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election case will successfully have his charges moved to federal court. that said to be the subject of an evidentiary hearing at ten, am eastern tomorrow morning. meadows requested hinges on the so-called federal law removal statute, which allows federal officials charged with crimes to transfer a state case to federal court. only if they can prove that the alleged criminal behavior was carried out as part of their official duties. in order to prove that, many legal experts say meadows will need to take the stand. fulton county district attorney fani willis who is fighting to keep the case within her county has already subpoenaed to witnesses to testify on monday. that is secretary of state brad raffensperger and his chief investigator francis watson. it sets the scene for a dramatic day in court, which politicos kyle cheney has dubbed a, quote many trial. the second key answer that we should have as soon as tomorrow when we could expect to see

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with her talking to smith, who is investigating the same crime. the attempt to overturn an election. right, you re 100 percent correct about that. there is nothing wrong with federal and state prosecutors coordinating. it happens all the time every day in this country. jim jordan knows that. he knows that fani willis will not comply with his demands, because they are improper, just like the ones made to alvin bragg and manhattan or. so, our only possible takeaway here is that jordan is not engaging in some form of legitimate congressional oversight. this is just political posturing at its worst. he s hoping he can cast aspersions, he can convince people who are poorly informed that something inappropriate happened. it s really a desperate last gasp of trying to delegitimized body well as his prosecutions. christina, i want to turn now to this morning an impeachment inquiry from speaker mccarthy. philip bump in the washington post put it like this. if an

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joyce, david brings up an interesting point. i m curious, could jack smith ask fani willis, not necessarily to drop the charges, could there be some kind of arrangement saying, hey, mark meadows is going to be a critical witness for us. we would rather see him not to be involved in your case that could sour him. that could make him not to cooperate as much as we like him to. how does that work, for example, the dynamic between what fani willis wants to prosecute mark meadows for, perhaps what david jolly was suggesting. that jack smith may want mark meadows to be a cooperating witness on the federal side. the way this would normally work, if meadows was cooperating with jack smith in the federal case, and the process of negotiating that agreement everyone would have honestly acknowledge that meadows had exposure in georgia, maybe in other places. it would have been an effort to make a global plea agreement. it doesn t particularly to cooperate with jack smith. to still face the ris

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votes in georgia. he certainly has some sort of top level role in ensuring elections are fair. here mark meadows was trying to get into places where votes are being counted. he was setting up calls with the secretary of state, with investigators trying to change the outcome of the vote counts in georgia., so willis will argue that this was simply not the work of the white house, of the people, of the presidency. this was advancing the interests of candidate donald trump. professor, greer as i mentioned. willis is lining up raffensperger and the chief investigator to counter the argument. how crucial do you think their testimony will be for the judges as they consider whether to move it to federal court or not? i i think it s incredibly important. a, it will set precedent, b, ayman, everyone around donald trump either has been in prison, is

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elections are fair. here mark meadows was trying to get into places where votes are being counted. he was setting up calls with the secretary of state, with investigators trying to change the outcome of the vote counts in georgia. , so willis will argue that this was simply not the work of the white house, of the people, of the presidency. this was advancing the interests of candidate donald trump. professor, greer as i mentioned. willis is lining up raffensperger and the chief investigator to counter the argument. how crucial do you think their testimony will be for the judges as they consider whether to move it to federal court or not? i i think it s incredibly important. a, it will set precedent, b, ayman, everyone around donald trump either has been in prison, is going to, prison or is trying to stay out of prison. so, think about raffensperger, and folks who are in georgia on the ground. i am hoping that they will have the common sense and the legal

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