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your partner. thanks to everyone who responded. >> we appreciate it today. if you're in any of those storm-ridden areas, certainly be careful. you're in our thoughts and prayers. >> "fox & friends" starts right now. >> bye. good morning. it's tuesday, aprilç 29. aoeup elisabeth hasselbeck. we start with a fox news alert. a second wave of deadly tornadoes ripping through the south. >> the worst could be yet to come. maria molina is live from mississippi. >> terrible. meanwhile secretary of state john kerry making outrageous comments about one of our biggest allies. israel. [inaudible]ç -- appartite state. >> he said apartheid state. should john kerry resign? we're going to report. you decide. >> one u.s. senator is calling for an end. this morning the nba will decide what they are going to do with clippers owner donald sterling. actually this afternoon. the boycott has begun. is that right or wrong? mornings, by the way, according to everyone i asked, including steve and elisabeth, are better with friends. >> hi. this is jimmie j.j. walker. let the good times roll, brother, on "fox & friends." >> the show is dynamite. >> by the way he says he only said it one time in the show and it ends up being his catch phrase. >>ç dynamite! >> later on good times they would turn on each other. they don't really like each other? >> i'm not familiar with that part of the story. thank you for joining us today. we've got a very, very busy day. it's just like monday all over again because of the weather. >> thanks for being with us this morning. an extreme weather alert. a second wave of killer storms taking aim in the south. >> we've got to get out! >> let's go! >> at least 11 deaths reported across !51ñ mississippi, tennessee this morning. homes ripped to shreds leaving countless people homeless. the account of the devastation is staggering. >> maria molina is live on the ground in tupelo, mississippi. maria, tell us what you see there. >> reporter: good to hear from you. 11 people were killed overnight in alabama, tennessee and mississippi. that brings the total from the past two days of this multiday severe weather outbreak to 28. 28 people killed by these killer storms. here in tupelo, the damage is extensive. as you can see behind me, what used to be a gas station almost unrecognizable. just a pile of rubble and twisted metal. across tupelo we've seen car windows smashed, a lot of power lines down. we've also seen roofs torn off buildings. when weç arrived last night at about 11 p.m. we could smell the strong smell of a gas leak. we spoke to the mayor about that. take a listen. >> the gas lines are the major concern of the storm damage that has released natural gas lines through the neighborhood. crews have been working nonstop all night long. they have made progress. i don't know that they're 100% completed but they're making progress. >> the governor of mississippi, phil bryant, arrives at 9 a*plt to survey the damage. otherç areas hit hard across mississippi is louisville, mississippi. look at the incredible video storm chasers captured of that tornado. >> a big tornado! right there. there it is! >> athens, alabama, roofs torn off buildings there. today the storm system continues to move eastward and we have a risk for severe weather stretching across parts of the southeast up into the midwest. this is a very widespread area and the national weather service issuing a moderate risk again today. we could see more tornadoes that stay on the ground for a longer paoefrd -- period of time.ç violent storms right here in mississippi and alabama for the second day in a row here. this is the third day of our multiday severe weather outbreak. please stay safe out there. let's head over to you in new york. >> maria molina live in tupelo, mississippi, where she reported 11 killed overnight in twisters. >> we continue to focus on what's happening with the weather, and that's the continuing story. we're going to have a next chapter in the saga revolving around the los angeles clippers and their owner and the 81-year-old's controversial comments that leads one to believe that he has a problem with theç african-american race. we also know as we mentioned yesterday, not only is there this one-hour tape out there, there could be a hundred separate tapes of donald sterling, the owner of the clippers, talk nag way which will make him look according to reports even worse than the tapes released already by tmz sports. today at 2:00 eastern time it will be announced. what shall happen to the owner of the clippers after those remarks. people all across the country are waiting. and afterwards they'll take action, whether it's the players deciding not to play or sponsors deciding not to take part. whether it's the fans deciding to stay home. >> the clippers have 57 wins. >> most successful season. >> ever, going into the playoffs with a tie right now, set to play again. decisionç about to made. who is the enemy? the racist comments by their owner as proven by the tapes allegedly out there. everyone's sponsors are backing out. state farm, virgin america said they are supporting the team but not. car max out, doesn't align with their values in terms of what they heard. this is what metaworld peace had to say. >> you can go into somebody's pockets, you can do all those types of things but in reality do those things hurt? hate versus hate, did it ever help in america? no. iç say he needs to go get help. let him be, go get help and become unracist. >> he needs help according to the former ron artest known as metta world peace. yesterday we were talking about if it is his voice on those tapes he would be in trouble. apparently attorneys for the nba went over to the girlfriend's attorney's office yesterday, listened to the 15 minutes that have been released so far out of that first hour and said pretty much, yes, that's him. however, the big question is how hard are they going to come down on him? mark cuban, who knows a thing or two about owning a team, said this. >> there's no excuse for anybody to support racism. there is no place for it in our league. but, you know, it's a very, very, very slippery slope. you know, ifç it's about racism and we're ready to kick people out of the league, okay. then what about homophobia? what about somebody who doesn't like a particular religion? what about somebody who's antisemitic. >> let us know what you think about that. is it a slippery slope or a path to more acceptance? >> speaking of a slippery slope our secretary of disaster -- i mean secretary of state, john kerry, really angered a lot of people when he said behind closed doors to a room fullç of influential world leaders, he said israel is at risk of becoming an apartheid state. we've got a little clip of it. it's kind of hard to hear but that's what he said. listen. >> i heard [inaudible] apartheid states [inaudible] a state that destroys -- >> he said those remarks and it began to resonate written by the press in israel. now the word has gotten out. you'll hear his reaction. when there was backlash he pointed to the partisan reaction to his comments. how do you explain this tweet from barbara boxer, who is a democrat? israel is the only democracy in the middle east and anyç linkage between israel and apartheid is nonsensical and ridiculous. >> this backlash is bipartisan. aligning with the time when they spent the weekend and a day remembering the holocaust, it seemed to jab a knife into the heart of those in israel. this is rush limbaugh. >> who again are the anti seplites? not these guys. these are the tolerant oées, the democrats, john kerry, the leftists. a dangerously absurd thing to be saying. the people that think something like that is going to inspire and fuel and give impetus to? you're talking about painting a target. supposedly israel is our ally. it doesn't look like that from sitting here anymore. it certainly doesn't look like israel is our ally with this bunch. >> let's get this straight. there would be a piece process continuing if hamas and the palestinian authority didn't combine, and hamas's sole reason for existence is to wipe out israel. they're not talking about recognizing that country. not one person would be criticizing this administration, i don't think, in a time in the middle east where egypt is about to explode again, syria hasç 170,000 dead. there was no call to jam down the throats of both sides this peace agreement that he dreamed up. >> john kerry stepped in, if he had a do-over he probably wouldn't say it again because barack obama himself in the past has said apart not apply to israel. >> he did in 2008, i believe. >> ten minutes after the top of the hour. we've got a busy day news wise as well. exhibit a. >> a lot going on. anyone here afraid to fly? if you are, you may not want to watch this story. new overnight, could you imagine looking out your rá yeah, some sparks flying and some flames from this small plane that had just taken off from an airport in australia with 97 people on board. airport officials say it was an engine fire that started shortly after takeoff. the pilot immediately turned that plane around and was able to land it safely. fortunately no one was hurt. the cause of that fire under investigation. the search is on for a father and his two young children who are missing in a national park, and the search is growing more desperate by the hour. j.r. kimbler son -- and his son and daughter went missing while they were on a hike. they were last heard from on saturday. kimbler texted a friend the main concern is they do not have food or water. wishing them the best. >> the terror mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks on the world trade center also set his sights on london. fattad who is testifying in another trial said khalid sheikh muhammad pulled out an almanac and krofd out -- crossed out the twin towersç and started looking for another target. >> there is a blimp that broke free during a hockey tournament in new brunswick, canada. pilots flying in the area were warned to keep an eye out for it as it can reach about 5,000 feet. now authorities say they have lost track of that blimp. those are your headlines. >> it's hard to miss. >> it's a blimp. >> we have over two and a half hours left to go. straight ahead, media matters, that group has been trying to take down fox news. i don't think it's been successful. it has always been for big labor so why is it against their own workers joining a union? 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>> media matters. they're standing up for workers' rights. i don't know if they're going to do that in the future but now they are. >> they are standing up for workers rights by saying we don't want to unionize this place. when you look at media matters, considering all the money they have gotten, for instance from seiu, in 2012 they took $100,000 from them.ç in 2009 they took $50,000 for a total of $150,000 we know of. they're such big supporters of them. look at other unions that have sent money media matters way, $140,000 from that big union, then $35,000 and $400,000 from the teachers union, the n.e.a. on paper they look very pro-union. yet, their chance to unionize, no. >> they have been sticking up for the unions. they have been attacking fox news and any other outlet they consider conservative. they have been going after anybody fighting for workers' rights. >> whenever we do a segment here on fox news that they have a problem with, they oftentimes distort things and take sound bites out of context. that's just how they operate. you know, curiously, they haven't done anythingç about how sharyl atkisson, how she claims media matters helped her produce stories for cbs. yet, they are a partisan attack dog. >> they are did he definitely a- they are definitely a partisan attack dog except when it comes to their own employees. let's congratulate them for doing the right thing this time. they are standing up for their own workers' rights and their own organization. >> to show howç seriously they don't want a union in their shop, they hired a big powerful attorney firm to make sure it doesn't happen. his book is number four on the "new york times" bestseller list. it is called "big tent." mallory factor, thank you. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. don't even think about having a fiesta. one college banning them because fiestas are racist. have the p.c. police gone too far? 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>> thanks, brian. the p.c. police are at it again. a party benefitting research had to be canceled because one student found the fiesta theme offensive saying, quote, as a mexican born first generation woman of color it was sadly unsurprising that this party was seen as a casual venture for such privileged institutions such as darthmouth. there are various ideologies regarding cinco demayo events. end of quote. our next guest wrote a response. the editor and chief of darthmouth review, thanks for being with us, nick. important to write your piece? >> the mood on campus was such that a lot of frustration, even anger over the way in which this was handled. a lot of comments on the initial report about the way in which this was handled were negative and very critical the way the administration pursued this. so i felt the need as someone at the review to write a more cohesive response. >> are you saying the student body perceived this as what? what is the general feeling on campus? >> theç general sense from my standpoint was one of outrage. people were horrified that the reactions from the administration was such that the sensitivity of one group was able to outweigh what was a charitable event put on by the vast majority of the student body. most people on the campus, as far as i can tell, are very much in agreement with the opinions we express in the paper. >> the student who put forward the complaint said this was for business. you say it was for charity? >> it most certainly was. this is the third year in a row that the fraternity and sore -- sorryty put this on together. this is a charitable opportunity which has gone awry. >> what is your fear with this move? >> our concern is that the rule of law on darthmouth campus seems toç be eroding slowly. it seems the group with the ripest sense of self-esteem gets a free pass when it comes to these issues on campus. there is no longer a sense of bringing people to the table, discussing problems. it is always if you're offended, if you're the most sensitive, you prevail. there is a lot of frustration sensing from that climate and cultural drift in weeks and months. >> have you spoken with hernandez? >> i have not personally no. >> do you hope to? is that on your list, the two of you get together? >> it is.ç darthmouth emphasizes dialogue and discussion and it would great for everyone to have an open discussion about this rather than an orwellian conversation. that conversation could happen, is something we're hoping to have happen and something i hope my article inspires. >> great. something i love about your generation. thanks for being with us today on "fox & friends." keep us posted on that. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> we'll hope for the best there. students at rutgers university determined to stop condoleezza rice from speaking at their graduation. imagine waking up in the middle of the night to a total stranger screaming at your baby. another baby monitor hacked. how does that keepç happening? 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we're seeing such heartbreak and devastation. >> reporter:ç absolutely, heartbreak and devastation and now the death toll rising to a total of 28 people killed by a multiday severe weather outbreak. when we arrived here in tupelo, mississippi, last night we could smell the strong smell of a gas leak as well. we spoke to the mayor about 30 minutes ago about that. he said crews have been working all night and making progress on repairing those lines. they have a very difficult task ahead of them due to how extensive the damage is here. behind me you can see what used to be a gas station reduced to a pile of twisted metal and rubble. across the city of tupelo we've also seen carç windows shattered, cars tossed, roofs blown off buildings and power lines down. one survivor in tupelo who was driving to work when the tornado hit described how powerful the wind was. take a listen. >> everything was flying. the roofs, metal, woods, everything was like wide. >> reporter: people are starting to dig through the rubble in tupelo that was once their home. in pearl, mississippi, another hard-hit area by these storms, mobile homes were tossed and destroyed. in kimberly, alabama, a firehouse was blown apart by strong winds. the storm system is a very slow mover. we expect more strong storms today stretching from parts of mississippi includingç right here in tupelo, mississippi, and that stretches farther north into the midwest. the storm prediction center issued a moderate risk. this is an issue for the third day in a row from the storm system that includes parts of mississippi and alabama. those are areas that could see some of those long track tornadoes, meaning tornadoes that stay on the ground for a long period of time. we have all the conditions ripe for severe weather. very humid air mass here. we have very warm temperatures ahead of the storm and a lot of wind sheer. that means these thunderstorms that fire up later this afternoon into this evening could start to rotate and unfortunately produce mosu tornadoes. again, anywhere from parts of the southeast up into the midwest. please when the warnings get issued, seek shelter. >> do that fast. maria molina live in tupelo, mississippi. they have had days advance notice. keep in mind, they knew this was going to be moving through that area last night and yet 11 people were in the wrong place unfortunately when the tornadoes came through their areas last night. it looks like it could be another rough one today. like maria says, keep an eye on your phone because you can get emergency alerts on your phone. or stay near your television. >> heather nauert is standing right by the couch with other news. >> the feds are starting to look for new contractors to run obamacare's website. could a small business run healthcare.gov better than a big government contractor? the administration begins aç wide-ranging search for companies to run the on-line exchange program. the feds say they are particularly interested in hiring small businesses owned by women or disabled veterans. of course this would be a stark contrast to c.g.i. federal, that's the company blamed for the botched obamacare rollout. a new contractor would take over when the current contract expires next year. we'll keep you posted. dozens of students at rutgers university occupy the president's office and are protesting the school's decision to invite condoleezza rice to speak at graduation.ç rutgers is paying her $35,000 for the appearance but some say they are outraged because of her role in the iraq war. so far the university says rice is still invited. you may remember this. two years ago the school paid $32,000 for snooki to offer students these choice words: study hard but party harder. a crazy carjacker caught on video trying to break into a new york city cab as it speeds down the highway. the man clinging on for dear life. finally at a red light he hopped off where he stole another car. the suspect has since been arrested. nice police work there. hackers -- here's a scary story every new parent wants to hear. hackers can pretty much hear and see just about everything you do by hacking into your child's babyç monitor. this happened to an ohio family. they say they heard the voice of a screaming man who woke them up in the middle of the night. they heard this on the baby monitor that was controlled through their stpafr. -- through their smart phone. >> i heard a voice start skraoepg -- screaming at my daughter. wake up, baby, wake up baby. just screaming at her. >> you kind of do feel violated in a way. >> when the man started screaming swear words, the manç unplugged the monitor. again, story every new parent wants to hear because video baby monitors that are remotely controlled are so popular right now. talking about popular, let's go to brian. >> thank you very much, heather. the exact opposite thing was in the prompter. let me tell you what's going on in sports. with donald sterling dominating the nba headlines it is easy to forget we're in the middle of the playoffs and a great first round. atlanta hawks squared off against indiana pacers. hawks win 107-97. atlanta on the cusp, up three games to 2. dallas mavericks taking on the spurs. in the spurs, tony parkers, game winning 3. spurs tie up that three games a piece.ç miami heat four games to none. wouldn't have happened if michael jordan played instead of owned. lebron james 31 points in the victory. what's the quickest tapout you've seen in the m.m.a.? try this. it's over. right before it began, the crowd understandablyç upset. callister said he tapped out, the quickest in history. two softball players at florida southern college helped an opposing player around the bases after she tripped and blew out her knee. the injured player's home run may not have counted if she did not round the bases. luckily good sportsmanship prevailed. elisabeth is against this. she said that is not the way you do things in sports. on the radio between nine and noon, jennifer griffin, all live nine to noon on fox news radio. you've never done that in softball? >> i needed to be carried around. i needed all the help i could get. >> you were carrying the team. 20 minutes before the top of theç hour. going, going, gone. a ceiling collapses inside of a mall. look at that. luckily nobody was below. how does that happen? we're going to tell what you we know. >> our next guest says president obama abandoned the middle class. can the republican party bring them back? 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[ male announcer ] troubleshoot, manage appointments, and bill pay from your phone. introducing the xfinity my account app. it's the world. you go to israel, the blacks are treated like dogs. >> do you have to treat them like that too? >> the white jews, there's white jews and blacks. do you understand? >> are the white jews less than the white jews? >> 150%. >> what are your rights when it comes to something you say in private as that was? here to weigh in, fox news legal senior judicial analyst andrew napolitano. judge, what do you think? >> it is a very complex case. we start with a couple of basics. this was recorded in his home, in theç privacy of his own home. this was done in california. california requires bilateral consent. not only the person recording, but the person speaking. it was an illegal recording, couldn't be used in a court of law against him. that is one side of this. the other side of this is when he bought the l.a. clippers he signed the standard nba owners agreement which requires that he comport his private behavior consistent with the best interest of the team and the nba. so this behavior, although it's extremely private and although the recording was illegally done, is hardly in the best interest of the nba or the clippers. and so he can be punished for it in a way that the government couldn't punish us, the nba can punish him. i think the punishment will be severe because the outcry has been severe. >> how about how they got the tapes? does that matter? if he doesn't know he wasç taped, would that matter? >> that would matter in a court of law if these tapes would become part of litigation. if he were to sue the person who taped him, whoever it was, i don't think that matters to the nba. the nba's agreement is secret. i tried to see it. they won't let me. but i have a general idea of what's on it from seeing similar agreements with other professional entities that don't keep them secret. >> more developing on that. the supreme court set to side on whether or not a cell phone can be takenç upon stopping somebody. >> searching without a warrant. >> whenever i'm with brian i say brian keep your cell phone with you and the battery with you because i want president obama and the n.s.a. to hear everything we have to say. kidding about that. these guys were drug dealers and the police took their cell phones and accessed them, got in, got the pin number or the password and extracted all kinds of information. on the basis of that information prosecuted them for another charge for which they were arrested. the other charge is serious. murder. convicted of murder. now the supreme court has to decide, when the police stop you for jaywalking or bank robbery and you have a cell phone on you can they take it without a warrant? you've got to explain to a judge why you think there is evidence of a crime in there. you can't go on a fishing expedition. >> what if it is time sensitive? >> the police would know if it's time sensitive because here they were search for whatever they managed to find. >> thanks, judge. still ahead, secretary of state john kerry warning israel that they could become an apartheid state. his comments are spas[ing bipartisan outrage. should he resign? we report. we report. you decide. i ys say be thman with the plan but with less ergy, moodiness, i had to do something. i saw mdoctor. a blood test showed it was low testosterone, not age. we talked about axiron the onlynderarm low t treaent that can restore t vels to normal in about two weeks in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 or men with prostate or breast cancer. women, especlly those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoidt where axirons applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or incased acne in women may occur. report these symptoms to your doctor. tell your doctorbout all medical conditions and medications. serious side effects could include increased sk of prostate cancer, worsening prostate symptoms, decreased sperm count, ankle, feet or body swelling, enlarged or painful breasts, problems breathing while sleeping and blood clots in the legs. common side effects include skin redness or irritation where applied, increased red blood cell count, common side effects include skin redness headache, diarrhea, vomiting, and increase in psa. ask your doctor about axiron. he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. when sales rep steve hatfield books at laquinta.com, so he knows exactly when he can prep for his presentation. and when steve is perfectly prepped, ya know what he brings? 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this is so heart breaking. >> it is so heart break. the sun is starting to rise and we're starting to gets some of the first glimpse of the damage here. it's so extensive and heart break. storm chasers captured the tornado on video and had a very close call with it. >> oh, god. please, make it pass. please, make it pass. >> that tornado hit here in tupelo leaving behind extensive damage as you can see. what used to be a gas station reduce to a pile of rubble and twisted metal. we have seen flipped cars, buildings severely damaged, if not completely destroyed. and there are survivors who were work at the time that the tornado hit and had the roof blown off their building. >> ripped the roof off the buildings over there. we all jumped in the pit. >> glass flying all around in the pit. >> to see trees twisted like it is now, i've never seen anything like that. >> the governor of mississippi is visiting the area today. other areas hit athens, alabama of the another hard hit state. very severe damage there with homes torn apart. the threat today including yet again alabama and mississippi. the storm prediction center issued a moderate risk there, meaning we could see more of at least violent storms that could produce tornadoes that stay on the ground and cause this teach damage. there is a very widespread area that could see these strong to severe storms today stretching from parts of southeast up into the midwest. have a we to get those warnings today. a tornado warning means there could be a tornado on the ground. and when those are issued, that's when you need to seek shelter. >> thank you very much. leetle talk about the storm in the nba. sounds like later today in a press conference here in new york city, the nba is going to say what they want to do to donald sterling. apparently yesterday a couple of nba attorneys did authenticate it is his voice on the 15-minutes of the tape that has been released. so all across america, people are talk about is that really -- is that something i should lose a team for? should he be fined? what are they going to do? >> meta world peace said the guy has a problem, but he needs help. watch. >> i mean, you can go in somebody's pockets. you can do all those teach things, but? reality, do those things help? hate versus hate doesn't help. i say he foods to get help. let him get help and become unracist. >> when he was ron artest, he had that problem and we discussed it live, running into the stands, protecting and beating up on a few fans. he's calmed down a bit. on top of that, one of the things he he won a world kilpatrick with the lakers, he thanked the psychiatrist. sponsors around waiting, car max, mercedes benz have said we're out as long as he is big. >> the players themselves, jerseys inside out as we saw. the coach rivers is saying, he's not sure if he's coming back. >> he wouldn't even take a call from donald sterling yesterday. >> he said no, we're going to let the players do their thing. many wondering if he will lose the team. will sterling maintain ownership? mark cuben said this could be a slippery slope. >> there is no excuse for anybody to support racism, there is no place for it in our league. but it's a very, very, very slimmery slope. if it's about racism and we're ready to kick people out of the league, okay, then what about homophobia? what about somebody who doesn't like a particular religion? what about somebody who is anti-semitic? >> mark jackson, the coach of the warriors, says he thinks fans should stay home. maybe he's looking out for his warriors. >> rivers says north texas we need your sore. >> perhaps wear your jersey inside out if you support that. >> meanwhile, he didn't know that he would be widely quoted, but he is our secretary of state. he was at an event behind closed doors with a bunch of world leaders and he used apartheid state, that expression, to describe israel and now the world is horrified fort most part action excepts john kerry who said this. >> when people think of apartheid, they think of apartheid, black versus white thing. he's suggesting unless they come up with a peace agreements between israel and the palestinians, they'll have that problem. there has been an outpouring of anger toward these stupid comments that mr. kerry made. >> eric cantor said that the word routinely being dismissed as owe penssive and inaccurate -- offensive and inaccurate. senator year said we can't have politics rage over this. senator boxer tweeted this. israel is the only democracy in the middle east and any linkage between israel and apartheid is nonsensical and ridiculous. >> he tried to claire guy when he realized there was a fire storm of the did he it in way which i found odd. he lashed out against partisan political attacks again him, but acknowledged his comments last week to a closed international forum could have been misinterpreted. if that was my apology, my mom would say try again. >> if he's talk about partisan attack, clearly, to barbara boxer. >> right. clearly conservative. >> or maybe thele fact that a number of conservatives said those kind of comments, he's got to go. >> sad lyrics it is my belief that secretary kerry has proven himself unsuitable for the position he holds and therefore, before any further harm is done to our national security interest and to our critical aligns with the nation of israel, that john kerry should offer president obama his resignation and the president should accept it. >> i think is a resigning type statement. this is an injury to an ally that will echo because it will be repeated and people will say, i'm not saying this. it's the secretary of state of the united states. it is untrue. it's truly something that the man at the very least, an immediate apology. >> yeah. he needs to go back to saying brilliant things that climate change is causing problems. >> for the most part, it's been relatively quiet in the area. >> let us know what you think about those comments and is it enough to cause secretary year to resign? >> ten minutes after the hour, and heather joins us for overnight developments. >> good morning. could you imagine this? look out your airplane window and then seeing fire spewing from the engine? look at this. steve, you're right. that's not good. that plane had taken off from the airport in australia with 97 people on board. it start in the engine shortly after takeoff. the file immediately turned that plane around and land safely. no one was hurt. but the cause of that fire is under investigation. the search for a father and his two young missing children in a 27,000 aircraft national park is now growing more desperate. he and his ten-year-old son and six-year-old daughter, you can see them there, went missing in a south carolina park just days ago while they were on a hike east of columbia. they were last heard from on saturday when he texted a friend saying they were lost. the main concern from rescuers now is that he and his children don't have any food or water. the terrain they're searching is described as difficult, with a loft downed trees and swampy water. wishing them the very best. we'll keep you posted. this swimmer gets an escort from dolphins. adam walker was a record-break open water swim, in the middle of a swim often the coast new zealand when a pod of dolphins appeared. ten joined him for an hour of his it's a-hour journey. some people thought that the dolphins were scaring off a shark. he said his swimming with the dolphins was a dream come view for him. those are your headlines: what would you rather have, a dolphin or mermaid? 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let's ask the former deputies assistance u.s. attorney general under george w. bush, john yu, he just wrote a book the causes of war called "points of adark." your response to david gregory's question which assumes that the last eight -- your eight years were responsible for this. >> that's a terrible mistake. it's like saying firefighters are responsible for fire or during the cold war, it was our faults and not the soviets' faults. if you look at 9-11, the worst thing that could have happened for us and the best thing for slamsic extremists is that they controlled afghanistan. in the bush administration, we put an end to that. we overthrough the taliban regime and started on a campaign to try the al-qaeda terrorist network. i worry this administration has let its foot off the gas pedal in the war on terrorism and actually allowing al-qaeda to rebound. >> so think about this, somalia, after that tragedy, nothing. after beirut, we've done nothing. after the cole, we did nothing. we fine low take action and it was a question, not a statement, butylene people outs there agree with it. now the bush administration's war morning could bring us to a caused this. no one even has a chance to look -- or google it, you would find out that's not the case. >> before 9-11, there were no aggressive american policies, as you pointed out, responding to all these terrorist attacks. we took a hit, we took a hit, we took a hit. we didn't respond forcefully. and what happened? we were attacked on 9-11 just down the island from here. the us us didn't cause those attacks. those happened despite american policy. i think now as pointed out, what's going on is that we are withdrawing from iraq and afghanistanment we're allowing extremists to get back into power and restore the networks we spent so much time destroying. >> now the president says i'd rather hit isn'ts and doubles then go out and try for a homerun and make a mistake -- and i'm para phrasing. >> i'm worried putin and next in crimea invading ukraine, with place like china declaring air defense soon which include parts of japan, that this president, he may think he's hitting singles and doubles, but i worry he's watching called third strikes go by. >> is there a manhood problem as this president is perceived in the middle east? >> i don't know if it's manhood, but this president is turning out to pursue a very passive policy. what worries me is that american withdrawal from the world is going to have terrible costs on the world and on the united states. and that this effort to pull the united states back from its role as securing regional and international security is going to harm the world that the united states built for the last 650 -- 60 years. thanks so much. >> thanks. ten minutes before the bottom of the hour. coming up, she forgot she had a pocketknife in her purse when she witness to school. now she's expelled, zero tolerance gone too far? 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what should parents be doing? what don't they understand and get? here with some insight is author dana boyd. thank you for joining us today. a lot of parents, when you see at least numbers, 94% of the teens are on facebook. 26% are on twitter. 11% of them are on instagram. so when you know that the vast majority of them are on-line, parents think, i got to northern this. i -- monitor this. you say? >> i say back off and the reason i say become off is that what young people are trying to find is a police of their own. over 30 years, we've done tremendous disservice to young people's freedom. today's teen-agers have no right to roam of the the whole culture of get on your bike and be home by dark is gone. >> you're not just saying there, you spent years, about eight years studying teen-agers spending time with them. but i guess the concern as a mom, i want to let my kid go anywhere anymore, it's not that world. why wouldn't i check in and monitor their freedom? i don't see it as though i'm infringing on their personal space. i need to know they're safe. >> parts of it is you want to help your child transition to adulthood and that can be rocky. so what that process looks like is to slowly give them freedom and back off when they vital new some particular wait a minute -- way. it's a process. with colleges, jobs, people are look at their behavior on-line. what do you say? >> that's true. part of it is helping your child think creditly about what they're going to encounters. in the work force, at college, et cetera. but let them be making the decisions. that's part of it. they need to learn to make decision because whether they're out of your household, they don't have you to turn to. >> so don't punish them or critique them, understand what's going on? >> it's a process. sometimes you'll is to critique and punish. that's so the overbearing approach to all of it, then you don't have them learning what they have to to become an independence adult. >> there was an article that we discussed and found yesterday saying that teens can't decipher between reality and what's going on on-line. you say? >> i find that so confusion. the best i could find is that the folks were look at cyber bullying. young people don't distinguish between siren bullying and bullying. they think of bullying wholisticcally, whether it's their friends or on-line. i think it's a serious issue. i think we need to concern ourselves with it. but it doesn't mean they can't tell virtual reality from reality. >> i go by you are what you tweet. that's when i say. thank you. >> thank you. coming up, hello, texas. governor rick perry's pitch to come to the lone star state is work with a major auto company of the he's going to tell you. and we're going to tell you who is headed south. they shake pom poms and dance to music all to support a team. should cheerleading be a sport? 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"action!" ♪ fueling the american spirit. ♪ can you hear it? ♪ no matter when, ♪ no matter where, ♪ marathon will take you there. ♪ if you're just wake up, we've got another extreme weather alert. as the sun comes up across the southeast, we're seeing all devastation left behind last night by dozens of tornadoes across our south land. >> that's right. at least 11 people dead in three states. alabama, mississippi, and tennessee. >> maria molina knows that very well. she's on the ground in tupelo, mississippi. i see you moved your location slightly. what are you seeing? >> the damage here is so extensive, very severe. behind me we have what appears to have been a strip mall. the roof has been blown off. is there is a lot of debris inside what's left of that structure. we've also seen piece of furniture. there is a couch that's just outs in the parking lot. there is pieces of debris that's let'serring the roadways and also the parking lot. power lines, some of them are down and the ones not here in the area that we're standing in are just dangling. we've also seen car windshields that have been shattered and also basically just a lot of damage out here. some buildings are unrecognizable. they're just a pile debris. they have allowed traffic to allow people to get to where they need to go. something lard to convey through video or images is the smell of gas over the past 30 minutes, it has increased in intensity here in tupelo, mississippi. we did smell it last night when we arrived and did speak to the mayor about that. take a listen. >> the gas lines are the major concern of the storm damage. atmos energy through some of the neighborhoods, those crews have been working nonstop all night long. they've made progress. i don't know that they're 100% completed. but they're making progress. >> and tupelo, mississippi is just one area hit hard by the severe weather yesterday and in the overnight hours. in pearl, mississippi, we've also seen video of mobile homes that were destroyed and severely damaged out there. we have reports as well of severe damage in parts of tennessee and also across alabama. the storm system continues on the move and the storm proceed diction center has issued a moderate risk yet. we've had that already for three days in a row, including parts of mississippi, kellogg right here if -- including here in tupelo and parts of alabama. preparing into the midwest. >> this has been a rotten week weather wise. peculiar i can't, thank you very much. >> let's talk business now and let's talk interstate business. score another one for governor perry. >> no kidding. he's been on this program. he was with us about a year ago talking about how he's encouraging businesses to head down to texas. texas is open for business. you know who got the message? toyota. for 50 years they have had their national headquarters in torrence, california. they've just announced that they're moving to plano, texas, which i have been shopping in plano in the last couple of months. it's a great -- my daughter lives in the dallas area -- it's a great town. they're going to move their 4,000 employees and a lot of people are going, okay. what took you so long? >> right. toyota financial also moving that arm to the area as well. just north of dallas. as well, since july of 2012, 60 companies moved to texas. rick perry talked with us about why this is so important to companies and why they are coming to texas. >> the fact is there is economic policies in those states that are -- this is two things. it's about going out and recruiting businesses, telling the great story about texas, our light tax burden, regulatory climate fair and predictable. legal climate that doesn't allow for oversuing, a very skilled work force. those are the four things that businessmen and women really look for. >> it's about tax and also a windy day, i digress. toyota has been in los angeles area since 1957. and again, it was a big revenue stream for them. california, which needs that tax revenue, keeps upping taxes. they don't get it. sooner or later, successful companies will decide, we're being extorted. we're going do leavement what are they going to do? continue to up taxes? more companies are going to leave. >> right. >> they hit texas where it's friendly for them and all the 4,000 employees and jobs that will be work there. >> that high speed rail thing is not going to save the state of california. and the message is texas is open for business and now once upon a teen-ager the big three used to be located in california. nissan moved to tennessee. we got other break news with heather. >> good morning. we have serious break news coming out of georgia this morning. as workers were showing up at what appears to have been a fed-ex ground facility in georgia, there are reports of a shooting in this area in kennesaw, georgia. we're hearing at least six people have been hurt. officials are saying that the injuries so far range from minor to serious and that shooter, as we understand, is still on the loose. dozens of cops and emergency workers are on the scene right now. fed-ex just releasing this statement saying, quote, fed-ex is aware of the situation. our primary concern is the safety and walt our team members, first responders and others affected. we will keep you updated on there story as it develops throughout the morning coming out of georgia a short while ago. in north texas the woman known as mama damato has been laid to rest. the mother of form new york senator and fox news contributor damato campaigned for her son of the he credits her with having helped him win the 1980 election. listen to this. >> she was the heart and soul of our family like many mothers. she was special. she challenged us. she was there for us. she sacrificed and she had -- god gave her a great life. >> she was a force in her own right. i have nothing but wonderful memories of her. my mom is 98. they became great friends and had this bond of two wonderful mothers whose sons had gotten involved in trying to help make people's lives better. >> a lovely tribute to her. she was 99 years old. what a life. let's go out to the midwest now where a minnesota high school students has now been expelled from school for having a pocket knife in her purse. 17-year-old alyssa says it was a mistake and that she's really a good girl. school officials say there is zero tolerance policy left them no choice but to kick her out of school for a year. a she says an administrator found the knife during a random drug search. a dog had mistaken her perfume for something more dangerous. what dow think of that? they shake their pom poms and dance to music to support a team. should cheerleading be a sport? ♪ ♪ >> cute. new york educators say yes, it should be a sport. the board of regents is expected to vote today. 34 states and the district of columbia already consider it a sport. the move would require coaches to be properly trained and for schools to follow common safety standards. seems like a good idea. that stuff is tough. >> they changed from gymnastics, from cheering to a few moves, maybe pyramid, to wild tricks and stunts. it's half gymnastics, half cheerleading. most schools are cut out gymnastics. >> interesting. brian an advocate. >> what do you think? is cheerleading a sport? e-mail us. our floor director says no, it is not a sport. what? do you know how heavy those pom poms are? e-mail us, we're going to include your comments. >> in golf, no defense. >> not a sport. >> he has a consistents argument there. >> if john will stop heckling, 20 minutes before the top of the hour. >> look for a job? 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laura ingraham weighs in on this coming up. then he was so excited to receive his diploma, but there college grad fell a little short. >> what happened next? we'll play the rest of the tape straight ahead on this fox friends -- "fox & friends". good morning. it's tuesday, april 29. i'm steve doocyment we start with a fox news alerts. a second wave of deadly tornadoes slamming the south. >> get out. let's go! >> a new warning this morning. this may be just the beginning. maria molina is live from tupelo, mississippi. outrage after secretary of state john kerry's slur about one of our biggest allies. the country of israel. should john kerry resign? laura ingraham weighs in on that. and it's one of the most iconic rides in america, but if liberal mayor of our city bill de blasio gets his way, these beautiful horse and carriages will be replaced by a electric cars. brian and elisabeth, where have you been? we're kick off the third hour right now on "fox & friends". hello,. >> thank you very much. >> how are you? >> live from new york city, these are the iconic horse-drawn carriages. believe it or not, the mayor of new york city, bill deblass oh, wants do get rid of at least and replace them with electric cars. it's true. where have you been? >> in new york city, we had to go around the block. the left doesn't help. a loft people were staring at us. >> i bet. >> single file. this is one of the big stories in america today. if they could strong arm horses out of central park, what's next? they could stop lunch. >> i know. we're going to larry from paul and steve. they've been driving at least carriages for years, coming up in a bit. but first, brian, come on did you know. >> how about let the girl? >> you're in her way. >> i'm just trying out different types of transportation today. >> thank you. >> just like in the little orange car, go straight. >> okay. >> meanwhile, we've got a live shot with laura ingraham coming up. but right now heather joins us with the news. >> good morning. got serious news. coming out of georgia, at least six people are hurt after a gunman opened fire at a fed-ex facilities in kennesaw, georgia. we understand that the shooter is still on the loose. this happened around 5:45 a.m. eastern time near cobb county airports, just northwest of atlanta. officials say the injuries as of now range from serious to minor. right now we understand that there are dozens of police on the scene and they are hunting for an active shooter right now. fed-ex, a short while ago issues released this statement, saying issues quote, fed-ex is aware of the situation. our primary concern is the safety and well-being of our team members. first responders and others affected. we'll keep you updated on there story as it develops. as of now, six people have been shot so far and someone is still on the loose, a shooter on the loose. another fox news alert. a second wave of killer storms taking aim at the south. >> let's go! >> look at that. the death toll after two days of tornadoes, rising to at least 28 people. you can see the homes ripped to shreds, leaving countless people homeless today. the extent of the devastation is staggering. the family from arkansas hit by a twister for the second time in three years. the family is okay, but their home completely destroyed. the roof is gone, the windows are blown out. the only thing that wasn't touched -- we hear this time and time again -- was the cross on the fronts door of their home. >> we know god was with us. god was taking care of us and he's still with us. >> indeed. more tornadoes and severe storms are expected through the south again today. we'll keep you posted on that. also new overnight, could you imagine look out your airplane window and seeing a fire spewing from the engine? look at this. pretty scary. that plane had just taken often from the airport in australia with 97 people on board. airport officials say that the fire started in that engine shortly after takeoff. the pilot immediately turned that plane around and was able to land safely. no one was hurt. the cause of that fire is under investigation. a college graduate in michigan tries to celebrate getting his diploma, but he fails pretty miserably. take a look. tried to do a back flip, but ouch. he was a university from davenport graduate. he fell a little short right there. he landed face down in a large crowd of family and friends. >> cheerleading is a sport. >> that's for sure. his ego was hurt, but he wasn't hurt too badly. those are your headlines. >> i don't think that guy could actually make the cheerleading squad. a for efforts. >> just a fist pump next time. >> get an air horn. >> or stick the landing. >> laura ingraham joins us right now from our nation's capitol. how did you like our open to this hour of the program on the carriage? >> i'm going to get to that. i think he's exempli tying what the job market looks like. fall right on your head. as you graduate. but you guys, next time could you please ride into the actual studio while connected to your ifb? okay? that would make it a -- you got to get the silksen for the kentucky derby. you need to be on a real racehorse. i love the horse and carriage. de blasio, take that. >> he took a lot of in a. a lot of those campaign funds. >> yeah, he's against them. >> of course. horse with no name. >> there you go. >> we're glad you're with us. now we want to hear what you think of john kerry, the disaster that is right now. we heard warning that israel could be apartheid state if they don't enter peace talks. should he resign? >> he's kind of apologized. he's done the walk back. as soon as it came out of my mouth, i regretted make the comments. we have to remember this comments doesn't exist in a vacuum. especially at the beginning of the administration. there was a loft concern from jewish americans and awful us to support israel that the president really wasn't as -- i think continuing the relationship with israel as it had been continued and conducted for years. so there was a loft concern, a lot of push back on the settlements, et cetera. so there was a lot of concern early on. so this kind of confirms what a lot of us believe about the president's approach to israel and the middle east peace. it's always israel's fault. and to say that apartheid -- he said he misspoke. i don't want to make too much of it. but the word is very charged. like the word holocaust. apartheid means economic and social and political disenfranchisement and discrimination institutionalized discrimination. this is our only ally that's a real democracy in the middle east. he knows that. he's going to have to do -- is he going to resign. >> he's not going to resign, i don't believe, over one comment. i think the policies are the real problem. and i don't think to brand israel an apartheid state has been very helpful, but he's going to be cleaning this up for some time. >> i think you're right, because people in his own party are steamed. >> boxer. >> yes. senator barbara boxer was on the twitter machine. she says israel is the only democracy in the middle east and any linkage between israel and apartheid is nonsensical and ridiculous. >> bad politics. >> yeah. plus, jewish leaders are fuming. >> yeah. again. the left rushes to demonize people who are either republican or conservatives who misspeak. i don't want to do what they do. i'm more concerned about the fact that we have a foreign policy that is essentially nonexistents today. we've accomplished nothing really in terms of foreign policy. america is weaker. everybody knows it. china is only the move. russia is on the move. and the middle east, all these dreams that we had of an arab spring turned out to crush religious minorities, crush christians, still have the textbooks in muslim countries that say jews are pigs and are defiling the world. so that's all continuing under the obama administration. so we're weaker and that's my real concern. one comment, it's a stupid and horrible comment, but the policies are the problem. >> i think it's so true because you can't debate a policy if there is no one to debate. we've taken our hands off the wheel. what do you think, mom? >> right. that goes right to hillary, too. >> let's talk about domestic politics and a woman that a lot of people are saying is a liberal's liberal. the senator out of massachusetts, senator elizabeth warren. her book has become a best seller because she's taken on the rich, on the capitalism. she says it's rigged. she says it and said it also on the daley show. >> that's what's fundamentally changed. it's tough out there. it really is a rigged game and it's set up now over and over. >> it's probably always been. >> well, snot -- not like this. it's set up over and over that the rich get richer and the powerful get more powerful. they've got all the advantages of concentrated money and concentrated power. >> wait a minute. she lives in a mansion. she was paid $350,000 to teach one class at harvard. and i believe she's worth north of $10 million. she's a 1%er. >> yeah. nothing is ever rigged at harvard, right? nothing rigged. it's so easy for a conservative professor to make their way at harvard or conservative students for that matter. they're never discriminated -- you know something? warren is for the whole equal pay mess. women, equal pay, 70 cents per dollar. she's all for policies attend up hurting the middle class. she's against the keystone pipeline. she believes that the minimum wage should be $22. that's what she said would be equitable. that would be fair in the currents market. so she talks good game and i think a lot of people do believe that money is concentrated in fewer hands today. that's true. fewer banks as well. no doubt about that. there is a populist pitch to be made, but her ideas actually run counter to helping the middle class. she's also for immigration amnesty, which i think, you know my position on this, it will hurt the middle class, hurt black american, hurt single mothers because it will depress wages in the united states to legalize millions upon millions of people who are already here. so i understand the moral case for that. i get it. but it's not going to help the middle class. that's farce. so she's got to change her policies to have any credibility on boo hoa the middle class. >> speak of stupid. >> we're going to move the party over to dartmouth college. you know it well. they can't use the word fiesta because it's racist. one of the students filed a complaints there. the editor of the dartmouth review was here with us and this is what he had to say. >> people were horrified that the reaction from the administration was such that the sensitivity of one group outweighed what was a charitable events put o on by the students body. >> our concern that the rule of law on dartmouth campus seems to be eroding slowly. the group with the ripest self-esteem gets a pass on these issues. there is no sense of bringing people to the table. it's always if you're offended, the most sensitive, you prevail. >> you say? >> i was editor of the dartmouth review a while ago. i was the first woman of the editor review. look, now one person, one young woman said she was offended by the word fiesta and the fact that they served, i don't know, mexican-themed food, that was so offensive to her that she -- i guess she wrote a letter, made her views known and the fraternity president and the sorority president, oh, of course we're going to cancel. so there is a couple of things going on here. one person can be offended and shut down a charity event. okay? that tells you all you need to know about free speech, free thought, and frankly, a great charity work at dartmouth college of the there is no meaning to the word liberal education if that is the basis for canceling a wonderful event that's been going on for three years. it's my alma mater. i love dartmouth, but the president set this up a couple weeks ago. the president of dartmouth allowed all these kids to take over his office and then a couple of days later, he's like, well, whatever it is you want, we'll basically give in to your views. >> yeah. >> that's where we are. >> thank you for joining us this morning and straightening us out. >> see you next week. coming up, can the nba team donald sterling's team, that is, can they take that team away from him and can someone go to jail? 