live from denver tuesday, october 7th. no promises on the raps though. that's it for "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid from lake charles. greta goes "on the record" right now. we'll see new washington tomorrow. this is a fox news alert. isis a threatening attacks on subways an trains right here in the united states. the iraq prime minister tipping us off warning the terror threat might be imminent the most terrifying part of this warning is the attack has not been stopped. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins us. >> what's scary about this story is the details provided by the iraqi prime minister are extremely specific. he said he got information from baghdad that individuals had been arrested. they were members of isis. there was a plot to attack the subway systems in paris and also the united states. and that the operatives who are not iraqis, they were american and french nationals. once this hit the wires, what you saw here in
washington was a pretty rapid response this information had not been passed to the u.s. government formal channels and they were unaware of this information. >> has everyone been arrested in this little group that had no idea? >> the iraqi prime minister, again, this is what has my attention is the the specificity. when people speak very generally, there is not always a lot of truth to it. but he is talking with a number of specifics. he says we have arrested individuals but they are part of a network. so we don't believe that the threat or the plot has been completely thwarted. >> why doesn't the united states know about this? sort of a. >> there are a couple -- sorry to just jump. in there are a couple of explanations. one that it's just bogus information, okay? it's bogus information -- >> -- and we're vulnerable to that right now. >> well, it's bogus information and because of that it was not passed through these proper or traditional government channels. number two is that there could have been what i would
call sort of a ships passing in the night situation is which is the iraqi prime minister gets the information from baghdad. is he is at the u.n. he is surrounded by reporters. and there is not really a filter. he releases the information, and it hasn't had a chance to get into the government channels. but the bottom line is that episode underscores the fact that everyone understands isis, their ambition is to hit the united states, if they can and do it domestically. >> catherine, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> so, why haven't u.s. officials confirmed the isis terror plot to take place on u.s. soil? and what does iraqi intel know he that we don't? representative peter king is on the homeland security committee, he joins us. good evening, sir. >> hi, greta, how are you? >> very well. prior to today's announcement from the iraqi prime minister, had you heard anything about a plot to hit new york or paris subways? >> no, i didn't. and from talking to everyone that i know in the intelligence and law
enforcement community today, it seems to be no evidence to substantiate what the prime minister has said. and i mean, there is nothing coming from iraqi intelligence, as far as i know, the fbi, homeland security, nypd, now this would have involved a subway attack in new york, remember, we have 140 government leaders in new york this week, including every major world leader has been here. and so obviously you would have thought that somebody would have contacted the nypd and baghdad would have made this known. right now it appears it's misinformation. obviously it's going to be examined and you can be sure that our people are in very close contact with the intelligence agencies in baghdad. >> i guess i would love to believe that and then i sort of think is this bogus? but then i think look our intelligence people didn't catch 9/11. they didn't catch the terror plot in times square until that happened. the underwear bomber, he was allowed to bomb a plane with buying a oneway ticket without any baggage. it's like on the one hand i
don't want to be an alarmist, on the other hand, there is some really bad things that have slipped through the cracks with our intelligence service. >> oh, no, that can always happen. you don't know what you don't know. but, in this case if there were more to it, you would think that baghdad intelligence would have immediately told our intelligence agencies and they have their own prime minister in new york the city that could have been attacked. you would have thought again what should have happened is and in fact happens the 8999 out of 1,000 times. when a nation finds something like this or thinks they find something, even if it's a tip or hint, they elm my i can't tellly pass it immediately pass it on to the intelligence communities affected. what i can find out the cia, fbi, homeland security nobody was notified by baghdad of anything. in fact, their prime minister was in the city at a time when they felt, according to him that there could be an attack on new york. it doesn't add up. but, again, everything has to be checked out. >> all right. well i guess it would make a big difference to me i sort of guess as to whether this is real or not.
frankly we are in a position where we have to guess, regrettably. does the u.s. get like a bunch of these scary alerts like five a day so that this is just one of many or is this unusual so that maybe, you know, give it more attention? >> no. we get quite a few. you get people who come to embassies around the world. some have been reliable in the past. some haven't. they will come in and say they think there is going to be an attack in such and such location. that happened several years ago before 9/11, the 10th anniversary of 9/11 we got information there was going to be attack on ground zero of 9/11 itself. it was all person alert in new york for those two days before and the day itself. and as it turned out it was either bogus or the plot was called back. but, again, we can't take anything for granted. every hint, every tip is tracked down. and in addition to that though.
comes too late. certainly the christmas day bombing. the times square bombing. we should have certainly with the christmas day bombing we he should have known more. but, again, all annualized and is looked at and also for the prime minister to -- the last thing he should have done is mentioned it publicly before he had told the american government. you would think something as serious as this he wouldn't mention to a bunch of reporters on a street corner. >> that is curious indeed. thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> very unnerving subway plot in the u.s. what could be done to prevent these attacks? next agent terrorism task force jonathan guilliams. thank you, sir. >> good to be here. >> says this is a specific attack on a subway in new york and paris. how do we find out whether this is the real deal and what do we do? >> well, contrary to what a lot of people would think actually have a specific threat will help the
investigation because it gives us specific sources that we he can query. it let's us look at specific groups that the threat may be coming from. so, basically what you will see now is ramp up the sources that data base checks and we'll see overall the joint terrorism task force, the dod intel groups will see if they can find any chatter or sources that they may know about this. at the same time see state and local law enforcement really amp up if they need to their security at those specific sites. >> what i find troubling right now is i think we are particularly vulnerable to panic. we just had two americans beheaded. a tourist has been beheaded. an aide worker has been beheaded. there has been a woman in iraq. human rights activist who was just tortured and killed. we are pretty vulnerable and dropping bombs in syriaened a iraq. who do we know? i mean, how does law enforcement, you new york, i can'te you get lots of
chase everything down every second. what do we do? >> let's look at it in a way everybody can understand. bank robberies happen all the time in the united states. but you're not -- you don't see people panicked and running out of a bank because of fear. you have to be smart. you have to know that these things can happen. it's a gambling game. you know, the terrorists, they have the odds in their favor because no matter what defense we set up, they have the ability to wait, look at it, and go around it you know, it's similar to a bank, you have to it be aware when you go in there there is always potential but you have to go there. if you have to go to work and take the subway. beaware. i'm sorry, go ahead, greta. >> you can be on a subway and 30 feet underground and between two stops and all of a sudden you think the person next to you has a package of c 4 plastic. you are really out of luck at that point. >> however say you are not out of luck like in spain when the bombs went off. you had individuals getting off. this is on video, they are riding the escalator.
turn around and look. i hear a bomb go off i'm running, unfortunately those people the next bomb went off and killed them. >> and, of course, it's not the old days where you need a big fighter plane or bomber who drop a bomb on something. one person can do an awful lot of damage. >> one person seeing it and notifying somebody be can always make or break that know it, nothing can beat an aware human at beating a terrorist attack. >> we all feel deposit pew advertised by 9/11 to speak up or i hope so if we see something peculiar. thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> british counter terrorism officials announcing the arrest of nine suspects in ongoing investigation. grn reporter chris walker joins us right now. chris, what happened in the uk? >> well, an early whoop, 18 houses. one of our leading muslim
fanatical preachers arrested. and strangely, in comparison with you, i mean, we have got the arrest but we haven't got the targets. nobody has been suggesting there is an immediate attack threatened on the london underground, though that has happened before. but these people have been absolutely outspoken in support of isis. really saying the most terrible things in public about how they are not going to defend our hostages still alive and how muslims should kill christians and such like this has been cleaning up operation. i think it's probably not circumstantial that's it's happened along with what's threatened in paris and washington there is bound to
be blow back. next 48 hours it looks like. i suspect we will be getting our threats too. >> chris, we only have 30 seconds left. i'm curious why does the uk seem to be such a breeding ground for a lot of these terrorists? >> very good question. the answer is i think we have got very little control over the mosques. there is the language, of course. and in fact, we have got huge numbers of them who live here. and seem to be very, very unrestricted in their movements. there is a growing feeling about this. how is this happening? we have heard three killed by us air strikes in iraq and syria this week. that's three brits. that's a huge percentage. chris thank you. breaking now, barbaric masked man speaking english with british accent and
blaming the united states and england in the video showing beheadings of a two americans and. they will not reveal the executioner's name. the u.s. and allies still pounding isis, launching at least 200 air strikes targeting isis in syria and iraq. the troubling question, is this enough? >> baghdad is still relatively secure. i mean, there has been a couple of minor ied attacks inside baghdad, but the isf, the iraqi security forces in and around the capitol are still defending the capitol. it's not like isil has not posed a threat there. >> oliver north good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> i'm concerned with us and isis and whether it is spreading. >> i think catherine's comment about how we came to know this threat about washington -- new york and
paris transportation infrastructure is always going to be a prime target visuals are compelling. they are savvy knowing how to use that to their advantage. if you are riding in beltway. silver lining goes out. goes over the beltway and if you think about somebody getting something like two brothers, assembled in boston before a marathon and carried that on to a subway leaving town. you would have a visual that would be very, very effective as a recruiting tool for the most radical jihadists on this planet. here is the problem with what we are doing. we are giving them a safe haven of 15 to 16 hours a day because we're only bombing at night. now, the idea, of course, is to take out targets of opportunity. what we really need to have is 24/7 coverage up over top of syria. if we are going disrupt and
disable and eventually destroy isis, you can't just do it with nighttime strikes. >> then why aren't we doing 24. >> i'm hoping somebody will ask admiral cure buy that because he is after all an admiral. why we don't have a second strike group out in the mediterranean and the persian gulf. you cannot maintain a sustained air operation. the talk missiles being launched on the screen. you can't do it without more ships. >> we're also told you can't do it without boots on the ground. i'm not advocating that if you are saying we don't have a 24/7 air power and even if we did that wouldn't do the job? >> no. ultimately, someone, rough men with rifles have to go to take terrain, capture bad guys and free hostages. cannot do it with airplane. unfortunately, we have got a mystical belief in the power of aircraft dropping bombs precision guided munitions. i mean, look at those visuals that we are getting out of the pentagon. i mean, goes right down and
takes out the antenna. building kind of stuff. the bottom line of it is if we are going to take the fight to disrupt them before we destroy them, somehow with 5,000 people trained in 10 to 12 months in saudi arabia. will now have to go back into the fight against not only isis but also against al assad. i don't see how this works. i mean, i had it described to me yesterday by a former marine general as there is not a snow ball's chance in hell of this succeeding the way it's being fought. >> that's encouraging, i say very sarcastically. >> sorry. >> thank you. nice to he see you. >> and developing now, those barbaric islamic exextreme i.s, strike again. not a journalist, an aide worker or a tourists. isis in mosul, iraq, kidnapping, tortures and publicly executing a female iraqi human rights lawyer. her name is samira. executed the wife and mother
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numbers from tanking further? >> well, first of all, forget the numbers. stop looking at them. the president. >> maybe he isn't looking at them. that was just, you know, my. >> yeah. well, if he is, and i'm confident he is this president polls too much. pays too much attention to the polls. stop looking. is he a war time leader. whether he likes it or not. his numbers are bad because, and they are not recently bad, the last time his favorability outnourished unfankt was essentially 53 weeks ago. and the president has been upside down since then. when putin moved in to crimea and then began messing with ukraine. when isis spread across northwestern iraq. president obama began to have real deep problems with how people viewed his ability to handle foreign affairs, terrorism and whether or not he was a strong leader. so, excuse me. his problem is that people
are looking at his policies and saying they don't work and he is not a strong leader. work on getting the right policy and be a strong, effective leader and the poll also take care of them. it's been a long time coming it will be a long time getting out. tell me if i'm right or wrong on this. when there is a foreign policy crisis, the party in power does a little bit better. i mean, that's a terrible thing to say. a crisis and foreign policy and americans sort of rally behind the leader. >> yeah, there is temporarily and i suspect the president is going to see a little bit of upward movement at some point but probably not a lot and maybe not at all for the following reasons. people don't think that he is a strong leader. he has got this great irony that about 60% of the people support bombing syria. 70% of the people support bombing isis in iraq. 60 o% think the president is not stroong leader and 38% approval rating on handling foreign affairs and a 41% approval rating on handling terrorism. there is a gap between they
sort of like the policy but they are not certain it's going to succeed. but they think he is weak and feckless and not a strong leader and those things are going to take a long time to change because they have been basically six years in the making. >> what is your thought on attorney general eric holder announcing that he will be resigning as soon as the president finds a replacement? >> i think it's good for the country, good for the justice department. attorney general holder has been a partisan hack. he has not been the independent attorney general that we are -- or somewhat independent attorney general that we expect. from the moment that he came into the office, until the moment he finally departs. he has done very little except things that advocate -- advance the political agenda of the administration. and pit american against american. i cannot believe that one the first things he did when he came into office was to dismiss the lawsuit against the black panther party which was caught on video brandishing clubs and threatening voters outside
of philadelphia voter places and one of the first things he did was dismiss the lawsuit against them for interfering with an election. that set the tone it and we have only seen it continued for the last six years. you know, thank you for your service, mr. attorney general but frankly good riddance. >> karl, thank you for joining us. >> you bet. thank you. >> and as noted, attorney general eric holder stepping down from his post and al sharpton saying on his web site that he, al sharpton has engaged in media conversations with the white house on deliberation over holder's replacement. really? al sharpton advising the white house on the next attorney general? that's coming up. but next ambassador john bolton right here "on the record." your pocket right now? i have $40, $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge
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who work with portfolio management experts that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. here is the quiz view what is delusional iranphobia. speaking at the u.n. saying we worked to putting an end to the delusional iran-o-phobia. i know you love this. you are a smart guy. what is that? >> he thinks people are suffering from iran-o-owe phobia since building nuclear weapons. i thought his strategy today was quite remarkable. aimed at what he sees as the weakness in the white house. because he said at the same time he was eager to do a
deal over iran's nuclear program that they would never give up uranium enrichment and that he wanted more concessions on the pressure having been put on iran over sanctions and other restrictions. so, i think he sees that the white house is so desperate for a deal on the nuclear front that they will make these other concessions. i very much fear he is right. i listened to the speech and read the transcript mr. nice guy and iran nice place and how everybody else is so violent and awful and, of course, meanwhile they have got a christian pastor, an american sitting in prison because he won't convert to islam. it was such a contrast reality all his right rhetoric play to domestic audience. europe and the united states. much of his comment outside of the nuclear program was blaming outsiders westerners
and u.s. in particular for being part of the cause for islamic extremism. he said basically it dealing with isis was not something that outsiders could do. and that indeed it was our actions initially that had given rise to isis. so i think it was a very well done propaganda job. >> well with, israel paid a lot of attention to this phrase. and the whole world would be. we are committed to continuing our peaceful nuclear program including enrichment and enjoy our full iranian rights and soil within the framework of international law. there is no way in hell that they have any intention of banning their program working on a deal with us. >> they haven't had intention of doing that for 30 years. obama administration, i have to say last couple years of the bush administration in their efforts to cut a deal with iran over the nuclear program have have been pursuing a fool's errand. it's given iran both time to overcome the difficult technological obstacles between them and deliverable
nuclear weapons and given iran legitimacy. what rouhani was really searching for today was additional paths to legitimacy. we have seen british prime minister, david cammeron meeting with rouhani in new york. a big mistake. we have seen the secretary of state john kerry desperately looking for some way to bring them into the anti-isis fight and we have seen the president as over the past couple of years looking for that photo opportunity he could have have with rouhani. i think he knows his mark and he is playing it. >> i'm anxious to hear what prime minister netanyahu has to say when it's his turn it. anyway, ambassador, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> from fast and furious to ferguson to accusing the president's critics of racial animus. attorney general eric holder is no stranger to controversy. well, you now he is stepping down after a rocky tenure as america's top law enforcement official. >> we will make the department of justice into what it was and into what it always must be.
eric holder sworn in as attorney general and making promise six years ago. >> the nation is potentially at hand. >> days after taking office holder shocked the country. >> in things racial we have always been and we, i believe continue to be in too many ways essentially a nation of cowards. >> it doesn't stop there. may, 2009, holder drops charges against three black panthers accused of intimidating voters on election day. november of 2009. holder announces plans to try khalid sheikh mohammed the mastermind of the 9/11 terror attacks and co-spirits in new york city. >> they will be brought to new york, to new york to answer for their alleged crimes in a courthouse just blocks away from where the twin towers once stood. >> july 2010, holder's justice department sues arizona over its immigration law, the goal: to stop police from checking immigration status at traffic stops. and who could forget this? june 2012. the house of representatives holding the attorney general
in contempt amid the fast and furious gun running scandal. >> we're only asking the attorney general to turn over documents directly related to false statements made to ghong a coverup. >> accusations that attorney general holder brushed aside. >> truly absurd. truly absurd conspiracy theories. >> may 2013, the justice department caught with phone records from the associated press and days later, fox news james rosen named as a co-conspirator in a leak investigation and just weeks ago, the attorney general calling himself an activist saying is he proud of it and then, sparking outrage one more time with these remarks about his critics. >> there is a certain racial component to this for some people. i don't think this is the thing -- a main driver but for some there is a racial anus. >> and now reverend al sharpton claiming is he advising the white house on the a.g. holder's replacement. is there any truth to that joining us weekly panel john
mccormick and "the washington post" jackie kucinich and byron york. that's what he he puts first, byron, on his web site today national action network he was engaged in conversations with the white house about the successor. then he backed down. >> hope that's not true. >> i think a lot of people probably hope that's not true. >> i think that is the case that eric holder who is an historic attorney general, first black attorney general will go down as the civil rights attorney general from. >> over bobby kennedy? >> yes, i think so. from the very beginning. >> i don't think so. a picture of him hung in his office. >> from the very beginning with the nation of cowards remark. all the way to ferguson at the end. this has been something that the attorney general focused on the civil rights division. some of his most memorable actions were in that area. including not enforcing the law. remember, he chose not to enforce the defense of marriage act. he took arizona as you
mentioned in the piece to court to stop the enforcement of the immigration law. so he was somebody with an an agenda and when that involved not forcing the law he didn't do it? >> i don't think he will go down in history as the civil rights attorney general. i think that goes to bobby kennedy. i debelabor that which the justice department is named after. your thought on holder. >> one of the things you mentioned bobby kennedy he called ethel kennedy bobby kennedy's widow to tell her he was stepping down that was one of the people. obviously he was very much following bobby kennedy's legacy and i think among certain people i agree with byron go with sentencing reform what did he to calm down ferguson, missouri when he went there. of course, there is the other side of this. a lot of the things you mentioned. >> what about, john, is al sharpton, could he truly be involved in part of this discussion of who the next attorney general is? >> i have no idea.
but the big -- >> -- he thinks he is apparently. >> the big criticism of eric holder is that he was one of the most politicized and partisan attorney generals in history. there are a lot of scandals out there and controversies. i think the very worst from a legal standpoint was his decision not to vigorously defend the defense of marriage act which was a law signed into law by the president. the job of the attorney general isn't to be a judge. it's to be the advocate. he failed at that in 2009. the defense didn't really give a vigorous defense and again in 2011. independent at all. as attorney general you are not supposed to defend the laws that you like or the laws that your donors like. you are supposed to defend the law. he didn't do that that's a terrible precedent going forward. >> we should throw the irs in there too. just last week lois lerner gave a long interview to politico. i believe she would not have felt comfortable doing that had she not been pretty sure that the justice department was not really on her tail. and the justice department ended that investigation
apparently gone absolutely nowhere even as congress has found out all sorts of damaging revelations about it. >> all right. well already we got a statement from the attorney general the state of california she says she is honored to even be mentioned. apparently her name was out there. basically she says she wants to stay in california. i don't know why we got a statement from her. i'm going to issue my statement next. anyway, thank you all. >> let's all go off-the-record for main. this is really messed up. i had no idea about this until yesterday, that the white house, not the press, but the white house distributes the white house print pool reports. here is how it works. each day, the print pool reporters follow the president around and write reports to the entire media before the entire media gets those reports, the white house reviews them and it is the white house that sends the reports out to everyone in the media now, i had no idea. i thought the pool sent the pool reports directly to everyone in the media but why is the white house seeing or reviewing the
reports first? that's a little bit like sending the fox out to guard the chicken coop. i learned even more. on occasion, it could be rare, the white house doesn't like some of the condition tent in the pool reports. the white house pressures the print pool to change them. and in some instances, the pool has. that's really bad. that is so messed up. so much for freedom of the press, right? and besides the review, why is the white house in the business of distributing pool reports? it can't be costs? media organizations are so rich they can pay for it themselves. it sure can't be white house technical know how. remember healthcare.gov? i don't know but. i think this is really messed up we wonder why no one trusts the media? that's my off-the-record comment tonight. and an american pastor beaten and in prison in iran just for being a christian. locked away for 700 days now. the pastor's wife and reverend franklin graham are here now with a plan to get him out. this is holly.
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an american pastor sitting in prison in iran just because is he a christian. tomorrow marks two years since the iranians grabbed him and locked him up. now reverend franklin graham is joining the pastor's wife in leading a prayer in front of the white house. they are calling for the american christian pastor's release and urging president obama it to help free him. reverend franklin graham and reverend abedino joins us now. have you had any contact with your husband at all in prison, lately. >> his family gets to visit him every wednesday and last i heard his mom got to visit him. >> his condition is what? >> he couldn't sit through the whole 20 minute visitation, which is rare. last time they saw him last week and he had to walk out halfway, about 10 minutes into it because of internal pain he h he still has some kind of wound or you ulcer that keeps opening up and injuries that have happened mainly because ever first few months of beatings because the first few months of interrogation that he was
told if he denies christ, and returns to islam, he would be he freed. >> reverend franklin graham, he is just a christian. i mean, that's the whole reason he is sitting in prison for years. what do you want to do? what do you hope to accomplish? >> he is in prison because he believes that jesus christ is god's son and that jesus died for our sins upon the cross and was buried for our sins and that god raised him to life and because he believes this, he has been beaten, he has been tortured, imprisoned for two years. and he is an american citizen. he is born in iran but he is an american. and they are torturing him and beating him and trying to get him to recant his faith in christ. and i'm wanting to help, greta, to draw attention to this. i'm so grateful that you have allowed us to come on your program today to talk about it. >> yesterday, president obama was before the u.n. general assembly and he had praise for, i guess, what he would call moderate muslims.
and he -- then he spoke about extremism as well. what's your thought about whether or not president obama can help in a situation, whether he is helping? >> no question he can help. he is the president of the united states. and he does have great power and great influence. right now, america is trying to get iranian support for their fight against isis. we need, bto talk to the iranians about support for isis. we need to say hey, we want all the americans to come home. sid abedino is one of several being held there the president can do it and we just, i think, the white house responds to pressure. if there is enough people who pick up the phone and call, if enough constituents pick up the phone and call, send emails, it will get the attention of the white house. otherwise, they don't seem to be bother him. >> it's been two years though. tomorrow marks the two year date when her husband was picked up by the iranians. >> again, greta, it's for his faith.
no other reason. the president has said that islam was a religion of peace. he said that yesterday in his statement before the general assembly. if it truly is a religion of peace, then why are they holding a man and beating him and torturing him because of his faith in jesus christ? if islam really is a religion of peace i call on the iranian president to let him come home to his wife, to his children and quit torturing him. quit beating him and traying to get him to renounce his lord and savior, jesus christ. >> and you nod your head yes. >> i agree. it's been two years. to some it's been over 700 days for a family seeing my kids cry every night. reverend graham has been a father figure for the kids and i, a great support. i can't say enough of his support. but it's time to get him home. two years a long enough. we are talking to the iranians. they are condemning isis for
beheading christians but they are holding someone, an american citizen in their prison simply for being christian. it's time to bring him home. >> well, reverend graham, good luck and i hope that, you know, two years is way too long. two years is too long but right now it's like i don't, you know, i wish we could do something more for him. >> thank you, greta. >> thank you. >> and tonight, major developments in the case of missing uva opportunity hannah graham. our team son the ground. a live update is next. introducig
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here, 32 years old. came through the local public schools. working locally at the university of virginia hospital as a patient technician in the operating room. a football player in high school and then beyond. involved in the sport and playing for a local adult league, a semiprofessional team. also was a volunteer coach for a private christian school nearby. so, that is something that we have learned about him. well known by a lot of people. i have been speaking with some friends who are describing him as, you know, a nice guy. somebody that they have spent a lot of time with over the years. >> he was involved with a high school football team? >> he was involved, right, with the covenant high school team. it's a christian private school. has a pretty good football team. a number of people on the coaching staff. my understanding is he was a volunteer assistant coach. >> what do you want to have answered the most. >> the biggest thing everybody wants to know is where is hannah graham. of course we all would do anything to make this case come to a happy ending and
find her and have some miracle, you know, happen where she is okay and family gets her back and university and friends get her back. that is obviously what we would all like. a resolution to what happened regardless i think is also important so that people can move forward. >> but the horrible question remains where is hannah? "on the record" ted williams is live with the latest in charlottesville. what is the latest in the search for hannah graham? as you know they all have jesse matthews found 1300 miles away from here. he has waived extradition. on his way back here.
maybe will help out in this investigation. of course us a you know, greta, he has already lawyered up. >> ted, the chief of police mentioned in news in the car indicate whether she was in the car or whether she might have been hurt in the car? >> no. greta, that was asked of the chief of police and tim longo, who is a superb chief of police is keeping a lot of information rightfully so close to his vest. but he is doing all he can to put out information. there is now a$100,000 reward for anyone who can help bring hannah home. >> and in terms of the search still searching the whole area or abandoned search? >> absolutely not. they are searching everywhere they can. buildings, streams, water ways. is he asked the various farmers to walk their land and see if, in fact, they can find hannah graham or if
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he'll always be remembered for how he took the fight against racial injustice into his own hands, with a handshake. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. fear factor. let's play "hardball." ♪ ♪ >> good evening, i'm chris matthews up in new york. people only truly believe what they discover for themselves. they believe what they see, what becomes obvious to them. right now, it's obvious that ebola is not being kept from this country. it's here despite the promises we keep getting. how did that man get onto the plane? and why was he sent away from the hospital in dallas when he said he was here from west africa, where wree know there's an emdemmic of ebola.
he walked in carrying some of the symptoms. who and what are we to believe right now? the claim that there was a solid screening system in place at the airport in monrovia. that statement by president obama. airport officials now say that the texas ebola patient lied about his exposure, so he could get into the u.s. what good is a screening system, if it's so easily evaded? health officials are trying to find up to 100 people who may have been exposed to the virus while he was contagious. the cdc and texas health department are mobilizing war rooms in the dallas area. he walked into a dallas hospital with symptoms a week ago and was sent home. even after he told them he'd come from the ebola hot zone in west africa. for three days he roamed free in the dallas area.
his nephew called the cdc himself as duncan got worse. what assurances do we have that others won't get in and that the right things will be done when they do? people don't like hearing these questions. i promise you, there will be a lot more if the assurances we keep getting don't match the realities we're facing. we're joined now on the phone from monrovia, dr. nancy snyderman, thank you for joining us. how did this guy get here when we were told by our president it would be unlikely that anybody would come here from the ebola area in west africa? >> i think doctors have been saying for quite some time that they expected a case of ebola to pop up in the united states. and that's because our world is smaller than ever. you can get anywhere within 12 hours on a plane. interestingly, we know how this man was exposed.
we tracked his path today in monrovia. he was exposed to the virus about four days before he left the country. unfortunately, it can take eight to ten days for symptoms to show. temperature, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. so when he left monrovia, liberia, his temperature was taken by the authorities, and it was normal, or he would not have been allowed to leave the country. so when he arrived in the united states, he probably still didn't have a fever. the real error was made when he first went to the texas emergency room with symptoms, high fever, and a history of coming from west africa, and he was inappropriately given antibiotics and sent home. a travel history is as important as any other part of the history in a physical today. and anyone coming through or from west africa, has to be asked the question, how do you
feel? >> did he get a questionnaire in the liberian airport, was he asked whether he had been in an area where he could have been exposed to ebola? sources there say he lied and said he wasn't anywhere near a victim he could have picked it up from. >> well, this is a real loophole that we've been trying to track all day. we know that he was in contact with a pregnant woman who died of ebola before his departure. i can tell you that all over monrovia, there are bill boards, messages blasting from television and radio, everyone here is hyperalert and hyperaware about ebola. so, i don't know what this man knew. we do know that he came in contact with a young woman who died before his departure from this country. and it's hard to imagine that he didn't know that he was in
proximity with someone that was ill. because we tracked the taxi he was in, the exposure that he was exposed to, and several of the people he was exposed to have now died. >> do we know that he came here to get treatment, that he knew he was exposed? we've heard stories of family members raising money for him to get here. >> i honestly don't have a clue, chris. we do know he applied for a visa on september 2nd, and quit his job and saved up money -- >> i see, so he had planned to come here. that answers the question. he planned to come here before he was exposed. so that wasn't his motive, necessarily. thank you, dr. nancy snyderman. >> any time, chris. this opens up a problem with trust and authority in this country. right now it's getting dicey. a democrat from california and nurse practitioner herself.
and the lieutenant governor of maryland. congresswoman, let me ask you about this thing here. the president, i don't know why he said it, that it was unlikely, two weeks ago that we'd had an aids person -- an ebola person coming here from west africa. who told him it was safe to say unlikely? it's not great to be knocked down in your claims by reality. it's not a good thing. >> i certainly don't know who told him. but what i do think he might have been trying to do was to just reassure the u.s. population that we don't have to worry about a massive outbreak. looking back at it, maybe he shouldn't have said that, but i do think that was probably the motivation. because there's so much information that the u.s. public needs to know and understand about this disease. >> why would he warn us about something, though? tell me the obvious. i don't know what it is. why would we be afraid of people being afraid of ebola? isn't that a smart thing, to be
afraid of ebola, the way it's handled through the airport and our transportation system? >> i think part of that is correct. but if i remember correctly, he responded that way after the two doctors came to the united states, the ones that were infected and we brought back here, and he was assuring people. but i do think that it's important that people be aware. i also think it's really important that people not be so paranoid to the point where, you know, people really don't understand what's going on. you know, we are dealing with our own epidemic here, the enterovirus, over 500 cases in 42 states. so we have additional concerns we need to be worried about. also four deaths from that virus in young children. >> i'm a huge opponent of rolling disclosure. i think it's vital that politicians be the first, like in the "godfather." my lawyer always insists on getting bad news fast.
>> that's right. >> he wants the bad news and i'm sure the congresswoman agrees. you want the staffer to race into the office and not sit on it for three days. here we have a couple of situations. the jv team in iraq and syria that's becoming a global threat supposedly. so is isis a jv team, what is it? i'm just wondering about this effort to try to down play concerns at the expense of being a truth-teller. it is a problem. >> i would agree with that. it is a problem to the extent that the administration, particularly the president is getting advice from individuals who aren't telling him the whole story, or laying out some of the ramifications. and all you have to do is look at the most recent episode with the secret service. you know, you have the director briefing the president, but fails to tell him, oh, by the way, you were in an elevator with someone who had a gun. >> that's a relevant fact, i think. >> it's a relevant fact. and i think the congressman would really appreciate, please,
give us the relevant facts so that we, in turn, in answering calls from our constituents, what the relevant facts are. >> here's an example of a guy. president obama is pushing the economy today, gave a mention to ebola in the context of american leadership. let's take a listen. >> when alarms go off somewhere in the world, whether it's a disaster that is natural or man-made, when there's an idea or invention that can make a difference, this is where things start. this who the world calls -- america. they don't call moscow, they don't call beijing. they call us. and we welcome that responsibility of leadership, because that's who we are. that's what we expect of ourselves. >> and with that responsibility comes responsibility. here i want to show you how you
do share information. right after 9/11, there was an anthrax scare in new york. and giuliani shared information as he got it. this is just a short clip from one of his press conferences. >> there was a skin test, a biopsy that was done. that came back positive early this morning. cdc notified us early this morning. so the test of the powder was negative to anthrax. the skin test was positive to anthrax. but since, if it is the powder, it goes back to september 25, and you don't have any additional numbers of people reporting symptoms. the chances that this is contained, according to the cdc and we just finished a long conference call with them, the chance this is contained are very good. >> that's what i like, a very calm disposition of how things stand and how you know it. and telling the public everything you know as you know it. that's better than saying be
calm, and don't worry, and it's unlikely. that doesn't work. people are smart, watching the tv, going online. what did he say exactly? okay, now i can work with that. i can't do something with general advice to be calm. but i can be calm when i see the mayor of my city going through the information as he gets it. >> absolutely. i agree with both of you. i want to hear the bad news first too. cut to the chase, let me know what's going on. but in addition to that, giving education, so, providing education to people about what this disease is, what the symptoms are, what you should look for, i think is very important as well. michael, do you have any assurance we won't get a couple more guys jumping on the plane in monrovia? in two to 21 days incubation period. if the person is not sweating like mad or convulsing, they say he's clean.
but it takes 21 days to show the symptoms. it's not working. >> i agree with that. i think it's something that everybody should be concerned about, who are at those entry points and make sure there are the appropriate checks put in place. the other thing i think is important and the congresswoman touched on something that is important, the education. there are two parts to that. the first is that we the people are informed as to what this disease it, what the symptoms are, and we know how to deal with it. more importantly, as we saw with the hospital, that the information from cdc trickles down, so that in that emergency room, even if you have one of the list of symptoms, there's a sense of, we need to check this. but then when you're told, i just came from liberia or sierra leone, that raises it even further. so the education is important. >> congresswoman, i just want to say thank you. i love the fact that you're a nurse practitioner. that means in addition to your legislative success, you have
executive ability, which is a great thing. i look so much up to nurses, especially nurse practitioners, who do the doctor work. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and my friend michael steele. coming up, the embarrassments get even worse for nfl commissioner roger goodell. it's not just ray rice. documents today, 50 cases of domestic violence under goodell and found that players received lenient discipline in nearly all the situations. >> plus, darryl hannah will join us, the master of political impressions. he's making his return to "saturday night live" this season as its new announcer after the death of the great don pardo. and tonight's round table, we'll talk about the fear of ebola, hillary 2015 versus bill 1991. and a new report that the secret service leaked president obama's schedule to the mitt romney crowd. and let me finish tonight with
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wife in the stomach. he finished out the season and then retired. miami dolphins defensive end phillip merling was charged with felony battery on his pregnant girlfriend, continued playing the rest of the season. rocky bernard, he was in a nightclub, where he punched the mother of his child with a closed fist, striking her forehead, causing her forehead to hit a glass divider. his punishment from the league, suspension for a game, one year. about 14 domestic violence cases ended up with players being suspended. in all but one case, it was two games or less. 15 cases players were released or didn't re-sign. those cases involved players with marginal talent. so they were going to go anywhere. what does this say about nfl culture? brent, thanks for joining us.
when you did this report, i want to stick to the reporting, because i think it's news to a lot of people. these cases involve real violence, not shoving, but fists and injuries, and would normally call in the courts, assault and battery. yet, whether they're considered felonies outside of the league, in the terms of the league's own discipline, they're a game suspension, or two-game suspension. what do you make of that? >> a lot of them are misdemeanor battery cases. you could certainly say the nfl has been lenient on this issue going back to 2000. there's been 90 since the year 2000. what's changed is the outrage over the release of the video there was never the public outrage until people saw what it looked like on camera. the league handling it with a one or two-game suspension.
these cases are hard to prosecute in the court and by district attorneys. i think the nfl has tried to follow the lead of law enforcement authorities when they try to punish these players and it's not always easy. >> how do you get the evidence of what happened, when you can't make the case? will the spouse or the girlfriend not testify? is that the problem? >> yeah, that's generally the problem. in almost half the cases, the alleged victim doesn't want to cooperate with authorities. they don't want to jeopardize their family, their security. so -- >> why didn't the policeman who is following the case, because i know these cases are women being afraid of men, afraid they'll hit them again, or worse, kill them, so they're not going to go to court. but i thought the police officer is supposed to intervene and bring the charge himself, or herself. >> they are supposed to, but it can be difficult when the victim
does not want to cooperate. when the evidence is he said, she said, it's hard to prosecute. but sometimes there are physical injuries that the police officers make note of, of course. but usually, for first-time offenders in a lot of states, this is how these cases get resolved. they enter a diversion program where the offender has to complete some kind of anger counselling, domestic violence counselling, community service. in exchange for that, the charge is dropped. that's happened in quite a few nfl cases too. i think the league has looked at that as sort of, okay, the charge is getting dropped. it's a diversion program. let's suspend him a game or two depending on the evidence. >> i want you to respond to this. there are more cases of domestic violence. green bay packers line backer eric wald own was charged with felony battery against his girlfriend. the girlfriend later changed her story to say she started the fight. he was suspended for a game.
and another one, he said police threw his wife down the stairs and out of the house. the nfl suspended him for a game. cornell green, police say he slammed the mother of his children into a wall and hit her arm with a mop handle. he played in 12 games later that year. you see these guys meeting up with their spouses or girlfriends on the way out. did you see this kind of violent attitude towards women? >> no. i do not see this sort of violent attitude towards women. this isn't just a problem in the nfl. this is corporate america. >> it is? >> i think it's everywhere. right now it's just that the light is being shined on the nfl. the way the nfl works, they don't pay attention until there is public outcry. there's a sense around the nfl, this has been going on for years. it's just now getting attention.
these problems aren't just happening in the national football league. this isn't the only sport and place in america where we're seeing domestic abuse. in terms of the nfl paying attention to it now, it's because the public is finally paying attention, that the report was able to recite the different reports of players involved in domestic violence. nobody paid attention to it in the past, but now they are -- >> you guys are both speaking the same language here. i want to go back to brent here. first of all, we're not talking about a screaming match, not somebody throwing a dish, or a slapping match. we're talking about throwing a woman down the stairs, punching a pregnant woman in the stomach, decking a woman in an elevator. you're telling me this is american life. is this your argument, both of you, this is the world we live in? >> it's not american life for most people. >> but jocks, the highly paid athletes? give me the sub set of america
this reflects. i went to school with jocks. they got special meals and special everything. but the fact of the matter, in alabama, they're treated like kings. they can swagger around campus and be big shots physically and intimidate people. >> you can't just say this is in the sports world. you can't say that. >> what is it then? help me out. >> it is our society. but the thing that no one's paying attention to. the nfl is bringing attention to domestic abuse. but what are we doing with this now? for prevention? education? how are we fixing this problem, not just in the nfl, but across the country? because if you're going to say that these problems only exist in the nfl, then your eyes are shut. because these are happening in our towns, our communities, everywhere, all across the country. >> so let it go? >> no. no, don't let it go. use these football players, use the national football league as an example to teach, to prevent.
that's the only way we'll see change. >> i saw the full page in "usa today." you're saying it's not news, it's to be expected that jocks beat up their women? >> no, it's definitely news because the nfl has such a high place in american culture. huge viewership on television and the media, they've never been more popular than they are now. they make a lot of the money. when they get their name in the newspaper for scoring a touchdown, they'll get their name in the newspaper for getting arrested for domestic violence. >> what's the gm, they pick up the paper, see their guy involved in something like this, 2:00 in the morning at some nightclub? what do they say? they have a meeting and say, scratch him from next week's game. >> no, chris, what they'll do with that. they'll wait it out, see what happens legally. because for them it's a business. the nfl is a business. >> it's pr. >> it's not even pr. they need to get those players
on the field. they need to make that money. that's why the reason why roger goodell has had such a difficult time handling this. because his bosses, the owners of the nfl, are the ones he has to answer to. it's a billion-dollar industry and those players need to be on the field. >> i want to thank you both. the players who are the problem are going to love this. they're going to hear, we're just like everybody else. we swat somebody, that's what the other guys do. to is that what we to say to them? >> to the players involved? >> the offenders, the guys on the rap sheet. >> get help. fix the problem. there's eyes on you, a lot of young kids watching you, be better. >> great reporting, great work. up next, darryl hammond joins us. he's returned already now to "snl" as the show's announcer following the legendary don pardo. this is "hardball," a place for politics. ed the guys at composites horizons to map their manufacturing process with sticky notes
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back to "hardball." "saturday night live" kicked off its 40th season with a show that debuted darryl hammond, a veteran "snl" cast member as the new announcer. hammond appeared on the show for a record 14 seasons, takes the place of the late don pardo, whose voice over the years became synonymous with the show's iconic opening. i'm thrilled he's returned. how can i not thank him for doing me over the years. >> now, in order to book you, i had to agree to some ground rules, that i'm not crazy about. but as we say in the business, tough get, and you're great. >> again, chris, you're too kind. >> no-no, you're too kind. or as i mentioned already, you're also great. but this is "hardball" i've got to ask you some questions.
uh-oh. [ laughter ] here it comes. >> it's now my pleasure to say, from new york, it's darryl hammond! darryl, i love you. you're going to be a part of that cast now forever. you're going to be institutionalized with "saturday night live." >> thanks, chris, you're great. [ laughter ] >> let me get ready for this. you're going to do darryl hammond, but you'll be playing in the foot steps of the legendary don pardo. how much of him are you going to be? >> just enough to, you know, sort of tip your hat to him, because he's really not replaceable in any way. i'm not even an announcer. i wouldn't ever try to replace him. but the idea was that we would sort of tip our hat to him. i think we picked like five vowels. spend two weeks picking five
vowels and we're trying our best. >> you're picking up some sound from don pardo. >> you're picking up sound? >> no, you're picking up sound. you're going to replace some of the sound that he makes. >> well, yeah, you know, like, you can't just go -- you can't do him, and yet you can't not do him. so the idea was, do don pardo, but it's not don pardo. >> let's take a look at what you did, when i said to you, that you could capture the soul of bill clinton. here you are playing former president bill clinton and you just paid a visit to obama's bedroom in the white house. you're kind of a ghost of the past. let's watch. >> we heard you were tossing and turning over whether to push for federal regulations, so we're here to give you some advice. >> you two are the ones who stripped down the regulations. why would i want advice from you? >> dude, it was the '90s. people did all kinds of crazy
things. [ laughter ] >> crazy things. so it's hard for me to believe you're going to be there making the announcements and somewhere along the line when bill clinton comes back into action again, when he's really back in action, and his spouse of all these wonderful years is going to be president of the united states, will somebody say, we need bill, we need darryl hammond? >> you know, it's kind of a place where almost anything can happen and usually does. there's really -- i mean, you know, it's about the most unusual place in the world. it could happen, but we haven't discussed it yet. >> i love your dick cheney. you were walking around the set of the oval office and it was dick cheney with the snarl. you were into him before we saw you on tv. you captured cheney better than anybody. we had you on in 2012 as our expert at the democratic convention. when the next one rolls around in 2016, will you promise to
come back and help us? >> if you're taking me out for onion rings -- >> we're going to the weirdest most rural diner in the world like we did last time. darryl hammond, it's wonderful to have you on, thanks for being on the show and good luck as the announcer forever now. >> thank you, sir. >> announcer for life. >> that's fine. we got the round table to dig into bill clinton -- actually, barack obama and ebola and how he handles it. plus, the nfl's history of going easy on domestic abuse cases. how does hillary clinton this year cam paired to what bill clinton was like before he ran? so many interesting differences, but hillary does have advantages over the first bill clinton when he came to national life. we'll talk about that. we'll have a look at last night's minnesota senate debate between senator al franken and his challenger businessman mike mcfadden.
here it is. >> have you done a town hall meeting since elected? i believe president obama has done more town halls than you have in this state. >> i have done so many public meetings in which people have the chance to ask questions. i have a minnesota breakfast in washington every wednesday, that your son came to. >> he's the most partisan senator in the democratic party. that's a fact, not my opinion. al franken is the ted cruz of the democratic party. (male announcer) it's happening.
