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investigation into potential war crimes and crimes against humanity in ukraine. so there are multiple venues where war crimes trials can happen. >> so where do we think that might happen with someone like vladimir putin? >> that's the challenge, right? if he remains in the kremlin, he will be out of reach of many of these war crimes courts. but if he begins to travel or if his associates travel, who are complicit or otherwise involved in these abuses, if lower-level soldiers eventually want to go on vacation or otherwise travel, they will be amenable to war crimes jurisdiction. there is no statute of limitations for war crimes. >> ambassador, it is good to see the u.s. government calling out war crimes in ukraine and assisting in the documenting of those war crimes, but i do wonder -- and i'm sure many others wonder, too -- where is that same kind of commitment went it comes to other conflicts, for example, the war in yemen, where multiple atrocities have been documented by both sides, but many of those have been documented by saudi arabia. wouldn't we have more credibility if we condemned

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his associates travel, who are complicit or otherwise involved in these abuses, if lower-level soldiers eventually want to go on vacation or otherwise travel, they will be amenable to war crimes jurisdiction. there is no statute of limitations for war crimes. >> ambassador, it is good to see the u.s. government calling out war crimes in ukraine and assisting in the documenting of those war crimes, but i do wonder -- and i'm sure many others wonder, too -- where is that same kind of commitment went it comes to other conflicts, for example, the war in yemen, where multiple atrocities have been documented by both sides, but many of those have been documented by saudi arabia. wouldn't we have more credibility if we condemned actions by our friends, not just our enemies. >> the united states has worked tirelessly to document cases of abuse all across the world. there's a number of situations in the international criminal court that we have been very supportive of, including by conveying fugitives, for

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