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i support them. i've given entertainment food and clothes and cars and house. who gives it to them? does someone else give it to them? do i know that i have -- who makes the game? do i make the game or do they make the game? is there 30 owners, that -- >> joining us now, peter johnson, jr. >> good morning. >> he said, let me just answer everybody's questions 'cause we keep asking in the halls. >> we've gotten hundreds of questions here. >> here is one, can the commissioner actually confiscate the clippers, take them from the sterling family and sell it to somebody else? >> there is something called due process in this country. under the league rules, usually if there are financial problems or improprieties or the is insolvency, it could happen of the i don't believe it will happen. i believe we'll see a fine of the we'll see a penalties. some form of suspension today with regard to his activity. >> of course, he could always decide to appeal that. >> yes. >> is donald sterling actually accused of a crime? 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>> thank you. it is an iconic american ride here in new york city. but if the liberal mayor has his way, horse and carriages may soon be gone. so how far will he go to get rid of them? it might be too far. new reports now say the f.b.i. is investigating the group behind the ban for extortion against de blasio addressic opponents. allegedly they told christine quinn if she didn't support the ban, they'd make sure she never got elected. and then they spent a lot of money in anti-quinn ads. so how would shady politics affect the agenda of the horses and the carriage drivers? let's talk to them now. we've got steven malone and his horse up fronts is tyson and paul mcdade and his horse behind us, here amid the streets of new york city. good morning to beth of you. >> good morning. >> first of all, let's get started. this is the first time you've ever been in the back seat of a cab, right? >> yes, it is. >> the last time with two men. >> and during your years, how many people have guiltien engaged in the back of your cab? >> over the years, hundreds and hundreds of people. >> thousands. >> thousands? >> thousand. >> this is one of those iconic new york things, when you come to new york city, you got to go to central park. mayor de blasio has been funded in part by an anti-carriage crowd. why? >> it's our belief they all want real estate involved on the lower west side of many times where two of our stables reside. it's currentsly in the hudson yards project. and it's very valuable real estate and we're here to say to the american public that they're not for sale. >> sure. paul, the other side, the antes carriage people say it's lousy on the horse. they don't like doing it. let's replace them with $175,000 electric cars. >> makes no sense. people are coming for the horse and carriage rides. central park and other groups worked for years and years to rid the park of carriage. people are coming for the horse and carriage ride. that's what they want too see n sure. central park wouldn't allow them to start w. steven, tell us about your personal story, biography of you driving a cab. >> i started since i was a kid. my dad start here action he came from ireland in 1964, started shoeing horses for one of the local stables and my mom and dad eloped leer from ireland, got married on 13 carriages. he started driving a carriage bus the guy had an extra carriage of the they gave my dad to earn extra pay. >> that impacted your family for generations. so if de blasio gets his way after taking that campaign money and gets rid of the cabs, the horse drawn carriages what, will it do to you? >> as a 44-year-old man, i don't know what to do. i'm in the prime years my life, but this is all i've ever done. i was bred to drive it. >> yeah. we've been reading about this story in new york city. it's a big local story. it sounds like dirty politics. one guy took a bunch of money from one outfit. in the past, he was for the carriages, before he was against them. >> he had carriage rides before himself and his wife have been in the carriages. >> really? >> yep. and this is actually only really happened in the last couple of years that he's taken this position, since a big bagger, new york class. he's the money man. eats guy with the money. he's the guy with the real estate. he's the guy that wants real estate and wants these two stables specifically at the hudson yards. so he's a big player in this. different people fall in behind him. >> it looks like dirty politics. >> well, yeah, definitely. it doesn't smell right, you know what i mean? >> i understand it completely. >> all of a sudden we're going okay and then got a flu mayor, boom -- a new mayor, bottom. it changed out of nowhere. >> if you would like to help these carriage drivers and horse go to savenyccarriagehorse.com. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> we've been sitting here for the last five minutes, we're lucky the horse didn't take off. there is nobody keepings from -- keeping us from going on. >> we've asked him to stay kwai kwai -- quiet. coming up, she had a pocket knife in her purse when she went to school. now she's been expelled, has zero tolerance gone too far. they shake pom poms and dance to music, all to support a team. should cheerleading be a sport? 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deadly round of twisters barreling through the south. the death toll rising to 28 people after two days of tornadoes. >> our own maria molina is live on the ground in tupelo, mississippi. another day of death and destruction, unfortunately. >> yeah, that's right. more tornadoes impacts another series of states over the overnight hours and earlier in the afternoon hours yesterday. we know that tornadoes touched down in places like mississippi, alabama, and also across the state of tennessee. here the damage is extensive. behind me we have what used to be a strip mall with the roof blown offment there is debris inside of it. we've seen furniture outside of park lots, metsal scrappings on park lots as well, thrown around. and cars tossed and flipped and windows shattered as well. and also car wind shields shattered. we did speak to someone who survived a tornado. he was in his car when the tornado hit and that car was pushed to the side. his wife and children were at the restaurant and they had to hide and ride out the tornado inside in the cooler. he survived and they are all fine. but their business severely damaged. other survivors who rode out the storm when the tornado hit here in tupelo, take a look. >> ripped the roof off the building over there. we all jumped in the pit. glass flying all around down in the pit. >> to see trees twisted and snapped like what they are now it's nothing i've ever seen in my life and nothing i want to see again. >> we've also seen images of trucks and cars overturned and just again, the debris extensive out here. something that's hard to convey over video or images is the smell of gas. that's also been a big concern here in this city and we spoke to the mayor about that who said that crews have been working long hours overnight and have been make progress on that. other areas that were impacted hard by tornadoes, louisville, mississippi. that county, three people were killed, extensive damage there as well. the threat for more severe weather extending from parts of the southeast up into parts of the midwest. there is a moderate risk issued by the storm prediction center, including parts of eastern mississippi. also parts alabama and that means that the tornadoes that stay on the ground and cause this type of damage are possible yet again today. let's head over to new york. >> all right. maria molina live in tupelo, mississippi, where another 11 dead overnight in the states of boston alabama, mississippi. heather nauert is standing by with break news. >> this time i have good news. we've had a loft tough news this morning. listen to this, we've been talking about the story all morning long. a father and his two young children who went miss not guilty a south carolina national park have been found. they are all safe and have been taken to a local hospital for observation. the three of them went missingia hike in an enormous national forest there. a friend says he knew they were in trouble after receiving a text message saying they were lost. no word on how they got disoriented, but they are okay this morning. we're glad to tell you. self-proclaimed 9-11 mastermind had his sights set on london. testifying in a trial said khalid sheikh mohammed was planning to strike. after 9-11, mohammed pulled out an almanac of the world's tallest building and crossed out the twin towers and started going through the book for new targets. sick. overnight dozens of students at rutgers university, they occupied the president's office protesting the school's decision to invite condoleeza rice to speak at graduation. rutgers is paying her $35,000 for her appearance. but some say that they are outraged because her role in the iraq war. so far the university says that rice is still invited, but you may remember this one two years ago, the school paid 312 grand to snooki to offer students these choice words. study hard, but party hard. okay. looks like a very interesting story coming out of new orleans. a flamboyant new orleans socialite, her dying wish is to appear at her own wake, so she did. 83-year-old mickey easterling died april 14 and she went out in style with a final farewell cocktail party. she had left strucks to be propped up in a chair dress in her finest floral dress and bright pink boa with a glass champagne in one hand and cigarette in. >> no her daughter said it was really nice way to say the party is over. okay. party is overment let's take down that picture. brian, let's head over to you for sports. okay. nice message. i'd be alive if i didn't have that cigarette in my corpse. now clippers owner sterile something feeling the full court press. hours from north texas the nba will decide about 12:00 o'clock eastern time, to deal with him. commissioner ademeanor silver's first big task is expected to give a presser. it's unclear what punishment it could be. but many are expecting the league to come did you know hard. he faces fines, suspensions, and could even forced to give up his team. i sense it might go to the rest his family and he'll be tossed. check this out, two softball players helped an opposing player around the bases after she tripped and blew out heroine the injured player's homerun may not have counted if she didn't go around the base. good sportsmanship prevailed. it goes to show you that -- >> it's a team sport. it took a village. >> right. >> for her to score once injured. >> i love that story. >> by the way, coming up in 20 minutes, mark levolitch will be our guest. i got to talk about something else. cheerleading, i've never done it. many have. now the big debate, should it be a sport? >> right. 34 states so far have acknowledged it is, including the district of columbia, recognized it as a sport. new york set to decide on that today. >> board of rejudgments is going to say yes or no. it's not a sport. they're going to say yes, it is, because apparently state officials have already recommended it. this has set off, in the history of our station issue for years we have done battle behind the scenes, is it or is it not a sport? dean cain, who is definitely a support of this program we'd in on whether or not it's a sport and he said this definitely should happen asap. >> look at that. support for cheerleading being a sport. this is due to the evolution of the sport and the difficulty of it. >> the old-fashioned cheerleading was give me an a, give me a c. there is no i in team. >> what were you spelling? >> i'm not sure. it was a team that never won. but those are just people who showed up and do cheers. but cheerleading is misnamed based on what they're doing today. here is the definition of a sport and tell me if it fits this. sport, an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. >> right. you got a dwelled medal for stick ago landing. they're tossing people up, the injuries are severe. they have to train long hours to do what they do. i say yes if should be a sport. >> so that is the definition. what do you think? norris has written in on facebook. last time i checked, they don't have sporting events at sporting event. >> that's good one. >> good point. general gee on facebook says there is a huge difference between side line cheering at game and a competitive cheer team. i agree with that. my 17-year-old daughter is a competitive cheerleader who anyone who says is not a sport has never watched. i would say this, the problem is the name. there is cheerleading, which is look, we're winning. we're really winning. and there is the competition that you see on espn and fox sports 1. that's why you should rename it. it should be synchronized acrobatics. there is cheerleading on the side, but synchronized ac about thetics. >> i wouldn't say synchronized because then everybody has to dot same thing. >> but they have to do it in a we of -- >> you know what? name the sport. >> joe, your daughter does cheerleading. >> she does. it's a competition cheer. >> so you believe it is a sport? >> it is a sport. >> okay. >> my daughter is catching the girls who are flipping in the air. these girls, they work very hard. they get concussion, sprained fingers, ages, the whole nine of the i saw a girl do a flip and get a face plant and get a broken nose. >> what would be a good flame -- name? >> it's competitive cheer. they work very hard. it is a sport. in spite of the what you're saying in the control room, it's sport. >> joel, how much time before the hard break? >> about 40 seconds. >> we should read this. >> coming up next, according to joel, actors have a new way to see and hear everything you do. by hack into baby monitors. it happened to one mom and she's here live with a warning every parents needs to hear. >> that's right. take a grape from a monkey and he'll go ba fellow in as. -- bananas. you'll be talk being this video all day long. lesson there. ♪ ♪ make every day, her day with a full menu of 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>> on this sunday night, high alert. a dangerous and powerful li of stms triggers at last a dozen tornadoe throughout the dwest.p tonight, where it's headed, as morehan 50 million americans remain in its path. > moment of impact. new video show the enormous por of the typhoon as it surged ashore as many wait for relief, how me are taking matters into their own hand ten ys after the storm. meningitis outbreak, a rare strain of the potentially deadly disease discoveredt a leading universi, as thousandwait on a cision or whether to use an emergency vacne. and invisible threat. why law enforcemt now fear it could lose an important dense agait those deadly homemade plastic guns, capable of slipping through metal dettors unte detected. good evening. alafternoon we've been watching aajor and deadly weather evt unfold across the midwest and it is stillot over. at least the ople have died in central illinois, after the violent orm system unleashed tornadoe demolishing score of homes and businesses, and injuring dozensf people. the threatening weather even forcing th suspensionof today's chicago bearsame at soldiefield. here now 5:30 central time pas of michigan, ohio and kentucky remain under tordo wahes, with strong wind warnin and aisories extending back into illinois. we have full coverage starting with nbc's kevin tibbles in the town of wilminon, illinois. good evening. >> reporter: lester, no one could havemagined a storm of this magnitude churning its way across the midwest this late in the year but tonight, at least three people are dead, and numerous communities are assessing the damage. >> oh my go this thing is huge. and it's comingfast. >> reporter: severe weather cut a wide ph through the midwest sundayafternoon. >> go, go, go, go, go! oh my god, it's he. >> reporter: putting more than 53 million people across ten states at high risk, tens of millions more the storm pushed east. oh my god, this thing is getting really wide, john. >> reporter: the national weather servicessued significant waings for tornadoes, damaging winds, havy thunderstorms. >> these dangerous stms are expected to spreaapidly eastward during the afternn. this is a very dangers situation. >> reporte in washington, illinois, three hours west of chicago, whole sections of the city flatten. >> reports alrea of 70-me-an-hour winds associated with this stor and one inch hail. >>eporter: the strong nds barreled into a peoria, illinois, news station, during a live broadct. >> we may need to takeshelter right nowourselves. >> we do. >> we need to go off air. weill be back when we can. >> ight, we'llbe right back. >> reporte heavy rain and straig line winds also caused serious mage in missouri. >> oh my goodss. this is going on downtown st. louis right now. we've got very stro wi, raining to beat the band, wow, that's why we have the severe understorm warning right now. >>eporter: in chicago, a tornado warng delad a bears and ravens game in soldier field during the fst quarter. >> warning. >> reporter: due to e inclement weather the ge will be temporarily suspende . >>eporter: forcing fanto evacuate the stadium. >> first as a precauti and then we' suspendinghe game seek shelter. >> reporter: the sto threat from illinois southeast, wisconsin, lower michigan and western ohio. piures posted onocial media show the devastating eects of thstorm as it moved fromne location to the next in a matter of minutes, givingeople little visual confirmation of the thre before it stru. all of audden the wind really started pickin . >> reporter: steve bucher from washington, illinois, was eating lunch when a tornadoit his street. within less than ainute everything started collapsing inside the house. cracng, sputtering and the next thing we know it'slight inside the house. those are our two vehicles sittingcross in theield over there, one of which was inside our garage at the te. >> reporter: it was your garage and n it's -- >>he gray one. >> reporter: 100 yards away? >> yes. you see it on your tv pgrams d you can't belie it, and you sit rit in the middle of it and you still can'believe it. >> reporter: lester, tonight the winds continue to rip on their way down here, i saw damaged hoem homes, toppled trees and semis tossed like toys. con ed does not want me to go any further because those are power cables acss the road. this storm ll continue moving east overnight. >> remarkable pictur, kevin, thanks. we turn to the south and fartr east. weher channeleteorologist mike eidel is tracking the storm in covington, kentuck we understand you were just hearing sirens there. >> reporter:es, lester in the background the tornado sirens just wt off a fewinutes ag the linef storms we've be watching all daynow movi in as we speak. the winds cld gust over 70 miles an hour, you could see e leavesnd rain swirling in the piure. the orms are moving at 60 miles an hour. i can hear the roar of the win eier side of the building is providingprotection. visibility is going down the flags are being whipped by this wind. there is a severe thunderstorm warning acro the metro area and a tornado watch until 8:00, but thnextalf anhour is ing to be the storms that mean siness potentially knocking down trees, power lines and knocking out per here in metro ncinnati. lester? all right, ke seidel. let let's ll back the big picture weather channel meteorologist jim cantore is at weather channel headquarters with re. good evening. >> lester what's amang about this outbreak it's movi as fast as most of us dre our cars on the interstate, 60 to 70 miles per hour here. the watches that are out you can see em from michigan all the way downnto tennsee. we do expect ose will continue east tonig, as the storms do as well, and you can see they're progressing alonquickly. let's ask this model to let us know where these storms are gog to be at what times. so here's sunday, 9:30 this evening, we progressforward, pittsburgh, you'll be in this, rochester, scrann, albany, new york. most of the weather will be through the big cities by 7:00 m. with the exceptn of boston, they havto deal with the worst of thi but of cose behi it we are talking about very gusty northwest winds, like the winds th kevin tibes is aling with tonight sagain as we go fromhis point forward throug the overnight expect a severeeather area to cover many, many states d many millions of people, an active november d to say the least. lester? >> all riht, jicantore thanks very much. we'll go bac to the weathe story as evts warrant. we wt to turn to a deadly ane crash today in russia. it happeneds a boeing 737 on a flight from moscow crashed while trying to landin the russn city of kazan, st of the capital. officials saidll 50 pple on board were killd. thplane, which belongedto tarttan airlines was tryg to ma a second landing attempt when it slammed into the runway and exploded. here in southern california just off thcoast an accident this weeke involving a u.s. navy drone. officials say the manned plane malfunioned and struck the "uss chanceorsville" a guided missile stroyer. the drone w being used to test the ship's radar. two sailors wer treated for minor injuries. the obama ministration gins this week still very mh on the defensive about the new health care law, trying to nally get the rollout on tck and trying to make sure democrats st with the party line. our report tonight fm white use correspondent kristen welker. >> you guys are worthless. >>eporter: one month ago it was the republicanparty on life support, blad for the government hutdown. >> the amerin people overwhelming reje ama ca. >> reporter: butow the democrats are fractureand playg defense in the wakof the rocky heal care rollout. >> they can fix this, it is a textible problem. >> reporter: replicans are pilingn. >> the president said that h fumbled e rollout. it'sime for a time-out. >> reporter: thimorning democratic par leaders tried to strike a unite front. >> democrats stand tall in support of affordable ce act. >> reporter: and they downplayed the 39 house democrats man facing tough re-ections who broke with the president fday to approve a republican bill reoring canceled policies indefitely. >>bout 30 of them and i've talked to them were insulati themselvesgainst sound bites, and that's partof the problem. >> reporter: today "the washington post" reports the adnistration will consider the marketplace a success if % of users can buy health care plans online, meaning tens of thousas won't be able to do so. administration officials wouldn't confirm that figure, but the house democratic leader sa she's ancipating an 80% success rate o the website. >> ty're anticipating tt 80% bydecember 1as we goforward. >> reporter:till with l the problems plaguing obama care the administration has become fodder for "saturday nightive." the enrollment perioisn't a disaster. >> and is ginning to affect your work. ask your doctor fo paxil, second tm strength. >> reporter: not a laughing tter to those inside the white house, who know the president's legacy is riding on his health re plan. analysts sayhere's still time to recover >> in the end,narack obama's ca, probably the best thing he cado about all of this is to make sur that his health care program succeeds. >> reporter: now this week insurance companiesnd state commissioners wille scrambling to figure out how and if they'll adhereo the president's fix, which allo insurance companies to restore canceled policies for one year. anwhile president obamawill try to rally his core supporters during a conference ca tomorrow night. lester? kristen welker, thank you. as big desion is expected in the next day or so at princeton university whether wbr id "wbr6210" to give thousands onñr that caus a vaccine not approved in this country buthat could protect them against an outbreak of meningitis. we get the latest from kristen da dahlgren. rorter: at princeton ai waiting game, many ndering if the university will approve a emergency vaccine for a potentially deadly meningitis outbreak the fact that thanksgiving break is scar with all of the families coming to princeton. reporter: meningitis kills 120 people in the u.s. every year and the b strain fod at princeton isn't covered by vaccines approved in this country. outbreak is b it doesn't make sense that this many childre over a six month period have been infected. /b reporter: the first princeton stent was diagnosed in march after she returned from spring break. those who had come in contact th her were given prophylactic treatmt. may 6t a student wa taken to the hospital and agsed, may 20th another diagnosised afte he traled home. june 3h a wbr-id "wbr6810" student on an academic trip abroad was diagnosed and there have been two more cases snce school resumed thifall, one october 3 d the most recent novembe 10th. meningitis is spread bylose personal contact, a quarter of the population couldarry and spread t dsehout getting sick themselves. symptoms va but may include high fever, headache, stiff neck, naus and sentivity to light. bexsero the vaccine does prevent the b strain and used in europe since january and australia since august. our approvalrocess can be exemely rigorousut it's designed to prott the united states populatioagainst side effects that may not appear right afr approval of a drug. >> reporter: if approd the ccine will only go to those on caus. >> routine, everyday, going to e movies, the restaurant, it's not a concern. >> reporter:o on campus tonight e wait continues for a decision thatcould come as soon as tomorr. kristen dahlgrennbc news, new york. wve got lot more to tell you about on this sunday night. when we continue on "nighy news," still waiting for helpn the philippines and how some are responding ten dayafter the deadly typhoon struck. and later, real guns made of plastic and undetectable. why police worry theyay lose a. the streets. the sics, you know. i got this. 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management. >> guy, thank you all. continuing, david, here on the place for business news. fox and as i told you just last week, we're going to keep doing this every week. here's david. transparency, a huge political add vac and basically called the stupidity of the american voter or whatever, basically, that was really, really critical to get to the past. >> no matter how many times, rileals me up. obamacare admitting the law was passed by pulling a fast one on you, and most americans. calming them stupid, not once, not twice, at least three or four, even five times. take a look. >> pretty much the same thing. why does it matter? you'll see. too stupid to understand the difference. >> a clever, basic exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the american voter. >> so as republicans look to undo obamacare, will this prove to be the final nail in the law's coffin? hi, everybody. david asman. welcome to "forbes on fox." go in focus to find out with elizabeth macdonald, rich, sabrina schaffer in new york along with michael ozanian and rick unger. sabrina a game changer in changing the law. >> absolutely. one of the big challenges building a coalition against obamacare, hard to move. >> man:. everybody heard the arguments about rising costs, lower care and harder to keep your doctor. heard them so many times it doesn't work anymore. injaect new message into the conversation, talk about how especially this stupid, how stupid the american people are, were fools, this is apt to have a big change in voter preferences. >> rick, the message is deception. deception was used to sell the bill. by the way, even before wep got the gruber tapes, we have this poll showing that most americans do think there was misrepresentation, in selling obamacare? >> yeah. the message that gruber is saying is indeed deception. i'm not going to sit here and tell you that i agree with his message, but i'm not going to argue and defend him in any way, shape or form, and be honest. i could take apart everything he said and show where i don't think it's true. it doesn't matter. for those who are against this law, and we know there are many, this will only serve to reinforce their belief and i'm not going to be able to change that right. by the way, emac, not just anybody. this was one of the main architect, the "washington post" referred to him as the coin of the realm in coming up with an economic model on obamacare. now, we knew the numbers didn't add up. we've been saying it for a couple of years now. but clearly, they knew that the numbers didn't add up, too. >> yeah. goes beyond just calling them in for hearings, or undoing obamacare. indicted for criminal brainlessness, this guy. more videos show him saying knit-whitted nonsense than "airplane" movies now. the american people, the issue, and congress, misled into supporting this law saying the administration said it would basically lower your insurance premiums. get to keep your doctor. low are the deficit, create jobs. none of that happened. there should be hearings into this. by the way, we have 2 million fewer full-time workers nan 2007 and more tarttime jobs pup need the jobs to pay for this thing. there needs to be hearing into what gruber said and pullback on obamacare. >> again, because it is such a deception, the tactic used was really based in deception, mike ozanian and it continues, by the way. pelosi. congresswoman pelosi claims even though she was working with them, she never heard of this guy. >> i don't know who she. he didn't write our bill. >> but back in 2009, she had a different story about him. >> our bill brings down rates. i don't know if you had seen jonathan gruber's and mike hughes' analysis. >> the deception on the part of the people that sold this thing continues even today, mike. >> david, i'm not going to argue with the deception point you're making. it's absolutely correct, but i do disagree with sabrina. i don't think this is a game-changer in public opinion. what obamacare is about is the redistribution of wealth, and those american voters who believe in the redistribution of wealth are still going to support obamacare. >> rich, i must disagree with my friend mike, because this really is the face of what's wrong with america. this is the face. gruber has become the face of what the election last week was all about. i mean, look at -- by the way, we've looked in the guy's finances. not just the $400,000 that he was paid for his obamacare consulting. $2 million worth of contracts with hhs that go back seven years plus a lot of contracts with individual states. so from federal level to the state level, this guy's a money machine. the kind of person that washington relies on. >> yeah. even more than the use of the word stupidity, i loved his use ftd word "whatever." whatever sums up the whole administration. through the middle class, whatever. screw the working class, whatever. damage the health care system, damage the internet, whatever. you know? it perfectly sums it up. will it have any impact? it boils down i think to what the supreme court is going to do when it takes it up in march. the swing voters will be chief justice roberts and justice kennedy, and will this make a difference? we'll see. >> emac what do you think? >> rich brings up a good point. apparently gruber weighed in on that, too and said tax credits really oernt meant for the state health exchanges, not the federal exchanges. that's now going to the supreme court. i want to know what regulations what increased taxes, what about a more intrusive irs that americans were too stupid to know about ahead of time and we have now even gruber talking about how in massachusetts they purposely set up their version of health care reform by taking $400 million from taxpayers. that is theft from the american people. there needs to be hearing into that. >> and what it poboils down to, rick in another tape he's in, wealth redistribution. what obamacare was about. >> i've got to say, the two people i'm include to disagree the most both 345mead really go points. this isn't going to change the future of obamacare. you still have president bv b in the white hou obama in the white house. nothing's going away while he's there. and liz made a point. about the case coming before the supreme court. we don't know how much the court will take notice of what he said. they're not really supposed to, but they're human being. it could be an impact and would be a huge impact if they do pay attention to this. >> sabrina, told time and again this was going to save americans money. clearly they didn't believe it was going to save americans money when saying it? >> of course, no. that's a lie. i think, look, both mike and rick raise an important point, there's been a lot of ups and downs with obamacare, right? failed implementation but a win in the courts. all sorts of things that have gone up and down. i understand it may not be the game changer. usually republicans are the ones caught in policy wonkalingage. talking the individual. talking the individual american person out there. that's going to resonate in a way that costs and gdp and prices that's not going -- >> getting away from the weeds of the minutia of what the law is. it's clear now. it's deception. the law is deceptive. the people selling it deceiving the american people and sde deceiving them now with nancy pelosi's statements. >> despicable. nancy pelosi's recent statements. but all of this is occurring in a context of economic growth. it is not widely distributed. and every voter who was polled in the 2014 elections that occurred a couple weeks ago, the economy was the number one issue, and so, you know, you've got the deception, but even worse you've got the deception and then when people are -- >> hacked off because of economy. >> an administration that prize itself on equality. on equalling things particularly economically and it's actually, the actual effects of these policies go in the opposite direction. >> i'll have to go back and paraphrase winston churchill who says socialism is nothing more than equal sharing of misery. what obamacare s. we'll leave on that. really a notion. speaking of obamacare, is the president's executive order for illegals going to explode that cost even more? "cashin' in" on cove erg the numbers in a minute. first, is the president asking for a world wide web of trouble pushing to regulate the internet? it's who's pushing back that says it all. woman: everyone in the nicu -- all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trade him for the world. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. if you're caring for a child with special needs, our innovative special care program offers strategies that can help. just take a closer look. it works how you want to work. with a fidelity investment professional... or managing your investments on your own. helping you find new ways to plan for retirement. and save on taxes where you can. so you can invest in the life that you want today. tap into the full power of your fidelity greenline. call or come in today for a free one-on-one review. live from america's news headquarter, i'm kelly wright. good morning. president obama arrived in australia for the g20 summit before meeting with world leaders, mr. obama gave a speech to university students in brisbane. the president saying the u.s. was the leading voice in opposing russia's actions in ukraine. he described as a threat to the world, a quote. and call and nations in asia and the pacific to join the u.s. in confronting global challenge. and a xarp in the skies over california. a bird strike force this alaska airlines flight to turn back for an emergency landing in oakland minutes after taking off. the plane was heading to seattle. none of the 153 people onboard were hurt but the impact reportedly damaged and electronics panel in the cockpit. i'm kelly wright. see you back here at 1:00 p.m. eastern time for a brand new hour of news. now back to "forbes on fox." point, click, sick. critics blasting the white house this week as the president pushes the fcc to regulate the internet. they're calling it the next big government power grab, the former chairman of the fcc telling me he agrees. >> the statute the president is calling for being used as our national internet policy is so ambiguously written, you could easily encompass a whole host of applications, services and innovation we never imagined were regulated by the fcc. >> and rich karlgaard, a lot of people worried about a government takeover of the internet. could this get us there? >> it could get us there and it has all sorts of implications around censorship and so on but the economic considerations are this -- at&t's ceo randall stephenson is ready to spend tens of billions of dollars rolling out next generation fiber in 100 stcitie in the united states. he's hesitating whether he'll get his money back-charging premium services to companies like netflix and because this law, if it passes, is that, you know, at&t wouldn't be able to do that. so he won't invest. >> it's already had an $18 billion impact on our economy, bill? >> well, the brand theory seems to be that obama bet on world domination is going to seize every inch of the internet and censor it. i'm not that afraid of that particular outcome. we'll see something much more moderated, price regulations and those rare instances where the cable provider, as in my neighborhood harks a monopoly. not so bad. >> point is obviously not happening overnight a government takeover, mike ozanian, but incremental. when has the fcc ever made an organization more efficient? we really want the fcc to start regulating the internet? >> no, david. it's a bad law. all we have to do go back to 1966 and see why. the fcc came in with a law that basically distinguished between traditional telephone companies, regulated had a cell band below price, below market price and then the new information services companies, capital and money poured into the unregulated information service companies. broadband grew. what we have today is in largely due that. without that investment we wouldn't have the internet we have today, and it wasn't until the early 2000s where it freed up the telephone companies and they became unencumbered with regulations that capital flowed in. >> a point. when have they ever made an organization for efficient or appropriate cheaper? the fcc? >> a fair point to make. this is an incredibly nuanced issue. i find it to be. conservatives, of course, abhor government involvement. i get it, totally do, but there's something that president reagan showed us that concerted abhor even more. that a natural monopoly. why reagan broke up the telephone companies and all should wonder if we had 9 great innovation if he hadn't in that field. >> sabrina, the worst monopoly of all is a government monopoly, because they make illegal any kind of competition. that's awful for the consumer. >> absolutely. look, the technology and the internet we've all grown to rely on, especially helpful to working moms like myself, means that it comes as result of the absence of government regulat n regulation, as my said. not because of it. it's a power grab in the wake of the nra scandal, and irs scandal, we should be especially concerned about this. >> another factor mike powell, former fcc chairman said, he's worried about regulation of content. we don't want government -- they're not going to say they're doing it. the fcc wouldn't get into that right now, but eventually that's how we go down the slippery slope of censorship. right? >> well, this administration has not exactly been a friend of the first amendment and everybody knows that, but i want to address the point as about monopolies. they don't last in technology. the government thought ibm was a ma knop lip in the 1980s. those microsoft was in the 1990s. it was actually market forces that brought down the influence of these companies. interesting company to watch is google. used to be for this law that obama wants and now that google is in, increasingly getting in the business of supplying fiber, they've pulled back. >> a lot of change of views on this and, bill we now have the majority of the public according to a new poll just out, 61% of the people polled don't want the government, the fcc, to get involved in the internet? >> i don't want the government to be designing my internet but would love to have a little more competition, not less, and just terrific if verizon were to compete with cablevision in my neighborhood. >> hold on. sabrina when has the government a government regulatory body ever increased competition? >> right. just finished talking about obamacare what a nightmare that's become and look at the schools. the fact is the market is responding. there are packages where you don't have to have everything bundled together. companies are responding to market demand and we have to make sure the government doesn't stop that. >> mike? >> she's absolutely right and really what it comes down to is you can allow market forces to prevail, and with the fcc what they'll do if it listens to the president, it will curb those market forces, force unbundles, force pricing things below market and that will cause capital investment to dry up. >> all right. i think, by the way, the younger generation is very much opposed to this, from my cold, dead hands they'll have to take my computer away from me. and the president's pick for tvrp t.j., and she is praised by people on both sides of the aisle for being fair. why are some businesses worried? find out. kid: hey dad, who was that man? dad: he's our broker. he helps looks after all our money. kid: do you pay him? 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>> i am worried. a phantom law. we all want to end racism, this isn't require evidence of racist lending policy. no evidence loretta lynch will push back against this policy. >> essentially accused of something with no proof necessary in order to prove that case. seems un-american? >> this is it. count the results and then make you guilty if they didn't like the results. >> if your workforce has this x number of employees not of a particular race, you're guilty, even if you didn't discriminate? >> everybody would be guilty. every business that sells expensive cars would be guilty of one racial group has a different average income than another racial group. we're going to -- yankees guilty of age discrimination. nobody of my age in the lineup, right? >> and a number of companies that settled for hundreds of millions of dollars because they don't want to be called discriminators. settled out of court based on this principle? >> yes. specifically this is about house loans and that certain groups are not, finding it harder to get loans and, therefore, the banks must be discriminating, and number one, this is very discouraging to banks and can ruin honest banking careers. number two, if implemented a great way to create the next housing bubble. >> emac, another factor to all this. by the way, sitting in the front row during the president's announcement ms. lynch would be chosen for this, or judge lynch, was mr. reverend al sharpton. so he's the king of the shakedowns of businesses. accuses somebody of racism and then settles and gets paid money so that if he pulls his protesters out -- is that what we're looking forward to? >> also shaken down taxpayers building his salary structure on nonprofit. this is -- glad we're having this discussion. torp cher the data as long and you want and as long, to whatever you want, that's at issue here. loretta lynch has a history of independent thought. curious to see if she follows court cases here? >> liz has her finger on it. the least political appointee in a while and is more likely to follow the court cases. got to tell you something, i don't think lorp retta lynch will be our next attorney general? >> why not? >> they made a critical mistake. simple. put the hearings over into the next congress. republican majority in the senate. nair going to ask her just one question. >> what's that? >> if the president does his executive order on immigration next week, the only question she's going to get asked is, was it constitutional or -- good point. possible because of what rick said she will not be confirmed? >> anything's possible. it is true. people say they less political. we need someone with courage to stand up against this. i'm actually worried she won't have the courage. these lenders get screwed. either your racist if you don't lend to someone with a -- if you do with a race profile. if you don't, you're greedy a greedy son of a gun. >> were you worried seeing al sharpton sitting in the front row of the president's announcement of this? 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obama is far from being the most transparent in history? log on to our facebook page, #keeptalking. >> have a good one. good morning. it is tuesday, november 18. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we begin with a fox news alert. terror in the heartland. a 29-year-old woman behind bars in virginia this morning for having ties to the islamic state. was she trying to recruit americans to fight for isis? we have those breaking details for you. >> he's never met a microphone he didn't like. until now. >> professor, do you really think the american voters are stupid? what about the obamacare? is that just a hoax on the american people? >> go get him, dave. watch what happens when the men who sold obamacare faces the fox news cameras. it is the best video perhaps you will see all day. because you know ♪ ♪ i'm about ♪ that baste ♪ more butter ♪ i'm all about that ♪ baste ♪ about that baste ♪ >> america's favorite singing family taking on turkey day. your move hasselbeck family. you can match it. mornings are better with friends. >> this is nancy o' del and you are watching "fox & friends." >> thank you, nancy. welcome aboard, folks. ladies and gentlemen, we're all back together. >> i can't believe it. i know we've got a lot of to get to but so good to see you elisabeth. you can say you're back and you're okay and everything's okay? >> i'm back, i'm okay and everything is okay. thank you for having both of my brothers by my side and all of you joining us this morning. we'll get right to a fox news alert. overnight palestinians armed with knives and guns and axes stormed a synagogue killing at least four jewish worships that were praying inside. we're live in jerusalem with the breaking horrific details. what can you tell us this morning? >> we've seen a spike in violence in jerusalem, really around the country in recent weeks and months but today's attack in comparison to what we've seen was particularly brutal. about 7 a.m., 50 or so israelis were beginning their morning worship. two palestinian men armed with axes, knives and a pistol stormed a local synagogue here in jerusalem. most of the people were able to get outside and escape the violence but the two men began hacking and shooting at different people and at least four people were killed. several others were injured. we're getting word one of those dead is an american citizen. one of the first responders on the scene described the situation like this. have a listen. >> they stabbed people once and twice and three times to make sure that they did the job. very bad. very bad. >> police say the two attackers were brothers from east jerusalem and one of them worked at a grocery store in the area. they knew the synagogue. they knew the area. tensions between israelis and palestinians have been tense in the last few months particularly after this summer's war in gaza. clashes and attacks happening on both sides fairly regularly here in jerusalem. but in recent weeks it's a spike because some very extreme jewish groups have been trying to pray on a exawnd, -- compound, devoted to both muslims and jews. this has ratcheted up tension. we've been seeing the spikes for a few weeks. the city in jerusalem is as calm and chill as i've seen it because there's sort of a real fear about what's going to happen. people are describing this as a second interfad did a. there is a real concern that a third intifada may be starting or we may be in the middle of one. >> thank you for the barbaric details. >> if you look at the pattern of violence, something's happening and it's not good. and they keep on going up on each side. >> keeping you posted with the headlines this morning, heather nauert has got those. >> good morning. a lot of news back home. the governor of missouri is activating the national guard and declaring a state of emergency as we await a grand jury decision in the shooting death of michael brown. the state of emergency declared as the f.b.i. issues a nationwide warning. law enforcement across the country being advised that the grand jury decision will likely lead to violent backlash by protesters. new this morning, a 29-year-old woman is behind bars in virginia. she's charged with lying to the f.b.i. about possible ties to isis. court papers reveal that she promoted isis on facebook using fake names and talking about arrangements for her husband to train with the terror group in syria. he backed out when the couple split up. investigators say the woman offered to make similar arrangements for an undercover agent. she is supposed to be prepping for the miss world competition but instead she is missing. she and her sister vanishing after a party in honduras later in the week. police have four suspects in custody but they have not found the woman nor have they say what might have happened. the beauty queen is supposed to be in the world competition which takes place next month. an oxford dictionary releasing its word of the year, vape. that is the word and it's short for vapor. it means to inhale or exhale while smoking an ecigarette. it has terms including slackivist. last year's word was selfie. those are your headlines. what does bae mean? >> loved one. are ecigarettes bad for you? >> they don't have nicotine. they have tar. >> where do you get the tar if you can't get it from cigarettes? how do you get that into your diet? >> you've got to drill for it. go to your asphalt sidewalk. >> we've been talking about jonathan gruber and the damage he has done to that man -- the president. and there's john gruber right there, the m.i.t. professor. obviously he's doing real damage because this morning "the new york times" in the editorial page is defending him. what's curious is of all the video that we have released and shown so far, it shows him shooting off his mouth, mr. gruber talking about how he did all this stuff for the president. the white house has been saying he's kind of a fringe player. well, here's the president of the united states on television in 2006 talking about how he, barack obama, actually stole ideas from mr. gruber. >> you've already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles, many of them i've stolen ideas from liberally, people ranging from robert gordon to austin goalsby, john gruber, my dear friend jim wallace here, who you can talk, i think, who can inform what are sometimes dry policy debates with a prophetic voice. >> prophetic? was he prophetic about the premiums going up right now, the increases in the lowest point plan right now in obamacare? prophetic? that word stuck out to me and what's sticking out to the american people, is obama, remember, he was opposed to the individual mandate. >> during the democratic nomination. >> absolutely. he attacked hillary clinton for her stance on it. saying imagine being forced to take on an insurance plan you can't even afford. imagine that. imagine no more. we're in that area. but gruber who was tbrawt in with his mathematical machine to give numbers behind the madness of obamacare is the one president obama denied, he wasn't even on our staff. not on your staff? he was paid over $400,000 by the department to get in there. and he had a lot to say. maybe you should have had him sign a nondisclosure. david webb went to get him at m.i.t. yesterday and ambush style asked him a few questions and jonathan gruber was all hush yesterday. >> you have had lots to say to the media. what about talking to us? we just want to talk to you. >> no thank you. >> do you think the american people would have actually bought into obamacare without all the deception on the c.b.o. scoring? >> i have no comment. >> if you're telling the truth, why are you apologizing, as you did? >> i have no comment. >> professor, one last chance. let's have a conversation. >> professor, do you really think the american voters are stupid? >> no comment. >> what about the obamacare? is that just a hoax on the american people? >> i don't think he wanted to talk. i'm not really sure. that was easily voted the most unpleasant walk of the day. meanwhile, jonathan gruber comes out and it turns out he was a member of the transition team with the obama administration. he ends up being a member who visited the white house 12 separate times and got countless state and federal contracts. but in the end peter gruber -- >> john. >> jonathan gruber, i'm thinking about the producer. here is jonathan gruber talking about essentially what the president's legacy is. >> i think the short attention span of the american public works to his advantage here. i think a year from now when the law is working, it will be long forgotten. >> so to recap, we're stupid and we forget things quickly. >> we're not going to have the attention span to remember this. how about this latest poll from gallup? 56% of you out there disapprove of the a aaffordable care act. there's going to be zero forgiveness. >> that's the tippy top of disapproval. that's the largest number of americans who haven't liked it. and the critical number is only 33% of people who identify themselves as politically independent like it. people don't like it and now that we're learning more about how it was made, people are liking it even less. >> they certainly don't like the fact that someone said we're too smart and you're too dumb. we know what's best. the only way to sneak this in is to undermine -- go ahead and just get in there and throw a hoax at you because we know what's better because we're smart and you're not. the american people aren't buying that. unfortunately, they're buying plans they don't want to. >> he's going to be in front of congress and also senator rand paul on hannity said i think we want that 400-plus dollars back because of the way you handled it and the way you did it and you ultimately came out and said that you deceived the american public and bragged about it. coming up straight ahead -- >> the president vows executive action to push his immigration plan forward. one g.o.p. lawmaker has a way to stop it in his tracks. live next. >> convicted serial killer charles manson may soon be getting married. how does that happen? 