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enterovirus 68 has been blamed for four deaths. protests began in hong kong late last month. now we take you back to "hardball." welcome back to "hardball." ebola and politics. how could the president's handling of the ebola situation affect democrats' chances this november? plus the dramatic evolution of the clinton brand from 1992 to 2016? we'll get to all of that with the round table. u.s. congressman jack kington of georgia. political reporter casey hunt and perry bacon. this is what president obama said about ebola two weeks ago. >> i want the american people to know that our experts here at
the cdc and across our government agree that the chances of an ebola outbreak here in the united states are extremely low. in the unlikely event that someone with ebola does reach our shores, we've seen new measures so that we're prorpd here at home. >> we are now in the unlikely event. we are living in the unlikely event. what does that do to the president and government's credibility in saying there's nothing to fear? >> i think it hurts them. i think the american people are tender in terms of what this government does and says is sometimes very different. i believe that ultimately what the president needs to do, chris, is have some high figure profile person, like george mitchell with the middle east back in the day, or the irish situation, where he can say, i'm going to cut all the red tape. . the cdc and the dod and all the government acnimzs, they need to
be on the same page with the world health organization. right now, i'm seeing too many agencies going in too many different directions and here's the case of a hospital that did not follow obvious, very obvious protocol and should have been able to prevent this. >> they sent the guy home. it took his nephew to come back and beg for admission. this is a tricky time. senate races coming up. congressman is involved in one. we have races that could tip. ten seats could go republicans because of uneasiness. just a sense of we don't like the feeling in this country right now. your thoughts? >> yeah, i think the ebola situation is dangerous. also focus on the secret service as well. there's a sense that a lot of things in washington are going wrong. isis, add that to it as well. a lot of republicans focused on the president's challenges and failures. that could affect the races, considering democrats are already at a disadvantage,
looking at georgia, arkansas, so conservative in the first place. >> first i want to put my thought in here. we have second termitis going on right now. you bring in the second team, you get second-term performance. presidents when they get elected, my god, this is the biggest challenge of my life, i'm going to bring in the best team i can find. i want everybody in the room to be smarter than me. that's the standard they set, the smart president, whether it's reagan, or fdr, everybody in the room, smarter than i am. this administration is not that way anymore. too many staffers that are "yes" people and not the inclusion of new people. not staffers of staffers of staffers. that's my argument. as hillary clinton readies her presidential run, the clinton brand today differs sharply from 1992.
in today's politico, the clinton brand is of 2014 is missing three key elements, the first was new ideas, second, was an authentic populist connection and the third one was change. casey, you study this stuff, i think -- well, i want to hear what you think. hillary has advantages, but not some of the advantages that bill had? >> right. i was with bill and hillary at that steak fry in iowa. it's so obvious that he loves this stuff. and she's still trying to figure out how to put her toes in the water. she's not as comfortable as he is, in sitting around and talking about the basics of politics. he was up, talking to reporters. he was spending extra time with voters. she was quick in her interactions. she was friendly and warm, but not relishing that kind of thing. i think that they do have a point in saying that she would be the first woman president. and i do think that sometimes we
underestimate that, as far as how -- especially women voters would feel about putting, you know, a woman in the white house. she might not be a new generation, but that would be a really significant step. >> another plus she has we often overlook. she's a worldwide celebrity. everybody in the world who reads a newspaper anywhere knows who hillary clinton is. bill clinton was just a governor from a small state when he ran. >> exact ly, chris. >> i would rather be hillary clinton in 2015 than bill clinton in 1991. first, the celebrity factor. number two, democrats view bill clinton as a successful president and hillary clinton was beside him at the time. it will be a challenge. i think there's a challenge of what are her ideas? how is she different from bill clinton or barack obama? and two, there is that populism question. there's an elizabeth warren faction of the party. she's going to figure out how to
meet that demand, how does she appeal to those people? that said, she's got a great start. he's way ahead of anybody else for the democratic nomination. so i think these three problems are smalling whi challenging i say. bill clinton was a southerner. i remember down in waco, texas, the young clerk in the hotel i walked into, he said i kind of thing those two boys are going to win. there was a sense of regional guys running in their 40s. bill clinton carried george, i believe in '92, lost in '96. can hillary clinton have a shot in a place like georgia? >> i don't think she can. and james carville was the governor's consultant when he was running. but i think we also have to remember that bill clinton was running after 12 years of republican rule and with a very bad economy. now the economy is not so great, but it's not the republicans' fault. i think that's going to hurt her. but getting back to bill clinton's southern charm, if you
will, i've met him many times. he's a likeable guy, an approachable guy. he can talk to the heads of state. he can talk to the gas station attendant. hillary clinton does not have that skill, and she can't fake it. >> do you ever talk to her on that one to one basis? i've done it and it's a different hillary when you meet her. i think he's very easy to get along with when you meet her, if she's not afraid of you that day. she should be afraid of people like me, maybe that day. but you're on the other side of the aisle. when you're with her personally, do you find her off-putting or cold? what would be your definition? >> no. but i don't find her warm and friendly and charming. what i do sense with bill clinton is a guy who is genuinely interested in me. when he's talking to me, that's his focus. he likes to know how the clock works in terms of the human personality. tell me about your job, and he can connect with you, but hillary's little more stand-offish. a little more academic, if you
will. >> you've given me something for my next book. that's great. he likes to know how the clock works. casey, we got to come back with all three of you folks. let's talk about the secret service scandal. this latest one about the guy getting tipsy and spreading the word about the president's travel schedule. that can be dangerous doing that in the middle of the night. anyway, this is "hardball," the place for politics. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. ♪ ♪
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we're back. just when you thought it couldn't get worse for united states secret service, another scandal hits. a former aid on mitt romney's presidential campaign is saying that his secret service campaign lae leaked president's schedule to ryan's staffers back in 2012, during the campaign. sean mccoy published on the ground in a key swing state to coordinate security ahead of several cam feign stops by the president. in one particular incidenincide secret service agent who had a number of drinks during the meeting began providing details of president obama's schedule. including times and dates of the president's events.
congressman, we all know if you've got a guy scheduling, you've got his whole plan figuring out. it's also a security issue. we're not supposed to know where the president is going before they want us to know. what do you think of a secret servicejegent getting a little tipsy or even drunk? >> what was he doing at a bar? what was he doing drinking to begin with, much less running his mouth. i think that's why speaker boehner and chairman mccawl are right for the entire secret service culture, if you will. that kind of incident, we don't hear about it. it was reported through back channels. the president was not told about it. i think what the chairman is going to do is find out more about this and find out how evasive it is. >> i think this is imperative
where agencies have tremendous track records. you can be t't assume that the team will always win, you can assume that the secret service will always be as wonderful as it was when it saved reagan's life. >> somebody getting on the elevator with the president and have a gun, a, and then, kbrb, e the president not know about it, that story particularly was very strubling. >> you know what's worse? he had a criminal record. you know what else is worse? he had a cell phone camera going. imagine doing that to the president close range? >> the one thing i will say here is, you know, and i covered rodney aes campaign. i got to know many of the secret service ajengents who protected
romney pretty well. most of the secret service agents are in it for the right reason. but that said, this is probably only the tip of the ice burg. we've forgotten there was an ins de incidents where one of the secret service agents left a gun in the bathroom of the plane. so i think for every instance that we're starting to hear about now, there's probably two or three that we're unaware of. at this point, as perry and the congressman were saying, really a management question. that's the kind of thing from the coupleture at the top that matter it is most. >> i think leadership is key, anyway. come back whenever you want, sir. we like having you on. casey hunt, perry bacon, we'll 3w right back. >> thanks, chris. >> thanks, chris. then there's trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. our expertise, technology, and high quality parts means your peace of mind.
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we are doing our entire living room in stainless steel. >> very good. good morning, everybody. tuesday, october 7th. look at that times square. it's buzzing or still is. with us on set, we have associate professor from columbia school of university, along with willie, joe and me. >> yeah. what's up? >> we need to talk about what we'll wear, before we wear it. this is like -- >> just get it out of the way. >> a holiday party. i've got to change. >> it's still october. what's going on? >> halloween -- >> i don't like this. this is not going to work. this is not going to work. >> i'm sorry. >> can you do -- i'm going to change. hold on. i'll be right back. you read the news. i'll be right back. >> no, please don't change. i like that sweater. it doesn't look like it will walk away. it doesn't look dirty. >> i'm going to get another garanimals going on. >> that's the first time he actually wore a different sweater. all right. well, okay. he's gone. let's do the news, shall we? willie, dorian? i can't believe it. >> i like the holiday look. >> i thought he looked good. you know? just trying to mix it up a little bit. okay. if you believe the latest polling, allison lunder gram
grimes has a real chance at unseating the top republican in the senate. according to a new kentucky bluegrass poll, grimes leads senator mitch mcconnell 46 to 44%. a month ago, mcconnell was up by eight points in the nbc news maris poll. that's not the only race by the way where democrats are showing strength. so we're seeing this in a couple of other key places. north carolina, kay hagen, has a four-point lead on tom tillis. still pretty close, but still leading him. the race in kansas already starting to look out of reach for incumbent pat roberts. he's down by 10% to independent greg orman. in colorado, mark udall has a three-point edge on cory gardiner. that's close to a tossup. gardiner was leading by as much
as eight points. and jeanne shaheen is now leading over scott brown by seven. and in iowa where joannie ernst was leading by six, she is tied with democratic bruce braley. i don't know. you think the president is such a hindrance as sort of the narrative has been, dorian. yet, we are seeing something, potentially happening here. if you believe these polls. >> right, you know, we haven't seen the clintons in action yet, by the way. >> well, we're going to talk about them. good point. >> so that'll make a difference. but this -- it's hard to disentangle is this an anti-incumbency wave or potential wave or is this something that the democrats are doing in terms of their campaign strategy that republicans aren't? >> grimes, that's particularly remarkable. it started to slip away and then you saw mcconnell get some distance.
so she's closed that gap now with a month left to go. as you say, that whole campaign for mitch mcconnell has been about pairing her with president obama. >> yeah. >> now, here she is tied. >> i find that to be extremely interesting to watch. in alaska, mark begich has been losing ground. and tom cotton has a slight edge. and louisiana senator mary landrieu is down by six points to republican bill cassidy. there we're seeing a fight there for senator landrieu's life. the comeback kid though, as you mentioned is looking to help democrats in his home state. former president bill clinton returned to arkansas to headline rallies for democratic senator mark pryor. and gubernatorial campaign mark ross his former driver. he urged them to reject the
republican efforts to make the elections about president obama. >> thank you. you cannot afford to do what their opponents want. they want you to make it a protest vote. all three of these races they're saying you may like these guys, but you know what you have to do. you have to vote against the president. i promise your last shot. it's a pretty good scam, isn't it? i may wander and groan, but i may never be far from home. you're in my heart and you'll always be arkansas, you run deep in me. vote your heart. don't vote for what they tell you you have to be against. vote for what you know you should be for. vote for mark pryor. vote for mike ross. vote for pat hayes. vote for the legacy and you'll be happy a month from now. thank you and god bless you. >> boy, he's something isn't he? willie geist -- >> yes you are. >> could he be any happier? getting to -- >> please don't do the face
scratching. don't do it. >> and how about mitch mcconnell, huh? he's down. >> yes. i mentioned that at the top of the show when you walked away. [ laughter ] >> that was great. >> we were chatting about that. >> i was excited about your reaction and you left. you just left. i'm going to do that. let me try that. >> me too. >> why? i thought we looked good. >> because i didn't want to hear andy williams' holiday song in my ear. we were talking before the show as we were coordinating our sweaters -- >> yeah. >> if you look what's happening with mcconnell and we were out asking what were the polls going to look like after the beheadings? after barack obama went out golfing. after the beheading. specifically. and now we're starting to see, like a big turn around in kentucky. you look in north carolina, big turn around, republicans were sure a month ago this is a wave election. it may still be a wave election. you just don't see the evidence of it out there. in fact, democrats are doing so
much better now than they should be doing. and republicans now are going to lose kansas? >> what do you make of kentucky though? i don't see it as sort of related to isis. do you? i mean, is that what's happening here? >> well, -- >> this is -- >> all democrats were hurt a month ago by barack obama's seeming obliviousness to what was going on with isis and the jv comments and the golfing after. but i think you're starting to see the races go back to sort of their set point. and the set point is, let's just say it, a lot of kentucky people can't relate to mitch mcconnell. they may not agree with grimes on a lot of issues. >> she and other candidates have run a smart campaign, distancing themselves from the president,
right? so as the president -- as the former president bill clinton said in arkansas yesterday -- this is not a vote for barack obama. this is a vote for mark pryor or lundergren grimes. this should have republicans worried for 2016, by the way. because they have a lot more seats to defend in 2016. >> on clinton's comments, they were interesting too. as dorian points out, he said this is two more years of president obama. don't worry, it's only two more years, but these guys are applying for six-year jobs. >> right. >> don't make this about president obama. maybe if you want to read a few things into that, there could be somebody else -- >> he's very, very good. >> if you talked to any republican strategist six months ago, a year ago, listen, a month before the election -- >> to an independent candidate. >> and there won't be a democrat in the race, you're losing north carolina, you're going to -- in some polls you're going to be losing louisiana. arkansas is going to be split
down the middle. i can tell you as a republican we're screwed. >> iowa is tied. >> iowa is tied. by the way, i'm sorry, the democrat out in iowa is a clown. i mean, democrats say quietly that guy is a clown. he's ill-fit for candidacy. he goes to texas trial lawyers, hey, the last thing we want is somebody from iowa -- dumb farm base is what he's saying running committees. >> joannie ernst -- >> against the candidate? >> clearly, iowa voters are thinking something else now. >> i don't know. i think if you look at the trend, it's all decidedly against the republicans right now. there are exceptions but go to scott walker, a guy i like very much. who was, you know, the great hope for a lot of conservatives like myself, he may not even win this year. >> well, he's being investigated
for corruption scandal. >> go a state over to michigan, one tough nerd. you know, the governor of michigan. a year ago, everything looked great. now, he's on the run. this is -- and here's the thing. this is what republicans need to understand. i have been saying -- you have to stand for something. you just can't be against president obama and if the republicans can't win, and reince priebus will say this, if the republicans can't win in 2014 when everything is breaking their way, when they are fighting on -- in red states, then in '16 all the senate fights will be in blue states, plus the presidential race is going to be especially ugly. >> yeah. let me get one other headline in here. officials are confirming the first case of ebola to be contracted outside of west africa. a nurse in spain is in stable condition at a hospital this morning after testing positive
for the deadly virus. officials say she cared for two spanish priests who both died from ebola. meanwhile, the parents of freelance nbc cameraman ashoka mukpo said he's in good spirits after arriving in omaha for treatment. meanwhile, dr. nancy snyderman and her team arrived in the united states last night on a charter flight and were checked by a health official upon arrival. all are feeling well, in good health. they're deemed low risk, but will be staying home and monitoring their temperature for the remainder of the 21-day period recommended by health authorities. and in dallas, the man being treated for the ebola virus remains in critical condition. we have learned thomas eric duncan is being given an experimental drug that was approved by the fda. president obama says his administration is working on increased screening for ebola at airports here in the u.s. and overseas. it comes as a new pew research poll finds nearly 60% of americans have either a great or
fair amount of confidence the government could prevent an ebola outbreak in the united states. but there's a sharp divide among parties. 69% of democrats share that confidence. while 51% of republicans have little or no confidence in the u.s. government in terms of how it could stop an outbreak. i think screening is going to be difficult. i don't know how they'll do it, because it's not just about cutting off flights if they go a step further. flights coming in from all sorts of different countries and flights going back. >> willie, what do you make of the poll, the republicans -- >> they don't trust -- >> it looks like it's about president obama. it's just a blind referendum. it's kind of strange that that -- that became a political question. >> i think it's a lot of things. obamacare, irs. a lot of things that have kind of made us think -- >> i agree. i think democrats feel the same way about government. if you asked them how is george
w. bush handling the outbreak you'd see that flip. this is political. >> it's strange. >> about ebola? >> and i guess -- at the local level versus the federal level especially since president obama's been in office. so that's not unusual. it's just the broad trends. but it is strange around ebola. it's not an explicitly political question. >> and the bigger question of whether people are losing faith in institutions we talked about for some time. anyway, we have a big show today. did you see chris matthews is dropping by to say hello? >> i can't wait. i can't wait. you two be nice now. all right. still ahead this hour, why you may look like a member of the courts militia if you stop at h&m -- if you shop at h&m. have you ever shopped there? >> i was there yesterday for the sweater. >> the kids love it. i can't believe you changed in the middle of the show. and plus an update, the bubble man. he is safe on land.
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holy cow. >> like a cashew? >> okay. >> wow. first time i heard that expression. >> well, so we have -- we're reading stories from local -- >> no, time to look at the morning papers that you care about. "the los angeles times," pope francis has called a meeting of 200 cardinals and bishops in rome to consider controversial issues for the church. including divorce, contraception and sexuality. no topic is off limits and the holy father has encouraged attendees to speak openly and freely. they'll discuss the survey of catholics worldwide which many feel that the church is out of touch with their needs. "new york times" t waldorf astoria hotel will be sold to a
chinese insurance company -- >> of course it will. >> for nearly $2 billion. one of the highest prices paid in a hotel sale. the landmark hotel which has hosted social gatherings will undergo a big renovation. the company plans to return the 47-story building to the original art deco style. h&m has come under fire for a khaki jumpsuit which many say resembles the uniforms worn by the female kurdish militia. >> i think it's fetching. >> what the heck is this story? so far reaction -- >> would you wear that? i kind of like that, mika. >> i don't think i could pull it off. >> but if you could, would you wear that? >> sure. >> the one on the right, with the gun and the hat. >> i could do that. the reaction has been mixed with some saying it celebrates the
females who are currently fighting the islamic state in syria, but others say it is insensitive. what? h&m spokesman -- i know the designer was not thinking kurdish militia. come on. move it on. i'm not reading it, it's stupid. that's stupid. anyone who would argue with that has no life. >> and i read the delaware news journal every morning. >> then you already read this story. the police have arrested the mother of a 4-year-old after the kid showed up to her day care with a backpack full of heroin. >> what? >> not good. >> the little girl was caught handing -- oh, my gosh. handing out packages of drugs. >> no! >> to her classmates, thinking it was candy. the mother has been charged with endangering the health -- >> what? >> heroin? >> what do you send them to
school with? >> coke. diet coke. he loves it. he gets him buzzing around. >> mm-hmm. little jack. don't say that. not right. >> just joking. just joking. >> the telegraph -- stop it, willie. this is important. >> i don't know what that means. >> michael bloomberg was given an honorary knighthood by the queen of england. the british embassy said he was granted the honor due to his entrepreneurial and philanthropic endeavors. don't call him sir mike. bloomberg will not use the word sir because he's not a british citizen. >> thank you for clarifying that, mika. >> okay. go to new orleans. >> a collision between a train and a big rig has left two rail workers injured. thank think no one was injured. a truck was stuck on the track and here it comes. >> oh, no, not good.
>> the train cut the trailer in half. the driver of the truck escaped unharmed. >> i with wish we could show that in slow motion. >> the train's conductor and engineer suffered minor injuries. residents have been evacuated due to concerns over a gas spill. >> my goodness. incredible. all right. >> coming up next, voters are still hungry for gun laws despite it getting little to no interest on the campaign trail. and joe biden defended by the editorial board that's standing up for the vice president ahead. don't go away. we may have another outfit change. >> no, no fashion changes. nothing. we'll be right back. stop! [ hoof beats ]
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>> who is joe biden? >> who is joe biden? i have no idea. >> do you know who our vice president is? >> um, no. i don't. >> do you want to take a guess? >> condoleezza rice? >> you're right. first female black vice president. >> i don't know. the guy joe biden, he is a republican and he's going to be president soon? i'm assuming. >> he's coming in to town today. >> he is. >> he's like an assistant president or something, i don't -- >> that's right. he's the assistant president. >> assistant president. [ cheers and applause ] >> i -- >> that's just not funny, actually. >> yeah. i watched the first two, funny. but when it kept going? >> that is just tremendous. whoa! >> scary. >> okay. so let's do the must reads.
we have a bunch to get to here. "the wall street journal," joe biden's apology tour. and this is what the paper says. mocking joe biden is a national sport, but today we come to defend him. the vice president spent the weekend apologizing to middle eastern strongman for his comments about syria, but he's apologizing to the wrong people for the wrong reason. they did arm extremists in syria. if mr. biden is feeling contrite he ought to apologize to the syrian and the american people. for three years the obama administration sat on its hands in syria as the moderate army was marginalized on the battlefield, isis and others moved in. >> dorian, what's your take, is that true? >> this is the 111th apology tour he's gone on. that's his trademark, speaking honestly in a field that it's
hard to do that. >> sure. >> in terms of the actual apology, i don't think he needs to do that. but the editorial is interesting because there's an issue to be raising, what's our relationship with the previous ally in terms of the rebel forces in syria? >> and why? i understand he has to be diplomatic, but why apologize to turkey? turkey should be apologizing to us. turkey, if they continue to act this way should be kicked out of nato. turkey should be called out for what they are. >> well, when is the president in turkey going to apologize to the united states for having isis on his doorstep? and he's quite close to having to call nato 911 to rescue the turkish border. >> that's right. >> all right, let me get two more on this while we're on it. this is -- i'll go to "the wall street journal" again actually because senators john mccain and lindsey graham penned a piece.
remove assad. how can we arm and train 5,000 syrians and expect them to succeed against islamic state without protecting them and their families? from the assad's air strikes and bombs or expect moderate groups to take advantage of u.s. air strikes if we do not coordinate or communicate our operations with them? this is reportedly not happening. instead, mr. assad is exploiting u.s. air strikes to kill the very people we want as our partners. this is not just a recipe for failure. it is immoral. >> willie, okay, how do we do it? how do we invade syria and take out assad? how do we -- how do we do that? >> well, we have swung in a year from saying we wanted to get rid of assad to now kind of supporting people who are helping assad. we are fighting the people he's fighting inside the country. >> what void is created? >> i don't think people are talking about this, how is the
assad regime responding to what? we have gone into his air space and launched military strikes in here. what's his reaction, is there any coordination, what's going on between us and him? >> so we have this -- >> right now, it's -- >> right. >> he's like, go ahead. again, for lindsey and senator mccain, i would ask, we go in, let's say we take him out. what does syria look like in a decade? i'd like them to answer the question. i'm sure maybe one of them will. like to answer the question. would the middle east be safer today with saddam hussein in power or out of power? at what point do we start judging characters in the middle east by one very simple question. do they want to kill people in the united states of america or do they want to be left alone in their open countries? it's that simple. saddam hussein did not have
plans to blow up america. >> no. >> al qaeda did. isis does. >> saddam was never coming here. >> yeah, i know there's talk about a possible, you know, possible assassination attempt against 41. you can ask the same question though about -- as horrible of a human being as he is, does assad want to blow up buildings in washington and new york? i mean, and if he doesn't, who is going to replace him? possibili possibly -- these are questions that we don't answer before firing. >> i want to read part of "the new york times" editorial on ebola because it points to one of the reasons why it's so complicated to just sort of deny access and sort of siphon off an area of the world. they write in part this, top health officials are strongly opposed with good reason to take the more extreme step of banning
all travel to the united states from guinea, liberia and sierra leone where the epidemic is concentrated as several prominent republicans like louisiana's governor bobby jindal have recommended. that could actually hamper the battle to contain the epidemic abroad. the first line of defense against the disease in part by leaving americans who are risking their lives to contain the epidemic stranded in africa, with no way to return home. if volunteer workers can't return home, they may elect not to go in the first place. that's weakening the fight against the epidemic. >> that's a silly argument. >> i don't think it is. >> that's a silly argument. >> you do not want to it to explode there. >> that's silly. >> why? >> because you go, do you have an american passport? thank you. this is a false choice. to say, well, we can't ban people coming from west africa. that aren't aid workers here. i'm not recommending we do it. i am saying we need to ask the question.
and that -- this is -- this is why there's not a real discussion on this, because dorian this is a false choice to say somehow we aren't advanced enough to see who has an american passport and we allow them to come back, versus somebody like the gentleman that came back to dallas? >> all right. but i'm going to defend that editorial, joe, because the premise is that the -- there's an incentive. there's a signal that i would send to potential people that would go over. your plan sounds just fine to me. yes, maybe we could carve it out so that only american aid workers could get back in. but to a lot of people they just hear we're banning all people coming from west africa. that creates an incentive for people not to want to do good and go over and help. >> i think the aid workers, all the aid agencies, would be sending people over there, mike, would again, they would know if they were able to come back. >> but there's a larger issue
here and it gets into what we were talking about earlier. it gets into turkey and syria and saudi arabia and qatar. it's us. the world needs -- looks to us, to the united states for everything. where are the other countries? every country in the world can be affected by the ebola virus. >> that's true. >> you can carry it -- ships. you can -- it can leave by sea. it can leave by air. now, if you're in liberia and you have even a scintilla of evidence that you or a member of your family have the ebola virus, where are you going to go? you're not going to want to stay in liberia. >> you'll want to go to the united states. >> you'll want to come to the united states of america. so the larger universe depends on us for so many things that we should start using our influence and say to other countries, come on, come on. >> and the international response has been so slow and so -- >> yes. >> just -- >> the world health organization it has been absolutely scandalous. i just -- this op-ed you're talking about, in "the new york
times" i'm not saying put a wall up and don't let anybody come over from west africa. i just want a better argument. that's not a strong argument at all. you can allow aid workers to go over and to come back. and i just -- i want to know what's the argument for having people from liberia and the other affected countries not coming to the united states. unless they pass a really rigorous screening process. because again -- >> working on new -- >> if i had a child that had ebola i would figure out how to get to the united states. >> i would lie on every form. >> uptick screening process. what are we going to have at airports? you can't have the tsa people like two or three tsa people instead of one tsa person. you need nurses and doctors at the airports. >> the real problem, you have to have them camp out for 21 days. >> right. >> so even the screening process seems to be a nonstarter in many
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fulfilling the promise of equality. >> that was virginia's attorney general praising yesterday's decision by the supreme court. the justices declined to rule on challenges to lower court decisions that overturn same-sex marriage bans in indiana, oklahoma, utah, virginia and wisconsin. marriage equality now exists in 24 states, plus the district of columbia. and the supreme court's decision will soon bring the marriage equality to 30. still, the supreme court did not settle the issue for the country as a whole. so joining us now, executive director of the national center for lesbian rights, kate kendall. good to have you on board with us this morning. >> great to be here. >> so kate, i take it you agree with the virginia attorney general that this was a great day for proponents of same-sex marriage? >> oh, it's a sweeping day. it's a ground breaking moment. i think it's a moment last year with the windsor decision and the striking down of the defense of marriage act, we hit an
undeniable tipping point. i think yesterday is the undeniable no going back point. it's really extraordinary. >> well, isn't there -- wouldn't it have been extraordinary if the supreme court actually decided to take the cases and rule on them? there's still ambiguity out there, right? >> we have to pick up the other 15 states, no doubt about that. i will say that the court's decision to deny review in all five cases and to now have the three circuit court rulings stand and to have marriage now immediately in another 11 states was not something any of us anticipated. but the momentum that that signals -- i think what the court is essentially indicating by declining review is that it is confirming that these circuit courts are getting it right. i think that's huge. >> but you said what you think, you're guessing which allows in another -- again, i'm not knocking you.
obviously if i were in your position and i took your position, i would be excited about it. everybody is saying this is a glorious day, but even your morning, you're saying i think what the court is saying, but this still allows another what, 25 states to ban same-sex marriage, right? >> well, it has 15 -- there will be 15 states that will not be states that recognize the right of same-sex couples to marry or perform those marriages itself. but you have to agree that this is a sweeping momentum shift and we had momentum before and now it's momentum like turbo charged. and i can't imagine a situation -- i think this is a clear signal to the remaining circuit courts that the -- where the court is on the ultimate question. because they're not going to have a ruling like this that they know will be so sweeping and then take it away. they're in our corner, they're ready to rule then we that moment comes. but they're happy to let this
play out. >> joe, i want to show you the response from republican governors, but governor pence,ly always believe in the importance of traditional marriage and abide by the rule of law. under our system of government, people are free to disagree with the court decisions but not to disobey them. governor walker says for us, it's over in wisconsin. the federal courts have ruled that this -- that this decision by this court of appeals decision is the law of the land and we will be upholding it. >> well, again, it was -- again for proponents of same-sex marriage yesterday was a great day. but it's not a slam dunk, kate, obviously until the supreme court rules at least five justices on the united states supreme court rule that you are a -- a state is violating the equal protection clause if they ban gay marriage. >> well, no, that's a really important point.
and we are one country. it is an untenable situation that we will have couples who will be married in wisconsin and if they -- if their car rolls across the state line, their relationship will not be recognized. that is obscene. so that -- that has to change. >> let me ask you, why do you think -- what's your gut on why the justices were afraid -- and they were. the justices did not want to touch this case. what's your gut? just your politics aside and your beliefs aside, as a legal analyst, why did the court shy away from ruling on this case? >> well, i think there are a couple -- i mean, i can't read the tea leaves any better than anyone else, but i think there are two reasons. one, they decided two really important cases for the lgbt community just last term. the windsor ruling and the
ruling on prop 8. and the second thing, this is like really from my first year in law school, there's no split in the circuits. every circuit -- fourth, seventh, tenth, all ruled in favor of marriage equality. i think if you go back to the classic reasons why a court would take a case for review, they want to settle a question among which there is disagreement. you know, ginsburg signalled this in a law school speech she gave a few weeks ago. it was the first time she laid out this possible scenario. i have to say a lot of my law school professor friends pretty much said to me, kate, that's how it's going to be. i actually think in some ways this is brilliant because what it will signal, as more people live with the reality of same-sex couples getting married in their communities and their marriage is still fine, the community is fine and they're celebrating love and they're seeing the relationships strong and nurtured by the government, people love it. it's fine. >> kate, thank you.
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it began as an act of defiance, a way to turn a tragedy into a symbol of hope. 26 playgrounds have been built to honor the 26 victims of the sandy hook elementary school shooting. each one uniquely celebrates the children or teachers who lost their lives. brian williams brings us that story from the site of the 26th and final play ground. >> reporter: on a startlingly beautiful october day, happy children swarmed all over the brand new playground in connecticut, dedicated to the principal who died trying to protect her students at sandy hook elementary school two years ago now. after the ceremony and the flyover and the honor guard, there was raw emotion. a reading from a book that dawn loved to read to the children. it was led by one of her daughters.
the young children don't understand why this playground was built, but their faces remind us what it's meant for. >> it is amazing. she would be so, so happy. >> reporter: all 26 of the memorial sandy hook playgrounds are now happy places. they're all scattered around the new york area in towns that also suffered damage from hurricane sandy. and at each one, the family members pitched in. >> put my hands in the cement. >> reporter: what is your favorite job to watch and favorite job to do yourself? >> my favorite is probably the sidewalk. and my favorite job to watch is probably the panels that they put on the -- >> reporter: okay. for the other families who lost someone at sandy hook, this project has held so much meaning. >> we became a family with all the firefighters. >> our little daniel loved to go to the playground.
it's a beautiful tribute. >> today, the angels are looking down at us. wow, this is the final one. it's beautiful. >> reporter: the group behind this is a foundation called where angels play and they plan to keep doing this across the country in places where there's been tragedy. like boston, aurora, colorado, and moore, oklahoma. bill lavin is the founder of this whole concept. he's a retired new jersey firefighter who told me on the job site last week it doesn't get more personal for him. if you close your eyes can you see all 26, do they have a special meaning to you? >> every single one has a miracle that's happened. think of the moms and dads who have inspired this group here. who will work from dawn to dusk. then thank me for allowing them to do all of that. you know? they'll thank us. but quite frankly this is our blessing and privilege. >> what a beautiful idea. >> really is a beautiful, beautiful idea.
hard to believe, but this december it will be two years since sandy hook. and mike, tell you what, i just can't -- i can't, other than 911 i just can't think of a day that has shattered the peace of this country more than that day. and there's a lot of talk after about gun control. there are a lot of battles. nothing has been done on any front. the issue i talked about the most, the background checks. i went back and checked -- checked to see. because there are a lot of things like -- people talk about assault weapons bans and even mike bloomberg said that won't save lives down the ground. but the background checks, a new quinnipiac poll shows that -- i say new this year, still overwhelmingly support background checks. even gun owners. even gun owners.
even gun owners. >> yeah. >> support background checks. 92% to 6%. not gun control. background checks to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally deranged. out of the hands of terrorists. out of the hands of convicts. and congress does nothing. nothing, nothing. >> you mentioned september 11th. after september 11th, this country came out of that epic tragedy with a sense of purpose. with a sense of unity. now, it became misguided. we invaded iraq. after what happened in connecticut two years ago this december, it raises the question, who are we? i will forever be amazed that there was no sense of purpose, no specific sense of outrage
directed at our institutions, the congress, various state legislatures, ourselves as to why we can't do minimal steps to remove weaponry from the hands of the deranged. >> the cowards in congress ran and hid despite the fact that in some states 94, 95% of the people in their states supported background checks, expansive background checks, like ronald reagan supported background checks, like george w. bush supported background checks. like 92% of gun owners support background checks and they were afraid of the 4%. by the way, if -- forget gun control, forget ale the things that diane feinstein wants. if you take care of that, and you realize that the gun
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a pair of newscasters up in boston came back from commercial and something was a little off. just watch. >> good morning, everybody. thanks for joining us this morning on the october 4th. >> look at that guy's coffee mug again. just hold it -- the only way you can save that, mugs are they safer held upside down? a new report finds the answer. >> oh, my goodness. that's so funny. see, if we did that, all of the vodka would fall out. you have to keep it upright, joe. welcome back to "morning joe." joining us from washington, i've got a copy of tip and the gipper. did you get yours? >> a paper back. >> the host of "hardball", chris matthews.
his book. "tip and the gipper, when politics worked." now out in paper back. more than ever before, we need this book. >> chris, we'll talk to you about this book in a little bit. we want to get through some news first. but we'll talk -- looking through the lens of a story we just talked about about background checks. 92% of the people supporting it, but congress -- >> we'll do that. >> let's go through the polls first. >> if you believe, chris, the latest polling, alison lundergan grimes has a chance of unseating the top republican in the senate. according to a new kentucky bluegrass poll, grimes leads senator mcconnell 46 to 44% that's within the four-point margin of error. a month ago, mcconnell was up by eight points in the nbc news/maris poll. what do you think is going on there? >> well, i think that's a robo poll. so i'm not sure that's not an
outlier. we have to watch the pattern, i think it's an outlier. >> not the only race that democrats are showing strength. kay hagen was a four-point lead over tom tillis. the race in kansas is starting to look out of reach for incumbent pat roberts, he's done by ten to greg orman, an independent. >> we'll save this tape until wednesday after the elections. let's make our predictions a month out. in the republicans win the senate i think they have a good chance to do it. it will be the following route they'll take. they'll win south dakota, montana, west virginia for sure. the next states will be alaska, arkansas and louisiana. they'll then have to win iowa which i think they'll win because they have make up for the loss to the independent orman. again, south dakota, montana, west virginia, alaska, arkansas, louisiana, and iowa. if they want to pick up a little bit of a benefit or a premium, they'll win in north carolina. but i don't think they will. or in colorado or new hampshire or michigan.
>> chris -- >> just a minute, joe. just a minute. >> no no, it's my show. i'm going to ask you a question. >> no. >> you always do this and you act like you never ask follow-up questions and you come on my show and you're shocked and stunned that somebody stopped you and asked you a question. to the follow-up question, what's happening in north carolina? >> i think she's going to win it. >> why? >> really? >> she's a really good candidate. >> why though? i'm just curious. this is a state that obviously it's sort of a purple state right now. >> yes. >> she was supposed to be weak. look at the south, mary landrieu is keeping it close. arkansas is closer than it should be. north carolina is closer than it should be. it seems like the solid south for republicans isn't so solid anymore. >> yeah, well, i made my prediction for what i think going to happen. the net six pickup they'll squeak in. but it's a month out, of course. i think north carolina is interesting because tillis has to play defense as well as
offense. i know the state is moving to the right. certainly -- and i know that, i don't like it, but it's happening. but i think she's been running consistently well. this is going on for months now. a consistent performance ahead of tillis. i think she's capable of -- a winner again this time. >> i wonder if in north carolina you had republicans take over in 2010, they went further right than a lot of people in north carolina were ready for them to go. you have the state senator who's actually paying for that on the campaign trail now. >> yeah, well i have a sentimental thing, we're bringing the whole team down to follow around that race and i'm getting -- i'm bragging now. the north carolina hall of fame i'm getting down there. so i love the place down there. >> of course you do. congratulations. you sound like my dad right now. >> i love it. >> let's go to some other races. >> well, you mentioned colorado, mark udall has a three-point edge over cory gardner. >> yeah.
i think he'll win. >> last month cory gardner was leading. jean shne shaheen was tied with scott brown and now is leading. and now joni ernst is now tied -- >> maike barnicle i want to ask you, remember we heard in new hampshire, the day after president obama went golfing, right after the isis beheading, you had people up there telling you they saw immediately a drop in polls? >> yeah. >> a month ago we had republicans coming on here saying oh, this is going to be a wave election. we're feeling good about it. we have those elections after the president seemed disengaged on isis. and now in all of the states -- not all, but most, it looks like we're back in the democrats' favor from a tie a month ago in new hampshire to the seven point lead for jeanne shaheen.
i know chris said it's a robo call, but a lot of the twists around turns are going in the democrats' direction. >> you're seeing one consistent pattern, both in north carolina and in new hampshire. shaheen and in north carolina, both have achieved some separation from barack obama. and they have had to. because on the ground in both new hampshire and north carol a carolina, i assume in north carolina it would be the same as new hampshire, they don't want him in there. both candidates do not want the president of the united states in there. jeanne shaheen is a different, unique case. she is of new hampshire. >> she's of new hampshire. let's really quickly, willie, where republicans are ahead in alaska. mark begich has been losing ground. sullivan has a slight edge over pryor in arkansas. you know, that race keeps -- i'll tell you, i thought tom cotton would be six points ahead. but this race is still close.
cbs news/"new york times" poll, louisiana senator landrieu is down by six to republican bill cassidy. much different from a poll a couple of days ago. >> it is. you mentioned that arkansas race, president clinton was in the state yesterday. really feeling up in his home state. looking to help democrats get a win there. the former president returning there. headlining rallies for mark pryor and gubernatorial candidate mike ross who is the former driver by the way. >> that's great. >> he urged them to reject republican efforts to make the elections about president obama. >> you cannot afford to do what their opponents want. they want you to make it a protest vote. all three of these races, they're saying, you may like these guys but hey, you know what you've got to do. you have to vote against the president. i promise you your last shot. it's a pretty good scam isn't it? i may wander, i may groan, but i'll never be far from home.
you're in my heart and you will always be. arkansas, you run deep in me. vote your heart. don't vote for what they tell you you have to be against. vote for what you know you should be for. vote for mark pryor. vote for mike ross. vote for pat hayes. vote for the legacy and you'll be happy a month from now. thank you and god bless you. >> it's like seeing elvis in vegas. it disn't matter -- it doesn't matter what happened before he got there and put the long scarf on, when he belts out like, you know, jailhouse rock. he's still elvis. that is a sight to behold. >> a man on his home turf. singing his favorite songs. >> i may go far -- >> chris matthews, were you moved? >> i hear 2016 calling already. >> it runs deep in you. >> it runs deep. 2016, yeah. >> hey, chris, let's say your
scenario plays out, that you laid out and republicans do squeak out the senate. okay, so they take the house. the senate. what are the last two years of president obama's second term looking like? >> well, it looks like -- go way back in history the republicans when they got the congress in '46 when truman was president, i see a lot of probes, investigations, a lot of that. you know, a lot of darrell isa stuff going on. mainly investigations and again going back to obamacare i don't think it will look good going into 2016. i think the no vote is what they're selling this time. but by 2016, people are looking for a yes candidate. somebody who offers something for the future. so they have to do a hell of a quick turn around from being the no party to the yes party.
i still think hillary has the yes, potentially over them. people want to say yes when they pick a new president. not no. i think. >> now, they do. and mika, things look very different for barack obama if republicans get in versus if the democrats hold. i will tell you this. for republicans it's the same. no matter what. whether they get in or not, if they don't have a forward looking, positive agenda they're doomed in '16. if getting in means stopping barack obama, they're going to lose in '16. the party just fold up the tent and go away. if winning the senate means they're moving forward with a positive, hopeful forward looking agenda, they have actually a shot at '16. when they're in the minority or the majority, it really doesn't matter for the '16 candidate if they're the party of no. as chris said, they are doomed in '16. i'll say it right now. they are doomed in '16 if they don't stop just playing. >> there's still time for
constructive ideas and candidat candidates who are exciting. let's get to the next story, same-sex couples in another five states are now able to be married. the supreme court declined to rule on challenges to lower court decisions that overturned same-sex marriage bans in utah and other states. and joining us now edward whalen, a former law clerk to antonin scalia and served on the senate judiciary committee. great to have you on. >> i'm just wondering, does this go on the pantheon of conservative disappointments when republicans supposedly rule the supreme court? sandra day o'connor, back in the famous missouri decision on abortion and now the roberts court deciding not to move on this issue? >> well, i think it's a
disappointment to all parties concerned, that is there are folks on both sides of the issue who thought it should be decided by the court and it's disappointing that they're letting the lower court ruling stand. that said, this seems to be a consequence of the court's opinion a couple years ago. especially in the united states versus windsor where the court ruled 5-4 that the federal defense of marriage act was unconstitutional. in reasoning that i think most people would find baffling. that act was passed by the overwhelming majorities by both houses of congress, including lots of strong supporters of gay rights. signed in to law by president clinton, but it could be explained only by an intent to injure. so i think with that sort of baffling reasoning, the conservatives on the court which a group that does not include justice kennedy, probably concluded that justice kennedy
was beyond persuasion on this. >> so governor walker said the fight is over when it comes to gay rights. do you agree? >> well, i think the question isn't one of gay rights broadly. the question is one of marriage and -- >> i misspoke. gay marriage. >> what marriage is and who decides what marriage is. obviously, in the state of wisconsin for now, there's been a judicial imposition of same-sex marriage and it's difficult to see what could possibly be done there. >> he's -- >> well, as a practical matter right now, it's difficult to see what can be done. now one could sketch a scenario in which it's not over. i won't claim to be an optimist on this. again, when one looks at where five supreme court justices appear to be there's little cause for short term optimism. >> ed, thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. again, none of the circuits disagree. if the circuits aren't disagreeing, they won't weigh in. >> chris matthews, "tip and the
gipper when politics worked." 92% of gun owners support background support and yet the extremes control so much. the big money on both sides control so much. we get nothing done. >> yeah, the funny thing is that for years, joe, you and i know that the slogan of the nra was guns don't kill people, people do. find out who are the people buying the guns. it's not about the gun, but about the person. so let's make sure that the right people are getting guns if they have to have a gun. and the wrong people don't. i mean, that seems to me consistent with what they have always argued about training and safety and everything else. isn't one of the safety precautions for the gun making sure that crazy people and murderers don't get them? isn't that safety precaution? it is logical and consistent with the way they have always approached at least theoretically gun ownership. >> chris matthews, we'll be watching "hard ball" tonight.
i love it. it's the show i'm watching as i'm winding the day down. >> can i tell one story? >> sure. >> i was on the air -- >> take about ten minutes. >> one second. one second. i was trying to explain my book when i started this push for the paper back the other day. and somebody gets on the phone with me from one of the local stations and says, when did tipper gore and ronald reagan begin their relationship? [ laughter ] >> oh! oh. >> i had no idea, mika, where to go with that. >> wow. >> i gave the bill clinton answer from the debates. i acted as if she had said tip o'neal and ignored what was -- >> that is so funny. don't you love book tours? >> sometimes you have to roll with it. like when pat buchanan had -- >> i had a doozie, remind me to tell you about it. thanks chris. after a rescue at sea, the bubble man is back.
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we'll take a look at the morning papers. "the wall street journal," the joe biden apologyç tour. it comes after making remarks critical about the allies in the middle east. >> he was right, other than confusing -- >> well, he shouldered the blame for the rise of isis and now the vice president is reaching out to officials in saudi arabia to clarify and apologize. he's spoken to leaders from turkey and the united arab emirates. >> shouldn't have done that. >> yesterday, the white house stood by the vice president. >> the vice president is somebody who has enough
character to admit when he's made a mistake. the vice president is somebody who continues to be a core member of the president's national security team. he is somebody who has decades of experience in dealing with leaders around the globe. and the president is pleased to be able to rely on his advice as we confront the variety of challenges that are so critical to american national security. >> and by the way, if you're keeping score at home, the no criticize joe zone still -- >> it applies here on the set of "morning joe." >> yeah. we're not going to criticize joe biden here. from "usa today," floyd mayweather said he's $1.4 million richer after bet on the indianapolis colts. >> hmm. >> the boxer took to instagram to share his ticket, showing he bet on week 3. he bet $373,000. negative 105 odds and the colt won it despite ending with 0-2 record. >> "the miami herald," the
endurance athlete rescued in the inflatable bubble off the coast of florida, this story brought to you by my sister-in-law. may be safe -- >> but he's still stupid. >> but he wants the bubble back. reza baluchi was attempting to run the border of the bermuda triangle in a bubble, it's called a hydropod. his journey was cut short on saturday when he was rescued by the coast guard due to extreme fatigue. his bubble was left in the water and now he wants it back. it cost him 4,500 bucks to build and it still has his green card, passport, wallet and cell phone and shoes inside. there's something so ridiculous about this story. and the guy's dead serious. he wants his bubble back. >> and how much did the coast guard spend on that, rescuing that idiot? >> yeah. maybe they can balance out after he pays them for what they did
for him, he can get his bubble back. >> we go from that story to a serious one. how about some fighting kangaroos. this is posted to reddit, two kangaroos boxing on a residential street in australia. nbc can confirm this is in fact a residential street and that those are in fact kangaroos! >> that looks like you and me after the show. >> well, sometimes during the show. look at that. >> oh, my goodness. is that -- they're raging roos. a good lower third. >> can you believe that? look at that. >> yeah. oh, yeah, you deserve that. all right. i don't know how to do this transmission. >> i'm mesmerized by that. >> can we see that again? >> okay. >> let's put it in the box in the lower left of our screen. as we take to mike allen, we can gaze at the kangaroos kick boxing. >> put it in the loop.
i'm serious. keep this up. >> keep it up and we'll talk to mike. >> we have mike allen, here with the morning playbook. if you know don't like what mike is a saying, look to the left side of your screen. mike, according to politico the midterm race for the campaign viral videos isn't close. we are going to be showing you this viral video throughout this entire segment, but first, let's take a look at what republicans are doing online. >> i'm matt rosen dale, this is how i look from the government drone. and this is what i think about it. >> sometimes when a politician has been in d.c. too long it goes to his head and he can't seem to get the job done. if you have a boehner lasting longer than 23 years seek immediate medical attention. >> i'm joni ernst, when i get to washington i know how to cut pork. >> mom, this is my decision. i see a better future with rick scott. >> sometimes it's hard to let go of old styles, but it all worked out in the end because brittany
said yes to rick scott. >> uh. >> i'm stuck on the first one. >> all right. now, the first one is pretty good. all right. so mike, why have -- i'm sorry, i don't see the kangaroos fighting, there we go. why have the republicans fared so much better than the democrats when it comes to this season? >> well, politico analyzed traffic stats from youtube and facebook and said that the republicans have a much bigger lead in the viral videos. and that's such a change from 2012 when obama and the democrats were so dominant in creating digital comment. the republicans are much better and one of the reasons is they're taking the more gorilla approach. the outsiders trying to take the senate, taking on obama. many of the most clicked ads which were made by the koch network had to do with obamacare.
and democrats say now they're more -- putting their digital resources into fund-raising e-mails. >> is there any evidence that this actually has an impact on supporters? >> i'm so glad you asked that because yes, this can change elections and could change the senate. joe, joni ernst had her stand out in a field of republicans. nobody knew who'd win that primary and now ernst who is looking strong in iowa could be a bluish state that could go red. she could be the majority maker. so in this time when everybody's attention is fractured a viral video can change the senate. >> we're looking at one right now. mike allen, thank you so much. we appreciate it. it's kind of like those old -- >> kick boxing kangaroos.
>> like the old palmolive videos, you're soaking in it. remember madge? >> yeah. bill clinton comes to the defense of mark pryor. but first, relieved to be back in the united states, but the freelance nbc cameraman still has a long way to go for recovery. we'll have kate snow with a special report coming up. and many more kangaroos kick boxing.
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now the very latest on the ebola outbreak and the efforts to keep that virus from spreading. there's a nurse in spain that's the latest to be infected. the first diagnosis outside of west africa. meanwhile, the white house is rejecting calls for a travel ban but says it's working on increased screening at airports here in the u.s. and abroad. and we're learning new information about the nbc freelance photographer who arrived for treatment less than 24 hours ago. kate snow joins us live from home omaha. how is his treatment because they were deciding on what type of medicine to give him.
