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documents for material they carry a maximum sentenc of ten years behind bars so how do we get here? well, last week the new york's heist publishes story about th existence of the frostbite documents that have been circulating on social medi exposing potentially hundred of pages of intelligence about u.s. spying methods and russia efforts in ukraine after an intense weeklon investigation, federal authorities were elected t share an i.t. specialist a otis international guard base, he holds top secret security clearance when has bee allegedly posting classified information online since december joining me down is a mar tomrob-less, he's an nbc national security an intelligence analyst and he's former cia officer it's good to have you back i the show i think you were quite shocked that these leaks first appeare on a gaming chat room that consisted mostly of teenager and moderated by a 21-year-old to share i need to know, were you surprised by this? is this something that caugh
daniels ones that didn't actually go to a catch and kil and there was a private paymen that was facilitated from trum to her, but he was als involved in the karen mcdougal case where there was a catch and kill a catch and kill, most peopl know it, but it's where yo take a story and instead o publishing it you pay for it you kill it. he's been in the center of all these, and there's a third cas that's lesser known about this door man at trump's building where there was a payment made that this dorman claimed h knew something about a child that donald trump had fathered out of wedlock the door man had taken a payment of $30,000 it turns out that stories been debunked, but that payment was made the day that pecker is in the center of all of this. he was a figure when michael cohen went to jail, and no proceeding, and he has appeare before the grand jury in the case now against the peopl versus donald trump. he has immunity. i think he is going to be fron
knew something about a child that donald trump had fathered out of wedlock the door man had taken a payment of $30,000 it turns out that stories been debunked, but that payment was made the day that pecker is in the center of all of this. he was a figure when michael cohen went to jail, and no proceeding, and he has appeare before the grand jury in the case now against the peopl versus donald trump. he has immunity. i think he is going to be fron and center at this trial, expected to go trial at this trial. it is really fastening to see, because we've been so focuse on michael cohen but it's going to be both of one. >> that's a really good point. jennifer, we've been talking a lot and looking at how republicans have responded t this, as i just outlined i this ultimately gets to tria on schedule, it'll probably be at some point in the primary you said that the gop primar is basically becoming a race t see which of his opponents are going to defend donald trump what are your concerns as we head into 2024 as we begin t see this case unfold over th next several months. based on what we see over th past two weeks reindictment an post indictment -- basically crying on tv or ru desantis or others coming to the defense of that no
made the day that pecker is in the center of all of this. he was a figure when michael cohen went to jail, and no proceeding, and he has appeare before the grand jury in the case now against the peopl versus donald trump. he has immunity. i think he is going to be fron and center at this trial, expected to go trial at this trial. it is really fastening to see, because we've been so focuse on michael cohen but it's going to be both of one. >> that's a really good point. jennifer, we've been talking a lot and looking at how republicans have responded t this, as i just outlined i this ultimately gets to tria on schedule, it'll probably be at some point in the primary you said that the gop primar is basically becoming a race t see which of his opponents are going to defend donald trump what are your concerns as we head into 2024 as we begin t see this case unfold over th
in this case trump haters. he calls their wives trump haters there is nothing improper abou a prosecutor or judge hating the defendant. it's happened many times they do take an oath to trea that defended fairly prosecutors and judges of th nuremberg trials hated the nazi's they were put on tria for the extermination of 6 million jews many prosecutors have hate murderers, who they have prosecuted many judges have hated rapists of children and murderers of children that have appeare before them. their oath required them t treat those defendants fairly. the prosecutors of organized crime -- joe gaudy, who donald trum models himself after, it had every right to hate john gati, but they have no right to trea him unfairly as a defendant, i know prosecutors who hated defendants
contempt of court. then they can appear not to be prejudiced against donal trump. trump calls the manhatta district attorney and the judg in this case trump haters. he calls their wives trump haters there is nothing improper abou a prosecutor or judge hating the defendant. it's happened many times they do take an oath to trea that defended fairly prosecutors and judges of th nuremberg trials hated the naz 's they were put on trial fo the extermination of 6 million jews many prosecutors have hate murderers, who they have prosecuted many judges have hated rapists of children and murderers of children that have appeare before them. their oath required them t treat those defendants fairly. the prosecutors of organized crime --
nicaraguan border, wild bill and his wife are merged in shackles, charged with the murders. bill's wife was subdued. and she denied any involvement bill, however, appeare surprisingly cheerful, sayin he was happy to be back in panama >> those first days, when bill was brought back to panama what was he like >> he was making jokes and h was laughing he was really -- he went and wanted people to see him. he was trying to show off. >> national director of police gustavo perez, interrogate wild bill, and said he talke openly about the killings. he admitted to shooting bo o his boat for cher, it started with friendly dinner on bills place afterwards, she was take outside to look at som animals. when she turned to look at them, he shot her. >> did bill tell you why h
carefully guarded secret, from most of the folks here i colusa county. >> but, pete's past was not secret everybody knew he didn't lik roberto ayala. and everybody knew he was suspect. around town, could you hea what people were whispering? >> pete. >> pete, pete, pete. >> pete, pete, pete. >> but not paul? >> not paul >> then, five months into the investigation there wa news, of the sort from one o the crime labs a male like hair was found under a label of one of th envelopes and the dna came bac matching, nobody no one in the moore or anyon of the dakotas base. odd? had it been planted there to throw off investigators? then one of these envelope finally gave up what appeare to be a real clue. >> there was a dna profile fro fingerprint ridged details o the back of one of the stamp
bragg, the manhattan distric attorney, had fallen apart at times mr. trump has appeare significantly disconnected fro the severity of his potentia legal woes, according to peopl who have spent time with him i recent days. joining us now is someone wh has spent what time with him i not-so-recent days, mary trump a clinical psychologist an niece of donald trump. she is the host of the podcast the mary trump show and author of the reckoning, our nation's trauma and finding a way t heal mary trump, thank you very muc for joining us in our last segment we had two members of congress, and so we heard the high minded preach meant that we should get fro members of congress saying and that there is nothing to celebrate tonight. i have a feeling that there ar millions of people watchin this right now in a celebrator mood >> and, lawrence, that is fair