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now one lawmaker says he has a plan to stop the president once and for all. here to explain, congressman from arizona matt salmon. he is a republican. good morning to you, matt. >> good morning. congressman, tell me about the letter you sent off. >> the letter that we sent last week instructs the chairman of the appropriations committee on our side and then the appropriations committee on the senate side in our funding bill to put language in that says no money in here can be used for the president's executive amnesty. >> there wouldn't be money available to -- >> no money. >> -- to deport people essentially. how much does it cost not to do something? >> well, the cost of doing it is blatantly breaking the constitution. this is exactly what our founding fathers envisioned when they gave us exclusively the power of the purse. when we're at an impasse with the president, when the president wants to go off road, this is the only option that we have to be able to stop him. he can do things through executive order but we will not provide the funding for him so he cannot get him past. >> what's curious in the past we've heard the president of the united states say i can't do what he's about to do. >> he said it countless time. when he was speaking to la raza a couple of years ago he said i'd love to be able to do whatever i want to do but that's not the way things work. that's not the way our constitution work. now suddenly he believes differently. i don't think he believes differently. i think he's basically thinking i'm going to do whatever i want to do. i'm president. the election never happened. i rule this place regardless of what the people say. >> right now about half the country, as i just told you, congressman and everybody else listening, would like the president to wait. what's the hurry, really? but what a lot of people are wondering is you've sent off this letter and you said let's cut off the money to do this. all right, if he doesn't and he goes forward, then what are you going to do? are you one of the republicans who would like to shut dow the government? >> no, i don't believe that a shutdown would be productive. but i do believe that there are a lot of people on the senate side that are bluffing and blustering right now and i believe that if we give them a bill that defunds the president's ability to do this, i believe there are a lot of democrats that saw what happened in the last election when they don't listen to the people, and i believe that things will turn out well if we just simply have a stiff spine and do what we're supposed to do. >> he said last week, i hear you, regarding the midterms. if he really hears americans, he heard the latest poll and he knows half the country doesn't want him to go ahead. >> if he doesn't listen, he does it at his own peril. i think that's something we need to put on his plate. >> all right. the plate is full, getting fuller. 18 minutes after the top of the hour. congressman, thank you for joining us live. good luck to you. coming up on this tuesday, a grand jury decision in ferguson, missouri, can come at any moment and now a state of emergency has been declared by the governor as businesses and police officers brace for potential trouble. a ferguson store owner joins us live with how he is preparing just in case. it's the best video you're going to see all day. america's favorite singing family, the viral family, takes on turkey day. ♪ on thanksgiving day ♪ i think it's really true ♪ that i can make it two quick headlines. british police on high alert at this hour. authorities have been told not to wear their uniforms to and from work over fears they may be targeted by terrorists. cops also being told to be extra careful on social media because jihadists are combing instagram, twitter and facebook for victims. the government worries terror groups may be planning another attack similar to the public murder of a british soldier. 80-year-old convicted killer charles manson is about to marry a 26-year-old. she abandoned her life in illinois nine years ago to live near manson's prison and clear his name. manson and his followers killed seven people including actress sharon tate. >> we have a fox news alert for you now. the governor of missouri activating the national guard and declaring a state of emergency as we await a grand jury decision in the shooting death of michael brown. the f.b.i. sending out warnings as protesters prepare for violence regardless of the decision. how is the city preparing? jay, thanks for being with us this morning as we wait for the jury decision here. most people are anticipating violence. what's the tone? >> well, it's anxiety. a high helpful of anxiety -- a high level of anxiety about the decision and what might happen once that decision comes down. >> what steps are being taken? i know the governor has the national guard saying they're ready to stand in to assist local authorities should anything occur which everyone is anticipating. are you confident? are the small businesses confident that will help them? spoil the businesses in ferguson after the last -- >> the businesses in ferguson after the last looting want to see for themselves that things will be different this time. i think the entire area learned some lessons and they hope that it will be, but they are actively preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. >> everyone understands the right to peacefully protest, but we understand, and as the national guard is now deployed this, that violence is anticipated. when that does occur, has there been training for business owners? are there funds to help them during these times? >> i know a number of the businesses that i represent have already started securing their stores not just with boarding up the windows but with doing more than that and making those preparations on their own. these were the stores that were hit the worst last time around and they just can't afford another round of looting and violence. in terms of what's being done, the community as a whole is preparing. we truly are hoping for the best. >> sure. we saw photos yesterday of the die-in protest with bodies chalked on the ground there and everyone is literally holding their breath. but as it relates to business in general, a, safety is of grave concern. secondly, this is the livelyhood of so many individuals. how are they to recover post this decision? >> i don't know that they can recover, some of them. they'll be gone. business right now for many of them is down 50, 60, 70 percent from where they were in august of this year. if there is another round of violence, another round of extended protests like we had then, most of those businesses along that route will close up shop forever. >> as we await the jury's decision, we thank you, jay, for joining us from an area that has faced already too much violence. thank you. coming up this morning, more than 200 million americans waking up to a record freeze and snow. in the chill talking about it now, maria molina is live from right inside that storm affecting the entire country straight ahead as she trudges through inches and inches of snow and wind. and they clean planes after every flight but a new investigation reveals what is left behind and the results, they're a large. first happy birthday to actor owen wilson. he is 46 years old today. he is 46 years old today. ♪ when diet and exercise aren't enough, he is 46 years old today. ♪ adding crestor lowers bad cholesterol up to 55%. yeah! crestor is not for people with liver disease or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor all medicines you take. call your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness, feel unusually tired, have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark urine, or yellowing of skin or eyes. these could be signs of serious side effects. are you down with crestor? ask your doctor about crestor. . at the g-20 summit this weekend politicians took a break from saving the world to do a couple of photo ops. check out these three world leaders who have never shaken hands before. what? >> put your hand on red and left hand on yellow. at one point they took a break to pose for pictures holding a koala bear. vladimir putin and tony abbott with koalas. here's one with president obama with a koala. check this out. >> hilarious. the way they did the handshake. >> that could have been the most awkward -- >> i don't think it's done like that. >> can we play the beginning of that again. >> can we play that? [sound of buzzer] >> i think i'm asking you to dance. >> now i feel like the koala that putin had. >> isn't the koala the thing that hugs us. what's the other thing that hugs us? it's got three fingers. it's a big hugger. yeah, the sloth. if you've been hugged by a sloth and a koala, what was better? if you can write us. >> we're going to need some hugs because it's getting cold. >> it is getting cold. peskt -- perfect transition. moreamericans waking up to a freeze and snow. and maria, we sent you there because it is going to snow and jackpot, it's snowing. >> we knew it was going to be a really bad storm here. we arrived in buffalo, new york, last night and conditions have deteriorated. we were expecting two to three feet of snow and the forecast is for this to continue over the next several days not only off of lake erie but off of lake ontario and others as well. we're seeing significant lake-effect snow and it is very early in the season. it is only november so the lakes are relatively warm and it's slide a lot of energy for these storms to continue to produce such significant snowfall. we're seeing snowfall coming down at a rate of three, even five inches per hour. very persistent snow out here and we're even hearing reports now that parts of interstate 90 have been shut down. that's what we're hearing. it's very dangerous out here. conditions are not good to be on the road and people are urged to stay home, stay off the roads. we're seeing wind gusts over 45 miles per hour out here and that's what's producing those whiteout conditions. on the radar you can see snow moving over the great lakes. very cold arctic air moving over the relatively warmer lakes producing such a potentially historic snowstorm out here across parts of upstate new york and temperatures setting records down to the southeast and also the plains, we're looking at about 200 million people waking up to temperatures below freezing. very early in the season. it's only november. this is a little unusual. but again, we're going to continue to monitor the situation here. we're in pembroke about 17 miles east of buffalo. we had to come here because our truck had issues driving to buffalo. it's cold, very windy, whiteout conditions and even thunder and lightning with some of these snow squalls coming off the lakes. let's head to you in new york. >> maria molina, as you can see, plenty of lake-effect snow and what not and freezing temperatures across the country. it is a good morning to watch cable. >> the good news is though, heather nauert, as you know, the people in buffalo can handle it. at five years old they drive trucks in this. they can handle it. >> pretty much. i talked to some of my friends back in the midwest. they said the lakes had already frozen over, which is pretty early for this. >> that just means hockey. >> i have news to bring you also out of the midwest. it is a fox news alert. there is a pilot who is missing this morning after crashing a small plane into this home near chicago's midway airport. officials say that the pilot reported engine trouble right after takeoff, tried to return to the airport but didn't make it. this happened about 3 a.m. local time. that plane reportedly crashed through the roof ending up in the basement. two elderly residents were able to escape their home with the help of neighbors. emergency crews are still trying to locate that pilot. he was the only person on board. actually i should say he or she. today the vote for the keystone pipeline goes to the senate floor but louisiana senator marry landrieu and other supporters are stuck at 59 votes which is one shy of a super majority. all senate republicans and some democrats support the bill. the white house passing an identical bill that was sponsored by congressman bill cassidy. he is landrieu's run-off opponent but the vote is seen as a last ditchest to try to save her seat. even if it passes, the white house says president obama will veto it. if you're getting ready to travel for the holidays, you may want to bring purell for the plane. there are studies that show everything from the airport bins to seat belts are crawling with dangerous infectious germs. and the worst offender? >> the tray tables often had a large number ofs of bacteria. we found influenza virus because they are not cleaned between every flight. >> they say bring a lot of hand sanitizer and bacterial wipes to wipe down the tray tables and everything else around. call it a last-minute way to create a holiday feast. there are thanksgiving-flavored potato chips. they're manufactured by a boulder company called boulder canyon. the chips have all the fictionin's, stuffing -- the chips have all the fixin's. look at all the stuff. available at target. >> monday night football, we'll review what they finished. the tennessee titans holding the steelers. the steelers staging a massive come-back in the fourth. 27-24. marilyn -- marlon carlo, 25 just signed the richest contract in sports history, an opt out after six years. if stanton stays for the duration heel be -- he'll be 37 years old. as justin timberlake says what goes around comes all the way back around. ♪ ♪ >> his favorite team, the memphis grizzlies are the team to beat after lighting up the rockets 119-93 but one fan taking a jab at justin accusing him of being a band wagoner on twitter. timberlake's response, epic. i'm from memphis. and i'm an owner. anyone else? i'm a band wagon, i'm an investor. >> remember last christmas we played a great parody by a family in raleigh, north carolina and it was called christmas jammies and it was hilarious. you know the song now by meghan trainor called "all about the bass." they have used that song to depict what goes on in homes across america at thanksgiving. the mom, the woman prepares the turkey, they say. and the dad prepares the baste. here they are. ♪ ♪ i'm all about ♪ that baste ♪ more butter ♪ on thanksgiving day ♪ i think it's ♪ really true ♪ dads can't make it ♪ like they're supposed ♪ to do ♪ the dining room ♪ we have no taste ♪ all the wrong forking ♪ in all the wrong place ♪ all about the baste the family offering a new parody for us. we want you to send us your horror stories, how to avoid them, anything that happened in the past with your baste. we want to know. send it on facebook, twitter, e-mail and we will share them all. >> if you have a family parody which the whole family participates in, please send us that. we understand according to reports, they do this full time now. >> nefs tv news for a very long time. -- he was in tv news for a very long time. they were on the program last year. he said they have decided to do the video so they're doing it and that is a catchy tune you're going to have in your head all day. >> your move, weird al. >> coming up? >> starting a business? what if you could learn everything you need to learn at a bar. >> your personal life is interfering with your business. >> it is unnecessary. 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become $5 million. madoff is serving 150 years in jail. videos surfacing of obamacare architect jonathan gruber admitting deception was used to get the bill was passed but is there anything that can do legally to fix it? we're going to ask judge andrew napolitano. >> good morning. welcome back, elisabeth. >> thank you. a lot of people wondering if there is anything the g.o.p. can do now? >> there is two ways to look at it. one is political. the fallout for the democrats has been horrific and rightly so given the intimate involvement professor gruber had with writing the laws and the admissions he's made. the other way is legal and it's really too late in the game for professor gruber's admissions to make their way into the one case remaining, which is a challenge to obamacare. remember, the supreme court already found it constitutional, for better or for worse. i profoundly disagree but that's the law. they're not going to go back and revisit it. but there is a very interesting case they're going to hear this spring involving ambiguity, which is professor gruber's field, as we know. that has to do with whether or not the i.r.s. can grant tax credits to certain people in states where the federal government, not the state government, has set up the exchanges. what's the difference? the statute says in order to get the tax credit the states have to set up the exchanges. bottom line, if the supreme court takes away the tax credit, obamacare will fall of its own weight. there will not be enough cash to compensate the people it was intended to benefit. that will be based on ambiguous draftsmanship. >> you said you disagree with how the supreme court ruled regarding obamacare in the past. mr. gruber said if anybody knew it was a tax, it wouldn't pass. justice roberts actually said it's a tax. so he was right, you know? >> you know, i'm loathe to criticize but i will. here's the thing. if you're in a court and one side says the light is green and the other side says the light is red, the court can't say the light was yellow. you're in the supreme court of the united states. the government says it's not a tax. the people challenging it say it's not a tax. where's the court? we now know that language wag written intention -- was written intentionally to dupe the court. >> because it was a tax. >> in the big picture rand paul hast night said i want to get that 400,000 dollars back gruber got from the government. can he get it back because it was seen as the stupidity of the american public that he got that money? >> i don't think he got that money because of the insults and those insults are profound, the american public is stupid but they can get it back if they found he did more harm than good. house republicans will bring him before a house committee probably now or after christmas and ask him to say under oath what we've seen him say in a half dozen tapes. >> i hope he likes washington because he's going to spend some time there. judge, thank you very much. coming up on this tuesday, want food stamps? you better be looking for a job. that is the rule for anybody collecting entitlements in indiana. governor mike pence of indiana here to explain his controversial new plan to brian. >> struggling to start a business? maybe you need this guy's help. >> your personal life is interfering with your business. >> this is unnecessary. >> i think it is emotional discipline and i think you [bleep] need it. >> okay. >> he is the tough talking show from the hit show "bar rescue." he joins us live next. he joins us now in the studio. hey. ♪ ♪ shopping online is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. start shopping online from a list of top-rated providers. visit angieslist.com today. if you're suffering from constipation or irregularity, powders may take days to work. for gentle overnight relief, try dulcolax laxative tablets. 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that. >> it was. >> because there is business and there is relationships. tell us what happened. >> this was a husband and wife. she ran the front of the restaurant. he was a chef. they got divorced years earlier with a ten-year-old daughter. hadn't spoken to each other in years. so her friends wouldn't go in the restaurant. his friends, because of their wives, wouldn't go in the restaurant and they were family. i had to get them both together again to coexist. they never thought they were going to go to the ball together after. get them to coexist for their daughterrism forced them to work together and the first -- no, no, no. second day they started to -- that was the third day. and by changing the dynamic between them, i turned the business around. >> i like the way you do. it's the tough way. you're like, let's yell about it. like your way, i'm used to that at my house. let's talk about some of the contributions not only with this show helping people survive in a business, but you played a vital role in forming the nfl sunday ticket and made everyone sunday a little better. tell us about that. >> years ago, comsack wanted to hire my company to do a fees county study on out of market sports programming. so if you were in new york, you could buy the dallas signal for a particular game. i put together a business plan, combined the marketing elements and multi-games. they presented my plan to the nfl. the nfl liked it. did it themselves, put me on the advisory board of nfl enterprises and sunday ticket was rolled out. >> wow. >> so i didn't invent the idea, but di create it as it exists. >> you talk to customers and try to make a bar and say, why do they stay? what do they drink? put the game on. finally, you have a new app not to make for profit, but to help people because eight out of ten of these bars go under. tell me about if. >> most bar owners and small business owners manage their business by how much money is in the bank. i created an app that is in their 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it makes a lot of other cards seem one-sided. good morning. it is tuesday, november 18. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert, breaking overnight, a house with two people inside takes a direct hit from a plane. the pilotñi still missing at ths hour. the new images are coming in straight ahead. and he never met a mic he didn't like until now. >> professor, do you really think the american voters are stupid? what about the obamacare, is that just a hoax on the american people? >> watch what happens when the man who sold obamacare faces the fox news cameras. getting the idea. it's the best video you'll see all day. ♪ because you know i'm all about that bass, about that bass ♪ ♪ more butter, more butter ♪ that base, that baste, about that baste ♪ ♪ more butter >> all about that baste, about that baste. it's america's favorite viral video family taking on turkey day and your thanksgiving stories are pouring in. there is a lot to gobble up this hour. so put down that remote. you're watching "fox & friends". >> i'm raquel welch and you're watching "fox & friends". and welcome aboard. brian was down in texas. you know that this arctic plunge is significant. it was freezing down there. >> it was. but there is nothing we can handle that's back up to 60, 70. your daughter would know that. but people were stunned. i think i'm the bad news. the last time i was there for a significant period of time, dallas had the super bowl, people were hydroplaning. >> it could be you. >> it could be me. i think they had ice and sleet, no one had snow tires. >> they had to kick you out of there. >> they don't really like me and they like you. >> they could get a couple feet of snow in new new york state. right now we turn to heather nauert who has a fox news alert. >> very serious news coming from overseas. overnight, palestinian terrorists who are armed with knives, guns and axes storming a synagogue, killing at least four jewish worshipers there who were praying inside. one of those who was killed was an american citizen. the two suspects were shot dead by police. the group hamas says the attack is revenge for the death of a palestinian bus driver. secretary of state john kerry is calling it an act of pure terror. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says israel will respond with a heavy respond. back here at home, another fox news alert, a pilot is missing this morning after crashing a small plane into this home near chicago's midway airport this morning. officials say that the pilot reported engine trouble right after takeoff, tried to return to the airport, but didn't make it. all of this happening around 3:00 a.m. local time. two elderly residents who were inside that home were able to escape with the help of neighbors. emergency crews are still trying to locate the pilot. but as of now, the house is too unstable to search inside. that missing pilot was the only person on board that plane. ferguson, missouri bracing for chaos. the governor of that state, jay nixon, declaring a state of emergency as we await a grand jury decision in the shooting death of michael brown. he announced the national guard has been activated and, quote, support law enforcement during any period of unrest that might occur. the f.b.i. also releasing a statement saying that violence is likely following that grand jury decision. matthew mcconaghey is returning to the stage for the sequel of "magic mike." he originally said he wouldn't do it, but he was such a fan favorite as dallas that he couldn't help but perform it again for everyone. the announcement comes on the heels of getting a star on the hollywood walk of fame yesterday. let's give it your best all right, all right, all right. >> all right, all right, all right. >> normally you're better than that. >> all right, all right, all right. >> all right, all right, all right. >> i'm still trying to figure out "interstellar." he's dumbing it down for me. >> it was an hour too long. >> but he lives, right? this morning more than 200 million americans waking up to a record freeze and snow. maria molina is live in upstate new york. that area now getting hit by more than a foot. we can barely see you there. you're getting pelted with snow. what else can you tell us? >> yeah. we have some extreme conditions up here in upstate new york. our cameraman was cleaning the lens so you can hopefully see the scene because it's just incredible. we're looking at feet of snow coming down in a very short amount of time. this is all part of a much bigger story. it's an arctic blast impacting about 200 million americans early this morning. so they're looking at temperatures that are below freezing very early in the season. it's only november. we're seeing some very cold air from canada dipping down and impacting portions of the gulf coast. take a look at those current temperatures. you can see how cold it is out there this morning. that's without factoring the wind. so in areas where you have a bit of a breeze or some windy conditions, you're going to be look at significant windchill temperatures, as much as ten to 15 degrees colder than what the temperature reads. as the cold air goes over the relatively warmer lakes, you're looking at a very significant lake effect snow event occurring off of the great lakes. parts of michigan, new york, and where we are. we have a lake effect snow warning in effect not only for today, but the next few days because we'll continue to see feet of snow accumulating. something also very unique that you can call some of this weather out here when you have very convective snowfall is thunder snow. we saw a lot of that last night in buffalo, new york. take a look at this video. you can see a flash of lightning and that does tend to occur when you have very convective systems producing such significant snowfall. so it's really just like a regular thunderstorm, but it's so cold out that instead of it being rainfall, you're looking at heavy snow. so that's what we're looking at here just east of buffalo, new york. this is an area that is used to dealing with significant snow. but this is even a lot for buffalo. we saw snowplow off the road, trucks off the road. many car accidents. so please be careful out there across the region while you're seeing those areas of heavy snow. almost 50% of the u.s. is currently snow covered. let's head back to you in new york. >> all right. thank you very much from convective to invective, jonathan gruber thinks we're stupid. >> he does. and the american people will not have it. the president denying he was a major player and he challenged the media to look back at the debate over obamacare over the years and you will find that that was not true, or was that not the case? another video now surfacing actually where gruber is actually saying that he was part of it all, that the american people don't have the attention span to get through it, and now the president actually on camera as well saying that gruber is pathetic. he pulled some of his ideas and stole them and our own david webb went to go talk to gruber and all of a sudden, he was silent. >> you had lots to say to the media. what about talking to us? we just want to talk to you. >> no thank you. >> do you think the american people would have actually bought into obamacare without all the deception for the cbo scoring? >> i have no comment. >> if you're telling the truth, why are you apologizing as you did for being honest about what was done to get obamacare passed? >> i have no comment. >> professor, come on, one last chance. let's have a conversation. professor, do you really think the american voters are stupid? >> no comment. >> what about the web of lies to a web of david. >> yeah. of course he said the lack of transparency used to your advantage, the stupidity of the american people, they have a short memory. yet the president of the united states did to jonathan gruber what most democratic candidates two weeks ago. they froing they voted for the president. they forgot they voted for his policies and again, the democratic strategy is when confronted with a horrific truth, it's easy to deny it ever happened. however, the problem is he's visited the white house 12 times and known to sit with the president one on one many times. even david axelrod said he played a vital role even though he said his comments were stupid, he said he played a positive role in the construction of obamacare. there is a problem between truth and reality and they're counting on you not to pay attention. pay attention. >> $400,000 he was paid for that work. >> and made millions. >> that's right. shifting gears here, louisiana senator mary landrieu's front yard becoming center stage for a keystone pipeline protest. more than two dozen activists assembling complete with an inflatable pipeline, if you can believe that. this coming as a vote to begin construction on the oil pipeline hits the senate floor today. the president has vowed to veto the bill if it crosses his desk. peter doocy is live in washington where supporters are scrambling to get the super majority. what is the very latest? and good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. the latest is that right now there are 59 senators who are publicly pledging to vote for the keystone xl pipeline today. if one more senator supports its construction, then the measure passes. it's filibuster proof and will head to the president's desk. once it gets there, a veto could be on the way. >> one major determinant of whether we should approve a pipeline shipping canadian oil to world markets, not to the united states, is does it contribute to the greenhouse gasses that are causing climate change? >> reporter: today's vote could also determine if louisiana's senate seat stays blue or turns red. there is a runoff the first week of december and democratic senator mary landrieu, who is behind in the polls, is hoping a successful vote will help her keep her job. even if she does, the republicans have a majority in the next senate and it might be enough to passkey stone whether the president likes it or not. >> my own view is eventually we are going to be successful here because when we had the republican majority, we will not only have 60 votes, we will have mid 60s, which gets very close to overriding a president's veto. >> reporter: so even if today's measure fails or passes and then gets vetoed, the new republican senate majority plans to try again with their beefed up numbers in january or february. back to you in new york. >> busy day on capitol hill regarding keystone. peter, thank you very much. meanwhile, remember the family that came out with their christmas jammies video last year? well, the family of raleigh, north carolina, professional video makers, they've got a new one. it's all about the baste, regarding thanksgiving. watch. ♪ i'm all about that baste, about that baste ♪ ♪ thanks, baste ♪ on thanksgiving day ♪ i think it's really true ♪ a dad can make it, make it ♪ like they're supposed to do ♪ the dining room, room, room. ♪ we put all the wrong forks and all the wrong plates ♪ >> things go haywire on thanksgiving as the family here is depicting. we asked you for your examples and you heated up the e-mail machine. >> you sure have. it's stuck. joan is saying, i spent one week carving soup bowls out of gourds. 36 of them, and then i burned the soup and didn't serve it at all. sorry about that. >> mildred has facebook and says we always took a picture of our thanksgiving table and one year our beloved cat jumped up on the table and gnawed the leg off the turkey. no dark meat that year. >> that's like our dog, charlie, actually jumped up on the table and pulled the whole turkey off on the floor. >> wow. >> we washed it. it was fine. >> majerle has nothing on charlie. >> i think i forgot the stuffing depletely one year. >> you forgot the stuffing? >> yeah. where is the stuffing? >> at least you didn't leave the plastic bag this there. >> keep the stories coming. 13 minutes after the top of the hour on this tuesday. coming up, we just learned just days after we learned about the hoax used to pass obamacare, another rate hike is on the way. is there any way out of this law? neurosurgeon and potential presidential detainee ben carson, joins us live next. and billions of your tax dollars down the drain. the big mistake and how the feds are trying to explain it all. ♪ i'm all about that baste, about that baste ♪ ♪ on thanksgiving day ♪ i think it's really great ♪ a dad can make it, make it ing obamacare, dr. gruber revealed, they tricked us. now they're charging us. days after we exposed the hoax the democrats used to pass the affordable care act, we're learning of more double digit premium rate hikes in eight states coming up in the next year. >> see them right there on the map. is there anything that the american people can do to reverse this trend and make things right? joining us now is pediatric neurosurgeon and potential 2016 presidential candidate, dr. ben carson. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> always great to have you here. >> thank you. >> i love that introduction, by the way. >> pretty cool. >> is there anything that we can do right now as americans, feeling as though the wool was pulled over our eyes and this is just a big hoax forced upon us? >> we begin to ask the question, is there such a thing as morality left in this country? is there such a thing as right and wrong? does that mean anything anymore, or is it just who can pull the slickest deal and who can pull the wool over people's eyes? if morality does mean something to us, we should stop, our congress should stop and say, now that we know what's in this bill and now that we know that there has been a lot of subterfuge involved here, let's rediscuss it and let's vote again. >> i thought this was an opportunity for democrats to say, that's not what i was told about this bill. and for guys like angus king when he was on, he should be equally outraged if there was a moral foundation to politics. am i dreaming to think there is? >> well, let's hope that some democrats will come out and actually talk about that, talk about what's true, what's right rather than what is politically expedient. it's one of the reasons that i've said that i will never be a politician, because i don't believe in political expediency. i believe in what's right and wrong. and i think that our country was founded on some of those principles and if we allow this to go through, we'reetting a precedent that says whatever you can do, however you can do it, it's okay, as long as you get it done. >> and as a doctor, your motto is do no harm. we want to play a video of dr. gruber a while back and we want to get your assessment on what he's talking about here. >> i don't think it's the voters in florida don't care about the low income insured. they're misinformed. if we can't politically help explain the cost to society of cutting provider rates, of cutting back medicaid, i think we get the majority of people to support strengthening that program. i think it's just because of racial reasons, other things, we haven't managed to get through with that message. >> they can't get through the message because of racial reasons. what's he talking about there? >> that's always the fallback position. if nothing else is working, then let's call it racism, or let's call it sexism or whatever. i think the american people are a little smarter than that. i think they are really underestimating the intelligence of the people. >> we're glad you said that this morning, dr. carson. thank you for being here. media doctor will be in the white house in 2016. >> thank you for joining us in our waiting room. now this, she was at wal-mart when her infant stopped breathing. coming up next, meet the hero teen who came to the rescue and saved her life. dr. carson, you would like that story. ♪ ♪ what can your fidelity greenline do 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dane in pennsylvania. the owners had no idea that she was pregnant with so many little ones there. the average this great dane litter is usually about eight puppies per litter. eight stories, that's the height of the world's largest hd screen lighting up for the very first time tonight in times square. the length of a football field and the most expensive ad space in the united states. $2.5 million a month. that will cost. steve, a great story you have there. >> i do indeed. take a look, folks, at this. shocking video shows a mother struggling to revive her 11-month-old daughter who stopped breathing last wednesday inside a missouri wal-mart. one of the employees at wal-mart called 911. >> they are needing cpr right now. no pulse, no breathing. >> is there somebody on scene there that knows how to do cpr? >> that was the question, was there somebody there who knew how to do cpr? the answer is yes. there was a 17-year-old high school senior who was shopping a couple aisles over, abbey snodgrass. she seen the commotion, ran to the rescue. emergency workers say that she saved the girl's life. she joins us right now from st. louis. abbey, thank you very much for joining us this morning. so you're just doing some shopping last wednesday. what did you hear a couple aisles over? >> i heard over the associate's radio that there was some kind of emergency over in electronics. >> so what did you do? >> my first reaction was just to run over there. >> so you ran over there and what did you see? >> at first i really couldn't see a whole lot pause there was a pretty decent size crowd. and as soon as i got through the crowd, i saw it was actually a little baby girl. at first i thought it was like some kind of adult or something, but it ended up being a little girl. >> and at that point the baby was not breathing. did somebody say, does anybody here know how to do cpr? >> no. when i walked over there, the first thing i asked was if anyone knew cpr. and the one wal-mart associate that was holding the baby, she said that she used to be a nurse a long time ago, but told me to go ahead and do cpr. >> okay. now for you to be the one to do the cpr, that is a big responsibility. but you had just learned how to do cpr in school a couple of weeks earlier, right? >> yes. >> that's amazing. how lucky. one of the problems with an 11-month-old baby, it's a completely different kind of cpr than you would use on an adult, right? >> yes. >> so what do you do? >> when the wal-mart associate firsthanded me the baby, i put her on my forearm and held her head in my hand and started doing chest compressions with two fingers on her chest. then i would flip her over onto her stomach still in on my arm and do the ones on the back and flip her over again and do them on her chest. >> that's exactly how they teach you thousand do it. while you were doing that, what were you thinking? >> while it was happening, the only thought that crossed my mind was what if it didn't work? but i pushed it out of my mind 'cause i knew i had to keep going whether or not. >> yeah. how long until the baby started breathing? >> i couldn't really tell you exactly how long. the time was so distorted. but it probably was about a minute. >> that family is so lucky. i know they reached out to you. they had a statement on facebook thanking you for that. you're such a brave person to run toward where the commotion is and take charge. but it makes sense because what do you want to do when you grow up? >> i want to be an e.r. doctor some day. >> and right now, are you involved in the national guard? >> yes. i am enlisted in the n guard. >> that's fantastic. all right. abby, it was great that you were in the right place at the right time. you saved a baby's life. congratulations. >> thank you. >> wonderful. and good luck to you. >> thank you. how great is that? meanwhile, 28 minutes after the top of the hour. this morning more than 200 million americans are waking up to a record freeze and snow. we're going to take tout worst hit area -- take you to the worst hit area in america next. and we're talking life, love and kids with the one and only nick lechay. hello, nick. ♪ ♪ we've got a troubling fox news alert. breaking moments ago on that terrorist attack on a jerusalem synagogue, apparently now three of the dead have been identified as americans. conner powell live in jerusalem with the latest. conner? >> reporter: we're finding out now that three of those killed of the four were americans. the fourth was also a british national living here in jerusalem. the attack began sometime about 7:00 a.m. as about 50 or so israelis began their morning prayers in a synagogue in jerusalem when two attackers went into this synagogue. they apparently had knives, axes and a pistol as well. most of the people in the synagogue were able to get out, but several did not. there were at least five or six that were injured and one of the first responders on the scene had this description of the site. >> they stabbed people once and twice, a few times to make sure that they did the job. very bad. very bad. >> reporter: now, police say that two attackers were palestinians from east jerusalem. they again used knives and an ax to attack these israelis that were in the synagogue. tensions have been flaring up here in jerusalem over the past several months, really after the war in gaza between israel and the palestinians there. but also there has been fights over religious spots here in jerusalem and we've seen sort of tit for tat violence here and what we're seeing is that neither side is calling for calm. there have been escalations in the language that's used here by both sides. there is real concern that we're going to see violence here that we haven't seen in probably more than a decade or so, steve. >> all right. conner powell live in jerusalem with the very latest. thank you very much. got to figure there is a real good possibility they were targeted because they were westerners. >> absolutely one would think that. thanks. now we're going to move to heather who is standing by with more of what's happening this morning. >> we've got a lot going on at home. this morning a 29-year-old woman is behind bars. she's in virginia and she's charged with lying to the f.b.i. about possible ties to isis. court papers reveal that she promoted isis on facebook using fake names and talks about making arrangements for her husband to train in syria with that terror group. he backed out when the couple eventually split up. investigators say that the woman offered to make similar arrangements for an undercover agent. the hatchet attack on a new york city police officer has now been declared an act of terrorism. f.b.i. director james comey saying the attack was inspired by isis radical political and ideological views. he warns the threat of home grown terrorism and also lone wolf attacks is in fact rising. >> the primary way in which we worry about them bringing their poison and their savagery to the streets is through motivating people already in the united states to act on their behalf. >> comey adds there is no word if any impending attack on the united states. caught on camera, amazing show of strength in china. a group of passengers saving a woman who is pinned underneath a car. she was riding a motorcycle with her husband when they were hit. she was trapped under the wheels of the car. a crowd of people coming to her rescue, lifting up that car all together. the woman is still recovering at the hospital this morning and lucky to be alive. those are your headlines. >> thank you very much. busy morning. this morning as you get up, millions of you are going to wake up and it's going to be really cold. a deep freeze across much of the land and some spots of america going to wind up with two feet of snow. maria molina has been dispatched to upstate new york where you need a shovel. >> yeah. big-time shovel and a snowplow as well. we're here just east of buffalo, new york, where we have some significant lake effect snow occurring. this is a part of a bigger story. we have an arctic blast currently taking place across the country where many americans, about 200 million americans, are waking up to temperatures that are below freezing this morning. we could be looking at record low temperatures being set out there early this morning and this cold air reaching areas as far south as parts of the gulf coast. that cold air, when it moves over the great lakes, the lakes at this time of year are relatively much warmer. so that means significant snowfall occurring off the great lakes. we're looking at snowfall here that could be measured in feet. we already have more than a foot of snow. we're also looking at wind gusts over 45 miles per hour. that creates whiteout conditions. take a look at this video we shot earlier this morning. it was us driving to meet up with our truck to be able to broadcast to you and we saw incredible conditions, whiteout conditions, very dangerous out there. we saw trucks off the road and even a snowplow that was off the road. so that's just how dangerous the conditions are out here. we're also hearing that parts of interstate 90 have been shut down and the snow out here is forecast to last for several days. this could potentially be a historic storm for places like buffalo and also areas off of lake ontario. let's head over to you in new york. >> all right. maria molina joining us live from the snow belt. nick lechay joins us, remind you of growing up in sine? >> a little bit. >> did you get out and shovel? >> only because i was forced to. yes. if i wanted to get an allowance, i had to shovel. >> you can't just say it, you had to build character. >> but you never shied away from working hard. right now you have a lot going on. you have the big morning buzz live show. you have a new show coming out with your brother. what's that about? >> opening a sports bar and restaurant in cincinnati, our hometown. we're doing a show on a and e documenting the whole process leading up to it. >> so you're gog have beer and flat screens. do you need anything else? >> a 90-inch flat screen. very excited. more than anything for that. i'm going to watch all the big games. >> wait a minute. don't you think your wife, who is carrying your second baby, probably going to be a daughter -- where is my husband? oh, he's at the bar working. >> look at this cute picture. this is you. is this camden? >> s that. we went on her birthday to disneyland. we took him to disneyland for his first time. a moment to make him feel special before his sister comes. we had a great time. >> you were okay with putting on the ears, right? >> absolutely. i had my name -- we went all out. >> you'll have a new set of rules with a little girl who is going to fall in love with you? >> you always hear about the relationship between dads and their daughters. i'm excited to experience that firsthand. but it's also terrifying in a whole nother way that a son isn't. going to the ball game. >> let me ask but this, there is a new study out that says that if you have children, it's actually good for your career because they found that if man put down on an application, i belong to the pta, they'd wind up in the long run, getting a raise, whereas women actually are paid less. so this is good for your career. >> well, i'm probably not a good barometer 'cause i did a lullaby cd. >> tell us about this new album. i guess you still call them albums, dvds. you think now that you're married, more people should buy this. >> that's right. this is a cover album, always wanted to do a cover project. so this is all cover songs from movie sound tracks called "sound track of my life." all movies and songs that were meaningful to me growing up. >> like what? >> "falling slowly" from the movie" once." it was a special song for vanessa and i. we had it performed at our wedding shower. that's on there. 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"don't want to miss a thing." >> let's hear one of the songs. ♪ and i don't want the world to see me ♪ ♪ 'cause i don't think that they'd understand ♪ ♪ . >> after that we got to start paying for it. >> you're a good sport to do that. >> what about hawaii 5-0. ♪ ♪ >> did you think about putting that on? >> no. but i did have a guest starring role in "hawaii 5-0". the in your one. >> are you all about the baste on thanksgiving? >> it's so funny. that was one of the most brilliant things i've ever seen. all about the baste. i'm a deep frying turkey preparer. >> really? >> he's all about the fry, about the fry. >> new album for you. >> do you fry your turkey and then hand out stridex pads. >> congratulations. >> thank you so much. >> we look forward to seeing you working at your sports bar. >> next time you're in cincinnati, come down. i'll buy you a round. >> they're all showing up. >> thanks. coming up on this tuesday, want government assistance? well, you have to work. that's the new rule in indiana. that state's governor, mike pence, here to explain why it's going to work. and are you bundling up the kids before putting them in their car seats? a new report says you are making a dangerous, very dangerous mistake. first today's trivia question, born on this day in 1970, this fox news host was named to time magazine's top 100 influential people of 2014. who is she? be the first to e-mail us with the correct answer. >> 1970? ♪ ♪ fact. fast-acting advil is designed with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core technology stopping headaches and other tough pain. fast. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil. so i'm the one living and i've listened to the tips, the trends and have-you-tried-this. now, i'm ready for someone to listen to me. welcome to fit2me.com, your free custom-fit, diabetes support program that actually listens to you. start building your fit2me program today using key areas of diabetes management. let's start with food. mexican? asian? italian! want recipes that reduce calories? or carbs? which activity feels more like you? cardio? or couch curls? choose a digital coach. tough love? or a gentle nudge? you can even get a tool kit with treatment options to discuss with your doctor. fit2me also inspires you through games and team challenges. so what kind of plan will i stick with? my plan! get your plan. go to fit2me.com and enter the on-screen code word to get started. ♪ i thought it'd be bigger. ♪ ♪ (dad) there's nothing i can't reach in my subaru. (vo) introducing the all-new subaru outback. love. it's what makes a subaru,a subaru. it's about 15 minutes to the top of the hour. some headlines for you here. don't overbundle your kids before putting them in a car seat. tests showing that puffy coats create too much space between the straps, leaving a loose harness, which could lead to a child being thrown from the seat in a crash. experts say cover up with a blanket instead. good advice. and eat less for more brain power. scientists say restricting your calorie in take by 30% stabilizes the genes in your memory, forming areas of your brain. if you want food stamps, you may have to work for them. the state of indiana is reinstating rules that will require at least 20 hours of work a week for some benefits for people to get benefits. the changes could potentially cut off 65,000 recipients when they go in to effect next year. but can the state handle the new influx of job seekers? joining us right now is the governor of indiana, republican mike pence. governor, so you're saying if you want food stamps and you are single without dependents, you have to work for them? what do you mean? >> it's exactly right. the good news is here in indiana, we've got a real success story in our economy, brian. when i became governor, unemployment was over 8%. it's 5.7% today. we've seen our labor force grow by 50,000. we just thought it was very important to go back to a core principle of welfare reform in the 1990s and say that for able-bodied adults without dependents to receive food stamps that they have to be working at least 20 hours a week or participating for 20 hours a week in one of our job training programs here in the state of indiana. we want people working or training for work or looking for work to be eligible for these food stamps. and the good news is there is lots of jobs available in indiana and we're just very anxious to make sure that able-bodied adults find a pathway into being able to stand on their own two feet. >> how do you feel about people say, well, you're targeting poor people. don't they have it bad enough? now they got to go out and do service just to get things that they paid when they were working taxes into the state for? >> i'm someone that really believes there is nothing more enobling to a person than a job. and to make sure that able-bodied adults without dependents at home know that here in the state of indiana, we want to partner with them in their own success. it's the old story about give someone a fish, they'll eat for a day. teach them to fish, they'll eat for a lifetime. i think is an idea whose time has come here in the state of indiana. again, i would say to you, brian, many of your viewers would know this was part of welfare reform back in the 1990s. it's in the law today for food stamps, but many states, including indiana, waived this requirement during the great recession in 2009. but with a growing economy in the hoosier state, we believe the time has come to reinstitute for able-bodied adults without dependents this requirement that they're either working or they're in job training. we think that's great for them and we think obviously it's a great foundation for a growing indiana economy. >> governor mitch daniels is very popular in indiana and doing so well. people pushed him to run for president. he pushed back. now your track report and report card looks good and people are pushing you to run. when is that something you will decide if that's something you want to do? >> evidenced by this policy, we're talking about today, my focus is indiana. i'm always flattered to be mentioned for the highest office in the land. but we're going to stay focused on a growing economy here in indiana. we're taking steps to run for reelection. we'll probably make a decision about our future sometime next spring. but with a long session of our legislature up ahead, with lots of opportunities to build on the momentum we have here in indiana, i'm going to stay focused on the future of the people of our state and we'll let my future take care of itself. >> okay. we'll see how this goes 'cause the rest of the country has been watching indiana's success story. governor, thanks so much. >> thank you, brian. coming up straight ahead, we change gears. why work when you can play all day? cheryl casone is here with a job opening that has you working like one of santa's elves. on this date in 1957, elvis had the number one song in america called "jailhouse rock." it was much different then. it was black and white. ♪ ♪ bells♪ remember when christmas was magical? let's get back there. at bass pro shops' santa's wonderland, kids can get a free picture with santa. and you can save on great gifts, like kids' jumbo adventure play sets for under $20. we are so glad you're with us. it's time to answer today's trivia question. the answer is megyn kelly. we love her. congratulations to carey iowa. she will get a copy of brian kilmeade's book. well, 'tis the season for hiring. that is why cheryl casone from our sister network, fox business, is here with the top companies hiring for the holidays. a lot of people looking for some extra work or work in general as we move into holiday season. >> i say get the job for the discount. you know what i mean? i did that when i was in school. there are so many jobs out this year. you're going to know the name. wal-mart. of course. 60,000 jobs. >> what kind of jobs. >> they need people to work in the stock room, cashiers, sales floors, everything else. wal-mart, 25% of last year's seasonal hires stayed with the company full time and actually these turned into permanent jobs. all the companies i've got for the holidays are going to continue to hire through december. some of these guys are going to end up hiring the day before christmas. they just don't know what they're going to get. if they're going to get flooded at the store. >> they want to be prepared. if you want to be the hero of your kids, toys r us. >> right. i think brian does play all day and doesn't really work. that's just my opinion. >> he's protesting. >> but he had a point. if you want to play all day, play with toys, it's getting crazy in toys r us in the holiday season. it is every year. but they're hiring. >> there is employee discounts. >> exactly. 45,000 and 20% of their last year's work force permanent this year. >> great to know that. shutterfly. >> photo books. these are the manufacturing jobs we talk about during that big jobs report we cover every month. 4,000 seasonal positions and a lot of these again are going to be convertd into full time positions. these are people that can work to help make the photo books that will be on your christmas table. >> they have so many new products. i just got a catalog with all their options. j.c. penney? >> finally, j.c. penney. so big holiday season for them. they need this to be good. 35,000 people and they usually add about 20 to 25% personnel for each store across the country. you do get the discount. also really quick, they have something which i actually like. if you want to walk into the store and you think, oh, i'd like to work part-time here, they've kiosk, applicant kiosk. instead of having to go home and go to the web site, you can do everything right there at a kiosk. i think a lot of companies should start doing that. kind of makes it a faster process to get you hired. >> yeah. they also are look for jewelry specialists. thank you. you don't want to miss cheryl on the "fox business" network. we sure don't. to find it in your area g to foxbusiness.com/channelfinder. thanks. >> watch out, get brian to work a little harder the rest of the show. >> head over to the casone exchange. take a listen to this, he never met a mic he didn't like until now. >> professor, do you really think the american voters are stupid? 