>> that's right, thomas. last night we learned that he will be given some kind of a experimental medication. his father telling us that his dad happens to be a doctor in his own right and he says they're really lucky that they caught the ebola virus pretty early. ashoka mukpo is waking up in isolation. he was able to walk off the plane from liberia. >> he gave a little wave earlier when he first came in. that was reassuring. >> he and his girlfriend lived together in liberia for two years. helen was due to join him in liberia this past weekend. >> i miss him i really miss him. i was meant to see him, you know, a couple of days ago. and i wish it was under different circumstances. >> his parents say he's scared by ready to fight. >> he said i'll get through this. >> it's a combination of emotions. we have been very afraid, on the
other hand we're very confident. >> the 85-year-old mother of ebola patient thomas eric duncan arrived in dallas monday. she drove 15 hours to be near him. hoping to find a way for him to hear her voice. he is taking an experimental drug. he was given the same dose on saturday, the same day that his condition took the turn for the worse. if duncan infected anyone else, they would likely have symptoms this week. so far, none of the 48 people being watched is sick. >> 100% seen yesterday. 100% of them had no signs of fever. had no signs of illness. 100% were doing well. >> still, authorities worry about the toll this ebola case is taking. >> the stress of this and the fear of this, you know, could be more damaging to this community than the virus itself. >> now, experts say we have the tools in this country to stop any kind of ebola outbreak.
the key tool is finding anyone who's been exposed to the ebola virus and making sure that we monitor those people. that's exactly by the way what's being done with dr. nancy snyderman and her team. the nbc news team returned late last night on a charter flight and we know that they were monitored by health officials when they got here, back to the u.s. we are told they're in good health, showing no symptoms. but just out of an abundance of caution they're quarantined and staying away at home for the next 21 days. >> explain the process that h e have -- that was and the decision process made to take mukpo to the hospital in omaha. >> yeah, it sounds random, but they have a bio containment unit here that has been set up for a number of years. they have been training extensively to handle any kind of infectious disease. by the way, they already treated one patient with ebola. remember, dr. rick sacre, he was treated here. so they have experience.
the doctors were pointing out to me yesterday this is not something that's been in the u.s. much before. so it's very new so they wanted to send him somewhere where they had the expertise. >> all right, kate snow, thanks. appreciate it. coming up next, bill clinton saying arkansas runs deep in him. >> yes, it does. >> when he's not in new york city. >> we'll hear more from the former president turned star in his home state as he fights -- as he fights it falling into republican hands. joe, what do you say to that? >> i want to see kangaroos.
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democrat mark pryor is still hanging on in arkansas, but he's been slipping in the latest polls. he's now down by four to tom cotton. time to bring out the big guns and there's no one bigger in arkansas than bill clinton.
casey hunt is on the trail. >> i love my native state. without you i never would have had a chance to do anything. and i didn't come back to the briar patch, i came back to the future. >> reporter: for bill clinton this is where it all began. >> bill clinton who announced today he wants to be a democratic presidential nominee. >> i'm proud to say here in arkansas we have led the way. >> reporter: now clinton is trying to save what's left of his party in his home state. senator mark pryor, the son of clinton confidant david pryor in danger of losing to tom cotton. >> i didn't come here to talk about my opponent, but let me take this opportunity to do so. you know, he went to harvard. right? i know. he couldn't get into uca, what can i say? >> the president's unpopular in arkansas. they want you to make it a protest vote. all three of the races they're saying you may like the guys,
but hey, you know what you have to do. you have to vote against the president. it's a pretty good scam, isn't it? >> reporter: arkansas had just one republican in congress and now pryor is the last democrat left. >> people like my parents used to vote democratic. but now the obama democrats in washington no longer represent arkansas's conservative values. >> is this still the arkansas you governed? >> oh, i think so. i think we've got a really good chance. i think he's run a great campaign, i think he -- i expect him to win. >> can he win this race for you? >> i have got to win this race on my own. >> reporter: if there's one thing they agree on it, might be bill clinton. >> i think a lot of arkansans look back on the clinton years like the obama years and view them favorably. >> president clinton, can i get a selfie? >> wow. >> with us is -- nobody draws them like bill clinton. certainly not in arkansas.
but this race has been up in the air. i said a couple of hours ago i thought tom cotton to be up by ten points now. but it's a lot closer. what keeps pryor close and what makes democrats think they can still win this race? >> reporter: it's a couple of factors, joe. this is a democratic state for decades. only recently it's finally started to slip away from the southern democrats and at this point, mark pryor still has a ton of goodwill from his father, david pryor, who is very close do former president bill clinton and bill clinton himself has been really engaged here. you know, he noted in his speech, hey, this isn't the only time i have been down here to arkansas. he's been back for three funerals, coming back for his high school reunion. he's still very connected to it. and if there's anybody that can make a difference for mark pryor it's bill clinton. that's what you're soing over -- seeing over the next few days.
>> what did you see down there? >> well, i travelled with tom cotton on saturday. i'm upset with the pryor campaign, he's a wonderful man. i asked what events, and they wouldn't tell me. >> that's weird. >> but aside from that -- >> okay. you have vented. >> aside from that, pryor is a very decent, lovely man. cotton is, you know, -- is moving with the trends down there. i saw him on saturday talking to a gun rally and saying that the right to bear arms was not just a constitutional right, but a god-given right. >> oh, my. >> and -- >> well, you obviously, it's the 11th commandment. >> yeah. >> okay. >> or the 12th maybe. >> so it's a very conservative state, but arkansas still a little different than let's say alabama or mississippi or tennessee.
there's still sort of -- >> yeah. >> more of the yellow dogs still running around in the south. >> one thing i noticed when talking about north carolina a little while ago, i was there as well on my road trip and the thing that -- that's keeping the democrat afloat there is the fact that tillis' legislature cut education funding. and in north carolina, there is a long, moderate tradition, 50 years since terry sanford of boosting education as a way to bring in industry. >> you know, i'll tell you what, for conservatives who are shocked when i say this, i mean, you've got to look at the tea leaves this year. this is in many ways i think a -- an election where the warning flags -- if they haven't gone up for republicans already, they need to go up on issues education and tax cuts. you can cut education to pay for tax cuts, you need to talk to
sam brown back, it's not paying anymore for republican. this tax cuts at all costs mentality, if brownback goes down, this as the center plank for the republican party -- >> i agree with joe scarborough on this one. i think you see two states now, north carolina and kansas are education cuts are paying heavily in the democrats' favor. what's interesting about a arkansas you have obamacare there and i'm curious what casey can tell us about how that -- obviously, medicaid expansion has insured a lot of people. i think arkansas has the steepest drop in the uninsurance rate in the country. casey, did you pick up anything from this? >> yeah, president clinton actually offered a pretty row
best defense of the president's health care law. which was interesting to me. following senator pryor's campaign. it is something they have tried to kind of run on a little bit. they have the one ad sort of praising obamacare and then they backed away from it. i think it illustrates this broader problem that he has in dealing with president obama. president clinton alluded to it, noting that president obama was unpopular in arkansas. and i asked pryor about the ebola crisis yesterday and i think it illustrates the problem he has here in the ad talking cotton. this is what he had to say. >> do you think that the obama administration has done an appropriate job handling the ebola crisis? >> um, i would say that it's hard to know because i haven't heard the latest briefing on
that to know all -- i read the paper and all, but my impression is that we have people over there, both from cdc and other medical type people and even some engineers to try to build, you know, medical facilities. that's what they need over there. they need the medical infrastructure. >> have we been aggressive enough in helping these people? >> um, again, i have to see the latest numbers. >> wow. >> stop it. stop it. stop it! stop it! >> what? >> just stop. >> you're like -- >> throw in the towel, casey, what was going on there? >> nice, gentle question. >> i'm not sure. i thought he would have a yes or no answer. but -- >> could i -- >> what was that, casey? >> she asked a gentle question. she was just being honest and the guy just collapsed. >> you were there, why were the questions so hard for the senator to answer? >> well, you know, like i said,
i was a little surprised that they were so difficult because he had aired this out on ebola late in august. accusing his opponent tom cotton of not doing enough to fight global pandemics. i -- >> you thought that was a softball? >> -- for that ad. >> news of the day question. >> joe klein? >> compare and contrast on saturday i asked cotton about ebola and he immediately said we have to shut down flights from that region because -- and this was the brilliant part, because the terrorists might send people infected with ebola over here. and, you know, when you think of boko haram, i think that deals to the sense of fear in the last three weeks -- >> that was an answer. >> a professional answer even if it was -- >> sam stein, you brought up the
ad that senator pryor had used before on ebola. >> yeah. >> trying to blame tom cotton for it. he was very critical and yet to have him stammer there with casey, pretty stunning. i mean, it's painful to watch. >> yeah. and the answer is pretty self-explanatory from mark pryor's perspective. go back to the facts of the ad. the budget for the centers for disease control has been cut by $600 million from 2010 to 2014. listen, the republican party and the austerity movement has cut cdc funding, but he stammered and couldn't come one the word, it was really awkward. i would say cotton referencing ebola patients and sending them across the border -- >> well, split screen with the kick boxing kangaroos -- >> no, no. let's watch this quickly. >> can you guys play it again? >> how do you say no mas in kangaroo? >> stunning.
>> do you think that the obama administration has done an appropriate job handling the ebola crisis? >> um, i would say that -- it's hard to know because i haven't heard the latest briefing on that to know all the -- i read the paper and all, but my impression is we have people over there, both from cdc and other medical type people and even some engineers to try to build, you know, medical facilities. that's what they need over there. they need the medical infrastructure. >> do you think we've been aggressive enough in -- >> um, again, i have to see the latest numbers. >> oh, my god. casey hunt, you have done it again. >> what is wrong with you? >> she is so mean. >> you're cruel. >> she asks such simple questions. >> it's a trap.
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welcome back to "morning joe." there's outrage in one new jersey town this morning after a high school canceled the rest of the high school football season amid a hazing investigation. seniors on the team intimidated and bullied freshmen, including some acts that could be considered sexual assault. >> this district, in this board of education is making unified stance to say no. no to bullying. >> last night school officials in sayerville, new jersey, announced they will cancel the remainder of the football season. from freshmen to versety squads. the drastic measure less than a week after widespread allegations of hazing by senior team members towards freshmen, including severe bullying and possible sexual assault. >> there were incidents of
harassment and bullying that took base on a pervasive level, a wide scale level, and at a level in which the players knew, tolerated and in general accepted. >> the cancellation comes as schools nationwide are cracking down against bullying. >>. >> i'm not satisfied with the way we handled it from the get-go. >> meanwhile, in sayerville -- >> it's unfair for the kids that didn't have nothing to do with it. >> the community itself is like family. >> you're still proud of this community? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> it's just very devastating. it's very sad for the parents and the players. >> wow. >> no players have been suspended from school as the investigation goes on. there are questions about the role the coaches played. the superintendent said he asked the the assistant principal at the school to look at the sports
team and their protocols. they have a pretty good football program. >> so obviously for those of us -- i started playing football when i was 6. now play it your whole life. a lot of these kids, football has been their life for a decade. they get to senior year and because of the hazing, they're not going to have a senior year. this will impact them for years to come. >> why not just punish the people that were committing the mistakes, instead of the entire team. >> i sympathy in the context of everything going on in with the nfl and everything else, they want to make a big statement. it also includes the cheerleader and the band. all these people have their season completely wiped out. >> yeah, but to me it sounds like that's the leadership the nfl could use. >> they won three state titles in four years, then these seniors who were freshmen, this is behavior they've seen
cultivated over a certain period of time. >> it would have to be widespread, i would think, mike. to cancel the entire season. >> that's a huge crisis. >> for people that understand these kids, over a decade, their entire life, and the parents and the family every friday night. >> yeah. yeah. >> and so i'm just wondering and again, it does start at the top. those coaches should never coach again in jersey. >> if they knew. >> yeah, up next, a great poll showing a surjs of support for democrats across the country. is there any connection to president obama remaining off the campaign trail? plus, the most expensive hotel ever sold. who is buying the waldorf and what they plan to do with it and whatnot to send your kid today
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in most of these jurisdictions now, same-sex marriage will be de facto legal. >> now we're in a situation where 30 states have same-sex marriage. the momentum when you have that many people living in a world
where same-sex marriage is legal makes it inevitable, it seems, that the rest of the country will follow. >> inevitable that the rest of the country will follow. well, i guess that's it. i would like to thank my wife lorain for 25 good years. what can i say? we gave it a ghood shot, honey. i was just about going to get a photo of you. and i was going to announce my new governor appointed life partner, roger and i are registered at restoration hardware. we're doing the entire living room in hammered stainless steel. >> good morning, everybody. it's tuesday, october 7th. look at that times square. it's already buzzing. or still is. with us onset, we have msnbc contributor, associate professor at columbia university school of international and public affairs
along with willie, joe and me. >> yeah. what's up? we need to talk about what we're going to wear before we wear it. >> just get it out of the way here. >> it's ha holiday party. >> it's still october. what's going on? >> i don't know. i don't like this. >> this is just not going to work. >> i'm sorry. i'm going to change. i'll be right back. you read the news. i'll be right back. >> don't change. i like that sweater. it doesn't look like it's going to walk away. >> i'm going to get another. read the news, mika. i'm sure there's a lot to talk about. >> it's the first time he actually wore a different -- all right. okay. well, he's gone. let's do the news, shall we? >> i can't believe it. >> i like the holiday look. >> i thought it looked good, you know. just trying to make it up a little built. if you believe the latest polling, can you guys believe this? has a very real chance at
unseating the top republican in the senate. this didn't look like it could happen until now. according to a new kentucky bluegrass poll, grimes leads mcconnell 46 to 44%. that's within the four-point margin of error. a month ago mcconnell was up by eight points. it's not the only race, by the way, where the democrats are showing strength. we're seeing this in a couple of other key places. north carolina, kay hagan has a four-point lead. but she's leading. the race in kansas, already starting to look out of reach for incumbent pat roberts. he's down by 10% to independent greg orman. in colorado, mark udall has a three-point edge of corey garner. that's close to a toss-up. he was leading by eight points at one point.
last month jeanne shaheen. and in iowa where two weeks ago joni ernst was leading by six, she's now tied with democrat bruce braley. i don't know. you think that the president is such a hint rans as the narrative has been, dorian. and yet we're seeing something possiblily happening here if you believe the polls. >> and we haven't seen the clintons in action by the way. >> we're going to talk about that. >> that mr. make a difference. it's hard to figure out, is this an anti-incumbency wave, or is this something the democrats are doing in terms of campaign strategy that republicans are not? it remains to be scene. >> particularly remarkable. grimes looked like she was starting to slip away. she had done so well for several month ls. you saw mcconnell getting some distance. so she closed the gap now with a
month left to go. and as you say, that whole campaign has been about pairing her with president obama, and now here she is tied. >> i find that to be extremely interesting to watch. in alaska, mark begich has been losing ground to sullivan. tom cotton has a slight edge on pryor in arkansas. and the cbs news "new york times" poll has louisiana senator mary landrieu down by six points to really bill kasz di. so there we're seeing a fight for senator mary landrieu. the comeback kid, as you mentioned, is looking to help democrats in his hometown state. former president bill clinton returned to arkansas to headline rallies for mark pryor. clinton urged votered to reject republican efforts to make the elections about president obama. >> you cannot afford to do what
their opponents want. they want you to make this a protest vote. all three races. they're saying you may like these guys, but you got to vote against the president. it's your last shot. it's a good scam, isn't it? i may wander and roam, but i will never be far from home. you're in my heart, and you will always be, arkansas, you run deep in me. vote your heart. don't tell you for what they tell you you have to be against. vote for what you know you should be for. vote for mark pryor. vote for mike ross. vote for pat hayes. and you will be happy a mon from now. thank you and god bless you. >> boy, he's really something, isn't he? >> yes, you are. >> i love that guy. >> could he be any happier? >> please don't do this. just don't do it. stop. >> and what about mitch
mcconnell, huh? he's down. >> yes, i mentioned that at the top of the show when you walked away. i was excited about your reaction. but you just left. i'm going to do that. i'm going to try that. why? i thought we looked good. >> i didn't want to hear andy williams holiday song. we were coordinating our sweaters before the show, it's a showing. if you look what's happening with mitch mcconnell. we were all asking, what were the polls going to look like? the first wave of polls after the beheadings. after barack obama went out golfing after the beheading specifically. and now we're starting to see a big turnaround in kentucky. you look at north carolina. big turnaround. republicans were sure ap month ago this is going to be a wave election. it may still be. you just don't see any evidence
of it out there. democrats are doing so much better now than they should be doing. and republicans are now going to lose kansas. >> what do you make of kentucky? i don't see it as related to isis. do you? is that what is happening here? >> all democrats were hurt a month ago by barack obama's seeming obliviousness to what was going on with isis. and the jv comments and golfing after the beheading. but i think you're starting to see these races go back to their set point. and the set point is a lot of kentucky people can't relate to mitch mcconnell. they may not agree with grimes in a lot of issues, but they just can't relate to mitch mcconnell. >> and she and other candidates have run smart campaigns distancing themselves from the president.
as the former president bill clinton said in arkansas, this is not a vote for barack obama. this is a vote for mark pryor or london grimes or other particular candidates. this should have republicans worried for 2016. they have a lot more seats to defend in 2016. >> i'm sorry. i was just going to say clinton's comments were interesting, too. he said this is just two more years of president obama. he's almost saying don't worry. it's only two more years. but these guys are aplaying for six-h year jobs. so don't make this about president obama. >> oh, my gosh. >> he's very, very good. >> if you talk to any republican strategist six months ago, a year ago and said a month before the election you're going to be losing kwst by ten. to an independent candidate. and you're going to be losing north carolina. in some polls you're going to be
losing louisiana. arkansas is going to be split down the middle. i can tell you as republicans we're screwed. >> iowa is tied right now. >> and the democrat out in iowa is a clown. i mean, democrats say quietly, that guy is a clown. he's ill fit for kansas. he goes to texas and say, the last thing we want is somebody from iowa, a dumb ass iowa farmer is basically what he's saying. >> well -- >> although i would say, joni ernst commercials -- >> the the castration candidates. >> i those were brilliant before. clearly iowa voters are thinking something else now. >> i don't know. i think if you look at the trend, it's all against the republicans right now. there are exceptions. scott walker, a guy i like very much. a great hope for a lot of conservatives like myself. he may not win this year. >> he's being investigated for
corruption scandal. >> go a state over to michigan. one tough nerd. the governor of michigan. a year ago everything looked great. now he's on the run. and here's the thing, this is what republicans need to understand. you got to stand for something. you can't just be against barack obama. and the problem is. if the republicans can't win. and priebus will say this. if the republicans can't win in 2014 when everything is breaking their way. when they were fighting in red states, then in 16 all the senate fights are going to be on blue states, plus the presidential race. r is going to be especially ugly. >> yeah. let me get one other headline in here. officials are now confirming the first case of ebola to be contracted outside of west africa. a nurse in spain is in stable condition at a hospital this morning after testing positive for the deadly virus.
officials say she cares for two spanish priests who boelt died from ebola. the parents of ashoka mukpo said he's in good spirits after arriving in omaha for treatment. dr. nancy sneiderman and her team arrived in the united states and were checked by a health pishl upon ail rival. all are feeling well, in good health. they're deemed low risk but will are be be staying home and monitoring their temperature for the remainder of the 21-day period. and in dallas, the man being treated for the ebola virus remains in critical condition. we've learned thomas eric duncan is being given an experimental drug approved by the fda. president obama says his administration is working on increased screening for ebola. it comes as a new research poll finds nearly 60% of americans have a great or fair amount of
confidence the government could prooent an ebola outbreak in the u.s. but there's a sharp divide among parties. 69% of democrats share the confidence. 51% of republicans have little or no krz in the u.s. government in terms of how it could stop an outbreak. i think screening will be difficult. i don't know how they're going to do it. the it's not just about cutting off flights. >> willie, what do you make of the poll we just talked about? is this -- >> it looks like it's about president obama. it looks like just a blind referendum. it's strange that became a political question. >> i think it's a lot of things. obamacare, irs. a lot of things that made us think, do you guys do anything? >> i think democrats feel the same way. how is george w. bush handling the outbreak, yould see the numbers flip.
this becomes split call. zblf it's strange, isn't it? >> and the government at the local level versus the federal level. especially since president obama has been in office. that's not unusual, the broad trends. but it is strange around ebola. >> coming up on "morning joe." as the white house plans new airline screening procedures to minimize the threat of ebola, we'll look at how one key american city is handling the the crisis. plus, michael bloomberg gets knighted by the queen. but don't call him sir just yet. speaking of sir, he always wants us to call him that. he always wants him to call us -- what is that? can we say it on the air? >> yeah, he loves that. it's better than what you could have gone with, i guess. good morning, everyone. including joe and mika. blood moon. have you heard the term? we're going to have one later tonight. all it means is we get these lunar eclipses with pretty much
the full moon. we get the refraction of the light off the earth. because of the dust and the dirt. it looks ret oud there during the eclipse. this is going to happen tomorrow morning very early. if you're on the east coast, a lot of clouds. but around 5:15 to 8:15. the best viewing will be the west coast around 3:30 to 4:30 in the morning. the next one will happen in april. we get four of these in two years. that doesn't usually happen. e back to weather. i mentioned the clouds blocking the view of the lunar eclipse in the east. a large amount of clouds and rain to the east. heaviest rains are in h northern new england. a a batch over north carolina. and pretty good amount of showers and thunderstorms between memphis and cape gerardo on the mississippi river. that could clip the memphis area shortly. and in nashville, we have rain for you. and new york city, southern new
england, and coastal jersey a line of strong storms will go there. gusty winds could bring down trees and maybe an isolated tornado. very weird scenario for you. if you're west of the mississippi, you're looking rather nice today. the exception being arizona. we leave you with a shot. can you believe this? the rink is back. they're making the ice. getting ready for the holiday season. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.
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it did not say that. >> holy cow. like a cashew. >> first time i've heard that expression. >> so we have -- we're reading -- >> no. >> stories from local -- >> time to take a look at the morning papers that you care about. the los angeles times. pope francis called a meeting of 200 cardinals and bishops in rome to consider controversial issues for the church. including divorce, contraception and homosexuality. and he has encouraged attendees to speak openly and freely. the group will discuss a survey of catholics worldwide, have found many feel the church is out of touch with their needs. >> "the new york times" historic warks aldorf-astoria hotel will
be sold to. it opened 83 years also. it will also undergo a big renovation. the wlean says they plan to return the building to the arjal art deco clothing style. >> h&m has come under fire for a khaki jumpsuit which many say resembles the uniforms worn by female members of the kurdish militia. >> i like khaki on women is this story? kbl would you wear that? i kind of like it. >> if you could, would you wear that? >> sure. >> oh, the one on the right, with the gun and the hat. >> well. reaction has been mixed with some saying it celebrates the
females fighting the islamic state in syria. others say it's insensitive. what? i just know the designer was not thinking kurdish militia. >> what's the next story? >> come on. moving on. that's stupid. anybody arguing that has no life. >> just about anything. i read the delaware news journal every morning. >> then you already have read this story. but i'll say it again. the delaware news journal. police have arrested the mother of a 4-year-old after the kid showed up to her day care with a backpack full of heroin. the little girl was caught handing out packets of the drugs to her classmates thinking they were candy. the mother has been charged with drug possession and endangering the welfare of her child. >> what in the world? >> it's heroin? >> i never ever send jack to school with heroin. with packets of heroin. >> what do you send him to
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oh. that's not good. the train comes through cutting the trailer in half. the driver escaped unharmed. >> i wish we could show that in slow motion. >> they suffered minor injuries. residents in the area have been evacuated due to concerns over a gas spill. >> my goodness. >> up next, the eyes of the nation continue to be on dallas where the first ebola patient to be diagnosed in the u.s. is in critical condition. the mayor of dallas. >> and we have a power house economic round table coming up this morning. >> yes, we do. powerful. >> money dudes, willie. wall street is riding high while middle america is struggling to find its footing. what's it like being an sbrerp neurotoday? much more "morning joe" straight ahead. ♪
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28 past the hour. the terror threat of isis is now at the doorstep of a top american ally in the middle east. the front page of the wall street journal shows islamic state militants planting their flag near syria's border with turkey. it follows fierce battles between kurdish and isis
fighters. it now appears they're poised to take control. meanwhile, an american teenager has been arrested after trying to board a connecting flight to turkey with the intent of sneaking into syria and fighting with isis. the 19-year-old left a handwritten three-page letter to his parents begging them not to alert the authorities, while saying, quote, we are all witness that the western societies are getting more immoral day by day. >> syria, obviously, still under siege by isis, and now turkey who sat back and done nothing. now they are having isis knock at their o doorstep. this is going to be a real wakeup call to our alliance with turkey and our relationship with turkey. isis is now on the turkish border. turkey is a member of nato. if the president and the turks need help, they have to go
through nato to get help. we'll see what happens there. it's a disgrace. it's just a disgrace. >> yeah. they are not a strong ally. we don't have a lot of strong allies. >> in other news this morning, the first person diagnoseded with the ebola virus in the united states remains in critical condition. thomas eric duncan is being treated with an experimental drug in dallas. it comes as texas republican governor rick perry is forming a 17-person task force to focus on the current ebola outbreak, and how the state responds to other infectious diseases. and president obama says his administration is now working on increased screening for ebola at airports here in the u.s. and overseas, but he is resisting calls to impose any travel restrictions. joining us now from dallas, the city's mayor, mike rawlings.
good to have you on the show. >> great to be here. i watch you all the time, so it's fun for me. >> thank you. that's great. >> tell us, mr. mayor. you've been talking about this quite some time about what happened. but tell us how the hospitals across dallas and across texas have changed since the mistake. >> well, i'll tell you, everybody was trained in august. we had this incident, which is a agreement hospital. my daughter was born there. i had a close friend that had a baby there this weekend. everybody has been retrained, doubled up, and they know everybody is overanalyzing the situation now. that's okay to make sure the hospitals don't miss anybody. and we've got all individuals that had contact with the patient, we're checking them twice a day.
and hopefully we'll find any symptoms before they get there. >> let me tell you about the the fear factor in dallas and the country. there's la lot of information out there about isis. how is that impacting or affecting the citizens of dallas? >> i assume you're talking about ebola, not isis. >> ebola, yeah. isis is scary, too. >> yeah, i was thinking about turkey. >> that's all right. i think we're calm. we're sitting on pins and needles. but we had an all-time hoping of our state fair over the last week. and 92,000 people showed up to the cowboys game. i went to a big oktoberfest. people are out and about. this is a great time to be in dallas. the weather is good.
i don't see any pulling back on that. folks are going to school. but we're serious. this is a very tough issue. but i think it's only the mean people creating some of this -- some of this fear. >> let's talk about the incubation period. this is the critical week, as you pointed out, where people who came in contact with thomas eric duncan could show any type of symptom ls. no one was showing any signs. but we had ten people who had contact with duncan who are considered high risk. so explain exactly what the monitoring process is for those ten people. well, basically each -- we've got a couple of dozen people tracking, around 48 people and we visit with them every day.
they look at the temperature. they ask how they're feeling. they look at them from a health standpoint and give them a little checkup. and so every morning i'll get a report. we have one today at noon. so it's turning over a big blackjack card when i get the report to make sure they're healthy. >> mayor mike rawlings, thank you for being on the show. thank you for watching. >> thank you, mr. mayor, we'll have to drop by in dallas next. >> please do. >> we're you're in new york, come on the show. >> i would love to. >> still ahead, barack obama says the economy is stronger than it ever has been during his presidency. we're going to fact check that with our powerhouse economic round table straight ahead. plus, why one of our panelists says crazy is a compliment. >> i'm with him.
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start building your confident retirement today. all right, here with us now for our business roundtable, cnbc's brian sullivan. it's good to see you. >> oh, stop being sarcastic. >> even if your enthusiasm is fake, it is appreciated. >> ceo and managing partner of q ball. i can't wait. >> least going to do my nails. apparently he's going to do a lot of nail ls. we're going to get that later. i'm not one of those people. oh, it's bad. it's bad. >> who has time? >> the author of crazy is a compliment, the problem with zigging while everyone else zags. >> i love that. >> you just complimented joe.
>> any time people come with an idea and say it's crazy -- >> exactly, if they're not calling you crazy, you're not thinking big enough. >> i'm reading the new google book. he said things move so quickly. if you're not being called crazy every week or month, tyou're going to be left behind. >> we can do nothing and hope our jobs are safe, or we can take risks. the riskier strategy is to do nothing. the reason i wrote crazy is a compliment is to bottle up my experience working with a thousand entrepreneurs to help people who have a dream but are feeling scared or stuck and create a road map for helping them go guard. >> so brian, we have, in the united states of america, a congress and a political structure that is just the
opposite of crazy in the good way. we're not doing anything to move this economy forward. >> no, we're not. >> and we'll have the pleasure of all kinds of great people, successful people. they have nothing in common, except for one thing. they all have this amazing ability to take risks and believe in yourself. congress is all about consensus. either it's red state or blue state. somebody is going to have to zag. >> and they're scared of their own shadow. >> yes, they are. >> that comes because we have a rough time in the economy. wanes haven't moved. jobs were very hard to come by. we're getting a little bit of a change in the overall economy. >> we got about a quarter million net jobs created. a lot of those didn't go where
we needed them. they didn't go to women. they didn't go to younger people. i think one of the things we're proud of. they have nearly 200 employees today. >> did you just use starbuck as a verb? >> he did, didn't he? you're starbucking a nail salon. >> trying to transform something mundane. the 65,000 nail salons in this country. $8 billion reported. it's probably closer to $14 billion. we need professional standards. >> right now it seems like a lot of people are intrigued. that's amongst the highest in the last decade. it's not going to things more mundane. the service economy. the service economy. the independent workers.
>> and what i think i love is it's not just technology where entrepreneurship is thriving. most people starting businesses are women and baby boomers over 55. we just don't hear their stories. and your point, entrepreneurship is not just entrepreneurs anymore. we haul need the skills of change making. >> and what you're talking about cannot be outsourced. you cannot amazon -- can i use that has a a verb? you cannot amazon nail care. you need people. and we hear from both parties. that's not true. new businesses are job creators. and so, yesterday i talked to a neighbor. and asked how is paul simon?ç but it's a guy that has a business. he's a small business owner.
mom and pop shop. runs it out of his house. and i ask him what i always ask with restaurants and businesses in the town. >> they all say the same thing? this month was good. last month was bad. the month before was so-so. the month before was terrible. the month before was agreement. i'm hearing this from all small business owners. they can't make plans because it's um and down. we have a schizophrenic consumer. >> and your neighbor will continue to say that until we have real wage gains. >> if it goels down. >> this is the next election. >> one of the issues around there is we're so focused on the demand side and not supply side. and what we need to do is focus
on them. be focused with the authentic crazy person was self care. only then can you get the predictability of revenue. the problem is trying to focus on the profit and performance. you need to start with product. >> so linda, how do you describe the the schizophrenic economy? you have unemployment below 6%. and that's because people have given up looking for jobs. and chaos favors the entrepreneur. but entrepreneurs are not about the farm. we imagine them going all in. entrepreneurs are risk minimizeers. so three facts i point out in crazy is a compliment. number one, you don't have to go all in. 50 pk 50% of the fastest growing companies start with under $5,000. the best innovators keep their
day jobs while they're starting their ideas. the founder of nike did taxes for ten years. you need to balance between taking risks and doing risk. deal with chaos. >> people are scarred, right? they're scared, too. i'm not going to leave my job where i feel secure after what just happened to start a company. >> that's why sho many are 20-year-olds. if they fail, they're okay. if you're 40 with a couple of kids and a mortgage, you're not starting a business. i've known tony two years now. i can't imagine him being a nail man. thank you so much. tony, greatly appreciate it. >> thank you so much for coming in. and the book is crazy is a
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it began as an act of defiance. a way to turn a tragedy into a symbol of hope. 26 playgrounds have been built to honor the 26 victims of the sandy hook elementary school shooting. each one uniquely celebrates the student or teacher who lost their lives. brian williams brings us that story from the site of 26th and final playground. >> reporter: on a startingly beautiful day, happy children swarmed all over the playground dedicated to the principal who died trying to protect her students at sandy hook elementary schooler inially two years ago now. after, there was raw emotion. a reading from a book that dawn loved to read to the children. it was led by one of her daughters. the young children don't understand why this playground
was built, but their faces remind us what it's meant for. >> it is amazing. all 26 of the memorial sandy hook playgrounds are now happy places. they're all scattered around the new york area in towns that also suffered damage from hurricane sandy. >> put my hands in. >> what is your favorite job to watch and favorite job to do yourself? >> my favorite job to do myself is probably the sidewalk. and my favorite job to watch is probably the panels they put on the playstand. >> reporter: and for the other families who lost someone at sandy hook, this project has held so much meaning. >> we became a family with all the firefighters.
>> our angels are looking down at us. looking wow. the final one. it's beautiful. >> the group blind this is a foundation called where angels play. they plan to coop doing this across the country in places where there's been tragedy. like boston, aurora, colorado, and moore, oklahoma. bill laven is the founder of the whole concept. he's a retired new jersey firefighter who told me on the job site last week it doesn't get more personal for him. >> if you close your eyes, can you see all 26? do they all have a special meaning to you? >> every single one has a miracle that has happened. they will work from dawn to dusk and then thank me for allowing them to do all that. but this is our blessing and privilege. >> this september will be two years since the sandy hook
shooting. two years since a disturbed individual was able to get his hands on three semiautomatic weapons. and nothing has been done in congress. and it's not done on the campaign trail with isis, ebola and stagnant wages in the headlines. it's easy for politicians to ignore it for some reason. polls show americans overwhelmingly support background checks on all gun sales. even gun owners support it by a wide margin. 89 to 9%. >> that's straight forward. you start talking about gun control and the numbers drop quickly. >> i'm not sure why gun control, though. it's just a background check. >> i don't know. george w. bush supported background checks. i don't know. mike? we talked about this before.
endlessly. the institutional indifference and lack of courage. it's so depressing. you look at the numbers as we just ind kalted. when you walk a street and talk to ordinary human beings, it's depressing our political institutions don't react. >> having said that, bill laven, the firefighter who came up with that idea. >> what a great idea. >> what a hopeful, beautiful person to find a way to celebrate as well as remember these people. and that was a great piece. that was really nice. >> it's a wonderful thing to do. >> up next, what if anything did we learn today?
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>> what? it's hot sf. >> oh, frazier is down. frazier is down. >> thomas, did you learn anything today? >> i will happily give up my time for this youtube video. >> mike, did you learn anything today? >> i learned unlike what i first thought -- they're notó[/mm as kangaroos. >> i was worried it wasn't real kangaroos. i learned crazy is a compliment. maybe there's hope for you. mike, what -- i also learned the founder of nike continued to work for a decade until -- while he was setting up his business. so what's on tap today in baseball? >> in disable you have two playoff games. the first game this afternoon. tryinging to old on as
cardinals. you think they may pull it off? >> i do. i think they'll win the series. the matchups favor them. and stick around right now. we have peter alexander with the daily rundown. a new ebola case. the first time a patient gets it outside of africa. his treatment continues for patients in omaha and dallas here in the u.s. and president obama considers more measures to screen travelers. plus a major milestone in the same-sex marriage debate. both the republican and democratic national committees with just four weeks left until election day. meantime on the midterm trail, bill clinton is heading home to arkansas. big debates for key races in
and prodding for you to reach and be better than you thought you could. those of us that stand up, those of us that prod america. those of us that march and do what we do peacefully do it because we rae really believe in america. we love america. we want it to be all it can be. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >> hard in the desert. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. we are headed to ferguson tonight but i'm compelled with start with the president's powerful reaction to the beheading of american james foley by the islamist group torturing and killing the way through syria and iraq. >> let's be clear about isil. they have rampaged across cities
and villages, killing innocent unarmed civilians in cowardly acts of violence. they have abducted women and children and subject them to torture and rape and slavery. they have murdered muslims, sunni and shia, by the thousands. they target christians and religious minorities, driving them from their homes. murdering them when they can. for no other reason than they practice a different religion. so isil speaks for no religion. their victims are overwhelmingly muslim. and no faith teaches people to massacre innocence. no just god would stand for what they did yesterday and what they do every single day. >> the die is cast. we want to make war against this
band of killers. do people say with barack obama said today, you will back and allow killers to run free. we just learned earlier this summer the president authorized, he did, an operation to attempt to rescue american citizens kidnapped by isil. howard, many people said today they had never heard obama like this, the president, personally. i don't know how he may have scent actual execution pictures, we don't know. we're not showing them. we don't have them. i don't want to show them. a lot of americans don't want it look at it. this guy was decapitated for no reason other than they want to hurt our country. >> chris, someone close to the president and e-mailed me, from the inside, they have never seen him like that. i certainly from the outside have never seen him like that. i have been covering him ever since i saw him run for senate in the united states. that is barack obama who is not
only shocked, but angry, and determined. the question of course now is, since we are already slowly but surely beginning to ramp up in that region once again, how that anger, how that focus, which none of us i don't think has seen before in public, how that translates into the reality of american involvement, the american military, and in america itself weary of war yet faced with something more gruesome and more vivid than we've ever seen on television and an enemy that knows social media, that knows propaganda in the modern way. that by some government estimates has $2 billion at its disposal. that has real territory and real proto government in the heart of the middle east. not in afghanistan, but in the heart of the middle east. >> watching that execution set-up we were just witness to, they like to push the button and have all of the people killed.
this will cause rage in this country to see the way they did this. here is more from the president today. see how you hear him. >> today the entire world is appalled by the brutal murder of jim foley by the terrorist group isil. jim was a journalist. a son. a brother. and a friend. he reported from difficult and dangerous places bearing witness to the lives of people a world away. he was taken hostage nearly two years ago in syria and he was courageously reporting at the time on the conflict there. jim was taken from us in an act of violence that shocks the conscience of the entire world. >> no matter how we get into this, it is obama's war now. i think he is saying that now. he decapitated this guy on tape to get even with him for starting the were on isis. we have at least one other
person kidnapped. another journalist. they are going to toy with that situation for a while. >> they basically said in so many words that he's next if the president doesn't call off the very limited really offensive that we have mostly from the air in iraq to prevent them from taking control of rifrvers and dams an water facilities. which is one of the methods these people use it gain territory. the message here, chris, the war that we fought a decade ago has produced a more veermt strain of everything we were trying to destroy. now the president, rightly criticized our first war, now has to deal with the consequences that may result in some kind of second one. the definition of which we don't know yet. >> a pain in the butt secular government, no real threat to the world, now fighting an islamic terrorist group which
somehow fed out of this situation. >> that's what i said. i think the president and i think history will show, that president obama was right to oppose the first war as a candidate, coming up and as presidential candidate. but now as president in the last two years of his second term, he has it deal with much more con consequences than he or anybody, including our people, thought would happen. they didn't tell me how bad this was getting this fast, he was blind-sided. if that's true, that's problem in and of itself. when we went in on this mission, when the president authorized the mission in syria to try to rescue american citizens, it turns out the intelligence was bad. the americans were not aware the pentagon was told they were. that's the situation. >> couldn't save them anyway. president obama said americans
will be protect ped. le let's listen to the defensive step he is taking. >> the united states of america will continue to do what we must do to protect our people. we will be vigilant and relentless. when people harm americans anywhere, we do what's necessary to see that justice is done and we act against isil standing along side others. >> i don't know why i use the word justice. this is not appropriate here. this is an attack on our country. we have to react to it. this is this country versus a group that declared war on us. i don't know why word used like we are going to a world court with this. >> especially since he previously in the same statement basically depicted them as killers who -- cold-blooded killers-tsh. >> they all belong in this. >> the question, chris, is the
president, and not in this vehement way, drawn lines in the sand and made verbal commitments before. this president acting this way has to follow through, intangible ways, or consequences for him politically and for the united states frankly, are probably going to be dire. and that's the problem he faces. this is not what he wanted. >> no. >> but he today do it. he did it forcefully today. the question is now what comes next. >> let's bring in andrea mitchell. chief correspondent for nbc news and host of "andrea mitchell reports." andrea, you are so schooled in this. this seems like a new situation. president of the united states called out by the enemy, isil here, saying, look, unless you stand back, stand down, stop attacking us, we will keep beheading americans. this is very personal stuff right now. >> to show you how committed he was to try to rescue james foley
and the other americans, what the pentagon released is that there was a rescue mission earlier this summer with shades of what happened all the way back in the carter years, with failed rescue. they sent in fighter jets and helicopters that landed in northern syria thinking they could rescue the westerners. and we know there were several americans involved. and it failed. there was heavy fighting with isis fighters. and one american pilot was injured in the failed rescue mission. they shows how much the u.s. military and white house has been focussing on this. >> can we decapitate isis? this issius now. such an islamic group. so zealous. it is killing christians. jews, anybody they can get their hands on that's not the kind of
sunni they like. they are killing them. how do you stop them without killing these people we are looking at marching around with the masks on? and why are they wearing masks if they think they are going to win? that's a question i always have with these people. your thoughts? >> the fear has been that isis is different from al qaeda that isis want to control territory. want to rule. that they've been trading some small amounts of oil. dealing as a sovereign state. what we have seen with the effective air power in iraq the last couple of woeeeks that the have been pushed back from mosul. they did lose control of the dam. with more defeats like that, they can be put back on their heels. there is another school of thought they aren't nearly as powerful and not as fearful as has been suggested by what they do to be terrorists, they do horrific things on video, and that is partly how they inspire
fear in people. >> andrea, one of the arguments made, the only way to get rid of these groups is to be done by islamic people themselves. are we going to have people willing to ealmost nate isis, go in there and get rid of these people. sunnis, larger community for example. perhaps in coalition with the kurds and reasonable shiites, go after them. >> that's been the hope. that's what president alluded to today, that middle eastern communities have to rise up, jordan, lebanon, the whole region could be threatened. the criticism has been of the quataris and others, when they were the best fighters in syria, that be careful what you wish for. now they have become the cancer president obama was describing today. >> let me go back to howard fineman and the president here. the president has been the dove. now you good to the case where
they declare war on us. behead them. not just a public insult but a desecration. and the president of the united states knows they did it to him because they went after him. how do you stop what is a mano a mano struggle between this president and an obama war against isil. i don't see it stopping. >> i think the president doesn't think in mano a mano terms. he likes to think of himself. i know he thinks of himself, as a broad-gauged deep guy who plays a long term game. has allies, has a plan. doesn't take it personally. this is the first time i've ever seen him sort of take something personally. >> it is aimed at him. >> chris, there is a school of thought. and some of our people are looking into this. there is a school of thought that says this is exactly what isil want. they want us to engage them. they want us to attack.
their theory is to push our buttons. >> well, we can help them out. >> that's the concern and conundrum -- >> what i've been saying to andrea for a long time now. no american president can survive the nuclear weapons and no american president can survive letting americans be headed on international television with impunity. he has to strike back. as an american. it's in our soul. your thoughts. >> that's exactly what he was saying today. he proved in the past we do go after terrorists. bin laden of course, case in point. there have been other big successes. so the failed rescue mission is not the last. we had assumed and correctly they wouldn't go into syria. wouldn't go on to syrian territory and that was incorrect. they were under operational security doing exactly that and they didn't know where these guys were. they thought they knew because they had been debriefing the french hostages who were released in rape ril.
and they, by the way, released by being ransomed. their government denied it. but they are intermediaries. everyone but the brits and americans were released starting in april. the trickle of others, the danes, spanish, they all got out. except for our people. and that's because we don't pay ransom. >> may god take the soul of james foley. and i mean it. this serious personal stuff. this is about killing good people. thank you andrea. thank you, howard fineman. today, attorney general her eric holder came to ferguson. can attorney general holder assure an angry community that brown's death will be investigated fairly and justly? that the name of the game here. plus, how do you break the cycle of vicious hopelessness, crime and fear.
