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But they do need the right to be respected. I think theyre living beings just like us, and so they should be understood as much as we possibly can understand them. We shouldnt inflict needless pain on them, and we should curb some of our habits that cause them a lot of suffering. Peta, your organisation, people for the ethical treatment of animals, opposes what it calls speciesism and a, quote, human supremacist worldview. Can you sort of explain what that actually means? well, i think we have t...

Welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. Let me start by trying to establish a core principle. Is it your belief that animals should enjoy equal rights, the same rights as humans . Well, not the same rights, because, of course, they dont need the right to do some of the things we wish to do, like drive a car or vote, although they might do better than weve done sometimes. But they do need the right to be respected. I think theyre living bein...

Welcome to hardtalk. Im stephen sackur. We humans have a complicated relationship with animals. Some we pet, some we skin, some we eat. We destroy their wild habitats while we agonise about the loss of species diversity. It is not an equal relationship, its exploitative, but will it ever change . And if so, how . My guest is determined that it should. Ingrid newkirk is president and Co Founder of the Campaign Group people for the ethical treatment of animals. Is she the Human Ally Animals need ....

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>> tv is changing dramatically now with 150 channels that might be available in the near future. there are a lot of things we do you couldnt have on network television. >> this is more a celebration of culture, opening the doors and allowing america to come on inside. >> theres always something on television and some of it may be better than we deserve. >> that was cool. ♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ] listen to it. oh, they know when it hits the bottom, it will be 1990, good-bye t...

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we do that you couldnt have on network television. >> people are really trying to do something adventurous. >> channel 7, shame on you! >> this is more celebration of culture and opening the doors and allowing america to come on inside. >> there is always something on television, and some of it may be better than we deserve. >> that was cool. ♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ] listen to it. oh, they know when it hits the bottom, it will be 1990, good-bye to the 80s. >> ten, nine, eight ...

♪ ♪ ♪ listen to it. they know when it hits the bottom, it will be 1990, good-bye to the 80s. >> will this horrible year never end? >> when the 90s begin, were starting to see a lot of experimentation. >> five, four, three, two, one! >> the simpsons in some sense was inspired by not necessarily hatred of television but distrust. >> tv respects me. it laughs with me, not at me. >> youre stupid. >> doh! >> i think the sitcoms of the 80s were such a sort of warm safe humor. >> you ...