipped with a faster, wireless connection. that's your money watch. for all your business news, log onto cbsmoneywatch.com. in new york, i'm alison harmelin. >> coming up on eyewitness news at 4:00. high drama. a worker stuck in a dangerous situation. see the rescue. i'm mike schuh, wjz eyewitness news. in the special studio, at frederick douglas high school, where they have new interactive media programs. programs they'll be showing to media officials this week. the story when eyewitness news deputies. get the extra blankets from the closets. stick around for the updated first warning weather forecast. >> wjz 13 is always on. for the top stories on cbsbaltimore.com, instant updates and first warning weather all the time, click cbsbaltimore.com. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i'm meteorologist chelsea ingram, live with the wjz mobile weather lab, here at quarry lake, where it is a chilly throin degrees, and temps are only going to continue to drop. for those details and more, let's go inside to bob, for an updated look at your first warning forecast. >> if you go outside tonight, wear the hat, the scarf, the gloves. you'll be just fine. >> i said, what did you wear? no wonder he was cold. let's take a look at temps around the region. we're at 38 now. once again, the normal high, in the middle of january, is around 40. so we're still colder than that. 35% humidity. air was so dry. snow. north/northwest winds at 10. the barometer on the way back up again. look how dry the air is. the dew point is down to 13 degrees. had is a dry, canadian air mass. 25, oakland now. 36 cumberland. still snowing a little in garrett county. but not even as much as we hoped for or they had hoped for, i guess. 30, ocean city. light rain along the lower eastern shore. local midtemperatures. still around 40. still the breeze, around 10 miles ran hour. -- an hour. if you're going out tonight, dress for freezing or lower temperatures because the actual temperature tonight will get down into the mid- to upper 20s most places. this morning, we had a lot of activity showing up on radar. but a lot of it never reached the ground. it was just too dry. a little snow there. pretty much dissipated. had a little in new jersey, off the east coast, there's light shower activity. now we're clearing out. new lake-effect snow breaking through. that's what this is. just related to the cold air, picking up the moisture. garrett county, a little up here across new york state. there's what is left of it here. you can see it. light shower activity across southern maryland. look at this. chicago, 32. bismarck was 8 yesterday. they're now back up to 48. denver, 60. so we do have a warmup headed our way. that will be in here by the end of the week. so cold next two days. warm air starts moving back. by friday, we'll be back up close to 60. winds on the bay, still gusting up to 20 knots and a small craft advisory tomorrow. going to be cold. record is 22. still a breeze from time to time. 42 for a high tomorrow. that's january, pretty much. partly to mostly sunny skies but still breezy. so cold day tomorrow. just like tonight. >> all right, bob. thank you. don't miss the cbs primetime lineup tonight. also, hit drama, person of interest. that will ifed by eyewitness news at 11:00. week 11 is almost here. the picks are coming in for the pro football challenge. jessica kartalija is at cbsbaltimore.com to update this week's standings. >> we have coleaders atop the bobblehead leader board. don scott and tim williams are now tied at 94 points. mark viviano has 93. and then it's the ladies. mary bubala with 90. and linh bui with 89. the season may be under way. but you can still sign up for the 2013 pro football challenge. to compete, go to cbsbaltimore.com, and click on the link at the top of the homepage. you must be over 18 to play. our contest runs through the regular football season. one entry per person. ask you're competing nationally for prizes. come here to cbsbaltimore.com, and sign up now. good luck, guys. back to you. >> the ravens look to get a winning streak going, as they take on the chicago bears. watch that game this sunday, 1:00 p.m., live on wjz. then stay tuned, right after the game, for our special wjz game coverage. we will bring you the highlights, reaction, and analysis. it's a full day of ravens football live on wjz. still ahead on wjz's eyewitness news at 4:00. i'm alex demetrick. coming up, a new leader for america's catholic bishops. and the challenges laid down by a new pope. that story as eyewitness news continues. preventing heart attacks and strokes. major changes to cholesterol guidelines. why the number of people taking medications could increase. changes will be made to either look at ourselves, you have to examine everything internally. taking sides. the owner of the miami dolphins opens up about the bullying scandal, engulfing his team. for intelligent life.. for a greater purpose. it's a journey enriched by the people we know and the things we share. we believe online searching should be the same. only at bing do you see what the web knows what we know, and now what your friends and the world of social media are creating all there. all in one search. expand your search and see what you've been missing. bing. try it now. it's 4:30. 38 degrees and partly cloudy. hello, everyone. thanks for staying with eyewitness news. i'm vic carter. >> i'm denise koch. here's what people are talking b. >> the owner of the miami dolphins is vowing that he's going to get to the bottom of the allegations of hazing. he spoke last night for the first time about the controversy. >> reporter: miami dolphins owner, steven ross, spoke out about the bullying scandal, just before his team took the field monday night in tampa bay. he said he was appalled that richie incognito harassed martin to the point where martin left the team two weeks ago and sought counseling. >> changes need to be made. we have to look at ourselves. we have to examine everything independently. >> reporter: ross said he has formed an independent committee to review. >> this isn't an issue about bullying. >> reporter: the announcement comes a day after incognito explained himself to fox sports. >> this is an issue of my and john's relationship where i -- i have taken stuff too far. >> reporter: ross said he will meet with martin on wednesday, at an undisclosed location to hear his side. >> i'd like to hear from him what had happened, why he felt that way, and where, you know, just the whole origin and what we did and what we could have done, to really prevent something like this from happening. >> reporter: ross also apologized to fans and said the team will come out of this scandal as a better organization. ann marie green, cbs news. >> ross said he has formed an independent advisory group that will review conduct policies to make the dolphins a model for the nfl. >> watching tv and making phone calls should dzokhar sarfla -- dzokhar tsarnaev be able to do those things? >> lawyers for dzokhar tsarnaev are in court today, to ask a judge to ease restrictions while he awaits trial. the attorneys say special administrative measures are impairing their ability to defend him. the measures often used in terrorism cases restrict access to the media, telephone and visitors. three people died and more than 260 were hurt by the twin bombings at the boston marathon last april. denise? >> the aclu also filed a document, asking for fewer restrictions. but the judge said the civil rights group cannot get involved in the case. >> reporter: it is a national and international calamity, and despite the bodies found in the streets of the philippines and the mass devastation, the death toll is not as high as originally estimated. tory dunnan has the story. >> reporter: the view from above shows a dire situation in the philippines. >> it was all dead, collapsed. all of our evacuation centers collapsed. >> reporter: thousands of people are forced to sleep in the open air. but amid the wreckage, somewhat of a glimmer of hope, when it comes to the overall death toll. >> the figure i have right now is about 2,000. but this might still get higher. >> reporter: the recovery effort is made even more difficult by the horrific site of dead bodies on the road. the injured attempt to find treatment. officials estimate some 2 million people are in need of food, not to mention the lack of clean water. >> we're working hand in hand with the filmpines. both armed -- philippines, both the armed forces. we'll help them in need. we have airplanes standing by, logistics standing by. >> reporter: more than 200 countries is offered aid, including the united nations. the u.s. is putting troops on the ground. but bad weather continue to hamper the efforts. still, desperate cries for help. [ crying and speaking in foreign language ] >> reporter: can't come soon enough for the hundreds of thousands of typhoon victims. in washington, i'm tory dunnan. >> it could take weeks to determine a true death toll. gusty winds bring an arctic blast to maryland. and some of the coldest temperatures we've seen this season. wjz found people outside this morning, wearing parkas, heavy coats, gloves, hats. and let's take a live look outside right now. as the sun says temperatures will be dropping. wjz is live with first warning weather coverage. meteorologist chelsea ingram is in quarry lake with the wjz mobile weather lab. but first, bob turk is updating temperatures. bob? >> we talked about normal temperatures this time of year, around 57 for a high. take a look right now. we're only at 38 degrees. that is actually about the normal in some areas here in january. 40 in d.c. 20 in oakland now. 38 in ocean city. dew point is way down. much dryer air mass came in, only 13-degree dew point. very dry cold air. we're running 17 degrees colder than yesterday at this crime. out in far western maryland. 20 to 23 degrees colder than we saw yesterday at this particular hour. so with the breeze right now, the wind chill is just around the freezing mark, as you can see, 31 here. and garrett county, dew points, low. humidity is low. the little bit of snow falling. but the windshield area, with the breeze and temperatures in the 20s is only around 16 degrees. so if you're heading out tonight, dress for some cold temps. not only will the wind chill be down in the 20s. the actual temperature will be down in the 20s as well. chelsea is live with more on this information. chelsea? >> reporter: hey, thanks, bob. we will talk about just how cold that temperature is going to get. but first, let's take a look at what is going on with the mobile weather lab here at quarry lake. we're sitting just under 39 degrees. and i mentioned earlier, that temp has been fluctuating anywhere between 38 ask 39 for about the past hour and 30 minutes or so. but as i mentioned being we're going to get very cold. take a look at this graphic. as we head into the overnight, we're going to see temps drop into the low and mid-20s region wide. the record for this time of year. the record for today, i should say, is 22. set back in 1911. the average for this time of year is 37 degrees. so we are going to be approaching near record lows. and that cool temperature is going to take us all the way into your wednesday. where we see temps only in the 40s for your high. and another night, yet again, of cold temperatures headed our way. for more on that, bob will have more on that coming up in your exclusive first warning forecast. for now, i'm live at the wjz mobile weather lab at quarry lake. back to you guyoss tv hill. >> thank you, chelsea and bob. check in with wjz for first warning weather coverage. we'll keep you updated on any threat of severe weather. along with information on any closings or delays. america's catholic bishops have a new leader, even as they adjust to having a new pope. the challenge is a balancing act between old causes and new priorities, being set by the vatican. >> reporter: archbishop joseph curts is literally setting into his new job. the american conference of catholic bishops, meeting in baltimore, elected him president, while all are still trying to adjust to their new pope. and pope francis's message, that the church focus more on mercy rather than divisive social issues. >> one of the challenge system really what our holy father has said over and over again. in that, how can we warm hearts and heal wounds? >> reporter: this is a body that has pushed hard. prezzed against -- pressed against same-sex merge. and said its position on abortion is nonnegotiable. but it differs from other social conservatives. we have spoken about immigration. the dignity of marriage. robust, religious freedom. some of them are responses to movements going on in our culture. >> reporter: the challenge now is smpging -- syncing those responses with movements -- going on in the church's own culture. >> besides his three-year post, joseph curts will also continue search -- serving as archbishop in loseville, kentucky. -- louisville, kentucky. two new accidents to report out there. the first to report on 97. a car fire broken. first is just after the harbor tunnel through way. that's creating quite a backup. give yourself a little extra time to get through. slowing from 32 to 100. delays are running parallel on northbound 295. that is from 175 over to 100. with an average speed of about 40 miles an hour. not too bad around the beltway. west side inner loop, watch for a slowdown there, approaching 70, past liberty road. top side inner loop, continues to creep along there from the jones falls expressway, over to harford. let's take a live look. you can see, a bit heavy there on the inner loop. but it does ease up after harford road. this traffic report is brought to you by erickson living. visit charlestown in catonsville. beautiful new apartment homes now available. visit erickson living.com for details. thank you. radio, tv, and video game riding are all being taught in city high schools. as mike schuh reports, teachers are inviting industry professionals to see how far the students have come. >> in the city, a high schooler overcomes obstacles just walking in the door. metal detectors and bag searches are routine part of the day. across the hall, dominic is making choices that could lead to a career. >> i'm able to grasp things faster. >> reporter: he's the campus student photographer, part of the media program, attracting students. >> this picture here is when we had lady mercy. >> seeing himself through image little of others. dominic has developed confidence. >> you've learned your job. now you have the confidence that you're going to stand up and go where you where you need to be. >> this media arts program includes code writing for video game development. >> this seems really hard. >> it is. >> look at this. a suit used to make three-d motion capture. data to build more elack laberate video games. helps give him a leg up. >> also, when i go to college, i could say, for doing this, i'm more advanced than other students. >> reporter: but even if a child doesn't go into the media field, there are other lessons learned. >> we want our students to make their mistakes here. we want them to culticate what they cultivate what they can be and what they want to be. and we want to help them try to meet that goal. >> now, industry officials are coming to see the work of all similar city programs. >> because i feel like the public doesn't really know how exciting it is to be in this program. >> mike schuh, wjz eyewitness news. >> will be open 5:00 to 7:00. look out for us. >> i know. we don't have one of those suits. i'd like one of those. that would be fun. straight ahead at 4:00. big bats fan. coming all out to make a child's wish come true. you don't want to miss this heartwarming story. locked in the deep freeze. how long will it last? stick around for the updated first warning weather forecast. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, combat that threat while making travel more convenient. some airports are looking for ways to screen liquids. [ explosion ] >> reporter: the power of a liquid bomb on display. it was the devious weapon of choice, in the chilling 2006 plan to blow up as many as 10 u.s.-bound flights from the united kingdom. >> reporter: well, the 2006 plot foiled. but since then, for the past seven years, flyers have been restricted to this. no more than 3.4 ounces of liquids or gels, allowed in carry-ons in the u.s. and europe. >> reporter: now, new technology could allow airports around the country to ease the rules. london is taking the first step towards the goal of lifting restrictions on liquids by 2016. by installing new liquid- scanning technology at heathrow airport. the ohio-based company says it scans the containers in less than 10 seconds, uses radio frequency and ultrasonic technology and alerts security personnel of suspicious substances. the company didn't specify the margin of error, only saying it was very low and very nonfactorred, such as the time of container. all european airports have been mandated to have technology capable to scan liquids by 2014. but what about the u.s.? the tsa says developing liquid scanners that would allow them to lift restrictions, quote, remains a long-term goal. but chad wolf says that change won't come any sime soon. >> the eu is testing liquid explosive scanners, very similar to what the tsa is doing. but it comes back to technology. is the technology ready for prime time? and as of today, i think it's not. >> there no timetable for when the u.s. mans to implement that technology. crews are rescuing a worker. the worker was doing repairs on the tower when his rappel system stopped working. the worker hung onto his safety harness for 45 minutes before firefighters brought him to safety. he was taken to the hospital as a precaution, but was not injured. just-released guidelines could put many more people on cholesterol-lowering drugs. >> reporter: 64-year-old joyce enright has been taking cholesterol-lowering drugs for years. doctors used to rely on specific levels to determine which patients needed a drug known as statens. now, new guidelines from the american heart association and the american college of cardiology are recommending statens for four high-risk groups. the groups include patients of cardiovascular disease. those with a bad cholesterol of 190 or higher. patients with 190 or higher. and patients 40 to 75 with diabetes or 10-year cardiovascular disease. >> we're trying to give them the therapy to start with that benefit most. >> reporter: but some cardiologists worry more people may be on statens who may not need them. >> it could cause muscle pain, joint pain, liver problems. >> the guidelines also emphasize a heart-healthy lifestyle. diet and exercise were not enough. plus, she had a family history. >> i'm healthier now. i have a healthier lifestyle. >> reporter: doctors say guidelines help but each patient needs to be evaluated individually. >> the new guidelines prescribe statebs, -- statens, saying higher doses may be needed for certain patients. a 5-year-old boy diagnosed with leukemia. after making it through the worst part of has treatment, this caped crusader is geared up and ready to fight crime. over 7,000 volunteers will be in attendance, as the hero takes down villages in-- villains in places needing help. i guess they're going to stage some disaster scenes that he can swoop in and make things better. >> let's hope so. looks like a real crime fighter to me. will warmer temperatures be coming in later this week? >> bob turk has ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i'm meteorologist chelsea ingram, live with the wjz mobile weather lab here at quarry lake, where it is a chilly 38.6 degrees. and temps are going to continue to drop, as we head into the overnight. bob has those details right now, in the exclusive first warning forecast. bob? >> and you should be dressing for a winter night tonight. if you're heading out, yes, certainly going to be a cold night around the region. and still have a breeze now. take a look at temperature with 38. wind chill is down to 31 with a north/northwest wind at 10. barometer on the way back up again. as a big area of cold, high pressure moves in. 30.92 inches. this is a dry air mass moving in. earlier today, when the front moved through, the precip was so light. and the air so dry, very few folks really saw anything in the way of any snow shower activity. it primarily was really pretty much west of cumberland. frostburg had snow. 36, cumberland and 38 in ocean city. had a few light rain showers. and a few snowflakes mixed in a few spots. right now, locally, 36 to 40 degrees around the region. still, the breeze anywhere from 8 to 15. 18 miles an hour down in pax river. that's bringing the wind chills down around the freezing mark. so if you're heading out tonight, remember, it's going feel like majority mid- to upper 20s. the front this morning, showing big low pressure, quebec, see that big spin there. trailing a cold front. this is an arctic cold front. it is already warming up in the northern plains. the front came through the area. but most of the precip dried up as it moved through our region and offshore. now, we're getting clearing skies and lake-effect snow, popping up here in michigan, portions of ohio, new york, pennsylvania and virginia as well. during the day tomorrow. warmer temps to the northwest of us for a little while. here's the colder air mass. that's over us tomorrow and into wednesday. and a little bit of thursday. 48-degree temperatures. however, in bismarck, means a big warmup coming later in the week. a this cold air begins to retreat. some milder air comes back. thursday, friday, a lot warmer into the weekend. temperatures well above normal. winds on the bay, gusting to 20 knots. tonight, then around 25. the normal is 37. the record, 22. so it's a cold night tonight and still breezy. sunshine and a few clouds. high ever only 42. which is well below normal. still to come on eyewitness news tonight. 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rivals, signaling a tech tonic shift in italian politics. maloney's party brothers of italy has its roots in near fascism opponents fear. rollback of rights for the party is quick to disavow any connection with italy's fascist passed. good. i could, if you look at our percentage fidelity darya took a 26 percent of the vote in italy. so unless you want to say that all the italians are a fascist, or most of them it's it's, it's something that is not true. now we, we are not that we are ah new way to think at the right ah, politics. and in that said, others fear that the election results may tip the balance in a you decision making to the right. as rights when governments rise in europe, allegra we're, italy, will be led by the right. but then the, the trend that arose in sweden a few weeks ago, has also come here, aren't any value to day. is a sad day for italy and for europe earlier. there are hard days ahead of us jordan duty. no maloney has been known for her hard line views on social issues like immigration and same sex marriage when she took the podium after her election when she promised to govern for all italians. it's a message that resonated with many voters, her gay simple felicia, i always supported the left but they disappointed me. i'm 75 years old. i would like to see change. yeah. let's get this the try. sure it's risky, but maloney seems quite competent when he changes the bill of lading with the cost of living crisis and the war and ukraine. maloney takes the reins at a time of trouble for italy and europe. her leadership may set a new course for both. so what can be a you expect from a right wing italian government d w correspondent to band rigate is in bro at least in the beginning of her 10. you can expect a more pragmatic edge approach because mrs. maloney still wants the money to do to put it bluntly as she is expecting 200000000 euros hummer recovery fund. that is financed by the u. she would get grants and cheap loans to rebuild italy and she needs that money desperately. and she knows that she has said also in the campaign that she will work together with it you commission. on the other hand, she also said that the party now is over in brussels, and that she will fight more fiercely for italian interests without specifying what she actually meant with that. and on the other hand, you are to have the governments in poland and hungary that are rejoicing now because they think they get a new very strong ally. italy is a, is the 3rd biggest country in the, in new and founding member. they think they can fight vis maloney for their concept of illiberal democracy and fight against all these things that come from brussels. and also in the dispute with the commission about the rule of law. they think italy will support them from now on. we have to see how that plays out. right. and the massive issue facing at europe at the moment in so many ways it, ukraine, what is the georgia bologna stance on that war at bean and, and is her attitude to president putin likely to threaten r e u unity. i don't think so. italy will not alter its foreign policy in this point of judge maloney in the has a denounced the war she says, put in is wrong, resist aggression against ukraine. she is supporting the sanctions of the you against russia. and she is also supporting the supply of weapons and money to ukraine. but she has to a coalition partners and for the lager, and for, hey tanya, it's not so clear if they also support this stance. but experts, usa, she will not order her. the russia policy for now, right. at the turn it was low by italian standards and about 64 percent. why? why yeah. what's 20 percent lower than the last elections? 