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welcome back to "hardball." attorney general eric holder arrived if ferguson missouri today meeting with community leaders and family of michael brown. he got an update on the case from fbi agents and federal prosecutors. according to the associated press, while meeting with student at a community college in the area, the attorney general told the group change is coming. he was talking about general relations between the community and local police. attorney general holder spoke broefly with capital ron johnson. who is in charge of security in ferguson. he told him quote, you are the man. attorney general said holder's visit is important for the community. >> i think it will show the people of ferguson, people of st. louis, people of our nation that their voices are heard. >> mean while a grand jury began hearing evidence in the case. prosecutors caution it could be
months before there's any decision on whether to indict the officer darren wilson. some good news tonight. last night saw relative calm on the streets of ferguson. no tear gas used. no molotov cocktails thrown. no shootings. 51 arrests, however mostly for file you're to disperse. people were told to keep moving and didn't. down from 78 people arrested the night before. craig mel sin is there, as he has been so well for all these days. craig, give us a sense of last night. the numbers are 778 down to 47. sounds like things are improving, at least over the last 24 hours. >>. >> reporter: chris, if this is any indication of tonight, i think we will have relative calm. we with have another vantage point. i can show you the scene of this main drag of ferguson. there have been times over the past few days and you've seen that shot, where the streets have been pretty full already.
this is the smallest crowd. this is the quietest crowd we have seen so far. in addition to that, the police presence also the smallest we've seen so far. again, it is obviously early. sun is still up and things can change. based on what we saw last night, looks like we are in for another peaceful night. in fact, it has been eerily quiet over the past, i would say, hour or two. we will see whether that remeans the case. there has been talk that attorney general holder might head to this area after the meeting that you just mentioned with the congressional delegation and meeting with michael brown's family. at this is point, no word on whether the attorney general will be here. >> there was great video shot by protesters. you can see a police officer pointing his semiautomatic at protesters. and he yells at one protester, i
will kill you. i will kill you, he said. the officer refused to give his name. another officer came by and got him to put his gun down. today the st. louis police department said the officers involved with the semiautomatic weapon las been removed from duty and suspended indefinitely. what's the impact of that story as it makes the round? >> here's the thing. you just cleaned that up, too. there was an expletive or two used that we can't say on cable, that happened shortly before cable. semiautomatic rifle. that officer we should note is from st. ann's, a neighboring jurisdiction. we've been talking about the relative peace, relative calm, but if you get out in the crowd and talk to individual protesters, and some of them, they don't have stories that are that extreme but they will tell that you they have, folks who have been out here night after night, they will tell you they have been talked to by police, by law enforcement in ways that
aren't nice. especially when the sun goes down. what is shocking about that is that it was caught on camera. that is not the first time something like that has likely happened here in ferguson over the past few days. that's the first time we have seen it. >> thank you, very much, craig. we will be back with you regularly. you're a great reporter to have out there. joining us right now from san francisco, paul let me ask you about this role. it is hard to read everyone's mind, coming out of their houses after dinner to see what is going on. a hell of an attraction, even if you are dispassionate. and everybody is passionate out there. people want to be noticed. in the good sense. as individual human beings and not dismissed and ignore ped. when a guy's body is laying on the street for five hours, they get the impression we aren't taken as human beings out here.
when you hear the attorney general of the united states in town thinking about whether he will substitute for the local prosecutor, some new form of prosecution, special prosecutor, does that get into the minds of people, generally, do you think? >> it does generally. but it doesn't answer all of the questions and all of the concerns the community is feeling and having the lack of representation with elected officiales with law enforcement and quite frankly, their representation with this grand jury. there is notoriously underrepresented. >> this is a real ush u. >> explain how that happens. if the county is 30% whiter, 30% minority, how do you pick a grand jury? >> they can be done in different ways in different cities. a lot of time those people are volunteers. i know here in california, i speak to many community groups getting people to volunteer and stressing the need to have more
minority representation from the disenfranchised community. i don't know what grand jury looks like but these are concerns we are hearing on the streets as we talk to people about why they are distrustful or not confident that the justice system is going to represent them well in spite of what is going on. we know eric holder is out there. i think that's great. he is showing outstanding leadership here. and that is helping people to feel a some sense of relief that there is a federal review that's going on to address some of their concerns. what holder is doing and what the federal jurisdiction is doing is reviewing the police department to see if possibly there are some civil rights violations in association with that specific police department. and also an independent investigation to determine whether or not criminal charges can be brought against officer wilson. so that does help and does speak
to the concerns that community is expressing an outrage over, over this entire process as it's unfolding in front of us. >> according to "the new york times," witnesses have given very different accounts of how it happened. some disagree on how it started with the struggle between the officer and teen-ager himself michael brown. some say the officer fired his weapon as michael brown was running away. witnesses give investigator sharply different accounts of the killing. some say, michael brown, 18 at the time, moved toward the officer when he was shot down. others say he was not moving and even had his hands up when he kass killed. it'll me what it is like for the grand jury when people come in with different views. they may have different views of the police opposed to civilians.
how do they know the difference between one statement compared to others. >> often times they evaluate testimony just like a jury evaluate evidence and testimony. one of the interesting things about a grand jury is that they hear hearsay evidence. often times they are unable to see the actual witnesses. i would presume in a case like this, the prosecutors would like to get those actual witnesses in front of that grand jury so they can see and hear them to estimate and judge their demeanor because they will get conflicting stories. we heard the con flinflicting stories. one of the interesting things of this process in missouri is that a defendant and officer wilson is allowed to come and testimony in front of them. that can be influential in front of a panel that is in an indictment. it'll be interesting to see what
prosecutors put in front of that grand jury. and that's part of the reason this process is taking so long because there are so many different reports. and keep in mind, we have these separate investigations going on concurrently so while police are canvassing and collecting this information, they are also talking to separate witnesses that saw or heard things about this incident and they want to present as much of that information as possible to this grand jury so that they have evaluated all of the information that prosecutors have on hand before they make a decision. >> paul wab this is "hardball," so i will cut through this a bit. how often does does a grand jury go against what a prosecutor says? do they say, oh, no, we see criminality, we want a trial in court. >> often times they -- they do have conflict. they don't have a lot of conflicts, what i think is particularly of note in this
situation. and actually if every situation where you have a grand jury, this is not the final step. because even if they grand jury comes back and they tell us there is no indictment, there are no constitutional protections for double jeopardy. so there still could be charges and indictment by the federal government as well. that actually does change things. but that grand jury isn't necessarily just going to follow as a knee jerk reaction what prosecutors present to them. although it obviously is very influential. >> i think someone once said, you can get a grand jury to indict a bologna sandwich. >> i have heard that. but not all grand juries want to indict a ham sandwich or bologna sandwich. you still have to do your due diligence. you still have to present a case. you still have to present them with evidence. because they do ask questions often times. they can come back and say there's nothing there that they don't think a crime has been committed and in this case, i believe that the grand jury will
be very much influenced by hearing that officer talking to them and telling his version of the story especially when it's compared against conflicting stories that are coming from the community. we just don't know exactly if we are going to have live witnesses or summations of report. and like i said, because we can accept hearsay evidence we're not sure what prosecutors will present to this grand jury specifically. >> you are a great guest to have on "hardball" tonight. thank you. we needed that richness and background. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> up next, protestes from ferguson. peaceful so far. as craig melvin said. but the big question, will it get violent again tonight like it has in the past p. this is "hardball," a place for politics. [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees.
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set them ablaze. as eugene wrote, the fire this time is about invisibility. brown had no police record. he graduated hospital. given where he had come from, it is hard to do better an easy to do a lot worse. now that streets are filled with rage and rioting must be strongly condemned we can see brown's struggle at least after the smokes clear we will be blind once again. so much for that. how can we fix the problem? well, how about jobs. eugene robinson joins with us congresswoman karen bass, from california, whose district is at the site of the 1992 rodney king riots in los angeles. thank you. i want to start with eugene, congresswoman, because he has been writing about this so well. give us a sense, then respond congresswoman, if you had a congress that believed in action and creating jobs and taking these kids who are 18 years old, regular kids, regular kids, maybe troubled but regular, how do you help them find a career
in this country? >> you know, there's no one sort of magic remedy that -- or one thing that you can do to have guaranteed success. it takes a more holistic approach. there are lots of factors involved. education, employment, transportation, housing, health. a lot of things. one idea i had actually is you know, you've got to have jobs. where are the blue collar jobs that generations use. >> we were comparing notes about people who live if big cities. two generations ago for sure. maybe one. you could come out of high school with a c or b average. get a job at the plant and provide for a family. >> exactly. >> and you have job security and good wage. you can send your kids to college. and you would have a pension when you retire. >> and now? >> now those jobs don't exist. that's a fairy tale. it doesn't happen. especially doesn't happen in impoverished and increasingly forgotten neighborhood possess. let's have an infusion of capital. where is it going to come from? one idea i have is you've got
these hundreds of billions of dollars corporations are keeping overseas. why not a tax holiday for bringing that money back in you invest it in communities like these that need that investment. >> congresswoman, your thoughts. i know you people on hill, especially the caucus, which is the nickname for the black caucus of course, worry about this stuff. but the humphrey hawkins bill comes out, different budget bill coming out for the black caucus. the reality that gene talks about. the only business plan is the drug dealer coming down the street saying i have a neighborhood for you to cover. that an awful way to put it. but who else is coming down the street for a plan for you if you're a young kid. >> you're right in terms of the congressional black caucus has a jobs plan that they've put forward every year. every year we put forward alternative to the budget. but if we had that dream world where both houses of congress being with democrats, first thing we would do is to pass the president's jobs plan. of which he had that would have
directly impacted the inner city. there were proposals in there for job training. proposals to rehab houses. if we look at it, we know that infrastructure is one of the first places to go. but there's other things that have to happen too. and all the years that we incarcerate sewed many people, you know, we've blocked people from employment by banning employment if you have a felony or record. if you look at the arrest record, not only are there not jobs right now but a lot might be prohibited if they are working jobs. >> marion berry, a lot of people have mixed feelings of him. but one thing he did was give kids summer jobs. you wouldn't hang around convenient stores shoplifting if you have an income and you're proud of yourselves snpz the summer jobs program had a huge impact in d.c. a lot of people say, that was my first job.
marion berry gave me my first job. >> gave me my first job. >> really? tell us about it. >> i got a job with ceda. my first job not with the anniversary on the war on poverty we talked to members of congress and there were a lot of us that got our first jobs through those programs. that's a perfect example of what we can do now. >> what if congress would come back and give a passioned speech, which i'm sure you can do, about this case. let's not talk about the police that's part of the problem. let's not talk about the justice, that's up to the jury. but let's talk about it economically. kids grow up in the economically wrong neighborhoods. do not have a break coming to them. >> right. absolutely. you know what, i have no problem making that impassioned speech. bun thing i believe we will do is that we will have a special order hour where you know we can
speak on the floor after votes on the monday when we get back. the congressional black caucus does that fairly routinely. but there is a lot that we can do. as you know, los angeles went through this 22 years ago, you have theunder are lying bent up rage that happens in the cities and then have you a spark that ignites it and you have ferguson today. >> let's get back to the president. the congresswoman says the bill has a bill. i've never been impress bed it. it doesn't seem to be macro economic big time enough. you have to ask for what you want. i tell young kids, ask for what you want. they will give you what they can give you. ask for what you want. i don't think there's enough there. >> i'm with you on the theory, you don't ask for nothing, you don't get nothing. that's the way of the world. >> you ask for a penny, they won't give you two pennies. >> you go big and ask for what you can get.
>> white people got a lot of jobs from the government. and the ccc and nra. compared to the minority community today. and they got jobs. and nobody complained. everybody wanted those jobs. >> the sad thing is, we know our infrastructure is crumbling all across the country. in los angeles we add major water break at ucla. there is so much we could be doing if the political will was there. >> you ought to ride the roads of washington more, like i do. it feels like you're on a bug board. thank you so much congresswoman. and thank you gene for writing so well for us. up next, former virginia governor from the blind to the ridiculous. get to the corruption trial. he is blaming his wife. part of the soap opera defense. exposing the personal details of what he claims to be, claims to be a troubled marriage. this is "hardball," a place for politics. de of.
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in what defense attorneys said would be the centerpiece of their case, bob mcdonnell took the stand in his own defense in his corruption trial in richmond, virginia. prosecutors tried to convince the jurors that he and his wife
tried to exchange gifts for wheeling and dealing. if convicted of those charges, the couple could face a minimum of 30 years in prison many in today's defense, the strategy appears to be this. show that his wife unhappiness and their broken marriage itself was proof that the former virginia governor and his first lady didn't work together to squeeze money from a wealthy businessman. mcdonnell testified his wife wasn't so happy when he was elected governor, was tense at being first lady and yelled at him the very next morning after wing the election. mcdonald testified on the hardships of running for office and the emotional and fine toll it can take on a family. for more of what happened in court today -- robert, first of all, the defense, no this wasn't bribery, we weren't taking these watches and all these trips and rides and all that stuff. we weren't doing that because we wanted to. we were doing that because my wife had a crush on this guy.
she wanted to spend time with him. she was spending time so she could spend time. now it seems to me my wife's hysterical. what's the defense? >> i think the idea is, she starts out hysterical, and she's not ready for prime time. she's not ready to be the first lady of virginia, she's worried about what she's going to wear and doesn't feel like she's up to it. later, we'll hear this tomorrow, when he talks more about the marriage, mcdonnell talks more about the marriage, tomorrow we'll hear about how they grew apart and she was supposedly doing all this wheeling and dealing behind the scenes with this businessman and he supposedly didn't know anything about it. >> i'm trying to cut through this from the rational to the irrational, there is a rational explanation of why a woman who's just become first lady would argue when she has the big inaugural ball every tv camera is watching her, and she shows up in a dress she's been wearing for ten years, there is that
concern that she had something special for the occasion opinion. >> they didn't have the money, they were $70,000 in credit card debt. she was disappointed that his salary in public service hadn't been so high, and they had these debts that we now learned about from the real estate investments that had gone bad, and i think she was worried, clearly about cutting the right figure and dressing right, and acting right. on the big stage in the executive mansion. >> let's cut to the chase in terms of how this case will be decided. will it not be decided by a jury that's watching all of this stuff? the hogwash and the reality and everything else? was this guy paid off? >> yeah, i think -- >> did he do something because they were giving him money and watches or did he just say fine i'll take that stuff from you, but i'm still going to be a good governor? >> he's emphasizing he didn't
give anything out of the ordinary to johnny williams. i think this whole strategy is a big gamble. he's trying to come across as mr. upright. mr. straight shooter. he had a priest testify today who had been his college roommate at notre dame, came in and testified about what an upright guy he was, that's half the case. the other half they're systematically tearing down the reputation of his wife. that doesn't look good, and i think those two things are sort of intentioned with each other, and i wonder how the jury's going to make sense out of it. >> you can argue, what else was he going to say? >> this is it. he con the say, i didn't take the watch, they have to picture him with the watch, the clothes and all this stuff was accepted. stipulated at will. >> this may be, clearly they think this is the best defense they've got. i don't feel like the two halves hang together. >> are you going to believe me or your lying eyes.
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if you're waiting for me to act the role of d.a., judge or juror, keep waiting, i don't have the authority. it will be difficult enough finding the truth through what appears to be conflicting accounts. finding the facts of the case,
what actually happened is the central matter for the district attorney and the grand jury to decide. what i will insist on is that every human life be treated as a human life, valued as one of god's children. i don't know why a man, whatever the circumstances of his death should have his body lying in the street for five hours. i do not accept the fact that a police officer, no matter how scared can resort to anger if that was the case, not when he's got a gun in his hand. we will have to learn as best we can to learn the truth of this tragedy in ferguson. let's remember, this country began when a future president served as a brave defense attorney for the british soldiers in the boston massacre. that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us. all in with chris hayes starts right now.
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>> for surveillance flights. drones overseeria to gather intelligence on what is going on. the administration, we are going to take a look at all of the flip-flopping right now. because last thursday we actually heard this is more serious, that this was terror times two. we understood that this could effect the western world in a way that we haven't seen before. all of a sudden the president returns from vacation and yesterday we heard a very different story about isil. >> we were hoping the president would come out with a hard core plan for the way forward. he decides if we attack isis we have to start where the headquarters are in syria. to do that we have to get intelligence on the ground. a little disturbing we don't have any. so he is telling everybody we are going over with drones to take a look at where to hit. among the people upset by this
is the free syrian army. if they are saying you are just going to hit us once in a while and try to contain it you are tickling isis and doing more harm than good. >> you talk about the flip-flops with the administration. to your point it goes back last week when general dempsey was talking apocalyptic terms about how bad isis was. if we are going to get rid of them we have to go over there. then somebody must have gotten to general dempsy because he said it is really just kind of a regional threat. regional? really? >> the president of the united states has described it as a cancer which is funny because back in january when he was talking to the new yorker magazine he referred to that organization that wants to fly the black flag over the white house as the jv team. josh earnest, the president's spokesperson was asked about it
yesterday, that gaff the president made in january. he did his best to try to untangle the president. >> the president was not singling out isil. he was talking about the very different threat that is posed by a range of extremists around the globe. many of them do not have designs on attacking the west or the united states. that is what puts them in stark contrast to the goals and capability of the previously existing al qaeda network led by osama bin laden. >> that is such a load because david remnic asked the president specifically about isis. >> and he did and he talked about that. i remember when george bush said bring it on to what was left of the dead enders and he said i shouldn't have said that. that is wrong. the administration now to pretend as if they didn't call isis the jv while they flew the black flag is wrong. it is a relative insult to people who are paying attention,
which i imagine is you. the president of the united states has to look at this group, this group bringing in $2 million a day in oil revenue alone and in extortion in various points saying how do we contain them. >> in addition to that a state department official concluded 1,000 americans joined the forces such as isil. we had an american beheaded across the world globally on the web and witnessed what their intentions are. when you hear that reference back in january to these groups, isis, as j.v. it is insulting. right now colonel west said it is completely idiotic. >> when i listened to those comments made by josh earnest those were inane, incoherent,
incompetent. what josh earnest is doing and the obama administration is trying to relegate and define isis in a term or ideology that fits in their national security strategy so they don't have to take an action. >> we have found out in the after math in our operation in libya where we led from behind and had no plan afterwards egypt and the the uae have conducted air strikes in libya because extremists have taken over the airport. uae and egypt see this as a threat and conducted air strikes in the region and didn't even tell us. >> you know why they didn't tell us? they can't trust us. that's the problem. >> i get that. here is the thing. do you trust your government? because we have heard that louis
lerner who apologized at the irs they illegally targeted conservative groups and tea party groups. people tried to get her e-mail to make sure there wasn't coordination with the white house. it was revealed her e-mails were destroyed because there was a problem with the hard drive. people came out of the woodwork to explain away the problem. listen to this. >> the actual hard drive after it was determined it was dysfunctional and with experts no e-mails could be retrieved. >> was it physically destroyed? >> that is my understanding? >> because there was a computer crash? 67,000 e-mails provided to congress. 24,000 have come from this period during which her hard drive crashed and in which those e-mails were lost. >> in april determined that, in fact, there had been a hard drive crash and some e-mails may
have been lost our next step was to investigate how many e-mails did we have and could we find. >> so they are very clear there all of her e-mails gone. as it turns out judicial watch which has filed some freedom of information lawsuits against the irs were told by government attorneys on friday there is some backup system that keeps everything. it's in the end of days thing where if you need the continuity of government there is a copy of it somewhere. there is a copy. >> as the law dictates. >> it's just too hard to get so we are not going to try. what? >> everything we have been hearing about scratched hard drives and missing e-mails with lois lerner and other irs officials and other officials in the obama administration has been a pack of malarkey. they can get the records but they don't want to. they haven't told anyone about
it frankly until we were able to get it out of them on friday. >> just to be clear. there were backup tapes but too costly to retrieve and we are not sure if they are there. this is pretty much the same thing. who are we writing the checks to? if we can't retrieve it how much does it cost. is it in a vault? is it a trip? >> what did you know? when did kroun it? let's start from the beginning here and get to the truth on how this all started. >> the administration says there is no new backup system describes to judicial watch. do you believe that? did you see ansly this
morning? >> i was looking for her. >> money must be flowing in her account to do two shows in a row. >> glad to be here. thanks for welcoming me to the show this morning. an update to a missing person's story. 21-year-old luge s rovy has been missing for a week after he failed to show up at college at the university of montana. now a new clue might shed some light. this surveillance footage from a chevron station in garden valley, idaho appears to show his green subaru. he was working at a raft and kayak camp in idaho. his friend and supervisor will join us at 8:15. thousands gathering paying final respects to michael brown. family, friends, celebrities and even strangers among the crowd
there. the reverend al sharpton delivering a wild speech criticizing police and calling for justice. tomorrow the grand jury is set to resume hearing that evidence. as the fbi interviews witnesses as part of a justice department investigation. a united airlines flight heading from newark to denver forced to make a landing in chicago after a fight over leg room. a passenger used a banned knee defender device to stop the woman in front of him from reclining. the knee defender locked her seat into place. they got into a fight. the woman threw her water on the guy. both passengers were kicked off the plane. they were both sitting in economy plus which already allows for four inches of leg room. >> those are banned. don't buy one of those. let the person in front of you decline. >> the knee defender seems
defensive. hundreds of residents in napa, california may be without running water for days following the 6 magnitude earthquake. the destruction may take a week to tally and damages could top a billion dollars. we are joined live from napa. good morning to you, rick. what can you tell us about today? >> good morning, elizabeth. people still working on the cleanup process and also not only small business owners going through inventory but homeowners who saw devastating damage. we have seen images and i believe we have video of the fire that struck one of the mobile home parks during the earthquake or immediately thereafter. yesterday we were able to get footage and see exactly what the area looks like and talk with one of the owners who survived and barely got out in time before her home was engulfed in flames. take a look at what she had to say. >> there was a fire in the house
in the back of me was burning. and then there was a big explosion. and it was really, really burning. they told me half of your place is gone. >> so everybody there having to figure out what to do and get their life back on track now and how to sort through the pieces as well as the small business owners we will be talking with the folks here. we will bring more of that to you in a bit. >> absolutely heartbreaking. live in napa. coming up on this tuesday, the president slams the use of enhanced irrigation. as the isis threat gets worse is it time to use them again? the cia official who ran the program under george w. bush is here live next. and a proposal so big it is catching the attention of police. the couple behind the incredible
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>> before i came into office i was very clear that in the immediate after math of 9/11 we did some things that were wrong. we did a whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks. we did some things that were contrary to our values. >> that is the president's opinion that we tortured some folks. with enhanced interrogation techniques would it help us now. joining us now a man who defends the use of the techniques, the former head of the cia's clandestine service. your response to the president's characterization of what you did? >> i take tremendous exception to what the president said. it is very disturbing and it is not true.
as i have explained many times all of those techniques were approved by the president, authorized by the president, president bush at the time were certified as legal and were briefed to the congress. so when the president comes out and accuses cia officers of torture it creates tremendous problems for all of us. and we take tremendous exception. >> so would you say -- obviously you did everything right. you did what you were supposed to do and got tremendous intelligence out of it. now, with isis, this organization everyone says is as bad if not worse in al qaeda who beheaded a journalist from being a journalist, would you think some of these techniques would be effective in maximizing intelligence opportunities? >> yes, isis is a dangerous and evil organization that has no
problems beheading american citizens. mark my words, if we don't go after them, they will come after us here at home and try to kill us and terirorize us. we have to go after them. i don't think the enhanced interrogation program should be used against them. the reason why is because in the spring of 2009 president obama decided to release the legal justifications for the use of the techniques. he declassified it and released it to the world. and this document provided the details of the program and also the legal options available to us to undertake the program. so basically we have given away
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we have quick tuesday morning headlines. former fbi director louis frye seriously injured in a car accident in vermont. he required surgery for a broken leg. all eyes on primary races in arizona and florida. in house it is a three way republican race in arizona's second district. a win for retired air force
colonel martha mcsally would set up a rematch against former gabrielle giffords aid martha. the winner faces incumbent rick scott in florida. let's talk. >> good news for tired teens. the american academy of pediatrics urging schools to start no earlier than 8:30 a.m. they say teens need between 8.5 and 9.5 hours of sleep per night and they are not getting it. well rested you look. for teens i think it was from a parent i think that sleep is important but statistically you say could be vital. if teens are not getting enough sleep we know the consequences are real. >> this is actually a very
important study. 8.5 to 9 hours. the new logo is let them sleep. what they found was about 20% of our teenagers are getting that number of sleep. we have a lot of accidents the next day. they are not functioning well both physical and mentally. memories are not functioning well as a result of not enough sleep. most of them are going to bed around 11:00 distracted by computers, ipads, facebooks and twitter. next day they are taking a nap and not doing so well in school. this is a new finding. >> the demand on them is high and the pressure to get into college and many holding down a job, homework, accounts to -- activities to build a resume before a resume. one study found a 70% drop in car crashes involving teens
driving after. when they push the school date back they found kids are safer on the road. that is a huge number. 70%. >> that is a big number. >> it's a huge finding. that is why they are emphasizing this. also as a physician i will tell you that lack of sleep leads to obesity. your cortisone level is all out of sync. risk of heart attack and diabetes. overall this will help us in a big way. there are also behavioral changes. you don't want to workout right before sleep. you don't want to take a lot of caffeine and energy drinks before you go to bed. make sure you go to bed at the same time and wake up the next morning at the same time so you have a system down. make the bedroom comfortable it them. >> phones and things like that should go off? how early before bed? a half hour before you want to go to sleep? >> at least about an hour or so. interesting finding.
>> only 15% of schools right now start later than 8:30 so maybe that number will changed based on this. >> it's a good move. >> good to see you. is this a sign of the times? a new study shows the majority of americans want to make it illegal for children to go to the playground alone? should a walk to the park be a crime? she is not exactly a model citizen. a model accused of shop lifting chocolate. wait until you hear what someone told her. ♪ ♪
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the dentist that i dated. >> she has won five emmy's and had 18 nominations. previous wins have been for "seinfeld." >> he was on "seinfeld." >> they smooched there. >> that wasn't the only hot moment. did you see it? the emmy's did not disappoint. you are stepping in. were there more kisses? >> good morning. it was definitely tv's big night last night. for all the talk about big movie stars being invited and the tv academy nominated streaming services like netflix, they really stuck to their own last night. the academy while they gave them invites to the big party didn't get mvp passes. jim parsons won.
a lot of people were shocked. matthew mcconaughey everybody thought he was a lock for last night. he was a big part of the program, a lot of jokes, a lot of comments headed his way. people were kind of surprised. what an amazing performance with "breaking bad." billy crystal had a heart felt tribute. >> so amazing. one of the big more popular moments of the show and the highest rated moment of the show is in memorial. last year it was very depressing. this year they did it perfectly as each of the people came up of people we lost this year. at the end billy crystal did a tribute to his long time friend and colleague, robin williams. this is what he had to say. >> he made us laugh hard. it is very hard to talk about
him in the past because he was so present in all of our lives. miraculously because they float in the heavens so far away from us now the beautiful light will continue to shine in us forever and the glow will be so bright it will warm your heart, it will make your eyes glisten. and you will think to yourselves, robin williams, what a concept. >> well said. >> very moving. it all started last night on the red carpet. we were there live. the big question we asked everyone last night was some of the best story telling is happening right now on television. we asked some of the stars what they thought about that. >> i think television is kind of like a new film. a lot of people are telling us television is where it is at. >> drawing the best actors out there? >> that's what great material
does. it draws the best talent. >> the fact that networks put money behind big shows. i think boundaries are left because you can do any concept or idea and follow it to the darkest place. >> a great, great night out there. a little hot in the l.a. sun. >> that the where you are wearing a vest this morning? >> i figured why not? trying things different. we are bringing the vest back. >> it works, michael. >> thank you, sir. >> worked for chuck coners on the rifle men. >> he was not nominated. it is 25 minutes before the top of the hour. >> everyone loves you because you go from the emmy's to that. it is just so fun. >> it was a great show. it lightened my life in the
afternoons after school. here is what is happening in the news. a football player turns hero when he jumps into action to save his nephew's life. star defensive back for the university of california was at his cousin's house when his 7-year-old nephew started to drown in a swimming pool. shaw jumped off of the second story balcony on to the concrete and pulled that boy to safely. he did severely sprain both ankles and will be sidelined. despite risking his season and potentially his career shaw says he would do it all over again. murderers on the loose. u.s. immigration and customs enforcement releasing convicted killers. 169 immigrants have been released with homicide related convictions because of a supreme court ruling which prohibits from detaining people who cannot be deported.
ice said they cannot release identity and locations because of privacy concerns. it looks like a top model should get used to the perp walk and not the catwalk. this dutch beauty charged with shop lifting fish oil and chocolates from whole foods. appearing in a manhattan court the six foot stunner was told to stand up straight and unfold her arms. she declined a plea deal saying i'm doing fashion week soon. a romantic mystery. police in london looking for a stolen car when their helicopter spotted this. will you marry me spelled out in lit candles. the thermal image picking up the man getting on one knee in a par. police left wondering who the couple was. thanks to twitter he they are. their back is to the camera. we know that she said yes. those are your headlines. brian, over to you.
a buzzworthy performance at the u.s. open. let's talk tennis. a be wreaking havoc on venus williams first round win. the two bugging out as attendants tried to swat away the pesky opponent which would not get off her racquet. williams refused to kill the bee and later would not comment. the bee could not be reached for comment. this may be the last time they watch the nationals. a little girl in front of the nationals pitcher stephen strasburg as he winds up for a warmup pitch. the girl was involved in the pregame show and just didn't leave. she ran between the pitcher's mound and home plate. kids do not belong at baseball games. make the kids stay home. talk about crafting a message for new recruits the university of tennessee photo shop "rolling stone" of him with beyonce.
it includes a section on why the pop star thinks tuttle belongs at tennessee. the big question is will it work. tuttle is still undecided. it is amazing what schools will do to get a top level recruit. in the world of polling a poll asking is it appropriate for young children to play at the park alone? 68% of you americans say that there should be a law that would require kids under 9 to be supervised. remember, this comes on the heels of a south carolina woman who was thrown in jail because she allowed her 9 year old to go to the playground unsupervised. >> 68% for a 9 year old. 43% feel the same way if a kid is 12. what do you think about that? >> obviously, it depends on the
circumstances. if you are in a bad section and have to worry about going outside your house it is an issue. in suburban america or cities without a high crime rate, just normal every day things i think it is a bad message. you scare the heck out of kids thinking you walk out and get kidnapped. i can't go in the park, parents paranoid. >> with everyone's head down into their device you don't necessarily feel that everyone has that neighborhood watch over the kids. when i grew up everyone was watching. elizabeth was doing this. people telling my mom what i did all day long. >> you were a bad kid for a while. >> the irony is all of us played in the park alone when we were in kindergarten. now we are all parents. there are so many helicopter parents who don't let the kids out of their sight and then scare them where they say you have to be careful. if you know your neighborhood. if your kid has a cell phone
when they are out and about they are going to be safe. what kid doesn't know about stranger danger? what teacher -- just get away from them. >> should be illegal. >> it criminalizes the kid and the parents, is that okay with you? >> there would be no satch, no mo. >> they went to the park alone. >> they were at the park alone. let us know what you think. e-mail us or facebook or twitter. northern california still reeling from a massive earthquake. our next guest says they actually dodged a bullet and the worst could be to come. and a top secret weapon that could hit any target in the world within hours. it is not a secret anymore after a mission failure is caught on camera. >> what is that?
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15 minutes to the top of the hour time for quick headlines. batteries in apple's iphone 5 turning rotten? apple recalling a small percentage of iphone 5s because batteries no longer hold charge. to see if your phone is eligible head to website and enter your serial number. and a photograph shows the moment a top secret weapon explodes. the hypersonic weapon was destroyed four seconds after launching. officials say there was a technical glitch. >> great. thank you very much. northern california is still picking up the pieces and reeling from a massive earthquake over the weekend.
our next guest says we dodged a bullet and the worst is still to come. here now is associate director at u.s. geological survey. >> we dodged a bullet i understand you told one of our producers. what are you talking about? >> a couple of different things. one is that this earthquake ruptured and began in the south and ruptured up to the north. so a lot of the energy was directed away from some of the most populated areas and particularly some of the soils, the california bay delta which is a major source of water for californians. a lot of levees are susceptible to liquid faction failure. the energy was directed up towards napa. of course, we saw what happened with the buildings there. you also saw a lot of sidewalks where there was rubble. this was in the middle of the night. we saw no fatalities. we are very grateful for that.
that is part of a factor. it was 3:00 in the morning. if it were a different time of the day we would have seen fatalities. >> it is interesting you talk about how thankfully the energy was directed to the north. had it been to the south that could have been much worse. automatically when people think about big california fault lines they think of the san andreas fault. this particular fault that had the earthquake the other day was the west napa fault. it kind of runs parallel to the big one, right sth. >> that's right. the san andreas is a system of faults. they are taking up movement all the time. about the speed the fingernails are growing. moves against north american plate. since we are talking about rocks even though plates may be moving slowly the rocks themselves get jammed up. pressure builds up and they fail. there is a whole sequence of
faults in the bay area that have the potential for building up strength and have the potential for a major damaging earthquake. >> and there is an image that shows 63%. put on your professor hat for just a second. what is a straight slip? >> there is essentially three ways that these plates can be interacting. one is that they are pressing against one another and you get for example subduction zones around the ring of fire in the pacific. where they are diving down against the other. you can get them pulling apart or have them moving side to side. that is what happens in the case of the san andreas system. it is what we call a strike-slip fault. it moves to the right or the left. it is accommodating that kind of a movement. >> very informative stuff. we thank you very much. i think people watching may have
got two hours of college credit. that was really good. folks, you know what a strike-slip is. >> thank you, david. burger king may be forced to leave the united states because they say their corporate taxes are too high. one democrat slamming the move. how about criticizing shouldn't our ridiculously high rates be the focus. for two years this 12 year old running a lemonade stand to help pay the bills. why is one neighbor trying to shut him down? that young entrepreneur here live next. ♪ ♪
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he's 12 years old, but fort last two years, t.j. has been hard at work running a lemonade stand in his fellow there neighborhood. >> but while cops say it's completely legal, one neighbor has been pushing to shut him down. joining us is lemonade stanine, t.j., welcome. when did you get this idea for a lemonade stand with different flavors and the location? >> well, my friends, they did a lemonade stand in the summer before i did it. i figured that was a good idea, so i decided to try it. >> were you surprised that someone by the name of doug wilke decided to complain and doesn't think you should have this. he says it's an illegal business, causes traffic problem, too much noise and trash? >> yes, i was very surprised. >> so has he said anything to you directly?
>> no, not really. >> wow. they actually we know around, the police went around and said the neighbors were polled and no one around seems to have a problem but this gentleman. what would you tell him about this business and why it's so important to you? >> that this lemonade stand is a very good business and that everybody else is supporting the lemonade stand. so i think he should, too. >> right. it's totally legal right now. he's just made a few phone calls. how much is the lemonade and what kind of flavors do you offer? >> lemonade is one dollar and i have pink, strawberry and regular for one dollar. i said that. and 50 cents for cookies. >> you get cookies, too. so you expanded into food. >> yes. >> i heard you're 12 years old now. i heard you can't wait to be 14. why is that? >> because when i'm 14, i can apply for a bagger job at
publix. >> right. what do you do with the money? >> i buy my mom and i dinners. i pay for cell phone bill. all different things. >> wow. that's tremendous. >> such an entrepreneur. >> it doesn't get you down that your neighbor is complaining and has hurt your business, 'cause he says it's very loud and some of the people that come there use profanity. >> it does kind of make me upset the fact that he is kind of lying, because nobody does that. but everybody else has supported me so much. so that just brings me right back up. >> we actually reached out to him to see if he would join us and provide a comment, but we haven't heard back yet. have you given him any remedy, maybe a free cup? >> i tried, but he won't really listen. he won't come to the stand. he won't answer the door. >> why do you think that is? >> i guess he's just not really
into the lemonade stand, so he doesn't want to join. >> right. >> i tell you, it looks like everything that's good about america. beautiful neighborhood, beautiful town. great drinks. what else can you ask for? >> a fantastic entrepreneur who can't wait to get his first official job. we are impressed, we have some cheers to you today with our own lemonade. >> it's not as good as yours, but it will have to do. >> thank you. >> thanks for hanging with us this morning and hope you have good sales. >> if we only can get him to deliver. four minutes before the top of the hour. it's the most popular week for beach goers. but this could change all that. a great white shark could be coming to your beach. where that shark is heading and does he have your name on his mind? >> and they show up for waffles and stay fort alcohol. the new york neighborhood getting up in arms over these
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good morning. it is tuesday, august 26. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. they told us lois lerner irs targeting e-mails were gone forever. >> a hard drive crash and some e-mails may have been lost. >> hard drive crashed in which the e-mails were lost. >> no e-mails could be retrieved, was recycled and destroyed. >> this morning a huge bombshell. they were never really gone. it turns out it was just too much work for the government to find them. >> great. meanwhile, a flight diverted at 30,000 feet because two passengers came to blows over leg room. that little gizmo right there featured in the green circle led to an epic midair meltdown.
we'll tell you about it. a quiet day at the beach turns terrifying when this, yep, that, you know, this and that was spotted swimming just feet away from shore. that's a great white shark with the capability of coming on land. run for your lives, but team your tv on so we get the ratings 'cause mornings are better with friends. >> hear ye, hear ye, this is the town crier! you are watching "fox & friends"! >> thank you, town cryer. brian, i think you're confusing the news of the day, which is big out of massachusetts, with sharknado. that wasn't real? >> it wasn't? >> wicked big news coming out of massachusetts. >> yeah. we got a reporter to tell us about that in a moment. but right now, ainsley earhart joins us on this tuesday with an update. >> hey. yes. let me tell you what's happening in the headlines. an update to a missing person story. we first told you about it yesterday. 21-year-old lucas roby has been
missing for a week after he failed to show up for college at the university of montana. now a new clue might be shedding some light on all this. this surveillance footage from garden valley, idaho, appears to show his green subaru last tuesday. search teams and volunteers are now scouring the mountains of the boise national forest for any signs of him or his car. kenneth long was the last person to see him. he will join us at 8:15 with the latest on this search. lois lerner's lost irs e-mails do exist. that according to government watchdog judicial watch. they say justice department attorneys are admitting now the e-mails are likely on back up computers, but they say they're just too difficult to retrieve. the agency accused of targeting conservative groups has repeatedly said that her lost e-mails cannot be recovered. >> just an amazing sequences of cover-up, delay, denial, even what now appears to be a false
statement from the new irs commissioner in which he said he moved heaven and earth to give us lois lerner's lost e-mails. he either lied under oath or he chose not to know a critical fact. >> judicial watch now plans to ask a federal judge to force the irs to hand over those e-mails. a united airlines flight forced to land in chicago because of a battle over leg room. a passenger using the band's knee defender device to stop the woman in front of him from reclining. the knee defender essentially locked her seat into place so that she couldn't move it back and she became angry. a flight attendant intervened asking the man to remove the gadget. he refused. the two passengers got into it. the furious female even throwing water on the guy. both passengers were kicked off the plane when it landed in chicago. get this, they were both seated in economy plus, which already has four inches of more leg
room. "breaking bad" broke good. the tv show dominating the emmy awards almost a year after going off the air. >> and the emmy goes to "breaking bad". >> it took home six emmys, including best drama series. bryan cranston picked up lead actor. anna gun and aaron paul won for supporting roles. one of the best dressed, "modern family" star sofia vergara. with missing one thing, her new boyfriend. sofia vergara said that she didn't bring him because he's too hot for the red carpet. you be the judge. there he is. and speak of steamy, julia louis-dreyfus got quite a surprise from former seinfeld flame. >> you look so much like the actor in "seinfeld" who played the dentist that i dated. >> she won five emmys and had 18
nominations. previous wins have been for seinfeld -- >> he was on seinfeld, yeah. >> she took home her third emmy award in a row for best actress. those are your headlines. >> very thorough. thank you. meanwhile, we've got a fox news alert. united states has overnight started flying surveillance drones over the country of syria. >> this move authorized by president obama over the weekend brings the u.s. one step closer to an all-out air assault in the region. >> could it happen and did we ask the government for permission? how do they feel about this? let's go live to peter doocy in washington. hey, peter. >> reporter: hey. the goal right now is to get a better look at what kind of fire power isis is working with in syria. that's why president obama signed off on surveillance flights over syria and depending
on what these man asked unmanned aircraft see, the next move could be air strikes. >> we've been looking at syria from across the border with very high altitude observation for a long time. now he's given permission to fly drones over syria. this is a step props of increasing surveillance and reconnaissance over time, gather the information, find the targets and eventually i'll guarantee you, we're going to start bombing them. >> reporter: a syrian government official is warning the white house not to start air strikes unless their president, al assad, gives the okay. the obama administration says they may not ask permission. kind of like when they decided to go after bin laden in pakistan without giving anyone a heads up. >> i'm not going to get ahead of decision making that the president hasn't made yet or rule any option on our off the table, but we're not going to be restricted by borders. we're actively considering
what's going to be necessary to deal with this threat. we're certainly working with a range of partners in the region as we coordinate those efforts. >> reporter: there is a debate about how much of a threat isis really is. the white house says they don't know of any active isis plots against the u.s. homeland, but the house intel committee chairman mike rogers concerned with all the westerners getting involved with militants said this weekend, isis fighters are one plane ticket away from u.s. shores. back to you in new york. >> all right. thank you very much. it seems like the debate as well is going on between the white house and the pentagon. last week the pentagon, you got the joint chiefs chair, general dempsey, he said that the only way to take out isis is to go over to syria. couple days later, he walks it back. he says, you know what? it's really just kind of a regional threat. what happened? why did he flip flop? ralph peters has an idea.
>> took hem out behind the wood shed and for an extended period. general dempsey committed the greatest sin you can commit in the obama administration last week. he told the truth. and that just doesn't go with them being a jv team or the administration's narrative. he and secretary hagel were right, president obama would have to do something. with a wave of the president's magic golf club, suddenly within back to, where, it's not an immediate threat. >> so the question is, what would he be doing? so if we do start bombing there, we are technically helping assad who is our enemy and has done nothing for the last 15 years in that region but make life miserable for us and indirectly responsible for the loss of american lives. among the people who are critical of us taking action if it's just willie nilly and without a plan is the free syrian army who have been let down. they say we have not done anything we said we were going to do and that by doing what we
said we're going to do now, it would be like tickling them. >> it seems confusing at the border. -- that the border seems so administration to the administration, but our own border here does not. right now this imminent threat, there is no denying it. an american was beheaded and it went across the web waves like wild with a message from isis and their intentions to drown us in blood. we actually spoke with the former head of the c.i.a. rodriguez, and he said that if we don't do something, isis will sure do it. they'll do it right here in our soil. >> isis is a dangerous and evil organization that has no problems beheading american citizens and mark my words, if we don't go after them, they will come after us here at home and try to kill us and terrorize us. so we have to go after them. >> he handed up the clandestine
service. he knows it. what's interesting is the fact with this break news that -- apparently the white house authorized the flying of drones over syria. we weren't doing it before. isis has been over there for a long time and the fact that just now we're finding out that we're going back because the president didn't want to cross that international border? that is crazy. >> right. he said there was no dissemination. it was a fallacy to think we could just arm a small section of the anti-assad forces. we put in a request for $580 million to arm them and now we're looking to blow up isis to empower them, so something doesn't gel here. yet what's staggering is we still don't have a comprehensive plan. >> most people are praying we don't see a double bogey when it comes to syria with this administration. >> we've got another breaking news story. the iconic line from "jaws," we're going to need a bigger boat, left on this shore line as beach goers are warned of a great white shark in
massachusetts. leah gabriel joins us with the latest details. >> good morning. beach goers in massachusetts clearing the water on a beautiful sunny day after an unexpected visitor shows up. this massive great white estimated to be 15 feet long. spotted just yards off the shore line. the state police called in to verify it was indeed a shark, while confused beach goers had no clue. >> we're in the water maybe three feet deep and we saw the helicopter start coming from the south end of the beach. >> the lifeguard came and told people to get out of the water and i went down and i just asked and they said there had been a shark sighting. >> reporter: lifeguards ordering everyone out of the water for two hours. then the shark slowly swam for deeper water. once the coast guard determined it was safe, people got back in the ocean. at least one person having a little fun with it, leaving this message on the shore line. you're going to need a bigger boat. the famous line from the movie "jaws." and while the beach is now back
open, warnings is posted to swim at your own risk. there is stepped up police presence as we head into the holiday weekend. i don't know about you, but swimming with sharks not on my to do list. >> i wouldn't be the first one back in the water either. >> thank you very much. a little close to home, the movie "jaws" was filmed in massachusetts at martha's vineyard. >> yes. which has a big problem now. >> with the cops there, no shark wants to get a ticket on a holiday weekend. coming up, they show up for the waffles and stay for unlimited cocktails. now neighbors fighting back with this video of boozies brunchers. but is that legal? how many mimosas in that? >> right. i think you got to cut them off. burger king under fire for wanting to leave the united states over high taxes. but is burger king really to blame? stuart varney is from england. ♪
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in a whopper of a move, burger king is in talks to buy a canadian company so they can move their operation, burger king, out of this country and into canada which some are calling unamerican. >> i think it is also about taxes. i think you're right because burger king is so visible, it puts the focus on the general behavior of corporate america and in a sense, the contempt that they feel for the average citizen of the united states. >> is this a bad move or a response to the high regulation and taxes in this country? here to discuss is the host of varney and company, stuart
varney. >> wait a minute, there is a new angle. >> which is? >> warren buffet, president obama's major corporate supporter. he is facilitating burger king's move. >> wow. >> he is financing part of the deal. he is helping burger king leave america, which is an astonishing thing because he's the principle corporate supporter of president obama. >> ironic there. but explain why businesses are opting to do this or why they feel this is only, if not best choice for their business? >> several reasons. number one, if you go overseas, you get a lower corporate tax rate. america's tax rate is the highest in the world, 35%. go oversea, get a lower tax rate. more profit for you and your shareholders. number two, this is a very antibusiness country at the moment. the obama administration regulates business, tries to stamp down on business. corporations are fleeing in droves to a less regulated environment. who would have thought 20 years ago, 25 years ago that american companies would jump ship, go to
canada of all places for lower taxes, less regulation, more growth? who would have thought? >> why is the reaction -- this is devastating for business, the fact that they have to jump ship. >> it's very strong from american business. lower the tax rate, reform the corporate tax structure and let us grow in america. that's what they want. >> 70 companies have left the country and gone overseas since the 1980s. >> how long until somebody in the administration calls warren buffet unamerican? >> unpatriotic, unamerican. that's what president obama called these companies which have jumped ship. corporate deserters, unpatriotic. >> the interesting thing is so many people say, the most brilliant investor, the most brilliant businessman in the world is warren buffet, and he sees the utility in leaving the united states. corporate wise to avoid the tax. >> it's astonishing. president obama got a lot of support from warren buffet when he was doing the tax story.
warren buffet objected to pay ago lower tax rate than his secretary. of course, he didn't pay himself very much. that's why he paid a lower rate. now we have the instance of he's supporting burger king, financing burger king jumping ship to canada. >> that's the closest thing we have to royalty in this country and it's leaving. >> i'm sorry. i got it. i just got it. >> it's okay. >> we could say the same thing about larry king, but he's staying. we'll be watching you on fox business. >> thank you so much. coming up, his tickets sell tore over 100 bucks a pop. but gang members got to say david blane for free. we'll explain. >> did he disappear? and call dad's little helper around the house because it will launch your daughters to career success. mark meryl and just how real that impact is.
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it's raining numbers. that means it's time for news by the numbers. first, 169 convicted killers. that's how many murderers the united states immigrations and customs enforcement have released over the last year. 169. due to privacy laws, they can't reveal their names or locations. terrific. next, $15,000. that's how much oprah spends on water tankers to keep her 40-acre california estate looking green. this as other lawns in the state suffer water restrictions amid a very long drought.
and finally, $10. that's how much arby's new sandwich is going to cost you. the super sized sandwich boasts eight different delicious kinds of meat and two different cheeses. look at that. what time does arby's open? >> that made me hungry. thanks. they say actions speak louder than words and it turns out this could be the case when it comes to fathers and daughters. a new study finding dads who help out more with household chores ended up having daughters who aspire to less traditional feminine jobs. could that be true? joining us is the president of family first and author of all pro dad, mark meryl. good morning. >> good morning. >> so the study is interesting. it basically said if a dad helps out, their daughters would most likely be astronauts, marine biologists, geologists, police officers, professional hock you're owe soccer players. if they don't help out, the daughters would tend toward more feminine jobs, being a nurse, fashion designer, librarian or
stay at home mom. what's your assessment of this? >> my assessment of this small university of british columbia study is i have five kids and i have three daughters. i have a corporate recruiter who is working out in the work field now. i have a nuclear engineer and then i have a musical theater major who is in college. i can tell you, the fact that i did a lot of laundry and dishes as my kids were growing up probably doesn't have too much to do with their career choice. now, i will have to say that there are fringe benefits to doing the chores. in fact, my wife, she loves it. >> i bet she does. let me ask you this, so how can we -- you're speaking from experience. five kids, three daughters who with well on their way to success. do you believe that there are things that you can do as a father specifically that impact their decisions, careers and self-esteem? and what are they? >> yeah. no question about. parental influence is one of the
biggest things that we can do as a parent to affect our kids' career choice. the first one is be a student of your child. watch and take mental notes of your child's natural inclination s in their areas of giftedness. we always did that when our kids were little. one of my daughters, emily, i noticed she was really creative. she loved to sing. so we made sure that we directed her in that area and put her in courses and allowed her to perform, to really work that out. >> what do dads get wrong, do you think? >> well, i think sometimes dads get it wrong that they just really don't understand the incredible impact that they can have on their daughters and mom, too. and so it's very important to be a student of your child. it's also very important to validate your children's gifts. not only observe them, but also look at them and say to them, you know what? i've noticed that you're really good with people. i think you should continue to
develop that because that's -- you're really, really good at that. that's something that we need to do as well. so not only be a student of your child, but also to validate them in their gifts. >> good advice there. dads across the nation right now are pretty psyched because they don't have to do extra chores, it won't make a difference in the career choice. but it's being there and what they can do with their kid that matters. thank you for that advice. >> thanks. tell tim no more chores. he's off the hook. he doesn't have to do anything else. >> i hope he didn't hear that. thanks, mark. >> thanks. coming up, they show up for the waffles and they stay for unlimited cocktails. new neighbors now are fighting back with this video of boozey brunchers. but is it legal? and the college football season kicks off in a matter of days. we are warming up in the middle of times square. brian loves soccer so much, we're going to see if he can kick a field goal.
