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>> mike, you just took the words out of my mouth when i talked about ami. the prosecution and the government is building a foundation of corroborating evidence by using ami to bolster michael cohens claims in the future so that its not a he said, he said situation. that is the purpose of ami. the government knows they need a well corroborated case with document, text messages, e-mails, anything they can because this is not an easy crime to establish beyond a reasonable doubt. >> lets go to caddi...

There would be no other reason to engage ami and to have michael cohen establish that fact of the violation of the law. also, with michael cohen rushing in to plead guilty last week to a -- for lying to congress, false statements to congress, it raises the question why have him come in and plead guilty for the special counsels office to such a relatively minor federal crime. and the answer may be that the special counsels office is laying another foundation, a foundation for those lies to congre...

True. >> when you put it that way, it sounds serious. hey, gene, we just heard minutes ago a brief interview in the hallway with james kennedy of louisiana, and he said, we cant convict based on the word of michael cohen. thats how fast news changes because now ami is willing to say, we handled that. your role here tonight is to tell us how far from true north we have traveled, how far from normal is just what weve seen this week. >> were way far from normal, nowhere near normal. it hasnt been f...

And theres also steve bannon. there is also reince priebus. theyve all sat in front of the congress and offered testimony under oath that they said was true. >> when you put it that way, it sounds serious. hey, gene, we just heard minutes ago a brief interview in the hallway with james kennedy of louisiana, and he said, we cant convict based on the word of michael cohen. thats how fast news changes because now ami is willing to say, we handled that. your role here tonight is to tell us how far f...

The stormy daniels payment. >> if there are no payments, would getting together with an organization like american media and agreeing to the scheme of killing stories, catching and killing and all the things they agreed to, if no money changed hands, would that have been illegal? it may have been unethical, but would it have been illegal? >> technically, yes. thats a conspiracy. a conspiracy is an agreement to do something wrong. you dont actually have to succeed in the object of the conspiracy....

In a conspiracy to commit a felony. so we dont just have michael cohen on that now, we have ami and david pecker saying the same thing. and, by the way, we have a tape recording that michael cohen secretly made. you could make a case out of that, you know, the prosecutor wouldnt have to be a veteran, he could make a case out of it. the second thing that changed was that interview with letitia james who made it clear the incoming attorney general of new york state, made it clear that she intends ...

Significant risk for the president. depending on what the specifics of that information are, we dont yet know that. that could be a significant concern for the president. with respect to what weve been talking about here with ami, with david pecker, with these payments to women who allege affairs with the president, the southern district has made it clear that michael cohen has cooperated in the fullest sense of what they would define as normal cooperation. i think it remains to be seen whether ...

Payments, but it was this private -- i think giuliani even used the term settling a civil suit or something. >> right. >> so trying to make it sound like it had nothing to do with the campaign. nothing, no big picture here. and now youve got ami saying, no, in addition to cohen -- so you have cohen already, and there are two different payments. but essentially about those two payments, first you have cohen and now you have ami saying this was for the purpose of influencing the election, which fr...

>> the coordinators and the checkbook here are saying yes. >> why is pecker -- he was reimbursed? i never quite understand where the scheme ends up. does the money end up back in peckers pocket? >> i believe ami put the money out and then cohen reimbursed. >> thats part of the reason for the structuring. >> and then cohens reimbursement was made to look like a retainer from the trump organization. so the trump organization has some liability here as well, which is where i think, you know, the so...

>> i can tell you this. when you base your relationship with someone whose entire universe is his own self-interest, that loyalty gets very short when he doesnt support you and you -- the light bulb goes on and you realize its all about him, theres no protection for you. my history with ami and david pecker goes back to the fact that i was the on-scene commander back in october of 2001 at the scene of the first anthrax murder in u.s. history at ami headquarters in boca raton, florida. we had a c...