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and those are your headlines. >> can't be a band wagon if you own the team. they call that wagon, you own that wagon. >> thanks a lot. >> thanks. if you're look for laura ingraham over the weekend, does anyone know where she was? >> yes indeed. you were traveling, weren't you? >> alabama, you were at the big game. >> it's a bucket list. it's a bucket list deal for me, brian. you should know this. my mom was a big bear bryant fan. one of my bucket list things was meet nick saban before a game and i was blessed to meet the coach briefly. i gave him a little advice on the offensive line and he took it, so they won. >> i think he should listen to you more often. >> what the heck? >> i didn't know you were much of a blocker. i know you're a verbal tackler. >> offensive tackle. no safety for me. >> you're on the offense on twitter. you have tweeted out -- remember the candy good-byers? we really need a new candy called grubers. they're really expensive with a bitter after taste. >> yeah. you could throw those at the movie theater. they w to throw. goobers. you can throw the grubers and they really hurt. >> they do. not on the inside. it's curious, over the last week or so the white house has been going, we don't know anything about that guy. he was just on the fringe. he had nothing to do with the millions we gave him, until listen to this, this is juicy. here is barak obama back in 2006 talking about -- in fact, bragging about how he stole a bunch of his ideas from guys just like and including professor gruber. >> we've already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles, many of them i've stolen ideas from liberally, people ranging from robert gordon to useston goolsbee, john gruber, jim wallace here, who can talk i think -- who can inform what are sometimes dry policy debates with a prophetic voice. >> there you go. what do you think? >> first of all, it's great to see elisabeth back. elisabeth, it's wonderful to see you. we missed you. >> i've been watching you. >> we missed you so much. but first of all, guys, that is an obama double. that's not really obama. this is his part of the fox news obsession with tearing down obama. so it's really not him. but look, this happens all the time with obama, right? he pretends he didn't say something, then the video surfaces and they try to move on to the next agenda item. and then undoubtedly they will say, we're facing real problems in this country. we need to get americans back to work. and talk radio and certain cable news outlets are just -- they're fanatical on this topic. they're going to go on the attack against anyone who raises this question. but mr. gruber is an ally of this administration, a paid advocate who was sold to us as an objective expert. for all of our friends watching how all these other debates are playing out, like immigration reform, i would remind everyone that when you hear objective expert, be very careful because when they say x is going to happen, usually y or z happens. so it's infuriating. i think the american people understand this now. this is based on a total fraud, obamacare, and now mr. gruber is mysteriously silent, i understand, after fox tried to get him to speak. >> yeah. what i think what really struck home, especially when it broke last week, is everything jonathan gruber said is everything that people were worried about obamacare being. >> right. >> he mentioned it. the lack of transparency, how we were told one thing, but it was something entirely different. >> bingo. >> david webb decides, who is usually serious radio contributor here, i'm going to ask him to answer a few questions. let's see how that went. >> oh, good. >> you've had lots to say to the media. what about talking to us? we just want to talk to you. >> no thank you. >> do you think the american people would have actually bought into obamacare without all the deception for the cbo scoring? >> i have no comment. >> if you're telling the truth, why are you apologizing as you did for being honest about what was done to get obamacare passed? >> i have no comment. >> last chance, let's have a conversation. >> professor, do you really think the american voters are stupid? >> no comment. >> what about the obamacare, is that just a hoax on the american people? >> surprised he didn't talk? >> well, look, someone like a gruber is perfectly happy behind closed doors, guys, trashing the intellect of the american people. >> an ivory tower. >> and so does it surprise me that when he's kind of exposed and all of this is exposed, everybody suddenly clams up? again, i think we all should be very careful about deals struck behind closed doors where there really is no transparency and all these broad proclamations about how certain pieces of legislation are going to expand the economy or lower costs when we the people don't have a bird's eye view into the legislative process, the horse trading that's going on and the real justification for why we're passing particular laws and with obamacare in particular, we were told one thing and it ended up being something completely different. and all of you guys and yours true complete a number of others on this network were proclaiming the truth and were vilified for it. we're not going to get apologies, but i think the people watching may know what time it is. >> it's amazing that the democratic party denied they voted with the president and for the president during the mid terms and that bombed out. now the president is denying one of the architects of obamacare was actually related to the actual construction of the bill which is now a law and that's going to bomb out. i just can't believe he's going to get away. >> we were grubered. all right. thank you very much for joining us today. go do your radio show. roll time. >> we're going to eat these during the commercials. by the way, gruber is -- grubered still trending. >> it sure is. >> meanwhile, a house with two people inside took a direct hit from an airplane. the pilot still missing at this hour. we got breaking news straight ahead. and he's a convicted killer and has ties to terrorism. now he's being allowed back inside the college classroom to teach. ♪ ♪ [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. 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[ tapping ] sounds good. campbell's healthy request. m'm! m'm! good.® finally, the purple pill,hr campbell's healthy request. the #1 prescribed acid blocking brand, comes without a prescription for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. nexium level protection™ have you received the legal advice from the attorney general about what limits you have and what you can do? >> yes. >> would you tell us what those are? >> no. i will tell them when i make the announcement. but it's a good try, though. >> well, it's for me to know and you to find out the hard way it seems to be the administration's line when it comes to immigration and obamacare. did the white house mislead the american public about obamacare. where the heck is the transparency the american people were promised and deserve. joining us is fox news legal analyst, peter johnson, jr. >> it seems in this administration that we are a nation of fools and a government of experts. so now we have the president of the united states saying that somehow the advice rendered to him by the attorney general as to what his constitutional authority is to do executive action on immigration, meaning not clarify the law, but invalidate the laws that are on the books, in my view, that's somehow a secret and that's a cute little secret. so we see it again with professor gruber, the m.i.t. professor, with cute little secrets, with cute little deceptions that i'm smarter than you. you're essentially stupid. we can put this over on you. we can put this over on the federal government. we can get money from massachusetts. we can take care of this and no one will know the difference. and no one will know who i was. >> until now. >> i'm just professor gruber and i only made $6 million and nobody ever heard of me and according to the president of the united states, watch it now -- does the president of the united states know professor gruber? >> the fact that some advisor who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters, is no reflection on the actual process that was run. >> some advisor? that's clintonian in the sense of denial. some advisor was known affectionately as gruber. known by gruber, by pelosi and referred to by the president of the united states and you showed the clip earlier in the day at a function at brookings or one of these outfit where he gives gruber credit for make him smart on this stuff. so he made the president is so smart that the president began to believe, maybe believed before, that the american people were really stupid. we can't have this web of deception. we need transparency in this country. we need the ability to know that if we're being told something, it's truthful. we need to remember the axiom of lincoln. and the president of the united states needs to remember that. you can't fool all the people all the time, especially when people like gruber who makes $6 million want to take credit for everything that you allegedly did. we see this spinning, the spinning going around and around on both issues. on a lighter note, i think we have a sighting of professor gruber. he may be trying to scale the white house walls. so they remind him of who he was. there he is. there is gruber, the $6 million man. >> scaling the wall of truth. >> the secret service will him in? don't know. don't know gruber. don't know what he did. made him 6 million. >> but he can jump. >> i don't know. where in the world is gruber? >> gruber goober. peter johnson, jr. >> steve austin. >> on a serious note, a great reminder to americans on the truth that they deserve. >> it's so funny, but so tragic, too. >> great reminder to the american people. now this, coming up, convicted serial killer charles manson may soon be getting married. how in the world can that happen? we're going to tell you. and thanksgiving is a great time to learn more about your family's heritage. our next guest does exactly that and today she's taking a look at ainsley's family tree. we can't wait. ainsley is in for us. ♪ ♪ right when you feel a cold sore, abreva can heal it in as few as two and a half days when used at the first sign. without it the virus spreads from cell to cell. only abreva penetrates deep and starts to work immediately to block the virus and protect healthy cells. you could heal your cold sore, fast, as fast as two and a half days when used at the first sign. learn how abreva starts to work immediately at abreva.com don't tough it out, knock it out, fast. with abreva. we've got quick tuesday morning headlines for you. terror in the classroom. the university of illinois rehiring murderer and known domestic terrorist james kilgore. he taught for four years but was let go when his criminal past was revealed. nearly 2,000 people signed a petition demanding he get his job back. he is convicted of killing a mother of four in 1975 during a bank robbery in california. unholy matrimony. 80-year-old convicted killer charles manson is about to marry a 26-year-old woman. she abandoned her life in illinois nine years ago to live near the prison that he's at in california. she wants to clear his name. of course, famously manson and his followers, manson family, killed seven people, including actress sharon tate. and that's ts. >> thank you, steve. thanksgiving is right around the corner, which means it's the perfect time to give thanks and look back at your family's heritage. >> every family has a story and we're about to discover some information about ainsley's family history and give a special discount for "fox & friends" viewers only because you watched. >> this is a special treat. first we'll meet the author who traced her own family's history when she wrote the book, which resonated with so many. why is it so important to you to really reach tout to others to get back into their family history and understand the mystery? >> because when i wrote the book, i learned what can happen when you dive into your family's story. the book is about my grandmother's life and how she, during world war ii, was one of a group of islanders who helped hide and save a family of jews from the nazis. i then sought out that family and after years and years of searching, i found this family and i thought i never would. i finally found them. they had no idea about this connection 'cause their mothers never spoke of how they survived the war. they never spoke of the holocaust. so after 70 years, we rewrote this family's history and anyone can do it. it's really incredible. >> we did it for ainsley. we found really, really cool things. >> what did you find? >> we found great things with our friends at myheritage.com, we put them on your family search and found cool things. ainsley, i know on your mom's side you have deep roots in this country. prerevolutionary war. one of your ancestors was a paul bearer for george washington. your dad's side was more of a mystery. >> that's trouble. >> there is a reason for that. >> we found great stuff. we know that your -- you knew your father's family was from germany and thought that they came in through ellis island. but they didn't. we went back ten generations to germany. you have good stock. you come from good genes. >> thank you. >> back in the 1600s, we found your great grandmother ten times back anna katherine roush and they lived to be 100 years old. that was back in 1635. she died in 1736. so imagine that. living to 100 at that age. you come from good, hearty stock. >> my grandmother lived to 98 when she died. >> amazing. and also we found we have great records for you. we found some christian sus documents from south carolina. i think ruben harmon, a postmaster in south carolina. we found a census document of him living with his wife, louisa and three children in 1860. you thought your family came through ellis island. it opened officially in 1892. this shows your family was here at least 30 years before that. but that's not all. >> they are in the country legally, right? >> well, you know. we're confirming that. we also found more of your relatives in south carolina in 1773. so you guys have been here for a very, very long time. >> that's fascinating. thank you so much. thank you for choosing know do this. >> it was wonderful. >> myheritage. >> this computer age has allowed people to go back and back and back. we don't have to depend on verbal history. can you put in simple terms how you've consolidated records of all these nations? >> it's amazing because my heritage.com, who helped me in my search, if you go on there and you build your family tree and coming up with the holidays, thanksgiving around the corner, it's the perfect time to do this. >> sitting around the table yelling at each other. >> if we sit around the table yelling at each other and if go on there and start plugging in information, it links you to other family trees. ainsley, we went to another family tree so you have a lot of cuffs you don't know about. >> how much information do we need? >> not very much. i went in with my in-laws and all of a sudden, we started getting matches of documents. and trees link up to each other. >> she's terrific because she did my family tree and i asked her to please look for a rockefeller somewhere back there. she did find out that my family had land in ireland. >> exactly. we found the documents for you. >> you absolutely did. if you would like to go ahead and trace your family tree, listen to this, you can save 30%. go to myheritage.com in the friends code, use the word friends. >> that's right. >> and you can also go to our web site to figure out how. >> if it turns out we owe debts and discover this, are we responsible to pay? >> not if donald trump is your relative. >> that's good. i hope so. >> that's so exciting. >> thank you so much. >> thanks for having me on. now that we both said good-bye, it's my turn. coming up, a state of emergency as the city of ferguson braces for riots. what's the plan? we're going to ask state highway patrol captain ron johnson next. and this morning more than 200 million americans waking up to a record freeze and snow. maria molina live from inside the storm affecting the entire country straight ahead. >> make a snow angel. ♪ ♪ ♪ (holiday music is playing) hey! i guess we're going to need a new santa ♪(the music builds to a climax.) more people are coming to audi than ever before. see why now is the best time. audi will cover your first month's payment on select models at the season of audi sales event. visit audioffers.com today. i'my body doesn't work the way it used to. past my prime? i'm a victim of a slowing metabolism? i don't think so. great grains protein blend. protein from natural ingredients like seeds and nuts. it helps support a healthy metabolism. great grains protein blend. this weekend chuck hagel was giving a speech about nuclear weapons, but there was something on his face that had people talk. remember, this is the guy in charge of defending our country. take a look at this. >> i have an incident with a cabinet door. i engaged the corner of a cabinet. >> even isis was like, this is going to be easy. he can't defend himself from a cabinet. >> ouch. >> that might be embarrassing, this is going to give you a chill. millions of americans waking up to record freeze and snow. right here you're looking at buffalo, new york where at least two feet of snow have already fallen. and this is near where we're going to find maria molina live playing in the snow. she has been all morning giving us the latest. what are you looking at now? >> that snow just continues to pile up here across parts of western new york. this arctic blast is a big story for most of the country. we're looking at about 200 million americans experiencing temperatures that are below freezing along parts of the east coast, down to parts of the southeast and even across the plains. so a major story. very early in the season to be seeing this. it's very cold arctic air going over the great lakes is producing a very significant lake effect snow event that we do have warnings in effect out here and we're talking additional feet of snow, on top of what we've already seen out here off of places like buffalo and here where we are in pembroke, new york. i want to share with you some video that shows how much snow has fallen across the area. we've also seen wind gusts up to 45 miles per hour and we even seen some lightning and heard some thunder with this snow activity out here. people are likely going to be trapped in their homes for several days as it continues the clean-up, which has been ongoing. but of course, we're still expecting so much more snow that this is going to be lasting for several days out here across parts of western new york. i also want to share with you out of buffalo, my fiance has a live stream for you that you can see how bad it is out there. we're also seeing feet of snow out there and very strong wind gusts. that location is just off the lake. so that's what's really enhancing that lake effect snow out there across parts of buffalo and as far inland as we are, 40 miles to the east of the city of buffalo. again, this scene is going to continue out here off of the great lakes and that cold air is going to be sticking around and that cold air really is also making that snow very light and enoughy. kind -- fluffy. kind of tough to make a know ball. that's the scene here out of western new york. we'll head over to you in new york where it's cold, but a little colder out here. >> absolutely. for a girl from miami, any time you see the snow, it's like whoa, that is so cool. >> if she could make a snowball, she'd be throwing it right now. now from heather, you have an update. >> coming out of chicago this morning, fox news alert, a pilot is missing at this hour after a small plane crashed into this home near chicago's midway airport. you can see the jet smashed into the side of this house. officials say this happened around 3:00 a.m. local time. the pilot had reported engine trouble right after takeoff, tried to land at another nearby airport, but did not make it. two elderly residents escaped from that house with the help of their neighbors. emergency crews are still trying to locate that pilot. but as of now, they say the house is too unstable to search inside. that missing pilot is believed to be the only person on board. this morning a 29-year-old woman is behind bars in virginia charged with lying to the f.b.i. about possible ties to isis. court papers reveal she proposalled isis on facebook using fake names and discussed making arrangements for her husband to travel to syria to train with the terror group. he apparently backed out of the deal when the couple split up. investigators say that the woman offered to make similar arrangements for an undercover agent. a missouri teen-ager comes to the rescue, saving an 11-month-old girl who stopped breathing at a wal-mart. the 17-year-old heard calls on the loud speaker, ran to the commotion to try to help. earlier on "fox & friends," abby snodgrass said she just learned cpr at school. listen. >> while it was happening, the only thought that crossed my mind was what if it didn't work? but i pushed it out of my mind. >> what a great young woman. the little girl is now home and healthy. rescuers say that abby without a doubt saved her life. al sharpton making a surprising claim that he's all squared up with the tax man. he was nailed by the irs back in 2007 for both himself personally and also his civil rights group tax return. the reverend is claiming he's now paid the millions in back taxes that were owed. sharpton saying, quote, we are now making the final payments on our installment agreement, both personally and organizationally. records on file with the city show that that may not be true. he still owes millions of dollars. and those are your headlines. let's head over to steve. >> all right. thank you very much. fox news alert, the f.b.i. declaring -- rather a state of emergency has been declared by the governor of mo in in ferguson. it's warning law enforcement officers, the f.b.i. is, to brace the city for violent protests as we await a grand jury's decision in the michael brown shooting. what are police expecting? joining us right now, speaking exclusively on "fox & friends," we've got missouri state highway patrol captain ron johnson. we've got st. louis police chief sam doddson and st. louis county police chief, john bellmar. thank you for joining us. >> good morning. >> captain johnson, you famously were walking with some of the protesters back when violence did break out and you were trying to calm people down. what are you doing to make sure that there is not more trouble straight ahead? >> we've been going around, all three of us, and meeting with several groups throughout our region, business leaders, community leaders, activists, high school students, middle school students, and just individuals and trying to connect with the community and find out their concerns and addressing those concerns. >> let me ask you this, chief doddson, are there a number of groups that you are particularly interested in, because i was reading on line this morning that apparently one of those anarchist groups have done some training with some people in ferguson, showing them how to screw things up. >> well, actually the coalition that we're talking to is made up of over 50 groups and there are a lot of people in those groups that really want peace. they want to come out and have their voices heard. but what we do find is there is a small percentage that want to come out with violence, that want to disrupt those peaceful protests. those are the groups where i think law enforcement really can play a big role and do what we do. we arrest criminals. if people violate the law in a violent way, we have a plan to take care of it. >> and it's great that you guys have all joined forces. chief bellmar, what kind of manpower are we talking about getting ready for some sort of an announcement there in ferguson? >> you know, steve, i think the manpower is going to be sufficient. st. louis county, for example l have probably 250 officers on the ground just in the evening. st. louis perhaps 300. the highway patrol perhaps 150. but keep in mind, we want to make sure that people understand we're going to ride their beats also. if you call 911, regardless of the manpower, we'll be at your house and business. >> absolutely. and captain johnson, the message is clear, violence will not be tolerated. correct? >> that's correct. we're out here to make sure that the public remains safe. we're going to forget the businesses. we're also going to forget the constitutional rights of visitors to our region. >> chief, i read somewhere on line that speak of protecting businesses, that there were some particular businesses you were worried about. is there a list of targets? >> well, there is not a list of targets. but in august what we saw these activities were happening in ferguson in the city of st. louis, about 25 window smashings occurred. as you talked about the governor activating the national guard earlier, that's part of our plan, to put police officers and national guard into neighborhoods to watch strip malls, shopping centers as deterrents, visibility, so that the community knows that we have a plan, and then early warning. so while we don't have a list, i think police chiefs all over worry about just about everything. >> finally, chief bellmar, i know that you got a lot of manpower there, but also got the national guard at the ready as well, right? >> we appreciate the governor offering a the guard. they're really a force multiplier for us. last time they were a lot of help in securing the command post. i think they're going to be a tremendous benefit this time and we certainly appreciate these citizen soldiers coming to our aid. >> we appreciate the three of you joining us this morning. we know you got a lot on your plate today. so we thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. 20 minutes before the top of the hour. we have showed you this video of fox news catching up with dr. jonathan gruber. >> professor, do you really think the american voters are stupid? what about the obamacare, is that just a hoax on the american people? >> well, you know what? he's not talking, but you are. your e-mail pouring in. we're going to share some of them next. and matthew mcconaghey said he wasn't going to be in that stripper sequel. but you know what? this morning an update. he's going to take it off again. >> all right, all right, all right. welcome back. we have some headlines for you. dallas is back. matthew mcconaghey will reprize his role as a strip club owner in the sequel to "magic mike," but just for a cameo. rumors are producers couldn't afford him for the whole movie. and the word of the year is vape. short for vapor. last year's word was selfie. you know, it's funny, here at fox for years we've been telling you about the various angles in obamacare. pretty much dr. gruber has revealed that we were right. there he is right there. he has revealed that famously on video that the only reason they were able to get the law through was because americans are stupid and we forget things really fast. >> if you're in power, you don't have to be transparent about everything in the plan. after all, if you told healthy people that they had to pay for sick people, that plan would never have passed. >> plus it's a tax. it's a tax. they knew it was a tax, but he said if people knew it was a tax, it would never pass. >> he's been loose lipped, up until our own david webb from fox news actually ambushed him right at m.i.t. and couldn't get a peep out of him. he had nothing to say. look at this. >> you had lots to say to the media. what about talking to us? we just want to talk to you. >> no thank you. >> do you think the american people would have actually bought into obamacare without all the deception for the cbo scoring? >> once again, i have no comment. >> if you're telling the truth, why are you apologizing as you did for being honest about what was done to get obamacare passed? >> i have no comment. >> come on, one last chance. let's have a conversation. professor, do you really think the american voters are stupid? >> no comment. >> what about the obamacare, is that just a hoax on the american people? >> so it wasn't just -- it was not only did the fact that he was talking at a school and mocking the american people, every single thing that he went through was every single thing critics who bring up about obamacare and were quickly told that has nothing to do with it. you're trying o cloud the issue. you're trying to scare people away from this brand-new plan. so here is what you're saying. julia on facebook says this. >> it's about time these people get cornered and questioned. keep in mind that gruber is still trending on twitter. barbara said this on facebook. >> sure had enough to say when he was calling us stupid. absolutely. >> steve, if you can do a girl's voice, would you let elisabeth do a boy's voice. >> he's afraid of the mic. never happened before. good point. >> david had to walk in the open rain. >> maybe gruber was right that americans are stupid because david webb is walking outside with no umbrella. what's really curious is david axelrod, who a couple of days ago attacked gruber by saying, you know, you look up stupid, there is his picture. now he's backing it up. he says that his contributions to the affordable care act were invaluable and his throw away equips were offensive. this is the same time that the "new york times" is doing damage control on their editorial page. looks like there is more to come from mr. gruber. >> we know it was big last week and still resonating this week. meanwhile, we have a great close to this show and here is the question: have you met the country bucks? 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>> in the kitchen? >> kitchen stove. true story. >> yeah. he came out, it looked like a cries crispy treat. we got started making hunting products. now we pretty much make everything for hunting and fishing. >> you're in the hunt for the best new products. >> that's it. >> so you're successful without the show. do you have to be convinced to do the show? >> yeah. they came to us. they heard about how we test our products and all our r and b and were fascinated with that. we thought it would be a great way to promote our brands and show everybody how we do this. >> i hear the robertsons are friends of yours. but it sounds like they stole your act. a couple of brothers, they got land and wildlife gear. hello. >> you're spot on. we got a long way to go. >> did willie robertson give you advice? >> oh, yeah. >> willie, doesn't give advice. >> best advice. >> there he is right there. >> you brought some of your stuff. show us the laser range finder. >> it's right by your hand. y'all know yardage, right? >> yep. >> just like you want to know how far the pin is. hunting is the same thing. you'll shoot a cross bow at a target. you got to acquire the range before you shoot so you know where to aim. >> i need that for my cross bow. >> that's it. >> you got a couple models here of cross bows. >> we do. this is our top of the line it shoots 400 feet per second. smoking. carbon and titanium. it's made for anything. >> you have a lot of vikings come to your ranch? >> whenever, we're ready for them. >> this is our kiddy, junior for the kids. >> i love this right here, the black antler call. >> yeah. the black rack. >> what message are you giving? >> it means you want a piece of me. >> every deer loves a fight. same with deer. if you saw rattling antler, that buck is coming on. >> you're pretending you're fighting to invite the other bucks? >> the buck starts there. >> the buck starts there. >> then we get them to stop. >> guy, stick around. we'll continue this conversation in a minute, 'cause it's not cold enough. >> we're here. we are going to have one for the road. it's all about the baste. ♪ i'm all about that baste, about that baste ♪ ♪ on thanksgiving day ♪ i think it's really true ♪ fact. when you take advil you get relief right at the site of pain. wherever it is. advil stops pain right where it starts. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil. ♪ we are the champions ♪ my friends >> the 114th congress taking their class picture, the freshmen members of the house of representatives getting all set to take over when new congress begins in january. smile. >> that's right. we showed you this video earlier. all about the baste. ♪ i'm all about that baste, about that baste ♪ ♪ more butter >> and the comments have been pouring in. one said this, sensation in germany, i didn't realize the ovens used selfy. >> also how i love monkeys, so check out this. my friends are up in thailand acting like pirates. these monkeys steal from a kayaker. they jump on the boat for his pineapple and then more keep coming. >> monkeying around. >> see you tomorrow, everybody. bill. bill: a bloody terrorist attack in jerusalem and three americans are dead. martha: two palestinians storming a temple. they attacked worshipers there with meat cleavers and a gun. you hear the sound of shots ringing out as the first responders were arriving on the

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58 degrees below zero. i wonder if they eventually got on that plane? i wouldn't. >> have a great day. "fox & friends" starts right now. bye. good morning. it is wednesday, november 26. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a massive nor'easter threatening the bigiest travel day of the year, snow and ice disrupting thanksgiving plans for millions. hundreds of flights are already canceled. you're going to want to check yours. maria molina is tracking the storm straight ahead just for you. >> pretty much everybody is awake right now. overnight more violence flares in the streets of ferguson, missouri as the officer at the center of it all breaks his silence on television. >> i can feel his hand trying to come over my hand and [inaudible] and try to she me with my own gun. that's when i pulled the trigger for the first time. >> why officer darren wilson says he was just doing what he was trained to do. >> he's the motivational speaker who inspired no one? >> you people are here trying to do a good jb. don't waste your time. it doesn't do you any good. the customers don't care about it, and neither do you. >> that is not norman vincent peale. was the smoking clown invited back to burn through more taxpayer cash at another g.s.a. convention? i know i was going to get the smoking clown video. mornings are better with friends. >> nothing says thanksgiving week like a smoking clown. >> that does it right there for you, the rainbow wig. >> ready for a big, big day? >> it is a big day. a lot happening overnight. more violence erupting in ferguson. take a look at the police car here. it was actually set on fire. >> it was. and a bunch of people were arrested as well. joining us live from ferguson with the breaking details, once again our man adam housely. adam, a quieter night but the national guard was out in full force? >> they were steve. i'm going to give you a live look and then we'll show the video from last night and explain the dinners. first of all, a live look, we're in old town ferguson. this is where the police and fire station are. as you pan around you can see this road is now open. it was here where the protesters gathered last night. let's go to the video last night. we can show you they set a car on fire. they originally started outside the police station and fire station. they then dispersed a little bit and then walked down the street and hit businesses that had not been torched or van daldized -- vandalized the night before. they tried to torch the car. one guy set himself on fire with a molotov cocktail. that is about the time the police and national guard stepped in and stopped it. more than 40 people were arrested. a lot of people in ferguson are saying why didn't they do that the night before and defuse it before it got more out of control. it seems like they took control at that point and within a few minutes started to get the crowd knocked down in size. there were a few more skirmishes but the good news is that was basically the extent of the violence here. driving around this morning as compared to last night and the night before, there is a significant presence of national guard troops around not only ferguson but st. louis. i was in downtown last night checking the area out around 8:00 or 9:00. outside every major courthouse or building that had anything to do that was official you would see a humvee with guards standing outside or near it. they definitely have control of this area. the question is for a lot of people we spoke to last night and again this morning is why didn't they do this response the first night? why did they wait to do that kind of response last night. that's the big question. >> we watched the governor last night tell everybody i had the national guard but they were in different locations. now we have more that are actually going to be in protecting the stores. i just don't understand what's going on there. it makes me think when the lieutenant governor goes after the governor there is a real political problem and a lot of people lost their businesses because -- >> indeed. adam, thank you very much. >> all right. at the crux of all of what is going on in ferguson, missouri, was the struggle between officer darren wilson and michael brown on that day in august. we have not heard from mr. wilson so far until last night. he sat down with george stephanopoulos in ferguson, missouri. abc got the exclusive rights to the interview. apparently they did not pay him any money but here he is, officer wilson, explaining what happened that day. >> he threw the first punch? >> yes. he threw the first one and hit me in the last side of my face. >> some of the witnesses said they saw you trying to pull him into the car? >> [inaudible] training ever taught the law enforcement. i thought the immense power he had and the way i described it it was like a five-year-old going against hulk hogan. that is how big this man was. [inaudible] i'm going to shoot you. his response, he grabbed my gun. his response was you're too much of a [bleep] to shoot me. i could feel his hand try to shoot me with my own gun. that is when i pulled the trigger for the first time. >> why not stay in the car? he's running away? >> my job isn't to just sit and wait. i have to see where this guy goes. >> you felt it was your duty to give chase? >> yes, it was. that is what we were trained to do. when he stopped he turned and faced me. as he does that his right hand immediately goes into his waistband and his left hand is at his side and he starts charging me. >> what did you think when you saw that? >> i didn't know. my initial thought was was there a weapon in there? >> even though he had not pulled anything the first time he confronted you? >> it was unknown. >> some of the witnesses said at that moment he turned around, he turned around and put his hands up. >> incorrect. >> no way? >> no way. >> people come off saying he looks cold. the daily news says he's cold as ice. >> i thought he looked young, young as could be. >> i just thought he was telling a story as he remembered it. >> that's the closest we've come to hearing any sort of accounting. we saw pictures come through yesterday. we hear his accounts last night. he went on to actually talk about the heart under his badge and the remorse he feels and what he would say to michael brown's family. take a listen and look. >> the brown family came out with a statement last night where they said we are profoundly disappointed that the killer of our child will not face the consequences of his actions. what do you think when you hear that? >> i think those are grieving parents mourning the loss of their son. not only that they could say -- again, i'm sorry that their son lost their life. it wasn't the intention of that day as to what occurred that day, and there's no, nothing you can say that's going to make a parent feel better. >> it sounds like you don't think you were responsible? >> i did my job that day. >> do you feel any remorse? >> everyone feels remorse when a life's lost. i might have told you before i never wanted to take anybody's life. you know, that's not the good part of the job. that's the bad part of the job. so, yes, there is remorse. >> he essentially went on to say basically he was going to kill me or i was going to kill him. >> and the grand jury believed his testimony that it was a case of, a clear case of self-defense. he also revealed that that was the first time he ever, ever used his gun during the job aside from target practice and stuff like that. nonetheless, there's been a great deal of interest. we know that we saw the ratings, we know a lot of you people are interested in this. we're all interested in it. bernie goldberg was on with bill o'reilly last night and talked about how some people are trying to make this a black-white thing, a civil rights case. how does bernie feel about it? listen to him. >> more than a few journalists especially on television are trying to turn this into a civil rights story, but you know what? ferguson, missouri, is not selma, alabama. 2014 is not 1965. and michael brown is not emmitt till or medgar evers or any other black person shot by a white big got. michael brown that day stole stuff from a convenience store and roughed up the owner who was half his side. michael brown thought he would get away, according to the grand jury, with roughing up a cop. he brought about his own demise. it is a tragedy when any 18-year-old is killed and especially for the parents. we certainly sympathize with that. but michael brown was the bad guy in this case, and please, american, let's not turn this kid into some kind of civil rights marytr, because that he is not. >> also others pointing out that there have been 244 teens that have been killed in chicago. the major networks along with other cable news outlets here have not been covering that. the majority of those are black males. no word said about that death toll. yet the focus here of course. really asking for equal opportunity when it comes to advocacy for these young black males. >> sure. to bernie's point, keep in mind it seems the grand jury agreed with essentially the testimony we just saw the officer give george stephanopoulos and decided not to indict. they apparently, there were many witnesses but a least a half dozen african-american witnesses came forward and affirmed what officer wilson said. on some of the channels it has been very clear to them what happened, but you listen to him, you make your own decision. the grand jury, though, ultimately decided that there wasn't enough there to send him to trial. >> the investigation continues at the federal level. the president yesterday goes out to speak about immigration, gets interrupted quite on. before he does that, kind of ripped about what this means, what this trial means and he understands the frustration of these communities. did point out in a very slow, modulated tone that this is not the way to act. he said these acts are illegal and felonies and looting, obviously. so we'll see where we go with this. >> let us know what you think when you hear officer wilson speaking. e-mail us, tweet us, tell us what your reaction was listening to the officer speak about shooting michael brown. >> the huffington post rights the b.s. meter was off the charts. the daily news says cold as ice. what is your impression because this is the first time most of us have seen him talk. >> he said it was him or me. >> the other thing making headlines is the weather because it is thanksgiving eve and travel plans are being broken right now many >> sorry tort bearer of -- sorry to be the bearer of bad news. a massive nor easter is packing heavy snow and rain pounding our country at this very hour. 200 flights already canceled. thousands more delays are expected. new york's la guardia airport, jfk, newark and washington reagan national being hit the hardest this morning. triple a is estimating 46 million people will try to travel 50 miles or more on this thanksgiving holiday. a new case of home grown terror in minnesota. two men indicted for aiding isis, one an 18-year-old stopped at an airport on his way to the middle east. now his lawyers say investigators str it all wrong -- investigators have it all wrong. >> this young man is far from being a threat to anyone. he is not one of the organizers. >> the other suspect slipped past the f.b.i. he's now fighting for isis in syria. some community leaders say that prosecutors are going after the wrong guys. >> [inaudible] the kid was brain washed. why not go after the big guys? >> authorities estimate a dozen minnesota residents traveled to syria to fight with isis within the last year. a top contender to succeed defense secretary chuck hagel just dropped out of the running, but a new name has just come into the mix. michele flournoy taking herself out of contention. sources say she wants to be hillary clinton's pentagon chief. as for the new name floating around reports say homeland security chief jeh johnson being considered for the job. he is a former general counsel for the d.o.d. those my friends are our headlines. back to you guys. >> thank you, ainsley. >> sorry. i just don't like ainsley: >> brian, you're fired. >> coming up on this wednesday that actually feels kind of like a friday, attention passengers. we need you to push the plane. that's right. what went wrong forcing all those people out into the below zero temperatures to push the jet. >> then defense secretary chuck hagel is out. who will replace him? pete hegseth is here live with his topic. >> i pick pete. ♪ ♪ fact. when you take advil you get relief right at the site of pain. wherever it is. advil stops pain right where it starts. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil. so you can see like right here i can just... you know, check my policy here, add a car, ah speak to customer service, check on a claim...you know, all with the ah, tap of my geico app. oh, that's so cool. well, i would disagree with you but, ah, that would make me a liar. no dude, you're on the jumbotron! whoa. ah...yeah, pretty much walked into that one. geico anywhere anytime. just a tap away on the geico app. he told me there's a whole new way to treat sensitivity. he suggested i try new crest sensi-stop strips. 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>> first of all, when you get on the airplane even though it might be a little bit chilly in the cabin, turn on the air vent. if you turn it on low or medium it knocks some of those germs away from your face. you want the airstream blowing in front of your nose and mouth. put your hands in your lap, if you can feel it blowing on you it is probably in the right position. >> that way it blows the germs from the germy guy next to me away. >> do you always call the flight attendant instead of putting the light on? >> it is the round one. you twist. you say the stuff on the plane is dirty. there have been other people on the plane, unless you're flying private before. >> bring your own pillow or blanket or roll up your sweatshirt. don't use those provided by the airlines. one study shows they're only washed every five to 30 days. you can imagine how many people are using those things. >> like 46 million people exchanging location in traveling those blankets have got to accumulate something. >> even though you take it out of the flsa particular bag it's been -- out of the plastic bag it's been used before? >> yes. those have been washed probably not as well as we'd like. >> what do you say we should bring? for example, wipes? >> i don't leave without antibacterial wipes? >> bring antibacterial wipes with you on the plane. those tray tables, 60% of them have staph on them. >> can you say that again? >> 60%. >> have staph? >> if you have an open wound and you touch it, you could get a skin infection, sometimes that can result in complications. just as a comparison, only 11% of subway surfaces in new york city have staph on them. these are very, very infectious surfaces. >> also avoid motion sickness? how? people are traveling on cars and jets. >> children ages 2 to 12 are most prone to this. a lot of times they are not tall enough to see out of the windows of a car. they don't have the coping skills to look over the horizon. ditch the video games, ditch the d.v.d. that is a little bit of overstimulation for kids prone to car sickness. use music. give them headphones instead. >> the wheels on the bus go round, round, round. >> there are medications fortunately for kids to, ages 2 and up can take dramine. for adults your doctor can prescribe a patch. >> thank you very much. erin tolbert is going to fly back to nashville. thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> meanwhile, he's the motivational speaker who inspired no one. >> you people are here trying to do a good job; don't waste your time. it doesn't do you any good. the customers don't care about it, and neither do you. >> was the smoking clown invited back to burn through more of our taxpayer cash at another g.s.a. convention? say it ain't so. >> speaking of cigarettes, president obama has said he kicked the habit, but billy joel throwing him under the bus. the story that's lighting up the headlines this morning. ♪ ♪ it says here that a won's sex drive ♪ increases at the age of 80. helps reduce the risk of heart disse. keep hrt-healthy. live long. eat the 100% goodness of post shreddedheat. doctorrecommend it. finally, the purple pill,hr the #1 prescribed acid blocking brand, comes without a prescription for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. nexium level protection™ we have breaking news out of the st. louis area. hanley hills, missouri, five miles from ferguson. two f.b.i. agents have reportedly been shot according to the local fox affiliate there. we are told their injuries are not life threatening. i understand one was shot in the shoulder. >> we're told they should be okay. these are live pictures you're looking at now of the scene. the agents were shot serving a search warrant which was followed by some sort of hostage situation. it's unknown if this is related to the protests in ferguson that we've been seeing. >> the suspect is still barricaded inside the house at this hour. we understand he's wanted for the murder of his mother and for shooting another officer. we'll keep you updated as we get more information. >> that in hanley hills, which is near st. louis, missouri. >> on the busiest day of travel this year, we have more for you. a massive nor'easter is about to slam the northeast with rain and snow. >> that storm already putting a damper on thanksgiving travel with 200 flights canceled so far this morning. thousands of more delays are expected later today. >> maria molina promised to track this storm. maria, have you decided to answer the call and track this storm? >> yes, i am ready. i'm here. we already have the rain just starting across parts of knocks. really the northeast starting to get some of the moisture from the storm system. you can see areas of heavy rain across georgia, florida and caroline nasp. some of the higher elevations of virginia and wrve seeing snow -- and west virginia seeing snow coming down. later on today in new york city as the storm intensifies, tracks up the coast it should be pulling in colder air that we could be looking at a slushy mix. along interior portions of the northeast it should stay as all snow for so many of you. that's why we do think that some snowfall accumulations out there could exceed a foot. a lot of moisture with this storm. we have winter storm warnings in effect from as far south as parts of north carolina and virginia all the way to maine. those are throughout the day today. then the storm system exits the northeast. tomorrow should be a much better weather day across portions of the northeast and the mid-atlantic. here's a look at the snow cast snowfall. as much as six inches expected across parts of west virginia and virginia. other areas, parts of the upper midwest cold and snow as well. those are other areas that are going to be looking at trouble as far as travel goes for today. beautiful in texas. we're looking at dry conditions and temperatures in the 60's. let's head back inside. >> maria, for the big northeastern corridor cities it is going to be a hassle getting places? >> a hassle. rain-snow mix. slushy accumulation, a couple of inches. it is going to be messy and it will be dangerous on the roads. >> it will take a lot to rattle maria. she was in buffalo. >> meanwhile the third-ranking senate democrat is going back on obamacare. new york's s senatorchuck schumer blasting the president's signature health care law saying it never should have been passed. by the way he voted on it. schumer is calling it a major mistake. it sounds like he's running for reelection. >> you think? good morning, steve and elisabeth and brian. new york's senior senator chuck schumer had been a vocal advocate of obamacare but now says it was not what the majority of americans wanted add not good political strategy for democrats. schumer contends after president obama won the presidency in 2008 and democrats controlled the house and senate, his party made a mistake by pursuing obamacare two years into the president's first term because the american people didn't want it. >> we took their mandate and put all of our focus on the wrong problem. health care reform. now the plight of uninsured americans and the hardships caused by unfair insurance company practices certainly needed to be addressed, but it wasn't the change we were hired to make. americans were crying out for the end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs. not changes in health care. >> the white house has not commented on senator schumer's comments, but one of the president's top advisors is defending the president's signature legislation. dan pfeiffer tweeted, quote, the broader point is obama ran to solve long festering politically hard problems that others shy away from. but schumer says after the 2009 stimulus package, democrats should have proposed more economic programs for the middle class. back to you all. >> it happens. >> chilly vibes throughout the party today with those comments. >> it is untbleeivel that -- unbelievable that he said what he said. how is josh earnest going to handle that? >> do you think it is unbelievable a democrat changed his mind? >> that is huge. >> he's running for reelection. time to turn to ainsley earhardt with the news. >> thank you so much. he is the motivational speaker who inspired no one. >> you people are here trying to do a good job. don't waste your time. it doesn't do you any good. the customers don't care about it, and neither do you. >> remember when the general services administration you'd your taxpayer dollars -- used your taxpayer dollars for a luxurious conference in las vegas? you remember that picture at least? we learned they did it again one year after that infamous 2010 conference, staffers returned to the resort for snore taxpayer-funded meeting. a review of invoices found 21 people there, they dined on lunches that cost 44 bucks and drank lemonade that cost you, the taxpayer, $50 a gallon. the entire conference costing about $2,500 per person. an australian woman fights for her life after being swallowed by a sink hole. the 45-year-old woman was hanging clothes on her laundry line when the earth underneath her just opened up plunging her down ten feet into some water. she managed to stay afloat for 20 minutes until the rescue workers could get there. a plane in russia gets stuck frozen on the runway and passengers are asked to go out there and help push that huge plane to free it from the ice. the temperature outside freezing. 58 degrees below zero. it is something that billy joel hasn't done for the longest time. ♪ ♪ >> that's how long the legendary rocker says it has been since he had a smoke. but one source says the president offered him a cigarette during a visit to the white house last year. billy joel is denying that. the singer does not deny, however, reports that he declined a smoke from another high-profile politician, the speaker of the house john boehner. and those are your headlines. >> we don't care. he's great in concert. anyone see him? 