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all right. damage estimates following the 6 magnitude earthquake in napa, california on sunday could take weeks to tally. fixing the damages could top $1 billion. but experts say we dodged a bullet and the worst could still be to come. >> there is a whole sequence of faults in the bay area that have the potential for -- they're building up strength and have the potential for a major damaging earthquake. >> rick reichmuth is live in napa with how this quake could actually impact the wine
industry moving forward. a lot of people worried in the coming days here that the worst could be yet to come as we heard and the wine industry one of them. >> yeah. wine industry is a really difficult thing, especially small business owners. large wine companies, or wine makers, maybe not having as much of an impact, but it's really the small wine make that are will have some of the biggest impact. i'm joined by karen, a wine owner. thank you for letting us be in your space. all of these barrels that we're looking at fell very quickly, you say. >> yes. it happened very fast. it was 3:20 in the morning. my husband and i live next to the winery. so obviously a loud boom came. we later realized the boom was the barrels coming down. and it happened instantly. >> and you look at all of this, so you still don't have a good sense on the economic loss for you guys? >> we're in the process of pulling the barrels out, finding out how much wine we actually lost and as you can see, we
still have a lot of work to do. >> kind of a dangerous process in trying to get this out as well. you have people in here doing this, but there is danger to the people as they're trying to pull these out. >> you're right. it's very dangerous and slow. we have to be very careful and it's not something people do all the time. so there is not a whole practice on how you pick up barrels that have toppled over like this. >> we have been hearing that earthquake insurance is prohibitive to get. it's so costly. so any loss here is directly to you. >> right. >> as a small business owner. >> my husband and i own the business ourselves. we just happen to sell wine. and each bottle, each barrel lost is all directly affecting us. >> i want to say, first of all, it is harvest season, so that's one of the reasons why this happening at this time is so difficult. you got grapes that you have to get off of the vines right now. they are, these bottles that were not damaged, but you can see the labels are damaged. you guys are selling these as collector's items now.
karen, thank you very much and best of luck to you guys. >> thank you. back to you. >> all right. rick, real quick, those big barrels behind you, if they're not broken and the wine is still in them, is it still drinkable? >> it's a great question. if the barrel is intact, the wine is completely fine. there will be no damage to the wine at all. >> quality stays the same. >> that's the most important part to this. certainly. >> it's just all shook up. >> and a great note to everyone out there, if they want to be able to help out, buy a bottle. why not. >> collector's item. 25 minutes before the top of the hour. ainsley earhart has headline duty today. >> yes. thank you. a new twist in the michael brown shooting case. a new audio recording claims to have captured the very moment that officer darren wilson opened fire on the 18-year-old. on the recording which has not
been verified, 11 shots are allegedly fired. an autopsy showed brown was hit six times. this as thousands gathered inside a st. louis church paying final respects to brown. family friends, celebrities and strangers among the crowd. the reverend al sharpton delivering a wild speech, criticizing police and calling for justice. and hopefully he didn't give tips how to escape. dare devil magician david blane performing tricks for dozens of new york city's most dangerous inmates. the hour long free show reportedly a reward for the high security inmates with good behavior. inmates included gang members from the rival bloods and crypts, guards are not happy. one saying, quote, how the -- am i allowed to say that on air? all right. how the hell does a killer get to watch a rabbit get pulled out of a hat? good question. they show up for breakfast and they stay for booze.
look at this video. boozey brunchers are popular in new york and in this one neighborhood, people are up in arms over the boozey brunchers there. and there is video to prove it. footage posted on youtube shows young patrons hunched over, stumbling, getting sick on the sidewalk, and even falling on the ground and it's all thanks to a bottomless brunch at a restaurant called prana. the management says they're beefing up security, watering down drinks and decreasing the number of reservations in an effort to keep their liquor license. those are your headlines. they're very popular. that's not the only restaurant in new york that has that. >> a lot of them have the bottomless mimosa cup. >> 45 bucks and you can get all you can eat and drink. >> they get pancaked is what i'll call that, thanks. brian kilmeade joins us from the crossroads of the world as the football season kicks off for college. >> yes. here we are on 44th street at times square. we haven't been here since the super bowl and it was minus 1 degree out.
college football starts in the summer. kirk said i'll come do a spot with you. one of the finest commentators in college football. a fine player in his day. why did you drag me all the way down here from this beautiful studio? >> look at this. >> what is going on here? >> brian put one right through the uprights. but i'm here to hang out with you, of course. allstate's got an amazing thing going on. celebrator their ten-year anniversary to the good hands net. you see them in all the college football games. the thing that i think is most impressive is they have a sweepstakes called it's good sweepstakes. a chance to go to the sugar bowl for four people, the national championship for four people and win $100,000. >> right. >> that's it. >> that's cool. today you've come to take a field goal, meet kirk, as well as have a chance to get these college football prizes. let's talk about this year. for the first time ever, the president has been calling for a football playoff. what's it going to look like? are we getting the voters out of
it. >> you'll have a 13-person panel. no more computers. it's a good step in the right direction. we have four teams. we used to have two. you have the allstate sugar bowl is a semifinal game, and the pasadena rose bowl. the winner of those two will play in the first ever national championship and that's in dallas. >> we have the top five by the a.p. flax fellow state to repeat, alabama still going to be in transition.
>> real quick, before i kick, al michaels came out and said i will not be talking about what's going on in the world during my day. bob costas talks about gun control. >> i work on two shows, college game day in the morning like you guys do. i'll ta,!é about that. but when i'm calling a game, the way michaels would do and saturday night, i'm going to talk about the game. i'm going to talk about the game, the subject matter involving that night and that broadcast. i don't think that's the platform to do that. i agree with al. >> he's al, less bob. so today you're going to have a chance to come to 42nd street and hit field goals. >> 11 to 1. >> am i going to hit this? >> this is going to hit the t, the first t in allstate. >> oh! >> come on of the you got to do better than that. >> i didn't realize i got a field goal plus. >> lookedp1o good. >> i think that was it. >> hurry up. >> there you go.
>> very nice. brian kilmeade, you just broke a little toe. >> back to you guys. >> we've got ice for that toe backf/4áq that is fun. right there times square. coming up, report claiming a special forces mission that tried to rescue james foley from isis was delayed because the president colonel tony shaver next with what he's hearing from inside the pentagon on that. and it's one of the most popular e-mail services out there. but gmail can be hacked almost 100% of the time. do you have a gmail account? you're going to want to stick around.
welcome back. quick headlines. gmail users may be at risk of getting hacked. researchers claim after getting gmail users to download an app, they could hack the account with a 92%atl success rate. also high at risk, chase bank and h & r block. this weakness found in android, windows and ios operating systems. yikes. and the government may soon be snooping on twitter. the feds are spending $1 million to create an on line database to track misinformation and hate speech. the database will also focus on political activity as well. over to you, steve. did president obama wait too long to launch a rescue mission for eç-including the journalists beheaded, james foal zoo according to the uk sunday times, quote, pentagon sources said foley and the others might well have been rescued, but
obama concerned about the ramifications of u.s. troops being killed or captured in syria took too long to authorize the mission. he took too long. lieutenant colonel tony schaefer says his sources confirm that report and he joins us live from d.c good morning to you. >> thanks for having me. >> we had phil balbonioç on, he was jim foley's boss. when a bunch of european hostages, they negotiated the release for them, they immediately spilled the beans and said we gave them the exact location in the spring where jim foley was. >> and to account for the missing time, by the time the information got out, we had to do our own verification, assessment. and then to put together a planning to in. steve, my understanding is that plan was ready to go in june, early june, like the first -- before the first week and then it took about 30 days for quote, unquote, the assessment of the white house, to go through it. i think that delay was a
material reason why the raid was successful, but the hostages were not there. >> okay. if the raid was successful but the hostages weren't there, that's not a successful raid because the idea is to pick up the hostages. >> exactly. their job. but you're saying that the reason it failed was because the president sat on it too long. >> yes. everything is going on here, steve, is seen through a political lens. let me be very clear for this, you've got to assess our national security based on the intelligence available and instead of doing what's best based on the intelligence, everything is run through this multiple-pronged political optic of the white house. in this case, i think clearly there was a loft down sizing going on with the mission, but they went with the mission and then when the mission didn't pl, the hostages weren't captured, they threw special operations under the bus, well, it was their fault. it was the president's fault for
not approving when he should have. >> the national security council put out a statement that says this report that the president sat on it not accurate. what are they doing there? just spinning? >> well, i'd like to hear the explanation then. okay. if it's not accurate, then with a is accurate? this is where they always play this political narrative game. they've got to get out there and talk about it. they're the ones that put the information out about the raid. they didn't want to talk about the raid, they shouldn't have put it out there. >> sure. what has happened over the last week where on thursday you've got hagel and dempsey and they're having a very somber press conference when they talk about how isis is bigger than anything they've ever seen before and dempsey is very them, we're going to have to go over to syria and do it there. then a couple days later, you know, they're really just kind of a regional threat. what happened with the general? >> again, politicalization. it was very clear last week when secretary of defense hagel stated what he did with general dempsey, isis is a threat, a global threat.
they're coming for us. they're well funded and well organized. and then something happened over the weekend. it's like a mind trick. the president comes into town and these are not the terrorists you want to pursue. clearly, steve, there is a political narrative which always supersedes whatever the intelligence is at the moment. again, it's politicalization of things which should not be politicalized. >> and exit question, the news this morning is that apparently now the president has authorized drones to be flying over syria to look for the bad guys. bad guys until today. >> exactly. this should have been going on the last couple of years since syria has been an issue. steve, you don't conduct military operations without having a clear picture as best you can establish and clearly there is something wrong that we're only now doing it? they went from one sortie per month to 50 a day now, finally. they should have been doing it a long time ago. >> no kidding. tony, thank you for your
perspective.% >> thanks. do you like sports and beef? ip &c @&c@ other companies are hiring right next coming up. first on this date in history in 1986, "higher love" by steve winwood was the number one song in america. ♪ ♪
the job market may be toughç but that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of jobs out there. from the "fox business" network, cheryl casone joins us with the top companies hiring right now. always great to see you. >> goodh;$w'ing.
>> who who is hiring? >> cox communication, depends what part of the country that you live in whether or not you heard of them. cable television company. and they're in 18 states right now. they're based in phoenix, but they've got, again, 18 states. 160 jobs were posted now. they need sales agents, people that can do customer service, technical specialists, managers. this is full time employment. this is benefits, 401(k), vision, all of those things, company 'cause you want to make sure you can get the health care because the government doesn't e$ayrbujhey're looking for a variety of people. >> and jamba juice. you can work for them now. they range from -- if you're going to work at the company, work in the stores, like 8 to 13 bucks an hour. they're looking for team members, but shift leaders and leaders to manage the region.
they're expanding. they're looking to open 80 to juicing, fasting thing. janb arrange juice is reallybd%ñ fad. >> and that means great news for those looking for jobs. tell me about sentimark. >> it's contracting, it's roofing, contracting. it's a fairly old company here in the united states. you may not have heard ofymñ it. but you might want to work there. they've got about 100 jobs that are open right now. reps, people to do customer service and bmt!m laborers. i know some people think,#od go, i have to go work on a roof and that's dangerous or whatever. it could pay really well. benefits. there is 401(k), there is medical, dental, vision, things like that. andjkd b$mj÷o a very substanti, solid company that[jif( operat through9ffñ most of the u.s.2os and canada2rñ. >> see what -- here is another
company. >> we're talking food. nationwide, they're looking georgia, texas, illinois, new york. this is minimum wage jobs, and they've got benefit, but it's all about food and burgers and all that good stuff. it's a fun place to go and eat. if you want to work there, why not? >> great news. cheryl casone, if you want the info, you know where to go. cheryl's blog, casoneexchange.com. we want to thank you for joining us this morning. >> thanks. >> always. coming up, our military getting ready to fly drones into syria to learn more about isis. could air strikes be next? a live report from the white house at the top of the hour. and no one is talking about it. who won the emmys last night? but everyone is talking about who stole a kiss. we've got all the juicy details. d
good morning. it is tuesday, august 26. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. the united states has begun flying surveillance drones over syria to lay the ground work for a potential air strike. but just yesterday the administration said a strike there is not happening. so what in the world is going on? also they told us those lois lerner irs targeting e-mails gone forever. remember? >> a hard drive crash and some e-mails may have been lost. >> hard drive crashed in which the e-mails were lost. >> no e-mails could be retrieved, was recycled and destroyed. >> well, that sounds bad. but this morning a big bombshell. those e-mail never really gone. turns out to get them out of a big machine, it's going to be too much work for the government. we'll tell you everything you need to know. >> i'm so confused. and remember this? (sound) the newest high school
class has no idea what else they don't know. you're going to see how much things have changed that will make you feel really, really old. at least you've got us. mornings are better with friends. >> how you doing? this is andrew dice clay, you're watching "fox & friends." oh! >> remember he was a fill-in host here? he did three hours. did a lot of the international relations segments. >> i don't remember. >> i know. he did a segment when he was very in touch with his emotions. >> i'll be darn. then he could probably identify that die-up sound. >> he probably could. >> remember those old days? that's coming up in a minute. right now, ainsley earhart joins us today. heather nauert has the day off. you're in her shoes. >> i am. let me start with this, an update to a missing person's story we first told you about yesterday. 21-year-old lucius roby has been missing for a week after he didn't show up to college at the university of montana.
now this surveillance footage from a chevron station in garden valley, idaho, appears to show his green subaru. you can see it there. it was last seen on tuesday. search teams and volunteers are now scouring the mountains of the boise national forest for any signs of him or signs of his car. kenneth long was the last person to see roby and he's going to join us live about 15 minutes with the latest on this search. a united airlines flight heading from newark to denver forced to land in chicago because of a battle over leg room. a passenger using a banned knee defender device, you can see it there, to stop the woman in front of him from reclining. the knee defender essentially locked her seat into place so she couldn't move back. that made her angry. flight attendant intervened, asked the man to remove the gadget, but he refused. that's when the passengers got into an argument. the furious female even threw her water on the guy. both passengers were kicked off the plane when it landed in chicago and they were both seated in economy plus, which
already gave them four extra inches of leg room. batteryies in the apple iphone 5 turning rotten. apple recalling the iphone 5 because the batteries no longer hold their charges. the company saying it is a very small percentage of those phones. brian apparently has one -- that will need their battery replaced. to see if your phone is eligible, head to apple's web site and enter in your serial number. >> i need something else to do. >> i'll do it for you. "breaking bad" broke good. the tv show dominating the emmy awards almost a year after going off the air. >> and the emmy goes to "breaking bad". >> "breaking bad" took home six emmys, including best drama series. bryan cranston picked up the award for the lead actor. anna gun and aaron paul won for their supporting roles. "modern family" becoming the first sitcom since "frazier" to
win five emmys in a row. and a moving tribute by billy crystal to the late robin williams. >> as a genius as he was on stage, he was the greatest friend you could ever imagine for almost 40 years. he was the brightest star in the comedy galaxy. robin williams, what a concept. >> and did you see this steamy moment? julia louis-dreyfus getting quite the surprise from a former "seinfeld" co-star. >> you look so much like the actor in "seinfeld" who played the dentist that i dated. >> she's won five emmys and had 18 nominations. >> he was on "seinfeld." yeah. >> she took home the best actress emmy for "veep." those are your headlines. >> in watching the emmys last
night, i was shocked how little network television we watch now. >> yeah. >> it's all about cable and streaming. >> what about our own bill o'reilly was nominated for "jfk," but he did not walk away with it. >> hanging out with rob lowe. >> thank you very much, ainsley. >> thanks. we got a fox news alert. the united states has started flying drones over syria. apparently until today we weren't. >> this move authorized by president obama over the weekend brings the u.s. one step closer to an all-out air assault in the region. >> and by the way, did we ask syria, should we ask syria? peter doocy at the white house. it's going to be a big day. >> reporter: brian, it's been a big week. the week here at the white house started with the obama administration trying to clarify that when president obama said isis falls into the jv category of terrorists, he just meant at the time that they had no designs on attacking the west.
but now president obama wants to have a look at the of fire power isis is working with, so he's order these surveillance flights over parts of syria that isis controlled and we have heard in the last few minutes those flights have begun. >> we've been looking at syria from across the border with very high altitude observation for a long time. now he's given permission to fly drones over syria. this is a step process of increasing surveillance and reconnance over time, gather the information, and eventually i'll guarantee you, we're going to start bombing them. >> reporter: a syrian official, though, is warning the white house not to start with air strikes unless president al assad signs off. you remember, though, president obama said in no uncertain terms that assad must step down. so now the white house is having to explain that any potential air strike would be an american interest. not an assad interest.
>> the incident is no, we're not interested in trying to help the assad regime. in fact, we have been calling for a number of years now for the assad regime to step down. >> reporter: most of the president's day will be spent going to charlotte for an merge legion convention. but when he gets back, he has a meeting with the secretary of state, john kerry, on the schedule. back to you. >> all right. peter doocy, i'm sure the president will get a warm reception at the american legion later today. >> you're being sarcastic, right? think about what he's done to the military. think about what's happened with the v.a. >> are you talking defunding, underestimating, undermining the cost that would be need to do defend against something like an isis that could pop up and surprise us? >> like i said, a warm reception. meanwhile, the white house had a lot of explaining to do. we've been telling you about how general dempsey a couple of days ago said the ohm way to take out isis is to go into syria and do
something there. then he walked it back and he said essentially, you know, isis is just kind of regional. yesterday josh earnest was asked about the president who said in january to the new yorker magazine that isis was just a jv team. keep in mind, the president just last week referred to it as a cancer that needed to be dealt with. so we were going to play josh earnest trying to spin his way out of that and that will be followed by lieutenant colonel allen west who doesn't think that mr. earnest is honest. >> the president was not singling out isil. he was talking about the very different threat that is posed by a range of extremists around the globe. many of them do not have designs on attack the west or attacking the united states. and that is what puts them in stark contrast to the goals and capability of the previously existing al-qaeda core network that was led by osama bin laden.
>> when i listened to those comments made by josh earnest, those were inane, incoherent, incompetent, and absolutely idiotic. what josh earnest is doing and the obama administration is doing is trying to relegate and define isis in a term or an ideology that fits into their own national security strategy so they don't have to take an action. >> if the president was being candid and honest, he could say, hey, i totally underestimated what they can do and i was too slow off the mark and maybe in retrospect we shouldn't have pulled all our troops out. so as fallujah fell, we should have said that's a little bit of an issue. >> but al-qaeda was on the run, remember? >> right. that would have been trouble. but he had already won reelection and there is wrong with the president saying i misjudged and underestimated. you can say fdr misjudged japan. never thought they would bomb pearl harbor. oops. that happened. but in the big picture, i think the president has not come up with a plan yet to stop isis,
whether it's jv or varsity, and i think it's staggering to find out later that egypt and the united arab emirates had their own aerial campaign in libya without even telling us. these are allies of ours and we're pretty much in control of that region. that shows how little trust and little interest people have in checking with us 5 1/2 years after they were afraid of us. >> state department officials thursday estimate 12,000 fighters in 50 country, including up to 100 americans joined radicals fighting. we now know this is a big deal. why they're walking it back, we're not sure. why the president doesn't seem to have a handle on it verbally as a cancer. is this the worst thing we've yet to come and see. why doesn't he want to get a grip on it, many are asking. >> meanwhile, let's talk about the scandal. remember it was lois lerner who apologized to tea party groups and conservatives that the irs illegally targeted them. then there were lawsuits where people tried to get the e-mail to make sure whether or not the
white house was coordinating with lois lerner. well, then we learned that all the e-mails were gone because she had a crashed hard drive, blah, blah, blah, the dog ate my homework. as it turns out, judicial watch, which has filed freedom of information act lawsuits to get to the bottom of it, they were told by irs attorneys on friday, according to the man who runs it, that lois lerner's e-mail and all government records are backed up in case of a government-wide catastrophe. so her e-mail do exist. but government attorneys say it's too complicated to get them out. here is tom now. >> everything we've been hearing about scratched hard drives, about missing e-mails with lois lerner, other irs officials, other officials in the obama administration, it's all been a pack of malarky. they could get these records, but they don't want to and they haven't told anyone about it.
frankly until we were able to get it out of them on friday. >> see how much it costs to get the records. >> chairman issa is saying he wants a close door questioning again of koskinen. >> i'm sure that will go well. coming up, a bombshell report claiming that special forces mission that tried to rescue james foley from isis was delayed because the president feared for his own image. karl rove on deck to weigh in on that. and it's a top secret weapon that could hit any target in the world within hours. it's not a secret anymore because it failed and we taped it.
breaking right now, a live look in texas where a house went up in flames overnight. you can see the smoke still smoldering. a charred mess indeed. fire crews still on the scene. at least one person was hospitalized and officials believe a gas explosion may be to blame. steve? >> in other news, the white house doesn't seem to be able to commit to a strategy to defeat isis. yesterday the press secretary even saying the president hasn't
figured out what to do about syria. >> in terms of giving an update on the status, i'm not in a position to do that beyond saying the president has not made a decision to order military action in syria. >> really? here to discuss fox news contributor karl rove. what's he saying there? >> he's saying they haven't made a decision, they're still thinking. they've been thinking about this for about six weeks, ever since isis exploded across the northern part of iraq. they have been befuddled and hyped the 8 ball and they continue to be. >> is it denial or procrastination? >> look, normally -- let's go back to last week. on tuesday the secretary of state comes out and says we must crush isis. they must be destroyed. on thursday we have this extraordinary press conference with hagel, secretary of defense, and martin dempsey, chairman of the joint chiefs where they say we got to go after isis. they're a real threat. hagel says they're bigger than anything we faced before and dempsey says if we're going to get them, we have to get them in syria to destroy their command
and control nodes. normally you would take the secretary of state, the secretary of defense and the chairman of the joint chiefs as indicating more importantly, we had ben rhodes, the deputy national security director, completely political guy, he comes out and says they're dangerous. you would assume that the president was moving towards that. but then we had search dee walk -- search see walk it back yesterday. >> look. they're confused. the president has been disengaged as he has been on these big foreign policy questions. but they have to sort it out. the pressure from congress, the pressure from the international community is what does america intend to do? >> the military has been cut to the bones. the only thing the president has cut. now we're asking the aircraft carrier to move into the region, continue to fight in afghanistan. maybe take on an aerial campaign in, while putting advisors in syria and iraq. at what point does the military says you can't do this while giving pink slips?
>> the military will tell them that. you're right. the defense cuts have been deep. >> 19 40s level. >> yeah. in the process of getting there. and my hope is that this will cause the administration to rethink its priorities. >> one of the reasons the administration suddenly started thinking about isis and doing something about it is the beheading of jim foley that was youtubed and disseminated across the country. what's curious is there was a report in the sunday times of london that said special operators apparently gave the president a planning to and try to rescue them, but he sat on it so long, the information was stale and when they got there, he was gone. >> yeah. we do know -- we don't know the details about this. it will be interesting to see if this times report is accurate. you had tony on this morning who affirmed it. but we need to find out more about t. first of all, we know one of the most perishable things in intelligence is things like the whereabouts of high
valued targets and high value captives. so it's very perishable so you need to move quickly. the second thing we know is look, the administration, we lack assets in the region. i mean, i don't believe the administration was completely unaware of the threat of isis, but they were clearly surprised when it exploded through northwestern iraq and it's because we frankly have very few assets on the ground that can collect and evaluate the intelligence that's available. >> right. >> now we've got some drones. karl rove, thank you. >> thanks for having me. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, for two years, this 12-year-old has been running a lemonade stand to help pay the bills. so why is one cranky neighbor trying to shut him down? you're going to hear from the young entrepreneur straight ahead. >> he's impressive. and this mom lost 80 pounds. check out her results. how did she do it? with a little help from her friends, of course. these women are starting a mommy movement and you can do it, too.
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time for news by the numbers. first, 169 convicted killers. that's how many murderers the u.s. immigration and customs enforcement have released over the last year. that's comforting. and their names andyvj locatios cannot be released. four seconds. the hype sonic lasted that long before exploding. officials blame a technical glitch. no kidding. finally, four. that's how many states are holding primaries today. voters heading to the polls in vermont, oklahoma, arizona, and florida. now, it's news by the -- that's news by the numbers.
>> thanks. hey, moms out there know how difficult it can be to stay fit while raising a family. our next guest did it together. losing a combined total of 210 pounds through what's called the mommy movement. joining us are the winners of the mommy movement challenge, nina, vanessa and ashley and ryan. congratulations, first of all. >> thank you. >> tell us about the mommy movement and your winning. >> having a sense of community within our groups to encourage each other, motivate each other, stay inspired. hard sometimes to stay motivated and we did that together. >> you actually were together. you knew each other before hand? >> yes. we're all co-workers. >> the power of this group is actually what got you through. you lost was a total of 210 pounds in 12 weeks. exceptional. you get to come to new york city, watch shows, get a makeover. >> yes. >> for a mom, that's great. i want to show everyone your before and afterment this is
your before. you see that here. and you lost a total of 80 pounds? >> yes. >> you're 45 years old. proud of that, i know. smiling indeed. >> what about this made it easy for you? >> the support of everybody, encouragement, knowing i wasn't doing it alone. when you overeat, do you it by yourself. i wasn't lonely. i had a community of friends and co-workers. >> moms love moms. vanessa, you lost how much? >> 65 pounds. >> so let's look at your before and after here. look at that. i see your smile. you're 37 years old. >> yes. >> you love the group here. were there any setbacks? when you have a group like this, does that help you? >> definitely helps, especially if you're impatient. if you're at work with people doing it with you, you're not going to have a burger and fries at your desk. they're holding you accountable. that's the best part. >> so i want to ask you, because ashley, you lost 15 pounds.
you all look fantastic. >> thank you. >> are you the youngest of the group? >> i just turned 30, so yes. >> happy birthday. >> thank you. >> i want to ask you, ashley, your before and after, let's look at this. you look good there. this book i know helped you. but were you all working out as well? was this purely food based? >> working out as well. 45 minutes walking, running, something like that. >> together or on your own, just letting each other know where you were? >> on your own. >> ryan, take a look at your birthday before and after. look at this. how much weight did you lose? >> i actually lost a total of 56 pounds. >> feel great? >> i feel amazing. especially because i did it before in my 20s and it was really hard. so embracing my 30s and feeling good is always the best way to start a new era in your life. >> so radio mamas. you certainly found success
here. are you going to continue? >> yes, oh, yes. >> definitely. >> i have another 20 to get off. >> i think y'all look fantastic. "lean for life," this book, how does this help you implement this diet, this movement? >> the best part is being able to work it throughout our program. when we have questions or not sure about something, when we need a suggestion for something else that we can eat or where to go out to eat or something like that, it's been really, really -- i still refer to it even though i read it like ten times now. it's good to have it as a reference. >> that's a big volume there. congratulations to you all. >> thank you. >> mommy movement has inspired i'm sure moms out there. >> thanks for our makeovers. >> oh, yes. we got makeovers and everything. new york and company definitely helped us with styling. actually during our trip. so it was really great having that, feeling beautiful, so wonderful. >> happy birthday. >> thank you. appreciate that. >> thank you for being with us.
mommy movement, the proof is right here in the pudding. or no pudding. >> right. >> love the support from the moms. thank you all. >> thank you. >> hey there, steve. >> hey, thank you very much. great segment. coming up, brand-new developments in the michael brown shooting case out in ferguson, missouri. police now look at a new piece of evidence possibly giving a clearer picture of what went down that day. >> that would help. and tony stewart still mia from the racetrack since the spring car crash that killed a fellow racer. ryan reed joins us live to weigh in on that and also racing with diabetes, all that and more. ♪ ♪u98ñ ú1en%ú;
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day. >> we sure have. we have more to bring you right now. ainsley earhart joins us with the headlines. >> thank you. new audio recording claims to have captured the very moment that officer darren wilson opened fire on the 18-year-old. on that recording which has not been verified or widely released, 11 shots are allegedly fired. an autopsy shows brown was hit six times. this as thousands gathered inside a st. louis church paying final respects, family, friends, celebrities and strangers among the reverend al sharpton calling for justice in a wild speech criticizing police. >> this is about justice. this is about sadness. it's time to;dx deal with poli. justice is gonna come. justice is gonna come! >> a grand jury set to resume hearing evidence tomorrow to
determine if the officer will be charged. this as the f.b.i. interviews witnesses as part of a justice department investigation. a football player turns hero when he jumps into action, literally, to save his nephew's life. josh shaw, star defensive back for the university of southern california, was at his cousin's house when all of a sudden his 7-year-old nephew started drowning in the pool down below. shaw jumped off a second story balcony onto the concrete to finally pull that boy to safety. shaw sprained both of his ankles, forcing him to be sidelined. but despite the risk to his season, as well as his career, shaw says he would do it all over again. the iconic line from "jaws" you're going to need a bigger boat, written in the sand. this morning after a great white was spotted yards from the shore line at a massachusetts beach. it's believed to be 15 feet long. swimmers were kept out of the water for two hours. the beach is now back open with a warning, swim at your own
risk. a florida man sour on a boy's lemonade stand. he e-mailed city hall at least four times about this 12 yearly's business in an attempt to shut it all down. he claims the lemonade stand is illegal and brings lots of noise and trash. the little entrepreneur, t.j., joined us earlier and says that is not the case. >> it does kind of make me upset, the fact that he's kind of lying because nobody does that. but everybody else has supported me so much, so that just brings me right back up. >> t.j. says that he's been hard at work running that stand for two years now to help his mother pay her bills. remember using netscape to browse the internet? yep. well, kids started college this year, they do not remember that. the deloitte college put out a list to show how different life is for those kids born in 1996.
any time that they see wired rim glasses, they say they think of harry potter. not john lennon. and the pound button on the phone is now called the hashtag button. those are your headlines. >> time marches on. thank you very much. in other news, the search continues for a missing 21-year-old montana student. he was last seen a week ago today wrapping up his summer job as a guide at cascade raft and kayak in horseshoe bend, idaho. he was headed to his student orientation at the university of montana, but he never showed up. this morning new surveillance footage from a chevron gas station 20 minutes from where he was last seen is helping searchers narrow down the search area. kenneth long is the owner of kayak raft and -- cascade raft
and kayak where he was last seen and he joins us live this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i understand that lucius worked for you the last two summers at your family 4÷ busin. when he took off last tuesday, what did he say? >> you know, he said good-bye to everybody. he said that he was going to take a two-day drive up to montana for college and that he was excited to get up there and get going. >> so if he said he was going to take a couple of days to drive up there. and we've got this image from the chevron gas station in garden valley, idaho,$ñ i know that folks were unsure which route he might have taken. the fact that he's seen near that gas station tells you what? >> it tells us that he took one of two;ñ&ñ possible routes to go montana. so it makes the search area --
cuts it in half. it takes out the north route on highway 55 and allows us to look moore toward the garden valley, lowman area as opposed to wondering which direction that he went. >> all right. so they narrowed it down by half. so if he said as he was setting out, i'm going to take two days to drive to college, does that mean he would have been planning on doing some hiking along the way or some camping? did he have the supplies -- did he have a tent or would he just have stayed there in his subaru legacy? >> no, he definitely should have had the supplies. he was camping all summer, most of the -- we have a camp ground that we provide for the guys. so they do camp most of the summer. so he would have broken down his camp and presumably had all of that stuff in his car. so he definitely would have had those supplies. >> i understand some of the staff there at your place is actually helping in the search,
right? >> that is correct. yeah. many of the staff who have not left for their college for the winter have been looking in some of the camp grounds in the vicinity and driving up and down some of the forest service roads where he could have potentially gone off and maybe done hiking or kayaking. >> let's hope they're able to locate him safely. and he just lost track of the time in high country. >> absolutely. >> kenneth long, the owner of cascade raft and kayak, thank you very much. by the way, if anybody watching has any information, we're going on the screen, if you could just back the teleprompter up. it was the boise county sheriff's office, the telephone number is 208-392-4411. brian and elisabeth, outside to
you. >> he has now missed his third race since the death of ken ward, junior. joining us right now is somebody special. >> ryan reed, we are so thankful that you're here. saw you on twitter yesterday and as brian just mentioned, a lot of talk about tony stewart aft%[ he went intod4 kevin ward, junir from potentially all angles to see what his intent was. what's your gut instinct there in terms of what happened? >> yeah. thoughts and prayers go out to both sides. that's an awful situation. i wasn't there. tape. but i wasn't there, so it's really hard to form an opinion. but thoughts and temporaries go out. >> do you think tony will be back racing? >> i hope so. he's a great racer. i have a lot of respect for him. but like i said, thoughts and prayers. >> people thought about chaining things, you're not going to be able to walk on the track. is that something you look forwardw5 to? >> i think it's probably a good rule.
i know that tempers flare and it's easy to hop out of the car and show your displeasure. i think all in all it's a good rule. >> you're 21-years-old, you've been racing since you were five, maybe? >> four. >> four. gosh. that's incredible. you're doing this and you have an excessive responsibility. you had diabetes, diagnosed three years ago? >> at 17 years old. >> there is somebody on your pit crew who can do what for you? >> giti je an insulin injection during a pit stop if needed. >> that's incredible. what a group to have behind you at all times. does it make it more difficult for you or just sort of another bump in the road? >> there isnjfw definitely challenges. it's definitely been a transition. i raced before i was diagnosed and afterment it's been a transition, but i have a great sports team withç doctors and american diabetes association, they're all behind me. so i know that i can do it with all their help. it's been a lot of fun. >> you're 9th in the point
standings right now. you're going to be racing atlanta this weekend. >> yep. >> you look so young. even though you're 20, you look so young. do you ever have trouble getting on the track? >> no. luckily i have a hard card that says i'm a driver. that makes it easier to get in and out of the track. being young. you have to earn your keep, i guess. >> some of the veterans give you a hard time? >> oh, yeah. >> is this the car you're racing? >> not this exact one, but it looks just like it. >> do you mind if and i take a trip in it? >> go for it. >> look at this. take a look inside this car. explain here, when you're sitting, you have the protection around your head. do you have anything in here for yourself in terms of diabetic rescue or is it just your pit crew? >> no. i have a monitor on the dash. i wireless monitor my blood sugar on the dash.
>> we wish you well. thanks for stopping by. >> congratulations. >> steve, tell me what you have planned for the last 25 minutes. >> we've got a fox news alert. northern california just hit with another aftershock from the 6 earthquake. we are live with the latest on the ground from napa where that video was taken a couple of days ago. then they showed up forsesz wafs and then they got toasted with the unlimbed cocktails. now neighbors are fighting back by taking pictures of the boozey brunchers. sounds like i've had a couple. is that legal? ♪ ♪
fox news alert. out of napa, california, rick
reichmuth just felt an aftershock. i'm looking at the national weather service. they say it's a 3.9o7b magnitude american canyon, california. >> exactly. the initial earthquake was about six kilometers from that area, napa valley fault line, which is exactly where this winery where we are is. so this aftershock right in the exact same area. 3.9. we moved out of this area with these barrels. you see the barrels that had toppled over during the initial quake. now if anything had resettled with this, we just came out here to be more safe. >> we talked before about an early warning system being in the works. do you have any updates on that? >> reporter: yeah. it's a really fascinating project that's out there. there is a way -- the speed at which a wave from an earthquake moves through the land that can actually get digitally signal out and warnings to people before that wave hits them. so during this earthquake that
just occurred two days ago, they got ten seconds notice of the system in a test. they believe that there is capacity that they could give people as much as 40 seconds advance notice of an earthquake coming, which could get people out of elevators, could get fire trucks to be able to open their doors so they could get out of their fire department, could allow people to get into safe spots in their houses. we talked yesterday to somebody from the usgs. take a listen to what he said about how this works. >> the early warning system uses sensors spread out all over the state and it detects earthquakes very, very rapidly, determines their size and their location and can actually send alert messages out faster than the seismic waves are moving. so you can get a warning before the seismic waves reach your location. >> reporter: yeah. this is super important, potentially really life saving. the problem is they need funding. they need congress to potentially get funds out there to get this system in place.
california obviously the threat of a big earthquake and it's something they hope they can maybe get funding out and get this in place just in time. guys? >> sounds like it would take at least $80 million, where does that come from? rick reichmuth live in napa where this just had a 3.9 aftershock. 11 minutes before the top of the hour. sign of the times, the majority of americans want to make it illegal for kids to go to the playground by themselves. should a walk in the park really be a crime for the parents? we asked you to send an e-mail. you've done it. first let's check in with martha mccallum. she promised to tell us what's on her show. >> who grew up playing by myself in the park. >> we all did. >> good morning. big show coming up today. the u.s. has now begun drone and surveillance in the skies over syria. so what happens next? general jack keane will tell us. and the white house tries to back pedal the jv characterization of isis. and the real shark week gets
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some quick headlines for you. a top model in court for stealing chocolate bars from whole foods. the dutch beauty was told by the judge to stand up straight and uncross her arms. since she's never left the store with the bars, she was given probation, then she told reporters to watch for her at fashion week. and one new york neighborhood is up in arms over the boozey patrons from an all you can eat brunch. footage posted on youtube shows patrons hunched over, falling on the ground and this is all before 3 p.m management says they are working
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was 98-71. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that is it for this special report. fair, balanced and unafraid. greta goes trord right now, special report online in two seconds. >> did president obama just confuse you? so which is it? destroy isis or manage isis? can't be both. in his first comment since the beheading of a second american journalist. president obama contradicting himself, changing his message halfway through today's speech. >> our objective is clear. and that is to degrade and destroy isil and those who make the mistake of harming americans learn that we will not forget and that our reach is long and that justice will be served. >> we know that if we are joined by the international community, we can continue to shrink isil's sphere of
influence, it's effectiveness, it's financing, its military capabilities to the point where it is a manageable problem. >> joining us our political panel the national review jim garety the hill review a.b. stoddard and byron york. are we nitpicking or did he change? what's the story? >> no we are not nitpicking. the president has caught himself in a cycle of statements and clarifications. first came the we don't have a strategy. then age tried to clarify and then the president's statement today was a clarification of that statement. now, mark my words, is he going to have to clarify what he said today. and i think what you are seeing in washington is there is r. are a number of people, democrats included who are kind of looking past the president and saying we need to get a strategy in place. there are democrats now who are introducing legislation that would authorize the use
of military force in syria, not covered by the authorization for iraq right now. i think they are just going to go ahead, regardless of what the president says right now. >> you know, a.b., there is a big difference between degrade and destroy. and let's face it, they are trying -- they are not just trying to killing people, they are killing people. manage the home depot or wal-mart. you kill and destroy people who are killers. it seems pretty plain to me what we should be doing. and so i wonder if it's -- >> -- i don't think his stomach is in it yet because he is allowing officials throughout his administration, jen socket, state department actually used the phrase yesterday the goal is to destroy isil but -- and she interrupts. she you see the defense secretary, the chairman of the joint chiefs, the pentagon spokesman everybody say words to this effect this is unprecedented threat. something we have never seen before. of course america is a target and there is a threat to the homeland, this can
cannot be contained. it can only -- it must be destroyed and byron is right. the democrats who come back to town next week and are facing a panicked electorate, what is isis? what is isil? what is going on here? are looking for not only a strategy but a goal. there is nothing coming out of president obama's mouth about what he sees this threat -- what it represents are and what has to be done. he doesn't have to give the details of the strategy, but he is not engaging the public on the poo tensey of the threat. >> if you combined what president obama said today with what vice president joe biden was saying elsewhere in the country, you end one a philosophy which we are going to manage them to the gates of hell. if you are a war time president, you are seeing americans getting beheaded, i don't want the commander and chief to sound like espn dan patrick saying we can't stop them but we are going to hope to contain them. is there a certain level of beheadings that would be acceptable to this administration? >> you bring up vice president biden i think we had the sound bite just to
show the contrast for the viewers. this is vice president biden on what he had to say about oh oh oh we don't have it yet. i'm told we don't have it. >> anyway, it's joe biden yelling basically. >> is it yell or -- yelling or conviction by killers? we will follow terrorists to the gates of hell. isn't that the american people want to hear? >> probably so from the president. we have heard red line comments from the president in the past and he didn't stick with those. i think what the president needs to do is come up with a plan we're going to -- our goal is this and to achieve that goal we are going to do this, this, and this, and i'm going to congress and talk about that and i think the president could impress the american people a lot more by actually having a plan. he doesn't have to give a big speech. >> i think though at least for me, i want some sort of passion or fire in the belly or clarity or direction. but we do have vice president biden right now. here is how vice president biden said it. >> they should know we will follow them to the gates of
hell until they are brought to justice. because hell is where they will reside. >> a.b., if that's not sort of -- we're going to shrink and manage passionate and the president pacific. i don't think the details need to be made public yet. i know they don't have a strategy but when they do they can take their time. the problem is you need to tell america is this a threat to the homeland right-hand we containing or destroying? >> but vice president biden gave away no strategy. what i sort of got like he is going to protect -- at least he has got some fire in his belly on this. >> we have a war time vice president and a peace time president right now. what we need at least biden has the passion. the strategy can come from it. look, we are going to do high feel more secure with the fact that biden is going to get the job done or do
you think president obama is just listening to those two today? >> when you see biden is he pissed as hell that americans is getting -- >> -- tv language. >> they are tikd ticked as hell. i am writing a check to the fcc right now. something to be passionate about. we are managing. >> the only person who can make the case is the president. and so he has got to sign on to a plan and then he has to sell it. and to the american people because they want to hear from him. >> i think he just has to tell us that he is going to do something. you know, and really convince us. he doesn't have to give us the details, anyway. all right. panel, thank you. and president obama is sending those conflicting signals as he begins that european trip to attend the nato summit. fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry is traveling with the president. he joins us live from whales. ed, nice to see you and notice the bar behind you. is that yours?
henry's? >> it says henry's. i have no ownership but i might be there after this live shot, greta. we will see how it goes. >> what's going on, ed? >> bottom line is as you lay that out the white house is pushing back against this saying you don't have to have either/or you can have both. what the president meant was this is a two step process. in the short-term he wants to degrade isis to the point that they are less of a terror threat and then long term destroy them meaning that you are not going to destroy them overnight. this is going to take time. we ever dealing with them in iraq right now and is he still obviously, based on the beating he took at the news conference last week figuring out a strategy to deal with them in syria. problem of course is he is under pressure now not just from republicans but democrats as well. you heard dianne feinstein, the democratic chair of the intelligence committee over the weekend saying he is perhaps too cautious on all of this. now we have got a little pressure today from democratic senators bill nelson as well as mark warner of virginia. both democrats saying, look, you have got to come to congress with a strategy to
actually eliminate isis and, in fact, nelson is now saying he is going to push legislation to authorize u.s. air strikes in syria, something the president is not ready for yet. he has left the door open to that but is he not quite ready for it yet. bottom line is bill nell sob the democratic senator from florida says you have got to go after the head of the snake and that's in syria right now, not iraq. so you see pressure not just from the right but the left as well with folks saying what is the strategy. so the more the president sort of tries -- today was almost a do-over, greta from last week's news conference and he was trying to clarify what he said last week about the no strategy. but then he left it so that white house aides it was so muddled they were clarifying the clarification. that's not any place a president wants to be. it shows that his message is a bit stuck right now as well as the actual substance of the strategy, greta. >> ed, thank you. and first president obama says he didn't have a strategy for syria and now he seems to have a very confusing goal. critics are outraged by what
the president said today. >> our objective is clear. that is to degrade and destroy isil. >> the president at some point used fuzzy words. >> to the point where it is a manageable problem. >> are we going to contain isis or are we going to crush isis and the president has not answered that. >> the lack of having goal and objective unequivocal clear one continues to chase him. >> justice will be served. >> isis, what are we going to do about it? >> kill them. >> and representative jason chaffets joins us. good evening, sir. >> hey, greta. >> is it possible to destroy isis and also simultaneously manage the problem? i mean, i put the question to the panel. we sort of nitpicking or is the president have a confusing message? >> no. it's very confusing. the president seems to be a definite maybe. that is not what we need in the commander and chief of the united states of
america. i think history will show that the president failed to deal with this about a year too late. we should have been dealing with this a year ago. nevertheless we are here today. we need a goal and an objective and then we need a strategy. it does not feel that the president of the united states has his heart into it because the moment he gets off the teleprompter we get this different answer saying it's manageable. manageable? that's when you are closing a lane on the freeway and you have got to go down the freeway with three lanes instead of four then you manage it this is isis they want death and destruction to the united states of america. >> what happens when congress comes back to town and president obama returns from the nato summit? >> well, i think you will see an increasing number of people from both sides of the aisle demanding that the president of the united states put forward an objective it and be candid with the american people as to what was going on. why didn't he deal with this when it was a little bit more contained when it spread into iraq and spread into other places. and now when we hear these
beheadings which are just the most horrific things you see or can hear of. then he is thinking that maybe he ought to get a strategy? come on, mr. president. you have to do better than that. >> on the issues of war we always hope that members of house and the senate and the president rise above politics. and politics has no role in when it comes to war. but i'm curious to what extent we are rapidly approaching the mid terms. are people going to -- i mean, to what extent are members of the house, the senate, and even the president going to be making decisions based on not what's right, necessarily or what is their conviction but on politics. >> if there is a clear and present danger to the united states of america, the president has all the authority he needs right now to deal with it immediately. now, i do think there is strength in the united states of america in a bipartisan way standing up strong the way we do consistently in support of israel, for instance. but we have got to come together as a nation. set this aside. this is not political theater here. >> what does that mean
though? because, look, we can't get isis unless we go into syria. let's face it that's where isis is starting. nobody wants to admit that. and all the generals say we can't get them from the air. and so that's code for we have got to have boots on the ground. nobody wants to put boots on the ground. everybody is war weary. no wants to do that where are we right now if we want to kill isis, what are we going to do? >> we have to have the human intelligence. we have to have the signals intelligence. we have to act upon that intelligence in an immediate way. we have to form an international coalition of people. not listening to the u.n. but actually leading people. joining together with the saudi arabia and the united arab emirates and others and convincing them we are on the right side of this. i know there is some nefarious actors in that place. look what's going on. we have problems and chaos in libya. we have problems in egypt. we just have a foreign policy that over the last four and a half, five years has just fallen off. and we have to deal with it
seriously. the problem is fundamentally, the president of the united states is not believed by the rest of the country. they don't trust him. they don't believe him. we have to get that credibility back. >> and how does he do that? we only have 30 seconds left but how do you get that? >> look. when the president puts out a red line, you have to act upon it. we are the united states of america. when our united states military is given a task, they will get it done. i have no doubt about their capability. but when it's ambiguous, when it's politically correct. when it's trying to be something that's just all these different nuances, then it doesn't work. and that's the fundamental problem. we started to have that problem. we had that problem in iraq and having that problem with isis. we are having that problem with president obama. that's the fundamental problem. elections have consequences and this is one of the consequences. >> congressman, thank you and we look forward to having you on the set when you get back to town. thank you, sir. >> thanks, greta. >> now to disturbing and maybe even terrifying new
information about one of the americans who went to syria to fight for isis and got killed in battle. turns out before he left to join isis in syria, he worked at minneapolis saint paul international airport. now, reporter tom wyden broke that story. he joins us with the very latest. thank you for joining us. tell me who is this man? where did he work? >> you know, all great questions, greta. late this afternoon the airport confirmed our reporting from last night and also filled in the details of that work history you are talking about and some of the items on the resume quite frankly are going to cause real concern the airport knew muhammad by his real name ahmed. law enforcement sources confirm we are dealing with the same man. he worked at the airport 2001 and may 2011 and had access to the tarmac and planes. for most of that time he worked fueling up the planes themselves most recently though 2010, 2011 he worked cleaning planes.