4 years ago because italian voters are actually fed up with the whole system that had 3 governments in the last 4 years. all parties were somehow involved in that, except for teddy's italia brothers of italy's, or this was the only opposition party. and this is also the reason that georgia maloney could gain here because she could always argue i was not involved. i can do things differently. and she actually jumped from 4 percent in the last election to $25.00. now this is a huge game. thank about bad, bad bring it in rome and the crime. it says it has not yet made any decision. closing rushes bought us despite a flight of men leaving to avoid being called up to fight in ukraine. the mobilization could see as many as 300000 reserves sent in a neighboring georgia is one of the country seeing a big influx of russian men long lines of eagles at the larger border, crossing an entry point to georgia. these men are fleeing russia and let me put in the military mobilization. la louis supported suite, a $1200.00 to be escorted to the point of the killing, which is 3 kilometers before the russian checkpoint on the russian georgia border to this place. just not because if you just honestly stay in the queue, leaving russia could take at least 72 hours a week long our feet. we made it in 30 hours. of the russian authorities acknowledged a significant influx of cars trying to cross into georgia. this comes after an announcement of a partially mobilization, sparked an exodus of fighting each men and some feel that the situation will get even worse. easiest nozer. it's got if i expect marshal law to be declared as a result of unification with those eastern parts of ukraine to russia, which will be followed by a global mobilization glove. well, for me personally, i say neither ideological nor legal grounds for myself to get involved in this war of knowing that those will be here to share it with the way a sentiment shared by many in russia who protested against moscow's column of military resumes in the darkest on region, there were clashes with police, human rights monitors. as over 100 people were arrested. ukrainian president followed amused lensky colon russians not to submit to mobilization. and we need him to ludy jeff. we see the people in particular and tag as dan that began to fight for their lives with him son. we see that they are beginning to understand what this is a question of their lives. they actually were yamba. why should their husbands brothers sons dying? this war now i knew in a more than no one once she never been in a war against our people on our landing, on juniper selection of he does not send his children to war. but it is that those probably yet prevalent as married to washington d g trying to stop the exodus. russia toughened penalties from wall injury, surrender, and refusal to fight with those who do that now facing up to 10 years in prison. but for many, the alternative is far more intimidating. the w nick connelly is in cave. he told me he talked me through some of the ukrainian response to russia's military mobilization. they're all on social media. there is a lot of interest and kind of surprised at the lack of protests in russia, if you go beyond that northern caucasus reason, what region where most of the purchase have been. people asking, why would russians leave their country? why would they waits your days? at border points to cross if they could maybe gotten the streets and change on the home. so definitely kind of lot of critical reactions there. as for the experts in the military kind of high ranks here in here. well, there is worried longer term that russia will have even a greater number of boots on the ground. that is surely the case. but there's a lot of question and kind of concerned that this actually might probably, will take a lot longer than the russians are hoping that actually you'll only really be felt by early next year after the winter season. where basically it's not expected that the front line will move very much indeed. and it was the question of how well the people are being trained and what kind of equipment they've been given. there's lots of photos and video on social media. rusty, a 47 been handed out people given uniforms that looked like they've been in a store cupboard for the best part of a few decades. so worry in the longer term, but in the short medium term, not so much of a concern in the sense that lots, this is more about kind of politics inside russia and less about real fact on the ground. meanwhile, so called referendums, being about joining russia being held in ukraine's occupied east. now what's being said about them? i think no one here in key of takes them seriously. this being seen as a bit of political theatre one where the result was already clear before they were called here. this had been on the calls for months and but then was very pre hastily announced. and then kind of held a couple of days off, the announcement came through, i think the bigger worries. what happens after this, are we going to see vladimir putin then, you know, at the end this week is expected calling these regions. part russia saying, now this is all russia, so if you ukraine, try and regain the sandwiches, then you are directly taking russia and we will threaten you with nuclear weapons. that's expectation. and that's something that people are definitely taking very seriously that perspective that yeah. russia in, in, in a tight corner with military options kind of being last time by day, by day, resorting to the kind of ultimate threat there. and definitely can potential for greater escalation. right? so, and so that's the way that, that, that if the vote happens, as we all expected to that, these are, these places are joined russia then that's the big change of russia is able to not show up notch up this war. another couple of years will definitely in its own logic, obviously no one outside russia. it looks at to recognize this. we've even heard from some of our closest allies like alex on saying that they're not going to take this here as anything legitimate bella roost is not recognized. russia's annexation of crimea since 2014. so this is definitely something the only re concerns russia, but in their logic it would allow them to up up the rhetoric and threaten this kind of retaliation. and also the other thing is mobilization, right? people there on the ground in kind of songs, upper asia are increasingly being pushed to take russian passports and such could be then subjects to mobilization as russian soldiers. we definitely seen russia trying to get as many troops possible from donia. callahan square, they've been in charge since 2014 does a real sense there that people who haven't been able to get out so far and have very few options get out safely, could soon fighting be yet forced to fight against their own country to fight against you crime. i feel that nick nick connelly in cave at small stories making headlines around the world today. president putin has granted russian citizenship to us whistleblower edward snowden. the former government security contractor fled to russia in 2013 after leasing secret file. surveillance of ravens by the us national security agency is wanted in the u. s. on espionage charges. iranian officials say they've arrested more than 1200 people protesting over the death of 22 year old master, meaning in police custody human rights. wanted to say at least 76 people died in 10 days. and protests have also been large pro more bodies have been recovered after a boat carrying migrants sank off serious coast. nearly a 100 people are now known to have died. survivors have been take the hospitals in lebanon. boat left tripoli carrying syrians, lebanese and palestinians. it's 6 weeks until mid term elections in the united states with immigration. one of the big issues, the republican governors of texas, arizona, and florida sent more than 10000 migrants to democrat run cities in the north saying that democrats should share the burden of america's catholic immigration system. the critics say the buses are a political stunt. i correspondence in the summer scanned them at one family who were recently bused from texas to washington d. c. it's a fresh start for jefferson and katerina from venezuela. they arrived in washington dc with their new born daughter leah just last month. they're hoping to make a home here and leave the economic crisis in their home country behind with a manager, eliza, the venezuela. this work, but money doesn't get you anywhere. money isn't enough for anything from venezuela, you can work in the most normal jobs, but it's useless because you'll never have anything by now. but again, we got them in after crossing into the us, they heard about bosses heading north from san antonio, texas, and jumped at the chance to go to the capital. they paid little attention to the politics behind that bus ride. vicki, i go the fishing, they, they go to the law. it's difficult to control like is out there. it's horrible. you know, in there beyond this country, it's ugly, fail those everyone there is looking to come here, but what can you do? and yet politics have taken center stage. republicans in border states have transported more than 10000 migrants from the southern border to democratic stronghold. this year, some migrants have been dropped off in front of vice president comma la harris's residence in d. c. florida governor rhonda santas took credit for a flight of migrants to martha's vineyard. a vacation island in a democratic boston, massachusetts. a group of those migrants has filed the lawsuit. the biden administration, and democrats say it's a highly publicized political, stopped using migrants as ponds and living cities and 8 organizations scrambling to help. oh, organizations like i you that a lot of it's providing legal services therapy and basic supplies, including food and water ah, on a christina plaza is a social services director. she says her organization is at capacity and needs more funding, not political back. i do understand that the border is also at capacity, and i don't think they were prepared to receive that many. my grants, ah, what is inhumane is that treatment? and they can't they, in, instead of politicizing these, they should sit down at a table and discuss what's best for the border for the migrants and for the community in gerald, especially as the situation at the border has shifted dramatically. venezuelans are now arriving in large numbers, fleeing their countries. economic crisis with anna is also from venezuela. and yeah, i came to this country and i needed a help and resources. and that's one of my drives ah, to help others and to be able to leave safe and, and as i speak with you, i'm just feeling all my emotions coming because it really, it's really it's difficult to see your people suffering that way. the venezuelan community is pitching into diana taurus owns and runs a business serving traditional venezuelan food and donated food and supplies to a church, helping newcomers. he would have been better. i know that again, it's important to help them because emigrating is really difficult. and so is starting from scratch right up. and i also want people to know that it's not what everyone says, not emigrating is rough image. i mean, you have to know you have to work hard to be able to achieve your dream. but up what this country gives a lot of opportunities to brain as long as we work hard sample grandmother our him a lot for jeffrey and katerina their hopes now rest on a bright future for their daughter. get acre santa. what makes you grow up healthy? and strong, and then we can put her here and put her to study here where you, since she's already in american way. we can put her to study here and then she can go to high school and she can choose whatever she wants, whatever she was looking at, go ahead and get it for now. they're hoping jefferson will get a work visa their 1st step towards starting a new life here. columbia and venezuela have re open their shed board after years of diplomatic deadlock. and partial closures, cargo trucks have crossed over after a 7. yes, stop and commercial flights will also resume diplomatic relations of thought. since columbia's 1st left leaning president took office historic moment for diplomatic and economic ties between venezuela and columbia. wow. for the 1st time in 7 years, trucks and cars were allowed to cross 2 key bridges linking the colombian region of knotted ascent and there. and the venezuelan state of tatiana, the banker, is well lawyer. the people on both sides of the border will have a wonderful reunion when this will benefit the children who for the last 3 months have been able to cross the border to study rigorous halls. well as the rest of the people. i got to go through all that in the passage for vehicles with restricted back in 2015, an entirely blocked in 20. 19 after the colombian government, try to deliver truckloads of age to the venezuelan, a position with a new left as president in columbia. gustavo petro, tensions between the 2 countries are set to ease from about hulu. this is the right step because many people suffered since they close the border corner with it. now that is becoming a lively latin american border area, or again, any kind of dna. it's great to see that they are reviving their commercial activities again, woman. i mean, they were like you yeah, oh, we're looking over people. everybody has some sort of hope linked to this border here with our, with our we had wish the opening would go even further because there are still many restrictions in place. but at least we can hope that things go back to normal eventually, like it was an ottoman terrible before the closure trade between venezuela and columbia made up some $7200000000.00 every year. now both sides want the newly open border to be a 1st step in that direction. again. authorities have yet to deliver detailed plans for future rules on private and commercial transport at these crossings. as the public transport is still not clear, if that could also become part of venezuela and colombia is restored, neighborly ties not mexico, where families have taken to the streets to mark the 8th anniversary of a notorious kidnapping. a group of 43 student teachers disappeared after being taken off buses by police in southern where our state investigators believe accidentally came across a drugs trafficking operation involving corrupt officials. a former attorney general has been arrested in several police and military officers charged. only 3 bodies from the missing group had been found. the case is just a one of almost a 100000 unsolved disappearances in mexico. mothers have now joined forces to search for their loved ones. a short prayer before the search creeps itself. it's difficult, but we are here to support you. guadalupe ernest is looking for her son. raimondo vanished 4 years ago. she doesn't know if he still alive or why he disappeared. she is called o maria nunez to help her collective searches for the disappeared. they say the authorities do nothing, then only law, i'm afraid he'll be found dead middleton, but i have hope that i'll soon find out what has happened to him. so i can be at peace or yup, well, this cancer, they recently received an anonymous tip of indicating that raymundo his body could be located in class garlic, new mexico city. an official search crew is even lending its support to day. usually its only relatives who poke metal rods into the ground, looking for the odor of decaying bodies. see what gave the smell sticks around this way. we've already been able to discover secret graves that was as gland is the everyone here is united by the same trauma. their sons, husbands or friends have vanished. a 100000 people in mexico are regarded as missing. the country is caught in the stranglehold of drug cartels. many of the missing were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. that's likely true for maria nunez, his son, whom she found dead after a 5 year search. helping other mothers gifts her strength cannot allow and it became clear to me that i wasn't the only one going through this. that there are many mothers who are going through the same uncertainty, pain, law, fear, and desperation, or the, and will days as big as the on protest is take to the streets in mexico city, where public officials are often involved in crimes. like in the case of the 43 students who disappeared 8 years ago, the commission working on the case recently called it a state crime because authorities hit the truth about what happened. maria nunez also does not trust the authorities more than 90 percent of crimes committed in mexico go unpunished. comalla, so that it is not the authorities, refusal to investigate, to prosecute criminals to look for victims results and impunity. yet perpetrators can simply commit crimes because they know nothing will happen. on this day, they find no indication of raymundo. just 2 sets of bones from dead dogs, but they will continue to search for his remains. okay, small stores, making a headlines saturday. i cuba has become the latest country to approve same sex marriage after a referendum on the islands family law system. almost 70 percent of cubans voted in support despite strong resistance from church groups. new measures also allow same sex adoption. i'm sort of pregnancies. german chancellor la sholtes is tested positive for covey. 19 he showing mild, cold, like symptoms after reast returning recently from meeting gulf leaders is now isolating at home in berlin. and normally people think of extreme sports like sky diving as a young man's game or a young person's game. but that's not always true in bosnia abraham, a callous it's. she's still jumping out of aeroplanes competitively at the age of 88 and says he has no intention of stopping the moment before jumping out of an airplane. nothing new for e bring him calais sich. this is the 1487th jump of his career that a parachute in competition last week and in his home country of bosnia. what makes it truly extraordinary is that calais searches 88 years old. yes. a life and i study by the route i am officially the oldest active sky diver in europe of yours. but if my 0, my wish is to jump for another 10 years or 3 and to set again, his record, you know, will you lead a shall killer, a record that how before every jump, calais said checks whether his parachute is properly packed. then he says he can jump without any fear, even though he's had some close cause what else are the more why no, i recently had a parachute failure in bonnie luca laska and it was not because of the parachute or the packaging local. i now go, but the position of my body? yes. is that so the parachute could not be pulled out with a he is oh yeah, yeah. i was forced to drop the main parachute and land with a spare one little your or lot or thought i had a little pezora. a local aero club has been lending calais, sich a parachute for his jumps and will continue to do so. as long as he has a certificate of good health, but he still wants to buy his own shoot and another one to use for training young 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United-statesMexico-cityDistrito-federalMexicoSyriaNew-mexicoRussiaReunionUkraineArizonaWinaGuainíco day. signed, john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 3, 2013, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate. the chair will alternate recognition between the parties with each party limited to one hour and each member other than the majority and minority leaders and the minority whip limited to five minutes each, but in no event shall debate continue beyond 11:50 a.m. the chair recognizes the gentleman from oregon, mr. blumenauer, for five minutes. mr. blumenauer: thank you, mr. speaker. since i was a high school student i've watched the escalation of the war on drugs, especially marijuana. i slowly became aware of its widespread use. as a freshman legislator in oregon 40 years ago, my opinion was set by a hog farmer from eastern oregon who was a state representative named stafford. stafford held the oregon house and the people crowded in the galleries spellbound with his tutorial on marijuana and its comparison to other addictive substances, both legal and illegal. this older gentlemen who didn't smoke, didn't drink alcohol, let alone use marijuana, made his case. he pointed out how tobacco was highly addictive and killed hundreds of thousands of americans per year. he discussed alcohol whose damaging properties had once led the country into a foolish, costly and ultimately self-defeated experiment with prohibition. alcohol use was damaging for some, led to dependency for many while contributing to tens of thousands of highway deaths every year. by the time the representative got to marijuana, he convinced the bill he was advocating to have legalization, something i should advocate, something oregonians should be allowed this choice, less addicting than tobacco. we didn't legalize marijuana in 1973, though i was assured the 22 that voted for the bill had been supported bit people who used it by voted no, the measure would have passed easily. we did make oregon the first state to decriminalize the use of marijuana, possession of a small amount was made a minor infraction, treated like a traffic ticket. today, 40 years later, the case is even more compelling. 14 states have now decriminalized policies like oregon passed in 1973. in 1996, california pioneered the legal use of medical marijuana whose therapeutic qualities have long been known and employed. since then, 18 states and the district of columbia have approved medical marijuana initiatives, allowing its use to relieve chronic pain, ann arboria and other conditions. nearly 2/3 of these approvals were the result of voter initiatives. last fall, voters in colorado and washington approved adult recreational use with 55% approval margins. studies show that a majority of americans now agree that marijuana should be legalized. it is time that the federal government revisit its policies. drugs with less serious classifications like methamphetamine and cocaine have more serious law enforcement, health and behavioral impacts, yet marijuana retains its schedule one classification. in 2011, 2/3 of a million people were arrested for using a substance that millions use, many more have tried, and a majority of americans feel should be legal. because there are stark racial differences and incarceration, there are wide disparities in the legal treatment for communities of color versus their white counterpart. medical marijuana is widely accepted but subject to inherent conflict with federal law that is unfair, confusing and costly. a bipartisan group of legislators is developing a comprehensive package of legislation to clarify and reform outdated, ineffective and unwise federal policies. at a time of great fiscal stress and a sea change in opinion of voters, this is a unique opportunity to save money on enforcement and incarceration, avoid unnecessary conflict and harsh treatment of users, provide a framework for medical marijuana and even reduce the deficit. all by honoring the wish of 2/3 of americans to respect states' rights for marijuana just like we do for alcohol. i would invite my colleagues to join this effort in developing a marijuana policy that makes sense for america today. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from north carolina, mr. coble, for five minutes. mr. coble: i thank the speaker. mr. speaker, january is the traditional month in which new year's resolutions are developed. i'm suggesting that president obama and mrs. boim adopt a resolution -- mrs. obama adopt a resolution. it appears to me, mr. speaker, regard air force one very casually and i believe on some occasions two planes, at least two planes go to the same destination. air force one, mr. speaker, belongs to president and mrs. obama. but air force one also belongs to the american taxpayer. and i would welcome a new year's resolution that would provide generous lace of all future air force one dispatches with prudence, discipline and last but certainly not least fiscal austerity. america's taxpayers will be appreciative. incidentally, mr. speaker, air force one, designated by the air force as dc-25, incurs an operational cost per hour of $179,750, and on some occasions, additional aircraft accompany air force one by naturally adding to the cost. i'm going to now, mr. speaker, insert my -- that involve the former secretary of state, mrs. clinton, during a recent senate hearing. a senator who was examining secretary clinton suggested or implied that the administration may have misstated the nature of the benghazi attack which mrs. clinton responded, what difference at this point does it make? i submit, mr. speaker, that the survivors of the four americans who were murdered at that attack would welcome any information, any and all information surrounding that infamous invasion. the survivors are grieving, and any information that could illuminate in any way this tragic -- the tragedy that occurred in benghazi would welcome any and all information, it seems to me. yes, secretary clinton, at this pount it may well make a difference -- point it make well make a difference. i yield back, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the chair recognizes the gentleman from massachusetts, mr. mcgovern, for five minutes. mr. mcgovern: i ask unanimous consent to address the house for five minutes and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i rise today to talk about the problem of hunger in america. we are the richest, most prosperous nature in the world, yet, the sad fact is that in 2013 more than 50 million people in this country are considered food insecure by the united states department of agriculture. food insecurity, mr. speaker, is a technical term for the hung hery. that's right. there are more than 50 people hung hery people in this country -- hungery people in this country. it's time we end hunger right now. millions of people either lost their jobs or saw their wages fall. food and energy prices went up for many middle and low-income people. everyday costs like rent, utility and food became more difficult and in many cases families were forced to choose between food and electricity. even before the recession started, tens of millions of americans went hungry at some point during the year. that, too, is unconscionable. when we turn this economy around, and it will rebound, we need to end hunger now. we may not be able to wipe out all disease, we probably can't eliminate war, but we have the resources, we know what it takes. we need to muster the will to end hunger once and for all. hunger is a political condition. it's important to point out that even though 50 million people were food insecure, the vast majority had a safety net that prevented them from actually starving. that safety ned is called the supplement -- that safety net is called snap. snap is a program that provides low-income families with food they otherwise could not afford to buy. more than 75 million families relied on snap to provide food for their families. it is a lifeline for these 47 million people who struggle to make ends meet. i don't deny this is a big number, but it's a big number because it's a big problem. mr. speaker, america's hunger problem will be dramatically worse without snap. just imagine what this country would look like if we didn't have the safety net that snap provides for low-income families in this country. our churches, our synagogues and mosques do their best to feed families who need help, but they cannot do it on their home. there are nonprofits and food banks that do as much as they can, but they cannot do it on their own. the private sector simply cannot meet the need. and with the economy not expected to fully recover for sometime, we know that there will continue to be those who struggle to afford food. these are the people we need to worry about. the people we must help, the people who need their neighbors to lend a helping hand. snap, mr. speaker, is a helping hand. we lying on snap is no walk in the park. it is not champagne and caviar. no, mr. speaker. the truth is the average snap benefit is less than $1.50 per meal. there is a common misconception. people say it's a mischaracterization, that snap provides a culture of dependency. some talk about snap like it's a golden ticket, that getting on snap is like winning the lottery. everything is taken care of forever. give me a break. people don't want a handout. they don't want to rely on government assistance. no, mr. speaker, people want to provide for themselves and their families. that's why half of all new snap participants receive benefits for 10 months or less and 70% left the program entirely within two years. i don't know why there is such opposition by some in congress. nor do i understand why people should balance the budget by cutting programs that would help the most vulnerable. people would go hungry because they are poor. 83% of families on snap make less than $20,000 a year for a family of four. less than $24,000 a year. i challenge anyone in this body to live off that income for a year. our budgetary problems are clear. we need to tackle the debt and the deficit, but we need to do so smartly and with reason. there is a reason why not a single deficit proposed from simpson-bowles to sequester cuts snap. that's because it's the most effective anti-hunger program that we have. that's because cutting snap will literally take the food away from families in this country. that's because the authors of these plans, were liberal democrats to conservative republicans all recognize the importance of this program. yet, there are those that would undermine this and other programs that provide protection for those in need. it's time for a nationwide effort to end the scurnl of hunger. i call on the president of the united states to coordinate a white house conference on food and nutrition so we can devise a plan. i call on the leaders of congress to support such an initiative. we need to do more. end hunger now. end hunger now. end hunger now. mr. speaker, we can do this. we must do this. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from north carolina, mr. jones, for five minutes. mr. jones: mr. speaker, thank you very much. i want to thank president obama for his nomination of chuck hagel to be secretary of defense. while we were home last week, i had the opportunity to watch the senate confirmation hearing, and i was dismayed by the way many of the republicans on that hearing chastised mr. hagel. mr. hagel is a man of integrity. i -- the question from one of the senators about, do you think the surge worked, and senator hagel was such he didn't want to give him a direct answer. i would have said no, it didn't work. 1,200 americans killed. i don't know how many iraqis. look at the country today. it is totally falling apart. that was a question towards senator hagel. . the iraq war was very unnecessary. it was manufactured by the previous administration, and there was a marine general, greg newbold, who actually wrote an article in "time" after the war started and one of the points he made that i'm going to share with you, mr. speaker, is some of the missteps included the distortion of intelligence in the buildup to the war. the distortion of intelligence in the buildup to the war. in the history of washington, if ever our government needed integrity, it's now. chuck hagel is a man of integrity. no one can question his integrity. i have had the privilege of knowing senator hagel since 2005 when i came out against the unnecessary war in iraq. senator hagel reached out to me and supported my position and encouraged me in my journey to find out the truth if it was necessary or not. his record speaks for itself. as a noncommissioned officer, he served honorably served this nation in vietnam earning two purple hearts, served on the senate committee on intelligence and committee on foreign relations, swels the president's intelligence agency. and the secretary of defense policy board. no one can argue chuck hagel's experienced. i know that chuck hagel is the right man to lead the department of defense through this very difficult economic time. he's a man that will uphold the constitution and do what is right for this country. our military and the american people need chuck hagel to be the secretary of defense. mr. speaker, before closing i must say that in my many years here in washington of 18 years, i have never known a person with more integrity than senator hagel. and i hope that the senatelogical pass on the confirmation of chuck hagel to be the secretary of defense because america needs him, our military needs him, and it's time for people of integrity to step up and help us fix the problem facing our nation. and he will speak freely and honestly about what is needed to keep a strong military. i yield back the balance of my time. sara: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from illinois, mr. lipinski, for five minutes. mr. lipinski: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i rise today in honor of national catholic schools week. and to recognize the outstanding contributions that catholic schools have made to our nation. catholic schools week was celebrated last week in schools all across the country. as a proud graduate of a catholic grammar school and college prep school and strong supporter of catholic education, i once again this year introduced a resolution honoring catholic schools. h.res. 46 expresses support for the vital contributions of the thousands of calt lick elementary and secondary schools -- catholic elementary and secondary schools in the united states and the key role they play in promoting and ensuring a brighter, stronger future for our nation. i'd like to thank the 28 members who co-sponsored this bipartisan resolution with me. since 1974 the national catholic education association, the united states conference of catholic bishops have organized and planned national catholic schools week. this year's theme, catholic schools raise the standards highlights recent initiatives undertaken by catholic schools across the country to strengthen the already exemplary standards. america's catholic schools produce graduates with the schools and integrity needed by our businesses, governments, and communities emphasizing a well-rounded educational experience in instilling the values of giving back to community and helping others. nearly every catholic school has a community service program. every year their students volunteers half a million hours to their communities. my own decision to pursue a career in public service was in part brought by dedicated teachers throughout my formative years in catholic schools. today over two million elementary and secondary students are enrolled nearly 7,000 catholic schools. these students typically surpass their peers in math, science, reading, history, and geography in any a.p. test. the graduation rate for catholic high school students is 99%. 