and if the republicans can associate with that they could make some headway. they care about medicare and the los angeles times has an arm out today, paul ryan is going to reintroduce as part of the republican budget, the vouchers for everyone under 56 years old for medicare. that already has been proven to be a political loser. it is hari-kari. it was in the middle of a vigorous campaign and maybe it wasn t sold correctly. i call it insanity, the definition of which is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. it was proven in the campaign it didn t work. ryan did not add to the ticket and to go back to that when they are losing on medicare is a losing. gregg: he was demagogued with granny-over-the cliff ads. the republican for the