part of that job also was securing the planes. that was for delta global services which is owned by delta airlines. for both jobs he held security clearance secure identification display area you need an fbi back ground check to get that clearance but allows you to skip the metal detectors to get right on to the airport tarmac. the checkpoints involve a fairly cursory inspection of the vehicles going through. we don't know under what circumstances he left his job in may of 2011. the airport says it doesn't know. delta won't comment except to say it is aware of our reporting and working with local law enforcement. greta, can i tell to you some extent the chronology is going to come as a relief to law enforcement because it appears from social media accounts he was radicalized later than 2011 after he left the airport. around 2013, socialed me a count shifted from talking about women and dating. he was a bit of a player four wives, nine kids to talking about fighting and dying for a lie. last year he made that shift. >> maybe fbi feels better
about that. i don't feel better somebody gets fbi check. works on a tarmac a reporter who exposed this. we didn't hear this from the airport or delta. the fact that he has changed what his content of social media doesn't make me feel a whole lot better. but what i do want to know do we know how he got into isis? >> that is stills a mystery what the recruiting level on the ground. obviously i was reporting back in 2007, we broke the story about the 20 minnesota some mall i didn'ts who went to fight for al shabaab. we believe that this a whole different recruiting apparatus than what we are talking about today there were indictments for that case. we don't know how the recruiting was going down. people on the ground here recruiting or done mostly through social media at internet. you mention not feeling so great about this we didn't know about it? >> i will throw one other wrinkle. we didn't know about this alias until two hours ago. with the somali community
here in minneapolis of them come toifficult this country not knowing their exact date of birth. their date of birth lists january 1st, 1972 because they don't know their birthday and also many of these clan names are very very similar. we have done stories where you can have two different individuals same name, same date of birth it gets very very confusing and appears to be confusing in this case as well. >> american people big thanks to you for breaking this story. they will look a lot closer at a lot of people. if people hadn't been broking locking our seat so the person in front of us couldn't recline, thank you. >> sure. >> while president obama sends mixed message the first arab country to condemn isis making a statement that is bold and is certain. ambassador john bolton is here next. plus, where has this been? brand new surveillance video. 18 cameras capturing what happened at the border the night sergeant tahmooressi
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it is a manageable problem. >> a manageable problem. that is one of the ways president obama talked about isis today.
but we are now hearing much stronger and yes straightforward language from the first arab country to condemn isis. a statement from the united arab emirates saying now is the time to it act the uae is ready to join. the international community sustained effort to threat unchecked will leave global ramification torres gek cadz to come. former u.n. ambassador john bolton joins us. uae coming out strong swinging. >> a very good friend to the united states, i think he and his government see is that if somebody doesn't stand up to the islamic state that the first victims will be arab governments friendly to the united states. i think this is very important. very unusual for the uae to be that far out front. i think they are representing a number of other arab governments on the peninsula there. and i think what they are begging for at this point is american leadership. >> you have got david cammeron who has got rather strong language as well. what is sort of interesting is tomorrow going into the nato conference that
everyone thought that it would be all ukraine. there could be a lot of isis discussion because, you know, this does have broad ramifications. >> i think the europeans are are extraordinarily concerned about the hundreds, maybe thousands of people fighting with isis right now who have pass pordz to come back into their countries and perhaps obama hasn't figured out that we're similarly at risk. but the europeans see it very very acute maybe that will help wake him up but i doubt it. >> the man who worked isis fighter, american, who worked for 10 years the a minneapolis airport fueling planes and cleaning plans planes with a security clearance and the fbi didn't know about him. >> i think that's a failure by the fbi. no question about it. but the failure by the president is his world view. his ideology. he will not admit that this threat is real. he won't see it as a war. and, therefore, he won't act to do something about it this press conference today which everybody has remarked about is the -- reflects the triumph of ideology over
your script writers. because they told him who what to say degrade and destroy. but then when he got a chance to answer questions, what came out was what he actually believes. he does believe you can make it a manageable problem because it's a law enforcement issue. it's not a war. >> well, look, the first -- we have had two beheadings of americans. and the worst video. it's hard to think of, you know, it's almost seems inevitable -- isis has threatened to kill those two and they did it they have threatened to come to the united states and do things here. i don't know why we would think that suddenly they wouldn't follow through. their record are, they are 2-ofor their threats. >> they're killing americans. that gives the president full power under the constitution to defend the united states and its citizens. whether he goes to congress for authorization or not, i don't think he needs it but the fact is i think the people are way ahead him. that's why you see democrats rushing to introduce authorizations to use
military force because they see themselves in peril if somebody in their party doesn't act. but it will be. >> that bothers me. then we go -- i hate the political aspect of it. i hope that, you know, in the issue of warp, that, you know, we look beyond that. >> we should but he doesn't see it as a war. and i will just give you one example. to quote from him back in 2009, referring to afghanistan to try and -- people are trying to tease him out in an abc news interview what's your objective in afghanistan he said the following: i'm always worried about using the word victory because, you know, it invokes the notion of emperor coming down and signing a surrender to mcarthur. now, obviously the president didn't study much american history at college because he didn't sign the instrument of surrender. he says flat out i'm worried about this word victory if you are in a war, that's the only legitimate objective and he won't declare the war. he won't acknowledge the war. and he won't go for victory. >> ambassador, thank you,
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strike the necks of your people. 18 cameras rolling at the u.s. check point when and where he was arrested. >> what is your emergency? >> my problem is i crossed
the border by accident and i have three guns in my truck. >> so you are in mexico? >> yeah. >> there is nothing i can help you with. >> did you ever intend to drive into mexico? >> no. i told them i said i have all my stuff back here plus i have three guns but i didn't mean to be in mexico it was an accident. a military officer come, found me guilty from the beginning and made me sign paperwork that i -- it was like a math equation in his head, three guns, man, equals prison, what could the surveillance video show and how could it help free our marine. his lawyer joins us from tijuana. good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. thanks for having me. >> good to have you. those tapes will either help or hurt sergeant tahmooressi. it will either corroborate his statements or it will help the mexican authorities. you have seen the tapes or do you know what it shows?
they are strictly video footage not audio from the screen. there are 18 cameras. the defense asked for each and every camera that was deployed at the customs check point. however, we suspect that andrew's image will appear only on some of them and we might, of course, get redundant footage from different angles but, basically, what we intend to prove, first and foremost is his prolonged detention at the border inspection station at the secondary inspection area for what amounted to almost 8 hours. that's the main purpose of viewing the tapes. >> you have heard from the prosecutor or from any witness in the case that he was acting in a way at the border which suggests he was trying to hide something or
obnoxious or trying to avoid detention or do you hear the flip side and cooperative and guns were in the car? what are you hearing might be showing on the tape and what are you hearing from people who were there? >> well, the initial written report by the customs officers is pretty abstract it does not lend itself to that interpretation. it only says what andrew's arrival time was and the step-by-step procedure for reviewing an inspection of the vehicle. however, however, when the officers were questioned at several past hearings, they insisted that communication with andrew was forth right and forth coming. and they insist that they spoke in english which i have serious doubts to that. andrew has always said that they were speaking in spanish and that only at the end of his incursion in that
secondary inspection area was he made available, some summary translation of what was happening. but he wasn't involved in the conversation as it took place because he couldn't because of the language barrier. so, i think a lot gets lost in translation. picture tells a thousand words. we will hope to see if this footage croshtsz his version, i believe it will. the most important version is his detention of 7 and a half hours. >> signs or clean them up at that exit or change so others are less likely to make a mistake? >> yes, they have. immediately following andrew's arrest bigger and more visible signs were placed and i believe if anything else, this case has served the purpose of making
people aware that there is a possibility of accidently driving in to the customs inspection area. >> am i correct in that the mexican law is to violate the mexican law you have to intend to bring the guns into the country against the law so that an accidental driving into the mexico would not be a violation? you actually have to have the intent? >> that's exactly right, greta. under mexican law, this particular offense requires criminal intent whereby to argue the contrary point, this is not an offense that could be committed accidently or negligently. so, prosecutor needs to prove criminal intent and direct will to commit the crime on the part of the defendant. that has not happened yet. so, we believe that once the trial is over, we will of course, prevail and andrew will be acquitted.
>> fernando, thank you, the next court hearing is tuesday. thank you very much, fernando. >> thank you. >> >> let's go off the record for answer m why are we justout? 18 cameras with surveillance tape on mexican border check point where and when sergeant tahmooressi entered mexico. that's huge. those 18 cameras of tapes could tell or corroborate whether he committed a crime whether he intended to violate mexico's gun law or mistakenly entered the country and happened to have his law lawfully registered gunness his possession. one is a crime, the other is not. those tapes could be crucial evidence. they might show his demeanor was he obnoxious and defiant or confused and compliant obeying every direction suggesting it's one big mistake. there is no audio.
it could help tend to corroborate. beyond that one thing is certain those tapes should have been seen by the judge months ago. that's what this is. mexico doesn't give a damn and apparently neither does the obama administration. they never pushed to have this case fast tracked. as a consequence our marine has been sitting in a prison not able to speak the language. not knowing what to expect. sergeant tahmooressi needs the judicial process sped up. tomorrow is not justice. it's cruel. get it done. let's move this forward. that's my off-the-record comment tonight. straight ahead is as president obama and western allies head to the summit. vladimir putin try to pull the rug out underneath nato with a big suggestion. what is the russian president up to now. find out next. boardwalk arcade regulated by a las vegas casino. regulations threatening to put a a family business out of business. that's coming up. you owned your car for four years.
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russian president vladimir putin trying to beat nato to the punch. putin announcing he came up with a 7 point peace plan while he was on a flight from moscow to among goal la. russia ukraine getting close to a cease-fire. ambassador to the organization for security cooperation in europe. ambassador daniel berry. thank you very much for joining us, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> so,ar is, what do you make of this 7 point peace plan. is it an attempt by president putin to beat nato to the punch? >> well, it's actually late to the game. i mean, president poor shenk co-of ukraine has put out a peace plan several months ago when remains a well thought out restructured plan which which we have been encouraging, ukraine has been encouraging and all of ukraine has been encouraging the russians to support. it is certainly curious that president's putin creativity comes right before nato is about to meet. right before u leaders are getting together to decide the next round of sanctions.
what we need from the russians is action, not words at this point. >> how do you think it will be received by nato? i realize that nato is a big organization with about 28 countries. i realize that how do you think this last minute putin peace plan is going to be received? >> well, look. you know, obviously, all along we have been emphasizing that there are opportunities for russia to be a constructive partner to choose an off ramp instead of an escalation and russia has missed those opportunities at every chance. if russia is now ready to be constructive party and engage in decan a late bringing russian troops back off ukrainian soil. deescalate the violence in eastern ukraine, of course there will be support for that there is going to be a great deal of skepticism. we have heard words before and we haven't seen them followed through with action. as nato leaders get together in wales this week obviously concerned about reinforcing security in europe and that will be their focus. >> well, obviously the prime
minister of ukraine is unconvinced. he has said that this is an attempt by putin, by moscow to deceive. so, he is not persuaded by this at all. any last ditch attempt that comes with this curious timing i think is -- warrants great skepticism. at the same time we need to be always at the ready to welcome a diest can a la tore diest could you la move. do you think that the news today that france is going to cancel the delivery of the helicopter carrier is making at least moscow making russia feel the pinch at all? is this something that, you know, is going to have any impact at all? >> sure it has an impact and has an impact as part of a broader, i mean, it's another evidence of how you isolated russia is now in the international community and how isolated it finds itself. and it has an impact in the context of the broader costs that are being imposed on
russia for the irresponsible behavior that has been perpetrated by the kremlin over these last months. >> i don't know why but for some reason i find it a badge of honor to you, tip my hat that the foreign minister of russia is accusing you of boorish behavior. what provoked that and what are your thoughts about that? >> well, you know, this was reportedly in response to the statement that i delivered on behalf of the united states at the osc permanent council last thursday. you know, i gone back and looked at the statement in fact the russian ambassador complained at the time i asked him to point out what he didn't like in that statement. he was unable to and then they put out name calling. you know, if the russian foreign ministry had some counter arguments i would be happy to sit down and talk with them about them. to me and rest of the world, i think it's plain that the russian government has failed to take every opportunity to deescalate
here. this crisis is in part connected to the deep problems russia has at home. we can't see russia's aggression abroad as disconnected from russia's oppression at home. these are no acts that russia takes, no wrong that russia commits abroad will fix any of the problems it has at home with corruption, with restrictions on human rights, et cetera. >> ambassador, i take it, you are not backing down one second from anything you have said and you stand by everything you have said? >> i stand by the statements of the u.s. delegates here, absolutely. you know, and that is not to say that the -- you he know, the objective here is to make a difference, not to make a point. the fact is that the russian government, the kremlin has been making a series of decisions and taking a series of actions, which are counter productive for security in europe. which are counter productive for russia's long-term interests and which they need to be held to account for. it is the responsibility of the international community. this is part of the international system. sometimes there are costs to enforcing and reinforcing the rules of the
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we have a family arcade here on the boardwalk. our job is to make sure kids have fun. >> chris tripper is the owner of marty's play land arcade, landmark on the ocean city boardwalk. >> our family has been operating the amusement park for 100 years. when we added this arcade we thought we were adding something fun for kids to do. >> the gaming commission is about to stop the fun. >> they are going to shut us down by having new regulations to make it impossible to make money. >> in august the state of maryland proposing major new rules for arcades. >> they want to regulate our business as if it's a casino. that's not what we are. what it's going to do is require us to get all these games registered. get the games registered. more fees on top of the taxes i already pay the county and fees i already pay the county and shut down our business. >> electronic games worth more than $30 it will need to get permission from the commission. if they get permission the arcade will pay a auto dollars annual fee for each
and every gaming machine. >> it's really crippling our entire industry because kids, you know, they will play for bouncy boggs and chinese finger trips and handcuffs but kids want to play for bigger prizes than that now. kids have nintendo at home. it's got to be exciting and fun for them. >> do you feel like you are on the same playing field as a casino. >> i'm certainly not on the same playing field as a casino. we don't make casino money we make arcade money. >> all this might mean game over for this ocean city icon. >> as soon as those regulations go into effect, it puts us into a downward spiral that we won't be able to pull out of. all they are doing is limiting the growth of ocean city and shutting down something that's been running for 70 years and running happily. >> and "on the record" will continue to bring you reports on choking capitalism. >> all right. okay. now it's time to show you what we're watching behind the scenes. now take a look. here is what happens when you attach a camera to a
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you way through the news. joan rivers is out of intensive care in a private hospital room in a statement today her daughter melissa saying her mother is being kept comfortable. rivers remains on life support. the comedy legend has been on life support since last thursday when she stopped breathing during a throat procedure. the judge ruling against the family of josh powell in an estate battle. the ruling prevents the powells from collecting assets in the trust when susan is declared dead. susan powell disappeared from her mommy she was never found. josh was the only person of interest when he killed his two sons and them himselves in 2012. "on the record" investigated this case from the very beginning. first time we are hearing from nancy write bowl who survived bohl. >> i just want to express first of all my appreciation to the lord for his grace and for his mercy and for his saving of my life. there were many mornings i woke up and thought i'm
alive. writebol says live saving drug saved her life. >> 2 eruptions in the last few days. so far airline flights have not been affected as they were back in 2010. and malaysia airlines trying to repair its image after two passenger jet disasters. looks like the airline just did more damage. malaysia airlines running online contest called my ultimate bucket list. contest asks customers to describe where he they most want to travel but outraged internet users blasted the contest as insensitive after the two jet disasters that's because a bucket list refers to things people want to do before dying. the airline has changed the wording of the campaign and that's tonight's speed read. thanks for being with us tonight. see you tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. eastern. go to gretawire.com and ape this question: should the
al i'm harris faulkner, this is the fox report. the first person to be diagnosed with ebola in the united states is now fighting for his life. that word from the centers and disease com and prevention folks there. thomas duncan is at a hospital in dallas, texas as you may know by now. his condition worsened this weekend, but now the cdc is saying they're hoping for his recovery, end quote. it's still not clear what his treatment has entailed, although reportedly he has not been receiving any experimental medications for the virus. meanwhile the hunt is on for anybody he came in contact with. and now 50 people are being honored for signs of inf
ineffectation. officials keeping a close eye on some of his family members with whom he was visiting and sharing an apartment and the health care worker who is had very close contact with him. we remind you, there is no other ebola case confirmed anywhere in the america tonight. the cdc is confident the virus will be stopped in its tracks in dallas, texas. still the director, tom freeden says this is a very serious matter, especially for health care workers. >> because it's such a deadly disease, people are scared and it's normal to be scared, in fact for the health care workers who are caring for people with ebola, we want them to be scared, we want them to have a healthy respect of the risk of any lapse in infection control procedure. we want them to channel that fear into being incredibly meticulous at infection control. >> channeling fear from the cdc, we have fox team coverage, let's
go to molly henneburg live in washingto washington. >> they want some kind of a travel ban, two and from countries in africa where there's an ebola outbreak. one gop lawmaker says it's just, quote, common sense. >> the answer is not let people come and then try to isolate them once they're here. the answer is not to let people come in from affected regions into the united states. that's what it seems like to me and most of the people i represent think that we should have some form of travel ban and restricti restriction, to and from the affected area. >> cdc director tom freeden says that a total travel ban will keep aid from getting to where
it's needed the most. >> so you've got some push there for something to be done, any word on what the president is going to do to implement any new safeguards to prevent ebola in the united states. >> the obama administration says it's confident in its procedures in place to combat ebola achkd one advisor says if there are flaws in the system, the plrgs will address those. >> it's important for people to understand, this operation has been happening for seven months in west africa, and this is the first time someone has come to the united states. >> dr. freeden says he expects there will be more reports of suspected ebola cases in the u.s., but he says the american health system can monitor and isolate any such cases. >> molly, thank you very much. now the number of people with whom may have come in contact with the ebola skrivict thomas duncan are dwindling now as the cdc determine who is may
be at high or lerisk. the cdc is adamant that this is key in containing the virus. >> they are adamant about that, cdc in texas have tracked down 14 people who may have come in contact with thomas duncan, 66 people have been cleared, but 38 will currently being honored as low risk individual who is may have come in contact with duncan and 17 are at high risk, of those 17 are health care workers and family or community contact. all are being checked four fevers daily over the next 21 days, but so far no one is showing any ebola symptoms. earlier today, dallas police said they lost track of one of duncan's potential contacts, a homeless man went missing after his temperature was taken yesterday. he has been found and put in housing. as who duncan, he remains in
isolation at the texas presbyterian hospital where he has been for a week. thomas freeden says as far as he knows duncan is not getting the experimental medication. and the second experimental option available is difficult to use and can actually make someone sicker initially. >> you know what? you're watching social media and listening to people, and, brian, people obviously are on edge about this and that's led to a lot of ebola false alarms that we're learning about. >> that's right, people have been talking about it, and the cdc says they've added about 200 possibly ebola scares, but so far no new infections have been found. today doctors in boston say they're confident dr. sakra who
was an american doctor fleeted -- he was admitted to the hospital yesterday and is being treated for an upper respiratory trablct infection. doctors have never heard of people getting ebola twice, but out of an abundance of caution they sent blood work to the cdc for testing. a person with ebola like symptoms checked in to a hospital in dover, delaware yesterday, and is in isolation, we're working to confirm with the cdc. >> thank you very much for bringing us the latest on this. let's turn now to the fight against isis, which right now may be a losing one for kurdish forces on the ground in northern syria. we're getting new reports that isis fighters, many armed with american weapons as you well know like our tanks everything left behind inside iraq they now have, they have now pushed to the northern city kobani, and it
may -- that city sits right on the border with nato ally turkey. one kurdish official says u.s.-led air strikes won't be enough to stop isis's march there. and officials in syria are warning, if isis captures that town, terrible atrocities will be committed for the reason i just gave you, all those refugees that went there. jeff hallcot has the latest from turkey-syria, the border. >> that besieged syrian town is warning tonight of a large scale massacre if the isis terrorists make it inside that town. that is looking more and more likely, take a look at what we saw near the front line earlier today. this is the closest we have seen and heard to a sustained battle here in the town of kobani, just across the border from where we
are in syria. smoke coming up from the tower hill there, and to the left, this is the eastern side of the city, and we have seen a lot of firing there, isis tanks, isis mortars shooting in and small arms fire coming from the kurdish section of the city. all across the city, we're seeing impacts, there's a lot more tension in the air. >> shells are landing hard and fast, a few landed near us inside turkey. turkish authorities evacuated three villages near the boarder. we spotted very clearly isis weapons fired repeatedly from one location just a few miles from the town. a few ill equipped fighters and their supporters. air strikes inside syria in the past 24 hours, but none of those were near kobani. the lack of more strikes has people upset here despite the
fact that turkey who has a big threat of military right on that border so far has not gone in. there have been differences in the past between turkey and the ethnic kurds. again the fall of kobani of the isis terrorists could have big, strategic and symbolic importance, our military expert on the ground here says that could be happening in the next 48 hours, once again to quote that kobani official, where is the world? a special tribute today in our nation's capital for wounded warriors. president obama opening the disabled veterans. speaking at the unveiling, the president says this memorial serves as a reminder of the obligations we truly face as a nation. >> from this day forward, americans will come to this place and ponder the immense sacrifice made on their behalf. the heavy burden borne by a few
so that we might live in freedom and peace. of course our reflection is not enough. our expressions of gratitude are not enough. >> planning for the memorial actually began about 20 years ago, a veteran's charity raised more than 80 million dplrz $80 pore its construction. at this our, we can confirm one of those men did not survive. hope is quickly fading that the others can be found alive. and olympic champion swimmer michael phelps, remember him. well, he's preparing to face another challenge, with the 18-time gold medal winner is now doing after getting hit with a second dui charge. link as your technology partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure, and dedicated support, free you to focus on what matters.
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police officer daniel faulkner was murdered by the black panthers, he originally was sentenced to death but was resentenced to life in 2012. he's being victimized by a racist justice system. and just a short time ago, maureen faulkner, the wife of the murdered police officer issued this statement. here's part of it. shame on godard college and all associated with that wbr id "wbr9300" school for choosing to honor an arrogant remorseless killer as their commencement speaker, as this is something i am certain they will be proud of for the rest of their lives, end quote. join sean hannity tomorrow night 10:00 p.m. eastern, don't miss it. well, he's known as the winningist athlete in olympic history. but now swimming sensation michael phelps is preparing to /b
face what could be the greatest challenge yet. he's 29 years old, phelps announced that he's entering rehab after the second conviction on dui charges. will carr picks up the story from our west coast newsroom. will? reporter: good evening, harris, it looks like nell ps could be out for at least a month and a half, a spokesperson tells us that he is going to enter into an inpatient program that will wbr-id "wbr9900" last for six weeks on the he'els of his dui arrest ths past tuesday. phelps who's 29 tack to fwiter and facebook today releasing a statement in part that says i'm going to take some time away to attend a program that will provide the help i need to understand myself. swimming is a major part of my life, but right now i need to focus my attention on me as an individual, learn from this
experience and make better experiences in the future. we have reached out to spefrl sponsors a and have not received a response from any. >> it has been almost a decade since the first time he had trouble like this? >> that's right, he's definitely been in the negative spotlight several times throughout the course of his career. think back to 2009, that's when he got in trouble for having a picture of him smoking marijuana. harris, the incident you're talking about took place back in 2004, phelps was charged with his first dui. we found his reaction after that arrest, he was very emotional and apologetic. >> it was so hard because i knew i had let them down, and that's something that will never happen again. >> will never happen again, he said. we found out that with that first dui he had back in 2004,
he served 18 months probation and the conviction was waived so with this recent arrest, he will actually be treated as a first-time dui offender, harris. >> will carr, thank you very much. the sun rising right now over hong kong, i think we have a live picture of this. yep, there it is. but what will the new day bring as communist officials make an ultimatum to the pro democracy protesters, get off the streets or else. and a real question about america's political future too, are we too divided as a nation? you know they say, divided we fall. the constant squabbling and nail your to come to -- our political insiders are getting miked up to join me at home base. stay close.
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built for business. it is now officially deadline day in hong kong, that's because the sun's already come up on monday morning there. this is a live look at the streets where protesters are facing an ultimatum right now from hong kong and chinese official who is want demonstrators off the streets and everything back to normal today. there's no sign that the protesters will comply. for days they have surrounded government and key sites around the city, and they want fair and balanced elections. we'll keep you updated on that situation. a story that is big south of the border tonight, families there are bracing for the worst after a group of college students vanished. now authorities are warning they are come across something that may explain what happened to them all. it's our top story as we go
around the world in 80 seconds. mexico, six burial pits uncovered about 100 miles south of mexico city, inside charred remains from an unknown number of victims. they could be the bodies we're told of 43 student protesters who vanished after violent clashes with police more than a week ago. six other students died during that same protest. several police officers now arrested for what mexican authorities are calling excessive use of force. china, a 2-year-old girl safe and sound after falling 60 feet to the bottom of a farming well. crews pumped oxygen down to the toddler while one firefighter managed to squeeze down a hang necessary and pull her up to safety. in libya, a british man stepped free after being taken hostage by islamer militants.
david bollock was -- local libyan leaders reportedly paid a ransom to secure his release. the philippines, monday's going to the dogs, snakes and spiders. people bringing their pets to mass for an annual blessing of the animals, it's all who honor the catholic patron saint of animals. that's fox's trip around the world in 80 seconds. monday the u.s. supreme court is back in session with some high profile cases the justice also hear this term, same-sex marriage and whether it's constitutional. and laws aimed at limiting abortion and lingering legal challenges to obama care. tuesday president obama travels to new york city and connecticut for some democratic
party events. wednesday the president henderson to the pentagon for hearings -- his road back on thursday, there time to headline at several more political gatherings on the west coast. turkey is now moving civilians out of harm's way, as isis closes in on a key boarder town known as the center of syrian kurdistan. a look at the battle for kobani, the political insider also join me too, and we want to hear from you, join in on the conversation. post your comments on my facebook page. like us there. or you can tweet @harris faulkner fn insiders. stay close. ou totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends. three jobs.
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i'm harris faulkner. this is the fox report. it's the bottom of the hour and here's what's happening, turkey is evacuating villages close to the syrian border as the fight against what is now being called an army of terrorists, of course armed with much of our equipment that we left behind in iraq is now trying to capture the syrians to the kobani. but they are desperate for help. we know our military has hit targets inside syria from the air, no idea if that's helping the kurdish fighters, isis seems
to be undeterred, leaving some in washington to doubt whether air strikes will ever be enough. >> it's isis is certainly overmatched from above, but will air strikes be enough to destroy the militant group? so far this weekend, american aircraft have destroyed isis tanks, vehicles, mortar positions and humvees with three strikes in syria, bringing the total there to 92 since december 23 and six more strikes in iraq bringing the total in that country to 258 since august 8. but republican senator lindsay graham told cnn today, he does not think isis will really start hurting until ground troops are deployed as another republican is warning the white house not to abandon this campaign until the job is done. >> he has made clear this is going to take a sustained effort and he needs to be prepared to have the resolve to stay engaged in that sustained effort.
otherwise we're going to have a safe haven again where air strikes are going to be launched against them. >> he doesn't believe the administration or the president is to blame for the rapid rise in isis, instead he points to domestic politics insider rag. >> the issue that caught the intelligence community by surprise ask lack of capacity of the iraqi military forces and particularly the political disenfranchisement of the sunni community by maliki. >> this afternoon president obama spoke broadly about american troops and said he believes they should only be sent into harm's way when it's absolutely necessary. >> peter, thank you. dysfunction in washington appears to be manifesting itself in voter isn'tment. imagine that, ahead of crucial midterm elections, more americans are losing confidence in president obama and congress. the fox news political insiders are here and you can join in our conversation on twitter and
facebook, they're going to put owl that information on the bottom of the screen. former republican congressman for report, pat and doug, former pollster for president clinton and fox news contributor as well. as peter doosy was doing his report, pat said that's exactly why people are losing confidence in. >> we're trying to stop isis, we don't have enough air strikes, the american people are already deciding we may need to have ground troops and support it. maybe they'll bring the administration along. we have chaos going on in the rest of the world. we have ebola, we have the secret service who can't protect the president. we have a veteran's administration that abuses veterans and that's just one thing, we have an irs that targets people, and by the way,
gives billions of dollars to people who file fraud lent claims and give up billions of dollars to closed investigations. >> i want to push back a little bit, or just drill down on what you just said. are you saying the president and congress are responsible for all of that? what do you mean? >> every one of the things that pat listed, the va, the irs, ebola coming into this country, the secret service as he said not being able to protect the president, first of all these are things you never would have thought a few years ago were possible in america. if i had said on this show, doug, three or four years ago, oh, ebola is going to be breaking out in various cities in the country and some guy's going to be walking into the east room of the white house un -- >> wouldn't have believed it for a second. >> it's like the salami getting sliced a little bit by little bit and all of a sudden you wake up and it's gone. >> all right, so, but all of this, and i have heard you all
three say this, this is important the timing of it. because now we're less than 30 days away from the midterm electi elections. this is a gallup poll, registered voters using midterm election as a vote to send a message to the president. how will this play, doug? and who does this hurt the most? >> it certainly hurts the president. we're at record levels of blame, record levels -- >> do you think he cares? he's got two more years. >> i think he cares, harris, about the politics. you heard jack reid, a veteran democratic senator say it's all the iraqis' fault. you heard the president say that it's the intelligence community's fault. what we're not getting is any sense of unity of the american people around a common purpose to stop perpetrators of evil, hatred and mass murder which is isis. >> and we know divided we fall, pat? >> we have a woman whose head was cut off by someone who became intoxicated with
radical -- >> in oklahoma. >> in oklahoma. and people are wondering -- >> beheading in oklahoma. >> another workplace violence. so we have panetta, the former secretary of defense, a democrat, well respected saying, i told the president we couldn't do this, we should have kept troops in iraq, everyone knows we should have done this and -- >> and the former secretary of defense bob gates saying basically the same thing. >> so, harris, here's the way -- you have to see that the public believes as we do that america is in decline. america is in decline and what is lacking with a month to go before the election is one candidate or even one party or one campaign who says we are here to restore america, we are not going to let this country go down the drain, here's what we're going to do positively. >> why do republicans don't do this, i don't know. here's three things we're going
to do if you elect us to get the country back on track. i don't hear a word about it. >> what you're saying you haven't heard one, let alone three. david wol veryton writes neither side wants to be blamed for any mistakes. >> neither side is willing to talk positively about our values, what makes us great and what we need to do as a nation to move forward. everyone's playing politics, no one's leading and the american people, harris, are just plain angry. >> look, it's important to understand, you just look at this, we have troops in the field, people flying, risking their lives, they will not even come back from this election campaign of negativity to vote on authorization, we're going to put that off until the lame duck or beyond, the same thing with the president on amnesty, where
he has been setting up immigration, amnesty for 5 million or 6 million or is 1 million. >> this is nothing but contempt for the voters. all the these parties care about is a desperation to get power. and that's why the american people seem so disinterested in this election. >> fox news poll shows, in case democrats or republicans think this is a party thing, they're wearing this together. look at the dissatisfaction here. disapproval, and again, voters are asked, likely voters were asked, do you approve or disapprove of the job of congress. now overall, it's about 13% approval, which is really sad. so politics is local-- >> what we're seeing is 60% across the board are saying they business approve of both parties, but there's an interesting electoral point here, underscoring what john and pat have said. the republicans have a higher dissatisfaction and lower
satisfaction than the democrats and the democrats are discredited. so the republicans if they win, it is no mandate, it's just a rejection of obama and the democrats. >> that's why i think the republicans probably will win the senate because everybody's angry, republicans are more angry. and their passion differential favors them, more of them will come out to vote in this off year election, i think than -- and they'll barely win the senate. >> pat, i want to talk to you about really something that you and i have talked about before and that's that government really has a key role to protect us. i mean everything else is nice, but the key job is to keep us safe. the associated press did a poll, we won't pop anything on the screening anymore. but just to let you know, 37%, more than a third of americans say they fear more than ever that we are going to get hit. and i am looking on twitter, ed
heins writes on my twitter page, america won't mobilize until isis actually hits this country. >> i think the american people are more anxious than i can remember in a long time, whether it's isis, ebola, just the sense that things aren't working, we have a president that has the utmost confidence in each of these institutions. and everything that's failing and no one, as doug so eloquently stated has a vision. no one's say we should rally the country, the president's clearly trying to get through the election, in my opinion. >> doing anything he k. >> so he can at that point, i'll bet you money right now that we're going to see this isis campaign back off. because if he were serious, you would know -- everyone knows we can't do this this way, americans are waiting to get hit because everyone tells them they're in control. >> and isis haven't hidening it -- >> if they make their way into
turkey, where all these refugees, 150,000 of them have held camp. if they make their way in, we're talking about, at least this is what generals and military analysts are saying, oh, my goodness, do the math, this would be a massacre of -- >> well the turkish army -- >> they have already 30,000 to 40,000 christians in iraq. so i don't want to engage in fearmongering, but what you're say is exactly right. >> then you hear the argument, well, does america really have the pallet, the taste for ground troops at this point? >> not right now, but we had a poll yesterday from "the wall street journal", which i thought was much closer about we would need ground troops. fox poll has now come out with a majority of people saying we should put people on the ground and a huge number, even more think the air campaign by itself will fail. even a child understands you can't stop an army alone with air strikes alone.
>> it is the job of the president to follow polls or to lead the country and change the polls by explaining to the people this great communicator, that he has proven to be, go on television and sell the public on what we're talking about, that if we don't do this, if we don't do that, here's what's going to happen, and make the case. he seems reluctant to do it. >> freedom gal writes on twitter, and i want to get to as many of these as possible because we have got so much action right now on social media. don't want top wait until the election to get congress back on track, i want congress and the president to make sure americans are safe. always with the economy, people vote with their pocket books, this issue of safety is huge right u now during the midterm. >> it's a huge issue facing us, what do we do to maintain our safety and security. the president is not talking about it, the president is not doing as john as said which is to provide leadership. the american public will rally
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john, pat and doug. first of all, i called him george, you called him gary, he is gregor orman. >> he has not promised to side. he says he doesn't know what, republican or democrat he will side with. >> either harry reid or mitch mcconnell. >> he had an ad up this week which you have not heard on our network or anyone in washington, the conventional politicians believes that someone running for office must be desperate to be part of this inside game of trading. it doesn't add up and pat robertson's inside people say that these two people, harry reid and mitch mcconnell. what comes up a picture of mitch mcconnell and john boehner and this is a man, we all have been talking about the research i have done, how much the american people want an alternative. now in a state, a man who
stted 7% in june, has not spent that much, and now further ahead than anyone in any of these other senate races that are competitive. why? because he is saying there's a different politics. he's saying they need to work together, the way both parties operate. and he has promised most of all, as doug said, he's not going to vote for either harry reid or mcconnell. he's going to votes for new leadership. and i don't know if he's finally figured it all out. >> he's running now as an independent, he was a republican originally, left the party, joined the democrats, left the party. >> so he's been a member of both parties. >> he was for obama in '08 and in 12, he voted against him for mitt romney. but he mirrors the american public, because the biggest group of voters in america are
independents. >> the republicans are saying, he is somehow a trojan horse for harry reid. couldn't be further from the truth. this is the kind of desperation politics. the fact is he's the one candidate in america running for the senate and not running a negative campaign. >> i do want to get our own voters in if you will, the people who are voting with their fingers tonight on social media. roger g. mills, i'm choosing this because it sums up the last eight or nine. orman is a democrat and she's closing, get a clue. >> that is a charge, that there is a kenard, it's being thrown out there as a way to try to frighten people to safe a 34-year veteran -- 34-years in the senate who is no one basically and he is part -- look the election here is going to be simple. do you want change or do you want the same corruption going on in washington. if that's the issue, they lose.
the republicans are december proper desperate, they're accusing all kinds of things. >> you mentioned money, the fact that he has. put much money into the race. >> about a million dollars. >> but democrats are having to spend money they hadn't anticipated, in the state of kansas, in the state of colorado, talk to me, doug. >> what's happening is, with to the polls we have just seen, increasing people are blaming president obama with the exception of a state like north carolina and michigan. every other competitive race is drifting in the direction of the republican party. and harris, the democrats are saying, it's 50/50 in the senate. probably now 60% chance that the republican also take the senate or that greg orman, an gus king and a couple of others will hold the balance of power. >> on orman, he could be unbelievably central to changing the u.s. senate.
if it ends up 50/49 and he's the other one, and he gets to decide which side he caucuses with to make the majority, the power he has, one elect, one senator elect could change the entire senate by this. >> you know what i'm reading on facebook, and i'm always the person who wooants to ask the obvious question in the room. republican and democrat and then independent. i mean, look, i don't know how much you guys personally know of this person. but i have to ask, it sounds like a pretty good deal. you figure out how to run to get everybody to vote for you. >> it's just the opposite, he was a republican, nthen he was n independent and now he's a democrat. >> final thoughts? >> we don't know where he'llnd up, but as john and pat said, he mirrors the american people,
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what's going on in iowa heir, hillary clinton and mitt romney, reportedly headed to iowa to stump for candidates facing some tough midterm elections, the last round of the political insiders on this edition of fox report, anyway. pat, i'm going to start with you. so hillary hasn't declared whether she'll run for president. and mitt romney has said he wouldn't run, but we're seeing them glen in iowa. any meetings? >> they're both running for president. romney leaked all the background on his people about how he's
going to run, he really thinks that he's ronald reagan, i keep is running, this is important to her, the campaign and so is her husband, because guess who cannot campaign for democrat, who is at fund-raisers all week instead of at his office doing the his job, the president. meanwhile no one is saying anything, i just want to conclude my point, that's why when people like greg orman is saying, we might have an election that sets a different tone for 2016. >> you know that clinton -- >> yes, i do. >> i guess it would been a shocker if she declared, but would it be a surprise if mitt romney also ran? >> i predicted that he would be the nominee, and i think pat is exactly right.
i think this is a precursor in a match between hillary and mitt romney. >> how does that shape up in your eyes? >> i think it will be a really close race. much of what he said has been vingd indicated. hillary is a great campaigner and she's only preceded by the skills of her husband. >> i will predict that neither or at least one of them will make the nomination. >> they're the epitome, hillary and romney, they are the epitome of the establishment of each party. what have we spent the last half hour talking about? the public is anti-establishment. >> we have talked about a country where people are scared, where they're worried, where thigh think it's in decline, where their children don't have a future, you just want to have the same recycled politicians. mr. smith could be in the
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into a runway while trying to land at a l.a. -- a louisiana airport. have a good one. bye. good morning. today is thursday, october 9. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. this morning airport workers are walking off the job after fears of catching ebola, this after another possible case surfaces in the south. a sherrifs deputy is sick and he never went overseas. >> a scandal surfaces at the white house overnight apparently kept secret for two years. it all goes back to this. >> was the president aware there were allegations like this? >> i don't think any of us were aware of it until we read the newspaper source. >> probably not true.
details on the story that everybody in washington is going to be talking about today when the sun comes up over 1600 pennsylvania. >> they love the over this. incredible pictures taken moments after a u.s. air force a-15 falls from the sky. the plane erupts in flames but the pilot walks away. you're looking at it. mornings are better with friends. >> this is dwayne johnson and you're watching "fox & friends." >> the question is, is dwayne johnson watching "fox & friends" right now? we should give him a phone number. >> i like your idea. we know you're watching. we're thankful you are. we'll get right to a neart for you. the united states steps up screening in the face of ebola. workers at la guardia walked off the job. they say they don't have the right training or materials to deal with sick
travelers. >> joining us with brand-new details, doug lieu czar -- luzader is live outside washington. >> good morning guys. this is one of the airports targeted for additional screening. workers in la guardia have walked off the job on strike now because they're concerned about what they're going through cleaning some of these aircraft, that they may not have the kind of protective gear they need to do that. that is one other angle to this. sometimes we don't think about the fact that these airplanes have to be cleaned. as far as additional screening is concerned, dulles in virginia one of five airports targeted for enhanced screening. jfk and newark and atlanta
and chicago. those are the five airports they are concentrating on. they are looking for passengers arriving from sierra leone, guinea and liberia. passengers will have their temperatures taken and be asked specific questions about their health but the c.d.c. admits this is one additional layer of protection. right now the bottom line is protection for people coming into this country and for americans related to travel. we will continuously look at ways that we can increase the safety of americans, and we do that at many different levels. >> nothing foolproof here. and remember, you look at the guy in dallas who recently died from ebola. thomas eric duncan, this kind of screening process would probably not have protected him because he was not showing symptoms of
ebola when he arrived here in the united states. >> he also lied on that declaration form when he got on the plane. >> he went to the hospital, said i'm sick, they said you're fine, go home. he wasn't. he's dead. >> it wasn't supposed to get here, no one was supposed to die from it. we're in a situation where this is absolutely tragic. >> and you know what? we don't have any of that serum either. they're making more, so we hope they hurry. as washington wakes up this is a full blown scale in a potential coverup involving the white house. it also involves a potentially obstruction of justice charge for many and it appears that the barack obama administration did indeed corrupt the inspector general process. they're supposed to be independent. not so. what does it have to do
with? remember in 2012 a couple of months before the election, there were couple of americans in chom i can't. there was a -- in colombia. there was a scandal on the first day, seemed like secret service guys brought hookers to the hotel. in the wake of that, secret service people, their lives were ruined. all along the white house denied nobody from the white house was involved; absolutely not. in fact, in april of 2012, jay carney came out to the podium and said this. >> was the president aware that there were allegations like this before the news report this morning? >> i don't think so. i doubt it. i don't know that any of us were aware of it until we read the newspaper reports. >> that is not true. >> new details from government documents in fact show that there are many actual interviews with senior white house aides and they were given the information at the time
suggesting that a prostitute was an overnight guest in the room of a presidential advanced team member. this is what it said, quote september of 2012, we did find a hotel registry that suggests two nonunited states service personnel might have had contact passengers. this was no investigation into these findings because they are not d.h.s. personnel. twice they interviewed and twice they said no misconduct was found as it related to this white house official. >> this guy, jonathan dock, is the one people are looking at now. he was 25 years old at the time. a yale law school guy. i didn't know a guy who is a volunteer would get a position like this, to be part of an advanced team that would coordinate drivers for the white house, something so important. you'd think maybe he would help the guy hired to be the guy. >> this could have hurt the actual big guy in charge. >> what jonathan dock did is evidently there are reports that he had a
prostitute in his room and that brings us to the question of when they did the investigation, the inspector general, this guy, i believe charles edwards, did he come to the conclusion that this happened? and was he told by the white house not to include that in the report? >> interesting, the white house counsel, she said when they conducted thattent view with the advanced team member, that 25-year-old jonathan dock, said he did nothing wrong. >> she is now being considered to be the replacement for eric holder. as soon as it hit the papers that there was a secret service scandal, keep in mind the white house made it clear nobody here involved even though brian said this guy who is a law school student who still works for the administration and is the son of a big democratic donor and somebody who supported barack obama to get elected, on that first weekend the white house counsel called all the people in. they worked through the
weekend. this guy, did he have anything involved in they go no. they go okay, he's not involved. next thing you know the inspector general gets involved, homeland security and they start to look and then it became clear that there was a lot of evidence that this guy at the white house was involved. and yet this comes out and this is from "the washington post," and this is from david nyland who was involved in the inspector general process at homeland security. he said we were directed at the time, before the election, to delay the report of the investigation until after the 2012 election. so there, ladies and gentlemen, it does appear that the inspector general process, which they're supposed to be independent, it was corrupted by the white house. look, we don't want this coming out before the election, so whatever you do, keep it quiet. there was this struggle behind the scenes and they did their best to do t. now that everything has blown up at the secret service, now we know that apparently
the white house pressured this investigation, nothing's got to come out before the election. >> according to this because it would tarnish the image for the president. it would look bad for the white house. didn't have to do much digging. there are photos of the prostitute. they could tie that to the room that they entered in the hotel or where they were. this wasn't a deep investigation but it has many layers of cover. >> let's say this proves to be true,, you see the ramifications for the election. but if a 25-year-old volunteer screws up and gets a prostitute, barack obama doesn't lose the reelection because of that. to think they're going to have to be that buttoned up and that paranoid if this proves to be true -- >> they've got the information. "the washington post" went down there and did an
investigation in cartagena, prostitution is legal this and it is on this guy's record. his attorney says he was not involved. but what it shows is that the coverup is always worse than the crime. barack obama probably would have been reelected any way, but it's the steps they went to look like everything is fine here. remember this was a little ahead of benghazi when we were told that, you know, al qaeda is on the run, none of that stuff is true. looks like big trouble for the white house. stand by for knouse on -- stand by for news on that throughout the day. >> what happened to ainsley after she did her show? >> i'm here filling in for heather this morning. we miss her but i'm glad to be here. other headlines this morning, breaking news right now, violent protests erupght in st. louis -- erupting in st. louis, missouri, after a police shot a teenager dead.
this all started when an officer saw three men in the street. the cop claims that one of the men was grabbing his waistband indicating that he was carrying a gun. the cop chased him and that's when that teenager turned around and fired at the officer. the cop fired back and killed him. this all happening the same day the protesters planned to take to the streets in nearby ferguson so mark two months since the death of michael brown. caught on camera, the stunning moment a u.s. air force plane crashes and bursts into flames. this happening during a combat training in england. the f-15 slammed into that field near an elementary school. the pilot did manage to eject safely. it's not clear what caused that crash. the surprising star of the senate debate in kansas, harry reid. but for all the wrong reasons. in one corner republican
senator pat roberts. in the other corner independent candidate greg orman, both traded blows over reid. take a listen. >> a vote for greg orman is a vote to hand over the future of kansas and the country to harry reid and barack obama. >> i believe obama and reid are part of the problem. >> the latest fox news poll has roberts with a five point lead getting 44% of the vote. talk about the ride of a lifetime. >> pope francis inviting those two children from the crowd outside of the vatican for a spin on the pope mobile. and look at their faces. they can handily contain their excitement. those boys are from italy and they were seen pumping their fists as they were driving around st. peter's square. how special. i remember the pope came to
my hometown and one of my friends who is catholic was on stage with him. pretty special. >> i know he's the pope but if you're the parent you can't just hand over your two five-year olds. >> yes, you can. >> i'd say listen, i need to see some i.d. >> by the way, we forgot -- we left out one juicy little tidbit regarding the guy accused of hiring the hooker. >> the 25-year-old at the time. >> he now works -- he didn't get fired after the hooker scandal. he now works for the state department at the global women's issues department. he hired a woman hooker and now he's -- apparently he's an expert at this. global women's issues at the state department, that's where he's working. coming up a new antiterror handbook refers to jihad as a noble thing. and did we mention it's all government approved. >> she's on track to make
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>> president obama piled on more taxes, more regulations, more debt for future generations and higher health care costs hurting our mainstream economy. i decided to run for office because my generation can't just complain about these problems. we have to help solve them as well. >> who exactly is this fresh face in the g.o.p.? she is with me now in the studio. good morning to you. >> thank you so much. >> this is a big week. i want to point directly to the fact that president obama is saying to launch a fresh millenial image on friday heading across the country talking to young individuals like yourself but you're actually speaking their language. why is your voice resonating so much with voters? a poll has you up by 13% against your opponent. >> if you look at president obama's record in this country, if you look at
high employment rates particularly for young women, we're in double digits. if you look at health care costs they're rising faster under the obamacare act. women in particular are having to absorb these price hikes whether they're taking care of their elderly parents or single mothers taking care of their children. they make 80% of health dent obama may be this launching the millenial initiative but he's letting us down in terms of the debt he racked on for future generations. ultimately my generation is going to inherit this mess. one of the reasons i'm running is stepping up to the plate and offering new solutions. >> i know you're a 2006 harvard grad. harvard students say america is the greatest threat in the world, greater than even isis. take a listen here. >> in many ways i have to think it is america because america is making decisions that are much more likely to affect the world. >> american imperialism and our protection of oil interests in the middle east are destabilizing.
