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Cannot plea ignorance here. he cant say that i believe this entire time that i won this election and that when he was calling brad raffensperger in georgia telling him to find votes, you have now a very established timeline of evidence of people, of credible people, security in these cases, telling the president that these were free and fair and secure elections. >> and theres even more than that. my colleague and -- reported that audiotape that you might recall, steve bannon before the election...

Inference that he lost this election. >> that point, david, donald trump can plead ignorance there. you can say i believe this entire time that i won this election and when he was calling brad raffensperger in georgia telling him to find votes you have now a very established timeline of evidence of people, of credible people, security heads in these cases, telling the president that these were free and fair and secure elections. >> and theres even more than that. my colleague at mother jones, da...

And that is certainly the case if these allegations are true in the way that he handled that document, showed it to or talked about it to the folks in that room. so, i think its still problematic for him. >> it also has another advantage for prosecutors to bring it. even if its weak on the retention aspect, its what we call charging the bad conduct. before this audio tape, which is so damning for trump, there could have been a fight over whether it gets in or not. but by charging the document he...

What was your reaction with prosecutors bringing a superseding am vitamin, specifically bringing this extra charge concerningly around document? >> i think its very important because of the gravity of this. as you pointed out, we had this one audiotape of when donald trump showed this and flaunted it around individuals who had no right to see it. we have no idea of how many other times you might have done the same thing, including to foreign visitors that were visiting mar-a-lago. obviously this...

In your lap, another entire addition to that case? >> look, i tend to think that that document, that 30-second document, is a real problem for the defense team. and i think its a real problem because in that meeting, there were discussions going on about that document. and theyre able to now go to witnesses and say, was that document present in that meeting? and whether the president claims it was classified or declassified or whatever it is, thats all going to get sorted out. but the bottom lin...

For him. >> it also has another advantage for prosecutors to bring it. even if it is a deep and weak on the retention aspect, it is what we are charging the combat. before this audiotape, there could add a fight. by charging the documents that he is allegedly waving around, it is much easier to get in audiotape. jurors like audiotape spare >> jersey like audiotapes. it is good evidence. thank you all for being here tonight. we are watching to see trump as he is speaking on that stage in that roo...

Saying. >> absolutely. that would make the entire staff quite nervous to this point. i think it is really interesting to see at this point with him being added as a co-defendant here, a lot of people are wondering if that will increase the pressure on him to plead guilty or cut a deal. i really dont think so. it is too late in the day for that. the time they wouldve done that is way earlier. they are committed to this course, that is not happening. >> i think that is interesting. the other thing...

Now, it goes to things weve seen about the leading the server, information thats had the cctv covered. so, this isnt just one obstructive act. we now have a very broad, multi faceted obstruction pattern, which frankly, weve seen for a long, long time. that was the entire second volume of the mueller report. now, the second big thing in the superseding indictment is the government added one mishandling counts, and is notably the document allegedly that he showed to people up at bedminster. and wh...

Allegedly showed off a classified document about possible attack plans for iran to people who were doing interviews for his former chief of staff mark meadows upcoming memoir. that conversation, you will remember, was captured on a audiotape that was late last month. >> well, with milley, let me see that. ill show you as an example. he said that i want to attack iran. isnt it amazing? i have a big pile of papers. this thing just came up. look! this was him. they presented me this. this is off th...

Because his campaign strategy and legal defense are so intertwined. but theres another benefit from an evidence standpoint, its very helpful to them, these initial charges. great jury appeal. they have the actual document now that he was waving around to match up with the audiotape. and it allows them to more easily get that audiotape into evidence because its part of the actual act being charged. that plus the consciousness of guilt with trying to get the servers deleted, that all add up to a l...