And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Investigative journalist Annie Jacobsen has written what she says is the definitive history of the militarys decades long experiment with mental powers like esp. Her new book reveals how the government used psychic spies during the iran hostage crisis and the cia search for psychedelic mushrooms. It is called phenomena, the secret history of the u. S. Governments investigations into extra Sensory Perception and psycho kin easis. Annie, good to have you back on this program. Thank you. Can you see this, jonathan . This is like, you write these texts that are like theyre so dense. It is a big story. It is a big story, but thats a lot of research though. You just keep going at it. Thats the joy of it. I mean i interviewed a lot of scientists. All of the original cia scientists and the dod scientists and a lot of the psychics themselves. Yeah. So you just write in it when youre doing that. And you heard what . I mea
And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Investigative journalist Annie Jacobsen has written what she says is the definitive history of the militarys decades long experiment with mental powers like esp. Her new book reveals how the government used psychic spies during the iran hostage crisis and the cia search for psychedelic mushrooms. It is called phenomena, the secret history of the u. S. Governments investigations into extra Sensory Perception and psycho kin easis. Annie, good to have you back on this program. Thank you. Can you see this, jonathan . This is like, you write these texts that are like theyre so dense. It is a big story. It is a big story, but thats a lot of research though. You just keep going at it. Thats the joy of it. I mean i interviewed a lot of scientists. All of the original cia scientists and the dod scientists and a lot of the psychics themselves. Yeah. So you just write in it when youre doing that. And you heard what . I mea
, its the same. Would it be . Yeah, the holly hunter moment is i dont know if you remember that movie broadcast news where she would cry all the time. Well, that would be me, but when i saw her for the first time like on the National Stage in the New York Times than it was clear that she was going to become the first lady, i literally burst into tears like from my guts and it was because it was the first time i had ever seen someone on a National Stage , you know, who was like me , who is really like me. You know, and i think in reference to your question, taking away you know its affirmation. Its simple. Dislike the mirror. Its like the its the woman in full and just to touch on what you said about the election one of the things i said to this paper is you know, whats clear, what became clear was this sort of iowa to say rejection, but for lack of a better word of hillary is a sort of the same thing with people who are michelle distractors and a lot of americans are comfortable, arent
, its the same. Would it be . Yeah, the holly hunter moment is i dont know if you remember that movie broadcast news where she would cry all the time. Well, that would be me, but when i saw her for the first time like on the National Stage in the New York Times than it was clear that she was going to become the first lady, i literally burst into tears like from my guts and it was because it was the first time i had ever seen someone on a National Stage , you know, who was like me , who is really like me. You know, and i think in reference to your question, taking away you know its affirmation. Its simple. Dislike the mirror. Its like the its the woman in full and just to touch on what you said about the election one of the things i said to this paper is you know, whats clear, what became clear was this sort of iowa to say rejection, but for lack of a better word of hillary is a sort of the same thing with people who are michelle distractors and a lot of americans are comfortable, arent
, its the same. Would it be . Yeah, the holly hunter moment is i dont know if you remember that movie broadcast news where she would cry all the time. Well, that would be me, but when i saw her for the first time like on the National Stage in the New York Times than it was clear that she was going to become the first lady, i literally burst into tears like from my guts and it was because it was the first time i had ever seen someone on a National Stage , you know, who was like me , who is really like me. You know, and i think in reference to your question, taking away you know its affirmation. Its simple. Dislike the mirror. Its like the its the woman in full and just to touch on what you said about the election one of the things i said to this paper is you know, whats clear, what became clear was this sort of iowa to say rejection, but for lack of a better word of hillary is a sort of the same thing with people who are michelle distractors and a lot of americans are comfortable, arent