>> we're to blame for a lot of problems we're creating now. i don't think anyone would argue we didn't create the problem of isis ourselves. >> in your mind, the problem? >> the challenges of being a new generation republican on our college campuses today, i think it is clear that isis is the most well funded terrorist group in recent history especially and the united states plays an important role in the world. and when i think about that clip you just plays, elisabeth, i think about the troops. my district is home to fort drum, the most deployed unit in the u.s. army. i believe that is a slap in the face to our troops who are fighting to defend our principles abroad and also standing up for women and standing up for children. >> elise stefanik, you speak to a broad generation out there. thank you for joining us. did the e.p.a. inform the i.r.s.? thousands of text messages
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welcome back. we've got an update for you. the f.b.i. is getting very close to i.d.'ing this english-speaking terrorist we showed you yesterday. >> we're here in the 17th division military base just outside the city of raqqa. >> one day after asking for your help for information on this man the f.b.i. received hundreds of tips on their tip line. this controversial handbook that claims jihad is noble is banned in canada, but the obama administration just endorsed it. yes, the state department
tweeted a link on its twitter page promoting the manual. in chapter 1 of the "united against terrorism" the authors promote sharia law. can't make it up. brian, over to you. >> five minutes before the bottom of the hour. american company revolutionizing the way we make clothing and now the u.s. navy is testing its new process. proposal l.l.c. says let's get rid of the needle and thread and weld our fabrics together. if this works it could bring more jobs back here to the united states making u.s. uniforms. joining us to talk about this mission and what she accomplished, fabric welding is what the method is called and what it means for our military, claire, congratulations on doing this. tell me how welding and clothing mix. >> we're looking at taking needle and thread out which tends to be bulky and heavy and looking at ways of using different welds to
bond the fabrics together instead. >> let's do the neelgd -- needle and thread. >> this is a seam in this navy garment. it is bulky and stiff. >> that's typical. now the mission to any company, let's make this lighter and let's do it quicker. so this is what you came up with? >> yes. we did this in a research project for the navy and we've come up with a seam that is much more flexible and much lighter weight. thinner and right now we're still researching how it will hold up in the field but it's showing really good promise. >> this is interesting that you might have that welding mask and welding clothes together. >> you don't need a welding mask. but it would be welded; correct? >> exactly. >> we have a little bit of that video. let's have an example of what this piece of clothing would be like without seams essentially. >> we've still got seams because you've got to shape
the garment around the body. for example, this zipper, there is no stitching in this area at all. this has been bonded and welded in. this tab has been created without stitching. and we've got another pocket right in here. it's been assembled without stitching as well. >> how long would it take to do something like this? on the surface it seems welding might take longer than a needle and thread through a machine. >> this is a research and development project. right now i would say it's similar time stitching. this project lends itself to automation and semi automation. as we can develop it further we think it will lead to faster speeds in assembly. >> what the military has asked you to do is make it lighter; correct? >> they have asked us to look at how this can make the clothing better. we've found we can significantly make clothing lighter. >> what's the response? >> positive. they are looking in funding further research so we're hoping that will progress
next year. >> the theory is you get the contract and we hope you do, can we keep those jobs here? make the clothing here? >> yes. by law all of our department of defense clothing have to be made in the united states. what this has the potential to do is add other jobs for other companies that want to make things that aren't just department of defense clothing. we'll keep jobs here and we could add jobs. >> if the men and women are fighting with lighter equipment that's better sealed, keeps them safer. that's better for everybody. congratulations on the innovation. hopefully you'll get the okay. let us know. coming up next, one vet told to make doctor's appointments every two weeks but it turns out no appointments are available for months. has anything changed at the v.a.? a conservative film maker who says he was targeted by the feds for criticizing the president now going in front of the camera. we'll get his story. happy birthday to scottie mccreary.
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ainsley was born into money; right? >> i've never seen that much money in my life. thank you. let me tell you about the headlines. it looks like the government did not learn its lesson from lois lerner's misfortunes. a top official in the environmental protection agency claims the agency deleted thousands of text messages and they can't be recovered. this news in response to a request for messages by a conservative think tank t. claims they're using texts instead of e-mails to carry on off-the-record conversations. kevin trainer put his life on the hien for our country for 13 years serving as a combat rescue swimmer in the navy. now the injured hero is being forced to wait months just to get an appointment for an m.r.i. at the v.a. hospital. >> six months and waiting for shoulder repair, that's ridiculous. >> here's the worst part. trainer says he's also supposed to receive
counseling for ptsd every two weeks but the v.a. hospital in north carolina only offering it every four months. conservative anymore maker dinesh d'souza is turning his probation sentence for illegal campaign contributions into a tv career. he has to complete eight months of community service and he'll record the whole thing as a reality show. he plans to teach english to immigrants. he was spared from jail time for giving illegal straw donations to college friends and new york senate candidate wendy long. call in the camel google going to the extreme to map an arabian desert. the tech giant strapping its street cameras on to a camel. a guy will lead that animal on a 62-mile journey taking 360-did he dpree views of the desert in the u.a.e. and google is saying it used the country's ancient mode of transportation for
authenticity. and those are your headlines. >> that is so cool. >> something we can google later. >> the google car with that thing on the top drove by me out in new jersey a couple of weeks ago. i waved. >> have you ever looked up your house on-line? >> of course. >> do you know there's snow on it. >> some people have done it and found a car in the driveway that maybe shouldn't be there. >> interesting. i never thought about that. >> meanwhile -- >> this hasn't happened before. >> hey maria. >> good morning. good to see you. let's switch gears to the weather because we have incredible video out of massachusetts. there was some damage caused by something called a micro birth. we have strong storms rolling through parts of the northeast yesterday. what that is is very strong straight line winds coming from a thunder storm. that downdraft hits the
ground and causes sometimes some of this damage. this video was shot by a drone, incredible aerial. that is in massachusetts, winds estimated to be over a hundred miles per hour from that storm. today we are expecting more storms. some of the areas included are arizona and parts of new mexico. you can already see rain moving through that region. a lot of tropical moisture from the eastern pacific ocean. far off towards the east across parts of kansas and into missouri we have a cold front moving through and that system is going to produce several inches of rain. we have the concern for flash flooding. there are watches already in effect out this. that rain will continue today into tomorrow. high pressure in that front will be in the 80's and 90's. friday and into saturday cooler air will continue to move south and parts of the texas pan handle are going to be seeing highs in the 60's by saturday. a big cooldown coming up for a big chunk of the
country for the weekend. >> perfect football weather. maria, thank you. >> it is the dracula story you have not heard. >> sometimes the world no longer needs a hero. sometimes what it needs is a monster. >> right. my words exactly. the action-packed adventure dracula untold hits theaters tomorrow. let's look into the fox light with the vice president of marketing and the host of fox light, michael tammero. >> just what we need now, monsters. >> is it fantastic? >> it is a dracula movie so it is what it is. >> got a cape? >> no cape, a lot of biting. what universal is trying to do here, they're home to some of the great characters of all time. frank stein, the mummy and of course dracula. they are looking to create a shared cinematic monster
universe, the way marvel has done with the super heroes. they are starting with dracula. you meet prince lad, the prince of transylvania defending his homeland against the turks. he makes kind of a deal with the devil and the rest is history as they say. we sat down with two big stars and asked them about the training. there is a lot of physical scenes in this. >> he really put so much -- brought so much integrity to our love story, to the emotional side of the film even though he had to do so much work physically for it as well. there were moments we were onset where he was doing push-ups and crunches and i was watching him and saying good work. good work. do a few more, you know. >> i had to train for about two months before we started shooting this film. i was in new zealand.
i took the trainer with me there. we were packing on pounds and the muscle out there. it's all real; okay? >> he's starring in the final hobbit. >> why don't they have one of the batman suits for him to make you look like you're fit. he really owns the part. >> we have cable at our house and we have the starz channel. starz is on quite a roll. they have outlander, a huge success. last week they premiered a new show, a basketball phenom who survives growing up in the hood. it is signed by an nba atlanta franchise. he feels guilty about how he navigates fame and fortune. >> lebron james. >> lebron james is producing it. it has a lot of heavyweights behind it. we sat down with two of its
stars. the show is ripped right from the headlines. we discuss about what they thought about the nfl. >> the nfl taking too much heat? i don't think so, no. you reap what you sow. >> they skirted around these issues for years. >> too much under the carpet, it's going to get lumpy. right now it is a little lumpy. >> it is a lot lumpy. >> at the misfortune of others. at the same time it is kind of unbelievable, it is amazing to see us having filmed something months ago but it is so relevant to what is happening right now. >> you can catch survivors remorse saturday on starz. catch my celebrity interviews on inthefoxlight.com. follow me on twitter at
foxlightmichael. >> thank you. this coming up. a pilot doing something you never heard of before. he kicked every single passenger off the plane. wait until you hear why. >> more on the secret service bombshell. white house aides apparently knew about the prostitution scandal but kept it quiet until after the 2012 election. they forced others to do that as well. the judge says this is big trouble. trouble. ♪ are we still on for tomorrow? tomorrow. tomorrow is full of promise. we can come back tomorrrow. and we promise to keep it that way. csx. how tomorrow moves. what a day. can't wait til tomorrow. ccaaaaaaaaaaaa! [popping & fizzing sounds]
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we have headlines for you now. here is a travel tip. next time you're boarding a plane don't ask the pilot if he's drunk. a passenger on jetblue made a joke about the pilot being drunk and that forced security to perform a
mandatory test on him. so the pilot kicked everyone off the plane. the fan who used a laser pointer on the buffalo bills quarterback and holder during sunday's game in detroit busted, banned from lions games forever. more to come on that, i'm sure. >> a bombshell. new report alleges the white house knew of one of its members involved in the 2012 secret service prostitution scandal and that the lead investigator claims he was told to delay his report until after the election. >> what does that mean if these allegations are true and could anybody go to jail for this? let's talk to the judge. judge, what do you think? >> good morning, guys. the government is allowed to lie to us. we're not allowed to lie to the government. but government officials lying to government officials can be a crime. so if an investigator in the i.g.'s office, the
inspector general's office, was told to lie to investigators from the senate committee looking at this prostitution scandal, like deny that the president knew this -- and he does concoct and express is express -- express that lie, he can be prosecuted. >> when jay carney says nobody from the white house was involved even though according to "washington post" that was this -- >> that's between jay and god the father. he can lie. >> what about delaying the release of this information >> only if an investigator told another investigator we don't have it. if there is a subterfuge, it is a crime. holding back the truth, delaying it is a political issue. that is not crime. if one investigator misled another, one from the investigative branch misled an investigator from the
senate that is a crime. >> you may have answered this subtley, if i'm coming forward and i say they told me to delay my conclusions until after the election and i did, am i guilty of something? >> no. no. unless you lied in order to justify -- >> if i let something out, i'm not in trouble. >> in this specific case where do you see potential for absolute crime? >> you're looking for two things. you're looking for a conspiracy, an agreement amongst people in the white house to keep the truth from the senate investigators. that's number one. >> "the washington post" says that happened. >> "the washington post" says that happened, correct, steve. you're also looking for individuals in this conspiracy with a duty to tell the truth and did not carry out that duty. >> it seems like members from the secret service tried to keep the record straight and along the way they were told keep quiet. what about this --
apparently the first weekend after it happened, white house counsel worked through the weekend, this kathryn ruemmler, and she asked the guy involved in this and he said i didn't do anything wrong, so supposedly she said we talked to the guy. nothing there even though secret service came forward and said we got receipts. we can prove there was a hooker. >> i don't know her but i know her reputation. she has a reputation as a very fine lawyer. she is also reportedly on the short list to replace eric holder. something tells me she is not on that list this morning. >> what about janet napolitano? >> she is not my cousin. >> homeland security secretary, do you think she plays a role in this? >> she prosecutable knew what was going on. -- she probably knew what was going on. >> do you think this was an effort to protect this guy who was 25 because his parents were donors? >> i think it was to keep this from voters before the 2012 election. >> why was this guy doing
advanced work for the white house? >> because his daddy was a big donor. >> next on our rundown, are you an at&t customer? take a closer look at your old phone bills because you may have money coming back to you. >> a mom gets pulled over because her child isn't in a booster seat but instead of giving her a ticket that officer bought her a car seat and they are both going to join us live next. >> this they are. good morning. you're next. ♪ ♪ ♪ the conference call.
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when a michigan public safety officer pulled a woman over for not having her five-year-old daughter in a carseat, the normal protocol would be to write her a ticket. instead he did something extraordinary. he told her, follow me. we're going to wal-mart and there he bought her a booster seat with money from his own pocket. since then the whole thing has gone viral and joining us now to tell us the story is public safety officer ben hall and the mother he helped, lexi. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> so officer, let's pick up the story. you heard on the radio there is some lady driving and she's got a kid in the back in no car seat, right? >> yep. that's correct. >> what did you do? >> the vehicle drove by me just
shortly after dispatch notified me of the call. and i pulled the vehicle over and made contact with lexi here, who was one of the passengers. her friend was driving and her young child was in the back seat. >> that's right. so lexi, the officer right there comes over and says, hey, where is the car seat? what do you tell him? >> basically told him why i didn't have one. i knew the importance of it. i know the importance of her being in a booster seat. i fell on hard times. i can't afford one right now. this is the lesser -- this is the only way i can see my kid. >> officer, normal protocol would be to write her a ticket. but you didn't. you said, let's go to wal-mart. why? >> after hearing her story and understanding what she's going through, i concluded it was just obvious that writing a ticket is not going to solve the problem and that i had to do something
else if i wanted to try to help this family and this child. >> that's an awful nice thing of you to do. and lexi, you went back and you were looking at them and the person who actually made the selection was your five-year-old daughter, right? she said, i like that one right there. >> yes, she did. officer hall looked at one and said, this is kind of boyish and put it back and grabbed another one. and my daughter looked and goes, oh, i like the black one on this one, too, and then hugged the box. >> that's awesome. these pictures that we're looking at are actually from a wal-mart clerk who took the pictures, so inspired by what you did, officer. there you are paying out of your own pocket 50 bucks. you weren't reimbursed. you took it out of your family'? >> i was in a position to help this family out and this child and if i'm able to do something
like that and to change even just a little bit this family's life or lives, i felt that i was in that position to do it and i went ahead and did what i did. >> you did. but you know what? i've read that people are giving you a hard time. you know what, you should have written her a ticket. >> no, not even close. i faced a little bit of criticism, but nothing what lexi is facing. but the overwhelming amount of support from everybody across the country and across the world has just been outstanding. >> absolutely. and lexi, i know you love the fact that he helped you out. you're going through a hard time. your car had been repossessed. but your daughter has a new car seat. what did you tell him when he did that for you? >> i told him i'm grateful. i didn't really know what to say. i was at a loss for words. i had never heard of anything like this before. >> absolutely not. it's terrific. paying it forward. ben hall and lexi joining us from michigan today.
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details is doug luzader at dulles airport. doug? >> reporter: that's right. good morning. this is one of the airports where we will see that additional screening. we spent so much time talking about the potential for infected passengers, we don't think about infected planes as well. that's the concern of these workers at la guardia airport. some of them have gone on strike because they're concerned about cleaning aircraft without the kind of protection they say they need to protect them from viruses like ebola. so this is a whole kind of other angle to this story as the federal government has stepped up its screening of passengers. we talk about the five airports affected, dulles in virginia, but also jfk, newark, atlanta hearts field and chicago o'hare airport. they're look specifically for passengers coming in from free countries in west africa, sierra leone, guinea and liberia. those people will have their temperature taken and have to answer basic questions about their health and depending on
how that screening g they could be quarantined. >> starting at jfk on saturday and at the four other airports that were mentioned in the following week, and that was dulles, newark, chicago and atlanta, these five airports represent 94, 95% of all of the 150 travelers per day who arrive from these three countries. >> reporter: now, what gets complicated, there aren't really direct flights coming in from these countries, so they have to keep track of the potential connections that people have made. the department of homeland security says they are up to this job of figuring out where these people originally came from to see if in fact they're coming up in international flights where they may have originated at one of those three countries. no guarantees. they're just hoping to come in contact with 95% of the passengers from those countries. the cdc will tell you, this is just another layer of security.
it's not a final fix to prevent ebola from coming into the united states. back to you. >> doug luzader, thanks so much. of course, craziness right here in queen, new york. this morning another bombshell. a new report alleges the white house knew that one of its own aides was involved in the 2012 prostitution scandal that led to the downfall of nearly two dozen secret service agents and that investigators were told to hold off on any embarrassing details until after the election. joining us right now is the author of "the first family detail," ron kessler, who broke the story of what happened in colombia and the whole prostitution scandal himself. and now we have this new page. ron, welcome. what's your reaction to what the "washington post" has today? >> i think it's a very clear cut cover-up, even more clear cut than benghazi because we know exactly who made the decision and that is the white house
counsel, and you had this investigation by the secret service. the secret service, despite corner cutting on the projection side by management, is very good at investigating. it's just as good as the f.b.i their investigations lead to people going to jail. they found that yes, this white house aide was involved in hiring a prostitute and yet, the white house counsel ignored that, covered it up. on top of that, i think it sheds light on why president obama did not replace mark sullivan as secret service director even though he presided over the salahi party intrusion, and then over the prostitution scandal, because sullivan knew the white house was involved in the scandal. so why replace him? >> sure. and you mentioned the white house counsel. the weekend after this all hit the fan, she talked to this guy, this 26-year-old then volunteer by the name of jonathan dock, he, according to the "washington post," is the one who hired the
hooker. the white house been saying no, nobody from the white house was involved. he was a volunteer at the time. but then she talked to him and he told her, i didn't do that. so then it's like we didn't have anything here. but then a bunch of investigations started and there she is right now, currently being considered for attorney general, at least she was until today. but then there were these other investigations and the closer they got to the truth -- and they had photocopies of the hook' i.d. tied to his room. it sounds like the department of homeland security, the inspector general started the process. as the investigators got closer to it, they were told by the white house allegedly, back off until after the election. >> yeah. the inspector general of homeland security at the time just covered up everything for the secret service, ignored all their failings. i wouldn't expect anything more out of them. but it's really the white house that's the key here.
they perpetuated a double standard where secret service agents were fired for hiring prostitute, as they should have been. and yet their own aide was involved and they covered that up. >> right. this is a reminder for everyone that 2012 in april, when jay carney completely denied that they knew anything. >> undercuts the credibility of the white house yet again. >> here he is. >> the news report this morning? >> i don't think so. i doubt it. i don't know that any of us were aware of it 'til we read newspaper reports. >> he was waiting for the paper boy to come and then find out what happened. >> yeah, they had no idea. >> another way to make sure that president obama was reelected. >> the interesting thing about this, this guy who got caught in the hooker scandal apparently didn't get fired. now working at the global women's issues department at the state department. ron, according to judge napolitano, who was on with us
ten or 15 minutes ago, he looks at this as a potential for obstruction of justice, obviously. plus there is a possibility that people could go to jail over this. >> i don't see it as being that clear cut. what i do see is that the white house counsel, katherine reummler is not going to become the next attorney general. apparently she was on the list to replace eric holder. she can not do that now. this is ridiculous. very, very scandalous that the secret service would present this investigation. they had cleared another individual. they were very sure that this aide was involved, and yet the white house covered it up. >> sure. the fact that mr. nee kneeland and two others am put on leave for asking questions. we thank you for joining us. >> we have another layer now. ainsley earhart is poised to
give us the rest of the breaking news. >> yes, i am. we have breaking news for you. violent protests erupting in st. louis, missouri, after police shoots a teen-ager dead. look at this one officer trying to -- that one protester trying to pull the officer down. then there is another man caught recording cops with two cameras, while others start kicking their car. this all started when another officer saw three men in the street. the cops claim that one of the men grabbed at his waistband, indicating he was carrying a gun. so the cop chased him and that's when the teen-ager turned around and fired at the officer. the cop fired back and killed the teen-ager. this all happening the same day protesters planned to take to the streets in nearby ferguson to mark two months since michael brown's death. caught on camera, the stunning moment a u.s. air force plane crashes and bursts into flames. here is the picture. it happened during combat training in england.
the plane slammed into the field near an elementary school. thankfully the pilot did manage to eject safely. it's still unclear what caused that crash. at & t slapped with a massive fine this morning for unauthorized charges on your bill. the company agree to go pay $105 million after charging for things like horoscope texts and celebrity gossip from third party companies. the federal trade commission saying at & t was keeping the profits from at least a third of those bogus charges. if you are an at & t customer, you can look for your refund by heading to the ftc's web site. it's ftc.gov and you can make a claim on that site. a usc fighter's pride takes a beating after he tells a guy to google him and then he gets socked in the face. >> oh, dear. >> you know who i am line.
seconds later, ufc star cody gibson tackles the man to the ground before security breaks up that bar fight. it happened in vegas. and gibson admits he's embarrassed now and he tweeted this out. when it rains, it pours. if you are human, you make mistakes. the worth of a man is not whether or not he falls. it's if he gets up. those are your headlines. i thought what happened in vegas stays in vegas. >> not if you have an iphone. did he end up on top? did he beat the guy up, do we know? >> what did the video show? >> it showed him taken down with a two-legged take down, but we didn't see much else. >> he did get back up. >> in every way. >> thank you very much. you've seen this, a routine traffic stop ends with shattered glass and with a stun gun. (scream). >> the family inside that vehicle says it's excessive force. police officers say it was
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quarter after the top of the hour. how did a routine traffic stop end up like this? >> ma'am, are you going to open the door? >> how can you say nobody is going to hurt you? people are getting shot by the police. (scream). >> oh, man. the guy in the passenger seat refused to comply with the police for 13 minutes before you just saw the window was shattered. now those two people are suing the cops. so do they have a case? joining us right now for a legal debate is a pg tv commentator and drummer for 20-pound sledge. also joining us is civil rights attorney, andel brown. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> alfonso, as you look at this video, you say that the people inside the vehicle did everything wrong. >> yes, yes. all you had to do was do what the cop said.
i don't think the cop was asking them for their kidney. he just asked them to get out of the car. get out of the car. >> for a long time. >> yes. she could have been on her way to the hospital and she was worried about seeing her mom before she died. she could have been well on her way. >> okay. andel, what do you see? >> when i look at this video, the question i ask myself is do they have a legal obligation to do what the cops are asking them to do? the truth is, they don't. it's a consentual encounter. when a consentual encounter is made, you do not have to identify yourself as a passenger in the vehicle and you do not have to get out of a vehicle. so if they say no, the encounter is over and there is nothing more to be done at that point. >> and the passenger is the one who refused to produce a document for -- apparently he was asked for his driver's license and he said, i don't have it. i had to give it up because i got a ticket and he was showing them a ticket.
right? >> yeah. he showed them a document with his name on them. according to the case out of nevada that was decided in the supreme court, once someone identifies themselves, it's over. >> this cell phone video was taken by one of the children in the back seat. listen to this. here you can hear the woman who is trying to get to the hospital say she's worried about her safety. >> what was the purpose of a gun? and now they're asking me to open my door so i can get out. i'm scared. if you could pull out a gun in -- there is two kids in the back seat. >> there were two kids in the back seat. alfonso, the family now is going to sue the cops for probably a lot of money. >> this has become more complicated than it needs to be. even the person that she's on the phone with is telling her, do not make this worse on yourself. just get out of the car. you don't even have to see what's going on to know that they're doing everything wrong. the person on the other end of the phone is do don't make it
worse, get out of the car. don't worry about the kids' safety. they got the windows rolled up and both smoking in the car. they're not worried about the kids' safety. >> you say this was an instance of excessive resistance to what the police officers was asking them to do, which you say was reasonable. >> yes. and the restraint -- the passenger, he's reaching all over the place, he's reaching off into the back seat, let me get my backpack, let me do that. the restraint by these cops is amazing. they seriously deserve a doughnut after the job they did. >> andel, you say this was excessive force by the police. >> alfonso is definitely amusing and absolutely wrong. this is excessive force. there is no crime that they suspect jamal jones has committed, so there is no reason to detain him. under a consentual encounter, the force has to be reasonable to the threat. they're talking for a long time. if you watch the video, there is
a very calm exchange going on. there is no belief that he's reaching for anything. it's are you going to open the door or not? it's are you going to do what i'm going to do or i'm going to show you who is boss and that's what happened on the side of the road. i don't believe in getting into those kind of contests with an officer. but at the same time, we expect them to act in a professional and reasonable manner. using force, tasing someone, breaking the fellows in front of children -- the glass in front of children is not reasonable and that force was excessive. >> i'm glad you mentioned that. the police officer said he was reaching into the back seat and they were worried it was a weapon. so that's why they broke the glass, according to the police. alfonso rachel and andel brown, great debate. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, incredible images, an airport goes up in flames. what led to this massive destruction? then this doctor had a life-threatening wake-up call, so he changed his life and his body. how did he do it?
dr. z is going to tell us when he joins us. by the way, he's got a new book. good morning, dr. z. ♪ ♪
quick headlines now from around the world. the big update. the f.b.i. is getting very close to i.d.ing the english speaking terrorist. >> we're here in the 17th division military base just outside the city of aropka. >> that's just one day after asking for information on this man. the f.b.i. receiving hundreds of leads on their tip line. and the cease fire in ukraine was not able to save a major airport. new images show the destruction of the main terminal after a battle between pro-russian rebels and ukrainian forces.
china just overtook the u.s. as the world's largest economy. the international monetary fund basing the ranking on purchasing power, saying chinese domestic product is worth $17.6 trillion compared to 17.4 onfor the u.s. -- trillion for the u.s. after being diagnosed with cancer in 2006, this doctor was motivated to rebuild his life, but his entire body and also give others the tools to do the same thing. his own personal transformation is astounding, to say the least. he's currently working with former "good morning america" host joan lunden who was diagnosed with breast cancer this past june. joining us, we're happy to have him as the author of the book "rebuild." thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> 2006, they find cancer. >> yes. >> non-hodgkin's lymphoma. you decide to build because you said i created this disease.
i'm going to fix it and rebuild myself. you take major ownership for cancer, first off. the transformation is astounding. i can't wait to hear how you can do this, but why did you blame really your own actions and self? >> it's not that i blamed my own actions. i think people need to realize that what you do to yourself and how you create the internal environment for yourself will really push knew a place of disease. so when i say that i've created my disease, i didn't take care of my stress. i didn't eat like i should. i wasn't exercising the way i normally would. and not taking care of all those things i normally do set up the stage for cancer in my body. to take ownership, i guess i do. >> admirable. >> as research says, only 5% of cancers are genetic. 95% are rooted in lifestyle. >> so you are what you eat. you've been eating a lot of the wrong stuff. >> well, at the time i unfortunately was. >> you're not alone. a lot of people do. >> i think when people get
stressed, they go into a place that's kind of dark. >> at the time you were starting your business. you had a lot of pressure on you. you were being sued at the time. >> well, it wasn't sued. i just had somebody -- >> legal problem. >> yes. i was having someone in my office doing unfavorable things. >> you want to get your body into shape. you have before and after shots of people you worked with. >> yes. >> so here is mimi, for example. tell me about her. >> mimi is a phenomenal woman. she's breast cancer victor and she came to me through a business networking group and said, you need to help me rebuild. so we put her on the rebuild program, which is a specific food plan, supplement regiment and exercise program and you can see mimi's results. she was also set up for or had risks for cardiovascular disease, high cholesterol, other inflammatory marks that would dictate maybe she would be heading back to cancer and all of those are gone. >> astounding. joan lunden, you've been working with her. what are you able to tell us?
>> i can't give you too much information on it, but joan is a warrior and when she gets something in her head, she goes with it. the principles of "rebuild" really helped her get through her process. >> what are those principles? if you're at home right now, obviously reading your book is key. but what are some things we can take away today to say do these three things and it will be a difference maker? >> the three things are if you can just focus on eating all nutrient dense whole foods, getting rid of processed foods. if you can incorporate 20, 25 minutes of high intensity interval training into your schedule four or five times a week, and just taking basic nutrients like multi vitamin, vitamin c, d, you'll have a greatest impact on your help. >> what about sleep? >> sleep is a big one. >> oops. wrong host. >> i was going to say. when people are stressed like i was, you don't sleep well. how do you feel when you don't sleep? you kind of feel a little hungover. that's an inflammatory process.
all of those -- >> we sleep when we are in bed. just getting to the bed is the issue. thanks so much. i'm glad you're okay. >> thank you. >> man, are you in great shape. >> i appreciate that. >> "rebuild" is the name of the book. go get it. thank you very much. up next, if you value your sleep, then you will want to live in this city. the best and worst places to catch some z's. >> speaking of. and a homeless vet asking for money in the streets had his sign torn to piece. just wait until you hear why. ♪ ♪ you make a great team.
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the guys have come up with frightening creations just for fright fest at six flags. we're getting the first taste. chef josh capone and tony luke, junior, joining us now and i smell bacon and syrup. >> what is this? >> a bacon franken funnel dog. >> are you trying o scare our heart or circulation? >> a combination of ordinary ingredients that come to lifement we partnered with pepto to create something extraordinary. a monster mash-up for fright fest. it is a franken bacon but butter
ball. >> what do you mean you teamed up with pepto-bismol? >> you're going to grab a dog and chances are you're going to overdo it. we tend to overdo it many times. even when i'm work every day as an ordinary chef, i'm tasting different foods all day. at six flags, the pepto chopper will be there to rescue you. >> does it come with kyle to bring you back to life at the end of the day? >> moderation. look at that. a little powdered sugar. bacon!
>> i actually ate part of the stick. it's delicious! there goes the pepto copter. we got to turn it on. >> this will be making many flights, i'm sure. >> delicious. >> i have a feeling people are going to love this. >> pepto, i need you! bacon! >> josh and tony, check out the franken food at six flags. >> ainsley, this is calling your name when you're done. >> we'll save you one before they're all gone. >> i'm going to tell you some of the news. the mother of globe customer tears the navy seal murdered in the benghazi terrorist attack opening up to greta van susteren. barbara dougherty talking about why it took more than a month after her son's death for the f.b.i. director robert muller to
reach out. >> he couldn't find my contact number. and i said, do you mean my phone number? i said you are the f.b.i he said, yes. so then i sort of was laughing to myself and i said, you're going to stick to this little story, aren't you? >> barbara filed a lawsuit against the obama administration now. this video is incredible. a newly restored world war ii era plane crashes nose first while trying to land in louisiana. the pilot had engine trouble earlier in the day, but it's not clear if that is what caused the crash. amazingly the pilot and his passenger were not injured. the german fighter was worth about $2 million. the city that never sleeps living up to its nickname. a new study found people who live in brooklyn, new york get the least amount of sleep in america.
on average, they get to bed past 11:40 at night. who gets the most amount of sleep? people who live in hawaii. >> no kidding. >> they hit the sack at 10:30 at night. this next story is going to blow your mind. a homeless veteran asking for money ask approached by a man on the street in vegas. but then watch. the guy rips the veteran's sign to pieces. just wait 'til you see why. roll the rest of this tape. >> i figured this would help, though. it seems kind of weird to do that. >> are you one of those street musicians that's going to make this into a wad of money. >> i actual israeli a wad of money for you. >> here is the best part, the magician has done that in the past. this army veteran made quite an impact on the entertainer.
he set up a go fund me page to get him back on his feet. so far they have raised $13,000. those are your headlines. i think i'm tossing to maria now. no, i'm not. >> you're not. >> we have the power. >> it's our magic trick. >> thank you for the toss. i got a feeling now we go to maria. >> you know everything. >> good morning. good to see you. temperatures are cooling off out here in new york city, but it's still the atlantic hurricane season. i want to point out this incredible stat that the capitol weather gang has put out. florida has gone more than 3270 days without a hurricane. nearly nine years. by far, the longest stretch on record. incredible. been a very quiet atlantic hurricane season. that's good news, but across the pacific ocean, we've had very
tough weather in terms of hurricane activity. very active season. right now we actually have super typhoon heading towards japan and surrounding islands. out here we're looking at what would be a category 4 hurricane. so that's the equivalent out there. maximum sustained winds at 155 miles an hour. incredible storm system across the western pacific ocean. now, across the lower 48, we have areas of rain across parts of arizona and new mexico and areas of rain as well in parts of missouri and the plains. out there we do have the risk for flash flooding. let's head back inside. >> all right. going to feel like fall this weekend. thank you very much. can't wait to start rake. i love the sound of it -- >> you can do it right now. >> they're just holding out right now. >> are you serious? >> i'll bring some of mine. >> ours were coming down in august. coming up, who will replace eric holder as attorney general? we just learned the top two picks may now be immersed in a
prostitution scandal. peter johnson, jr. is going to sort it all out for you. and they're supposed to be some of the smartest students in the world. >> what is a bigger threat to world peace, america or isis? >> to world peace? oh, america. >> in many ways i think it's america. >> the man who caught those harvard students on camera with us next. first trivia question, born on this date in 1952, this tv host is the wife of the godfather of heavy metal. who is she? be the first to e-mail us. you'll be the winner. ♪ ♪ (male announcer) it's happening.
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sounds, the sound of your car alarm. but in this case, the warning was a welcome one. just take a look. the alarm was set off by a pretty big mountain lion on top of a toyota camry. good luck. and how about waking up to the sound of your own car horn honking? in this case, it was a black bear leaning on the horn. look at that. it happened in colorado. the bear looking for a late night snack, but he got stuck in the car and could not get out. barely he did. >> thankfully not my car. an explosive new report alleges that the white house covered up a major story during the height of the president's reelection campaign and what's worse, we just learned that the top two picks may now be immersed in a prostitution scandal. peter johnson, jr. is here to sort it all out for us and focus in. >> it's a story in the "washington post." they're detailing what appears to be denied by the white house,
denied by department of homeland security, two breaches in terms of protocol, in terms of investigation. an investigator with the department of homeland security i.g.'s office says he was pressured by the i.g.'s office to delay the report until the election had passed. the presidential election passed in 2012. there is also issues with regard with not only janet napolitano's involvement here, but also katherine reumner, who is speculated to be a cab at this time to replace eric holder as attorney general. she conducted a confidential and quick white house investigation into the scandal and determined that one jonathan dack, a 25-year-old basically intern day laborer as it were, political appointee who was there at the trip did nothing wrong. and so while two dozen secret service and military personnel were either fired or disciplined and took polygraph tests and
were thrown about the media as being in a terrible scandal, the white house quickly excuh pated its own employee. this is a huge story. >> involving prostitution here. i want to ask you about the two pictures we saw coming up. a big position here. explain to everyone. >> i think they have been rumored to be considered by the white house to take on eric holder's job as attorney general. so now based on the "washington post" story, there is huge questions about their stewardship with regard to miss reumner, did she properly investigate the scandal? did she honestly investigate the scandal, and whether miss napolitano denies it and the white house denies it, but with regard to miss napolitano, did she pressure her own inspector general to delete portions of a
report, to leave certain things out? the white house has responded to this. they've responded in a strong way. they have denied wrongdoing up and down. they denied it previously to a senate committee which investigated to this. in fact, they said the senate committee discredited the whistle blower as it were here. they allege that he was not telling the truth with what went on. >> the white house said back then in 2012, jay carney said, we don't know anything about this. we learned about it when everybody else did reading the newspaper. >> you look at the clips of questions asked by ed henry and other people from fox and other news organizations and a big story in the a.p. as well around that time, it appears that the statements that they made, if you believe the accusations in the "washington post," it appears that their statements weren't credible at the time. so obviously this is going to foster a new set of investigations. what did janet napolitano know? what did miss heumner know?
did they adequately perform investigations as head of dhs and white house counsel. that means that you're the to the president. should the president's lawyer have undertaken that investigation herself? and was there a whitewash? we don't know the answers. the "washington post" today says it was a whitewash. we will look and see what the answers are going forward. this is going to pop. >> it was an important year. we understand reelection year, and perhaps protecting this young man to have been -- >> mistake or crime? >> involved with a prostitute? >> negligence or intentional? we'll see. >> peter johnson, jr., we know you'll stay on it. they are supposed to be some of the smartest students in the world at harvard. >> as a western civilization, we're to blame for a lot of the problems we're facing now. i don't think anyone would argue that we didn't create the problem of isis ourselves. >> the man who caught them on camera saying just that. the ivy league is here with us
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the answer to the trivia question sharon osborne. the winner is from cypress, texas, he'll get a copy of my new book. who is a greater threat to america and to peace, i should say? america or isis? yesterday this video got a lot of you fired up.
>> to world peace. oh, america. >> american imperialism and our protection much oil interests in the middle east are destabilizing the region and allowing groups like isis to gain power. >> as a western civilization, we're to blame for a lot of the problems that we're facing now. i don't think anyone would argue we didn't create the problem of isis ourselves. >> right. this morning the man behind it joins us now. caleb bonham. the editor and chief of campus reform. first off, people are stunned because this is maybe one of the top three schools in the country, possibly the most famous in the world. you found this school of thought. how many people would you say you edited out to get tho those like minded people who blamed us, not isis? >> the initial question that i asked, two or three people said isis was a greater threat to world peace. but then i was shocked to see that student after student, as we continued our interviews
found ways to blame america. and i've seen at the leadership campus reform is that this is sort of a fad that's sweeping the nation. it's been doing so for several years where the students think it's high brow to be able to somehow blame america for the world's ills. >> so what was the point of going there to bring this up? to prove what your theory was? >> the idea was to ask what people really thought of this. i know that among these institutions of higher learning, students are being taught in class that america is to blame. they're hearing our president on many cases talk about how america is to blame. they're hearing situation after situation where america is the root of all evil. i wanted to hear -- i really expected every student to look at me, roll their eyes and say, come on. isis is the problem here. but what i find funny about our video is that -- it's sad, my video proves students are listening to what they're
learning in class. that's concerning. >> what's been the reaction? your goal with campus reform is to expose what you say is liberal bias on campuses. but on this in particular when you did it at harvard and got the answer to that comparison, what's the reaction been over the last 24 hours? >> well, it's been fascinating. i think the majority of people are outraged that students are trying to draw the idea that isis poses a greater threat to world peace than america does. america historically has liberated the oppressed. we've strengthened and supported the weak across the country, across the world in war after war. and so it sparked a lot of debate. some people are outraged. then you have a string of people that are trying to support these students in what they're saying that america is to blame. >> so that question came up on a composition question at harvard, that answer probably would have got them an a? >> unfortunately. they would have looked at it as
diversity of thought. and probably valued that more than somebody trying to support the good that america has done world wide. >> go to campusreform.org, right, and you can find out more >> caleb, thanks so much. disturbing but necessary. four minutes before the top of the hour. a fox news alert as we go to break, we're following this story, angry airline workers walking off the job this morning over fears of catching the ebola virus. we're live from the airport where it's all happening. incredible pictures taken moments after a u.s. air force f-15 falls from the sky. the plane erupts in flames. but the pilot walks away
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good morning. today is thursday, october 9. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. this morning airline workers are walking off the job over fears of catching the ebola virus. we are live with the impact on
travelers today. a brand-new bombshell at the white house. something kept secret for more than two years and it all goes back to this. >> was the president aware that there were allegations like this? >> i don't know that any of us were aware of that 'til we read newspaper reports. >> brand-new details on the hooker scandal that everybody in washington is going to be talking about today. that means you will be, too. >> what made these patriot cheerleaders put on their opponents' jersey. it's great story and brought this defensive tackle to tears. devon here to explain what's going on with him and his family. mornings are better with friends. >> hello, my name is adam west. sometimes known as bruce wayne or batman, and you're watching "fox & friends," as i do every morning. >> it was great to see adam west
yesterday. >> fantastic. lives out in idaho, watches "fox & friends" every day. >> really? >> and it was odd to see him without robin. i thought they still traveled together. >> only in our hearts. >> every year he knows what exactly he's going to be for halloween. >> not on wednesday. >> not on wednesday? >> that was on the after the show show. it's still posted today. >> it is indeed. it was at the end of yesterday's show. today we got big news. we start with a fox news alert. the united states steps up screening in the face of ebola, workers at la guardia airport here in new york city walked off the job. they said we don't have the right training, the material if somebody shows up with ebola. so we're not going to work until we get something. >> that is right. joining us live with the brand-new details on that and how it will impact travelers, doug luzader is live at dulles. good morning to you. >> good morning. it seems like every day there is a new aspect to this ebola story. we have been talking a lot about airline passengers and what they're going to have to go through. now we're talking about people behind the scenes that you never
even see sometimes. in case of la guardia, these are some of them cabin cleaners, people that actually clean the aircraft that say they're not properly equipped to deal with aircraft that could potentially be contaminated with the ebola virus. here is a union representative. >> they're given no equipment, no tools, no training that is appropriate for the kind of challenges we need for our airport to be safe for passengers and workers alike. >> reporter: they're concerned about the ebola virus. obviously the federal government is concerned as well. that's why they're looking at five airports around the country. five major airports to institute new screening protocols for some passengers. the airports we're talking about here at dulles international outside of washington, d.c., but also jfk and newark, as well as atlanta and chicago. those five airports looking for passengers that are coming from
three countries in particular in west africa, sierra leone, guinea and liberia. they will be screened, which means they will have their temperature taken. they will be asked specific questions about their health and depending on those answers, they could be quarantined. >> if any travelers are found to either have a fever or have history of contact with ebola, then the on-site centers for disease control and prevention public health officer will further interview that individual. >> reporter: now, a couple of potential complications here. first of all, we're not talking about necessarily direct flights from liberia to the united states because these people take connecting flights. so the department of homeland security will have to figure out where these people originated from, what connecting cities may have been involved before they assess whether someone needs additional screening. also the other aspect to this, the fact that there is an
incubation period. so it's certainly possible, likely, in fact, that someone may not be symptomatic when they get off the airplane and would not necessarily be caught in these additional screenings. steve, brian and elisabeth, back to you. >> good point. doug, we thank you. >> thank you. big scandal right now. let's go back to 2012. remember how nearly two dozen secret service members were asked to leave their positions because of a prostitution scandal that occurred in colombia. >> right. >> big summit, reelection year. also what we're finding out now, though, is that apparently there was, even though it was denied at the time, the white house knew that someone else was involved. the other person involved happened to be someone in the white house staff. >> that's right. >> student and volunteer jonathan dach, 25-year-old yale law student at the time. he repeatedly denied bringing prostitute to his hotel room. but the facts tell a different story.
so does the inspector general. >> jay carney was asked about this whole thing. these are allegations today in the "washington post." jay carney back in 2012 was asked about did anybody at the white house know about this, that there was somebody from the white house involved? and he said this. >> was the president aware that there were allegations like this before the news report this morning? >> i don't think so. i doubt it. i don't know that any of us were aware of it 'til we read newspaper reports. >> okay. that as it turns out is absolutely a lie because according to the "washington post" today, senior aides knew after the scandal, the weekend after the scandal that there was apparently a white house assistant, a volunteer, per diem kid, the son of a big donor involved. the person who -- one of the key people, according to the "washington post," who knew about it was the white house
counsel, katherine ruemmler. she had an investigation over the weekend. secret service went to her and gave her all the evidence, including receipts and photocopies of this guy's room down in cartagena. apparently the way they work is if you bring a hooker to your room, you got to register them. so the hooker gave the front desk her i.d. and they put it on his particular room charge. >> they're still looking for the prostitute, by the way. >> you heard that clip there, we just found out about it like everybody else, in the paper. when you understand that twice ruemmler said no, no offense occurred here in terms of the allegations of this 25-year-old man. then you have david nieland, lead investigator in the secret service prostitution scandal, he told senate staffers that he was directed to delay the release of the report until after the election because it might not bode so well for the president and the white house. this is the quote.
we were directed at the time to delay the report of the investigation 'til after the 2012 election. that is david nieland's quote. >> kessler says the timing was not coins dentsal. >> i think it's a very clear cut cover-up, even more clear cut than benghazi because we know exactly who made the decision and that it was the white house counsel. it's really the white house that's the key here and they perpetuated a double standard where secret service agents were fired for hiring pros suits as they should have been, yet their own aide was involved and they covered that up. it's another way to make sure that president obama was reelected. >> and how many times have we heard that in advance of the election, allah benghazi, nothing there to see, folks. judge napolitano was sitting this on the curvy couch about an hour and a half ago. who can get in big trouble? here is the judge. >> the government is allowed to
lie to us. we're not allowed to lie to the government. but government officials lying to government officials can be a crime. so if an investigator in the i.g.'s office, the inspector general's office was told to lie to investigators from the senate committee looking at this prostitution scandal, like deny that the president knew this, and he does concoct and express that lie, he can be prosecuted. >> as for the young man, jonathan dach, the volunteer who according to the "washington post," brought the hooker to his room because they've seen all the documentation, did he get fired? well, right now he works for th. he is a policy advisor on global women's issues at the state department, which is ironic. here is the guy who hires hookers and -- a hooker and is allegedly on the global women's issues department at state. >> congressman jason chaffetz a
little later will talk about this and other things live in our studio. in 22 minutes. right now we're going to turn to ainsley who has breaking news for us. breaking overnight, violent protests erupt not guilty st. louis, missouri, after a police officer shoots a teen-ager dead. look at this one protester trying to pull the officer down. then another man is caught recording the cops with two cameras, while others start kicking their car. this all started when another officer saw three men on the street. the cop claims one of those men grabbed at his waistband, indicating he was carrying a gun. the cop chased him and that's when the teen-ager turned and fired at the officer. the cop fired back, killing him. this all happening the same day that protesters planned to take to the streets in nearby ferguson to mark two months since michael brown's death. caught on camera, the stunning moment a u.s. air force
plane crashes and bursts into flames. it happened during combat training in england. the f-15 slammed into the field right near an elementary school. the pilot did manage to eject safely. it's still not clear what caused that crash. the surprising star of the senate debate in kansas is harry reid. but for all the wrong reasons. in one corner you have reason senator pat roberts and the other, independent candidate greg orman. both traded blows over reid. take a listen. >> in fact, a vote for greg orman is a vote to hand over the future of the country to harry reid and barak obama. >> as i said, i believe obama and reid are part of the problem. >> the latest fox news poll shows roberts with a five-point lead, getting 44% of the vote. rocker sting already in the rock'n'roll hall of fame for his music with the police. ♪ roxanne ♪ you don't have to put on the
red light ♪ >> sure. i'll see what i can do about that. we need that louder for brian. there you go. thank you. now he himself is on the ballot. sting among 14 other nominees. they include greenday, lean on me singer bill withers and guitarist stevie ray vaughn. the voting is in december. they aired that later after the actual -- >> they do. >> i love it. >> you know how i love broadway. it's coming to -- sting is coming to broadway. and i love musicals. i'm look for the dates. any musical, you can cap me. >> you're soliciting on world wide television for a date to go to broadway? >> ainsley asked me to bring her. >> no other woman allowed. me with brian. >> thank you. >> fine! you take him. >> wow. thanks for the fight, elisabeth.