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>> these days i tend to believe everything. thank you, elisabeth. take a look at this brand-new video. last night's protests raged in cities across the country, hundreds of people demanding just for michael brown but is that the right way to make their voices heard? joining us is attorney and law professor jonathan turley. good morning to you, professor. you're all about justice, and so many people we have seen there in the ferguson, missouri, area, unfortunately, i think they are getting -- they think the only way to get justice for michael brown is by looting in some cases. >> you know, the vast majority of demonstrators of course do it completely lawfully. but these people who then go out and loot obviously defeat the whole purpose of these protests. they lose the moral high ground. there is an obvious disconnect between calling for justice and looting a liquor store. >> absolutely. i know you wrote a column about this a couple of days ago. this was troubling, a troubling case for a number of reasons. in the very beginning the governor out there, jay nixon, he called michael brown a victim, even though you've got the officer who said he was the guy who was roughed up by mr. brown. then you've got the attorney general, he was on tv yesterday talking about how even though the grand jury did not indict mr. wilson, it looks like they're going to go forward with their investigation. how do they do that? >> well, these types of parallel investigations occur occasionally particularly in high-profile cases like this one. what was a little odd in this case was that it seemed quite premature that attorney general holder ordered a federal agent before the state investigation had gotten through its even initial stages. usually these civil rights investigations occur after state proceedings, certainly after state investigations. the actual claim, the charge that would come out of a civil rights investigation is more difficult than what the grand jury looked at. it's very unlikely that they would find evidence based on the record released by the grand jury to support this type of charge. this occurred in less than 90 seconds, and this grand jury found there wasn't even enough evidence to support involuntary manslaughter. that makes the civil rights case even tougher to make. >> when the prosecutor, this extraordinary thing of putting -- he doesn't just present one side. he presents everything to the jurors and they decide there's not enough stuff there. had the side that is protesting right now, had they got be their way and there would have been a jury trial, you say it would have been a slam dunk for the defense? >> i think the defense would have won this case. it was a very strong defense case. the biggest question occurs over that final volley of shots that there is a legitimate question there. why were so many shots fired? why was there a need to shoot brown when he was at a distance on that last round? but those are distinctions that are likely to be lost in a criminal case under the beyond a reasonable doubt standard, the forensics were quite strong for the defense. i think the defense would have won that case. but for a grand jury to and not even indict on involuntary manslaughter shows how relatively weak that evidence is. you have to keep in mind this is beyond a reasonable doubt as a standard. if the family brings a lawsuit, they will be under a different standard, a preponderance of the evidence standard, a lower standard. and they may take another run at this. you know, that is exactly what we saw in some other cases of acquittal, the most famous being o.j. simpson who later lost the civil lawsuit. >> absolutely, still paying off that, he is, from behind bars. did you see any of the george stephanopoulos interview with the officer last night? >> yes. >> how do you think he came across? >> i thought he was very interesting just as a criminal defense attorney to see the officer. i think he came off well. it indicates that he would be a tough witness for the prosecutors. >> very good. jonathan turley joining us from our nation's capital. sir, thank you very much for taking time out of your wednesday before thanksgiving. i know your wife probably needs you to stop by safeway and pick up some stuff action so please do on the way home. >> thank you, steve. >> dr. turley, thank you. we were talking about thanksgiving before we got started. next up, a lot of people are talking about michael brown's step father, what he said. >> [bleep]. 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get ahead on the market, dillard's decides no, we are going to maintain our policy and not have our employees work that day. why? >> you know, that's right. we have a strong family heritage at dillard's. we really believe this is the right thing to do for our associates and for their families. over the next several weeks, we're going to ask them to put in some pretty long hours and to really go the extra me to give our customers exceptional service. we think this is the right thing to do with them, allowing them this time off with their families on this special day to kind of take a breather before things get really busy. and we just believe that if we honor our associates in the long run, they're going to honor our customers as well. >> what's been their response from some of those working for dillard's? what does it mean to them having the day off? >> they are overwhelmingly supportive. i get e-mails from our customers thanking us. they go on our facebook page and openly thank us for this special day with their families. they are overwhelmingly supportive of dillard's in this. and we believe we're rewarded in the long run. >> i think there are a lot of people that just feel as though, gosh, just give us back thanksgiving. why do we have to a, start getting out there to compete for deals? a lot of other stores are kind of jumping on board, taking a note on your book. hobby lobby, sam's club, costco and efforts ones open on thanksgiving, look at this. macy's, k-mart, sears, kohl's, j.c. penney. are you worried about losing sales to those companies that decide, look, getting that sale, having the register ring is more important today? >> you know, that's their decision. we believe there are a lot of good days to shop in the holiday season. we believe our customers are going to support us in this. we've never been open on thanksgiving in our 76-year history. it's really more of who we are than of big decisions. we believe our customers are supportive. we're getting positive feedback and believe we'll be ultimately rewarded. >> those who work for dillard's will have a happy one for sure. extra stuffing for them it seems. >> exactly. >> we want to thank you for being here and to your dillard's team for giving the time today and to your employees tomorrow. >> happy thanksgiving. thank you. >> happy thanksgiving. this, we are going to the dogs. check out some national dog show members that just joined the crew. they are cute asm can be. up next. ♪ good morning. it is wednesday, november 26. a fox news alert for you. it's the busiest travel day of the year, but many of you are won't even make it off the ground. hundreds of flights are canceled as a massive winter storm takes aim. what you need to know before heading out this morning. all right. as more violence in ferguson flairs up, the police officer who shot and killed michael brown speaking out in his own words. >> i don't know how to shoot somebody. he grabbed my gun and charged me. >> why he says he was just doing his job. then, one police chief tells it like it is. >> some of the people here gave a good god damn about the victimization of people in this community by crime, i'd take some of it more seriously. >> clearly he's frustrated. that exploding on the internet. milwaukee police chief will be here live on this day before thanksgiving, you're watching "fox & friends". >> hi. this is dolly parton and you're watching "fox & friends". hello, friends. >> you wouldn't have to count on airplanes if we all had jet packs. >> or hover boards. >> it's going to be so bad in spots, airplanes, jet packs, hover boards grounded. >> in the meantime, take a look at this. breaking news this past half hour out of stanley hills, missouri. five miles from ferguson, two f.b.i. agents reportedly had been shot. we are told their injuries are not life-threatening, however. >> the agents were shot serving a search warrant which was followed by some sort of hostage situation. the f.b.i. now saying it was not related to the protests in ferguson. >> the suspect is still barricaded inside the house. he's considered armed, dangerous. we understand he is wanted for the murder of his mother and for shooting another officer. we'll keep you updated as we got more information. another night of violence in ferguson. but not as much violence. >> that's right. just watch this terrifying moments here as protesters set a police car on fire. >> if they're setting police cars on fire, they're not protesters. they are looters. joining us now from ferguson with breaking details on this wednesday morning is adam housley. >> reporter: that's a good way of putting it. within that crowd, you'll find people that are truly protesting, but also you'll find people up to no good. that's evident by the damage they've done here in the last couple of days. i'm standing here, here comes a humvee, the national guard troops that came in yesterday afternoon and sometime in the morning as well. they weren't here the first night as we know. but now they're in. you find them all over not only ferguson, but downtown st. louis, and all major building also have one sitting out front. back here, the video you showed of the protests last night began here, fire station number 1. one of the windows was busted. if you come across, there are national guard troops inside fire station number 1 staying warm. they're inside those doors. keep coming across toward the police department here in ferguson. you'll see the barricades out front. that's where that demonstration began last night. it started peaceful and moved down the street. they did loot more businesses. not as many as the night before. they did do some vandalism and damage. but that's what the police car was taken out down there and thankfully, at that time that's when the national guard moved in. they came in with the police and they stopped a situation that could have gotten much worse. really within a few minutes it alleviated. a lot of people started to leave and it wasn't nearly as bad, not even close to what we saw the night before. >> adam housley live in ferguson with the very latest. thank you very much. glad it was a quiet night. across the country, there were protest. in new york city, people protesting. not looting, but they stopped people going in and out of the tunnel. >> protest on the 101. >> one of the cops told a reporter in the new york post today that while there were people and they were stopping traffic, the cops were told don't go hard on them. just let them blow off steam. >> wow. >> those people want their voices heard. a message certainly being sent across the nation. one voice that was heard and i think everyone stopped to listen was that of darren wilson who shot michael brown. this is how he described shooting him. >> where is your gun at that point? >> i keep it on my right hip. i come up and point it at him. i say get back or i'm going to shoot you. his response immediately, he grabbed the top miff gun and when he grabbed it, he said, you're too much of a blank to shoot me. i can feel his hand come over my hand and try to shoot me with my own gun and that's when i pulled the trigger for the first time. >> what happened? >> it didn't go offment it was being jammed by his hand on top of the firearm. i tried again and again another click. and this time i said this has to work. or i'm going to be dead. something is going to happen and i'm going to be dead. i pulled a third time and it finally goes off. >> that's the first time you had to shoot a gun? >> yes, it was. and paused. >> what did you see? >> i noticed at least one hit him. i don't know where, but i saw his body kind of flinch a little. and after that, i paused and again yelled, stop. get on the ground. giving him the opportunity to stop. and he ignored all the commands and kept running. so after he kept running again, i shot another few shots and at least one of those hit him because i saw him flinch. at this time he was 15 feet away. i started back pedaling. he gets eight to ten feet and leans forward like he's going to tackle me. i looked down the barrel of my gun and fired and what i saw was my head and that's where it went. >> right on top his head? >> yes. >> you never even shot your gun >> uh-huh. after the supervisor got there, i gave him the brief rundown of what happened. >> what did you tell him? >> i told him i had to shoot somebody. he said why? he said he charged me and was going to kill me. >> is there anything you could have done differently it would have prevents that had killing from taken place? >> no. >> nothing? >> no. >> you're absolutely convinced when you look through your heart and your mind that if michael brown were white, this would have gone down exactly the same way? >> yes. >> no question? >> no question. >> he says he has no regrets about what happened. he was just doing his job. essentially itr it was the 18-year-old. in the end, he wanted to get back to a normal life. unfortunately, i don't see that happening. it does point out some that all these people that don't know him that offered their support, he truly appreciates it. >> this isn't the best part of the job. expressing remorse, it's the worst part of the job. we asked you what you thought after hearing his words. one said i'm the father of a law enforcement officer that had to shoot and kill someone in the line of duty. when he was telling me about what happened, his demeanor was the same as officer wilson. it takes a lot out of someone to have to end someone's life. so please give the officer a break. he was not cold or uncaring. >> jessica tweeted us, officer wilson sounds like a trained police officer giving his report, which sounds about right to me. just a little while ago issues we had on jonathan turley, a professor in washington, d.c., of law. and he said looking at his recapitulation of what happened that night, mr. wilson would have been a very strong witness. keep in mind, he was -- it was just the fact, ma'am of the giving them as he remembered. clearly the grand jury believed him because they decided not to indict him. and his story was corroborated by at least a half dozen african-americans who talked to the grand jury in the st. louis area. >> the forensics backed up his story, where the shots were and the way he said it sounded. a lot of people, the critics say the grand jury didn't have a chance to question him. only listen to him. >> that's right. we certainly got a chance to listen to what he had to say there. continue to send your thoughts via e-mail and twitter, facebook. we will read them here. lots happening this morning. ainsley earhart is here to bring it to you. >> that's right. lots of people on the road. the first story, another fox news alert. massive nor'easter packing snow and rain, creating a disaster travel day for thousands of individuals. nearly 250 flights already canceled this morning. thousands more delays are expected. new york's la guardia and jfk airport, new jersey's newark, and washington's reagan national are being hit the hardest. aaa estimates 46 million people will try to travel 50 miles or more for thanksgiving. a new case of home grown terror in minnesota. two men indicted for aiding isis. one of them, an 18-year-old, stopped at the airport on his way to the middle east. now his lawyer says investigators have it all wrong. >> this young man is far from being a threat to anyone. he is not one of the organizers. >> the other suspect slipped past the f.b.i he's now fighting for isis in syria. some community leaders say prosecutors are going after the wrong guy. >> an 18-year-old kid who was brainwashed, confused, why not go after the big guy. >> many people have traveled to syria to fight with isis. a top contender to succeed defense secretary chuck hagel just dropping out of the running. a new name, one you know, was thrown into the mix. former defense official michelle flournoy, taking herself out of contention. sources says she wants to be hillary clinton's pentagon chief. as for the new name being tossed around. homeland security chief jay johnson is being considered for the job. thanksgiving is supposed to be about good friends, good food and good conversation, right? not according to manny bloomberg. he wants you to talk about guns. the former new york city mayor giving you advice on what to tell your pro-gun relatives this holiday season. here are the top talking points from his organization every town for gun safety. first, they say it's a myth that guns make us safer. claiming that more guns put everyone at risk. next, they say guns do not stop gun crime. and they say 92% of americans support background checks. those are your headlines. >> i want to talk about football. is that possible? what else are we allowed to talk about? >> maybe in between. >> because it seems like -- thank you very much. >> it seems like every thanksgiving if you have a big group, sometimes it does deinvolve into a political discussion. >> by the way, guns don't make you safe. put the gun down. and the cranberry sauce. can i tell you to put down the hand gun? what is going on here? >> it's in your topics for turkey day. coming up, a lot of people are talking about michael brown's stepfather. >> [ bleep ] [ bleep ] >> what some people say about this. it may surprise you. a school banning christmas because one family complained. really? well, the other parents fired up. you're going to hear from them straight ahead. ♪ ♪ a fox news alert. more fury in ferguson after the grand jury's decision sparking an outcry of burning rage from protesters. rioters setting this police car on fire. >> what's going on? what goes on through the mind of a protester? let's ask psychiatrist dr. keith ablow. people are upset. >> good morning. >> some react one way, others violently. what's the difference? >> well, listen. i think as to the violence, you have to wonder whether among the explanations could be a kind of self-loathing because people project their feelings outside of themselves. if you think of kids who feel like, man, i did the wrong thing. i've been sent to my room, and then they bust the room up, they throw everything, that's a kind of analogy here that the community filled with the kind of feeling that they're not effective, that they wish that they could be doing better in life, maybe because they haven't been given enough full-time jobs, for example, are prime by leaders, the wrong leaders to say you have justifyiable. rather than to say what's going on with our young men? why is there a high rate of violence within our community? why don't we have the kinds of jobs that we wish we did? is it our leadership? even our leadership in washington. leadership in the state house? where is it? >> i want to ask you this. on monday video emerged of michael brown's stepfather at the rally. we're going to play it and i love your analysis. take a watch. >> sure. >> how do you explain that? >> well, now this is refreshing because we dispense race. how would oatlike have that guy as your stepfather? you think you'd turn out okay? >> dr. keith, do you give a pass to the immediate family to have some rage or outrage and not a pass to others? >> file a lawsuit if you have rage. give a moving speech if you have rage. this guy obviously, you wouldn't want him in your house as your stepfather. this guy helped raise someone who broke the law, who stole from a convenience store, who then was dismisssive of authority, who then apparently attacked the police officer and because of that, this man has lost his son. he should be wondering, boy, am i the kind of guy who set the stage for my son to have his life ended tragically by a police officer because i raised him the wrong way? well, it's looking a lot like that, isn't it, from this psychiatrist's vantage point. >> i see a family, i guess personally i kind of step and think, well, maybe the family can have some rage. everyone else is taking advantage of it. what about those who are masked? the anonymous looters wearing those white masks. what do you think of them, brave enough to come out and do what they're doing? >> psychiatry is wonderful because you can see so many things seemingly obvious but a bit in disguise. if you have no identity and you're going from protest to protest wearing a mask, you might be expressing rage and violence wherever you can or protest because you don't feel like you have anything inside, nothing else defines you. so with a mask on, you become the protester. that's your identity? yeah, for some people that's their identity. >> or don't want to get caught. maybe something as simple as that. >> you should join the practice, my friend. >> maybe. >> we always appreciate your analysis. >> thanks. >> take care. he is a motivational speaker who inspired nobody. >> you people are here trying to do a good job. don't waste your time. it doesn't do you any good. the customers don't care about it and neither do you. >> was this smoking clown invited back on the taxpayers cash? >> then he was drafted during the vietnam war. instead of dodging duty, now this american hero says the best decision he ever made was going to war. he joins us live. ♪ ♪ welcome back. we have quick headlines for you now. isis militants making millions of dollars in ransom payments. new estimates show they have received up to $45 million in the past year alone. ransom payments have become so profitable for militant groups. al-qaeda use kidnapping as their main source of revenue. special oches lead ago daring early morning lead in yes, ma'am ton save eight hostages. they have been taken by an al-qaeda affiliate. the u.s. commandos and support teams flown into eastern yemen where they raided a mountain side cave, killing seven of the captors. steve? it is one for the record books. ralph rigby, the last u.s. army's last vietnam era draftee is leaving the army after many years. he was first drafted at age 19 and brieflyt showing up. but instead, he wound up staying and had an amazing military career. and he joins us right now with his incredible story. good morning to you, ralph. >> good morning. >> a real pleasure. >> thank you. >> let me take you back to that day. go to the mailbox and there it is. greetings, ralph. >> i looked at it and that afternoon or evening when my mom got home from work, i made a comment to her that i should just go to canada like a lot of the other guys did. >> because it was to vietnam. >> and i had concerns about going over there at all. and so -- she looked at me and says, you're not going to canada. you got a duty to your country and if go to canada, you don't have to worry about the government. you got to worry about me. i'll come up there and kick your butt all the way back down here and then you'll go. >> all right. so you did wind up going. you wound up going to korea, right? >> right. i wound up december 72 in a hawk missile site as a generator operator and mechanic. i liked it over there and when it came time for me to get out, i actually went ahead and went active reserves for a year with duty in korea and stayed over there. i wound up liking it so much, i enlisted. >> here you are. >> and here i am now retiring out of my sixth tour in korea. >> that's fantastic. what was it you loved about the military? >> a lot of different challenges. i never put anything into a five-year plan. everybody says you got to have a plan. my only plan, my basic plan was to complete my next duty assignment. and i took it assignment by assignment. i blinked and 42 years is gone. >> it's funny how that works. while you were the last draftee who is now retiring, you think that the draft is not a bad idea? >> i think they ought to continue and start the draft back up. >> why? >> that's personal opinion. you get a wider diversity and mix of people. you get kids and carpenters. you get all kinds of different skills and they may not be the skills the army teaches you, but you can ask in your platoon and you could almost go build a house or build a city. >> those are skills that you carry with you the rest of your life. after decades of service to the u.s. military, what's your next stop? what are you going to do now that you're retiring? >> i'm really not sure. i'm contemplating a couple of different possibilities on gs jobs, maybe going back to work for the government or army, going back to korea or depending -- >> so you're not ready to go fishing yet? >> no. i'm nowhere near ready to go fishing yet. it's mandatory to get old. it's only optional to grow up. >> very wise words. congratulations. >> thank you. >> a real pleasure. thank you very much and good luck in your retirement, although it doesn't sound like you'll be relaxing. >> thank you very much. >> thanks for your service from all of us. that's great. 28 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, president obama and the mainstream media quick to the mic when it comes to ferguson. but what about cases like this? >> we did not hear them say anything about the 19-year-old new jersey teen-ager, brendan devlin, who was gunned down by a black self proclaimed jihaddist. >> the colonel is right. where is the outrage there? he's the motivational speaker who inspired nobody. he's supposed to be funny. but was the smoking clown invited back to burn through more of our taxpayer cash at another big gsa convention? we've got the answer coming up. what were they smoking? ♪ ♪ a massive nor'easter threatening the busiest travel day of the year. >> that's today we're talking about. snow and ice interrupting plans for millions of americans going to somebody's house. >> doug luzader has been traveling the dc roads. how is it looking out there and did they give you any salt to help the others? >> reporter: a lot of people are going to need help out here. 46 million, i guess, according to aaa traveling more than 50 miles this year, which is a seven-year high, by the way. look outside, the problem right now isn't so much volume. it's this weather. we're seeing a fair amount of rain right now and the problem is, especially if you head farther up the coast, this is going to start to turn to snow. that's going to make travel conditions pretty bad in the nation's highways. but also for air travel as well. while this is primarily going to affect the northeast, there is the potential for that cascading impact across the country. >> it looks like you're on the dulles access road today. it also looks like the driver is running the camera. is that right? >> no. this would be me running the camera. >> very good. >> that's a selfy. >> that's great. >> that's a moving selfy. >> so would you say you feel safe on the road right now? yes or no? >> yeah. i think we're pretty safe. conditions -- it's starting to get a little bit more crowded. some of this is obviously just people going to work today. but you have a lot of people getting up for an early start for thanksgiving as well, which is always helpful heading into what's going to be a very busy holiday. the other thing i'll add, gas prices down 40 cents a gallon from last year. that's certainly making it easier to travel. >> easier on the wallet. we'll let you get your eyes back on the road. thanks and happy thanksgiving as we turn our eyes to maria molina. everyone is hanging on your every word because all the travel depends on the weather and you've got the weather for us. what's happening? >> that's right. good morning. we're tracking our storm system that's going to be moving up the coast throughout today. i have to tell you, just here in new york city, we've already been seeing some changes since early this morning. temperatures were a little warmer in the overnight hours, upper 40s. they are dropping now, in the low 40s. we're seeing the colder air to help transition rain to snow. look for example radar, you can see areas of rain across florida, parts of the carolinas, up into the mid-atlantic and right here as well in new york city. we already have some snow showing up on the radar. you can see the specks of white across virginia and also west virginia. that means that snow is coming down heavily. taking a look at the computer models here, you can see that rain-snow line, that mix is going to be heading up right along parts of new york city and new england. where it's cold enough, parts of upstate new york, new england, parts of pennsylvania, you will be seeing that snow coming down quite heavily and that's why we do have winter storm warnings in effect for a very widespread area with some people expecting more than a foot of snow across portions of new england. otherwise across the rest of the country, expecting some snow and very cold temperatures across parts of the midwest. travel issues there expected. and also across northern rockies. let's head back inside. >> all right. thank you very much. live report just outside the door where it is lousy. >> maybe there are some snow angels for thanksgiving will be upon us. >> for those who like to use thanksgiving to put up christmas lights, you might have to put that on pause. it's time to hit play and push that on ainsley. >> never know what you're going to say. let's tell you what's happening in the news. while you are spending thanksgiving with your family, a group of military members are spending it in ebola isolation. the 1515 service members and one defense department civilian just returned from liberia where they were helping fight the disease. none of them was exposed to ebola patients and they have no symptoms so far. remember the luxurious and controversial general service administration conference in vegas? complete with this clown. >> you people are here trying to do a good job. don't waste your time. it doesn't do you any good. the customers don't care about it. and neither do you. >> now we learn that they did it again. one year after that infamous 2010 conference, staffers returned to the resort for another taxpayer-funded meeting. this time they left the clown at home. however, a few of invoices did find the entire conference cost you, the taxpayer, about $2,500 per person. a massachusetts school district replacing the term christmas vacation with holiday break after one complaint from one family. furious teachers, parents and teachers, packing the auditorium, voicing their outrage. >> we want christmas back on our school calendar. >> despite 4,000 signatures from residents, they are urging officials to reconsider the change will become official this week. and in england, a man uses a flock of sheep to propose to his girlfriend. a clever pun, will you marry me? a ewe is a female sheep. luck you're for him she said yes. >> wow. >> how do you get the sheep to stay in place and not scramble. >> it could have gone bad. >> how do you train the sheep to do anything? >> thank you, ainsley. >> let's change gears. one police chief tells it like it is. >> some of the people here gave a good god damn about the victimization of people in this community by crime, i take some of their invective more seriously. >> milwaukee's police chief here live. plus, we're going to the dogs. check out some of the national dog show's newest members. they're going to be on the set along with david himself who is giving them hugs straight ahead. ♪ ♪ time for news by the numbers. first, today is verizon connection day and wireless carrier is wishing you a happy thanksgiving with a bunch of freebies. first, ten. that's how many free or discounted apps you can get on amazon. next, seven days. that's the length of a free trial you can register for on pandora 1, where i get all my free music. 30 minutes. that's how long you can connect to in-flight wi-fi on go-go if you're flying jetblue. it's free. >> thanksgiving we know is going to the dogs right now. >> it's time for the national dog show. the most viewed dog show in america. >> here is the co-host of the event for the past 13 years. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> nice to be here. >> what's new? >> well, these are two of our buddies. let's start with butler. he's one of our therapy dog ambassadors for the national dog show presented by purina. weather channel therapy dog visits sites of natural disasters around the country. he's a shepherd mix. >> good work. >> the weather channel dispatches the dogs? >> the dog goes to the sites and helps calm things down. >> and leave it to the mutt, the kindest. when it comes to the pure breed, we have a new introduction. >> one is the wire haired vishla like oliver. he's two. wire haired vishlas are related to the smooth coated one. >> why would i get one of these? how would he profile the owner of one? >> they would probably have to be as active as their dog. they're very active hunting dogs. beautiful athletic dog that can move. they've added this wire coat to the german wire haired pointer to help them in the wild, and to hunt. >> what else can we look forward to? >> well, it's the same as always. great competition. 175 different breeds and varieties there. >> my kids love it. >> you're supposed to love it. we think it's a great family holiday, great tradition on thanksgiving day. >> what is also interesting is you also bet on the air. >> that's it. we want people to get involved with it. even though it's taped, people night know who the winner is if you ask the right people -- >> you know what is amazing about the dog shows you're involved in is even though people have dogs at home, sometimes the dogs are a hassle, i got to walk and feed them of the we love them so much, these shows are so highly rated. >> well, dogs are members of our family. >> absolutely. >> people like to celebrate their dogs by being part of the show. if i'm sitting home with my dog, i want to see him on the show. >> the dogs like to see them. >> you don't know that, elisabeth. >> i do. >> here is the thing, a lot of times you sit there going, how come that dog listens and you sit there and ignore everything die? >> weigh say that a lot. you have to be out there, a few less cookies. >> that's right. >> the national dog show presented by purina airs thanksgiving day at noon. so check it out on what channel? >> on nbc. >> there you go. >> thank you. >> thank you oliver and but but. this coming up next, one police chief telling it like it is. >> if some of the people here gave a good god damn about the victimization of people in this community by crime, i'd take some of their invective more seriously. >> that exploding on the internet. that police chief is here live with us next. a police chief turning the tables on protesters who confronted him over the death of a milwaukee man at the hands of a police officer. the crowd lashing out at a public meeting after the chief was seen check his cell phone. his response putting critics in their place. listen. >> the five-year-old little girl who got shot in the head by a drive-by shooting. if the people here gave a god damn about victimization of crime, i would take some of their invective more seriously. the greatest racial disparity is getting shot and killed. hello? 80% miff homicide victims every year are african-american. they know all about the last three people that have been killed by the milwaukee police department over the course of the last several years. there is not one of them can name one of the last three homicides victims we've had in this city. the fact is, that the people out here, some of them, led the most -- are absolutely mia when it comes to the true threats facing this community and it gets a little tiresome. when you start getting yelled at from reading the updates from the kid that gets shot, yeah, you take personal. >> how did residents respond to those words? he joins us right now with the fallout and the aftermath. there is a lot of people looked at that and said man, that was a real passionate answer to a major, major problem. chief, thank you for joining us. set the scene. you kind of defined it a little for me in the break. so set the scene that led to that stand-off after the meeting. >> there were a number of people at the police commission meeting voicing their concern, anger and in many cases hostility about the police department. last april we had a shooting that was controversial that resulted in the death of a homeless mentally ill man and stirred broad public concern that was not unjustified. but people came to that meeting to be extremely vocal and aggressive in their manner. and they caught me looking at my cell phone while they were yelling at me. and as i indicated, i was getting updates on the shooting of a little girl who was sitting on grandpa's lap being read to and obviously that is the issue we're dealing with here, isn't it, in cities that are plagued by crime in their most disadvantaged neighborhoods. it's children being shot. it's young adults being shot. it's the future of our neighborhoods being robbed by violent people who are armed with firearms and don't care who they shoot. that's their core of urban policing and obviously as we get assailed for those rare events nationally that are controversial, it can be frustrating. >> i heard that in your voice. you also say something about stats. in terms of race and crime in milwaukee, 85% of homicide arrests are of black people. 91% of suspected of homicide are black. 78% of homicide victims are black. you kind of brought that up. hey, we're trying to stop what's happening and a lot of it's black on black crime. >> the frustrating thin thing for me, and allow me to word smith a little bit. what we have is an incredible disparity in who is victimized by violent crime. let's not forget the victims. most are repeat offenders. our communities inhabited by people of color, are trying to -- you would never know the number of community partners we have and authentic community leaders who every day are trying to do something about crime and disorder in their neighborhoods. but they never get quoted. they never get sought for an interview. the only way you get on tv is scream invective and yell the loudest. that's very frustrating for police chiefs 'cause we see guys showing up on tv accusing us of all kinds of things that we've never seen before. we go to neighborhood meetings and those disadvantaged communities and they want one thing from cops, protection. and they work with them because they know their children's future depends on their safety. that's where the important battles are being fought and a lot of this stuff is a cynical distraction from the real work. >> you're convinced that a lot of the rabble rowsers are coming from outside. that's what they've been saying in ferguson up until the last couple of days. that's what you're saying, too. correct? >> there is no question about it we got a big community of hipsters in town waving their signs and we don't get a heck of a lot of invective from the people who actually live and work in this city. we have a grieving family, controversial shooting whom i respect for their restraint. but we've got people attaching themselves to those demonstrations that are actively trying to turn them violent and that's wrong and it's underreported. >> yeah. i just saw obviously the five-year-old getting shot on his grandfather's lap did not get national attention, but everything else did. there has been 170 protests last night regarding what happened in ferguson. what do you expect on this thanksgiving? how are you preparing? >> well, we are working with the family here. last night we had a protest. i think we got up to 100 people marching around. half of whom i think were out of town. we policed it carefully. we allowed them their scope to talk and yell. we did not have any significant incidents last night. so obviously we're preparing for other eventualities. but so far our demonstrations have been peaceful. >> yeah. people are looking at cops as if they're row botts. i saw the real park and that's what i saw was so important to talk to you today. police chief, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> have a great thanksgiving. we prepare for our final hour. coming up, our in-box is exploding. peter johnson, jr. answering your questions about michael brown and the ferguson case. keep them coming. then when the white house pushes states around, she's not afraid to push back. so what does arizona governor jan brewer think about the president's executive action on immigration as a border state? she joins us live next hour. good morning. today is wednesday, november 26. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. you know the saying, there is no place like home. but for thousands of americans, it's proving to be impossible to get there. we have the break details on the major nor'easter pounding the nation. meanwhile, officer darren wilson breaks his silence on television. he says it was kill or be killed >> see his hand trying to come over my hand and get inside the trigger and try and shoot me with my own gun and that's when i pulled the trigger for the first time. >> and already the headlines are reading like this: cold as ice. that's better than yesterday. yesterday the newspaper referred to him as killer cop. what do you think about those headlines? we're going to report and you will decide. this is your captain speaking. i'm sorry. i shouldn't have paused. we'll need you -- i was distract ed. >> outside the airplane and push. >> if you want to get home, push that way. >> mornings are better with friends. i got nothing. >> this is your captain speaking welcome. it's 8:00 o'clock in new york city. breaking news right now out of mainly hills, near ferguson, missouri, two f.b.i. agents have been shot. we're told that their injuries are not life-threatening. we understand one guy was shot in the shoulder. >> that's right. the agents were shot serving a search warrant, the f.b.i. is saying. it was not related to the protests in ferguson. >> the suspect is 32-year-old major washington. he's wanted for the murder of his mother and shooting another officer. it's believed he's still barricaded inside the house. we'll keep you updated with more information. clearly a bad character. another night of violence in ferguson, missouri. >> watch this terrifying moment vandals set this police car on >> joining us now live from ferguson with the breaking details on what's happening this morning is adam housley. good morning to you. >> good morning. that video was right here on the street of only a few feet from where i'm standing right now. the one area of town the vandals really had not yet hit. last night they did get to some businesses around here. i'll show you where it looks like you can see back to normal. this road was shut down this morning when we got here. there were national guard troops all around. they pulled back a bit now that the sun comes up because they don't have near low as many problems. very few problems during the day. but down the street is where that car was set on fire. we had the video. it's dramatic. it shows you they tipped it up on its side for a moment. it fell back almost on top of a couple of the protesters or vandals, however you want to call them. then they eventually set it on fire. one protester actually set himself on fire trying to use a molatov cocktail. here comes an ambulance. you'll hear a siren. basically what happened was as they started to light the car on fire, it was the first time the national guard came in along with the police and dispersed the crowd. they put them back on the sidewalk and took and got everybody basically to calm down. a lot of people here were saying this morning why didn't they do that the night before? why didn't they be more aggressive with these vandals? that's really what a lot of them are. while there are some peaceful protesters, there has been a lot of vandalism, a lot of damage. a lot of businesses dealt with fires and being broken into and looted. last night they only got to a couple of them. but thankfully that way they within after them was one of the positive ways that they stopped the situation. >> looks like city hall got it the worst. real quick, in your opinion, 'cause things have been as bad last night as the night before if it wasn't bolstered up security? >> reporter: absolutely. no doubt about it. we were watching it, brian, both fox news crews here on the ground, those watching it from further away. everybody was really keeping an eye on it, even locals, i was talking with the head of security for the hockey team here last night. he was talking about everybody was really watching to see what the national guard and what the police did here on night two because night one, as we know, didn't work at all. whatever they did last night, it actually worked because that crowd was growing. it was getting more violent. when they stopped in and walked into the middle of them and separated them, it stopped it. >> amazing. >> we thank you very much. live reports from the streets of ferguson. the protests and the rioting and looting in response to the fact that officer darren wilson was not indicted by that grand jury. we haven't seen him speak until last night on abc, george stephanopoulos got the exclusive report, reportedly they did not pay anything for this particular interview. he started by saying that essentially this is him recounting the story. he saw michael brown who he believed had been involved in a robbery of cigars down at one of the shops in that neighborhood. he told him to get out of the street because he was walking down the middle of the street and then this happened. >> he threw the first punch? >> yes. he threw the first one and hit me on side of the face. >> some of the witnesses said they saw you trying to pull him into the car. >> that would be against every training that ever taught to law enforcement. i just felt the immense power he had. the way i described t it was like a five-year-old holding on to hulk hogan. i said get back, i'm gog shoot you. his response immediately, he grabbed the top of my gun. when he grabbed it, he said you're too much of a [ bleep ] to shoot me. i felt his hand try and shoot me with my own gun and that's when i pulled the trigger for the first time. >> why not stay in the car? he's running away? >> because my job isn't to just sit and wait. i have to see where this guy goes. >> so you thought it was your duty to give chase? >> yes, it was. that's what we are trained to do. when he stops, he turned and faced me. as does he that, his right hand immediately goes into his waistband and his left hand is a fist and he starts champing me. >> what did you think when you saw that? >> i didn't know. my initial thought was -- >> even though he hadn't pulled anything out? >> it was the unknown. again, we're taught to let me see your hands. >> as you know, some of the eyewitnesses have said at that moment he turned around, he turned around and put his hands up. >> that would be incorrect. >> no way? >> no way. >> do you hear that? some are describing him as cold. we heard from our viewers here, saying this is methodical, he went through his training, operated within the trains. that's familiar to law enforcement across the country. but straight from his lips, you could not take your eyes off of that moment. >> we still want to know what you think about that. because everyone has different takes. steve, you said cold as ice. i just thought he was methodical, going through it. >> just recounting it. >> and so young. >> that was my take, too. the reason i have a clean conscience, he says because i nodi my job right. doesn't mean he's happy about it. but that's what you're trained to do. >> protests across the nation had the president talk being this again yesterday. this time he was in chicago, actually trying to garner some support for his immigration executive action there. ferguson did come up. a lot of people wondering, why didn't he mention the homicides that have occurred there? through october, 331 total homicides right there in chicago, from january to september of 2014. age group of 17 to 25-year-olds, there have been 135 homicides. why so silent on those lives that are lost? that is a large group right there, y young individuals dying at the hands of another. >> those sentiments and those stats were not lost on lieutenant colonel allen west. listen. >> what i do find very hypocritical is that president obama, nor eric holder, has said anything about the four black gang members who brutally kidnapped captain quick and murdered him. we did not hear them say anything about the 19-year-old new jersey teen-ager, brendan devlin, who was gunned down by a black self-proclaimed jihaddist. we heard them say nothing about the two black teen-agers that bludgeoned to death a world war ii okinawa veteran in spokane, washington, nor about the black teen-ager who shot a young toddler in the face in brunswick, georgia. i think that the country has to really get tired of this cherry picking of these instances of their perceived social justice and their own agenda that they're trying to use for their own elevation. and this really is getting quite despicable. >> surely. and then you look at the story about what happened on the street in ferguson back in august to begin with. how many times did you hear the narrative that it was an unarmed black teen-ager who was killed on the street by a white police officer? bernie goldberg was on with o'reilley last night and he said there are some people who are trying to turn this into a black-white thing. he said this is not a civil rights issue. here is his reasoning. >> michael brown that day stole stuff from a little convenience store and then roughed up the owner who was half his size. michael brown then thought he would get away with, according to the grand jury, with roughing up a cop. he brought about his own demise. it's a tragedy. when any 18-year-old is killed. and especially for the parents. we certainly sympathize with that. but michael brown was the bad guy in this case and please, america, let's not turn this kid into some kind of civil rights martyr because that, he is not. >> remember, it was all about michael brown. we know even darren wilson's name and we learned his name. then we saw blurry pictures. now you saw the interview. now you fully know most people that were involved in this. so you can make your own opinion. let us know from what you now know where you stand on this case on facebook or on e-mail. >> right now we're going to turn to ainsley who has more of what's going on this morning for you. >> thank you so much. new video in of the snow coming down pretty hard in washington county, maryland. look at that. a massive nor'easter expected to drop up to 14 inches across the northeast. snow and ice disrupting thanksgiving plans for millions of americans. 250 flights already canceled out of new york, new jersey, and the dc areas. thousands more are expected. aaa estimates 46 million people will try to travel 50 miles or more for thanksgiving. a new case of home grown terror in minnesota. two men indicted for aiding isis. one, an 18-year-old guy, stopped at an airport on his way to the middle east. and now his lawyer says investigators have it all wrong. >> this young man is far from being a threat to anyone. he is not one of the organizers. >> the other suspect slipped past the f.b.i he is now fighting for isis in syria. some community leaders say prosecutors are going after the wrong guy. >> instead of running up to little 18, 17-year-old kid who was brainwashed, confused, why not go after the big guys? >> about a dozen minnesota residents traveled to syria to fight with isis within the last year. a top contender to succeed defense secretary chuck hagel just dropped out of the running. but a new name, one that you know, was just thrown into the mix. former defense official, michelle flournoy, taking herself out of contention. sources say that she wants to be hillary clinton's pentagon chief. as for the new name that's being tossed around. reports say that homeland security chief jay johnson is being considered for the job. fox news contributor pete hegseth saying this earlier on "fox & friends." >> who would want the job right now, is the problem? after you mow through three defense secretary, shouldn't you be asking, maybe it's not them. maybe it's me? shouldn't the president be asking, am i the one pushing these guys out because of these ridiculous policies? >> the president's pick will be the first cabinet level change since the midterm election. and a swedish extreme sports team making an unlikely and now life long friend. arthur the dog, following team peak performance. he was found deep inside the jungle. one member gave him a meat ball and the bond was sealed. arthur followed the team through the amazon until the trek was complete. he likes meat balls. he must be italian, that dog. >> they have meat balls in the jungle? >> apparently so. >> that's something. >> thanks. remember i told you about my parakeet. one day he/x÷dé2 flew into thet balls and he never recovered. they were in sauce. he went right for the sauce. coming up, reaction to officer wilson's interview is pouring in right now. many of you are outraged with this headline, cold as ice. we will read some of your comments coming up next. and sorry, kids. they are taking christmas right off the calendar. that's right. one school making a controversial change because one family complained about it. is that fair? we report. you decide. ♪ ♪ a fox news alert. while you were sleeping, protests raged across ferguson, missouri and cities across the country. right now our in box is filling up with your questions. here to answer them, fox news legal analyst, peter johnson, jr. >> good morning. hi, everybody. >> good morning. ron on twitter is asking this, why is obama still pursuing an investigation? does he have the power to overturn the grand jury decision? >> i believe he's pursuing an investigation because it's politically beneficial to him and his administration to do so. the doj is looking and they've had a parallel investigation to the state investigation. as we know, the grand jury decided no true bill, no indictment. i believe, and we were talking earlier, elisabeth, that the federal government will keep this investigation open as long as possible. >> to maintain the narrative? >> maintain the narrative, keep mr. wilson under thumb in terms of his public statements. mollify and assuage. certain communities that are upset about this decision, and send a signal that the doj is upset about police conduct in america generally. i believe it would be a political prosecution. but in the end, it will not be brought. >> okay. abbey on twitter asks, can the state intervene to protect darren going forward? >> it can protect him if he's the subject of some criminal intent. the state has an obligation if they are on notice that someone wants to do harm to officer wilson to protect him. i hope he's being protected at this time. is that a permanent situation that goes forward? absolutely not. he will be on his own and he will be subject to whatever public whims there are. but he appears to be a strong guy, well-spoken man who understands what happened on that night and is cleared in terms of his own conscience. >> do you think the family will pursue a civil suit? what could come of that? >> unfortunately, the state holder, most important stake holders going forward appear to be the lawyers, appear to be the lawyers benefits from statutory fees from a wrongful death lawsuit brought under a civil rights action. we expect, we anticipate that there will be a wrongful death lawsuit in which even if the family receives one dollar, the lawyers who bring that lawsuit could receive hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars in terms of that. so we have to understand the dynamic in these types of situations, especially when lawyers are involved. our laws guarantee legal fees to lawyers in these situations if they win even one dollar. >> interesting out there into motivation from the legal side. an e-mail says this, the big white house liberal newspaper mo further and destroy darren wilson. look at this right here. we see cold as ice on the daily news cover here. >> the tone of attack will continue. he will become the subject of a lot of the attacks at rallies, on extremely liberal television networks, by leaks in the doj, and he will become subject to a lot of suspicion and ridicule going forward. he needs to continue to tell his story if, in fact, that continues. the grand jury said that he did not commit a crime. >> okay. peter johnson, jr. >> good morning and happy thanksgiving. >> thank you for sending your questions. keep them coming. happy thanksgiving. this coming up, a stunning reversal, senator chuck schumer changing his mind about obamacare. just wait until you hear what he is saying now and who could forget the moment when governor jan brewer pointed her finger in the president's face? so what does she think about the president's executive action on immigration? stay tuned. you are about to find out on the curvy couch. on this wet wednesday in new york city, i've got your headlines. want an excuse to get out of doing the laundry? look at this video. that's giant sink hole that opened up at the very moment a woman was hanging her clothes on the clothes line. that happened in australia. she fell ten feet into the hole. rescuers pulled her out. she's doing just fine. as you can see, the laundry is now dry. then it's like something out of the movies. europe won in paris, france. the two men made off on scooters after robbing a cartier jewelry store in paris. they didn't get very far. cops arrested them a short time later. and this is your captain speaking. we're going to need you to get out and push the airplane because we're stuck in the ice. they were in russia and the captain asked them to push the plane out and free it from the ice. temperature outside the airplane was 58 degrees below zero. and that is the news. >> thanks, steve. the president has a message for anyone who is upset about his executive action on immigration. stop complaining. >> now, you're absolutely right that there have been significant numbers of deportations. that's true. but you're not paying attention to is the fact that i just took an action to change the law. >> so what about the states? are they forced to implement his actions? don't they have the right to have their voices heard? joining us now is governor jan brewer. welcome to the couch. >> thank you. >> welcome to our bad weather. you have great weather that you just left. so your reaction to the president's action, do you have any recourse? >> well, we would like to believe that we do. certainly we hope that the -- >> is it the earring? >> no, it's the ifp. >> i'm so sorry. >> turned up too loud. >> anyway, what he has done is absolutely wrong and unjust and certainly unconstitutional. i believe that people out there believe that we could take action, end up in court again. but i heard from -- >> texas is suing, right? >> governor-elect abbott called yesterday. i was in the air, so when i landed, i got an e-mail and so i'm going to review that and see just exactly what it is and how we can join with him to see if something can be done. >> this executive action falls directly on the backs of the state in costs and operation. looking at driver's licenses, in-state tuition, health insurance. can you outline for us what exactly it means for a state to be faced with this executive action right around the corner? >> it's horrendous. financially it's a killer. we're still in economic concerns that we've been facing for the last two years. and to be forced upon us to take care of these people and educate them, provide health care for them, social security for them, the bottom line is that we simply cannot afford it. the united states is the largest country in the world that allows immigrants to come n but we are a nation of laws. we believe in the rule of law. >> i'm glad you said that. famously, we've got that image of you on the tarmac with the president of the united states. if you were face-to-face with the president today regarding what he did, what would you tell him? >> today i think i would say, mr. president, i've invited to you my border for six years. you have never come. we have an issue. we have a problem. nothing will be resolved, mr. president, until you see with your own eyes the issues that we're all facing and it's up to you to lead this country and do it constitutionally. >> i got a feeling you would say that. it's great to have you here. >> thank you. >> you soon in that state, you'll is a doocy for a governor. >> i am! >> we spell it differently. so as you come to new york city, i know you're involved in some other economic things for your state. you got to be proud about how it all turned out for your governorship. >> i am. i absolutely have no regrets. we accomplished so much in the last six years that we weren't able to accomplish maybe for the last 25 years with reform, tax reform, business reform. it's been amazing. >> i'm sure -- >> and an honor to have served a wonderful state of arizona after having served in all different kinds of offices for 33 years. i'm proud of my record. 