85% of graduates enroll in four-year colleges. rates well above the national average. as we continually hear the reports of our national test scores, these statistics are truly remarkable and should be commended. notably, the success of catholic schools does not depend on selectivity. catholic schools accept nine out of every 10 students who apply, and are highly effective in providing a quality education for students from every socioeconomic category. especially disadvantaged youth and underserved urban communities. over the past 30 years the percentage of minority students enrolled in catholic schools has more than doubled. and today they constitute almost 1/3 of all catholic school students. in times of economic hardship, catholic schools provide an affordable alternative to other forms of private education. now, in addition to producing well-rounded students, it is estimated that catholic schools save taxpayers over $18 billion annually. the importance of these savings is undeniable as we in congress and lawmakers across the country struggle with budget deficits. i was born and raised in the chicago archdiocese where more than 87,000 students attend 250 schools. in the joliet diocese, 22,000 students are educated in 48 elementary, and seven high schools. in my district alone, there are nearly a dozen catholic high schools and more than 50 grammar schools. including one of the best in my home parish of st. john the cross in western springs. which last year was named the national blue ribbon school by the department of education. the focus of this year's catholic schools week, catholic schools raise the standards, demonstrates the continued commitment to excellence. the national catholic education association has launched an initiative called the national standards and benchmarks for effective catholic elementary and secondary schools. which will make sure that students are consistent -- that standards are consistently high across the country. the dedicated teachers and administrators who work at catholic schools, many of whom could earn much more elsewhere, are instrumental in upholding these standards. in recognizing catholic schools week, we pay a special tribute to professionals who sacrifice so much for their students. during catholic schools week last week, i visited several schools in my district, including st. dennis in lock port, st. alphonse, and others, mr. speaker, i hope my colleagues will join me today in honoring catholic schools and all they contribute to our nation. the speaker pro tempore: the hair recognizes the gentleman from nevada, mr. heck, for five minutes. without objection. mr. heck: mr. speaker, i come to the floor today to bid a solemn and respectful farewell to mr. romeo berras. residents of southern nevada and members of the las vegas mighty 5, a group of filipino american world war ii veterans denied benefits and recognition for their service to the united states. romeo volunteered for the philippine army at age 17 and served in the infantry as a guerrilla fighter. he earned a purple heart for wounds sustained in action and received an honorable discharge. romeo passed away last month at the age of 85. sylveria served under army colonel ramsay of the 26th cavalry. it was this unit that made the last horse charge in cavalry history on january 16, 1942. after his discharge, he took up the cause of his fellow denied veterans and fought for their compensation ever since. that fight ended two weeks ago in las vegas. he was 100 years old. he they along with their countrymen fought and in instances died in the command of american troops in the pacific theater in world war ii. after helping the allies win the war in the pacific, many of these veterans began seeking the benefits promised to them by president flange lynn roosevelt. but -- franklin roosevelt. but on february 18, 1946, president harry s. truman signed the rescission act of 1946 into law which denied over 200,000 filipino world war ii veterans the benefits promised to them five years earlier by president roosevelt. congress finally acknowledged the dedicated service of many of these he denied veterans when it established the filipino veterans equity compensation fund in 2009. but many of these veterans, as many as 24,000, still have not received compensation due to bureaucratic hurdles and paperwork shuffles over the types of records they told verifying their service. the mighty five is now reduced to two with the passing of romeo and sylverio. i fear many more will pass without ever obtaining the recognition they deserve if this body does not act to remove the barriers preventing these veterans from receiving the benefits they have earned. yesterday i introduced legislation to ensure that the remainder of the mighty 5, and denied filipino veterans everywhere, finally receive the benefits promised to them so many years ago. my bill, mr. speaker, is very simple. it directs the department of the army to certify the service of any filipino world war ii veteran whose name appears on the approved, revised, reconstructed guerrilla roster or certified documentation from the u.s. army or philippine government attesting their service. simply put, these men fought so the allies could defeet the japanese in the pacific. if they could show they fought, let's fulfill their promise to them so they could live out their years knowing the united states has officially recognized their service. i have met with them many times in las vegas. all they want is to be recognized. it's not about the money to them. they want to know that their service was appreciated, that their sacrifices did not go unnoticed. as i attended the funeral last week, no flag draped his casket. no honor guard was present. and there was no playing of taps. there was no official recognition of his dedicated military service. and that, mr. speaker, was wrong. i'd like to thank my friends and brother veterans for their service to our country, their passion and dedication to this cause will be missed. mr. speaker, i urge my colleagues to join me in fighting to ensure these honorable world war ii veterans are appropriately recognized and yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizings the gentlewoman from florida, ms. wilson, for five minutes. ms. wilson: thank you, mr. speaker. afraid, the world has coined to speak internationally about violence, abuse, rape, assault, and disrespect of women. women like our mothers, grandmothers, sisters, aunts, nieces, friends, and most especially, our children. gender-based violence permeates the world. generally in far away countries. far from the civilized democratic world that we communicate with. to the women of this congress and the women of the world, take a moment to imagine trying to survive without a response from the police, without the ability to press charges, and being able to actually speak day after day if you are a victim of gender-based violence. contemplate life without exaccess to medical care, to address your physical, mental, and emotional trauma. imagine having nowhere to hide. this scenario sounds like 100 years ago and a world far from our country, but in reality it is just a two-hour flight away from my congressional discontribute -- district of miami, florida. it actually describes gender-based violence in haiti. but through smart policy and the strength and courage of haitian women, it's a reality that's within our power to change. the 2010 earthquake in haiti brought a striking increase in incidents of gender-based violence. nearly half of the victims are girls under 18. in many cases involves the use of weapons, gang rape, and death threats for seeking help for authorities. these threats, coupled with the lack of police presence and equipment, hurts the integrity of haiti's legal system and denies women and girls their basic dignity. the national penitentiary was destroyed in the earthquake, freeing hundreds and countless violent prisoners who now rome the streets -- roam the streets. through the determination and grace of the haitian people and smart assistance from the obama administration, an international field some change is coming to haiti. . jobs have been created, schools have been built, yet, gender-based violence remains severe. today i'm introducing a resolution calling attention to the plight of haitian women and children and calling for action on their behalf. with the strategy to prevent gender-based violence, the obama administration is on the right track. congress and the administration must ensure robust funding for these initiatives, including the u.s. agency of international development, gender equality and female empowerment policy to meet the continuing need. for me, this issue is personal. i've seen the tent cities firsthand. i have spoken with the women. i have counseled the victims and witnessed the scars of indignation and pain. i feel the anguish in my bones. but i also feel the hope. let's work together to ensure that no woman in haiti, no woman in this hemisphere or in this world has to bear the indignity of sexual violence. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from north carolina, ms. foxx, for five minutes. ms. foxx: thank you, mr. speaker. the constitution of the united states of america was written to put in statute the limits of government's authority over citizens. it does not bestow rights or permit freedoms upon american people. rather, it delimits what government of the people, by the people and for the people can and cannot do. since well before our country's founding, americans have exercised the right to keep and bear arms, a right formerly protected by the ratification of the second amendment in 1791. as a life-long defender of second amendment freedoms, i am committed to ensuring that any new proposals considered in washington do not infringe upon the constitutionally guaranteed right of law-abiding citizens. in the wake of devastating tragedies, well-meaning people feel compelled to do something, and the government likewise to intercede. but good intentions don't often make good or constitutional laws, and they certainly are no match for those set on being lawless. the second amendment reads, a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. if the text alone were not explicit, our founding fathers clarified the purpose of the second amendment. james madison wrote in federalist number 46 that americans possess the, quote, the advantage of being armed over the people of almost every other nation whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms, end quote. even more applicable to our current situation is this excerpt referenced by thomas jefferson which reads, quote, laws that forbid the caring of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants, end quote. the rush to action in the wake of tragedies sadly heaps the price of criminal wrongdoing onto law-abiding responsible gun owners. when such is the case, government flirts with construing the desire to exercise second amendment rights as suspect behavior. it deems some second amendment utilities superior to others and it ignores the root causes of mass violence, focusing instead on the means by which violence is accomplished. those mistakes must never be made. federal proposals must be well thought, data-driven and constitutionally sound. the right to keep and bear arms is not one for hunters and sportsmen alone. for centuries it has been a right for every american citizen to arm themselves to defend their property and the people they hold dear, and it is a right that cannot be infringed. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from virginia, mr. connolly, for five minutes. mr. connolly: thank you, mr. speaker, and i can't resist by saying the second amendment right does not preclude background checks to protect the very people we represent. mr. speaker, the supreme court ruling last summer on the affordable care act was a victory for all american families and small businesses, especially, by ensuring that our constituents have access to affordable quality health insurance. the ruling preserved the integrity of medicaid partnerships between the states and the federal government, giving governors the opportunity to accept to pay the cost for expanding low-income residents who might otherwise not have access to health insurance. though, some of my republican colleagues remain opposed to the act, i'm pleased to see republican governors, including those from nevada, new mexico, arizona and now ohio putting policy ahead of politics to support this expansion of medicaid. those governors have acknowledge that they were motivated not only by the desire to reduce the number of uninsured but also by the compelling business case. medicaid expansion is part of the vision for new continuum of coverage that will begin in 2014 when the major provisions from the affordable care act takes effect. this will fill the long-standing gap in medicaid coverage for low-income adults by expanding eligibility for those earning up to 133% of the federal poverty level. as of 2011, there were 48 million nonelderly uninsured in america. as an incentive for states to expand coverage for those folks, the a.c.a. commits the federal government for paying 100% of additional costs for covering them, and after 2016, 90% thereafter. i wrote the republican governor of my state and the general assembly membership urging them to join us in extending this critical health care coverage. the virginia general assembly is currently divided on the matter, but i was encouraged last week by the announcement from our republican lieutenant governor who said there is no state better prepared to move forward with this reform and the coverage expansion of it than the commonwealth of virginia. like me, lieutenant governor bowling understands the economic benefits for virginia. expanding medicaid will help 300,000 virginiaans get access to health care -- virginians get access to health care coverage who currently have none and will help them. the cost of going to the emergency room is borne by hospitals and those who are insured through their premiums. the governor's advisory commission on health reform said expanding medicaid, coupled with other reforms in the act, will reduce uncompensated care in virginia by more than half. under the affordable care act, virginia would receive more than $9.2 billion in the first five years. a recent state analysis shows that during that same time period, virginia would actually save $300 million by expanding coverage. and virginia's cost on the first 10 years now estimated at $137 million are considerably less than originally estimated and a great return on that investment. time is running out, and our residents cannot afford for states to miss this opportunity. in fact, i believe they will be making such a historic mistake that i am proposing an additional incentive to help motivate those governors might not still be convinced. this week i introduced the medicaid expansion act. it has a use it or lose it provision. we'll ship those dollars to other states who are willing to partner with us to help the cost and expand their coverage. just so the residents of a particular state are fully aware of thousand their governor's decision is affecting them, my bill will require h.h.s. to publicize the list of states not partnering with us, giving up this opportunity and the amount of money their governor has left on the table and the number of uninsured who will thereby not be covered. the affordable care act is the law of the land, and residents of any state should not be penalized because of their governor's ideological agenda. the choices we face are tremendous. we will -- will we move forward together to implement those historic reforms and reverse the unsustainable trajectory of spiraling prices or will we slip this -- hor will we realize savings and spur economic activity? i hope more economic governors, including my own, will follow the lead of their colleagues elsewhere and put citizens' health ahead of partisan orthodoxy. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from tennessee, mrs. black, for five minutes. mrs. black: thank you, mr. speaker. in the year 2000 congress created the u-visa program as a way to allow illegal immigrant crime victims and temporary, a temporary legal status in order to assist in law enforcement in the prosecution of their assailant, which has helped bring thousands of criminals to justice. however, over time the u-visa has become a pathway to citizenship for essentially everyone who applies. the rampant abuse of this program is detrimental to law-abiding individuals who seek to integrate to our country through the proper legal channels. we are a nation of immigrants, and we are also a nation built upon respect for the rule of law. our heritage and our principles demand us -- demand of us the courage to reform our broken immigration system so that those who follow the law and want to contribute to the betterment of our nation will have the opportunity to do so. that is why i have introduced the u-visa reform act of 2013 to stop abuses in the u-visa program. i urge my colleagues to join me in support of this commonsense piece of legislation. thank you and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from georgia, mr. scott, for five minutes. mr. scott: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today to bring note to the fact that for the fourth time in five years president obama has once again delayed in bringing his budget to the congress and the american people. people say that our national debt is unacceptable. they tell me it is holding america back of economic prosperity and robbing their children for a dream. the president has turned a deaf ear on the pleas of these americans. he's been asked to take this country's economy seriously. he's chosen to spend his time in other countries, taking family vacations and playing countless games of golf. hardworking taxpayers know that work must come before play, mr. president. americans must forfeit their own vacations due to the uncertainty in the economy. while the president crisscrosses the world, avoiding the priorities back at home, americans are nervous. every year our country goes without a budget the national debt sky rockets, the uncertainty of american businesses grow and with that unemployment goes up. without a federal budget, business owners cannot plan, they cannot plan for the president's new regulations or his tax increases and therefore it is all the more difficult for them to expand their businesses and create jobs in america. to add to the uncertainty, the president's proposed sequestration is set to take effect this march. despite his promise, his promise to the american people that it would never actually happen, the president has yet to take any steps to undo this harmful measure. he has shown absolute indifference to the millions of americans whose livelihoods will be severely impacted by his sequestration. house republicans have twice passed legislation to replace the president's sequester with commonsense reforms that will reduce spending, preserve and strengthen our safety net for generations and preserve our national defense. this week the house will pass a budget but it will be a responsible budget that will balance. one that will aim to grow the economy, drive down unemployment, expand opportunity and prosperity for the private sector and ensure that america maintains its leading role in the world as a strong national defender. americans can do this. we just need a president to put work before play. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield the remainder of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from michigan, mr. bentviolio, for five minutes. mr. bentviolio: thank you, mr. speaker. thank you for allowing me to speak today. i have said it before and i will say it again. the job of the congress is to protect the rights of the american people, not take them away. i want to explain what i mean by that. they are outlined in our declaration of independence, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. these rights were not given by a king or developed after extensive debate by a congress. they come from god. they exist in the same way that gravity exists. they are natural. but too often gets left out is why we must protect those rights and why those rights are still relevant today. . the ripe is simple and as practical today as it was in 1776. we protect those rights because in america we know that freedom leads to prosperity. our country was built by forefathers who believed in and defended that idea. every generation that came after them was -- has followed their lead. rising to tackle whatever challenge came before them in order to protect the freedom of this nation. every american generation has left the country a little better off than they found it and handed it to their sons and daughters with the hope they would do the same. thinking both about those who came before us and those who will follow us long after we are gone is in the very d.n.a. of our country. that's why our constitution's preamble explicitly states that it doesn't secure liberty for just the founding generation, but also for prosperity. generations don't simply disappear, instead like an aging photograph, they kind of fade away until they are all gone. right now one of america's greatest generations is doing just that. in world war ii, hundreds of thousands of americans risked their lives on battlefields half away -- a half a world away while the rest of them worked and sacrificed at home to make sure our troops had everything they needed. the reason they acted so valiantly was because they understood the truth to american exceptionalism. that freedom leads to prosperity. they knew it and they fought for it because it had been passed down to them from their parents who had received it from their parents and so on. to them it was something worth fighting for. it was worth making sacrifices for. it was worth dying for. not a day goes by where i don't think about their sacrifices and remember what they did for me and everyone else in this great country. they deserve to be taken care of. that is why i urge my fellow members of the house from both parties to join me in supporting the full faith and credit act. as we work to secure the government's addiction to debt, we must ensure that the greatest generation is protected. they have already made their sacrifices in the defense of our ideals. they have already passed down freedom to us and given us a country that is better off. we cannot be the first generation to fail america. we must follow the path of our founding fathers by preserving the american dream for our children and grandchildren. one great idea to preserve our great nation was developed by our speaker, john boehner. in the days before the midterm elections of 2010, speaker boehner proposed taking a different approach regarding how congress voted on budgets. he he maintained rather than having a comprehensive budget that encompasses all or at least most of government appropriations, the whole congress should treat every budget for each federal agency as an independent spending bill. he said, members shouldn't have to vote for big spending increases at the labor department in order to fund health and human services. members shouldn't have to vote for big increases at the commerce department just because they support nasa. each department agency should justify itself each year to the full house and senate and be judged on its own. that is the kind of leadership that americans across this great land support. those are the types of ideas we need to enact in order to take on the challenges that are ahead. i urge my fellow congressmen to appeal to the better angels of their nature as we spend the great -- next few months talking about our government's addiction to debt. let's solve this problem. thank you. i yield back. search the gentleman yields back. -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the >> lawmakers are back this week from a district court time meeting with constituents. what is on the agenda this week? >> the only bill they are going to be voting on it is one that will require the plan act sponsored by tom price. sources have told me the idea came out with meetings with the majority leader and a round table. it would require that when the president submits his budget to congress, which was supposed to be due today, when he does that it will identify a year with the budget. if he does not identify the year, he would have to go back and submit a second budget. for that to go into affect the senate would have to pass it as well. in would not happen with a bill like this. it'll send a message. >> house republicans are saying this is necessary. why is that? >> the president and his first term was late in three out of four. he missed the deadline. they say they want to make sure that there is some sort of fiscal responsibility coming out of the white house. they want to balance the budget. they have identified a goal of 10 years to balance its. even though the paul ryan to more than 20 to balance. they want to put the president on the record as saying it is this way and by this time. >> what are house democrats thing about this bill? will they vote in favor? >> no. i would be surprised. some of the other fiscally conservative democrats might consider voting for this is because it would go pretty well in the districts. i would venture to say the vast majority of democrats think this is a gimmick, and this is something that is more of a messaging build than a substantive bill. i doubt we will see too much support from them. >> house democrats have private party meetings outside the capital scheduled for later. what kind of issues are likely to come up? >> the democrats are meeting in leesburg. it is the same kind of thing republicans did a couple of weeks ago. they meet every year into a stand-up of the party. what is our role of? power we going to work with the president? how are we going to work again house republicans? in the meantime, at the conservative republicans are meeting in baltimore at the same time this weekend's to meet with the heritage foundation retreat. we will have all kinds of sessions talking about how the conservatives will exist as a unit. there is a lot of soul-searching going on. >> what other legislative issues comice the republicans take up? >> we have to deal with sequestration and resolutions that will expire next month. we have a lot of big ticket fiscal issues looming. i would expect that something that would deal with those would come up. paul brian is putting the budget itself together. we will have that in april or so. as well as competing budget blueprints from democrats, republicans said the committee. >> you can read this work. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> the house later today with the bill requiring the president to submit a proposal to balance the budget, house leaders spoke with reporters, talking about this. did the president of this afternoon will ask congress to come up with tens of billions of dollars in short-term revenue. here are the leaders from earlier today. >> it feels the same. high unemployment. rising prices. more debt for our kids and grandkids. a government spending creates economic growth, we should not be having any of these problems at all. solving problem starts with what every family does every month. they have got to have a budget. the budget is late again. democrats have done a budget of nearly four years. none of them have a plan to replace the sequester. that is why republicans badged been no rabbit -- caskey no budget, no reform act. it would require the president to submit a plan that would balance the budget. the sooner we saw are spending problem, the sooner our jobs problem will go away as well. >> good morning. i want to thank tom price for bringing forward the require a plan act. it says to the president, please join us in doing as your job. we will continue to put forward a plan that manages to cut down the deficit 10 years. we want to see how long he thinks it should take to balance the budget and how he is going to do it. all of us are here trying to improve the budget for all americans. the way to do that is to get our work done here. and see how it is that we can make their life better going into the future. >> with our trillion dollar deficit, one thing the american public expected is a budget. the budget act of 1921 requires that the president some at a budget on the first monday in february. he has had five opportunities to do it. he has missed the deadline. if any of our baseball fans, that is adding to under average. you know he is now just a mendoza line. it is about mario mendoza, and the line you talk about a player if they come incompetence. the american public expects more and more accountability. >> yesterday it was mentioned at the president for the fourth time out of the last five years failed to meet his legal requirement to submit a budget to congress. the president and the senate democrats are failing on what is really the most fundamental part of governing. the fundamental responsibility in governing, which is budgeting. if not, washington suffers. it is a hard-working americans. it is the moms. did the dads. did the recent college graduates that cannot make decisions to move forward. when washington is the biggest obstacle to economic growth we have a problem. we are not going to have people who know how to make hiring decisions will be able to move forward until there is a budget in place. households understand that if you do not have a budget you are going to fail. washing, d.c. and the federal government is in the same boat. this will require the president to lead the american people know when he plans to balance the budget. it is the first steps to not only getting our fiscal house in order but allowing our economy to move forward some people can make decisions to invest and have their businesses succeed. >> most americans know that when it comes to the safety and security of their families, a series of plans are required. that is why when my family was young we called a family meeting and discussed what we would do in the event of a fire at night. my son was born at the time. his plan was he always wore his superman pajamas to bed complete with a cape. his plan was to karate chop his window out and write his superman cape down to the brickyard and he would meet us there. we came up with a more serious plan to save his life. if you listen to adam ramallah, the former chair of the -- admiral mullen, the former chair, the biggest threat to the cities is national debt. it'll be good to have a group of adults that have come up with a plan to address this issue. we put forward budgets that show the american people how to balance a budget. we will do so again this year. we challenge the senate democrats to do the same. they have not prepared a budget in for years. we of the president takes off his superman kate and -- cape and scent of a serious plan. serious times require serious planning. >> we are the minority party in washington. we are the majority in the house, but we do not control the senate and the white house, because one of the responsibilities of the minority party is to hold a majority toecap and provide a contrast. two weeks ago we passed a bill to force the senate to adopt a budget, to hold them to account, and allow for a contrast for the american people to see. this week i am pleased to join the leadership in putting forward the require a plan act that requires the president to put a plan in place to balance the budget in a 10-year time, but if you do not, tell us when it does come out tell us when it balances. and businesses must plan for a balanced budget. it is time to the presenident to step up. put forward a budget entellus when it will be balanced. >> in indiana, we have had a balanced budget for the last seven years. it takes leadership, courage, and a plan. to do it, the president and senate democrats have got to stop pretending, start meeting with the plan, because we know with leadership and courage with a plan, it can be done. the require a plant at is all about common sense. like the super bowl, athletes have plants. families have plants, whether a retirement plan, helped plan, whether an education plan for their families. businesses have strategic plans. right now our country does not have a plan, and america deserves a plan. the facts speak gladly. the senate has not pass a budget in four years. the president missed his deadline again, and it is time for the american people to get what they deserve, a credible budget plan. every dollar the government spends is a dollar that somebody else hard, so let's earned the respect of the american people by giving them a spending plan, and i am proud to be here with leadership and the house republicans to turn our challenges into our biggest opportunities. the require a plan act is about planning, and not attending. >> house leaders for about an hour ago talking about the so- called require a plan bill, which requires the president toured submit to congress a plan to balance the budget over the next 10 years. the house will gavel in in about an hour. in the seventh, they are off today, so members can attend the annual party retreats. when they return on thursday, senators will work on reauthorizing the violence against women act that it's part -- that expired in to us alive. also live today, at 1:00 p.m., eric cantor of virginia will give a domestic policy speech at the american enterprise institute. that will be on c-span2. at 2:00 eastern, congressional budget officer douglas amador will present projections -- elmendorf will present projections. also, a gun trafficking legislation news conference on c-span3 at 2:00 eastern. >> julia left her time in the white house. she sat in her memoirs and was like a bright and beautiful dream, the most wonderful time of my life. i think that gives you some idea of how much she enjoyed being first lady and how much she felt that her husband had finally achieved the recognition he deserved. >> julia grant, who married u.s. grant. "first ladies," their public and private lives, there and listen -- their influence. beginning february 18 at 9:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. >> afternoon, the president will ask congress to come up with tens of billions of dollars in short-term spending cuts and tax revenue papaw off the automatic across-the-board cuts scheduled to kick in in march. budget and the date from this morning's "washington journal." host: we are back with congressman mcdermott, the ranking democrat on the house subcommittee. let me read to you from "the national journal bailey," and what they had to say about sequestration -- national journal daily," and what they had to say about sequestration. host: true, accurate reporting? caller: -- guest: as far as what i can tell, that is exactly what is happening. unfortunately for the american people, the leadership on the republican side is still acting as though the election never occurred. they have got to except that the people have said that they once what obama is doing. they reelected him overwhelmingly. and they have to work to make that happen. unfortunately, they are still trying to block things. we have kicked the fiscal problems down to the end of march and i suspect we will kick them down to the end of june. we will just keep doing this and never get to the real problems that face this country. host: why not come to an agreement on this? this editorial from "usa today," saying that even if the sequestration happened, it would barely even touch the government's borrowing trajectory. guest: first of all, the republicans need to admit that this is not a spending problem, it is a revenue problem. they paid for two -- they put up two wars that we never paid for. they are simply willing to spend money. they gave tax cuts and never paid for them. in the end they have eroded the revenue of the government. some of it is coming back. the wars are winding down. the economy is picking up. but there is a real health care problem that we have to deal with at some point. it will take some revenue. you cannot just do it by magically saying that it will fallout of the sky. you cannot cut enough to get the debt down without talking about revenue. i think it they did a little bit here at the end of january 3. everyone gave the office and will not give again. host: this editorial from "usa today," de say that it is not a spending problem -- but "usa today," others, saying that it is. guest: let me explain. the average cost spent on a senior citizen in medicare is flat. it went up 0.4% last year. it is flat spending. the fact is that beginning in 2011, all the children born after the second world war, the so-called baby boomers, are coming on. when i came to congress in 1989 there were 35 million seniors on medicare. 30 million people altogether. -- 40 million people altogether. on to medicare. we simply have got to deal with the fact that the population is going to need more spending. it is not that spending is out of control, but republicans, what they are saying is that they want to do is keep them from getting on to the program. that is why they want to talk about raising the retirement age from 65 to 72 or 80. that would really solve the problem for the government, but not for the senior citizens or the american people. they would still have to find a way to cover their health-care costs. what they would do is do what they did before medicare. turn to their children. your mother or father would come to you and say -- i have no money to take -- to go to the doctor, can you take care of this bill? that is what happened before 1964. now they are saying they want your mother to be 75? from 65 to 75? they are not saying that, but if you look at what is going on, democrats are simply not willing to do that. we are going to find the money to cover all of the senior citizens in this program at 65. host: no cuts and but -- no cuts to benefits, democrats will stand by that? guest: democrat -- benefits are rising. benefits are not rising. we have provided a number of revenue -- host: to the doctors. guest: hospitals, doctors, providers, there are all sorts of ways to save money. it is saying to doctors -- be more efficient. the united states spends 18% of their gross domestic product on health care. in france they spend 11%. in germany it is 12%. we are spending way more and do not have everyone covered. is an inefficient system and it is the inefficiency that needs to be driven out. right now there is an incentive where a doctor gets paid more if he does more. that is the wrong incentives. the incentive should be that you get paid more if i keep you healthy and that does not mean doing more tests or x-rays or anything else, it means understanding your disease and managing it affectively. -- effectively. host: john boehner came to the floor yesterday. talking about president obama and the budget, here is what he had to say. [video clip] >> the president believes we should not be having these problems. maybe then it would not be so disappointing that his budget is late. well, we are having trouble in large part because spending is the problem. it chases jobs overseas and causes anxiety about the future. one example about something the president's budget could have address is the sequester. that is washington speak for automatic spending cuts. this was first proposed by the president in 2011, insisting that it be part of the debt limit agreement. the house has passed legislation to replace the sequester with common sense reforms to preserve and strengthen our safety net for future generations. host: congressman, your reaction? guest: first of all, when you have the problem but he had, until the third of january it is very hard for the people of the white house to put a budget together when they cannot get resolution on the issues at the last minute. the fact that it has drifted over a few days, it will come out in the next week or so. that is no catastrophe, not the end of the world as we know it. really, it is directly related to the extension that we went through during a lame-duck session. you should not word that use cut -- you should not use that word, spending and spending. he never talks about what we spend it on. he never says that the wars were a bad idea or that the giving of tax rates was a bad idea, or that medicare part b, the drug benefit without paying for it was a bad idea. he just says that they were spending too much. they were in charge when those things were put in. now they need to put on the table what they want to cut back. they want to cut the military and make this across the board slashing out of everything. that is nonsensical. you should know what you are cutting. i believe in surgery, not a meat ax. host: on medicare, what would happen? guest: an interesting question. no one has given us what they would cut out. 10% of the patients getting paid for? doctors getting 10% less? there is no specificity. you can sit here and talk -- we should just cut across the board. let's talk specifically about how it affects -- they will not come to the table and -- you see, this test to start in the house. constitution makes this a house responsibility, not a presidential responsibility. if they want to do that, lay it on the table. let me see the specifics of what you want to cut. then we could have a discussion. host: all right, carl, chicago, let's get the viewers involved. carl, go ahead. caller: power you, greta? host: good morning. caller code to make two points -- caller: to make two points, we can afford it. second, we have been going through 20 years of trickle- down economics. the prosperity in the country was measured in dollars and could be anywhere from one quarter of $1 trillion per year to $1 trillion dollars per year. according to david stockton, only 10% of americans share their prosperity. we have the money in this country to do these things, we basically just -- i am not trying to put this on republicans, the economics we're following right now, these economics, they are around the world benefiting from this. we have to do something about taking this out of the health- care system. guest: i agree with your analysis. we have the money in this country to pay for health care for all of our senior citizens. there is no question that we have the money. if the swedes, the germans, and the italians can do a, the united states can do it. anyone who says that we cannot is down selling america, far as i am concerned. there is a question about the revenue. when george bush came into office, he had a surplus. he was worried about a surplus. he began to give tax breaks. the original tax breaks of george bush, along came 9/11, then you were into war in afghanistan. and these are all things that we did while we look at where the money was coming from. we can do anything he want to. fairly. it is not fair right now when the top .10% of 1% is accumulating money at a rate that is unbelievable for those of us in the lower half of the economic ladder. the number one cause of bankruptcies in this country is healthcare bills. the average american is scared to death that they will get sick and they will not be covered. we have inequities that we could fix with the tax structure. it is a matter of political will. host: edward. caller: thank you for taking my call. representative, i have been around for a while, and george bush did not inherit a surplus. it was on paper. as far as him going along with spending programs, i do think he was trying to appease the democrats. i thought it was wrong then. when obama went into office, he upped the government agencies, doubled, tripled their budgets, and now you do not want to come to a fair and equitable conclusion. you want to say it is the revenue. how about all government agencies, all employees go to a flat $82,000 a year? -- $52,000 a year? thank you. guest: we could spend much more time talking about the economic situation george bush inherited. the fear was the united states would have no debt and wall street said that was a bad situation. that is why he gave away the tax breaks in 2000 when he came in. you want to keep a certain amount of debt in the economic system so that we can trade paper in other countries for borrowing money. that whole system was thrown off by the fact that two wars were not paid for and we did not pay for the tax cuts. they were given away as if we did not need them. it was part of the surplus. the business about going to $52,000, i am not sure why you would pick that number, but in a society where we want people to have a living wage, $52,000 is a real struggle to rid there are people making $52,000 -- struggle. there are people making $52,000 that are struggling. that is a soviet answer. i am not sure how you come up with $52,000. why? host: entitlement spending, if you could, if you support it or not, raising the eligibility age, you say you are not open to that. guest: we already have a means testing, but one of the dangers of doing that is if you make it so tough, people would say why should we have the program? i am not benefiting from it. we want a program that covers everyone in the country. it is a social insurance program. if you are rich, we do not say the fire department will not come put the fire out. on police and roads we do not means test. we do not say if you have a lot of money you have to pay $25 every time you backed out of your garage. that is not how society works. host: health-care entitlements could require more out-of- pocket from patients. guest: the average senior is spending $3000 a year, not paying for eye glasses or hearing aids. they are paying for a lot. they are averaging $5,000. it is easy for a congressman to talk with an idea like that, but when you think about senior citizens living under $40,000, and that is the average, how do you say you should pay more than $5,000? you should find ways to make it more efficient. host: the formulas used for cost-of-living increases could be tweaked to make the raises slightly less generous. guest: that is an interesting idea. it costs what it costs. if you and i throw in an extra dollar or $10 -- we saw some cheese in the grocery store, it cost six dollars, or $10, it is not a big deal, but if you are living on social security, that is 2500 maximum per month come a paying rent -- per month, paying rent, you do not have the extra money. it is an easy idea but it does not solve the problem had -- problem. host: "usa today writes" -- guest: if you are going to say that you get what you pay for, you will have an unjust society. there is not any one of us that has not benefited from the contributions of other people. i went to a university medical school and paid $800 a year in 1963. i could not have paid for that out of my own pocket. the people of illinois paid for that medical school. today, we have shifted the cost to the dr.. -- on to the doctor. the average dr. comes out $175,000 in debt at age 25. you could shift the cause -- cost and say whatever you get, doctors will pay a lot of money to pay off that debt. you do not get anything for free. host: you where the chief psychologist at long beach naval station in california. how long did you practice? guest: i came out of training in july, 1968, went to the united states navy, and belt with peak -- dealt with people coming back from "apocalypse now," essentially. the involvement that john kerry had, i saw the people on those boats. host: did that inspire you to run for congress, serving in your 13th term? guest: absolutely, i came back in july of 1970 and was elected. i think war was generally destructive. that is why i opposed the iraq war. i have seen the movie before. i know what is coming back from iraq and afghanistan and i did not want it to happen. we are inundated with suicide and all kinds of problems in our society. that had an impact on me, john kerry, chuck hagel -- a lot of us went through all of us to understand what war is all about. host: a little background as we talk to jim mcdermott. wayne, a question or comment for the congressman. caller: healthcare, medicare stuff like that, -- medicare should stay with the younger -- elder folks that earned it. healthcare, right now, it should be with the company's. -- companies. right now i am with a -- i am a truck driver. we have to pay for our own medicare. say i am making $10 an hour, and they tell me monthly i have to pay $600 a month just to cover my family insurance, just to cover my medicare. that hurts. that hurts me. that is taking more money out of my pocket just to cover my family when we are spending on food, clothing and everything else. host: you are on medicare and not medicaid? caller: medicaid also. medicaid is the government had -- government. the government gives you the tools to get medicare, but that is coming out of my pocket also. it is coming out of us, middle- class people. host: let's get a response from the congressman. guest: the way i look at the society, we have to think about the common good, and i believe we all pay taxes and we should get help with the problems that face us. if it is medicare, which people pay their entire life, at 65 they start to draw medicare. if it is medicaid, the state program that the federal government pays 50% of, it is a program for people that have reduced income, up to 130% of income -- 138% of income. -- of poverty. it is for very poor people were people that cannot cover their problems. if a society is going to say -- be humane -- we could tell people tough luck. die in teh strereet. you could see that in some countries in the world, but that is not the american way. the american way is to help the person in the street and do it collectively. through the tax system. can do it. we have a problem because medicare has been so successful. the length of life has gone up 10 years. when it was designed, it was not designed for people to last as long as they are. when i was a kid if somebody was 80 years old, you thought they were really old. today, 90 years old is almost nothing. as they live longer, this use more resources. it is a problem for society, but we have the ability. americans can do it. they do not have to say you cannot have health care, or you are on your own. that is what i do not like about the things that republicans offer as answers, which generally amount to you are on your own. host: run on twitter says we are -- ron twitter says we are spending 40% of gdp on administrative overhang -- room for growth area -- growth. guest: i am not sure where he is getting those figures. host: in "the wall street journal" this morning, an aversion to new taxes is squeezing most remaining government activity. guest: i would basically agree to that. there is basically an aversion to paying taxes, and we have deficits caused by wars, tax cuts, and all of the things that we talked about, and there are more people retiring. now, we could say that is too bad, they lived to long -- right -- too long -- one i was growing up, my grandmother had no medicare, no social security, and she lived with her daughters. we took care of her. i got thrown out of my bedroom. i slept on the couch in the living room because that is how families took care of seniors before 1964. now we have a medicare program, where my father lived to 93, my mother lived to 97, and we did nothing for them except pay for their taxes. one year we gave my mom a christmas gift, a hearing aid which cost about $800. a lot of money. we chipped in. that was her christmas gift. host: medicare does not cover that? guest: medicare does not cover that. good luck, you are on your own is what we say to seniors. my view is we are a better country than that. we can find a way to do that. we can make this system more efficient. there are too many mri's done. there is a lot of stuff done in this country where people are getting treatment or examinations that are not making their health better or their life better. we have to look at that and stop doing that kind of stuff. that means with the healthcare profession, everyone has to figure out the most efficient way to do it. host: how long will that take? guest: the pressure is on us, and people will do what has to be done when they realize we only have so much money, so many people to take care of, and we have to figure out how to do it. they will do it. doctors and people that run hospitals are smart, and they like the way it is going now. host: larry, tennessee. democratic caller. caller: we have a lot of people in this country not doing too well, but politicians and rich people seem to be doing pretty well. i got a real problem. politicians built their own pay raises, their own benefit. republicans have problems with unions. they get together and vote for their own salaries, but they do not want people to do it. i got a real problem with these people. they are in office, tell a time they die they have no problem with government paying for them. they do not want to do anything for the common man. i want to make a comment on the austerity. austerity -- everything they tried, the economy did not want. we need to put money into the hands of working people, and this country will take off again. host: larry, we got your comments. congressman? guest: let me deal with the issue of a. -- of pay. we have not had a pay raise in three years and congress has not given itself a cost-of-living increase. we are federal employees come a entitled to benefits -- employees, entitled to benefits that any other federal employee. let me get to the issue of austerity, cutting and cutting -- it has not work in ireland, spain or great britain. we have to keep investing in a society. after the second world war, we were in debt, but we made a huge investment, the g.i. bill, handing a college education to every man and woman at served in -- who served in the military and said you are entitled to a college education, and we were investing in the minds of people. we created the power and the creativity of this country by that investment. we are now putting all the cost of college on the kids, so they are now coming out in debt and they wonder if it is worth going to college because they cannot find a job. so my belief is the government needs to continue to stimulate. in the infrastructure, it was a republican by the name of eisenhower that put the highway system in place -- that was a major investment to put roads all over this country. now they are deteriorating, bridges are falling down, and we say we do not have the money to fix the roads. nonsense. we have to fix the roads, we have to upgrade the water systems, deal with broadband and all of those things around the computer if we are going to continue to compete with the world. we have to keep investment -- investing. it is like saying for a house you will never fix the roof, paint the walls, just let it happen. no. you have to protect investments by continuing to invest. host: kathleen. florida. republican caller. caller: good morning. host: good morning. guest: how are you? caller: i am fine, thank you. i do not understand how anyone can talk about how little the seniors get. i am -- i have more than one friend on medicaid, subsidized housing, delivery of their drugs, food stamps -- you reference an income on social security of about 2500. i am in my 70's and i do not get half of that. i cannot get any benefits. politicians talk about how wonderful healthcare is in spain, this country and that country. you try going to any of those countries when you are not a citizen and get care. part of the problem we have here is there is absolutely no requirement for people who are here in emergency rooms because they have a cough or a sniffle, but if i go to the emergency room and i do not have insurance, i cannot get care. host: we will have the congressman respond, kathleen. guest: let me take the last example because i think it is a great one to talk about the waste in our system. if you have doctors, medical homes, people that know you that you can get to when you have a problem, you can get to them and it costs very little. if you go to the emergency room at your local hospital, it will cost $1000 to walk in and open up a room. that is what they bill insurance companies. now, that is a waste of $1000 because it could have been done for maybe $50 with a visit to the dr. and our system is filled with those kind of problems. if we set up clinics so that people could go see professionals, nurses come or physician's assistants or physicians, and not go to the emergency room, we could save enormous amounts of money. we simply have to develop those clinics. they are doing that in parts of the country had -- country. in the state of washington people to efficient healthcare. in other parts of the country, they are spending -- washington, healthcare. in other parts of the country they are spending too much. maybe you should go to your congressman and say why am i not eligible? maybe you have, but the fact is you are eligible, and if you live in a congressional district i would be down at their office and say i have no way to live because those programs are therefore people that do not have the capacity. host: laura chimes in on twitter thomas doctors hate this -- twitter, doctors hate this system, starting to the sea- four-service set up. -- fee-for-service setup. william. arkansas. caller: good morning, congressman. as an iraqi veteran, congressman, i am extremely concerned about the closing of vertical facilities for -- medical facilities for veterans. i will give you an example. in the 1990s we closed an air base in memphis, and it takes six months to get care for a veteran in memphis. it concerns me that we are continuing to close these military bases yet we are doing nothing to take care of the veterans. i would like to hear your response. guest: i said a little bit about it earlier. it is fine and good to go marching off to war. remember we were told we would be out of the rack in 6 -- out of iraqi and six months? th the people that said that, i knew were blowing smoke. the real question is the total cost of war, what happens when people come home? we have people going 3, 4, five and six rotations. we have worn out our army. it is all volunteer. we do not draft. when i went in in the vietnam era, i was drafted because everyone had a responsibility to serve in the military. i think that is a good idea, personally. i think everybody should give something back to this country. this country does tremendous things for me, and i have a personal responsibility to give back, but we do not act that way, and we treat soldiers as some kind of group that is over there and we will not worry about them and keep cutting benefits. they were promised all kinds of things when they enlisted. when they are injured or there is a long-term problem, suddenly you have to stand in this line and it takes three or four months to get in. that is not right. i think that this is the real tragedies of the wars -- what happens to the families and the men and women who serve. you have women that have been away from their kids for three or four years serving in iraq because they were in the national guard unit, they were mobilized and kept in. all kinds of things where people are suffering. it is not right. host: george in new jersey. democratic caller. caller: hi. representative, do you not think that the system of government that we have now that has been going on since rome is basically not working, has never really worked, and once you get into your seat, you can sit there forever, basically. you can lose if you do something really bad. it seems the system is working on bribery, lobbyists bribing people, and once you are in that bubble of washington you no longer are a person. you are not one of the people. you are above the people, so this system seems to be broken. with all the likes on facebook, could we if not get rid of the congressman, be in a position to vote ourselves, and have the people on the streets doing the dirty work have a say in the government. so that you guys know where we stand. to say that government needs the people to vote, it does not work anymore because we have computers to do this. eventually we will have to vote by getting into the street and reacting like egypt. host: ok, george. congressman? guest: i would agree that we have problems, but i think the form of democracy we have in the united states is one that can and has functioned through difficult times. if you look at this country, we started in 1789. women did not vote for 120 years. i mean, what kind of democracy is that? we had slavery for 75 years. we had to get rid of slavery. if you look at what has happened to gaze in this country -- gays in this country, over the last 30 or 40 years we have changed our relationship with the gay population. this society changes in response to what is going on. now, we are in a difficult time right now because we have a lot of people that suddenly think it is about me. it is not about me. it is about we. if we do not take care of one another and say everyone is on their own, it will simply fall apart as a society and become a mob scene as it was in paris. you can see what a country can become if you do not have equity. i do not want that. i want people to have a peaceful life and i think our system will work. host: sal on twitter wants to return to the so-called dock six. why are they always -- doc fix. why are they always trying to cut doctors salaries? do they cut their own? guest: we do not cut our benefits. host: for doctors. guest: when we started medicare, we said doctors can submit usual and customary fees. if i do something for you, and i send my bill to medicare, and i say $1000, and medicare pays me $800, they say then -- i say they did not pay what i was worth, so we are paying their fees, but not as much as they want. that is what they are screaming about. now, it will be a question about whether we pay for volume, do more, get more money, or do more and get better quality. we are trying to shift to quality. paying for quality. doctors will have to negotiate with us. host: before we let you go, the affordable care act, 2013, what might be one or two headlines coming out about that law? guest: it is the law of the land and it will be implemented in 2014, and the headline you will see is states gradually moving into joining it. right now only 20 states have said they will move forward with it, but you will see other states begin to say we want to control what happens to the people in our state rather than let the federal government come in. "here is what you have." host: "the wall street journal" editorial is very critical of the arizona governor saying that the laws perverse incentives and the health lobby have captured the arizona governor. guest: that is typical "wall street journal." the fact is people come into the hospital, they do not receive any payment, it becomes uncompensated care, and the doctors are saying how can you turn away money for patients that we see and we do not get paid for? it is nonsense for a government to say i will not take 100% of the money. why wouldn't you take git? i think the governor made a reasonable, smart decision. the same thing happened in ohio, john kasich, who used to be anti-government and all that stuff, he said send me the money. host: congressman mcdermott, thank you for talking to our viewers. guest: my pleasure. host: the house will gavel back in in about 10 minutes. >> coming in in 10 minutes and a gallon back out and beginning debate on the rule for the balanced budget legislation in the house at 1:00 p.m. eastern. president obama will have something to say about the budget. he will ask congress to come up with tens of billions of dollars in short-term spending cuts to put off the automatic sequester scheduled to kick in on march 1st. live coverage of the president's statement on c-span.org. there is a news conference about gun trafficking being introduced in the house. we look at the issue of gun ownership from members of congress. host: there is a headline this morning. paul singer is one of the reporters. why did you do this survey and what did you find? caller: we thought that it was worthwhile to find out if members of congress are gun owners. we thought it was a worthwhile question to ask. they will be voting on gun control policy and we wanted to ask if they were actually gun owners, more or less in the same proportion as the americanswhat happened was the proportions were almost exactly the same. 2% of household reported had guns. the distinction in congress is that it is a very regional difference. many more republicans have guns than democrats, and by and large southerners. host: what does that mean for gun policy? caller: it is hard to know. it is very, very clear that there is a correlation between gun ownership and positions that saver or are supported by the nra. national rifle association. several people that we spoke to said that what we are seeing is a kind of cultural area for guns where if you grew up in a southern community and income -- conservative community, probably in a rural area, you are very familiar with guns and are not in favor of gun control. if you grew up in a city, an urban environment with more guns and crime, you're probably less in favor of guns and more in favor of gun control. if that holds true, there is not going to be a huge majority in congress for gun-control. seems like it will be pretty split. there will be a lot of people that are gun owners. host: including democrats? caller: including democrats, although a smaller number. some of the ones who were gun owners said that boehner is in favor of gun control. we talked to a congressman from minnesota. he said he was a gun owner, but that he believed that some gun controls, particularly background checks, are important. to maintain safety of guns. there were 120 republicans that own guns, only 46 democrats told us that they own guns. 76% of congress answered our questions. host: why did people not answer your question? caller: they gave a variety of reasons. we had about 60 people total applying by saying that they -- declining by saying that would not talk about it. several said that it was safety reasons, that they did not think it was appropriate to talk about their security. several of them said that they did not want to tell burglars that they had guns, because burglars might try to come steal their guns, which was an odd answer. several told us that it was none of our business. again, our view is that as members of congress that have higher exposure than regular people. and then there were a bunch of people who did not return repeated phone calls, e-mails, requests for answers. host: what about the leadership in the house and the senate? caller: harry reid of nevada is a gun owner, democratic leader. mitch mcconnell of kentucky, as i recall. -- i believe he declined to talk with us. we did not get an answer at all from john boehner, the house speaker. nancy pelosi does not own a gun. host: what about the chairman of the house judiciary and senate judiciary committees? the legislation is going to go to them. caller: that is one of the most interesting ones. senator leahy is a gun owner, but he is also a very strong advocate for gun control. he will be one of the key points in the debate -- he will be delivering one of the key points in the debate. their committees are likely to be the first out the door with legislation. there will be interesting things coming from some unlikely he, coming from vermont, who lives in a state where gun ownership is not all that unusual. it will be interesting to see if he can thread the needle between a healthy respect for guns and a healthy concern for guns and gun safety. i think that he will be a very interesting player to watch. host: let me conclude by asking how you interpreted the president's remarks yesterday in minneapolis. fantasizing universal background checks but briefly talking about the assault rifles ban. what does that mean for passage? caller: i think it is clear that they do not have the votes for assault weapons ban. there is a lot of stuff that they can probably get done, like a background check, but i do not think that they will try to push an assault weapons ban just to lose on the issue. and they will raise it as something that they would like to do, but i do not see it passing. host: thank you for your time. guest: have a great day. host: we turn to you to get your take. they probably do not have the votes. perhaps universal background checks makes it through. the vast majority of americans support that as well. >> a bipartisan group of members is scheduled to have gun trafficking legislation on c- span3. eric cantor said to make a policy speech including immigration, at 1:00 p.m. on c- span2. the economic and budget projections for 2013 live on c- span2 at 2:00 p.m. eastern. >> she loved her time in the white house. she said it was like a beautiful dream. that gives you some idea how much she enjoyed being first lady and how she felt her husband had achieved the recognition he deserved. >> on julia grant. "first ladies," their public and private lives and their influence on the president. season one begins presidents' day at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific on c-span and c- span.org. >> the single thing that coolest it was when he left office, the budget was lower than when the cayme in. "how did you do that?" the budget was balanced because of its own parsimony. how he managed to make the budget go lower and how that helped the economy. he got the government out of the way. >> tracing the life of the 30th president of the united states on "coolidge." >> the u.s. house gaveling in momentarily. there will come in briefly for one-minute speeches. a proposal to balance the budget and we'll have that live. work is scheduled to continue through tomorrow. the senate is off today and tomorrow. you can follow the senate on c- span2 when they return. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] the speaker: the house will be in order. the prayer will be offered by our chaplain, father conroy. chaplain conroy: let us pray. loving god, you are compassionate and merciful. we give you thanks for giving us another day. during these days, when the house itself continues to organize itself for the 113th congress, we ask your blessing upon the members of this assembly. there are many issues which press upon our nation now and more lie upon the legislative horizon. poor fourth an -- power for -- pour fourth an -- for the an abundance of wisdom upon your people so that together solutions for the betterment of our nation might be forged. bless us -- bless us this day and every day. may all that is done be for your greater honor and glory, amen. the speaker: the chair has examined the journal of the last day's proceedings and announces to the house his approval thereof. pursuant to clause 1 of rule 1, the journal stands approved. the pledge of allegiance today will be led by the gentleman from vermont, mr. welch. mr. welch: i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america planl i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. -- i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the speaker: the chair will entertain up to 15 oneman minute requests. >> mr. speaker, it has been more than four years since the white house operated under a budget. it's not a coincidence that each of these four years has brought a trillion-dollar keff sit. tennesseans from frustrated over the fact that they must stick to a budget in operating their homes and businesses yet the obama administration cannot seem to do the same in running the country with our hard-earned tax dollars. mr. desjarlais: last congress house republicans passed two responsible budgets by the administration, their allies and the democrat-controlled senate twiddle their thumbs. republicans have introduced the require a plan act. this commonsense proposal, a mandate the white house produce a balanced budget within a 10-year window or submit a plan explaining in what year the budget would balance. unfortunately it seems that we have no other choice but to force this administration to finally address the debt crisis that is destroying jobs and mortgaging the future of our children and grandchildren. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from tennessee yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> unanimous consent to address the house for one minute, to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from california is recognized for one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i rise today to mark the 20th anniversary of the signing of the family and medical leave act, fmla. after years of hearing talk about family values, it took president clinton and the 103rd congress to adopt policies like fmla to actually value families. as many people know, fmla allows up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave per year due to an employee's own illness to take care of a sick family member or to be with a new child. for 20 years, this law has recognized the needs of hardworking families, particularly working women who often are trying to balance their job and their role as primary caregiver. mr. swalwell: the latest data from the department of labor demonstrate the importance of fmla. in 2011 over 14 million workers took leave under the act. and this leave is not disruptive to employers, with 40% of workers being away from the job for 10 days or fewer. i know workers around the country are grateful for the protections of fmla. now for 20 years they have felt confident they can take time off as needed without fear of losing their job to care for themselves or their family. as we debate the fiscal and budgetary issues of the day, i hope fmla serves as a remind that are we can and should be valuing families, not just in our words, but in our deeds as well. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from illinois seek recognition? >> request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from illinois is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, on december 8, 2012, got robot, f.t.c. team 037 won an award at the first tech challenge illinois state tournament. now got robot will represent illinois in the first world championships in st. louis, missouri this upcoming april. out of 2,500 participating teams around the world, got robot is one of only 128 to qualify for the world championship. mr. hultgren: at a time when we need to do everything we can, everything possible to promote science education and basic scientific research, i am so thrilled to be able to say that i've met this team, seen the robot and it's fantastic. we are so proud of these students and we wish their team the best of luck. so go, got robot. i yield back. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from illinois yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, by direction of the democratic caucus i offer a privileged resolution and ask for its immediate consideration. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the resolution. the clerk: house resolution 52, resolved that the following named members be and are hereby elected to the following standing committee of the house of representatives. one, committee on house administration, miss lofgren and mr. -- ms. lofgren and mr. vargas. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the resolution is a agreed to and the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. for what purpose does the gentleman from new york seek recognition? without objection, the gentleman from new york is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, today we will consider a house republican message bill that makes a point about spending and budget deficits. mr. higgins: the problem is all those who support this bill about spending did all the spending. two tax cuts that gave us the worst period of job growth in the past 75 years and our nation's worst recession. two wars unpaid for that took $1.2 trillion out of the american economy. a drug prescription program unpaid for, cost $1 trillion over 10 years. the big spenders who falsely claim to be concerned about the job creators are in fact the debt and deficit makers. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from alabama rise? without objection. >> mr. speaker, last week unemployment rose to 7.9% and consumer confidence in the economy fell to a 14-month low. during the last three months of 2012, the economy shrank for the first time since the depths of the great recession. all of these indicators confirm what the american people know all so well, that the economy is still suffering. ms. bonamici: and yet the president -- ms. bonamici: and yet the -- mr. bonner: and yet the president closed down his jobs council, confirming another thing that americans know all too well as well. that washington is truly disconnected from the struggles of hardworking families who pay their taxes, work hard and are struggling just to survive. now the president's calling for even more revenues to pay for $4 trillion in new debt that he has helped heap on the backs of hardworking americans during the past four years. more and more of my constituents in south alabama tell me they don't want to charge more money in their names as taxes rise and red ink pours through the streets of washington, d.c. while the house has passed responsible budgets for the last two years, it's time for the president and the democrat senate to do the same. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from virginia rise? without objection. mr. moran: the a.a. -- the aarp, the american medical association, the catholic conference, the conference of mayors, bob barker, oprah winfrey, tony bennett, the kansas city chiefs, the sara lee corporation and hundreds of other individuals and organizations all have something in common. they're all targeted on nra -- n.r.a.'s website as being -- as holding anti-gun positions. and what does the n.r.a. consider to be anti-gun? for one, they say that the listed individuals and groups are opposed to repeal of the brady act. it's not that they support expanding background checks to include all gun sales, which would seem to be reasonable, it's that they're opposed to the repeal of the current brady act, which would end all background checks. with over 30,000 americans killed every year by guns, it seems that this is the time for swift and focused action to mitigate our nation's gun violence epidemic. it's not time to be drawing up an enemy's list of those who support reasonable gun safety measures. i'd suggest to some of my colleagues on the house, with enemies like these, perhaps it's time to rethink who your friends are. thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from kansas rise? >> to address the house for one minute, revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from kansas is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, i rise today to praise the life and legacy of a personal hero of mine. adele hall was one of the kindest, warmest, friendliest people i have ever known. yesterday adele was laid to rest amongst the outpouring of family and friends who were touched and inspired by the heartwarming and graceful life that adele led. mr. yoder: called the first lady of kansas city, adele and her adoring husband, don, have been stables of the kansas city community for a generation, providing irreplaceable leadership in both business and civic affairs. her obituary states in part, adele was interested in a broad arrange of community needs with a special passion for needs of children. she was a tireless working -- she was tireless working toward those interest. as a visionary board chairman, energetic champion and catalyst for change, hardworking committee member, dedicated fundraiser or hands-on volunteer. we will forget miss adele's good deeds in our community, but most of all i will miss her smile. to adele hall, thank you for your life of inspirational leadership, you have forever found a place in our hearts. and with that, mr. speaker, i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from oregon rise? >> address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from oregon is recognized for one minute. mr. defazio: the republicans are going to bring up a bill to require the president to submit a balanced budget. it would be good if perhaps first they looked in the mirror because this comes from the same house republicans who in the last congress passed the ryan budget which got great accolades from the right. unfortunately the ryan budget, even with directed scoring, that is made up numbers, that pretend if you cut taxes you'll increase revenue, wouldn't pretend to balance the budget until 2040, and that was after it did away with medicare, student financial aid and a few other domestic programs. now, let's get real around here. 1/3 of the deficit is due to high unemployment. we need a strategy to put americans back to work. that requires investment. investment in education, investment in our roads, bridges, highways, transit systems, levees, dams, harbors across the country. that would put americans back to work. that would get this country moving again. not a bunch of fake bills about a budget that they have no intention of balancing. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from indiana seek recognition? without objection, the gentleman from indiana is recognized for one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker. the victims of the recent tragedy in newtown, connecticut, and the victims of other recent shootings deserve our solemn prayers for their loss and our deepest sympathy for their pain. as a nation we should focus our collective grief and attention on finding actual solutions to prevent such tragedies in the future, but gun bans are not the answer. history shows that gun bans only keep guns away from law-abiding citizens, not criminals. blaming a gun for violence is like blaming a pen for a misspelled word. mr. speaker, this week president obama hosted his latest in an unfortunate series of anti-gun pep rallies. mr. messer: this nation does not need more political posturing. instead we need a serious discussion about how we address mental health as a nation and we feed to take action -- need to take action to better protect our children this their schools. i stand ready to second amendment rights of our didn'ts and work with anyone who will support -- of our citizens and work with anyone who will support policies that could actually stop future violence. thank you, i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time indiana yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from vermont seek recognition? without objection, the gentleman from vermont is recognized for one minute. mr. welch: i rise to honor a person's whose time was short but contribution was great. joan passed away this past december at the age of 51. joan graduated from the university of vermont and she very quickly made a name for herself as a fierce and extremely effective advocate for the environment. in her position with the vermont public interest research group. although joan then left vermont to pursue a law degree here in washington, d.c., and later went on to a very successful career at earth justice, vermont never left joan. the values with which she pursued her passion for a clean environment, for sustainable environment were ones vermonters know well. she was relentless, she was tenacious, she was tireless and she was kind. and she was very effective. as joan's friends have noted, she would have been uncomfortable with all the tributes that have been paid to her but she'll have to give us a pass on this one because she certainly lived a life worthy of praise and honor. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentlelady from missouri seek recognition? without objection, the gentlelady from missouri is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, every day hardworking families and small business owners from the second district of missouri create budgets, set priorities and live within their means. yet president obama and the senate democrats keep writing blank checks on the backs of our children and our grandchildren. yesterday marks the fourth time in the last five years that president obama has missed his deadline to submit a budget on time to the american people. mrs. wagner: and the democrat-led senate has only exacerbated the debt crisis by not passing a budget in almost four years. this is simply unacceptable and house republicans stand prepared to address this crisis and offer a responsible budget again this year. american families deserve better than missed deadlines, more spending and more debt. they deserve answers and accountability. this week the house will vote to require the president to show a plan of exactly when and how he would balance the federal budget. the 113th congress was elected to tackle the big problems and there is no greater problem facing our nation right now than our out-of-control spending and debt. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from tennessee seek recognition? does the gentleman seek unanimous consent? without objection. mr. cohen: thank you. memphis, tennessee, has an iconic restaurant worldwide known, the rendezvous. and it's iconic because it's grot great -- got great ribs, many artifacts about the midsouth but also a great wait staff that makes everybody feel at home. one of those iconic waiters will be retiring after 45 years. jack's 78 years old and he'll retire this week. after serving millions of customers from presidents and first ladies to the rolling stones, to bill cosby. and regular people who come in and are made to feel at home when they come to the rendezvous for that world class fare. jack dyson has made me feel at home. when he retires part of the rendezvous will go with him. i thank jack for his service to his country as a korean war veteran and to the world as a server. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? without objection, the gentleman from pennsylvania is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, i rise today to recognize the outstanding efforts of an organization in my district of pennsylvania, bucks promise for youth and communities. this group is being honored tomorrow, february 7, by the community anti-drug coalitions of america which is the nation's leading substance abuse prevention organization, representing over 5,000 community anti-drug coalitions across the country. mr. fitzpatrick: the organization will be receiving the dose of prevention award, an esteemed award which acknowledges community-based organizations that have taken the initiative to raise awareness of the dangers of prescription drug abuse and over-the-counter cough medicine abuse. bucks promise for youth and communities consist of individuals who truly exemplify leadership and ingenuity them. made tremendous strides in educating my district on the dangers of medicine abuse through takeback events and town hall-style community discussions. i congratulate them and applaud their continuous efforts to bring this crucial issue to the forefront of our community. mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? . without objection. the gentleman from california is recognized for one minute. mr. costa: mr. speaker, last week -- later this week the united states senate will pick up where congress left off in passing the violence against women's act. as a co-chair of the victims rights caucus, every day victims' advocates do the hard work of making sure their voices are heard for the assistance of the programs authorized under the violence against women's act. last year alone, a center in fresno which i have worked with over the years, provided emergency housing for over 1,100 women and children in their time of need. we have learned a lot from victims' rights advocates and law enforcement since the law was enacted in 1994. it's time we use those lessons to put the safety of all crime victims first and stop playing politics. now the house must follow the senate's lead by quickly adopting this measure to show that protecting victims is a top priority of this congress. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentlelady from california seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the gentlelady is recognized for one minute. mrs. capps: mr. speaker, i rise to commemorate the anniversary of the family and medical leave act. a critical law that has helped americans balance the demands of work and family for 20 years. over these last few decades, fmla has helped to foster strong family relationships, ensuring parents could take time with a new child, allowing workers to care for older family members, and permitting military families the time to prepare for new deployment. for these we are all grateful. but we must remember that fmla is only the first step to helping our working families. too many are still without fmla's protections, and millions who are eligible can't afford to take on paid leave. as we reflect on 20 years of great success, let's recommit to improving this program, going forward to help keep all americans strong. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from new york seek recognition? without objection, the gentlelady from new york is recognized for one minute. ms. clarke: mr. speaker, monday, november 26, 2012, a great day for the residents of my town. new york city went 24 hours without a single person being ininjured or -- injured or killed by gun violence. that day the section of brooklyn within my district which witnessed more shooting victims last year than any other part of the city felt a most needed reprieve from the violence it experiences on a daily basis. mr. speaker, women and children are gunned down every day in urban communities across the country by illegal handgun violence. in fact, on average more than 100,000 people in the united states are shot and killed with the gun annually. this is endemic in communities of color where the legal handgun violence has become a very serious public health issue. these numbers are unacceptable, especially in a state and city with some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. last week, gun violence is not an inevitable problem, yet it continues to plague our community. we owe it to the people we represent and to future generations to act with urgency and conviction to put an end to the senseless pattern of gun violence. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentlelady from california seek recognition? without objection, the gentlelady from california is recognized for one minute. ms. hahn: thank you, mr. speaker. i stand with my colleagues today in congress, the american people, and our president to say that now is the time to end the senseless gun violence that has plagued our neighborhoods from the streets of compton and chicago to the schools and movie theaters in newtown and aurora. now is the time to pass legislation that is necessary to protect our children and our families from these repeated patterns of senseless gun violence. our children should not have to live in fear while learning their a, b, c's or college algebra or innocently waiting at a bus stop after school or seeing a move vee. i believe america is ready to take commonsense steps to keep our families and communities safe. today i call upon my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to move quickly and support president obama's comprehensive gun violence protection plan -- prevention plan that calls for universal background checks and a ban on those military-style assault weapons and high capacity magazines that have no place in our neighborhoods. we must continue to take concrete steps towards keeping americans safe. the time is now. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? without objection, the gentleman from texas is recognized for one minute. >> thank you, mr. speaker. there are many details yet to define as we bring our laws in line with our values in the coming debate over immigration reform. but i caution my colleagues against using additional enforcement and security measures as a condition and pretext to delay much needed reform. while we should always seek to improve the security of this country in ways consistent with our constitution, i remind my colleagues of our efforts and costs born by border communities as we work to secure the border in the years since 9/11. after we have spent billions onboarder walls, seen record high deportations, and record low immigrant apprehensions, endured endless lines at ports of entry that threaten to support our economy and way of life, it is time to focus on immigration reform and secure legal flee of people and trade. mr. o'rourke: the people of el paso, texas, ranked one of the safest in the united states, tell you this pass comprehensive immigration reform and you will have true border security. i yield back the remainder of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? without objection, the gentleman from california is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, i rise today to caution again about the dangers of sequestration. in a few short weeks automatic across-the-board spending cuts will take place. mr. bera: if allows -- allowed, they can forestall our economic recovery. not only will they triple economic programs, but across-the-board cuts on top of already reductions will impact the department of defense. yes, we need to make strategic budget reductions, eliminate overdue ineffective programs that -- and begin to bring our budget under control. but we need to do this in a responsible way. an automatic sequestration cuts are irresponsible. in my community, we will feel an immediate impact. if sequestration hits, programs that are essential to keeping our communities safe and security would face an automatic 8.2% cut. the cops program in sacramento would lose over $1.5 million in funding which would hurt local law enforcement and impact our community's safety. yes, we need to get our budget under control. we need to reduce our deficit and begin paying down our debt. but irresponsible across-the-board sequestration cuts are not the way to do it. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from michigan seek recognition? without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, america's manufacturing sector has played an invaluable role over the last century in propelling our economy and creating a strong and vibrant middle class. manufacturing continues to be a bright spot in our economic recovery. since 2010, the u.s. has added over a half a million manufacturing jobs. mr. kildee: that's progress. but in a time where millions of americans continue to struggle, we can and must do more. congress should be working every day to rebuild our economy and create good-paying jobs right here in america not overseas. that's why i support the make it in america agenda, which will strengthen manufacturing and rebuild our infrastructure. it will also maintain our nation's leadership in innovation and educate a 21st century work force. the make it in america agenda is a real jobs plan for this country. democrats stand ready to act. mr. speaker, my constituents and all americans cannot wait any longer. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the chair lays before the house a communication. the clerk: the honorable the speaker, house of representatives. sir, pursuant to the permission granted in clause 2-h of rule 2 of the rules of the u.s. house of representatives, the clerk received the following message from the secretary of the senate on february 5, 2013, at 10:58 a.m. that the senate passed senate 227. appointments, commission on long-term care. with best wishes i am, signed sincerely, karen l. haas. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess until approximately 1:00 p.m >> we want to welcome back to our table scott garrett, republican of new jersey. serves on the budget committee as well as the financial services committee. let me begin with you, congressman, where i began with or previous guest here. this is the national journal daily from yesterday. for weeks momentum has been steadily growing in congress to allow the $85 billion in cuts slated to go into effect march 1. democrats are demanding revenue raisers to avoid it and republicans hellbent on not giving ground again on the heals of the new year's fiscal cliff deal are insist ising on entitlement reform. is this accurate reporting? will the $85 billion in automatic cuts go through on march 1? guest: it certain seems as though we are going in that direction. republicans have taken the position that the obama administration has gotten the tax increases that we want. we went through that battle. taxes have gone up. people in my district already called me and said why are my taxes going on? i thought there was a big deal out there. tax vs. gone up on the american economy, american families. we have gotten the revenue rates and tax increases up. now americans are asking congress to do the rest of the project, which is to deal with the spending side of the equation. none of us really want the across-the-board-type cuts that you would get with equestionser because we really would like congress to get in and do its job and try the specific areas that need to be cut and allow other areas that don't need to be cut to remain in place. that's a two-way street. you have two sides to the table have to get in that negotiation. and the white house has never sat down on the other side of the table to engage in it. host: if the sequestration goes through, $85 billion across-the-board, what does that mean for the economy? >> what it means is that we are implementing what was agreed to in a bipartisan agreement in the past cycle. all the parties sat down and said how can we work this through? what is amount of money we need to actually be spending here in washington? and republicans and democrats probably started at different points, right? but they came to an agreement that we need to begin cutting spending. to the tune of around $1.2 trillion. over 10 years of time. and you have the number of what that would mean in one year. basically it would simply be implementing a bipartisan agreement. host: what's the likelihood that this happens? it sounds like -- guest: numbers on it? 73-26? 27. who knows. it's sort of leaning in that direction and has been leaning in that direction for a long time. i guess you could say actually been leaning in that direction ever since the budget control act went into effect because the white house has yet to engage. what needs to be done is entitlement reform. that is what the american public has been asking for, from both sides of the aisle, that's what congress has been asking for from the republican side of the aisle. and that is something that the president has said he wants to do, but he never gives us anything in writing. it was the term before last when the c.b.o., congressional budget office, we cannot score a speech. and they are referring to the fact the president goes out, goes before the american public and says this is what he wants to do and gives a speech on these things. never puts it in writing his special legislation as to where he would come down on entitlement reform. we need that actual piece of legislation from him. we need to actually a written proposal from him so we can engage in the negotiations. host: republicans don't even come to the table until you see something like that? guest: no. we are at the table. republicans have already put out proposals. republicans have already made suggestions as far as entitlement reform. we are here with a proposal. republicans have passed that through the house. we are waiting for the other side. as the saying goes we are not going to negotiate with our sefments we do seriously and fervently want to negotiate with the president on this so the economy can move forward. what it means to the economy f. we can do this, it means more jobs are created. it means people will have jobs. higher paychecks. more prosperity in the contry. all these good things can happen if the white house would just for once begin to engage in this process. host: the congressional budget office today, this afternoon, c.b.o. gives out their 2013 economic outlook. what do you suspect they say about the sequester and what things will look like? how do you think that impacts negotiations? guest: probably helps it because i have been on the budget committee for 10 years now, longest serving member of the budget committee, and year in, year out, what happens? we have experts come in, including from the c.b.o., experts from both the left and right, from groups from various walks of life, democrat and republican organizations come before the committee, brookings institute, cato-type organizations, and they all say the same thing. this report you refer to will say the same thing as well. if we don't do something with regard to entitlements and trying to reform it, to make sure that seniors who are receiving benefits today will be able to receive it tomorrow and next week and for the rest of their lives, and people who are about to go into the entitlement program such as medicare able to receive it next week when they turn 65 and for the rest of their lives, if we don't do something today, not as harry reid said a couple years ago when he said there is a problem with entitlement reform. we can wait 20 years for that problem to hit. that problem hits today. that is what the report will say from c.b.o. that we have to address this issue today, now, immediately, and both sides have to come to the table. we are at the table. we are waiting for the white house to get there. host: we'll be covering that announcement today by the c.b.o. on c-span 28 -- c-span2, there it is on your screen. let me ask you about the house. the "washington times" this morning reporting president obama missed a deadline for the fourth time on the budget. the house is going forward this week with the plan act. can you explain what it is? do you have enough votes to pass it? guest: all that simply says is look the house of representatives has done its job. we have done our job year in, year out. we have actually passed a budget and of course we did a bill a week or so now that says if the senate doesn't pass a bill they don't get paid. that's pressure on the senate. lo and behold i bet you anything that the senate will now pass the budget now that they see their paychecks on the line. now we are doing-we can't stop the president from being paid, but we are passing a bill that says he should present a budget and he should present a budget that actually balances and should balance in a reasonable period of time. how about 10 years? c.b.o. and the budget committee, i guess it was last term, i was on the budget committee, and the director of o.m.b., office of management and budget, comes into our committee and he's there to present the president's proposal at that time and i asked him one very simple question. i said, can you tell me when does the president's proposal balance? when does it come into balance? income equal revenue expenditures? one year? five years? 10 years? he could not answer the question. at the end of the day the president has never given us a proposal, the president has never given us a budget that actually balances. not in our lifetime. but ever. it never balances. to answer your question what we are saying is, mr. president, give us a budget that balances within a reasonable period of time. host: and it passes? guest: it probably does. host: eric cantor, the number two in the house, will be giving a speech today as well, we are covering it. political called it 4.0. we are covering it here on c-span2, 1:00 p.m. eastern. but the point is did he -- he's going to be talking about -- he said this morning to one of the morning programs, we need to tell the american people what we are about. what we are going to do. has he talked to the rank and file about this speech? previous view it for us, if you could. guest: he hasn't got into the details but i can surmise what it will be without -- in essence. so republicans, myself included, are pretty good on going to the floor and giving speeches around the country and getting into, as i put it, into the weeds. what you do on this program here, getting into the nitty-gritty and particular of the numbers and what have you. that's all well and good. especially for a program like this and especially for the viewers who watch this program. but there's a lot of other people out there who don't get into the weeds. we are really good about talking about the features of the program. you are really good in asking questions about them. what republicans may not be as good about is talking about the benefits. one of your questions actually, your second or third question did go to this point, what does this mean to the economy? that sort of gets into that point. republicans have to do a better job not talking about the numbers and what have you, but what are the benefits of our program? what are the benefits if we actually do entitlement reform? what are the benefits if we come up with a proposal on an alternative to see questionser -- sequester? what are the benefits of some of the other proposals on energy. just saw the news here how energy prices are going through the roof again and people are paying more at the gas pump. what are the benefits of some of the discussion we do on energy production to you and i, once we get off this show, and actually have to buy gas down the street? that's ridiculous here in washington. we have to do a better job. i think that's what eric is going to try to broaden the discussion on. host: phone calls here. john in texas, republican. welcome to the conversation, john. caller: good morning, congressman. it's real simple, medicaid, we are spending over $400 billion a year on that program alone. now, the government has said they want to keep government out of the bedroom. ok. i'm not talking about nursing home people. but all the others having one, two, three, four, five children and we are picking up the costs for all of that. that is one area we can tackle because i look at it this way. my mother's 85 years old. she paid a $100 deductible out of her social security check for medicare. why can't we force people on medicaid to pay a premium? if they can't afford it they shouldn't be in the bedroom then? and cut food stamps and the child tax credits. there's a good start right there. thank you. guest: there's a number of good ideas to discuss around the table and what have you. the one on top, the discussion on medicaid. here's part of the entitlement network we have created over the decades in this country. one that has, as with many programs in washington, started with all the best of intentions and as this caller has said, ballooned out of control. so what can you do about it? the republicans have proposals on this. the caller is suggesting one way to more than tweak it, but another way, i think john will agree with this, is throw it back to the states. and allow them even more flexibility than what john is talking about as to how to control, manipulate, change, and make it so that those people who need the services are going to get it, and those people should not be getting it are not. and that where the subsidies should come to. but allow the states, the incubators of experimental -- experimentation on these things to do their thing and he develop it so it's customized to their states. whatever his state is from, he could probably listen to john and probably do it over here and live without those means. new jersey would probably dole it a slightly different way. i think john's on to something, i think you want to go one step further. host: grace on twitter, isn't the president's job -- it is not the president's job to do the house's work. the house is responsible for passing a budget and not one that adds $6 trillion. guest: right. ok. so exactly, so the president has basically has added about $6.8 trillion to the national debt, the first 200 years of this country we were around $10 trillion to debt and this administration comes in and adds $6 trillion almost to it. the house is responsible for spending bills. the twitter person is correct. the constitution says, i see you have some here, that spending bills originate where? in the house of representatives. but the president is certainly supposed to engage in the discussions on expenditure sides of the equation and also on the revenue side is and he has engaged. we have done our job. we have passed budgets, the house of representatives has passed budgets. we also go over to the senate. they then respond to it. the senate has not passed a budget in over four years now. host: holly next. california. democrat caller. caller: hallelujah. i'm a baby boomer and i had a question. i remember president reagan i pay double on social security taxes to ensure there would be no problem, and i hear a lot of people saying there actually is not a problem. it's capped out at a certain amount. it could be fixed. i think the real problem instead of so-called entitlements that actually we pay for is the republicans are ruled by corporations that writes laws, pass it on to the republicans, and they put it through. we saw this on bill moyer's show and it was proven that they write the bills that get there. i see the republicans are representing corporations. the next point is the election, the last one, they showed another corrupt voting machine that vote to rommi instead of president obama. why is this allowed? why the republicans in charge of these voting machines? that's why they get into these positions of influence. host: a couple issues there. guest: run them down as quick as i can in reverse orders. republicans in charge of the voting machines? i guess they didn't do a very good job in the last presidential election because romney didn't win. i can't go into more detail than that. there was accusations bothways on that. republicans control. democrats control. the democrats won. as far as republicans on the side of big business, that's one of those myths that are out there that just continue to be a expressed by callers such as this one. if you look what happened over the last four years, the administration, a lot of people say, has been on the side of wall street and the big banks and companies. she's from california. that's where solyndra was from. that's where bailing out companies like that. her tax dollars went to bail out a company that all the outside experts and part of the people in the administration said they should not be bailed out with her tax dollars. unfortunately somebody must have had a good connection there with the white house in order to get her tax dollars to go and bail out a company that eventually went out of business. as far as her first point as far as where we should be trying to make a cut back. cutbacks come from the other areas of the ledger sheet as opposed to where she said from the entitlements which, as she put it, the entitlements were paid for by her. again, unfortunately, somewhat of a myth. part of the entitlements were paid for by her but not all of the entitlements. so for example when president george w. bush enacted part d of medicare, bush was a republican, i opposed republican president, seniors got a new benefit, that was prescription drug care. the day that they got that new benefit, they didn't pay for that benefit at all. so if you were 70 years old and all of a sudden started getting part d coverage you didn't pay for that. who paid for that? your children and grandchildren will be paying for that in the future. so part of your benefits have been paid for over the years you worked. but part of it also comes out of general revenue as well, which means the rest of the country pays for it or your kids or grandkids. host: your response to congressman mcdermott and greg here on twitter who says we are not doing entitlement reform, see the 2012 election. similar comments made by the congressman from washington state as well. that president obama won. and entitlement reform not going to happen. guest: if that's the position, it goes back going to the features and benefits, let's get to the gen fits. if you don't do entitlement reform, these programs are not sustainable. they will not be able to continue to exist as we know them today. those people who write in or tweet in and say that's not going to do it, you should go back to this caller and to their moms and dads and their grandparents who are currently on the programs, and receiving benefits, they will not be able to continue to be able to receive benefits indefinitely because those programs will go and run out of money. that's not me saying that. that's the experts who run these programs. that's the experts who come before the budget committee. as i said before from both perspectives, left and right, they all say we are on an unsustainable course. put it in sperspesketive -- perspective, if you take all the revenue we should take in in income taxes and, there's only enough money to pay for the entitlements, including like social security and some of the defense and interest on the debt. everything else in washington will not be funded by -- there's no money for. we are on an unsustainable course. we have to have some entitlement reform. but reform from entitlements so that parents, your senior citizens, will be able to continue to receive the benefits as they currently receive them. host: congressman mcdermott also said, raises eligibility age from 65 to 67 is a backdoor way of just trying to get people off of medicare. guest: so it's good that i'm here because as paul harvey used to say, now you can hear the rest of the story. he was on i was listening to him. talking about the history of these programs. anyone -- i know he knows it too,, anyone who knows the history of the program knows that when medicare was set up, 70-some odd years ago, the life expectancy which he addressed was not what it is right now. and the vast majority of people would never have ever received any benefits basically from their medicare plan. they would have paid into it over the years and when they would die before they received their money back out of the program. but life expectancy, fortunately, he raised this issue, too, extended by about 10 years. therefore it means people are living longer and receiving far more benefits than when the program was created. so now we have to be a -- address that in a good way. people are living longer, healthier lives. my mom is -- will be 91 come this june. so people are living longer. she's independent. that's great. but we got to make sure that there's a program that will be in place for the rest of her life as well. host: christian, new jersey, republican caller. caller: good morning to you both. i thank you for this program and c-span and for representative garrett for taking a little bit of the hot seat here. i wanted to bring it back to new jersey. it's come to my attention and i brought it to many people's attention, including governor christi, all my representatives, that the new jersey transit buses, half the fleet something leased to privately run companies for $1 a per bus. they get to pay, supposedly, with the wage, fair wage thing, the unions, they manipulate that number and they come out and pay their driver the amount. they don't give him any of the benefits. guest: they don't get the same benefits as if they were working on one of the other buses. caller: new jersey transit itself. if you were working for a private carrier leezing our buses we pay for $1 a year. they get half the fleet. they split the half of fleet with three or four families, i don't know if they all end in vowels, but most do, my point is, they come up the head of new jersey transit board came back with me, we get money for -- these things are cash cows, they use these buses for anything from the new york marathon to the p javits certainty convention. they are making thousands and hundreds of thousands and owners of these companies are basically -- they getting buses. what is the point of this? get through the charade we are getting money back and this and that. this is corruption. can you do anything about it? i'll bring it to the people's attention because i have tried through every means possible. the governor i don't know