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welcome back. 46 minute million people have been put on food stamps over the past 35 months straight. that's an all-time record that nobody wants. >> so with one in five households getting handouts, john stossel took to the streets to find out how to solve the problem of poverty. >> what should america do about poverty? >> oh, my gosh. that is too big of a question. >> that's a hard one. >> here is one answer. just give people money. one country may do that. many people's minds tell them spread the wealth. >> i think we should be less greedy. i think we should share more. >> and especially -- >> increase minimum wage. >> is the minimum wage really
the answer? john stossel joins us, host of "stossel" to answer that question. it's not the answer. i mean, millions and millions of dollars over the course of the last months, this is not a solution, you say. >> and it's not millions or even billions. since the war on poverty began, you had a graphic up 15 trillion. it's adjusted for inflation, 22 trillion they spent. the poverty rate went down to 12%. but then it went back up again. we taught people to be dependent. >> instead of a way out, it's a trap. it does help people initially, but they don't get out of it. >> i'm a sucker if i'm not taking a handout. the outrageous part is before the war began, the line was going like this. americans were lifting themselves out of poverty on their own. >> if you bring that up as a politician, you're known as
heartless, you only care about the rich. you only want the people who support your campaign. >> they say that about paul ryan and republicans. >> let's listen. >> paul ryan doesn't want to invest. he just wants to cut down the size of government and trust the private sector to do everything. >> how much investment -- >> in the 1920s. >> how much investment do you want? the war on poverty has cost $22 trillion. we're already deep in debt. there aren't enough young people to pay for the debt now. you just want to keep spending more? it's all going to be happy good? >> great point. >> and it's not going to be happy good. certainly it feels good to give people money, have these programs. >> especially the ones who need it. >> there is no evidence that they work. the minimum wage that you mention, yeah, it's only fair. but it doesn't occur to people, that's the reason nobody is pumping your gas at a gas station. that's the reason that there is no apprentice -- i'm not going to hire a kid if i have to pay
minimum wage and i might as well hire somebody experienced if i'm paying that much. >> once upon a time there was a stigma, if you're on relief, you're getting food from the county or something like that, there was a stigma. now it seems like it's so easy to get whatever you need, people do it. >> it's still somewhat of a stigma, there is a concept in some neighborhoods, if you're not taking it, you're a sucker. >> have you thought about doing a whole show on this? >> we're doing a whole show. you mentioned something important. rich people get a lot of welfare, too. i got flood insurance, entitlements go to rich people. not just the poor. >> good point. >> tonight at 9:00 o'clock. >> starring john stossel. >> thanks, john. up next, one vet told to make doctors appointments every two weeks. but they're not available for months. has anything really changed at the v.a.? we'll examine. then patriots cheerleaders put on their opponentses'
jerseys, bringing the bengals offensive tackle to tears. the story behind it from devon himself. he joins us live. good morning ♪
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they all lost their lives because of preventable medical errors, now the third leading cause of death. only heart disease and cancer take more lives. proposition 46 will save lives with drug and alcohol testing to make sure impaired doctors don't treat someone you love. safeguards against prescription drug abuse. and holds the medical industry accountable for mistakes. i'm barbara boxer. let's save lives. vote yes on 46. 23 minutes after the top of the hour on this thursday. we got some headlines for you. here is a travel tip. next time you're boarding an airplane, don't ask the pilot if he's been drinking. a passenger on jetblue made a joke about the pilot being drunk, forcing security to perform a mandatory test on the pilot. so the pilot kicked everybody off the airplane.
kyle forden freaking out about a laser pointer hitting him in the eyes during sunday's game in detroit. you can also see it here on holder as well. the culprit was just found. now he is banned from nfl games for the rest of his life. brian? what made these patriot cheerleaders put on their opponents' jerseys during sunday night's games against the cincinnati bengals. >> it was a most inspiring tribute to number 75 devon still. his four-year-old daughter leah is battling pediatric cancer and their gesture brought a tear to his eye and it's just the latest show of support for still and his family this season. >> joining us now is that defensive tackle himself going through a tough time, but standing strong for us this morning, devon still. so sorry your daughter has to go through this. for a lot of people that are just get to go this story late,
what would make the patriots cheerleaders put on your jersey? >> it was actually a surprise to me. ever since i broke the news that my daughter had cancer, a lot of people have been stepping up to show support. i didn't really expect the patriots to do that in the middle of a game. so being able to see that video that they had up on the big screen, of them being able to look over and see the cheerleaders wearing my jersey, it was definitely a touching moment. >> how emotional this had to be for you. tell us about leah. i know she had surgery two weeks ago. how is she doing today? >> she had surgery two weeks ago to try to remove the cancerous tumor from out of her stomach, which was successful. this friday she starts her chemo. her last round of chemo to try to remove the cancer cells that are spread throughout her body. that's followed by a radiation stem cell transplant. >> i love that picture of her giving you a big kiss. this is what really got so many
people talking about it. it's the fire in your heart really reaching out to her and it went viral and after you see this, everyone will know why. >> i'm going to ask you again, i'm ready for today. you ready for today? you ready to get this cancer out of you? let's do it. >> that's amazing. there your daughter is getting fired up. she's got your toughness. every jersey of yours that's sold goes to the cincinnati children's hospital. correct? >> right. it goes to cancer research, pediatric cancer research, cincinnati children's hospital. the bengals are doing a great job stepping up to help me fight this cause against pediatric cancer. >> devon, you're so strong. i can only imagine what leah is teaching you. can you share a little bit of that with? >> i feel like i get my strength
in from my daughter. i feel like my family and close friends are getting their strength from my daughter. she's able to go through this process and be that same kid before we found out she had cancer. she's able to walk around with a smile and still have that energetic attitude, which we feed off of. she's teaching me a lot of things. she's put life into perspective for me and i know that i'm basically just cherishing every moment i have with family and friends. >> and then you immediately said hey, i'm not playing anymore and the bengals said no, we're going to put you on the practice squad to keep your insurance. then you decide to get back and play. as we see your picture in the middle of the game, the patriots played very well and beat you guys. your thoughts right there, because you play such a physical, demanding sport. at the same time, you look up. you see the jerseys and you see your daughter and the video of your daughter. what is going through your mind? >> it's a lot going through my mind. just that my daughter is a
fighter. the other kids in the video are fighters. just seeing the whole country come together like that and seeing the patriots organization come together like that, even though we're participating in a competition on the field, it's amazing to see the impact that we're having on pediatric cancer. >> $25,000 from robert craft. you found out in the post-game. i don't know what's going on with those boston fans, they're pushing for a cincinnati bengals player. tremendous class. >> every team is on your team, to say the least. you can count ours here at fox news as members of that team for you. >> go buy his jersey. the money goes to a great cause. devon, thanks so much and best of luck to you and your daughter. we'll be following you. >> thank you. >> big hug to leah. >> he's got practice a little later today. two minutes before the bottom of the hour. coming up, brand-new developments in the secret service bombshell. did the white house aides know
about the prostitution scandal and keep it quiet until after the 20 is it -- 2012 election? congressman jason chaffetz is o all over this. then a mom gets pulled over because her daughter is not in a booster seat. but instead of giving her a ticket, the officer bought her a car seat. your e-mails are pouring in on this story
fox news alert we've been following this morning. did white house officials know the prostitution scandal did not involve just the secret service, but also involved a white house aide as well? then ordered investigators to keep quiet until after the 2012 election. >> at that time the white house totally denied even knowing about it. >> there are no, to my knowledge, and have been no credible or specific allegations of misconduct by any member of the white house advance team or
white house staff. but out of due diligence, this review was conducted and there is no indication of any misconduct. >> congressman jason chaffetz is heading up a new investigation to find the truth and he's joining us right now. good morning. thanks for being here. >> good morning. >> apparently that 2012 statement there not true. what do you have to say about it? >> no. there were very credible and very specific allegations that a white house staffer was intimately involved with a prostitute. there are evidently hotel records. there are investigators that went down and looked at this. the "washington post" has done a fabulous job investigating this. our committee and the oversight committee is diving deep into this issue. the white house needs to come clean. there is a white house staffer that was very involved in this. remember, there were nearly two dozen secret service and military personnel that were either fired or reprimanded. but the concern is that when it
came to the white house and the white house taking care of its own personnel, totally different standard. and perhaps a misdirection and some cover-up to make sure that story never saw the light of day before the 2012 election. >> sure. then it wound up apparently inspector general wound up looking into it and then somebody in his team said we were directed at the time to delay the report until after the election. congressman, i know that -- i believe it was last week you wrote to the white house chief of staff and you wanted to know about how the white house concluded that nobody at the white house was involved because apparently somebody was. and apparently josh earnest tweeted you back last night. is that right? >> he did. he tweeted out this is an old story. so i tweeted -- and that had been fully vetted. so i tweeted back to the press secretary and said, well en, this you're obviously not going to have any problem sharing all the information that you have. katherine ruemmler, right there
in the white house, the counsel that supposedly looked at this, they have done a report and came to the conclusion that there was no wrongdoing and nothing to believe that this white house staffer had hired and brought a prostitute, a foreign national, back to his office in advance of the president's -- >> his hotel room. >> yeah, to his hotel room. so bring all this information and share it with the united states congress. that's what i asked the chief of staff last week. >> congressman, my first thought when i looked at this this morning is, okay. they covered it up. they did it for the election. you have "washington post" is all over this thing. it was all out there. i'm looking at this, why would they care the white house looked that bad with the 26-year-old volunteer advance man screwed up like this? to me it wouldn't seem as it would negatively affect the president enough to risk covering up a story like this. >> i don't know why they don't come clean on this. look, this person was paid by the united states government to go down there and given a per diem, hotel room. come clean on this. what happened to this person? remember, nearly two dozen
people were fired and reprimanded and secret service and military. what happened to this guy? he actually has been hired by the state department to work in the office of global women's issues. that's what he's doing now to represent the united states of america. so obviously we're going to look at this. come clean. share all the documents with us from the white house. they say it's an old story. well, then give us all the information and we'll come to -- let the american people see it. >> we should also point out that this fellow, the volunteer, jonathan dach, who allegedly, according to the "washington post" hired the hooker, took her back to the room. got the documentation. his father, a big donor for barak obama. but i'm sure that's just a coincidence, congressman. >> i'm sure, yeah. now he's working on global women's issue. the office of global women's issues at the state department. it really is offensive to the morale of the secret service, the men and women who served. they got reprimand.
they got fired. you had three people in the inspector general's office there in the department of homeland security who were put on administrative leave because they were asking questions and wondering why? why aren't we including this information about a white house staffer involved in this prostitution problem? >> a double standard, you say? >> yeah. that's the problem. if you want to solve the morale problem down there, why are we holding these people? why were these three people put on administrative leave? i find it more than coins dentsal that you had three people who were asking tough questions and believe that information should have been given to the public. that's what's so offensive. >> since it's old news, i'm sure they're going to be bringing all the documents over before you know it. thank you for joining us. >> i can hear them knocking. >> thank you for joining us from salt lake city today. >> and the republicans are to keep the house, he probably would be taking over the oversight committee. >> he's got this story about right now trying to get some answers. >> we are going to turn to ainsley now who has some headlines. a lot going on this morning.
>> thank you. brand-new developments in the v.a. scandal. we just learned about kevin trainer. he served as a combat rescue swimmer in the navy for 13 years. now the injured hero is being forced to wait months just to get an appointment for an mri at the v.a. >> six months and waiting for shoulder repair. that's ridiculous. >> here is the worst part. trainer says he's also supposed to receive counseling for ptsd every other week. the v.a. hospital in north carolina is only offering a it to him every four months. did the government learn its lesson from the lois lerner scandal? claiming the agency deleted thousands of text messages and they can not be recovered from the epa. this news in response to a request for those messages by a conservative think tank. it claims that they're using text messaging instead of e-mails to have off the record
conversations. and your e-mails are pouring in on this story this morning. ben hall could have given alexis a ticket. a michigan police officer pulls over this mother because her five-year-old daughter wasn't riding in the booster seat in the back seat. but after learning that she couldn't afford that seat, he bought her a $50 booster seat with his own money. they joined us earlier on "fox & friends". >> to change even just a little bit this family's life or lives, i felt that i was in that position to do it and i went ahead and did what i did. >> i'm grateful. i didn't really know what to say. i was at a loss for words. >> so i'm going to hand it over to you guys on the curvy couch to find out what the viewers are saying about that sweet story. >> thanks so much. angel tweeted this, now that is an officer who knows the meaning of protect and serve. good point. >> reporta wrote, glad you gave this good cop the acknowledgment
he deserves. and trisha e mailed, that was so sweet of him. i know a few people who need to learn from that officer. this is the best story of the week. >> it's a good one. meanwhile, we got some weather. it's getting cold here in new york city. maria molina put on a coat. >> yeah. i went upstairs and grabbed my jacket. it's a little chilly here early this morning. but one of the reasons why it's chilly is because we had a cold front move through the northeast and that system produced some damage across parts of massachusetts. take a look at this incredible video that's from a drone in massachusetts. we had a thunderstorm produce something called a micro burst. winds of over 100 miles per hour caused this damage. you can see that trees were brought down and that's across this region here in east hampton, massachusetts from that particular thunderstorm. today we are expecting more storms. that's specially true across parts of arizona and new mexico. there is a second region associated with another cold front across areas in illinois, missouri.
you are seeing those areas of rain early this morning. flooding is a concern across parts of missouri. that's where we do have several flash flood watches in effect. several inches of rain are forecast. temperatures today still on the warm side, though, across parts of oklahoma and texas. in the 80s and 90s. much cooler weather there. expect it coming up this weekend. let's head back inside. >> all right. thank you very much for the foxcast. >> thanks. while you were sleeping, airport workers walked off the job over fears of ebola. coming up, could a camera like this one right here ease their fears and yours? we're going to show you exactly what it can do and how it can help. >> then are you an at & t customer? take a closer look at your old phone bills because they might have socked you for something you didn't buy. >> oh, no. oh, no. ♪ ♪
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of the new york stock exchange and the numbers are? >> looking good, steve, elisabeth and brian. good morning. the numbers that came out in the latest week, 287,000 claims versus estimates of 294,000 claims. it's down 1,000 from last week. when you read into the numbers, ultimately it's good news. moves it to levels that we haven't seen basically the lowest levels in eight years. so that's good news. it means that employers are hanging on to their workers. we know that the economy has been improving. though slow. they've been hanging on to the workers to try to meet demand. slow demand, but it's been there. we saw a great day on wall street yesterday. our best day of the year, 2014. the stock market, we saw the dow up 274 points. that was basically all because of the fed. the fed saying look, we're still worried. we're still cautious. we're not changing those rates that are near zero. you know that. they've been near zero since
december of 2008. but they're worried about the global growth story and the strong u.s. dollar, guys. >> all right. nicole petallides down at wall street. it has been a lot like working at six flags. it's been a roller coaster this week. thank you very much. >> no doubt. >> thanks. by the way, don't miss nicole on our sister network. if you're not sure where to find "fox business" network, log on to foxbusiness foxbusiness.com/channelfinder. >> or if you see neil cavuto on the street, tap him on the shoulder and ask him. >> i saw him yesterday in the hall. we had a great conversation. go find them. this while you were sleeping now, airport workers walk off the job over fears of ebola. coming up, could a camera just like this one ease their fears and yours? we're going to show you exactly what it can do. >> that's what maria looks like thermally. let's check in with martha for a preview of what happens on the channel in 12 minutes. >> that i hay there. good morning. we are going to hear heartbreaking words from the mother of one of the men killed
in benghazi. ebola fears rise as a second patient is now in isolation. what happens now at united states airports to prevent more of this? senator candidate tom cotton is here. as election day gets closer, we'll show you how the numbers are shaping up, when bill and i see you at the top of the hour
about 200 workers walking off the job this morning at la guardia airport over fears of ebola. they say they don't have the right training to keep them from getting sick. that's why they're out in this after the government announced five united states airports will add fever screening for travelers from west africa. is that the best tool? should every airport be doing this very thing?
joining us is the director of crisis in emergency management and the former commander manager of jfk and la guardia airport. he's also the father of one of our producers. right now we're seeing these workers get out. they feel as though they're not prepped to deal with this crisis here. we suffered the tragedy of the first death as regards to ebola yesterday. we're in trouble. how could technology like this thermally detect ebola and why aren't we using it yet, because it's been used elsewhere. >> this camera has been used since the 2003 with the sars and other airports. it looks and measures the -- it can look and decide what the temperature of someone is and differentiate that. so as we look here, you can see that these people are warm. you can look at their nose and see their nose is cool because air is coming through it.
>> i'm going to come through your side. what we're seeing here is what you're seeing through the camera. this is real time. you are then marking -- is it the color that indicates temperature or you're getting the read here up on your screen? >> i'm getting both. the darker color people are cooler. the white color, which is their eyelids and around their t ducts shows their body temperature. we have somebody who is about 97.3 degrees. >> okay. >> we're showing that. >> you can come through our security check here. if this is being used at the airport, how would you implement it here in la guardia, jfk? >> you can set these up at areas of port holes where people have to come through on an international flight. it then would monitor the people and then using an intelligent video attachment such -- you can have the flair camera alert a person from the cdc who is down range with not only the thermal picture and a temperature, but
also a regular photograph, high definition photograph that says okay. this person needs more questioning. >> so what we're seeing right now is what this camera -- the capabilities are. so if this indeed were an airport, this is what would happen. someone would come through the checkpoint, you're hot. you come through, we get the read, and then you'd be able to actually perhaps detain someone or put them in a holding area for a little while to do further testing? >> exactly. they would then be questioned by people through the cdc or from u.s. public health who could then do additional testing. they could do a temperature testing. they could talk to them. this is not specific for ebola. any infection will cause the body temperature to go up. it could be something like just a skin infection. it could be they have a cold or the flu. when they did this testing back in 2003 in taiwan at the airport, they grabbed about 90 people in the first three months and none of them had h1n1, but
they did have malaria and other things. >> as we're seeing here, show us what these colors indicate. i notice that you said the tear ducts or the tear area will indicate the highest temperature typically? >> that's the closest to body core temperature. if you look at this person here, you can see their shirt is a darker color red. their nose is red because you have constantly got air going through it. so it's cooler than the rest of the body. if you look around their tear ducts, they're the highest because that's the closest to core body temperature. skin temperature is always a little less. >> can this, as an indicator with this technology, will it be a tool that you believe will be used here in the airports that we're seeing? >> absolutely. it's a good tool. it allows them to see a lot of people at a lot of time and do a lot of screening. not individual. what they're doing now is individual screening, one person at a time. it's going to cause delays and as the delays back up, it's going to be something that people are going to want to stop doing. this is something that can just
be on all the time. it's passive. it's not invasive. >> do you believe that this is something that the administration or homeland security are going to actually move forward with? >> i think they should. >> okay. thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >> pleasure to have you here and your daughter. she's an excellent producer. more "fox & friends" moments away ♪ i thought it'd be bigger. ♪ ♪ (dad) there's nothing i can't reach in my subaru. (vo) introducing the all-new subaru outback. love. it's what makes a subaru,a subaru.
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pretentious. how about a midnight express red? >> he was great and he watches "fox & friends" every morning. >> we should wave to him. >> see you tomorrow. bill: the ebola emergency in america. now a second person in isolation after showing signs of ebola. a sheriff's deputy being tested after just entering the apartment of that infected liberian national. he just went inside the apartment. we'll separate the fact from the fear. martha: if he tests positive the police officer will become the first person to contract ebola on american soil. this is coming hours after thomas eric duncan died of the
davises, and the trayvon martins of the world should not be open to people feeling they can do whatever they want and not have to be held accountable. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton, have a great weekend. "hardball" starts right now. a czar is born. let's play "hardball." ♪ ♪ good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. what a week it was. ebola goes to the white house. president obama puts a czar in charge. he takes the story from dallas, to washington, d.c. from the cdc to 1600 pennsylvania avenue. razzle-dazzle. who gives a damn if charlie likes his fan? you stop the debate for this? plus, who did you vote for? don't ask, don't tell. and hooray for gays.
pope francis opens his arms to same-sex couples. and guess who will emcee next year's oscars? neil patrick harris, that's who. and a push for african americans to vote republican. let's see what the week looked like. >> yes, we have confirmation, ron klain will be the new ebola czar. >> why are you reluctant to give an answer on whether or not you voted for president obama? >> bill, there's no reluctancey. >> we have an extremely peculiar situation now. somehow there is a fan there and for that reason, ladies and gentlemen, i am being told that governor scott will not join us for this debate. >> in a ground-breaking move, the vatican appears to be considering greater acceptance of gays and lesbians. >> he's hosted the emmys and the tonys, but now he'll have a date
with oscar. >> i'm in. nice. >> a round table tonight for the end of the week program. jonathan capehart, michelle bernard and david corn. the president took ownership of the ebola crisis and picked a point man for the effort. ron klain, former chief of staff to biden and gore. best known for his role in the florida recount crisis. in the hbo movie about that event, he was played by kevin spacey. >> the florida house has already voted to award the state to the bush. >> then we just file two lawsuits. one to set standards, the other to halt the legislature. we can do this. >> ron, nobody can fault you -- >> no, mr. vice president, please, listen to me. you cannot concede, not yet, sir. i beg of you, sir, just give me one more shot. >> pretty chilling stuff.
anyway, today the president's press secretary explained why klain was chosen. >> what we were looking for is not an ebola expert, but rather an implementation expert, and that's exactly what ron klain is. he's somebody who has extensive experience in the federal government. he's something that has extensive management experience when it comes to the private sector. >> is he a czar? is that his title? what is his title? >> his title, he is the ebola response coordinator. i know there's some republicans and even some pundits who are describing him as a czar. they're certainly welcome to do that. we describe him as the ebola response coordinator. >> he's the czar. last night the president answered a question, do you think you might have to pick a czar. they begin picking a czar. it's not the title in the books. but here's the question. within seconds of his being named after the republicans and everybody, especially republicans, said pick a czar, they said, screw the czar.
[ laughter ] they're all a bunch of bol cheffics. historically at least. why do they hit him when he was just picked? >> because he was picked by obama. they're for a travel ban. obama isn't. there's nobody he could have picked other than john boehner that they wouldn't have protested. i know ron klain and the way josh describes him is exactly right. his job is not to be the chief doctor. we have people at cdc. he is to be there for dod and hhs and cdc jam together on this stuff and to smooth it over from a bureaucratic perspective. now, is that truly necessary? maybe, maybe not. [ all speak at once ] >> we need somebody that's going to have policy, someone who is going to set the policy, slam the door on west africa or we
don't. somebody's got to do something on preparation, training nurses, make sure that gets done. and someone has to explain the whole damn thing to the country. this person has to wear a lot of hats. >> a lot of hats. but does his appointment as ebola czar make the general public feel any safer or more confident? i think the answer is no. when you say somebody has to be in charge. the person who should be in charge and the president of the united states and the surgeon general that we still don't have. >> right. >> we need to -- look, we need to have a surgeon general upon. >> who's fault is it that we don't have a surgeon general? >> it's congress's fault we don't have a surgeon general. the president knows who he wants and congress doesn't want that person because it's the president of the united states making the decision. >> take a look at this. before today, many republicans were pushing the president to appoint a czar. today many are attacking the new czar already. john fleming of louisiana
tweeted, obama appoints a czar, not even a doctor. congressman from maryland, worst ebola epidemic in history. president obama puts a government bureaucrat with no health care experience in charge. and here comes stephen king, he tweeted, president obama will name political operative ron klain as ebola czar. too much obama administration competition to name him "ebola spin czar." ted cruz said, we don't need another so-called czar. we need presidential leadership. this is a public health crisis and, the answer isn't another white house political operative. the answer is the commander in chief who stands up and leads, and banning flights from those nations and acting decisively to secure our southern border. the southern border, the african traffic, he's covering all the
ethnic bases. >> yeah, yeah. >> hispanics, blacks, probably got something for arabs too here. it's so blatantly tribal and not useful -- what's the southern border got to do with -- >> it has nothing to do with anything we're talking about. senator ted cruz, from texas, at reign of april. this 28 wtweet was fantastic. i'm not sure how you can ban flights from africa, but not out of texas. all of the cases are from people who worked with thomas eric duncan, who died, the first person who had ebola in the united states and died. now amber vinson, nina pham, the person on the cruise ship, all from texas. why aren't these people calling for a ban on flights from texas.
>> do the people on the carnival cruise line know who is cruising with them? >> they do now. >> this is going to be like jonah and the whale. >> what's still amazing, the republican party is once again doing their war on science. you ask any public health expert on this, and they'll say a travel ban is a bad idea. [ all speak at once ] >> i know emotionally -- >> tell me why it is. >> because the way to deal with ebola is to stop the fire where it's burning brightest, which is in africa. if you have a travel ban, people can't get in, people can't get out. >> i so, so totally disagree on this. british airways has enacted a travel ban. we have to be really serious about this. why import it into the country? >> we're not importing it. >> but there can be exceptions made, doctors, health care providers that need to go to africa and deal with the crisis
can fly -- let me finish. [ all speak at once ] >> imagine if you are the person who, for example, all the women who were in this bridal boutique in texas over the weekend, shopping with someone with ebola, doesn't know it. my 8-year-old daughter has asked me, why are we not treating people in africa? somebody answer that question. >> politico has a great story, they talked to transportation experts who say, that if you ban all commercial flights, there's no way you can get people in and out to deal with this the way you need to. >> the military aircraft can do that. >> we don't have that happening. >> but we can have it happen. >> secretary levitt who is hhs secretary under bush was on this network earlier today saying that every study that's been done with travel bans and epidemics has shown that they don't work. [ all speak at once ] >> didn't we go through this? there's precedence here.
didn't they shut down all traffic and -- >> and what did we do with h 1 n 1 influencea, with the pandemic. there were all kinds of things that were enacted that we're still not doing. we don't have all the answers. [ all speak at once ] >> it's not the right thing to do. >> but the public health -- we don't want people to panic, but the public health experts have also told us you can't easily transmit it. >> where are you on this? >> i think it's a bad idea, also because, one, you can't do it because there are no direct flights, as jeremy peters said. >> it's through brussels and paris -- >> right. but you lose the ability to monitor and track. you will have people who will slip out of guinea, sierra leone, the other country that i cannot remember. >> liberia. >> liberia, thank you. and come through europe and other places where the person looking at passports are not going to see they've come from these places. i think it's important from a
public health standpoint that we know who has the disease -- >> won't they still see the origin, where they came from. >> let's say they're coming through australia. do the australians let them on the plane? let's say they're coming through singapore. [ all speak at once ] >> people who don't have passports from these countries. the experts state it's not practical and won't have real benefit. i know people are freaked out, but we've had only three cases so far and no american is yet to die from this. >> and it's three too many. the question i would ask is, if we can't control, if the hospital can't control, i think it's texas presbyterian, didn't even keep a list of all of the people who were in contact with the gentleman who died, how on earth do we think that we are safe by continuing to allow people to come in the country and we don't even know if they're sick? >> well, travel ban won't lead to better hospital practices. and thousands of more people die
from the flu in this country than ebola. >> for liberals, progressives and moderates on this panel, tough question. is the president trusted on this? or do people think he's being politically correct? do they trust him to make a national security on this, or are they saying he doesn't want to offend the african countries? that's what i keep hearing. >> i think -- i trust the president to do the right thing, but the appointment of klain as a czar that doesn't direct -- does not report directly to the president, but reports to susan rice and to the homeland security people, that smells of politics. he should be reporting to the president. >> he should be a czar? >> absolutely. >> and i agree with michelle on that. but we have to keep in mind, there are capable people in the places where they need to be. dr. frieden is a very respected person in the field of infectious diseases. >> i agree. >> he's been an incredible leader of the cdc. >> why don't they make him the
czar? [ all speak at once ] >> we don't want to take him away from what he's doing. >> there's a different philosophy, even in moderate form, the republican philosophy. there has to be a clear chain of command, five-star general, and work your way down to colonel and everybody knows who to salute. when you have somebody at the hhs and somebody at homeland security, and there's one person to report to all of them. are they the boss and he's the spokesperson? they'll say, wait a minute, who's idea was this? is this susan rice's idea? is it monica what's her name, is it her idea? and this is the problem. it's structural. i'm telling you, this has been the president's problem from the beginning, no chief of staff, not a clear line of authority and the people don't believe in his effectiveness. anyway, the round table is coming back and how close are the midterm elections? so close the smallest, most trivial things, like a guy using
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race, 44-44. virtually tied in kansas. and baker and coakley are dead tide there. nearly all the senate contests are all within the margin of error, and anything can move the needle on this stuff. even the weird stuff. yes, there's been weird stuff. especially this week. let's begin with that odd story in kentucky this week. this week, democratic senate candidate alison lundergan grimes battled mitch mcconnell, and they were peppered with tough questions, but it was the one that grimes didn't answer which has exploded into the headlines. >> why are you reluctant to give an answer on whether or not you voted for president obama? >> bill, there's no reluctancey. this is a matter of principle. our constitution grants here in kentucky, the constitutional right for privacy at the ballot box, for a secret ballot. >> so you won't answer that
question tonight? >> again, you have that right. senator mcconnell has that right. every kentuckian has the right for privacy at the ballot box. if i as chief election official don't stand up for that right, who in kentucky will? >> principle? in an upcoming documentary she isn't afraid to tell you how she voted in a different 2008 contest. take a look. >> tell me about the first time you voted. who did you vote for and what issues were most important to you? >> well, i turned 18 in 1996. unfortunately, it was after president clinton's election. i had hoped to be able to vote for him. i got a chance to vote for secretary clinton in 2008. >> there's the big smile, when i voted for clinton. my mom never told my dad ever that she voted for kennedy. of course it's a right. of course it's a right. there's a principle. it's a secret ballot. it's okay to say you voted for hillary, and now -- i think it
may be more political. >> i honestly don't have a clue who she voted for. i suspect that there really is a possibility that she voted -- that she might have voted for romney, or maybe she didn't vote for president at all. >> why wouldn't she vote for obama? >> i don't know. maybe she didn't like him. maybe she was out of loyalty to hillary clinton in 2008. maybe she didn't like the direction of the country. here's the problem for her. from my appreciate as -- perspective as a female, this is an opportunity as a female candidate to stick it to her opposition, to speak up and speak her mind and explain how she voted and why she voted. because in 2012, the difference between who we saw speaking at the republican national convention and who we saw speaking at the democratic
national convention, showed two fundamentally different visions of what the future of the country should look like and kentuckians would know that based on who she voted for. >> she's being hammered for not answering the question. i get why she didn't answer the question. politically, she can't. she's running in a state that absolutely hates the president. and so for her to say, i voted for barack obama is to try to snuff out her chances against mcconnell. >> would that be a headline? >> in kentucky it would be. >> for a democrat, yeah. >> she's in a close race against the senate minority leader who could become majority leader. in a close race -- [ all speak at once ] >> you have a theory here. it was strategic, she had it ready. she was going to say it on principle. did she know the documentary was coming out next week? >> maybe she forgot about it. let's say she voted for romney in 2012 or mccain in 2008, that kills her with democrats. so i'm of the thinking that she
can't answer the question because -- >> that's a fair statement, assuming rationality. [ all speak at once ] >> but the last thing anyone can -- >> not that it doesn't hurt her? >> right. >> the last thing a politician can do is look shifty. >> right. >> and for her to come, let's assume she voted for barack obama, or assume she didn't, she's running as a democrat, she needs the democratic base to turn out. she can't win without them. why she didn't say initially, listen, i did not vote for the guy who wanted to lower taxes on the rich and wanted not to give health care to half a million kentuckians, so i didn't do that. i voted for the guy who i disagreed with on other matters, but who wanted to give the middle class people a tax cut and give you health care. if she can't pull that off up against mitch mcconnell who is sort of the rocky of politics in
terms of throwing hard hits, then she's not punching at her weight level. >> let's move on. we don't know if it has an impact. we assume it hurt her, but we haven't seen the new polls. anyway, the florida tan and the florida fan. [ laughter ] >> i've known about this since i moderated his first debate eight years ago. that's his deal. in the strangest debate moment of our times, it could decide the florida governor's race. it's 44-44. anyway, there he is. the democrat charlie crist is tied with rick scott. it's a big real state. it isn't some back water. it's a big state with a lot of different people in it. 44 all. crist took the stage. scott didn't, for seven minutes. here's what happened. >> governor crist has asked to have a fan, a small fan placed under his podium. the rules of the debate that i
was shown by the scott campaign, say that there should be no fan. somehow there is a fan there, and for that reason, ladies and gentlemen, i am being told that governor scott will not join us for this debate. frank, have you ever seen anything like this? >> no, i haven't. this is remarkable over sort of a trivial issue, no matter which side you believe you're on. [ cheers and applause ] >> that has to be the most unique beginning to any debate -- >> i don't think we'll forget. >> not only in florida, but i think anywhere in the country. why did you insist on bringing a fan here when your campaign knew this would be a contentious issue? [ cheers and applause ] >> why not? you know, is there anything wrong with being comfortable? i don't think there is. >> anyway, the vote was
energized to the crist campaign. they're fund-raising off it. there's this ad, attacking scott. [ fan sounds ] >> are we really going to debate about a fan? or are we going to talk about education, and the environment and the future of our state? [ cheers and applause ] i mean, really. >> well, in its response, the republican party of florida sponsored a post on buzz feed called, crist hits the fan, including 25 pictures of crist with his fan. i think charlie is winning this, maybe because i like him personally. i don't know the issues, but it looked like he was prepared for this. he was very debonair and the other guy who didn't show up, had no idea what to say.
he was totally inarticulate. >> but of course crist looked cool, calm, and collected -- >> and tan. and a man with a plan. >> you knew he always used a fan. other reporters know that he uses it. so he's standing there, thinking, i can't believe this. i came here to debate this guy. he won't come out because of the fan. >> give me some psycho babble. why did scott make an issue of this? >> anybody got a theory? >> i think he was thinking about the ads that he could use. one of his lines -- [ all speak at once ] >> in the debate, he's sweating, he's sweating because of the 800 in x, y, z -- >> it's florida! >> that's the key thing. anybody watching at home says, i like my fan. in fact, a little ac would be nice too. >> did you see, gentlemen, the cover of "time" magazine about
the male menopause? and that's what i thought about. crist is having a hot flash. [ laughter ] >> but you didn't show the clip when scott comes -- finally comes out after seven minutes. >> so bad. >> that he then insists he didn't come out because crist wasn't there. but people said, he was there. he's been standing there for seven minutes and scott became goofy and odd, and i think that was the worst part of the night. >> remember groucho marks? are you gonna believe me or -- we all saw this. i think it helps crist, but at 44-44, something's going to happen. when we come back, here's something you don't see every day. a celebrity has an attack ad, this is west wing's martin sheen going after the other guy. this is rare. they're usually nice to their guy and they don't dump on the other guy, but he does. this is "hardball," the place for politics. s-fedex has flat rate shipping. it's called fedex one rate ®.
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and if you turn the switch the other way, it sucked. [ laughter and applause ] meanwhile, both sides in this debate are still oscillating over whether a fan was a violation. scott's campaign signed a rules document stating that candidates may not bring electronic devices, including fans. but crist campaign added with understanding that the debate host will address any temperature issues with a fan if necessary. all of which is just splitting hairs, which is also unfair to rick scott. [ laughter ] >> next up, martin sheen is known to be an activist for democratic causes. now he's gone a step further and narrated an attack ad. released on the web today, it resembles a classic film, accusing the republican of practicing the same kind of vulture captain talism that romney got accused of in 2012.
>> he made a fortune on the misfortune of the hard-working people. he got his start with mitt romney and those bane boys. after that, he headed west to the windy city. the pattern started to emerge. patterns with zeros and dollar signs, patterns where other people suffered, where other people took the hit. and rauner, he took the money and ran. he's a man who runs over people to get what he wants. now he wants something new. >> what's next? they're all going to be doing it now. finally president obama signs an executive order today to protect credit card holders from the increasing threat of identity theft. when he was signing the order, he shared a personal story, the president did about a recent experience when his own credit card was canceled due to suspected fraud. >> i went to a restaurant up in new york when i was there, and
my credit card was rejected. [ laughter ] i guess i don't use it enough. they thought there was some fraud going on. fortunately michelle had hers. [ laughter ] >> i tried to explain to the waitress, no, i really think that i've been paying my bills. even i'm affected by it. thank you very much, everybody. >> probably use that against him too. anyway, what a week for gay rights in this country and around the world. pope francis opens the roman catholic church's arms to same-sex couples. marriage equality continues its steady march against this country. and who is hosting the oscars this year? neil patrick harris. anyway, back with the round table after this. nal across tow. are all the green lights you? no. it's called grid iq. the 4:51 is leaving at 4:51. ♪ they cut the power.
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this is harris at a movie premiere with his partner and their children. the oscars had 45 million people last year, and is broadcast worldwide. and an openly gay man with a truly modern family will host it. plus a game-changer in rome this week. a preliminary report from the bishops shows the roman catholic church changing its tone on gay relationships, and also on unmarried straight couples. they said it's time to salute the morals of both. there are cases in which mutual aid to the point of sacrifice stutes a precious support in the life of the partners. jonathan, you talked about it this week about the emotions this will unleash in the country, this sense of common children of god. >> we've gone from a papacy that has made it clear that gays and lesbians are not welcome, they're evil, they are not
children of god. and from the moment francis was elevated to the papacy, the moment he became pope, he made it clear that gays and lesbians who are catholic need to be welcomes into the church. and for millions of gay and lesbian catholics around the country and around the world, it was music to their ears. because just because they're gay doesn't mean they don't have a religious or spiritual life and don't want to be a part of -- >> i want to ask this. do you think it's important that a latin male, that's very self-confident, that's who he is, is able to make a leap like this, somebody from latin america with an italian background. they were looking for a past roll leader, not a another theologian. they wanted somebody to work with people and sympathize with people. >> and we're getting it with
pope francis. again, from the very beginning whether you were gay, whether you were divorced, whether your parents weren't married, and you're a child of divorced parents, he's telling you that your church still loves you, wants you back. that's the key thing. he wants all of these people who were in the church and left, he wants them back. [ all speak at once ] >> the story's not over. >> it's like jesus from the bible. >> this came out at the beginning of the week. on thursday, they changed -- >> changed the language. >> -- the english version of this. >> can i explain this to you, my brother? it doesn't matter what the english version. it's the italian version that matters. >> it's the american catholics who are more conservative, who wanted this change. i think what we have here is the beginning of a very public fight.
>> you may want to get us involved in a fight, but the report was met with some resistance from more conservative parts of the church. some wording in the english translation was revised. quote, a section titled welcoming homosexual persons was changed in the english translation to providing for homosexual persons. a little different there. in reference to people in same-sex union, as partners, was changed to "these people." [ laughter ] >> but the italian version has not been changed and that's the official text that the reverend lombar lombardi, the vatican spokesperson. >> he's representing the pope, no doubt, but while the people who pushed for the translation changed, or as you say, the american conservative members -- >> okay, captain quibble. [ laughter ] i'm with jonathan and i think it's a wonderful thing. championing the cause for 20 years, we ought to treat each other as human beings.
stop blowing police whistles when somebody is different from us. >> it is a civil rights issue, it's a human issue. i think this pope is fantastic. i will be very happy when all of the language in whatever version we're looking at, treats everyone equally. and they are touching it with the rest of the world in terms of gay marriage. and touch it with the united states concerning the role of women in the church. >> 2,000 years of division, 2,000 years of christianity. when you look at the arab world and say how awful, that was most of -- and then when you look at it, i guess that's why some people i work with, who are jewish, like to see this. because it's a broad statement. not about orientation and identity. but about us and them. >> we are one. >> that's a bigger statement than who's in and who's out, and
what do you stand for and that's what most of european history is. >> it's about the self-perception of the church? do they see themselves as being exclusive, or holier and strict and that's okay because we're going to heaven and nobody else is. so i think the pope is expressing this really great humisthu human statistic in a wistic in - >> here's something you don't know. priest jobs are jobs. they don't just do servitude. when someone is having a marital problem with their husband beating them, or their kids are manic and they don't know how to deal with them. working and middle class women go to see the priest and sit down and say, i can't live with this guy anymore. you don't know what it's like.
he hit me the other day. priests deal with that. or my son doesn't know what he is. he's confused. we have to figure out how to deal with this. that's the guy. so this pope is that guy. >> and not to pivot too much, but one of the reasons i brought up the issue in dealing with women, one of the things that we see here as the new frontier, there have been studies that show, for example, most women will go to their religious leader in a situation of domestic violence and ask what to do. >> you know why? it's secret. >> it's secret. does the leader say leave and make sure you're safe. or do they stay? and the roll of the church for women and homosexuality in the church and whether or not they'll view all of this as being equal in god's eyes is important, and we are well on that path. >> they start talking about
punishment and you can't take communion, they create disincentives for women to do what they need to do to protect themselves. >> i don't think that's enforced, in fact. there's nobody at the altar saying, no, you don't get -- i know ex-communication means something, but you can go to communion. no one's stopping you. >> but the tone is stopping you. >> or the question, did you submit? why didn't you submit? >> i think you're on to something. because imagine if a priest said stick with joker man who is beating the hell out of you, that's frightening. because the woman would accept that religious leadership to a point. >> exactly. >> the round table will be back with the week's most interesting republican, rand paul. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >> a villain is only as good as the technology at his fingertips.
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paul the most important perp in politics. >> so, is he being too optimistic about his switch-a-roo policy sns. >> he might be, but he's the only one who's trying. i mean, i have to tell you i admired him. back in 2 2008, in the metropolitan area, i pulled up, i was stunned. there were signs for his father all over the dormitories at morgan state. so he's onto something this's appealing to african americans. he showed up in ferguson.
after michael brown, he is the only republican candidate who has gone out to fergson and spoken with blark leaders to say what is going on and what can i do to help after trayvon martin was, in my belief, murdered, it was two weeks before anyone had anything to say about his death. >> the key thing about rand paul, and michelle touched on this, he showed up. he's going to african americans and asking -- not so much asking for their votes now, but talking to them about what matters. to them. >> and listening. listening. >> and listening. african americans are impressed and appreciate someone talking to them. >> he's an everest and he's taking one or two steps up the foothills.
when he gets there and says to his own party, stop suppressing african american voters. he says we should ask for their votes. first, he should get his party to stop taking away their votes. until he does that, it's a lot of talk. i know he believes the police stuff, he's a fourth amendment conservative and there's some pats with the poplar left. >> but we are always ignored. >> here's why rand paul has an uphill battle within his party here. in nebraska, republican congressman liter ri has found himself in an unexpected close race. it's a near carbon copy of the infamous runner back in 1988. that stoked anger at the presidential caucus.
>> four murders in 1 1 days. a judge decides nikko jenkins is responsible for all of them. he is the poster child for why the good time law is a farce. brad ashford supported the good time law and still defends it, allowing criminals like nikko jenkins to be released early. the national republican congressional committee is responsible for the advertising of this. >> so why is rand paul talking about this? >> that's one candidate. >> right. >> look. you've got rand paul who is saying things as a republican that no republican is saying. so let's give him credit for that. the second thing about the quote\you ran from rand paul, i think he's right.
if his party were to get behind him and stop doing ads like that and changing the way they're going about things from voter suppression laws to a whole lot of other things, the republican party could get -- but not in one election cycle. >> maybe if you all became republicans. you'd vote. anyway, thank you. [ laughter ] >> when we return, let me finish with my view about the historic challenge of changing any electorate to the other side. you're watching "hardball," a place for politics. you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates.
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let me ficfinish with the f with how hard it is to change historic party allegiance. back in the 1950s, a third of the african american voters remained with the party of lincoln. they held high the banner of union against southern su session. president eisenhower won two out of every three votes. then came the 1960 s. the civil rights record of john f. kennedy and lyndon johnson reduced the vote to roughly 10 prnt. now, rand paul of kentucky is talking about attracting african american voterins back to his party. it's a good thing to do, but it will not happen easily or quickly.