24-0 in elections. that's pretty darn good. >> lot to reflect on. >> i do. >> have a happy thanksgiving. >> thank you so very much. >> we promise to have the rain turned off for the parade tomorrow, which you're going to be in attendance at. >> i appreciate that. like my mother used to say, you're not so sweet. you won't melt. >> good line. >> thank you. this coming up, he's motivational speaker who inspired nobody. >> you people are here trying to do a good job. don't waste your time. it doesn't do you any good. the customers don't care about it and neither do you. >> why was the smoking clown invited back to burn through more of your taxpayer cash? >> then she catered to jimmy fallon, mitt romney marks rye i can't carey. but today she's taking on the ultimate challenge. what to give kids for thanksgiving. >> who don't like anything with a turkey, stuffing, giblets. ♪ ♪ new extreme weather video into fox showing snow coming down hard in washington county, maryland. a massive nor'easter is hitting the northeast right now. it could possibly put a damper on holiday travel for millions of you watching. >> already this morning, at least 300 flights have been canceled in new york, new jersey, massachusetts, and the dc area getting hit the hardest so far as more delays are expected. >> maria molina is tracking the storm. she promised to. what is the latest? >> good morning. i have to say, just here in new york city, we've been seeing some changes over the last several hours. we have the rain coming down, but temperatures have continued to drop. we're at 40 degrees now. it was in the upper 40s earlier this morning. that's a sign the nor'easter starting to pull in the colder air and we'll see transition from rain to snow in many areas across the northeast. you have rain in florida, also raining up into parts of new jersey, new york city, and even into parts of new england. taking a look at the future radar, you can see that white stuff, that's all snow coming down across parts of pennsylvania, upstate new york, and also into new england. we do have winter storm warnings in effect. the other concern besides rain or snow is how windy it's going to be out there. you're looking at gusts up to 40 miles per hour. so that should be causing delays as well. as far as snow accumulation goes, you could see more than a foot of it across portions of new england. also interior northeast. looking at the i-95 corridor, that rain-snow line is set up along the big cities. a bit of a slushy mess. steve, elisabeth, and brian, if we see some of the cold air mixing into places like new york city, potentially could look at snow totals getting bumped up a little bit. let's head back inside. >> get the shovel out. thank you. is underdog still in the thanksgiving day parade? >> don't know. >> we'll find out tomorrow. >> it's going to be a game day decision. ainsley, do you know? >> i do not know the answer to that. >> if you can write us on that. >> i'll have to look it up. the high ranking senate democrat turning his back on obamacare. new york chuck schumer blasting the president's signature law, saying it never should have pass ed. >> we took their mandate and put all of our focus on the wrong problem. health care reform. now, the plight of uninsured americans and the hardships caused by unfair insurance company practices certainly needed to be addressed, but it wasn't the change we were hired to make. >> instead, schumer says congress should have focused on the middle class more. and remember the controversial general services administration conference in vegas, complete with this clown? >> you people are here trying to do a good job. don't waste your time. it doesn't do you any good. the customers don't care about it and neither do you. >> well, they did it again. one year after that 2010 conference, staffers returned to the inn resort spa and casino for another taxpayer-funded meeting. this time they left a clown at home, but the entire conference cost you, the taxpayer, $2,500 per person. 45 million people went shopping on thanksgiving last year. but some stores are closing their doors this time around so that employees can stay at home and spend time withá families. one of the stores, dillard's department store. the spokesperson joined us earlier to explain why they are keeping the 76-year-old tradition alive. >> this is just the right thing to do. allowing them this time off with their families on this special day to kind of take a breather before things get really busy. if we honor our associates in the long run, they're going to honor our customers as well. >> dillard's, nordstrom, hobby lobby, home depot, just a few that are closed tomorrow. those are your headlines. >> thanks, ainsley. tomorrow when your family sits down to enjoy thanksgiving dinner, do not forget the kiddies table. it's important. here with some fun and recipes and ways to help with your littlest family member, chef and celebrity caterer. she catered to all kinds of a listers, like donald trump, jimmy fallon, and now steve doocy. >> and our children. >> i think this is a great idea. >> everyone always forgets about the kids' table. nobody ever wants to sit at it. if you make it fun and fabulous, they'll want to be there. >> where do we start? >> one of the fun things duke is have costumes for the kids. they can be indians and some could be pilgrims. as soon as you put those hats on, automatically, the whole table has a party. >> let's eat. let's start with the turkey. >> the first thing i have is instead of chicken nuggets, turkey nuggets. you make them the same as chicken nuggets. we put them in meese metal tins and personalize them with stickers and labels. >> you can use wild rice. when you put one at each place setting, they're great. to make these cones, take a piece of paper and you kind of fold over one side and you're good to go. >> we got the turkey. now the stuffing. >> these are stuffing muffins. they're done in little cupcake wrappers and when a kim sees that, they want to eat it. put the apples in it so it's a little healthier as well. >> it looks like a cupcake, they'll eat it. >> turkey pot pies. if the kids won't eat the turkey, do turkey and vegetables. make little pot pies. put one on each plate. they will love it. corn dogs. these are turkey corn dogs. they can easily buy them, but you make them. by making these little hats, i took wood napkin rings and construction paper and now they're mini pilgrims and the kids will want to eat them. >> this is a great centerpiece, too. >> absolutely. and the dipping 'causes can go in small pumpkins. ams are now the glass that you can serve the kids apple kreider in, which is really, really fabulous. >> they will love it. >> if you want to spike it up a little bit for the adults, you can use the proseco. that's the best. it's a perfect thing to serve alone. you can put it in your apple cider. it's great for the holidays. >> we're going to pop this open in 21 minute. >> every kid loves french fries. but you want to feed the kids healthy food. these are carrots. you can have them raw or easily put them in the oven. that's the cutter that you can use. it's a really easy crinkle cutter. you can cut any vegetable out. put them with dip. you have them in the little pots with a greenery and the kids will want to eat them. >> the kids will love it. they will eat it and be at their table. the adults can enjoy their conversation. love it. thank you. >> thank you. >> happy thanksgiving. >> moms and dads love you (this coming up, you know what we're thankful for this holiday? our next two guests. they are doing things to help serve this country and we can not wait to share it with you coming up on "fox & friends." ♪ ♪ here is something every american can be thankful for this thanksgiving. my next guest noticed a missing piece in the way we help our heros and he's going to fix it with some very special help from a very special person. we're joined by mark, the co-author of "13 hours," the inside account of what really happened in benghazi and his wife crystal. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> first off, tell me about the organization you started and who is not being served. >> she's come up with the idea for it, because of the things that we went through. shadow warrior project.org. >> when he was injured in benghazi in 2012, we really had no support, no help financially. so we wanted to reach out to other people and help. roughly 40,000 contractors and 40,000 spouses. over 100,000 children without help. >> right. now we showed that picture up there. that was when you were recovering after benghazi, right? >> yeah. that was me in the hospital in germany. >> so you still -- we serve you, the medical. we have the medical thing handled. but had you come back and he signs up, when you got home, what did you find out, crystal? >> after he was injured? >> yeah. >> i didn't have a clue. nobody called me. i didn't get a call. as a contractor's wife, you're not recognized. the children are unrecognized. that's what we want to change. >> right. so what is your organization going to do for the many contractors that have already served and will serve in this upcoming conflict? >> one is to give them a voice. and two is to provide that short-term support immediately for the families where a family needs to come out because their loved one is either injured or has been killed and there are so think of because you're in that emotional state. we want to be able to provide for those things, either monetarily or through charity support like that. then on the long-term, you have, again, 40,000, 50,000 contractors that have been in the middle east over the last ten years and they need that long-term care, ptsd issues, all of that kind of stuff that no one talks about, no one looks at who these guys are and what they do. and they're the ones serving our country. >> benghazi, you're in the line of fire. crystal, what was it like getting this guy back on his feet again? he was pretty banged up? >> yeah. it was a journey. it was a tough job. luckily -- i'm just thankful to have him here. >> it's not over. i've got another operation coming up in january just to try to still work to make it work. >> was it good for you to come on this show and others after the book came out and talk about the incident? was it good for you as well? what was that like doing 13 hours and being able to tell everybody what happened? >> it was really good. i think emotionally, it helped me a lot because it's frustrating not seeing the guys that were on the ground, ty woods, glenn dougherty, the ambassador, not being honored or recognized. this was a way for us as our team and us as a family to bring that out and recognize them that they should have been recognized a lot better than what they were. >> so if people want to help out and the contracts are going to play important roles as we look to take down isis and finish up in afghanistan, we go to information, the information on the foundation, www.foxandfriends.com and we'll have everything up there and people can help any way, anyhow. correct? >> absolutely. >> so they'll finally is a destination. >> yes. >> all right. thanks so much for coming in. congratulations on the success of the book. >> thank you very much. >> crystal, your first experience on television. you happy about it? >> yeah. >> the first is hard. the rest will be easy. as and crystal, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> coming up straight ahead, what's next for officer darren wilson? could he face a civil suit like o. j. simpson? bob massi covered the trial. he joins us live next. but first let's check in with bill or what's coming up on the top of his show before you join me on radio later. >> how you doing, brian? good morning to you. breaking news from ferguson on what worked overnight and what did not. rudy guiliani will take on the leadership we've seen in this crisis or the lack thereof. race relations. according to the white house and according to president obama in america today. also illegals will get taxpayer benefits. we'll examine why and why is chuck schumer saying the democrats blew it when they passed obamacare. we'll see you live in a few moments. great show from washington and new york city. top of the hour, 9:00 a.m. eastern time. we'll see you then. hey matt, what's up? i'm just looking over the company bills. is that what we pay for internet? yup. dsl is about 90 bucks a month. that's funny, for that price with comcast business, i think you get like 50 megabits. wow that's fast. personally, i prefer a slow internet. there is something about the sweet meditative glow of a loading website. don't listen to the naysayer. switch to comcast business today and get 50 megabits per second for $89.95. comcast business. built for business. even though the grand jury decided not to indict ferguson police officer darren wilson, seen right there last night on abc, in the shooting death of michael brown, what about a civil case? could that move forward? remember the courts found o. j. simpson not guilty of criminal murder charges in 1995 when he was on trial for the murders of nicole brown simpson and ronald goldman. but later a civil court found him liable for their deaths. there was a big sum of money he had to pay and supposedly is still doing it and isn't close to paying it off. joining us is fox news legal analyst, bob massi, who covered the o. j. simpson trials closely. he joinses from las vegas.kvhp @ all right. so bob, do you see similarities here? >> apples and oranges. on o.j., it's a private cause of action, so the family sued o.j. for wrongful death. nothing there could happen constitutionally. in this case, you're going to see a civil suit where the family is going to sue the municipality, that being the police department and the police officer as an individual for what we call a 1983 civil rights action and basically at that point in time, it's a completely different concept because you're basically saying that there were civil rights violations, in this case, probably the use allegedly of excessive force, and that lawsuit, i am sure, will be coming soon. >> so that suit is coming. but what about the fact that this grand jury out in ferguson, missouri looked at all the evidence, everything they had and said, there is not enough here to indict that guy? >> different burden of proof, of course. in a civil action, it's the preponderance of evidence. what they'll have to show here is that in order to prove this case, that this police officer used excessive force. he is under color of state law. in other words, he was a police officer acting under the umbrella of the state, in this case, the municipality. here is what they do, steve. they have to be able to show it's no monday morning quarterbacking. they have to say objectively, if a police officer was in this position, were his actions appropriate? were they in fact appropriate based on the facts of the case? so the civil case will go a different path, but they will, in fact, i am sure, file the civil rights action. and under the law, steve, they have the right, if they prevail, to get attorneys fees, which is why the civil rights action is so -- it's used a lot in federal court. >> speak of federal, there is a federal investigation. eric holder was talking yesterday. i want to play a sound bite for you, bob, because it's curious the language that our attorney general uses regarding the violence. here he is. >> it is clear i think that acts of violence threaten to drown out those who have legitimate voices, legitimate demonstrators and those acts of violence cannot and will not be condoned. >> okay. he's not going to condone it. great. >> he is our lawyer for the country. he represents all colors, all race, all origins in this country. he should be saying, as my lawyer, okay, he's my lawyer as white man in america, he should be saying, these people should be prosecuted. >> absolutely. >> he should be saying that these people ruined good people's businesses, who may never recover in this country. instead he says we are pursuing a federal investigation as it relates to what happened. but oh, by the way, we can't condone. ticker tape parade at my place when this guy is gone. to say that as the attorney general in this country as if he only represents one contingency is outrageous. and that's exactly why when he went there several months ago and made a statement, you make that statement as a private citizen. you do not make that statement while my tax dollars are paying for you as attorney general. you represent me as well as every other color in this country and i'm sick of it because this guy is as prejudiced as anybody else that walks in this situation! not that i don't have an opinion on this, by the way. >> i can see the frustration right there. you're not alone in that. clearly it looks like the attorney general who lawman, is being political. bob massi, we thank you very much for joining us. >> happy thanksgiving. >> to you as well. >> a little before the top of the hour. what are you thankful for this thanksgiving? we want to hear from you cominge up next. k/#éhñ this is the site of our kitchen. we put our thankfulness up there. we want you to send us your thankful nation. what are you thankful for? send us y e-mails and pictures. use #thankful. we'll share them tomorrow. >> that was your house? >> that was my house. bill: more arrests in ferguson. 44 arrested, bringing the total to 44 in two days. the national guard was brought in to keep things calm and that seemed to work. bill: good morning from washington, d.c., i'm bill hemmer. heather good morning to you in new york. heather: i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum. for the most part police lines held. protesters were able to hold the

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cambridge are celebrating their third anniversary. really? they returned to the uk on saturday after their 19-day tour of new zealand and australia. okay. that's it for "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ sterling insists he's not a racist. he says some of his best credit cards are black. i have an idea that would work for everyone. i will buy the team from donald sterling for $5,000. i would be proud to take the reins of once was and will again be the worst, nose miserable franchise in all of sports. let me say this. all of a sudden, not such a bummer to be a lakers fan this month anymore. >> good morning. it is tuesday, april 29th. look at that beautiful shot as the sun comes up over new york city. it's light out. >> it is light out. that is so amazing. >> with us on set we have editor for new york magazine and msnbc analyst john heilemann. >> but it's going to be 48 degrees the high. but it's going to be cold, but it's going to be raining. >> look, you all are here. and msnbc contributor mike barnicle is here. and in washington columnist and associate editor to "the washington post," eugene robinson. everybody's here. willie, hi. >> hi. >> hey, everybody. hey, everybody. >> right. >> so what's going on? there's a lot of stuff going on, mika. >> yes, there is. where do you want to begin? we can chat about the clippers owner. we could talk about, i don't know, john kerry's comments? >> oh, my gosh. ukraine. a lot of stuff in ukraine. >> there's a lot. >> so in light of op-eds, "the new york times" i thought had a great op-ed on the clippers owner. >> yeah. sure. >> john, do we have that really quickly? and i think they're bringing up a good point because everybody's so shocked and stunned and outraged at what this guy said on the tape. but "the new york times" editorial board writes why did the nba tolerate this for so long? "the times" writes this morning, the league's top leadership tolerated and sheltered mr. sterling for much too long. adam silver needs to make clear there's no place in the league for owners with plantation attitudes whether or not they're caught expressing them on tape. >> i totally agree. uh-huh. >> they're also the great -- gene has a fantastic op-ed on racism in america. and you've got "the washington post" and "wall street journal" both really critical of barack obama's latest round of sanctions against putin in russia. it's just been woefully inadequate. >> i think he had an incredible response to that criticism which we will air as well. >> i'm sure it was incredible. i can't wait. >> i'm sure you want to bomb everybody. you complain about war and then bomb everybody. please. >> if you're going to put sanctions in place, you would hope that after you put sanctions in place, the russian stock market doesn't go up. and the ruble doesn't go up on news of the tough sanctions. but we'll talk about that later. let's talk about the nba right now. >> later today the commissioner of the nba will weigh in on the alleged racist rant by l.a. clippers owner donald sterling four days after tmz first released the tapes. several sponsors already making their judgments. suspending or reviewing their deals with the clippers. some of the top brands includes virgin america, kia, state farm, samsung. the tapes capture sterling allegedly scolding his mistress for bringing african-americans to the games and posting photos of them on her instagram account. >> look at those two. who would know they were having problems? they look like they go together perfectly. that is a love story right there gone woefully wrong. look at them. >> she thinks he's so hot. >> what are they in five years about? >> she's like i have a winner here. >> she's there for love. >> and he's there for love too. >> both of them. >> seriously? >> that's a november/january romance. >> that's a december 31st/january 2nd romance. >> some old men ought to be ashamed of themselves and some very young women should be ashamed of themselves. >> that's what i was going to say. all right. mark cuban of the dallas mavericks cautioned against the league overreaching. >> really? really, mark cuban? >> saying there's no place in re schism in the nba. thank you for getting that on the record. any business i'm associated with and i don't want to be associated with people in that position but at the same time that's the decision i make. you have to be very careful when you make blanket statements about what people say and think opposed to what today do. it's a slippery slope. >> that's why the naacp was going to honor him because he's given money and done things until finally they couldn't because he said something so incredibly inappropriate. >> for the second time. they honored him once again. >> hypocrites. >> gene robinson, akeem abdul-jabbar has a fantastic op-ed in "time" magazine, but elgin baylor sued this guy for racial discrimination. we heard one complaint after another after another. come on. are we to believe david stern didn't know this crap was going on for decades? >> david stern was a really observant guy. he knew everything going on in the league. he knew donald sterling for 30 years or something like that. so of course he knew that -- he knew about the guy. you know, it's -- i mean, it's interesting because if you think about it, it does make a difference certainly to the players and to the coach doc rivers that this stuff all becomes public. they must have -- you know, they must have known this is not a guy who was probably going to invite them over for dinner. and that there was some ugliness inside there. but as long as it wasn't expressed every day and it wasn't expressed in this very public way, you know, i think they could feel comfortable. i think those are the people who are really, i think, really caught in this situation. the people who work and play for him. and so now publicly they have to associate themselves, you know, with this awful racist who thinks they're inferior and not part of his culture and not worthy of, you know, coming to his games unless he's paying them. >> really, the players are in a horrible position. last night i thought a great moment when the heat joined the silent protest. >> they did. they did the same thing the clippers did the night before. they revealed their warm-ups were inside out concealing their logo. not a statement about their own owner or team but showing solidity with what the clippers are going through. now these guys and doc rivers in the middle of their playoff series, they had a great season. they worked hard in their lives to get to this point are having to put up with this and answer questions about this around the clock. hopefully some pressure can come off them. it's amazing when you start at the beginning. it shows how deep if this tape is in fact donald sterling, how deep his racism is that he was upset that this woman brought magic johnson to a clippers game. one of the most beloved athle s athletes. >> that's like somebody in a restaurant in 1985 in london saying how dare you bring a woman like that to my restaurant pointing at margaret thatcher. >> it's terrible. but when you go deeper, it was magic -- he was upset that magic johnson was at his game. there's so much here. now, if you read -- >> which raises the question why was magic johnson at a clippers game? >> i think the picture actually was at -- they had dodgers gear on. but if you read cuban's full quote, he comes down very hard on sterling. we just read part of it there. but there is something to the idea that being reprehensible and being a racist and everything else is not grounds for having ownership taken away, but the free market can take care of it. free agents won't sign. fans stop coming to the game. and the other 29 owners can start coming down on him. that's happening already. in the space of 24 hours, that's already happening. >> i'm sorry, but, again, gene, this guy was getting awards from the naacp. i mean, come on. so it's just his money talking until his mouth actually finally does the wrong thing in public? >> you know, i got to think, mika, that's what it was. and i don't know. i don't know why it was the l.a. chapter of the naacp that voted and then very quickly voted to take away that award. and it wasn't the national naacp. be that as it may, i got to assume it's because of donations he made. i've read reports he gave some money, not huge amounts of money, but, you know, it's -- this was not secret. these lawsuits, these discrimination lawsuits are on the books and have been on the books for some time. the housing discrimination lawsuits that he settled for discriminating against black and mexican-american tenants. he was quoted as saying in one of the suits that he thought black tenants smelled bad. i mean, so this was out there. >> kareem abdul-jabbar said this. he worked for sterling in 2000 and wrote this about his former employer. quote, the poor guy's girlfriend undoubtedly ex-girlfriend now is on tape cajoling him into revealing his racism. man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out. she was like a sexy nanny playing -- okay. this is not the part of the thing i wanted to do. what kareem was saying, the part that i thought was fascinating was we're shocked and stunned now that we've got this guy on tape. and, you know, what's going to happen. we're going to attack him and then the parade is going to move on. when the bigger question is why didn't they address this a decade ago? >> a decade ago? how about a couple of decades ago? there's been seemingly indifference toward what donald sterling is for at least two decades among other nba owners. now, that might be oddly enough it might be the result of the fact that the other nba owners were pleased to have such a layup when they'd play the l.a. clippers. i mean, he was a loser running a losing team. you cannot discount that. you can also not discount the power of money in donald sterling's life. the corruption of cash. let's have an dinner and another one on me. when the justice department has him in court, it's shocking. >> it's worse than indifference. as a lot of people pointed out, the clippers were a joke franchise for a long time. the nba proactively intervened in the chris paul deal. david stern stepped in, squashed that deal and then sent chris paul to the clippers. that was the beginning of them being a series franchise. they took a positive sfep to build that franchise up and i think there's a lot of guilty -- there's a lot of responsibility and guilt to go around in the situation that allowed him to fester in the way he has. >> there should be a morals clause or something. would somebody with a history like that be working here? i don't think so. why are they allowed to be owners? turning to politics as we get closer to the midterm elections. new signs that president obama may be politically toxic for democratic candidates according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll. the approval rating is now at 41%. the lowest in this poll since the start of his presidency. he's also struggling on the major issues of the day. only 42% approve of his handling of the economy, 37% of the affordable care act, and 34% of his handling of the situation in ukraine. when voters were asked specifically if they'd rather have democrats in control in congress or republican majority to keep him in check, 53% sided with republican majority. >> wow. >> only 39% want democrats in charge. >> willie, do you have vertigo yet? like three weeks ago everybody wanted republicans out of the senate. then we got more polls out, democrats going to maintain. now these numbers are stunning. not so much the president's numbers because i think that's more about ukraine right now. i personally think that. but that 53% or whatever that number was? that changes every week. >> his personal numbers are down to all-time lows. if you look at the affordable care act number, it's actually down five points from previous to when they announced we've got 8 million people signed up. everything has changed on this. all the website stuff is behind us. democrats are going to start running on this issue, we've heard now. and they have started to in some places. then you see how the american public generally feels about it and their feelings are worse than they were a month ago. >> the numbers are all over the place here. i think a couple of weeks ago i saw something where it was almost close to breaking evening as far as 49%. again, it's just one poll. it may be an outlier, blah blah blah. but i doubt it. numbers this bad. and by the way, it's gene's newspaper so it's got to be right. right k right, gene? >> certainly a well-done poll. but the numbers are so different, joe. they're all over the map. and so i think, you know, you look at this poll and you take it seriously. you also wait for the next poll and see whether those numbers, you know, are confirmed? >> john heilemann. >> the bottom line is the affordable care act is going to get a little bit more popular as we go forward by the time we get to november it will probably be more popular than it is today given the depths to which its been. but it's not going to be a net winner for democrats. >> if i may -- >> and some democrats will need to run on it for the reasons that you said, running away from it is more politically damaging than running with it. it's not the case it's going to be in november that democrats are going to be -- they're embracing it because they have to, but the numbers are not going to be suddenly swung in a direction that makes it a big trump card for democrats. >> it's going to be a state by state by state case which we've talked about for some time now. in some states it's going to be very bad. maybe mary landrieu can run on the affordable care act and criticize states for not accepting the medicaid money. that may be something that drives some of her constituents out to the polls. it's a state by state basis. but there is no doubt there's a connection between the president and his approval rating and how his party does. so obviously democrats are nervous. >> right. and given that, you should also look at the other parts of the poll where when asked who they trust to solve the country's problems, 40% say democrats. 34% say republicans. and breaking it down further the democrats have a commanding lead over the republicans when it comes to women's issues. helping with the middle class, health care, and immigration. >> yesterday republicans are up. i'm confused. >> i have a question for the table. >> yes? >> yes? >> what do we think of the increasing reliance of newspapers, major newspapers on running poll story after poll story after poll story -- >> kind of a slow time. >> -- rather than explanatory stories about the impact of these policies on specific states and people in this country? >> i think right now there are a lot of people that are trying to figure out, figure out exactly how this is going to impact the election. the fact there's so much turbulence out there, gene robinson, points to the fact that this electorate is just not sure where it wants to go in the future. and, you know, we've got gridlock in washington and sometimes it's almost like americans get the gridlock they deserve. and the gridlock they want. >> well, sometimes i think that may be right. you know, you mentioned ukraine, for example. and its possible impact on the president's numbers. i think that's a legitimate factor probably. i'm not sure. it's kind of the atmospherics. and people are not clicking their heels about the general state of affairs and i think that's reflected in this poll too. so, you know, the solution i think for democrats is, you know, i think it's good for democrats they make it into a state by state by state midterm and let mary landrieu run her way and kay hagen run her way and mark pryor run his way and see if you can, you know, begich is doing it in alaska. rather than having it be a national election which i think republicans want. >> okay. other news now. john kerry is on the defensive about comments about america's close ally israel. >> yeah. >> the daily beast reported that during a closed door meeting with world leaders, kerry reportedly said that without a two-state solution israel risks becoming an apartheid state. yesterday kerry issued a lengthy statement that says he never publicly or privately said that israel is an apartheid state or intends to become one. >> this is technically correct. >> but in the same statement he said, quote, he knows the powers of words to create a misimpression even when unintentional and if i could rewind the tape, i would chosen a different word. >> barbara boxer to ted cruz, not happy with this statement. >> ted cruz calling for john kerry's resignation. yesterday on the floor of the senate. does anyone think, though, that secretary kerry said that intentionally or do we think that was a gaffe? do you think he wanted the word out there to put pressure on? >> it's a word used by jimmy carter and it's caused a lot of angst in foreign policy circles after he used it. there are some people that have used it. no secretary of state though has said that publicly or privately. and obviously it's not only causing a lot of concern in washington, but obviously in israel. >> i think the secretary understands the impact of it. i just wonder did he say that intentionally? did he want to put pressure on people or was it purely a gaffe? >> john heilemann, what do you think? he was obviously very frustrated that the peace process he'd been pushing so hard went off track. i wonder if that was just frustration talking to world leaders. >> my gut says it was more frustration than a calculated gaffe. to me it's the language of op-eds rather than the language of diplomacy. that is the kind of thing an op-ed writer will put out there. it's not actually an unreasonable statement, risks the decline into a situation in wuch a public school -- a minority is governing in a way the majority. there are many people concerned that is a possible thing that could happen. >> i couldn't disagree with you more. and i couldn't disagree with you more for 20 years just about you saying that it's a reasonable statement. i think there are a lot of americans that don't think it is a reasonable statement. that said -- >> that there is a risk of that happening? >> no, there's not ruisk that te government of israel is going to devolve into what johannesburg was like back in the '60s, '70s, and '80s. >> i don't think that's the analogy anybody is drawing. technically speaking what many people are concerned about and some politicians are voiced this in the past that unless you have a two-state solution you will inevitably end up in a situation in which a jewish minority is trying to govern over a non-jewish majority. and that in some sense could lead to an undemocratic -- >> don't let me cut you off. we could debate israel for three hours. i want to go back to your bigger point and that was about john kerry using the language of op-ed writers instead of the language of diplomats. >> that's a dangerous situation for a secretary of state to get into. i'd like to think his explanation, he was saying he's not trying to say this. i shouldn't have said it in the way i said it because it's kind of inflammatory. >> before we go to break, there's been another deadly day in the south. that brings the death toll since sunday to at least 28 people. in tupelo, mississippi, officials are reporting damage to every building in a two-block span with homes wiped away and power lines littered across the street. the tornado was so strong, the local nbc meteorologist was forced to seek safety in the basement during live broadcast. >> -- basement now. >> go! >> let's go! now. >> what? >> dave, now! >> all right. now let's check in with bill kairns for more on this. >> and they were okay, by the way. they survived. the tornado jumped over their building. yesterday afternoon was very frightful for people of alabama, mississippi, and even in portions of georgia for a portion last night. and we're going to do it all over again today. here's the risk area for today. this area of red. unfortunately it's the same people that were just yesterday hunkering down in their basements, their shelters, or closets. we were looking at this area of red. a moderate risk of strong tornadoes once again today. hattiesburg, birmingham included in this. you may go into high risk later today. we have strong storms that just rolled through pensacola, panama city. these storms will go on throughout the morning. we're probable going see another two dozen tornadoes today. we'll also watch a ton of rain on the eastern seaboard. as far as the timing, best chance for tornadoes. how's this for a number? 76 million people at risk of severe storms and tornadoes today. that's a lot of people watching the sky. >> thank you. coming up on "morning joe," former met mookie wilson. >> mookie! >> okay. senator rick santorum will be here. i'm so excited about this. comedian and author lewis black. >> lou! >> not saying boo. lou! >> what a lineup. >> up next "the new york times" reports a massive drop in income. we'll tell you how bad it is. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ [ male announcer ] staples has everything you need to get your client's attention. from brochures to business cards to banners. everything... except your client's attention. thousands of products added every day to staples.com, even bullhorns. how much? 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because he's basically giving her money and she's giving him sex. that's basically the relationship. >> mika, you had a great event last night. >> i did. >> and very important issue to you. >> yes. the national eating disorders association honored me which was unbelievable. it was their biggest event yet. diana williams from channel 7 was the emcee. there's diane smith who co-wrote obsessed with me. and dr. margo main who is an incredible eating disorders specialist, therapist. it was a wonderful evening. really an epidemic across our country. and that woman, that woman read know your value and went in and got a raise the next day. the next day. >> this was obviously -- and we saw that in your new book. this is a critical issue for young men but also young women. women of all ages. >> and america's entire relationship with food and the diet that we have is not, you know, healthy. >> so congratulations. >> thank you. >> did you figure out what my eating disorder was? >> you eat too much and it is not great food. >> let's look at the morning papers. >> you look better lately. >> i'm kind of thing out a little bit. >> i'm just going to be honest. i'm always honest. >> never do that shot again okay okay? >> "the new york times" profit fell 51% last quarter. the paper's projecting a mid-single digit drop in sales next quarter. the sales described the ad market as volatile on a month to month basis. print ad revenues are at its lowest level since 1950 when the newspaper association of america began tracking addai ta. bad news for the times. >> those numbers are really bad. a precipitous drop. the lowest numbers for newspapers as far as ad revenues goes since 1950. >> across the board. you think of the things you want to sell as an individual. a home, a car, they're all online and it's all gone. it's a precipitous drop. >> from our parade of papers, the san antonio news express. a texas teen is under arrest after bringing several weapons including a loaded ak-47 to his high school. the child was mising along with three guns from their home. he's charged with possession of a weapon making it a terrorist threat. he wanted to read a list of demands over the school intercom. no weapons were fired and no one was hurt and thank god the parents were alert to the fact. and called authorities. >> horrible. the chicago tribune. a new study says the amount of violence children and teenagers are exposed to has fallen drastically during the past decade. children reported less exposure to violent behavior between 2003 and 2011. researchers say violence prevention strategies have been on the rise in recent years especially at school. >> and "the new york times," the white house is releasing a series of guidelines to pressure colleges to combat sexual assault on campus. the recommendations urge them to conduct anonymous surveys. it also asks universities to crack down on cases by adopting successful policies from other schools. the guidelines are from a task force created by the president earlier this year. >> the times picayune. the move comes as deen tries to launch a comeback following a racial slur and scandal that damaged her image nearly a year ago. paula deen live will feature a mix of cooking, interactive games, and personal stories from the chef. you know what? they might want to cut out that part especially if it's ad-l ad-libbed. >> but i can't believe you would think -- >> no. >> you would think somebody that's this embattled would not be able to get the guests she's going to get at these tours. unbelievable. the west coast part of the tour -- >> yeah? >> you know who her special guest is going to be? >> who? >> this guy. >> stop it. >> this guy. >> stop it. >> this guy cooks a mean lasagna. >> a lot of butter in that. >> a lot of butter. triple fried lasagna. no disrespect intended, but his chin. >> i understand the cooking of hers is incredibly unhealthy. >> it's delicious. >> it's delicious. >> her use of words and attitudes towards people is incredibly decades back. i don't get her. >> he's going to clean up. let's go to willie now. >> let's talk to editor in chief of politico. let's talk about michael grimm here in staten island. he says federal fraud charges will not stop him from winning re-election this fall. he's now facing 20 criminal counts for allegedly failing to report more than a million bucks in sales and wages at a manhattan restaurant he once managed. what does the future look like for congressman grimm? >> well, it is a little grim, if you'll let me apologize for overworking that pun which has been used many times with michael grim. but the situation is really bad. and politicians when they get in trouble seem to go through these stages of grief where they feel they can work their way out of their problems. sometimes they do. usually they get sick and they die. in michael grimm's stages of grief, he's setting up meetings with house gop leaders where he's looking for a sign of report. are you with me? what he's finding a people are saying i'll book you in for two weeks from now, are you free? the phone is not -- people aren't picking up the phone and aren't rushing to put him on their schedule. similar to anthony weiner. i'm going to stay and fight thing thing. who's with me? looks around and no one's with him. >> if he's cleared, why would he flee from office? >> well, his -- he says he's not going to flee from office. the question is does he have any support? when you get in situations like this, it's hard when your entire caucus is wishing you would disappear. he resigned from the financial services committee. speaker boehner said he supports that move. the question eventually becomes why would you stay? how can you be effective? every once in awhile the voters decide it's in the politician's favor. when they're in this deep, they don't. >> grimm says he's the victim of a political witch hunt. thanks so much, john. >> thanks. coming up he was a hero for the mets during the 1986 world series run. had a little hit you might have heard of up along first base. but now he says he's nothing more than a, quote, hood ornament for the organization. what does he mean by that? we'll talk to the great mookie wilson after this. ♪ we need it right away! we cannot let the fans down. don't worry! the united states postal service will get it there on time with priority mail flat rate shipping. our priority has always been saving the day. because our priority... amazing! ...is you! the amazing spider-man 2 delivered by the united states postal service. ♪ little roller up along first. behind the back. it gets through buckner. and the mets win it! >> do i walk off right now? >> you don't, joe. >> do i walk off right now? >> you don't, joe. >> you're playing that? >> of course i'm playing that. >> why don't you play the lady that was doing this all seven games? >> that was me. >> holy cow. >> you're done. >> kevin blowing two games too. >> i don't blame buckner. i blame calvin. >> a lot of things happened in that game. >> by the way, this is the man who had that hit, the little roller up along first. mookie wilson is the author of the new book "mookie: life, baseball, and the '86 mets." we were just talking about that play. want to talk about your career and your life, but that play right there. you hit that dribbler. you got to figure you're an out at that point. >> pretty much. >> or did you think you could beat buckner to the bag given his physical liabilities? >> not at first. when i hit the ball, a couple things went through my mind i can't repeat on tv. >> you thought you were out. >> i thought i was out, i really did. >> so did i. >> but you teach kids from even in little league, run, run, run. that's something i've always done. for one time it really paid off. that really meant something. so i'm happy about that. >> watching that play in my mind's eye, i was there that night. watching it again, i kind of believe -- buckner was a great player. >> no doubt. >> he was a great hall of fame baseball player. we shouldn't neglect that. given his physical infirmities at that stage of his career, i think you would have beaten him to the bag if you went to the bag cleanly. >> the motion he had to get to the ball and the fact it was back and i'm running straight in a full head of steam. i think the odds were in my favor. i think no one can really debate that. you can debate it, but not to the point. >> that '86 people was fun to watch. the cast of characters. yourself, gary carter, darryl strawberry, ray knight. what was it like in the locker room day-to-day? >> you can't say a lot of that on tv either. >> this is 1980s new york, so people were having fun after the games as well. but what was it like in the locker room? >> so much has been written about that team. some good, some bad, some kpraj rated. outside the locker room we had what we called the scum bunch. and this other group of guys that were completely reserve. and in the middle we had the guys that kept them all together. it was a great mixture of characters in that ball club. and i think that was part of what people loved about -- because the guys wasn't afraid to be themselves. they could never do that in today's era with the iphones and the youtube and all that. >> but you were a team player on with a bunch of guys that were sort of me first, me first guys. >> no, not a bumpbl nch of guys. every team has that guy. you have to be a little selfish in sports because the way you perform is how you get paid. >> we wouldn't understand that. >> it's more than numbers. there were a couple guys that always at some point i want to do this for me. but as a collective whole, guys just loved each other. >> who were the guys in your club who brought the two sides together? who were leaders of the team? >> well, the one guy to me was keith hernandez. keith hernandez, he was very intelligent, by they way. he had a little wild streak in him also. >> little. just a little. >> but he was all business. >> and mick jagger likes women some. >> but he was all buzz. i think i was more reserved. i wasn't as much to go to guys and say you ought to do this, you ought to do this. i wasn't that type of guy. i was the one would answer when asked. keith would go to you. he was to us the captain of that club before he was even named captain of the club. because that's what he did. he brought the two sides together. everyone respected keith. he was very, very intelligent. >> mookie, since this book came out you made comments about your role in the history of the mets and the current state of the mets where you called yourself nothing more than a hood ornament for the new york mets. what did you mean by that? >> i think that what i wanted people to understand is when you take one, you know, part of a book and you have to take it in context with the whole book. that's the first thing. and when i used the term hood ornament, it was meant that i didn't think that i had the position in the club to really help the club come back to where it was before in terms of baseball. and that i was just a person that people would see me and they would think mets. it's just like when you're driving a car, you know the car by the symbol on the hood. you know, and when people see me walking the street, it's met. not realizing that although i was there, i wasn't at the capacity that i felt i should be. >> so would you like to see something more from the mets organization? could they reach out to you more, is that what you mean by that? >> well, i guess that's pretty much what i said. but at the time when this was written, all of us go through things you reassess in your lives of what you've done and could have done or hoped you could have done anyway. and i just don't think i have fulfilled the potential that i have in terms of baseball. and as far as the mets reaching out, you know, there is a window that all of us have to play baseball, to coach baseball, or to manage or whatever. when that window is passed, then you move on. you know? and i think the window for me is closing very, very rapidly. whether someone reaches out and says, hey, we want you to do more, i don't know. that wasn't the purpose of the book. that was the purpose of explaining how mookie wilson felt and how i got to where i am now. >> i think there are a lot of people that say you did a pretty darn good job of fulfilling your potential. you were fun to watch as a i plaer and that people will go down in history books as one of the best of all time. the book is "mookie: life, baseball, and the '86 mets." thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> coming up next, mika's must read pages. more to come on "morning joe." ♪ so there i was again, explaining my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis to another new stylist. it was a total embarrassment. and not the kind of attention i wanted. so i had a serious talk with my dermatologist about my treatment options. this time, she prescribed humira-adalimumab. humira helps to clear the surface of my skin by actually working inside my body. in clinical trials, most adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis saw 75% skin clearance. and the majority of people were clear or almost clear in just 4 months. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events, such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer have happened. blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure have occurred. before starting humira, your doctor should test you for tb. ask your doctor if you live in or have been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. tell your doctor if you have had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have symptoms such as fever, fatigue, cough, or sores. you should not start humira if you have any kind of infection. make the most of every moment. ask your dermatologist about humira, today. clearer skin is possible. but at xerox we've embraced a new role. working behind the scenes to provide companies with services... like helping hr departments manage benefits and pensions for over 11 million employees. reducing document costs by up to 30%... and processing $421 billion dollars in accounts payables each year. helping thousands of companies simplify how work gets done. how's that for an encore? 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>> the prison term, he ripped his mother off. crazy story. >> i believe that car wash bit, willie. what happened? >> magazine too. >> luxury. >> who did the most coke on the '86 mets? anybody? >> baseball analytics. there are metrics for that. >> which one? it was the final scene in "scarface". >> bill james. it's a tie. >> between hernandez and doc and darryl, right? >> let's get to the news. later today the commissioner of the nba will weigh in on the alleged racist rapt by l.a. clippers owner donnell sterling. several sponsors are already making their judgment suspending or reviewing thundershow ining the clippers. the recordings in question allegedly capture sterling scolding his mistress at the time for bringing african-american men to clippers games and posting photos of them on her instagram account. what a lovely couple. >> look at them. who'd believe they were having trouble? >> really. >> jon, a lot of people since the moment this story broke are saying strip his ownership. lebron james says there's no place for him in the league. all the leading lights of the nba current and past said get rid of the guy. what are the options this morning for adam silver the league commissioner but also the other owners. what can they do to force this guy out. can they say you can't own the team? >> on a three-days notice, they're not going to strip the guy of the property. we all hear it's repugnant, but what is justice? the guy's got a big business. you can tell him he can't go to games which is probably what's going to happen today. but it's a big leap to force a sale. that's not going to happen today. i do think there's a question of we're all offended and what can we do this guy? >> we heard about the lawsuit from elgin baylor. we've heard of a lot of other stories now. david stern had to hear stories through the years. this guy has been an owner since the early 1980s. he has a clear record of if not out and out racism, racial intolerance, why wasn't something done before now? >> you're right. this is the longest tenured nba owner. 