about this. host: leave it there. have the congressman respond. guest: i'll have somebody on my staff on transportation staff take a look at this. to the caller's point, i know this, i knew the one aspect of what the caller is is saying we have this, new jersey has a lease arrangement with private companies to do this. my understanding, i'll get to it more now to check it out, was because some of this business is just not a profitable business to run. that's why states have public transportation authorities. that's why towns and cities and counties and states run transit buses because it's just not a money making venture and oftentimes a losing venture and that's why the state pours money into new jersey transit. they are make monkey, you wouldn't need new jersey transit. everybody would be running it. that being the case what, do you do while you have new jersey transit over here and you need services, you are going to give -- make an arrangement with people who want to be in the business but they know they wouldn't make money if they had to buy all the buses themselves. he calls it a sweetheart deal, another term in washington speak would be subsidy, right. a subsidy would be in the business. and subsidy is effective we give you the bus, you pay us a buck, and you run the program. we'll take a look and see if it's not -- i guess what the caller is is basically saying it's not being done fairly. it's going out to sweetheart deals to three or four places. i doubt that governor christie will allow that but let's look at it. host: oklahoma city, democratic caller, receive. caller: good morning. it just seems to me, i'm kind -- i'm a democrat but tend to stay indmeant with things -- independent with things, it seems like the republicans, may not be true, but it always has the appearance you guys want to push the pain of whatever change happens on a broader section and towards the bottom. to that i just had a couple of questions for you. what's your stand on competitive bidding for the part d medicare? right now there is no bidding for the drugs. they don't get the same pricing the v.a. does. seems like the republicans are against that. i would like you to answer that. also, what about the simple fix for social security of raising the cap, even if it's just to say $200,000, right? i'm sure your mom didn't lay bricks for laving, so raising the medicare age to 67 for someone who laid bricks their whole life may not be great. host: congressman? guest: let's take them back in invert ised order. the caller is correct, my mom did not lay bricks for a living. she had a whole bunch of other jobs. i talked to my mom as to the things she did from the time she was a young girl working in new york city for the telephone company, operator, when they had those things, to working as a dental assistant in later years. you're right. on that point the idea i guess the point is when you talk about raising the age, can you do it, does it matter what sort of career, what sort of life you have? that's an interesting discussion to have. so maybe you could have one where you have various ages based upon other factors. it gets more complicated you could say i laid bricks 30 years ago but now for the last 20 years i have been sitting behind a desk running a tv program here or something like that. you are ok now. it gets complicated to try to figure out how to do that, but all that should be on the table. to your earlier point, our discussion can we raise the age of social security to make it sustainable? that's a great question. raising the cap quefment the part d question -- question. the part d question, i was opposed to part d and adding a brand new entitlement that was not paid for. so i posed the white house, i opposed president bush, the republican party. and i did not support it in any way, shape, or form because i thought it was not going to be something that was paid for. as far as the negotiation aspect of it, once you had the federal government involved in something like that on this level, it's really not a level playing field to say we are going to have the negotiations on it, because this encompasses so much of the industry. talked to the pharmaceutical industry and you find out the percentage of their drug manufacturing goes to the senior population. it's phenomenal compared to the other example, veterans or you and i who don't fit either one of those categories. it would be an unfair advantage that the government says we are going to pay over here but actually not negotiate but actually dictate the price. once you start particular tathe the price, you effectively are going down the road of wage price controls and that thing. i think there are ways you can get to the benefits and making sure that this caller and other callers can have affordable prescription drug care other than what the call certificate is suggesting. host: weighing in on this discussion about raising the eligibility wage for medicare. even if we are living longer, we work the same amount of time and contribute even more. why should we retire later? chris, pine hill -- we talked to chris. to jack win -- jaclyn in arizona. republican caller. hi. caller: good morning. my question is i'm a superintendent of an indian school on a reservation and our school is heavily dependent on impact aid. as many indians go on reservations we are one of only two federal school systems in america, department of defense and department of interior. i'm very concerned about sequestration and these devastating impacts it's going to have on the indian children, and reservations already underfunded sorely against all other public schools in america. and because we are totally dependent on congress. and i'm just worried about the -- it's going to be devastating to not only my school but other indian schools that depend so much on impact aid. cannot dough tailt -- donate -- i know you can't say much but i am concerned about impact aid. guest: here's a caller that i know about impact aid. not from where the caller's coming from, any reservations, but ideal with it in new jersey there is impact aid just means when you have land in her case where it's federal land and you can't tax it, the area needs to have some sort of subsidies been impacted by the actions of the federal government. so how does the federal government compensate for that? we do it through impact aid. you have it in other places as well. if you have a military base or some other federal institution in your district. you stat can't tax that for property tax and that sort of thing. so it has an impact upon the area, right. so how is the federal government since it's impacting the area going to compensate? she gets compensation through impact aid for the kids in the school, other areas for other services. it goes to an earlier point. sequester is not the best way in order to -- for us to do what we need to do, which is to live within our means. live with a budget that essentially gets balanced. make sure that revenues equal expenditures sometime over time. it's not the best way. and really we don't want to go there. republicans don't want to do it and the democrats don't want to do it. we would much prefer to be able to come up with targeted cuts in some of the callers have suggested some areas where we could target. we would much, much, much prefer be able to say this is where we should cut and this area we should not cut. and we are eager, more than eager to have the administration lay out some of their proposals so we can reach some sort of agreement. we are waiting for theirs. host: key legislative deadlines ahead. march 27, expiration of government funding, possible government shutdown. think that will happen? guest: you want me to put numbers on these things. the first battle is sequester, and if -- that comes up pretty quickly. the end of this month. three weeks, right? so if that goes into effect, then the next question is, do we just basically keep us at that number? basically the 974 number? at that point in time we would basically we would have the opportunity to address the last caller's question again and say
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>> there is no question that president obama has overhyped what is going to happen as a result of the sequestration. just the other day he warned how employees at capitol building will see cuts in the pay and the guy that manages the employees immediately put out a press release saying that is not true. there will be no cuts to the pay and no firings in the capitol building. i think the poll shows one of the reasons why i oppose the sequestration. i think it demonstrates that americans think something is being done with this one trillion in cuts over ten years. when in reality, this almost does nothing to affect our long term budget situation. it barely touches medicare. i am afraid that congress will act and the american public will believe because it went too effect we have fixed a budget problem. >> gregg: the amount here is really deminimus. they are 2.4% reduction in spending growth. even after $85 billion is carved out the government is still spending $15 billion more than last year. surely that is manageable especially given the plethora of stories that have emerged of the government waste. >> there is no question that government spending should be cut. i'm personally worried about the cuts of the defense department because they have seen steep cuts with the budgeted control act of 2011. again, the point is they are so small the cuts over the long term to the general budget. it doesn't touch which is the greatest driver of growth to any great extent which is medicare. that is because the american people aren't demanding it. >> the president spent the first four years avoiding any attack on entitlement spending which is out of control and medicare is going to broke and social security in just 20 years. talking about waste, i went to and invite viewers to go to the website of tom coburn. he has the waste book. here is what hard earned taxpayer money is being squandered on. we are funding robotic squirrels water melon queen tours. climate change musicals. pet shampoo products. this is my favorite, $350,000 on how golfers improve when there is a large golf hole. he found a loan $20 billion in total waste. i bet it's ten times that amount. i didn't mention the mars menu, we spend a million dollars every year. coming up with menu on mars if we ever get there. it's so easy to absorb these $85 billion in cuts and still have money left over from last year's budget. >> here is my concern concern. there is no question what you just showed, terrible government waste, but i'm afraid it focuses on the attention on these small programs, small number of programs relative to the major picture. i think the g.o.p. needs to win the argument first before we get what we actually need is entitlement reform. for instance, there was a kaiser family poll in january. while the american people said yes, we need to cut the budge. majority said we didn't need to cut social security and medicare. they opposed by majority increasing age of medicare from 65 to 67. >> gregg: but we don't arrive at truth and those people may well be wrong because they have absorbed so much fear over the years, of granny going over the cliff because you are trying to reform entitlements that won't take place for years, it's an exaggeration to be sure, isn't it? >> i think no question it's an exaggeration. all i'm saying margaret thatcher before you can win the vote you have to win the debate. g.o.p., although they tried and achieved some successes because the gaps have narrowed, they need to win the debate before we can actually have serious reform that is going to affect us. >> gregg: the pentagon, especially panetta, former secretary, claims that the mandatory defense cuts are going to jeopardize national security, but, you probable saw this. senator john cornyn decided to study it. he says it's utter nonsense because according to his numbers the pentagon budget will actually see an increase in spending even after the cuts. so what do you say to that? >> the increase might be true but the percentage of our g.d.p. this sequestration will put the defense budget on track to be the lowest percentage spent in comparison to the g.d.p. in the post world war ii era times what it was in 2000. >> gregg: 900 for toilet seats and 400 screw drivers. >> i think waste and efficiency and the word cut but we are nation at war and if they want to cut the defense that is a fair debate. but you have to have a debate what we need to cut back because of a roll in the world. >> gregg: okay. good to see you. >> heather: you know what you left out of that report, the wasteful spending? the lessons in democracy we can learn from fish. >> gregg: that is fish thing. >> heather: i found that very unnecessary. everyone should take a look at that website. fox news is taking time to look at the in-depth look. john roberts will host a special fox news report and showdown on debt row. here is a preview. >> republican congressman david swicker is telling his constituents says he will go firm. >> there be five days to solve this or go over whatever fiscal cliff. how do you see it under folding? >> firstn the question is things solvent because if we can't do this tiny marginal reduction in spending by ultimately isn't even a reduction in spending it's the growth of spending. god forbid our future. >> heather: it's part of a three-hour special starting with an exclusive interview on fox news sunday with former presidential candidate mitt romney followed by special edition of the fox report with harris faulkner. that is 6:00 p.m. eastern only on the fox news channel. secretary of state john kerry meantime, is in egypt today. the latest stop on his first overseas trip as a member of president obama's cabinet meeting with business and opposition leaders and high members of the egyptian government. he is urging all sides to reach on a compromise to end the current political and economic crisis. chief washington correspondent james rosen joins us from skype. what is the secretary expected to tell egyptian president morsi when they meet tomorrow? >> aides say the secretary is going to make it plain to the egyptian president in a way that isn't patronizing that he needs to take steps immediately to get his economy under control. egypt is in line to receive $4.8 billion from imf but they won't get it unless they take unpopular steps here in egypt. they want us to reduce energy subsidies and increase tax revenues. also he is going to talk to morsi about increasing his political out reach to the opposition. secretary kerry met -- due to some of the unrest we've had here and suggestion that secretary kerry has been favoring the muslim brotherhood faction. >> heather: technology is fascinating. we were trying to reach him with skype and then we tried to switch over to phone but we lost him. once again, his first trip over two to the region. new secretary of state john kerry will talk more about it later in the hour. >> gregg: i wanted to tell you about the fierce new fighting in war-torn syria. rebels and syrian troops clashing in a damascus. troops loyal to assad say they have recaptured certain areas and there is a battle for the capital itself. they say so far conflict has claimed close to 70,000 lives. on the heels of all that bloodshed, a new controversy over the obama administration over the decision to provide aid to the rebels. that could harm american interests in the middle east. coner powell has more on that. >> reporter: iranian and syrian officials lashed out at the united states accusing the obama administration for supporting the rebels. they said the move will only prolong the fighting which has already killed some 70,000 people. they claim the aid will punish the syrian people by encouraging the opposition fighting. they said thursday would have provided additional non-lethal aid to syrian rebels. assistance will include medical supplies, food and some $60 million for basic services like education and governance. they want military support which the obama administration has refused to provide. syrian will fall into the hands of radical groups. there are reports of heavy fighting near the capital of damascus including heavy shelling including some neighborhoods in that area. we are hearing that pro assad forces are claiming they have retaken a couple of military airports in the area. we have seen a lot of back and forth fighting in recent months and it looks like it's continuing, gregg. >> gregg: coner, thanks very much. >> heather: still to come, desperate search for a man who was swallowed alive after this -- a massive sinkhole opens up while he was in had his bedroom. new information from the scene. >> gregg: world searches on for the next pope after historic retirement that we haven't seen in 600 years. who might be the next pontiff. >> heather: and elite university is giving away some homes for free, but it does come with a catch. molly has a preview. >> reporter: they say you can't take it with you, in this case you can and you have to. i'll have more on that from princeton university coming up. the boys used double miles from their capital one venture card to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? 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>> the bedroom floor just collapsed and my brother-in-law is in there underneath the house. >> gregg: engineers say they may need to demolish the entire house. several homes evacuated out of fear that the surrounding area is also unstable. >> heather: very scary. princeton university is staging a unique giveaway for a new development project. the ivy league school is giving away seven victorian homes for free with charming features like exterior scroll molding and quite the deal, right? but it does come with a catch. molly is live from princeton, new jersey. what is the catch? >> reporter: of course, there is a catch. princeton does not deliver. if you want one of these houses, you have to stop by and literally and take it off campus. they want to put a train station here, a new facility for their art department and to do that they need to get the seven houses off their property. you are welcome to come by and pick one up. old homes, most hundred years old and not in the best condition. some of them have been gutted inside. you can see a lot of installation peeking out here and there. in some cases they are dilapidated sort of structure. others think they could be removed and we talked with one resident that his own home was moved to princeton over a hundred years ago and it's completely feasible. >> the historical society did a display of all the houses that have been moved. there are dozens and dozens, it can be done. it's a question of cost. >> reporter: and the cost would, of course, differ depending on which way you move them but certainly in the tens of thousands of dollars. we had a chance to talk to a builder that specializes in moving homes, he said difficult and not impossible but a benefit to the entire community. take a listen. >> it also helps the university save a lot of money as far as demolition costs. if someone is willing to take the homes, its benefit for everybody. >> reporter: possibly savings for princeton university. possibly an opportunity for someone who wants to take on that type of challenge. another catch, there has to be a time crunch. you have to get it done by april 30th, if not done by then, university will clear the street here to move their project forward. >> heather: not a whole lot of time to work there. thank you, molly. >> gregg: you know it's been an historic week for catholics all over the globe. now pope benedict settling into new retirement. what can we expect in the days and weeks ahead. >> heather: was it suicide or murder. new questions about a mysterious death of an american working in singapore and his mother is now calling for an investigation. >> as the weeks went on he got increasingly more agitated and distressed and would say thing to me, mom i'm afraid i will never see you again. dad, i'd put that down. ah. 4g, huh? 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>> that is correct. he knew all the key players and he would be able to identify the company and also identify who his contacts were. >> and the company denying any involvement in this. todd also told the family he had been instructed by his singapore employers to develop sophisticated high powered semiconductors to disrupt systems that china could use against the united states. the family says there needs to be an congressional investigation because it's a national security issue now. they have called on a senator who told the fox news that they have taken up his death with top officials here. the ping poor authorities have yet to conclude their investigation. back to you. >> gregg: live in los angeles, dominic, thanks very much. >> heather: it has been a historic week for america's catholic faithful who join their counterparts all around the world. actual amazement at benedict's retirement. what is going on as cardinals prepare to elect his successor. steven weiss is fellow at epic policy center. thank you for joining us. pope benedict xvi, first pope to resign in six centuries, nond the first, i discovered 11 others had resigned. he served less than eight years. what legacy will he leave behind >> first part will be the resignation, it hasn't happened in centuries. there have been popes that have resigned before but in a way this really is unprecedented. most of the resignations in the past have been under dubious circumstances or to resolve certain political issues in the church. this is the first time of his own free will saying i'm done and somebody needs to take my place. part of the legacy will be that. it's been 600 years since the last pope resigned. i wouldn't shock if we will see this in the next hundred years. pope benedict will be 86 soon and that would have been the oldest pinpoint. people live longer these days including popes. the precedence of a resignation may be part of his legacy. the other part will be the way that he diagnosed some of the spiritual and cultural malaise of the west. we in the west have a strange relationship with religion, we are spiritual but none of us like organized religion. we have a strange relationship with the truth, too, your truth and my truth, but we don't like to suggest that my truth has anything to do with your truth. we keep to ourselves and be tolerant of one another. in a world where that could cause problems because if there is no connection between your truth and my truth, there is no common ground we can come together. i think pope benedict will be remembered for proposing a way of addressing the realities of human life that allow forces the recognition of truth that we can agree upon. that can build the basis for how we shape our lives together. >> heather: speaking of moving forward, what is the most important characteristic needed in the next pope. will they look at age as a factor? >> reporter: there will be a lot of factors that are considered by the cardinals. most important thing is that the pope is first and foremost a witness, he is an apostle, an heir to st. peter. his job is to christian witness in the world and to bring the message of jesus christ to the world. that the first and most important path to the papacy. there are issues and historical context to make it more difficult. one of the issues the church is facing now is an issue of governance itself. we have all kind of scandals and leaks that make people scratch their heads of who is in charge of what is going on. the neck pope will likely be a man that is sooner by fellow cardinals as someone that can governor govern as mission and brings good news to the people of the world as a christian witness, so that work is assisted rather than impeded by the roman catholic church. >> heather: in 30 seconds are left sshlgs there a front-runner, who do you think the next pope will be? >> no. that is one of the most remarkable things about the con klaifd. there are certain names that get kicked around. the fact that lot of cardinals don't even know each other that well. only one in five have only been a cardinal for a year. half the ones have never done this before. there will be a lot of time getting to know each other and better idea who their colleagues are and who they are choosing. >> heather: we'll see what happens. thank you so much for joining us. thanks. >> gregg: a wild police chase was caught on videotape. we'll show you the twists, turns and near misses in the traffic. >> heather: and across the board spending cuts plunging america in uncharted territory. what it means for the average american. we will break it down next. s say around 2% to manage your money. that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. spoiler alert: it's low. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. e-trade. less for us. more for you. progress-oh! 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what does it mean to average americans? joining me is scott gam author of "help save my dollars now." hysteria is endemic in washington, d.c. and if anybody understands that it's wall street. they can smell manure a mile away and they are not buying it? >> they are not buying it and washington lost the power to move the markets. banks are doing a lot better than they were four years ago. if we think back in 2008, when the troubled asset relief program, that is when the wall street was on its knees. future lied in the hands of the government. banks are now doing better and we only saw four banks fail in 2013. small banks. if you look at the area of the government that wall street cares about, federal reserve, ben bernanke isn't going to do anything drastic in the near future. keep interest rates low. >> gregg: what is driving up wall street to near record highs? >> look, we're seeing a lot of great economic data out there. we had a terrible g.d.p. reported that showed the economy shrunk by a tenth of a percent. that was revived last week to show the opposite. still not what we need. >> gregg: not a rate of recovery above 5-6% and unemployment dropping down to 6%. >> but its start. we saw consumer sentiment increase and americans take on credit card. at least it shows they are safe enough to take on some debt. >> gregg: talk to my about autosales and real estate? >> we saw we saw 6.5 million cars this year. we're seeing that fueled by the housing market that is heating up in many areas across the country. we saw housing jump about 30% over the past year. we're also seeing credited for auto loans loosening up. interest rate about 3-5%. very affordable. we are seeing a lot of the other economic outputs in this country doing better and that is what causing the auto companies do better. >> gregg: what does it mean? >> if you are government worker, i will be affected but for the private sector, i don't think the sequester causing much trauma. it's a drop in the bucket and i think americans should be more concerned about the fact that personal income dropped 3.6% from december to january. that is big deal. also, we had the payroll tax holiday expire, so americans are giving up another 2% of their paycheck. if there is anything that americans have learned over the past four years, is how to make do with less. >> discretion ear spending has jumped 84% in the first two years since president obama took the oath 6 offers. there doesn't seem to be any sign that it is in a meaningful way going in the opposite direction. shouldn't that be a drag on the economy and on wall street? >> it is, but when you look at the amount of people that own our debt, we still better off than the rest of the world. what is happening, it's a vicious cycle where people continue to buy our debt and that exacerbates the problem. but a lot of americans you are turning their head. >> gregg: the president got $650 billion tax increase and yet again today he is demanding more. doesn't that affect wall street? >> it does but you have to figure. >> gregg: unless wall street doesn't think they will get it. >> the democrats are saying we need a balanced approach. folks on wall street, democrats are going to what they are going to do. we need to focus on continuing growth. >> gregg: when john boehner said new revenue, it's over. don't even talk about it. he won't allow it. wall street jumped up immediately. they like the tone right there. >> they did. we saw all the indices up on friday. hundred point shy of the october high. >> gregg: i'm waiting for the nosedive. it always happen. >> heather: we will hear more about the sequester on a highly anticipated edition of fox news sunday this weekend. tune in for this. chris wallace sits down wit interview for mitt romney. here is a preview. >> chris: during the last presidential debate, you brought up the effect the sequester would have on the military and president said.... >> this is not something i propose. it will not happen. >> chris: wrong on two fronts. >> i look at the sequester and the eggs operation of the bush tax cuts as an almost once in a generation opportunity for america to solve its fiscal problems if we do that we can become more competitive globally and american can lead the world in the coming century. it's being squandered by politics, by people who are more interested in a political victory than they are in doing what is right for the country. it's very frustrating. the hardest thing about losing is watching this critical moment, this golden moment just slip away with politics. >> heather: the interview is part of a three-hour special followed by the fox report with harris faulkner and all new show down on debt. that starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern only on the fox channel. setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. but once a week i let her play sheriff so i can wash it. i use tide to get out those week old stains and downy to get it fresh and soft. you are free to go. [ dad ] tide and downy together. >>. >> heather: john kerry is making his first tip to the middle east no shortage of challenges. critics say u.s. policy has left many of our staunchest allies uncertain of our support and long time enemies meantime, feeling they can do as they please, feeling emboldened. what has to be done to improve relations in the region. steven yates was former advisor to dick cheney and thank you so much for joining us first of all. >> thank you, heather. >> heather: what can our new secretary of state do to improve relations in the region? >> there are certain limits what he can do. what the region is hunger most is clear strategy about what president obama is going to do to accomplish objectives and what resources he is prepared to deploy in the region. secretary kerry has a daunting challenge. we have freedom fighters in syria who have been fighting a civil war approaching a third year and hungry for the resources in necessary to win a war. we have instability across the region, politics in egypt but also across northern africa. a lot of people there looking for what the united states might be willing to do to lead. then there is always iran. >> heather: i would like to go piece by piece. you mentioned syria's civil war. washington announced an additional $60 million to help opposition provide what they are calling basic services. is this do you believe a new approach with the administration finally becoming more engaged in syria? >> it sounds as though they are trying to sell it as new approach. i think a new approach is needed. humanitarian assistance is not what these rebels need in order to win a civil war. i think there is a great deal of frustration among the opposition. as imperfect they may be they are what president obama said must go. and state department holds in place a regime that sanctions regional allies and other from taking action to achieve the objective we have stated. >> heather: on iran and nuclear program, your thoughts on that. >> unfortunately in recent days we had sequester politics sending a negative decision to the withholding the deployment of an aircraft carrier. it's not just a israeli security issue, but major gulf coast allies are very concerned about iran's increasing influence in the region and lack of push back that the coalition participates in. there is a giant middle ground between plain talks and muscular military intervention. think the allies are hungry for real power. >> heather: we only have 60 seconds left. israel and palestinian stein? >> your that solving the issue is not a prerequisite to managing the broader region. we have post-arab spring and hopefully that will be the focus and not get into a trap in trying to negotiate a israeli and palestinian piece. >> egypt and several other countries are in a state of unrest right now. thank you very much. >> gregg: dangerous and uncertain world out there. that is going to do it for us. i hope you have a terrific rest of the weekend. >> heather: we will you back here tomorrow from 4:00 to 6:00. cavuto on business is up next. bye-bye. with the spark cash card from capital one... boris earns unlimited rewards for his small business. can i get the smith contract, ease? thank you. that's three new paper shredders. 