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that s how we re handling this as a nation, seriously. joining us, elizabeth birnbaum, director of the minerals management service at the time of the oil disaster. i appreciate your time. thanks for being here. thank you. have we gotten any better at cleaning up oil spills, particularly after the deepwater horizon disaster? have we had any technological breakthroughs in cleanup? there haven t been any technological breakthroughs, and really the technology for cleaning up oil spills hasn t improved much over decades. when we were cleaning up the bp spill, we were using much of the same technology that was used in 1969 to clean up the santa barbara blowout. it only removed a small percentage of the oil from the ocean. when you talk about the arctic, it s much more complicated to clean up because you re dealing with an environment where there is ice in the water much of the year. there s only a small period in the summer when they have clear water. and that makes cleanup much more
as a nation, seriously. joining us, elizabeth birnbaum, director of the u.s. minerals management service at the time of the deep water oil disaster. i appreciate your time. thanks for being here. thank you. have we gotten any better at cleaning up oil spills, particularly after the deepwater horizon disaster? have we had any technological breakthroughs in cleanup? there haven t been any technological breakthroughs, and really the technology for cleaning up oil spills hasn t improved much over decades. when we were cleaning up the bp spill, we were using much of the same technology that was used in 1969 to clean up the santa barbara blowout. it only removed a small percentage of the oil from the ocean. when you talk about the arctic, it s much more complicated to clean up because you re dealing with an environment where there is ice in the water much of the year. there s only a small period in the summer when they have clear water. and that makes cleanup much more difficult, and n
same technology. and again, if you do that in an environment where half of the sea is covered with ice, nobody quite knows how any of those technologies work in that environment. looking at shell s experience in 2012 and early 2013 of trying trying to set up drilling practices in the arctic, they as far as i could tell were considered to be the best at the industry for trying to do something like that. my when i look at their record just as a layman, i see a sort of comedy of errors or at least comedy of unfortunate incidents for shell where things kept going wrong after wrong after wrong after wrong. and they weren t dealing with spills. should we see the industry as being able to offer operate safely in an arctic environment even if they re not spilling? i was stunned, i have to say, when they ran aground. this was a situation where shell had invested over $1 billion in ships, equipment, the permitting process, but had truly invested
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