30-plus years here this guy has been a problem for years and years. 2000 sports illustrated did a piece. saturday i got a text from an executive. you hear these remarks and you think -- the response was donald went off. people knew about this guy and the fact this ironically exploded weeks after stern gave up his commissionership is an irony here. >> gene robinson has a question. gene? >> jon, isn't really the question here going forward image? the image of the league which under david stern was so sort of carefully built around these players who are stars, who come into your living rooms not just in games but in commercials and everything. doesn't this really create a problem for the league and doesn't the league have to do something to get rid of this sort of blot on this carefully constructed image they've built? >> absolutely. the other part of the league's image was it was a progressive sports league. this had minority management before anyone else. jason collins was playing this week. to have an owner make these remarks is really rough on the nba. again, the question is just what are we going to do here? the guy has been an owner. he has his sports property. did you make him sell? which legally is going to be tough. do you ease him out? i think in the nba from a pr perspective, this is disaster. it's also the first week of the playoffs. and the sad irony, the clippers for the first time finally a good team. they've taken over l.a. from the lakers. this is a mess for the nba. >> doesn't part of this issue, we've been talking about now nonstop now for four or five days, revolve around you're a member of a club as an owner. and the other members of a club know what you do outside of the confines of the nba. that's what he does in his private time. that's the business he's in. that's how he made his money. as long as it doesn't affect the nba, they're not going to rattle the teacups here. >> we've heard from players, entertainers, athletes in other sports. everybody's outraged. i haven't heard this outcry from the other owners. i think the other thing, too, if the league can strip you of ownership on a morals clause, is that a slupry slope for the other owners? i think it would be nice if the other guys distance themselves a bit more. >> what about external pressure, jon? the dominos have started to fall. we've seen sponsors suspend sponsorships. what if free agency comes up, chris paul, griffin, all these guys say i'm not playing here. no free agent will come here. nobody wants to be drafted by the clippers. people stop coming to the games. isn't there a point at which donald sterling has to say i'm not making money anymore. this isn't worth it. >> tv is propping up the tower here. and these sponsors leaving is not good for bliz, but as long as there's a tv contract, that's going to drive it. the other thing significant is l.a. it's a sexy market and staples. if this were happening in milwaukee or indianapolis and players said i'm not playing for that guy. but the fact it's l.a. complicates it. >> jon wertheim, thank you so much. turning over to other news. the mayor of ukraine's second largest city is fighting for his life now after being shot in the back. his supporters say he was targeted because he backs the new government in kiev. there was also violent clashes during the ukrainian unity rally. pro-russian militants carrying baseball bats went after the demonstrators. several injuries reported. posted a new series of sanctions yesterday against russia as president obama defended not using force to resolve the crisis. the sanctions target seven russians and 17 companies. the eu also followed suit sanctioning 15 russian officials including top members of russia's military. but there are new reports which iran has been sanctioned is in talks with russia for an energy deal up to $10 billion. speaking in the philippines, president obama giving forceful response to criticism that his foreign policy is seen as weak on the world stage. >> why is it everybody's so eager to use military force after we've just gone through a decade of war at enormous costs to our troops and to our budget? for some reason many who were proponents of what i consider to be a disastrous decision to go into iraq haven't really learned the lesson of the last decade. and they keep on playing the same note over and other again. why? i don't know. this job at commander in chief is to look at what is it that's going to advance our security interests over the long-term? to keep our military in reserve for where we absolutely need it. and that may not always be sexy. that may not always attract a lot of attention, and it doesn't make for good argument on sunday morning shows. but, it avoids errors. >> you know, mika, i've been talking about a lot of op-eds coming out against the president. "the washington post" writes this. sanctions fell short, well short of the step that senior officials threatened when the offensive in ukraine began three weeks ago. they conclude by saying we choose not to use weapons at the disposal. "the wall street journal" writes this. imposed more sanctions on monday and both the ruble and moscow stocks rallied up 1.5%. the markets didn't take this response seriously and neither will vladimir putin. they make the west look weak and disunited. that's what putin is counting on. >> the president of the united states basically stood up yesterday saying we have less than 1% of the population fighting these wars for 13 years. whenever something occurs in the world, who is with us? nobody's ever with us. >> right. >> the europeans -- what's happening in ukraine is more of a security interest to the union europeans than the united states. but we're carrying the ball. >> nobody's talking about putting troops on the ground. this is talking about leaning in hard economically. >> i think that's right. and i think, you know, there's no doubt that the countries were weary. at the same time we saw the polls earlier today, i'm surprised the support for the president's policy is as low as it is. we saw polls earlier that had it around 35%, the mid-30s. which for a country that clearly does not want to see boots on the ground also it seems like there's a broad appreciation of the fact that people feel as though we could be or should be doing more. >> gene, don't you think in many ways putin is sort of testing the president, testing this white house, testing the united states how far can i push this. he's seen limited sanctions once. but going today another round on individuals not on the banking system or anything like that. i guess the question is how far does putin push it given the response he's seen from the united states each time? >> willie, i think what putin's doing is not so much about testing the west. i think he's pursue whag what he sees as russian national interest and his national interest. it involves tremendous possession over ukraine. and i think he's moving forward that goal. now, you know, the question is how do you stop him and how do you dissuade him? and i think people are underestimating the extent to which the europeans are saying no, we have to take this sort of calibrated step-by-step approach. they really don't want to go to the tougher sanctions. that would be the sort of logical, next step. and nobody wants to go to any sort of military step. that's just not going to happen. so i think we're underestimating the complexity of the dealings between president obama and the european allies. >> let's get some other news here -- >> by the way take that up with the editorial board -- wait. you're on the editorial board. would you let me read the entire "washington post" editorial you put out? >> well, they don't always ask me before writing editorials. >> what? you won a pulitzer prize, for god's sake. >> some of them did too. what can i say? >> all right. let's been another deadly day of weather in the south. at least 11 people are dead after a second round of tornadoes tore through mississippi, alabama, and tennessee. that brings the death toll since sunday to at least 28 people. in tupelo, mississippi, officials reporting damage to every building in a two-block span with homes wiped away and power lines littered across the street. the tornado was so strong the local nbc meteorologist was forced to seek safety during a live broadcast. >> -- basement now. >> go! >> let's go! now. >> what? >> dave, now! >> now let's check in with bill kairns for more on this, because it's not over yet. >> i got to show you this. you ever been to mississippi state to the university there? >> the guy was all right. >> yes. they were okay. there was one fatality in tupelo, but no one at the station. they all survived. >> i've been to starkville, yeah. >> this door was found by a professor at mississippi state university in starkville. the tornado that tore apart the building that the door belonged to was 20 miles away. just trying to picture that door was sucked up into this thunderstorm by this tornado and tossed 20 miles. that's how crazy these storms were yesterday. we're going to do it again today. unfortunately the same spots we just did it. we're talking areas from mississippi right along the alabama border. of course three years ago we know what happened in tuscaloosa and birmingham. these same regions are going to be really just under the threat of strong tornadoes once again this afternoon as we go through the late afternoon up to about 10:00 p.m. one of the areas hit hard, we watched southern mississippi yesterday with a horrible storm. and i want to bring in nbc meteorologist dylan dreyer who's in pearl river. that was a frightful storm. you're seeing the damage first hand. >> reporter: that's right, bill. it's amazing to see the damage that these tornadoes caused. you know, just 24 hours ago, this was a neighborhood. these were people's homes. now you can see they are just pushed off the foundation and totally just knocked over. this is highland's mobile home park in pearl, mississippi. and the warnings went out around 5:30 local time yesterday. the national weather service for jackson, mississippi, is only about five miles from here which is kind of ironic that they were on alert themselves for the warnings they were issuing. now, this storm was a storm that affected a lot of the jackson metro area including here in pearl, mississippi. also in brandon and richland, mississippi, where one woman was killed because her car was tossed in these storms. you can see the damage to these storms here. the national weather service will come out and assess the damage. some of the homes were taken off their foundations and reduced to a pile of rubble with their personal things now just a pile of trash at this point. the next neighborhood over, the buildings and homes are more built out of brick structures. so they are standing and we're not really seeing all that much damage with those homes. but we are certainly going to have to still assess the damage. the national weather service comes out and surveys all of this to determine how strong the tornado was. strong or not, relative to standards of other tornadoes, this is certainly one of the situations where people will come back and just say what happened? where's my home? it's so heart breaking to see. >> dylan, thank you so much. up next, former u.s. ambassador of russia and then espn sage steele and comedian lewis black. you're watching "morning joe." ♪ ♪ ♪ make every day, her day with a full menu of appetizers and entrées crafted with care and designed to delight. fancy feast. love served daily. i don't always have timeh to eat like i should.. that's why i like glucerna shakes. they have slowly digestible carbs to help minimize blood sugar spikes. 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why aren't there sanctions on i think jane talked about one of the oil companies would have a significant impact on russia's economy. what are the negative side effects of doing something like that? because if it were this easy, the president would have already done it. >> correct. their strategy is to deter russia. if they go in, they're going to sanction. but if they do that, then putin's going to dig in. believe me, i dealt with the guy. that's going to make him dig in. >> did you ever arm wrestle him bare chested? take your shirts off and arm wrestle? >> no. the congressman, they have a good relationship. he didn't really like me, frankly. >> so he looked deep into your eyes and he did like the soul that he saw? unlike george w. bush. >> he thought i was too interested in freedom and liberty, if you want to know the truth. but back to the president. i mean, this talk of toughness if i could add a little historical perspective. do you know how many russian officials the bush administration sanctioned? zero. do you know how many ronald reagan sanctioned? zero. general eisenhower on rolling back communism, zero. so, you know. let's have a little perspective here. >> which brings up a good point. most people would say eisenhower, reagan did well against the russians. i would say the same of george w. bush. which tells us we have to wait until the end of the story before we judge the president. history will judge him based on end results, not what's happening in the middle. >> correct. movement at 10 million people, threat and all kinds of things at the crackdown. they cracked down. december 1981. it took eight years until that was unravelled. what will happen, you know, i think we should judge this by what happens eight years from now. not what happens eight days from now. >> people also don't remember this because it's convenient to forget it. but neocons in the early 1980s, eviscerated ronald reagan. and they did so because he was more interested in american farmers than, you know, banning. and they continued attacking ronald reagan through the mid to late '80s, the neocons did. >> interesting also each president deals with a different counterpart. in this case putin than who reagan was dealing with. knowing putin, what do you think is his end game? i mean, if he wants eastern ukraine, he can roll the tanks in and it's over. what does he want out of this crisis? >> so i think it's really important to understand that, you know, he hasn't been sitting around for 15 years dreaming about bringing crimea into russia. he had a different strategy. it was to dominate the region by economic institutions. he wanted all of ukraine in. the government fell in ukraine and he got pissed. he went into crimea. and so he's in a new strategic environment. >> how did we lie to him? how did we double cross him? >> he believes there was a deal cut between the president yanukovych and the opposition. and there was. he believes we undercut that and yanukovych fled to russia. and then it was all bets are off. i don't trust these people anymore. >> were we too clever regarding the ukrainian elections? >> no. i think that deal was, you know, we had to hold our noses. i was still in the government at the time. yanukovych ckilled innocent demonstrators. and then yanukovych fled. the reason we have this crisis, yanukovych fled and it's still mysterious to me why he did that. >> can you understand even though you have no use for vladimir putin, why some people sympathetic to the russian cause would feel like the west was putting putin and the russians in a corner strategically in ukraine? >> i can understand it, because it's my job to explain the russians to my students and before the president. >> and the people watching "morning joe." explain the russians to the people watching "morning joe." >> well, for putin, a guy who said one of the greatest tragic situations was the collapse of the soviet union. he never liked it. he always thought the west took advantage of russia. ironically the last several years, i wouldn't cast it that way. i mean, nato's not expanding. but that's his view. and ukraine to him is part of what he considers to be his sphere of influence. and when the government there fell, his guy, right? not just the government but his guy fell, he felt like that's the cia, that's the west pushing on russia. >> going forward -- >> he's wrong, but that's what he thinks. >> my god. commi why do you come on this show and perpetrate this? i'm joking. >> going forward the president has a theoretical range of options across the economic realm. talk about the constraints that he's under specifically something we talked about today about the europeans. which way is he limited and how can he work those limits to bring the maximum pressure on poout someone. >> the debate is between those who want to deter putin and punish him versus those that worry about the global economy. and for instance, if you go forward with sectoral sanctions on the banking sector and oil and gas, that's going to reverberate. that's going to hurt first and foremost the europeans and maybe our economy. so he's balancing those two objectives. on the one hand, he wants to push back on putin. on the other, he doesn't want to precipitate a global recession. >> do you think it's right he would like to go further than what the europeans want to do? >> that's my sense, yeah. and interestingly, i don't have any inside information, but interestingly yesterday the head was on the list. but the head of gasprom was not on the list. >> while we have you here, i want to get your take on another story. during a closed door meeting with world leaders friday, john kerry said without a two-state solution israel risks become. an apartheid state. kerry issued a long statement saying he has never, quote, publicly or privately that israel is an apartheid state or intends to become one. but he said he knows the power of words to create a misimpression even when unintentional. what is your take on that? that is such a charged term when it comes to israel in particular. do you make of the situation? >> just as you said, charged term. he made a mistake. he admitted he made a mistake. i've made mistakes publicly. usual will i in my bad russian when i was am bars door. said a few things i would like to roll back the tape on. does it mean that he somehow is not committed to the diplomacy that he's working hard on? of course not. >> all right. >> there's some pretty smart foreign policy people who said in many ways secretary kerry has worked as hard as some people inside israel for peace on this. so the idea he's not for peace in israel based on that -- >> exactly. doesn't mean he's achieved results. let's be clear about that. but nobody has leaned in harder to try to make progress on this issue. >> former ambassador michael mcfaul, thank you so much. coming up next, if it turns out the clippers owner donald sterling is the voice on the tapes, how should the nba respond? we tried to bring someone in to offer an opinion. unfortunately he wasn't available, but mike lupica is. also sage steele joins us. when sales rep steve hatfield books at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can prep for his presentation. and when steve is perfectly prepped, ya know what he brings? and that's how you'll increase market share. any questions? can i get an "a", steve? 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[ female announcer ] the x1 entertainment operating system. only from xfinity. tv and internet together like never before. there's no room for racism and discrimination. that's what i would tell you. and unfortunately, there's a man in a powerful position and a man who should be embracing minorities not discriminating against them. and it has no room in our society for it or in sports. >> all right. that was nba legend magic johnson yesterday on the scandal surrounding l.a. clippers owner donald sterling. joining us now on set, columnist for the new york daily news mike lupica and the host of nba countdown on abc and espn sage steele. good to have you both on the show this morning. >> mike, i'll start with you since you're here with us. your first reaction when you saw this, you've covered sport ifs ar long time. you've known donald sterling, known about him. he's been around for 30 years. people in the sports world know he's not a great guy. so what was your reaction when you heard this? >> for years he's been like this crazy uncle. crazy uncle don in the nba. my pal paul westphal said he's the best kept secret in the nba. and when you hear these things, alleged this, alleged that. i don't know how the tape was doctored. maybe we'll find out. he's through. whatever adam silver announces today whether it's suspension, fine, or both of those things, this will be the beginning of the machinery to get him out of the national basketball league. one owner said we no longer want to be partners with him. and the interest of the players association and the interests of the owners for one of those rare times is completely aligned. whatever they say today if the end game isn't getting him out of he sport, it's not going to be enough for kevin johnson. >> how has this worst kept secret began able to remain as a basketball owner? when david stern had to hear story after story after story. elgin baylor sues this guy for discrimination. was it a hear now evil, see no evil, speak no evil on stern's part? >> you know, to an extent. but i think it's really interesting. i saw what one owner said that, yeah, they'd known about this for a long time. but then, you know, they come to the league meetings and he's really entertaining and he's really funny. and by the way, you could probably pencil in a "w" every time you play the clippers for the last 30 years aside from the last two or three. because they know he's going to -- i mean, he is the -- his franchise is the worst of all franchises in north american professional sports. since he took over the team, since he bought it in 1981, the worst winning percentage of all of them. keep him there and we'll ignore the stuff on the side. this is a big day for adam silver today. he's known certainly david stern knew. and the owners, his peers have known and allowed it up until this point. so all of a sudden let's come together and kick him out now. mike, you know better than me. you've been doing it longer. but they've known gr a long time. thank goodness for the crazy girlfriend who recorded it allegedly and got the tapes out there. because finally now i believe the right thing will happen. >> off what sage just said, mike, the precedence for this doesn't exist really. there is sort of a precedence. there's no precedent tr taking a team from someone. >> mark cuban said it's a slippery slope. no one knows how sweeping sterling is. bud has never actually used them. even against mcchord when the sees the team for financial reasons. the closest you can come is george steinberg was temporarily suspended from baseball for life for paying a dead beat $40,000 to dig up dirt on one of his players. they're going to make it as unpleasant as possible except this is a stubborn old man. and he -- as a friend of mine said yesterday, he will sue them at the drop of a hat because it's what he does. it's what he's done apart from basketball. >> internally, too, there's the issue of not to be understated you go to the clippers, you win a game. >> not anymore though. that's why this year's different. >> now they want to kick him out. >> there's a weird sort of karma at work here. i'm not saying they would have. favored to win the championship, but after being this joke clown team for 25 or 26 years, now in a year when they have a chance to do something, this is on these players and coach and they didn't do anything here. >> >> let's ask some uncomfortable questions around this. this reminds me of penn state where nobody said anything until it went too far. but you've got someone out of control but he's powerful bhop are these people, sage, giving him naacp awards and why? and who are these people who protecting the crazy uncle and why? and who are these people dating this guy and why? same answer, by the way, for every question. >> yeah. there's so many different layers to this. >> money. >> congratulations for saying we're not going to give an award. what happened in 2009 when you did give him an award when there had been decades at that point as well of discrimination. he's gone on record. i think it's fascinating that now they're going to say we're not going to associate with him when a couple years ago he was giving you $50,000, it was okay. there's a lot of enabling from several different groups. but we can't enable. >> yeah. >> sage, i'd be interested to hear since you were there with imagine you can when he made that first statement sitting next to you on the set the other day. he said he was hurt. he looked like he was hurt by this. this all stemmed from a photograph taken with this young woman and magic at a dodger game that outraged donald sterling. if you could take us behind the scenes a bit, what was that day like? >> yeah. i have never seen magic truly sad. that's the word he used and that's the word i believe he truly meant. he was almost nervous talking about it because it hurt him. he called him a friend. he's one of the first people he met when he came to los angeles 30-plus years ago. so it was devastating for him. and then anger, true anger about what he has done in magic's words, he has taken the spotlight away from what in many of our minds is the best first round of playoff in nba history. taking all the attention away from these players who have gone out there and busted their butts. i've never seen magic like that. he's hurt and angry. but i think it's a good thing. you don't want magic johnson angry and he's going to make sure that this is not ai lowed to continue and donald sterling will not be allowed to continue. it's going to take some time. we don't know all the bylaws of these. but the guy's going to go down not as quickly as we would like today or should have done years ago if people hadn't enabled. >> mike, one of the stories that unfortunately is not being talked about right now out of the nba playoffs, the atlanta hawks pushing the pacers. one game away from elimination, they could have closed out the series. they lost the third or fourth game. they should have won. what's happening with the hawks pushing the pacers to the wall? >> there's something going on in my locker room of the pacer. i turned on the tv to catch the second half. the pacers are losing by 30 points at home and people were walking out of the place like somebody pulled the fire alarm. >> sage, your pacers, what's going on? >> it's killing me. i think in game one -- mike, was it game one when roy hibbert took a three-point shot? my 11-year-old daughter said, mommy, why is roy hibbert shooting a three from the corner? this team has completely lost their identity. it's so sad. it's honestly one of the biggest, biggest meltdowns we've seen in professional sports. this is massive. and the atlanta hawks, more power to them. go, guys. but the pacers, my pacers are pathetic. >> and your 11-year-old daughter may take your job in four or five years. >> yes. >> you get asked a lot of tough questions as a parent. but why is roy hibbert shooting? that's the toughest i've heard. >> i love that. >> mike lupica, sage steele, thank you so much. >> thank you. still ahead, republicans have their eyes on the senate takeover and they're making a push in some unlikely states. we'll have a look at some of the surprising races. you're watching "morning joe." ♪ so i tri ed depend so i last weekend. tri and it made the difference between hearing about my daughter's gym meet, and being there. yeah! nailed it! unlike the bargain brand, depend gives you new fit-flex®, our best protection. it's a smooth and comfortable fit with more lycra strands. hi sweetie! get your free sample at depend.com. add brand new belongings from nationwide insurance... ...and we'll replace destroyed or stolen items with brand-new versions. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ peoi go to angie's listt for all kinds of reasons. to gauge whether or not the projects will be done in a timely fashion and within budget. angie's list members can tell you which provider is the best in town. you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare. now that we're expecting, i like the fact i can go onto angie's list and look for pediatricians. the service providers that i've found on angie's list actually have blown me away. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust. why we're going nowhere. and that's because we the people have a.d.d. the lack of a laugh of recognition from many of you scares the [ muted ] out of me. that means you don't think you have a.d.d. which means you have it worse than anybody in the room. you didn't get through the [ muted ] sentence with me. you stopped and went away. oh, yes. i know tomorrow's sunday i'm going to have brunch. >> up next, the man who made ranting an art form. author and comedian lewis black standing by. look how cute he is. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ vo: once upon a time there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where villages floated on water and castles were houses dragons lurked giants stood tall and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real avo: whatever you can imagine, all in one place expedia, find yours to get your client's attention. from brochures to business cards to banners. everything... except your client's attention. thousands of products added every day to staples.com, even bullhorns. how much? 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>> you're not a morning person either. >> no. this is -- and i was thinking about this while i was trundling over here, but we can really -- we don't have to live like this. >> why? >> because we should shift the clock. >> oh, i like that. >> this show should be starting about 10:00. >> can you believe these hours? >> we wake up at 4:00 every day. >> well, it doesn't help. >> 4:00? >> it doesn't help america, it helps no one. >> i in particular am bad for america so tell us about old yeller. am i going to cry at the end of this special? >> no, they don't shoot me. >> do they barely miss? >> they barely miss. my mother is there so there's a moment of side kick shooting. >> i always heard this story, i would just play 30 minutes of "daily show" and your mother would call you and go is jon in trouble again? you'd go no, he's just doing it to get ratings. >> so we did it as pay purview and now it's coming out on epix this friday. if you live in new york, it's free. epix -- if you have time warner, epix is on the air. >> we've got a period of incredible turnover in late night television comedy. just talk about, you know all these guys, you've been on a lot of these shows. what do you think about this moment when all this new talent, all this new change? >> i'm glad we're discussing yet again many of the reasons i don't get a late night show. >> why don't you get late night shows? what's happening? >> i have no interest in interviewing people. >> really? >> i like people but i really don't care what they have to say. >> there's nothing wrong with that. >> it's just they talk. i think i could do it if you didn't have to -- like i'm doing, in part i have to go out and talk about what i'm doing, but i'm not on 95 shows. you're not going to see me in the next hour talking about the same thing again and what was it like working with brad pitt. >> what was it like working with brad pitt? >> who cares? i agree with you, who cares? >> really, after the first 20 -- but apparently they have got these counters in rooms somewhere who go, well, if we get him here, we do that. >> oh, i bet you don't do well in focus groups. i bet you do terribly. >> no, there's certain pockets of the country where there's a certain amount of rage. >> what pocket is that? >> i will take you -- get on the bus. get on my tour bus. >> i'm going. >> they're there, man. everybody loves lewis black. >> you're doing a good thing. you're having a huge fund-raiser for cystic fibrosis research. >> that's actually really important. >> what drew you to cystic fibrosis. >> i just ended up doing -- sadly a selfish thing because they needed someone to do stand-up at a golf tournament that they were having. this is 18 years ago. and i went down and i did it and then i became involved. i didn't know anybody -- i didn't even know what the disease was about and back then there wasn't google, so who knew. i've become more and more involved. i return every year and kind of host that tournament. and now i finally said -- they wanted to do something and i said why don't we do something in new york and i'll try to get all of the people that i can to get on a stage. so i've got -- on monday night at rose hall, 7:00 in new york city, all the money is going, except for the -- we've got to pay unions and stuff, but all the money coming in is going to the cystic fibrosis foundation. i've got robin williams on tape, i've got will ferrell doing something money on tape, meryl streep on tape so i've got a bunch of video too. >> you do like people. >> yes, i do. >> he doesn't admit it, though. >> look, i couldn't be this angry if i didn't like people. >> that's true. >> so let's finish on politics. >> oh, good. >> i like this. so george wallace once said there's not a dime's worth of difference between republicans and democrats. you disagree because you say republicans say really stupid things and you say democrats are dumb. and you call yourself a socialist. >> yeah. >> but you say you're one of only seven socialists in america. >> maybe nine. >> where do you go if you want to find the leader of the socialists? >> you go to a graveyard. you can see them there. norman thomas is there. there's a name, why don't you look that up. >> what? >> norman thomas. >> there you go. >> i'm serious, they never -- that was like a name mentioned around my house. you knew who he was and you actually read about him in school. that's gone. there's bernie sanders, there's me. and to say that obama is a socialist is -- well, look, we have weinie roasts every two weeks and he never shows up. >> socialist weinie roast. that's a party i want to go to. >> do you watch television? >> yeah. >> what do you think of this show? i'm scared to ask. >> i never watch it. >> he doesn't wake up. >> i've got things to do. >> at that point i'm hitting my rem. >> i tell you what i'm going to be doing, i'm going to be watching lewis black -- >> ole yeller on epix. >> what's the website. >> lewisblackcss.org. >> you can also buy tickets to lewis blacks presents big stars, black cure, lewisblackcff.com. lewis black, thank you. >> we love having you. >> we'll be right back. ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. 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>> mike barnicle and in washington eugene -- just be quiet. >> let's talk about the nba right now. >> later today the commissioner of the nba will weigh in on the alleged racist rant by l.a. clippers owner donald sterling four days after tmz first released the tapes. several sponsors already making their judgments, suspending or reviewing their deals with the clippers. some of the top brands include virgin america, kia, samsung. the recordings capture sterling scolding his mistress at the time for bringing african-american men to clippers games and posting photos of them on her instagram account. now several team owners are addressing how the league should punish sterling if it proves to be his voice. >> look at those two. who would know they were having problems. they look like they go together perfectly. that is a love story right there. look at them. >> she thinks he's so sglaut what are they, five years apart? maybe five years apart. >> she's like, wow, i have a winner here. >> she's there for love. >> and he's there for love too. >> we call that a november-january right now. >> that's a december 31st-january 2nd. >> really, some old men ought to be ashamed of themselves, seriously, and some very young women should be ashamed of themselves too. >> that's what i was going to say. mark cuban of the dallas mavericks cautioned against the league overreaching. >> really? really, mark cuban? >> okay, mark. saying there's no place for racism in the nba. okay, thank you for getting that out on the record. any business i'm associated with, and i don't want to be associated with people that have that position but at the same time that's a decision i make. i think you've got to be very, very careful when you start making blanket statements about what people say and think, as opposed to what they do. it's a very, very slippery slope. >> that's why the naacp was going to honor him until finally they couldn't because he said something so incredibly inappropriate. it's disgusting, i'm sorry. >> gene robinson, kareem abdul-jabbar has a fantastic op-ed in "time" magazine we're going to get to in a second. not as fantastic as yours. but elgin baylor sued this guy for racial discrimination. we heard one complaint after another after another. come on. are we to believe that david stern didn't know that crap was going on? >> david stern was a really observant guy. he knew everything that was going on in the league and he knew donald sterling for 30 years or something like that, so of course he knew -- he knew about the guy. you know, it's -- i mean it's interesting because if you think about it, it actually does make a difference. certainly to the players and to the coach, doc rivers, that this stuff all becomes public. they must have known that this was not a guy who was probably going to invite them over for dinner. and that he had -- that there was some ugliness inside there. but, you know, as long as it wasn't expressed every day and it wasn't expressed in this very public way, you know, i think they could feel comfortable. those are the people who are really, i think, caught in this situation, the people who work and play for him. and so now publicly they have to associate themselves, you know, with this awful racist who thinks they are, you know, inferior, not part of his culture and not worthy of coming to his games unless he's paying them. >> willie, the players are in a horrible position. last night i thought a great moment when the heat joined in silent protest, right? >> they did the same thing that the clippers did the night before. they took off their shooting jerseys, revealed their warmups were inside out. not a statement about their owner or their team but just showing solidarity with what the clippers are going through. now these guys and doc rivers, their head coach, in the middle of a playoff series. they have had a great season, worked very hard, are now having to put up with this and answer questions about this around the clock. hopefully some pressure can come off them. there's so much to say about this but when you start at the very beginning it shows how deep if this tape in fact is donald sterling, how deep his racism is. that he was upset that this woman brought magic johnson to a clippers game, arguably the most beloved athlete in the united states of america. >> that's like somebody in a restaurant in london in like 1985 saying how dare you bring a woman like that to my restaurant, pointing at margaret thatcher. are you kidding me? >> exactly. it's terrible on his face but he was upset that magic johnson was at his game. he's lucky magic johnson was at his game. there's so much here. now, there is -- >> which raises a question. why was magic johnson at a clippers game? >> i think the picture actually was at -- they had dodgers gear on. >> actually i'm joking. >> anyway, but if you read cuban's full quote, he comes down very hard on sterling. we just read part of it there. but there is something to the idea that being reprehensible and being a racist and everything else is not grounds for having ownership taken away, but the free market can take care of it. sponsors run away, players say we're not going to play on this team, free agents won't sign, fans stop coming to the game and the other 29 owners start coming down on him. as we get closer to the critical midterm elections, new signs that president obama may be politically toxic for democratic candidates according to a new news poll. the president's approval rating is now at 41% among registered voters. the lowest in this poll since the start of his presidency. he's also struggling on the major issues of the day. only 42% approve of his handling of the economy, 37% approve of his implementation of the affordable care act and 34% approve his handling of the situation in ukraine. and when voters were asked specifically whether they would rather have democrats in control of congress to support president obama's policies or republican majority to keep him in check, 53% sided with republican majority. >> wow. >> only 39% want democrats in charge. >> willie, do you have vertigo yet? like three weeks ago three weeks ago people want republicans in the senate, a week and a half ago good numbers on obamacare and then we get polls out, oh, democrats are going to maintain -- now these numbers are stunning. not so much the president's numbers because i think it's more about ukraine right now, i personally think that. but that 53-39, whatever that number, it changes every week. >> his personal numbers are back to all-time lows but if you look inside that affordable care number it's actually down five points previous to when they announced we've got eight million people signed up. everything has changed. all the website stuff is behind us. democrats will start running on this issue and they have started to in some places. then you actually see how the american public generally feels about it and their feelings are worse than they were a month ago when the tide had supposedly turned for the affordable care act. >> john, numbers are all over the place here. a couple of weeks ago i saw where it was almost close to breaking even, like 48%, 49%. again, it's just one poll. it may be an outlier, blah, blah, blah, but i doubt it. numbers this bad. and by the way, it's gene's newspaper so it's got to be right. right, john? >> whatever "the washington post" says has to be true. >> the numbers are so different, joe. they're all over the map and so i think, you know, you look at this poll and you take it seriously and you also wait for the next poll and see whether these numbers, you know, are confirmed or if they're back up or whatever. >> john. >> the bottom line is that the affordable care act will get a little more popular. by the time we get to november it will probably be more popular than it is today but it's not going to be a net winner for democrats in november. some democrats will need to run on it for the reasons that you said, because running away from it is more politically damaging than running with it. but it's not the case that's going to be in november that democrats are going to be -- they're going to embrace it because they have to but the numbers are not going to swing in a direction that are going to make the affordable care act a big trump card for democrats in november. >> so it's going to be a state by state by state case, which we've talked about for some time now. in some states it's going to be very bad. in louisiana, maybe mary landrieu can actually run on the affordable care act and criticize states for not accepting the medicaid money. that may be something that drives some of her constituents out to the polls. so it's a state-by-state basis but there is no doubt there's a connection between the president and his approval rating and how his party does in off-year elections so obviously democrats are a little more nervous. >> right. given that, you should also look at the other parts of the poll where when asked who they trust to solve the country's problems, 40% say democrats, 34% say republicans. breaking it down further, the democrats have a commanding lead over the republicans when it comes to women's issues. helping with the middle class, health care and immigration. >> and yet republicans of up by 12, 13 points. i don't get it, i'm confused. >> i have a question for the table. >> yes. >> what do we think of the increasing reliance of newspapers, major newspapers on running poll story after poll story after poll story. >> kind of a slow time. >> rather than explanatory stories about the impact of these policies on specific states and people in this country. >> okay, other news now, john kerry is on the defensive about comments about america's close ally, israel. >> yeah. >> "the daily beast" first reported during a closed door meeting with world leaders on friday, the secretary of state admonished israel's government. he reportedly said that without a two-state solution, israel risks becoming an apartheid state. yesterday kerry issued a lengthy statement saying he has never publicly or privately said that israel is an apartheid state or that it intends to become one. >> this is technically correct. >> but in the same statement he went on to say he, quote, knows the power of words to create a misimpression, even when unintentional, and if i could rewind the tape, i would have chosen a different word. >> so, willie, obviously politicians in washington, d.c., on both sides of the aisle, barbara boxer to ted cruz, not really happy with the statement. >> ted cruz calling for john kerry's resignation yet on the floor of the senate. does anyone think, though, that secretary kerry said that intentionally or do we think that was a gaffe? do you think he wanted that word out there to put pressure on? >> it's a word that's actually been used before by, you know, jimmy carter has used it. it's caused a lot of angst in foreign policy circles after he used it. there are some people that have used it. no secretary of state, though, has said that publicly or privately. and obviously it's not only causing a lot of concern in washington, but obviously in israel. >> i know, i think the secretary understands the impact of it. i just wonder did he say that intentionally? did he want that to slip out? did he want to put pressure on people or do you think it was just purely a gaffe? >> john, what do you think? he's obviously very frustrated that the peace process that he's been pushing so hard went off track. i wonder if that was just frustration talking to world leaders. >> my gut says it's more frustration than it was a calculated gaffe because it has blown up in this way. but to me it's the language of op-eds rather than the language of diplomacy. that's the thing that op-ed writers will put out there. it's not an unreasonable statement, risks the decline into a situation in which a political -- a minority, a racial minority is governing in an undemocratic way a racial majority. there are many people who are concerned that that is a possible thing that could happen. >> i couldn't disagree with you more. i couldn't disagree with you more for 20 years just about you saying that it's a reasonable statement. i think there are a lot of americans that don't think it is a reasonable statement. >> that there is a risk of that happening? >> yes. no, there's not a risk that the government of israel is going to devolve into what johannesburg was like back in the '60s, '70s and '80s. >> i think there is technically speaking, what many are concerned about and some israeli politicians have voiced this in the past that in a situation unless you have a two-state solution you will inevitably, because of demographic trends, have a jewish minority is trying to govern over a nonjewish majority and that in some sense could lead to an undemocratic -- >> don't mean to cut you off, we could debate israel for three hours. i wanted to go back to your bigger point and that was about john kerry using the language of op-ed writers. >> and i think that's a dangerous position for a secretary of state to get into. i think his explanation, though it's not going to the him out of hot water, he's actually speaking the truth in that he was trying to say, look, i'm not saying it is this, i'm saying this is the dangerous slippery slope and i shouldn't have said it in the way that i said it because it's kind of inflammatory. >> before we go to break there's been another deadly day of weather in the south. at least 11 people are dead after a second round of tornados tore through mississippi, alabama and tennessee. that brings the death toll since sunday to at least 28 people. in tupelo, mississippi, officials are reporting damage to every building in a two-block span with homes wiped away and power lines littered across the street. the tornado was so strong the local nbc meteorologist was forced to seek safety in the basement during a live broadcast. >> basement now. go! now. >> what? >> now! >> all right. now let's check in with bill karins for more on this, apparently not ending. >> and they were okay, by the way. the tornado kind of jumped right over their building, right near it. yeah, yesterday afternoon was very frightful for people from alabama, mississippi and even in portions of georgia for a portion last night. we're going to do it all over again today. here's the risk area for today, this area of red. unfortunately it's the same people that were just yesterday hunkering down in their basements, shelters or closets. this area of red, moderate risk of strong tornados once again today. hattiesburg, tuscaloosa, birmingham all included in this. you may go up into a high risk later on today. we still have some strong storms that just rolled through pensacola, panama city. not tornados but these storms will end as we go throughout the morning and weekend. in all, we have seen over 60 tornados in the last two days and we're going to probably see another dozen to two dozen today. we're also going to watch a ton of rain on the eastern seaboard. as far as that timing goes, guys, again, late this afternoon, this evening best chance for tornados. how's this for a number. 76 million people at risk of severe storms and tornados today. coming up next on "morning joe" former senator rick santorum is here. >> krpt nbc's tyler mathisen and jordan roth with a preview of this year's tony nominations up next. coming up next, the top stories in the political playbook. you are watching "morning joe." we'll be right back, i promise. vo: once upon a time there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where villages floated on water and castles were houses dragons lurked giants stood tall and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real avo: whatever you can imagine, all in one place expedia, find yours hey there can i help you? 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>> i don't think you need to connect the dots. >> he's giving her gifts and money and she's giving him sex so that's basically the relationship. mika, you had a great night last night. >> i did. >> a very important issue to you. >> the national eating disorders association honored me, which was unbelievable. it was their biggest event yet. diana williams from channel 7 was the emcee for the evening and these are -- there's diane smith, who co-wrote "obsessed with me" and dr. margo maine, who's an incredible eating disorders specialist, a therapist, and it was a wonderful, wonderful evening. really an epidemic across our country. and that woman went in and got a raise the next day. >> she didn't get fired. >> the next day. >> so this is obviously -- and we saw it with your book "obsessed," this is a critical issue for young men but also women of all ages. >> america's entire relationship with food and the diet that we have is not, you know, not healthy. >> congratulations. >> thank you. >> did you figure out what my eating disorder is? >> yes, you eat too much and it is not great food, so there you go. time to take a look -- but you look better lately. >> i'm kind of thinning out a little bit. >> i'm going to be honest. you know i'm always honest. >> t.j., don't ever do that shot again. >> why don't you center in on his chin. the wall street journal, the new york times, net income fell a whopping 51% last quarter. ouch. as higher operating costs overwhelmed revenue growth. the paper is projecting a midsingle-digit drop in sales next quarter. they describe the ad market as volatile on a month-to-month basis. print ad revenue is at its lowest level since 1950. when the newspaper association of america began tracking ad data. bad news for the "times." >> mike, those numbers are really bad. a precipitous drop. the lowest numbers for newspaper as far as ad revenue goes since 1950. >> across the board. you think of the things you want to sell as an individual, a home, a car, they're all online. and it's all gone. it's a precipitous drop. >> more parade of papers, the "san antonio news express" a texas teen is under arrest after bringing several weapons including a loaded ak-47 gun to their high school. he's charged with possession of a weapon in a prohibited place making it a terrorist threat. reports say he wanted to read a list of demands over the school intercom, no weapons were fired and no one was hurt. thank god the parents were alert to the fact and called authorities. >> horrible. the "chicago tribune" says the amount of violence teenagers are exposed to as fallen drastically during the last decade. the university of new hampshire report says that children reported less exposure to violent behavior between 2003 and 2011. researchers say violence prevention strategies have been on the rise in recent years, especially at school. and "the new york times," the white house is releasing a series of guidelines to pressure colleges to combat sexual assault on campus. the recommendations urge them to conduct anonymous surveys and also asks universities to crack down on cases by adopting successful policies from other schools. the guidelines are from a task force created by the president earlier this year. the "times picayune" embattled celebrity chef paula deen announced plans for a 20-city tour this summer. the move comes as deen continues to launch a comeback following a racial slur and scandal that damaged her image nearly a year ago. paula deen live will feature a mix of cooking, interactive games and personal stories from the chef. you know what, they might want to cut out that part, especially if it's ad lib. i'm just telling you. she's going to do it again. >> i can't believe you would think somebody that was -- you would think, willie, somebody that is this embattled would not get the guests that she's going to get at these tours. unbelievable. the west coast part of the tour, you know who her special guest is going to be? >> who? >> this guy. >> stop it! >> this guy. >> stop it! >> this guy cooks a mean lasagna. >> pours a lot of butter in there. >> and triple fried lasagna. but look at this. >> no disrespect. >> there's no disrespect intended, but his chin has paid for his cooking prowess. >> i don't really understand the cooking of hers is incredibly unhealthy. >> it's delicious. >> it's delicious. >> and her use of words and attitudes toward people is incredibly like four decades back. i don't get her. >> he's going to clean up the act for her. let's go to willie right now. >> let's look at the editor in chief of politico, mr. john harris. >> good morning, willie. >> let's talk about congressman michael grimm from right here in new york city over in staten island. he says federal fraud charges will not stop him from winning re-election this fall. he's facing 20 criminal counts for allegedly failing to account more than a million bucks in sales and wages at a manhattan restaurant he once managed. what does the future look like for congressman grimm. >> well, it is a little grim if you let me apologize for overworking that pun, which has been used many times for michael grimm, but the situation is really bad. politicians when they get in trouble seem to go through these stages of grief where they feel they can work their way out of their problems. every once in a while they do. sometimes somebody gets really sick and they get better. usually they get sick and they die. in michael grimm's stages of grief, he's setting up meetings with house gop leaders in which he's clearly looking for a sign of support. hey, are you with me? >> the question eventually becomes why would you stay? how can you be effective? every once in a while the voters decide this in the politicians' favor. we have to realize usually when they're in the soup this deep, they don't. >> john harris, thanks a lot, john. still ahead, rick santorum has a simple plan for conservatives wanting to retake the white house in 2016. he says don't forget the blue collar vote. he joins us next. more "morning joe" right after this. when i started weight watchers i wasn't sure what to expect at the meetings. but i really love going. i do! it reminds me we don't have to do this alone. it's so much better to have some backup and to do it together because we all face similar challenges. the meetings keep me focused and motivated. and i have a newfound determination that i'm really proud of. 