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>> reporter: some republicans are steamed that the white house is inviting the pro choice advoca advocates. mike huckabee dubbed that a new low which will go down as the most anti-christian in american history. the white house says the pope deserves a diverse audience. >> here is a guess what the pope will say. the flaws of american capitalism. a theme he has stuck to in the 1990s. he wrote a book with a chapter of capitalism. it is good for development, it promotes greed and selfish behavior. he has been critical of how it destroyed the environment and he has tweeted inequality is the root of all evil. and overnight, ben carson's position of a muslim in the white house. he stands by the statement, carson did add an exception. >> if someone has a muslim background and they are willing to reject those tenants and accept the way of life we have and clearly we will swear to place our constitution above their religion, they will be considered infidels, but at least i would be willing to support them. >> carson's statements provoked a number of responses from his opponents. >> i don't think that religion should be criteria for being president. there should be an exclusion on faith or lack of faith. i know a ton of people that are peaceful muslims that live in the united states that love this country and patriotic americans and serve in the military. the idea that you would think otherwise is really not grounded in reality. >> ben was saying there are difficulties. i think everybody knows what the difficulties are. people want to be politically correct, but there have been difficulties. a lot of people agree with ben. i think ben would agree, though, if properly vetted, the proper people going through an election, i think anybody able to win an election will be fine. >> i don't think that should disqualify you from serving office. whether you are muslim or catholic or anything. if you have radical views and values, you will not get elected in this country. >> dr. carson answered critic m criticisms on his facebook page. under islamic law, homosexuals and men and women alike, must be killed. people following other religions will be killed. until these are renounced, i cannot advocate anyone for president. carson will hold two rallies in ohio as well as two conferences. scott walker is quitting the race after he slid in the polls in iowa. walker framed his departure as a move to enhance prospects as thinly veiled next year. >> i encourage other candidates to do the same so the voters can focus on a limited number of candidates who can offer a positive, conservative alternative to the current frontrunner. >> dana bash has the latest on walker's withdrawal. >> reporter: it is hard to believe six months ago that scott walker was on top of the national polls. he was winning in iowa in july, but his demise is the case study of the perils of runs in 2016 as a life long politician. donald trump came along and drowned out his message which is he was the guy to fight the conservative fight and actually win. at the end of the day, he had not been an outsider. he was in washington, but in government his whole life. voters don't appear to want that on the republican side. worse for walker were his missteps. sources said he was on too many sides of the same issue. he had trouble answering questions. like syrian refugees. he said that was a hypothetical. it came across as wishy-washy. it came across as voters wanted fortitude by candidates. then it was the issue of money. he failed to shine at the first debate last month and the money to the campaign dried up and they could not get it going. it has hard for him to pay the bills. another source told me walker told his aides how can i run a campaign against national debt if i have debt. it wasn't his time. >> he announced he was running and the aflcio said scott walker is a national disgrace. last night, aflcio celebrating. scott walker is a national disgrace. just not national anyway. >> home to wisconsin. a new campaign focus for hillary clinton in the campaign swing to the south. she slammed price gouging about the $4,000% hike in the price of one drug. let's get more from correspondent brianna keilar in little rock. >> reporter: good morning, john and christine. hillary clinton made visits to louisiana and arkansas to tout changes she wants to make to obamacare. a way to differentiate herself from others that want to repeal the law and differ herself from obama. she will talk in more detail about the policy prescriptions. on the trip through the south, she slammed republicans who want to get rid of the law all together. >> i was proud to be part of the obama administration when he signed the affordable care act into law. i called him. i was going on one of those foreign trips i had to go on as secretary of state. i was excited and i called him and said boy, mr. president, thank you for getting health care passed to help everybody in america. think about it. they all see it. repeal it. get rid of it. why would you repeal something that is working. >> reporter: hillary clinton may be breathing a cautious side of relief. 42% nationally. bernie sanders at 24%. biden at 22%. she has widened her lead there. biden is undecided whether he will get into the race. he talked to "america" catholic magazine. he realizes the timeframe is moving quickly. he says emotionally he may not be able to get there. it is three months since he lost his son beau biden. a mixed signal we are getting coming from his wife, jill. she has been someone who is more resistant to the idea of her husband running for president. a recent report said she is on board and amid news of that report, a spokesman for the second lady on the record that she is on board with her husband running for president if he decides to do that and stressing, of course, that he has not made up his mind yet. >> thank you, brianna. the chinese president xi jinping will land in seattle this afternoon to start a seven-day visit to the united states. tensions running high. he will meet with business, technology and aerospace leaders. all while the u.s. threatens sanctions over china over allegations of computer hacking and unfair trade practices. he will be honored on thursday at the white house followed by a major address to the u.n. the white house is shifting focus on war on isis and shifting toward syria. the campaign in iraq has stalled. kurdish forces are making advances in syria. complicating the situation russia. russia sent in two dozen more fighter jets to protect the assad regime. carly fiorina showing off her improv singing chops. in an appearance on "the tonight show" she sang about her dog snickers. >> i make up songs. my mother and i used to sing all the time. >> is it dorky? >> dorky? my dogs are not dorky. >> is the singing dorky. i sing to my dog and it is dorky. we all do. ♪ i'm lazy ♪ please don't take a walk with me ♪ ♪ i'd rather stay here at home and i want to lie back down ♪ ♪ in my nice warm bed ♪ you're going to have to carry me ♪ >> it not easy to sing on national television. >> she kicks off a three-day swing on charleston and town hall in myrtle beach. 12 minutes past the hour. the kentucky clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses to gay couples brought to tears in her first interview after being out of jail. oks e have som of sea monster in the water hazard here. i believe that's a "kraken", bruce. it looks like he's going to go with a nine iron. that may not be enough club... well he's definitely going to lose a stroke on this hole. if you're a golf commentator, you whisper. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. this golf course is electric... kim davis, the kentucky clerk who became a national lightning rod for refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses tells abc verbal attacks are not who she is. >> i have been called a hypocrite and i have been called things and names that i didn't even say when i was in the world. those names don't hurt me. what probably hurts me the worst -- is when someone tells me that my god does not love me. >> davis said issuing licenses to gay couples would go against her religion. she was jailed this month and released on a judge's order that she do nothing to interfere with her deputies issuing licenses to all eligible couples. james blake met face-to-face with the mayor and police commissioner of new york. this came two weeks after he was attacked by an undercover officer. blake said the sit-down was productive and both heard his plea for greater police accountability. >> we are not looking for a quick lawsuit. we are not looking for anything that will be a quick and easy solution. we are looking for a positive impact on the city and police force. >> blake called for the officer to be fired, but monday he said the officer has due process rights. a devastating wildfire burned through more than 1,000 homes in a blaze that is waging north of san francisco. more than 118 square miles of lake county have been torched with the fire 70% contained. nearly 7,000 more homes in the harm's way. a second fire in the sierra area is at risk. at least five people have already been killed. there are ten active wildfires in northern california. southern california facing more weather problems as well. let's get to meteorologist pedram javaheri. >> good morning, christine and john. the fire situation across california is improving for parts of california with the large fire and valley fire last week. now 75% contained. incredible to think this particular fire, the top three when it it comes to the most destructive as far as structure damage. valley fire with 1,700 damaged. wet weather maker pushing in from phoenix and east. with heavy rainfall and 6 million people under a flood watch across the region. summer for much of the country is not over. high pressure tries to build. we go above average for the mid section of the country and parts of the northeast with the northwest below average. the wet weather confined to the southwest and thunderstorms popping up in and around the southeast from atlanta back to mobile as the storms migrant to tallahassee. the high temperatures not bad. upper 70s from pittsburgh to new york. in the mid-90s from dallas to little rock. thank you, pedram. europe divided over how to handle a flood of migrants and refugees. officials studying a new meeting to solve this crisis. 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up to provide health care and shelter and food before routing them to germany. other eu nations not so hungary. i want to go live to berlin and bring in cnn's atika shubert. atika, we hear about new meetings and discussions about what to do about the migrant flow, it does nothing to stem the fact that there are people right now, thousands of people who are homeless and looking for their final destination. >> reporter: exactly. everyone here in the eu seems to agree this is an urgent crisis that needs to be resolved, yet there is no unifying agreement that all 28-eu member nations can agree. hungary in particular saying the focus should be on keeping refugees and migrants out. you can see they are deploying the army and taking more repression measures. they say they will find another way around the wall that it has built. germany wants to focus on resettlement. they want to make countries like hungary and other eastern european nations take in more refugees. hungary says it doesn't want to be bullied in taking in refugees. if anyone is going to make the decisions, it is the hungarian government itself. there is a lot of discussion of who should take in refugees and how many and how to register refugees. the fact is there is no consensus. it is unlikely we will get one by tomorrow. >> atika shubert, thank you. still a difficult situation. this is something european leaders said they know this is going to be a multiyear influx of people. pope francis is coming to the united states. he arrives here today. he has never been here before. this is an historic visit. there is some controversy. all the details next. history coming to the united states. pope francis arrives here for the first time ever. a trip that is coming with some controver controversy. controversy in the run for president. ben carson would say the only way he would support a muslim for president. carly fiorina shows off a lighter side and scott walker drops out. welcome back to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. 30 minutes past the hour. a huge day in washington. pope francis arrives in the united states for the first trip ever. flying in from cuba. the pope greeted at joint base andrews by the president, vice president and their wives. a rare formality. a sign of the great importance the president is placing on the pope's visit. now while the pope is one of the world's leading religious figures, there are religious overtones. let's get more from jim acosta. >> reporter: the white house is going to great length to take the politics out of the pope's visit. that may be impossible. pope francis and president obama are allies on many as the white house led the charge for same-sex marriage. pope francis softened his stance on gay priests. he slammed trickle down economics. the president counted on the pope for the support of the nuclear deal apparend policy on. the white house is trying to downplay the notion that the trip is all about politics. here is what the white house press secretary had to say. >> no plan or strategy put in place to stage anybody's political agenda. >> reporter: some republicans are steamed that the white house is inviting pro-choice advocates to the arrival ceremony at the white house. mike huckabee dubbed that a new low for the administration that will go down as the most anti-christian in american history. the white house insists the pope deserves a diverse audience. >> jim, thank you. ben carson softening his stance against a muslim in the white house. while standing by his statement he would oppose the election of a faithful muslim to the united states. he added one exception. >> someone has a muslim background and they are willing to reject those tenets and accept the way of life we have and clearly will swear to place the constitution above their religion, then, of course, they will be considered infidels. but at least i will be willing to support them. >> carson's statements provoked no shortage of response from opponents. >> i don't think that religion should be a criteria for being president. there should be an exclusion based on one's faith or lack of faith, frankly. i know a ton of people that are peaceful muslims that live in the united states that love this country or are patriotic americans and serve in the military. the idea you would think otherwise is really not grounded in reality. >> ben was saying there are difficulties. i think everybody knows what the difficulties are. people want to be politically correct. there have been difficulties. a lot of people agree with ben. i do think ben would agree if properly vetted, the properly people vetted going through an election, i think that anybody that is able to win an election will be absolutely fine. >> i personally do not believe your religious denomination should disqualify you from serving in office. that is what the voters decide. i just say this, whether muslim or catholic or anything, if you have radical views and values, you will not get elected in this country. >> carson answered those criticisms on his facebook page. those republicans that take issue with my position are amazing. under islamic law, help sexuc h must be killed. people following other religions must be killed. i know many do not adhere to these beliefs. until these tenets are fully renounced, i cannot back any muslim for president. carson will be in ohio where he is set to hold two news conferences and two rallies. >> let me weigh in on the tweet from mitt romney. every faith adds to our national character. one issue of that law. the word law in and of itself is misleading. in the united states, we have law and it is the constitution. everything else is under that. there were 15. an announcement that would have been unthinkable one month ago. scott walker dropped out of the race for president. he plummeted to literally an asterisk in the most recent poll. he asked others to drop out with him. taking a shot at donald trump on the way out. >> i encourage other candidates to consider doing the same so that the voters can focus on a limited number of candidates who can offer a positive, conservative alternative to the current frontrunner. >> dana bash with the latest on walker's withdraw. >> reporter: it is had to believe six months ago scott walker was on top of the polls. his demise is the case study of running for president in 2016. donald trump came along and drowned out walker's message. he was the guy who could fight the conservative fight and actually win. because at the end of the day, he had not been an outsider. he was in government his whole life. voters at this point don't appear to want that on the republican side. worse for walker were his own missteps. sources close to him tell me he was on too many sides of the same issue. he had trouble answering questions. for example, what would you do with syrian refugees. he said that was hypothetical. it came across as pandering. at the end of the day, it was about money. sources tell me he failed to shine in the first debate last month and the money to his campaign dried up and they could not get it back going again. it was hard for him to pay the bills. another source told me that walker told his aides how can i run a campaign against the national debt if i have campaign debt. it wasn't his time. john and christine. >> scott walker made his name by clashing with the unions. the head of the aflcio put out a scathing statement i have ever heard. scott walker is still a disgrace. just no longer nationally. >> very few words. he announced he was running, the only thing he said was scott walker was a national disgrace. hillary clinton defending obamacare and previewing fixes and tweaks she would make to it. she took up the theme of health care in the south. she slammed price gouging by pharmaceutical companies pointing to headlines of a 5,000% hike in the price of an old line parasitic drug. i'll tell you, some of the stocks were moving yesterday. a candidate for president moving the stock market. let's go to brianna keilar in little rock. >> reporter: clinton made visits to arkansas to tout changes to obamacare. a way to differentiate herself from republicans who want to repeal the law and also president obama. she will talk in more detail about the policy prescriptions are later today. on her trip through the south, she slammed republicans who want to get rid of the law all together. >> i was so proud to be part of president obama's administration when he signed the affordable care act into law. i was going on one of the foreign trips i had to go on as secretary of state. i called him. i said, mr. president, thank you. thank you for getting health care passed to help everybody in america. think about it. they all say this. repeal it. get rid of it. why would you repeal something that is working to help people. >> reporter: hillary clinton may be breathing a cautious sigh of relief. the latest poll has her at 42% nationally. bernie sanders at 24%. biden at 22%. biden, of course, is still undecided if he will get into the race. he talked to "america" catholic magazine. he realizes a timeframe is moving quickly. he said he may not be able to get there. he said it is three months since he lost his son beau biden. a mixed signal we are getting from his wife. she has been someone who is more resistant to the idea of her husband returning for president. a recent report says she is on board and amid news of that report, a spokesman for the second lady said she is on board with her husband running for president if he decides to do that. stressing that he has not made up his mind yet. >> thanks, brianna. wall street is betting hillary clinton is not good for the tech industry. stocks tumbled yesterday after the comments. she called out the drug daraprime. it was recently bought by touring pharmaceuticals. it jumped from $14 a tablet to a 5,000% hike. he says it is not profitable and just trying to stay in business. clinton will unveil a plan to rein in drug costs. carly fiorina is running for president and what about improv singing? she apparently sang off the cuff about her dog snickers. >> i have two dogs. snickers and max. my mother and i used to sing all the time. >> is it dorky. >> dorky? my dogs are not dorky. >> is the singing dorky. i sing to my dogs. it is dorky. ♪ please don't take a walk with me i'd rather stay at home ♪ ♪ i want to lie back down in my warm bed ♪ ♪ i am sick and you're going to have to carry me ♪ >> that's pretty cute. >> i think it's brave to sing like that. i think she should do it at every campaign stop. today, carly fiorina particular kicks off a three-day swing in charleston and town hall in myrtle beach. the kentucky clerk once jailed for refusing marriage licenses to gay couples breaks down in tears. kim davis, the kentucky clerk refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses told abc in an interview say the remarks do not define who she is. >> i have been called hitler and hypocrite and homophobe. i have been called things and names that i didn't even say when i was in the world. those things don't hurt me. what probably hurts me the worst is when someone tells me that my god does not love me. >> davis has said issues licenses to gay couples would violate her conscious. she was jailed earlier this month released on a judge's order that she do nothing to interfere with her deputies issuing licenses to all legally eligible couples. james blake meeting face-to-face with the new york mayor and police commissioner two weeks after he was mistak mistakenly jumped by an officer. blake said the sit-down was productive and they both heard his plea for greater police accountability. >> we are not looking for a quick lawsuit or anything that will be a quick and easy solution. we are looking for lasting and positive impact on the city and on the police force. >> he said he understand the police officer has due process while the department goes through the process. the parents of the 14-year-old muslim student pulled him out of the dallas high school after being suspended for bringing a clock to class. his father says his son needs a breather before getting on to another school. momahed will go on a mecca before meeting president obama. the wildfires raging north of san francisco. a fire only 70% contained and nearly 7,000 homes are in its path. the total losses now nearly 1,600. there are ten active wildfires in northern california. europe now divided over how to handle the flood of refugees. officials setting a new meeting to try to solve this crisis next. eu leaders are hoping to get agreement to stem the flow of migrants in europe. they will meet in brussels this week. the plan may include a 1 billion euro payment to help with the crisis. austria is stepping up taking in thousands of refugees providing health care and shelter and food before routing them to germany. other eu nations do not seem welcoming. hungary's parliament is bringing troops. let's go live to cnn's atika shubert. atika. >> reporter: interior ministers are meeting in brussels at this point, but there is no agreement. more than ten hours of meetings yesterday and still no agreement on one proposal. basically what is happening here is the eu is agreed to take in 120,000 refugees, but where do they go? hungary and check zech republic saying they cannot take too much. the problem is you cannot force any of the countries to take in refugees. there could be financial penalties for countries that don't take in refugees. this is what they are discussing today. it is unlikely they will get agreement today. however, there will be a summit meeting tomorrow where the eu leaders will meet hoping to get some urgent resolution on this crisis. >> atika shubert for us. so much going on and so many people hoping for answers. ready for your new iphone? >> amazing. >> that's next. ♪ look how beautiful it is... honey, we need to talk. we do? i took the trash 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"early start" continues right now. >> pope francis arrives in the united states today in an historic visit. he has never been here before. it is a trip with some controversy. the race for president shaken up. ben carson defending his comments on muslims. carly fiorina debuts a softer side and sings into the microphone. scott walker drops out. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. tuesday, september 22nd, 5:00 a.m. pope francis arrives in the united states for his first trip ever to the country. flying in from cuba, the pope will be greeted at andrews by the president and vice president and their wives. this is a rare formality. it is a sign of the great importance the president is placing on the pope's visit and sign of respect. the pope is one of the world's leading religious figures, there are political overtones. let's get the latest from jim acosta. >> reporter: john and christine, the white house is going to great lengths to take the politics out of the pope's visit. republicans strongly oppose as the white house led the charge for same-sex marriage, pope francis softened the stance. he has slammed trickle down economics. the president counted on the pope as supporter for the iran nuclear deal and policy on cuba. with the next presidential election heating up, the white house is trying to downplay the next that the pope's trip is all about politics. >> you know, there is no plan or strategy that
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