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Edward snowden. if you agree with the fact edward snowden should be penalized, then you cant lay claim to the nsa doing all these additional -- >> what else has he not told us. >> i agree he broke the law. i agree also it may have caused something good. thats a classic elementary school hypothetical. somebody breaks the law and good comes out of it. guess what, they are technically guilty but good may have come out of it. >> spy panel, we learned a lot. thank you for coming in. at least presid...