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president obama's disapproval ratings are weighing down democratic congressman bruce braley's bid. his negative comments on farmers have hurt his cause. >> you might have a farmer from iowa who never went to law school serving as the next chair of the senate judiciary committee. >> with polling continuing to show him garnering less than 40% against his gop rivals. and in my home state of oregon, the gop appears to be pinning its hopes on unseating jeff merkley with dr. monica webbe. she is being praised for her fund-raising prowess and a new ad may play well where the obamacare rollout has been a disaster. >> dr. webby was the first person that gave us hope. she was the first person that said, congratulations, you're having a daughter. >> the anointing of her may be premature as many polls show her trailing jason conger. senator america m echt r -- mer appears vulnerable. if expanding the map allows the gop to travel down the oregon trail, it could prove to be a rough ride for the republicans. joe, mika, back to you. you know, we were talking in break about this "washington post"/abc poll which as a republican, the republican in me would like to believe there's a 13 or 14-point gap in the generic ballot test. i don't see that happening in a week and a half. >> yeah, it seems a little -- you call something an outlier until you see what comes after it but i think it's a little -- it seems a little bit outside the lines of what we would consider normally. these things happen sometimes even with reliable polls. occasionally you see one way outside. >> it could be accurate but there is obviously a lot of volatility. with us now former presidential candidate and former republican senator from pennsylvania, rick santorum. he's the author of "blue collar conservatives" recommitting to an america that works. ri rick, if republicans are going to do well in 2014, republicans need to reconnect with blue collar voters that elected ronald reagan. >> joe scarborough. >> and elected -- it's the blue collar voters that win elections for us. >> it used to be the base. >> what happened? >> well, we've gone off the rails. you hear this talk about establishment republicans versus the tea party. but i think it's establishment republicans versus sort of the working guy. you have all these folks who fund campaigns who are focused just on big businesses and wall street and even small business, all of which are important elements of our society, but we forget that the idea -- i have a whole chapter in the book on this, where a rising tide lifts all votes. not if your vote has a hole in it. a lot of americans have holes in their votes. they have issues they're dealing with, whether it's family or personal or financial. so when they hear about this rising tide coming up and new technology and new this, and they're one of the 70% of the americans who don't have a college education, they're enthusiasticing, wait a minute, my vote is going to sink, i'm not going to rise. and in fact in this economy it has been sinking. >> and average wages for working americans have been going down consistently since 19 -- since 1973, rick. there's a debate right now, the intellectuals are having it, over this new book "capital in the 21st century." and there's this presumption that republicans automatically have to side with the 1%. no. >> we don't. >> but that's where we've been perceived to side and that's where a lot of our leaders have sided. >> look at what ronald reagan did. what ronald reagan did and i'm not saying we need to go back to reagan policies, but the principle behind what reagan tried to do with the tax code was try to equalize the tax on labor and capital. if you remember the 1976 tax act, he reduced the top rate to 28%. oh, it's a horrible thing. remember, when you're taxing income, you're taxing workers. it's a tax on labor, it's a tax on work. so he raised the capital gains tax was high, it was almost equal to the -- >> which is at the center of the book. >> of that book, right. >> which is when people are making more money on their capital, on passive investments than workers in america, that's when we lose. >> the whole idea is if you want more of something, subsidize it, if you want less of something, tax it. so the idea of cutting taxes is a good idea. >> on income, for workers. >> on income. and i'm not one of these guys, oh, we need to zero the capital gains and all this stuff. i disagree with that. >> let me ask the other guys really quickly and see if you agree with me. warren buffett should not be paying 14% tax rate while his secretary is paying 28% tax rate, true or false? >> in the book i address the issue that we have to reform the tax code. people are saying why are people not being hired? because of the regulatory environment of this administration. obamacare putting another tax on labor by saying if you want to hire somebody, you've got to pay them this and pay them that. we keep -- for helping people, the minimum wage, we're going to help people. we're going to make wages more. you do that, you disin sent viez people to hire and incentivize them to buy a machine. >> when you raise the minimum wage you disincentivize them? >> of course, you make labor more expensive. >> what about rebuilding the american labor trade union. >> i've never been an anti-union guy. i've always gotten a large share of the union vote. i'm a big guy on manufacturing, on energy production. we need to create an economy that works for working people. and this book, if you look at it, there's a big plan on how to get manufacturing up and going, and educational opportunities, vocational training, all the things we need to do to create the skilled workers we need to make sure these jobs can be done. >> john. >> 2016, you were the runner-up in 2012. >> i was. thank you for reminding me. can you say that again? a lot of people say that. >> rick santorum, runner-up in 2012. >> 11 states, did you mention i won 11 states. >> i didn't, but i'm glad that you did. >> most since ronald reagan in 1976. >> i was about to praise you some more. >> go ahead, i'll back away. >> as you know being the runn runner-up is a pretty good thing if you want to run again. why wouldn't you run in 2016? >> really the only reason is family considerations. we have seven children, we have a lot of issues with our youngest daughter and as you know that was a big factor in the last race. i've got to make sure everybody is healthy and ready to go. >> how's bella doing? >> she's doing great. i thank everybody for their prayers and their thoughts sending her way, but that's sort of the big issue for me is always family first. >> if it wasn't for that do you think you could win? >> look, i thought i could have won last time. i'm convinced, i asked one of the obama minions, why didn't you guys help me? i was up there battling romney and all these folks on msnbc saying wouldn't it be great if santorum was the nominee. why didn't you help me? why didn't you hit me as being conservative, help me out a little bit? and the consensus was we didn't want you because of this. you know, there was a survey, when i finished the campaign, two days after the campaign, i met with the campaign manager for romney and his pollster. neil newhouse handed me a poll from pennsylvania, this is all in the book, and it says we started noticing that the exit polls were always wrong with you. so we started asking this question. who are you going to vote for and when are you planning to vote? they showed this survey from pennsylvania that if you were going to vote -- this is three days before i got out. if you were voting before noon, i was up by five. if you vote between noon and 5:00 i was down four. if you vote after five, i was up 21. >> when working people go to the polls. >> and that's what the other side is scared to death of. >> the book is "blue collar deserve afterno conservatives." i hope you come back. >> i'd love to come back. 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they're the real patriots. they really love the country that they're trying to provide and split. some very good news. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. the jobless rate down to 6.3%. the number of new jobs created, catch this, 288,000, way more than a quarter million. this is just in the one month of frill. the stock market this week hit its highest level in american history, more than doubling since president obama's inauguration. what was the republican's reply to all of this news? to rain on the parade. and you have to wonder if this isn't without a purpose. that being to discourage the consumer from spending, encourage business leaders to horde their cash, put off investing, sit on the money they had all ready to invest if mitt romney had won. but you don't have to wonder how loudly the republicans would be celebrating had they held these brags rights other numbers like these. a solid drop in the unemployment. well more than a quarter million new jobs in just a month. the highest r point in the history of the stock market. what do you think priebus, boehner and eric cantor would be saying about those apples? they would do the republican equivalent of high-fiving each other, whatever that is. and doing cartwheels on fox telling sean hannity that they were, in fact, in heaven. anyway, eugene robinson is a columnist for "the washington post." and alex wagner is the host of "now" on msnbc. two great people to join me. the oobs lute hilarity, when everything is turning up roses. reince preibus comes out and eric cantor -- maybe the unemployment wait doesn't get to their eroj nous zone the way it does to the democrats. but certainly the stock market through the roof. wouldn't they be saying good fine work by this man, good work. >> everything would be coming up roses, happy days would be here again, except that's a democratic sthougt. no, it would be morning again in america. >> right. a. >> why don't democrats tell the story, right? >> yes. this is a problem with the democratic party maybe for a while now. they don't know how to win. >> they don't know how to tell their accomplishments. chris, we got mugs with the president's birth certificate? where are the mugs showing the numbers out of the great recession. >> today before he began. the president took a moment to tout april's exciting job numbers. and repeat there's more to do. let's listen to him. >> we have to keep a focus on job creation and creating more opportunities for working families. there's plenty more congress should be doing, creating good construction jobs, rebuilding america. i want to work with them wherever i can, but i keep acting on my own wherever i must to make sure every american who works hard has the chance to get ahead. >> explain that. >> why is he like that today? is he caught up on something else? >> maybe he's thinking about ukraine. which is a general downer and so maybe that's why it was such a dour recitation of what one would think he would be clicking his heels about. strutting around the rose garden saying look, i told you these were the right economic policies. 23 we would all just be patient for a while, things were getting better. and look, nings are better. 6.3%. 288,000 jobs. >> i like the way you're doing it. of. >> it is funny . i guess we'll get on to this. they're doing the opposite of glee. they're doing what you know republicans would be thrilled with these numbers. the stock market has always been their -- anyway, republicans had to acknowledge the good numbers. then, of course, began to damn the whole thing with feign praise. quote, we're happy that more americans were able to find work last month, but more and more people are dropping out of our work force. then he adds this jab. oba obamacare is to blame for slashing workers' hours. speakers john boehner joined the welcome news but put in the shift. quote, president obama ought to call on the democrat-led senate to take up the jobs measures s get it moving again. it's time senate democrats stop ignoring these stacks of bills so that we can help hardworking americans deal with their stacks of bill bps. very cleverly put by some staffer up there. they issued these statements on paper. they didn't even phone them in. >> it's unconscionable. it's unconscionable that john boehner of all the people to say stop sitting on your hands. start passing some legislation. here's a dude who's basically a dead end for any kind of bipartisan effort at anything at all times. and then has the audacity in two weeks to go back home in ohio say oh, whoa, it's so hard passing legislation. telling members of his own party to buck up. it's outrageous. >> let's talk about the strategy behind this. i don't know the president's strategy for being somewhat hesitant here. there are certainly poor people and there will always be poor people. there's one logic to this on the republican side. we've got a poll out that says that people who are absolutely certain, look people are going to vote this november, which is a lot of politics. we isolate some of this from the paper's poll. an improving economy could boost democratic turnout in november. among those democrats who are thinking well, three-quarters of those who rate the economy positively say they're absolutely certain to vote in november. just 58% who rart the economy negatively are absolutely certain to vote. so if you can get most americans to think it's not happy, nothing going well, if you could work them down to say it's okay, but not so great, you can get them not to vote. >> it's the republican playbook. why is the president acting leak this. >> does he know the playbook? >> then it becomes a base election. then republicans fire up their base with obama care and benghazi, whatever. so democrats just sit home. a. >> frankly roosevelt except the smirts up. he said we're getting there. things are getting better. >> i think the president has had oceans of patience in terms of not getting -- i think in some degree his spirit, when he talks about working with congress, he knows the next three years are going to be executive actions and that's basically it. >> there has been many moments when he has been forceful and optimist optimistic. it's just that today would have been a good day. i do think economics drives politics. the economy, gas lines, got to blame somebody for this crap. clinton on the other hand swam through his problems. the economy was really good. so the context of most of the politics that we talk about, personality at all often times comes in that package, that box that says how are you doing? >> it's that whole atmosphere. you take on the chark tacterist of the atmospheres. the atmospherics should be getting better. >> the republicans are doing a good job. >> if the news is bad, they're going to be the ones that are going to give the middle class and the working class a chance at fighting back. that is the elegant and overarching strategy here. we're going to keep telling you guys that we're the ones fighting. >> everybody says you shouldn't brag and the bush family would never brag, but the fact is that's old money talking. old money doesn't have to brag. >> new money does. >> yeah. and i look at -- i washed the feet of some good democratic candidates because they didn't know how to do it. we just came off of eight great years of the clinton era. he wouldn't do it. the lock box and all this stuff about deficits. >> you've got to blow your own horn. >> consensus and intellectual honesty. the it's hard for them to have no compunction about winning. it's hard for the left at some times. >> thank you. >> i think i you've got to get out there and sell it. >> if you've got a good product, sell it. >> anyway, eugene robinson, alice wagner, today's latest on the right's benghazi's obsession. darrell issa subpoenas john kerry, then speaker boehner moves to create a new formal select committee to investigate apparently the other four committees already investigating this nonscandal weren't enough to do the job. also the news again kooeps getting worse for chris christie. today, we learned that many of christie's wealthiest and best connected donors are preparing to jump ship if jeb bush gets into the presidential race. and i guess he's getting in. and president obama's sharp elbows at tomorrow's white house correspondent dinner. look for the president to use his humor as a weapon. are you listening, donald trump? 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i'm going to argue that watching this thing, i do have a file cabinet in my head. i can follow this thing. it's not like every day is is a brand-new thing. consistently we've gotten reports that what happened was there was a copycat kind of thing. there were terrorists, there were protests all over the middle east at that time. cairo was all over the media. that led into kind of a copycat operation in this benghazi facility out there. and of course, the whole thing seems to have come out of anger in the islamic and arab world about this crazy and obnoxious video that went out. that's in the news, that's in this new e-mail that came out. that was in the bipartisan report on the intelligence committee. what's new, pussy cat? why do they keep making this a big deal? >> because there's nothing else. their theory was always that the white house deceived the public because they were so scared that the public would look at obama's kournt terrorism credentials with suspicion going into the re-election two months after the benghazi attack. and so we have all these e-mails that come out tho showed it wasn't the white house who created the talking points as being related to the video or somehow related to the video. and the talking points tell us it was the cia, the state department, not the white house that put that language together and now they're talking about a over-up of a cover-up that didn't exist. at the time, reports from libya, media reports said the same thing. and investigations by the senate intelligence committee and "the new york times" both come up with the same conclusion. so even with what susan rice said, if not entirely accurate was kind of close to what other people found. so if there's a difference of opinion here, it wasn't -- >> i think it's close to what we know months and years later now. my question, is this something in the republican brain soup? did they somehow get the idea that something bad happened here? if you've got boehner under sodium pen thol, imagiathol, im thought -- what's your worst case scenario about what happened. not press releases that were issued. did anybody deserve blame for a beloved ambassador getting killed? >> i don't have any idea what they believe. i think some believe that. >> believe what? hillary was out doing something else? >> something like that. or that there had to be some kind of lack of preparedness on the obama administration's part for this to have happened. i think a lot of them don't even believe it. they're really drinking crazy juice over there at that committee now. and they're ratcheting this up. the rhodes e-mail as you said, is exactly like the cia talking points that susan rice got. and there's just nothing new here. >> here's krauthammer. smart guy here. charles krauthammer who writes a big syndicated column. he said they're making far reaching comparisons when it comes to the newly disclosed ben rhodes e-mail. here's krauthammer himself. >> to me, the equivalent of what was discovered with the nixon tapes. the point is that republicans have done a terrible job in building a case. they had appointed a special committee a long time ago, the way it was done in watergate, we would have had answers on this and the country wouldn't be tired. >> he's changing his story originally. he said they blew it. now he's saying if they had done it right they could have done it. but he's not even saying there's something there. do you listen to charles there? does he say there's something there? >> he says it's watergate. >> no, he's not. he's saying they should have used the same investigative effort they did with watergate. >> but for 40 years, this is the big picture. 40 years, republicans and conservatives have wanted their watergate. in the '90s they tried to get clinton on whitewater, filegate, fbi, all those things. >> whitecat water. >> and now they're trying with obama. benghazi, fast and furious, just keep throwing the spaghetti at the wall, seeing if anything sticks. enbenghazi is too good for them. it gives them the weak on national defense tag. >> you know the problem. you have to have a coloneled idea, like a break-in of the headquarters. >> you used to. not anymore. that's old school, chris. >> yeah. >> you get a republican, you say to the guy a few things, what do you think was the bad thing done by hillary clinton? >> they don't care. they want to keep hillary clinton out of the white house. they want to keep the embassy revved up for the vote this fall, and they want to keep the headlines coming. subpoena john kerry. they played no preparation for them. issa just subpoenaed him out of the blue. they don't care what comes of it. >> he wasn't there then. >> john kerry has to testify. then kerry will go testify. then more hanging testifies when kerry testifies and they can just make it go on forever. >> the white house is taking heat for not disclosing the e-mail sooner. now, here's jay carney facing off with abc's jonathan carr who's actually quite good at his questioning here earlier this week. let's listen to carr going after carney. >> why were you holding back this information? why was this e-mail not turned over to the congress? why was it not released when you released all the other e-mails. this is directly relevant. >> john again -- >> why did it take a court case for you to release this. >> i can say it again and again and you can keep asking again and again. this document was about benghazi. >> it was the prep for the subject. >> it wasn't her only prep, john. she relied for her answers on benghazi on the document prepared by the cia, as did members of congress. >> this is not the thing i want to argue about in my life, how people screw things up. rolling disclosures is the worst thing in the world. the longer you keep it, the more it rots. the more it smells. get it out if you have it. >> and they waited for a while to get out the initial batch we were talking about a year ago. it took them a while to do that. and these come out. now the republicans are saying that's theish shup. >> this is about bad management. i don't think it was jay carney's decision. it was a lawyer dealing with this. or an archivist for all we know. >> is there a character problem here with the former secretary of state or not and no one is pointing to anything that's real here. >> what's real is that the state department, cia, defense department, had a situation in which somebody and three others go the killed. there's a lot to look at. a lot of blame to go around for that event. but what republicans are looking at has nothing to do with that. they don't care about protecting -- >> can anybody here get back to life. a courageous, really courageous ambassador goes out, takes a trip. he knew there was some risks. he made a calculated decision that went bad. this happens in life. it happens in war all the time. it happens in diplomacy. it's a horrible world sometimes and they're trying to explit this into some stupid, damn political thing. i've got to go. sorry. i've got to get rid of you. anyway, david corn and michael dumanski. up next, have we finally seen enough of rob ford? 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tomorrow is the white house correspondent dinner. we'll be talking more about that in the show. in the meantime, some comedic highlights of the past courtesy of c-span. >> feel walk around all kinds of delusi delusions. men walking around thinking they're jesus. men walking around thinking they're napoleon. men walking around thinking congress is going to pass their budget in the first 100 days. >> i have an announcement for you watching tonight's event live on c-span. for good sad sake, it's saturda night. >> president clinton had some wonderful, wonderful international triumphs such as bringing the israelis and arabs together. do you remember that day on the white house. they were all in step. up next, the sinking chris christie ship is rapidly losing happy passengers. ups is a global company, but most of our employees live in the same communities that we serve. people here know that our operations have an impact locally. we're using more natural gas vehicles than ever before. the trucks are reliable, that's good for business. but they also reduce emissions, and that's good for everyone. it makes me feel very good about the future of our company. ♪ stick with innovation. stick with power. stick with technology. get the flexcare platinum from philips sonicare and save now. philips sonicare president obama an angela america kel met at the white house to discus the rising violence in ukraine. the president warned the increasing rising price for russia if they don't change course. in the ukrainian city of odessa, a fire left 31 people dead. it started new violent flashes. and the u.s. had its first confirm eed case of mers. now back to "hardball." welcome back to "hardball." chris christie wants to run in 2016 for president, of course. he says the bridge scandal of his won't stop him. >> many voters if they consider this issue at all in considering my candidacy, if there ever is one, i've got a feeling it will be a very small element, if any element at all. >> there's certainly nothing that's happened in the last, you know, number of months since we talked about this the last time that would make me think any differently about my ability to be able to pursue that job or to perform it. >> i am who i am. and for some people, they love it. i will tell you, when i travel around new jersey, i hear from most people that's the thing they love the most. >> what about iowa? >> oh, well, i think they love me in iowa, too, diane. i've been there a lot. i think they love me there, too. >> voting states like iowa, christie will be making an appearance there in iowa and south carolina the next few months. he's already been to florida. he made a pit stop of course out in las vegas in march to court gop megan donor sheldon adelson and cozied up to the republican party's base at this year's cpac conference. it might be his fantasy to sit in the big office in the white house, but here's the reality crashing down all around him. the u.s. attorney's criminal investigation into crist tie's office is accelerating. christie's allies will be taking the witness stand in a new round of legislative hearings starting next weekend in trenton. his support has plummeted in national and local polls in new jersey. and today, some of his donors are running in exodus for jeb bush. in private conversations that are now seeping into public view, some donors are signalling to tryst christie's camp that should mr. bush enter the race, their first loyalty would be to him, not mr. christie. this is according to interviews with more than two dozen of those fat cats. you, sir, have been the star of the story, so report. is christie off on some cloud nine on this thing? and if so he's the only one there because these other republicans who are very conscious of money and winning. that's what they mean to these big guys. they think he's not their guy right now. they're looking at bush. >> they're smart. they know there's uncertainty. what christie is doing and saying publicly is what he has to do and say. he has to hope there's some kind of exoneration that comes out of this. >> isn't that his problem, he won't get a clearance early. there will be all these traps he has to get through. >> this week is a perfect demonstration. here we are talking about christie in 2016 and here he's saying nothing is going to hold me back. but at the same time, we learn one of his closest confidents, a guy he tried to put in the state supreme court in new jersey has now been subpoenaed or about to be subpoenaed by the u.s. attorney. >> david samson. >> no, no. it's another name. that's a new story this week. as long as this goes on and all indications are this is something that's going to play out, not over days but over weeks and months, as long as this goes on, there's going to be uncertainty there. and no donor is going to sit down right now and say chris christie is my guy. they don't know -- nobody knows where this is going. >> that's the good thing about republican money people. they're focused on money. that's how they got to be rich. they're thinking where do i put my quarter or my buck or my ten thousand bucks or hundred thousand bucks. i'm not going to put it on a fum bertha's not going to come up. >> but guess what number is not going to come up? jeb bush. >> kathleen parker said she's done her reporting and he's running. >> he may be running. he's not whenning. for these gop mega donors to be looking so seriously at him just shows -- >>ing o, so where should they be going? >> i don't know. >> i see one name. i see scott walker. i see one guy who is a somewhere in the center right, he's a governor, which ask really important. he's got a job. >> he's got to win re-election. but you're right, he does fit the bill. but this week, nbc/wall street journal poll, jeb bush has a 21% approval rating. you can't blame that on lack of name recognition. the bush name is the most famous name in politics. >> let's take a look at this poll. this is how far christie has fallen. he was consistently on top of the polls for the 2016 nomination before this scandal hit. but in this week's washington post, this week's post, an abc poll, christie is trailing paul ryan, mike huckabee, jeb bush and rand paul. christie also lost his crossover appeal. christie with an impressive 45% approval rating among new jersey democrats. in their latest poll that number has plummeted down to 25%. as we mentioned, "the new york times" is reporting that many of christie's donors may abandoned him if jeb bush runs. christie's donors make up a group that according to the book "double down" christie is extremely protective of. this is their account of a meeting between romney and christie in a lead-up between 2012 ele. christie also told romney something else. unless christie made up his mind about endorsing romney, he wanted none of the candidates including mitt to raise money in new jersey. let's be clear, if you jump the gun and start raising money here, you can almost certainly kiss my support goodbye. romney left the meeting incredulous at romney's dictate and back room delivery. it's like something out of the so ppran sopranos. are you kidding me? this rhymes with what we've also seen about christie's behavior. >> do you remember when there was the whole clamoring in the fall of 2011 for mitt to make a last-minute entry into the race. it was coming from the big money people who had ties to njs in many cases. this is the same crew right now, if you read that article, this is the similar crew right now that in a lot of cases express doubt with -- >> finish with you. christie is too hot to handle, we agree? and jeb bush is too dull? >> and too moderate for ted cruz. >> this leaves them in big trouble. i thought they' been in big trouble for a long time. >> these folks do not want rand paul to bubble up. and they're terrifies that's exactly what's happening. they're casting about for other people. christie doesn't have a chance. jeb bush doesn't have a chance. >> let me give you a republican horror story. rand paul is the nominee. if you're concerned about israel, foreign policy getting to mushy. and you got to decide between rand paul and hillary clinton. now your wife is going crazy for hillary clinton. you may also be, but your wife definitely is. and all the pressure is on you. you're going to push rand paul on me? 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's 28 more years. our dogs need leadership now. >> who let the dogs out? >> this guy. and that's why we need to join mitt romney this american. and dog gone it, i ride outside. paid for by the woof pac. >> with us now is liz winstead co-creator of the daily show and dana milbank of "the washington post." it seems to me, liz, that obama does have some skill in this area of the stiletto attack on people's he's had a urging to go after for a long time. but, saved for the comedy night to do it. >> well, i think that -- i think that he has an advantage where he's got some great writers. and i think you really can hit hard when you -- when you make a point with humor, you disarm somebody because you can't really stop laughing like if somebody makes you laugh it's automatic, right? you can't like pretend you're not laughing or think it's not funny. and so when your charm can come from speaking truth, pointing out some hypocrisy and getting a laugh in it, there's really nothing more powerful. >> well, what do you think there, dana? you do this all the time. >> well, speaking of these dinners is really a high wire act. because you know, if you deliver it right. it's -- it's very powerful. but think about when george w. bush did this thing about looking under the desk for the wmd. huge disaster. >> nothing bugged me more than the reporters who were laughing that night. >> yeah. >> because you don't laugh at the horror of a war that was unfounded. >> that was a terrible mistake. now he's going to have lots much great writers like people like liz who are giving him great material. but you got to be careful to be a little self-deprecating but not in the wrong area -- >> wait a minute you just put a little bit of information on the table there. liz, are you helping the president this time? are you helping him? >> no, sir, i am not. >> okay. just wanted to correct that. anyway -- >> he should only be so lucky. >> i would say that, too. >> in 2011, president obama effectively used the correspondents' dinner to mock the conspiracy theory of the birthers. first he unveiled his long form birth certificate in an intentionally kitschy video. then after he took to the podium he offered the skeptics even more. >> tonight, i'm prepared to go a step further. tonight, for the first time, i am releasing my official birth video. ♪ >> liz, can you -- i don't know what your writers meetings are when you sort of do these reads with your talent, you know, with jon stewart and people like that. imagine trying to sell this to the press today. what we want you to do here is to go all the way in the other direction, and tell this story of how you were born in africa, in this hakuna matata kind of thing going on here. that must have been pretty hard to sell. >> or was it just so brilliant because it's like how do we address this once and for all and lay it on the table? and to be able to go out there so far i think is awesome. but i think that, i think dana is right, that the high wire act really is being super aware of how the public views you. you know, when you look at the polls and congress is polling in single digits, you have to make sure that it's not really about democrats, or about republicans, you know, you can jab a little bit but it's really about wow, we are broken. and what are the parts of the brokenness that america can laugh at and then go in for your joke there? >> you're good at this. i always wondered, you have to go to the truth and find it first. it would be remiss not to mention this classic which i love. also from 2011 when president obama went after donald trump in the room. >> we all know about your credentials and breadth of experience. for example, seriously, just recently in an episode of "celebrity apprentice," at the steak house the men's cooking team did not impress the judges from omaha steaks. and there was a lot of blame to go around, but you, mr. trump, recognized that the real problem was a lack of leadership and so ultimately you didn't blame little john or meat loaf, you fired gary busey. and these are the kind of decisions that will keep me up at night. well handled, sir. well handled. >> that was rich. >> and it was devastating. i mean if donald trump weren't already seen as a buffoon completely, that completely finished him off there. my prediction, he better hope that darrell issa is in the audience. he's ready. >> it's a ripe target. that's like them going after cantaloupes. thank you liz winstead. you're a genius. we'll be right back after this. around here you don't make excuses. you make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up, and make it right. some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where it's needed most. but i know you'll still find it when you know where to look. when you didn't dread when youbedtime becausenner with anticipaof heartburn.itation. when damage to your esophagus caused by acid reflux disease wasn't always on your mind. that's when you knew nexium was the prescription medication for you. because for over a decade nexium has provided many just like you with 24-hour relief from heartburn and helped heal acid-related erosions in the lining of the esophagus. and now the prescription nexium you know can be delivered directly to your door with nexium direct. talk to your doctor to see if nexium is right for you. there is risk of bone fracture and low magnesium levels. side effects may include headache, abdominal pain, and diarrhea. if you have persistent diarrhea, contact your doctor right away. other serious stomach conditions may exist. avoid if you take clopidogrel. for 24 hour support, automatic refills, and free home delivery, enroll at purplepill.com. it's the nexium you know, now delivered. or it's pittsville, brah. it's never too late to learn a foreign language! go and smell the roses! 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"all in with chris hayes" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. the speaker of the house announced today the house will vote to establish a new select committee on benghazi. also today, the house oversight committee subpoenaed secretary of state john kerry. two very aggressive and very rare moves that signal house republicans are not abandoning their obsession with tying the white house to the attacks in benghazi. on the contrary, it looks like they are just getting started. today, john boehner tweeted out the announcement of a select committee with this very slick graphic. you are looking at right now. and, if you look at this graphic carefully, if you look closely at it, it embodies everything about the not one, but two be

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report," fair beings balanced and unafraid. greta goes "on the record" right now and "special report" starts in five seconds. i'm greta van susteren, and, yes, this is "on the record." and up first the smoking gun. a declassified email exposing a direct link between the white house and the controversial benghazi talking points. and now other news organizations joining fox and demanding answers. >> it just seems that there is a political calculation that was being made in these emails. >> tried very hard this morning to distance the white house from the ambassador's remarks on the sunday shows. >> is there a suggestion she got confused. >> you knew full well that these sunday show appearances were going to be dominated by the attack on benghazi. >> relied on points about the benghazi attack that were produced by the cia. >> it did not come from the cia. now we see a document that comes from the white house not the cia attributing the protest to the video. >> the fact that there were protests around the region, threatening our embassies, it was entirely appropriate to have question and answer document prepared for the video it was based on what we knew at the time. >> why were you holding back this information? why was the email not turned over to the congress? why was it not released when you released all the other emalsz? this is directly relevant? why did you hold it back? >> this document was not about benghazi. >> it was a prep for sunday shows. >> it wasn't her only prep, john. >> you said at the podium last year that the white house and the state department only changed one word. we now know, obviously we know for some time that is not true. can you correct the record on that. >> when it comes to correcting records, you know, we can get into that. i am happy to recite and for as long as you like. >> okay. we just saw it but what was it like inside that very tense briefing room today. fox senior white house correspondent wendell goler joins us. wendell, it seems very tense on the outside. what was it like inside that room? >> well, greta, not very tense for me because by the time jay carney called on me, all the questions about'pñ benghazi had been asked though i'm not really sure how many of them were answered. carney says the email that judicial watch pried out of the white house showed then u.s. ambassador susan rice being briefed by deputy national security advisor about u.s. protests and a u.s. protest in cairo, cartoom and elsewhere in the world based on anti-islam movie made in this country. heated exchanges between john carney and jim accosta when carney was asked why rice responded to questions about the attack on the u.s. consulate in b9&ctkzi with talking points aimed at the broader arab region as she did when she attended all the sunday news shows. carney said rice didn't mix up her talking points though. the director of the cia at the time has said that their initial analysis of the attack on the consulate had nothing to do with the anti-islam movie and simplest explanation for what carney had to say is that he may have been trying to protect then ambassador rice. though administration critics say that rice was trying to protect the president's claim that al guide was on the run. remember, all this happened about two months before the presidential election, greta. >> in fact, wendell, the reporters when they walked away from today's briefing, did they sense that they got answers out of the administration or did they feel like carney was basically doing some sort of two step and not answering? >> as i said, i'm not sure how many of these questions were answered. i'm sure that these questions will be asked again. it is somewhat gratifying that it's not just fox asking these questions. all the networks are asking them now. but i'm not sure jay carney has answered them to the satisfaction of the reporters, all the reporters in the room, greta. >> wendell, thank you. and, at best, the white house is handling benghazi has been a huge disaster. at worse? a coverup. as bad as it is did press secretary jay carney today just make it worse. co-host of the five and former press secretary for president george w. bush, she joins us. good evening, deign. >> that hi. thanks for having me. >> dana, how did jay carney handle this today? how do you look at this? >> well, here's one of the ways that i look at going into the briefing room is that if you're walking down the ramp and into the briefing room and think i have got this handled. you maybe should turn around and go back in the office and get yourself together again. because there is always just one more thing that is going to be asked about. and condescending tones, i think, back fire in the briefing room. i think today what they were looking for in the white house press corps was asking for some candidness, something that would be sincere and refreshing. i don't think that they got that. i have always approached the communications world and especially the amazing role of press secretary as one of just tremendous, enormous responsibility. and 50% of what you do as press secretary is defend and advocate for the president. but there is another part of the job, that's the other auto% which is to protect the role of the press to make sure that they are getting the answers that they are asking for. >> let me ask you, this ben rhodes email that is dated friday september 14th which people are now talking about and, you know, in which it says things that -- well, it says that what the purpose of the whole briefing for ambassador rice is supposed to be. tell me this. does this likely -- and i realize you weren't there does this email likely go above ben rhodes? >> i cannot imagine a scenario where you would have a deputy communications director of a white house of the national security council give a cabinet level officer administration official susan rice information to use on a sunday show not just one sunday show but five of them that would not have gone further. and, in fact, greta, we know that it went further. how do we know that? because the email is copied to all of the higher ups. ben rhodes was doing his job. i don't for one second think he dreamed this out of the air. there was either specific policy or political direction that said we wanted to make sure that the goal is that we focus onen this being an internet video causing the protest and that it's not a problem of broader foreign policy. i do not believe. >> which i should add in direct contradiction to what mike more morell, acting director of the cia said a month ago in a hearing which we are now hearing about 19 months later after there have been many opportunities for the white house to release this information and to provide these emails. it took a lawsuit. >> i think that the american people would have understood if the white house had said yes, of course, we were trying to protect the president. even if they had just said, this you know, after the election said well, maybe we shouldn't have tried to do that we were trying to help the president. i actually think that people probably would have forgiven them. they insisted that they had nothing to do pushing the video from the white house. we now know that is not true. i do not think it will wash for jay carney to try to suggest that the email labeled benghazi was not about benghazi when he they were prepping her for questions about benghazi. if they believe that, then the white house press corps has lost all credibility. but they haven't. i mean, you saw that briefing today. they haven't focused on this solely, but when you have something like this come forward, after it was redacted, remember, this goes to the white house council's office. it's a document email. white house council approves redacting. that basically means blacking it out so you can't read it they give that. >> defense lawyers say hiding. >> they were hiding it they give that to the committee on capitol hill. they ridicule and make found of the committee for months saying ha ha you can't find anything that links us to the video. why couldn't we? because somebody thought it was a good idea to he redact that i think unacceptable. who in the white house council's office approves that. >> to use my word hiding it. i think a lot of things are classified to hide things. anyway, that's just me. >> bye-bye. >> okay. let's go off-the-record and good for abc's jonathan karl. he was so aggressively questioning jay carney today about benghazi. >> why were you holding back this information? why was this email not turned over to the congress? why was it not release when you hady-:í released all the other emails? this is directly relevant? why did you hold it back? >> no matter how much president obama and his staff insists benghazi is a phony scandal, we want and deserve all the answers. for starters, who made up that silly video story calls for benghazi and why? until right now, most of the media have been giving the white house a pass, even the a.p. who is supposed to be the gold standard in journalism. here is the example. a.p. report matt lee sent an email two days after benghazi to then state department spokesperson that read in part: the utter b.s. being spread around on fox is really unbelievable. i think you know or should know i'm not a fan of any particular administration or policy and i'm not shy about calling out inconsistencies but this is shocking. our aggressive reporting may shock lee. what shocks me the people had bed with the white house. not just the white house playing hide-and-seek or many in the media cozying up to them. it's also capitol hill. where is the aggressive investigation there? there appears to be more to washington than whether president obama wears mom jeans than the death of four americans at benghazi. that's my off-the-record comments tonight. if you have a story you think i should off-the-record go to gretawire.com. joining us now is the panel. rick, first to you, your colleague secured the press skewered press secretary jay cancery. >> he pointed out t. out. the appearance is going to be about benghazi. to suggest the talking points were about something broad or something different and the strong suggestion that i think you can't come away from the emails without coming to the conclusion that the white house had an incentive, white house aides had an incentive and an interest in pushing an idea that this was not a policy failure, that this was a spontaneous protest, that's the key. >> you know what's so tragic about that? we're not talking about property damage. while they are playing politics, this is not property damage. this is actually four dead americans. >> this email really stands out. the first and most explicit mention of not a reflection of policy or failure. looking back on, this we now know they were turning it down request for security. >> catherine herridge classified cable she reported classified cable dated august 16th which when they were warned about al qaeda in benghazi. that's what catherine herridge reported. >> then we have the question of what happened that night and why. all these forces we have. >> in between though september ath or 6th. president obama is at the convention saying that al qaeda is on the run. now we get to september 11th. >> okay. so it occurs we have the events of that night for which all of our forces in nato and all of our forces in europe nobody could get fast enough to launch a rescue mission for guys that were there. >> i understand that one. but go ahead. >> the explanation. on this channel, being systematically mislead. we understand there is confusion and changing situation. but as we look at that email progress. the explanation gets less and less accurate which is a really bizarre thing. >> actually though they start trying to step all over anyone who is trying to investigate. they excluded fox news to the state department briefing from the media and the cia because we kept pushing it, bob. >> it's not a phony scandal it's dangerous for the administration to do that four americans dead. one brought to justice. the real problem too is getting the information. transparency has been an issue we talked about on the show with the administration. why does it have to take judicial watch to file a lawsuit on this one. the white house knows many media companies can't afford the lawsuit that judicial watch and got this memo from. >> it's terrible to think that all the efforts to short of shut this down. i know capitol hill they could have been a lot more aggressive on this had a select committee. capitol hill is perfectly able to -- speaker boehner select committee and do something. four dead americans. this is not just a couple billions. >> definitely jurisdictional issues. committee chairman wanted to protect their turf. >> how? >> yeah. >> boehner could have fixed that one. speaker boehner could have. one committee select with a lot -- >> -- he could still do it now. >> there has been a lot of theories in republican circles how far to push the politics. >> politics, four dead people that's the problem in the city. >> 100%. the other point that has to be made here why did it take so long to get this email? >> they were hiding it. >> i don't think there is another conclusion to come to. at the same time, they say this wasn't a benghazi talking point but also to produce it. >> that is patently ridiculous jay carney said. >> rally around the president and protect him. folks in the press but clearly the democrats on capitol hill. you would think that as much as they may personally like susan rice or may personally like hillary clinton. they may like the president of the united states, ultimately accountability, what happened -- >> -- four dead people. forget the fancy words accountability. four dead americans. >> ultimately get answers to that and all this other stuff goes by the wayside. old news, get over it waste of time. well, if we are still learning new things it's not a waste of time now is it. >> no it isn't. panel, thank you. this is a fox news alert. gusty winds dangerously fanning the flames of a waging wildfire in southern california. more than 1,000 homes and several hundred schools evacuated in an area east of losr the latest we go live to phil showman. what's going on there? >> well, still no containment on this wildfire. record high temperatures and very dry conditions have led to high fire danger throughout southern california for the the past here in the community of rancho kook among go. cucamonga. a number of schools evacuated. all this happened when school was just beginning this morning. fortunately there was a massive response on the ground and so far no structures have been burned. no injuries that we know of. we're told that one house, a garage of one hours just got slightly singed by some flames but because of those winds, the helicopters and the fixed wing aircraft that usually deploy against these brush fires, these wildfires were not able to it fly. so that made the efforts on the ground all the more urgent and so far the winds seem to have been dying down over the past couple of hours in the immediate sense of danger has passed. still no containment on this fire. reporting live in rancho cucamonga i'm phil schuman, greta? >> before you go, strong winds, that could pick up real fast? >> yeah. that's the problem. the worse of the winds seems to have been behind us. however, the temperatures are still going to be high over the next couple of days approaching 100 degrees so it doesn't take much to set up one of these brush fires we have set it up over and over again. >> phil, thank you. up next, former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld goes "on the record." also fireballs and thick black smoke and now people running for their lives. we will show you what is causing this terrifying scene coming up. ♪ [ banker ] sydney needed some financial guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. so we talked about her options. her valuable assets were staying. and selling her car wouldn't fly. we helped sydney manage her debt and prioritize her goals, so she could really turn up the volume on her dreams today...and tomorrow. so let's see what we can do about that... remodel. motorcycle. 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>> i assume that he has never shown me his bank book. >> he hasn't shown me either. have you ever met him? >> oh sure, my goodness, yes. >> what's he like? >> you get in a meeting with putin, and he is kind of a throw back to the old soviet bureau. he talks for 30 or 40 minutes without stopping. and his guests sit there and listen. it's a were pa. i have seen it back in the soviet days and he -- it's ofb!ofñ kind, a meeting with him do you trust him at all? he breaks his treaties, he is doing things he says he wouldn't do. no. this is a state that he wants to expand. is he difficult for his neighbors. is he difficult in terms it of abiding by his treaties. you know, russia is not a great super power. nuclear weapons, yes. missiles, yes. but, i mean, they have trouble with health. they have trouble with with pollution. they have trouble with a large prison population. their adult males are declining in expected life expectancy. and except for energy, they are not a great super power. >> they have a lot of energy, germany, angela merkel one of her big problems is that her country really likes the energy coming out of russia. >> that's true. it's up to the united states and the west. we have plenty of energy resources. all we have to do is start using them intelligently. and reduce the dependency of western europe on russian gas. >> see, i see it as even a larger issue in that, you know, while all the focus is on ukraine and what he is doing there is that last year when president obama drew the red line with syria and that back fired and he sort of outsourced and ling the chemical weapons in syria to putin, putin then was supposedly going to help us. now we hear that there is chlorine gas used about a month ago against civilians. it sounds like either we are foolish or there has been some double dealing or whatever. i see that sort of inroads in syria and a bigger problem for israel and sort of expanding in the region. that's what i see is even a larger issue. >> it's even bigger thansrki that in my view. the problem is you you know you can -- if you go back through franklin roosevelt and harry truman and hour and kennedy and johnson and president after president. the united states has tended, not perfectly, but tended to be a good friend to our friends and allies and reliable. we have tended to be a caution for our enemies and opponents who are working against our values. we have lost that. this administration is a -- has broken from a long tradition of administrations of both political parties. and the weakness that's being manifested. the fact that our credit has been downgrade, the fact that we can't manage our economic affairs and we are modeling the u.s. economy on europe is sending a signal out to the world that the united states is not going to be there in the a, 10 years ahead. and the behavior of this administration, in my view, is creating a vacuum that's being filled by people who don't have our values. >> you you know, i think it's hard to have much diplomatic muscle with a country like china when we own is so much money, they have got their foot on our neck. >> you don't think so? >> no. i think we have to be realistic about china. china has a terrible disparity of economic circumstance from the coast inland. they still have a lot. >> i hate being in debt with them. i think that weakens us. >> well, that's our behavior. we are acting like juveniles. we are modeling ourself after europe, which is a failed model. i mean, the idea that we can't manage our economic affairs responsibly is inexcusable. >> what do you make of secretary kerry who want do over on apartheid comment. he wants a do over and the president said wrong. >> i feel bad for him. he shouldn't have said something he shouldn't have said and he has retracted it. he shouldn't have said. the problem is it comes on top of an administration's relationship with israel that is -- there have been a series of potholes in the relationship and difficulties. and we have not recognized that that country is a democracy in that part of the world. that it is a country surrounded by countries that don't wish it well. and that we need to have a strong, healthy trusted relationship with them. but, i felt badly for the secretary. >> mr. secretary, it's always nice to see you, sir. >> thank you very much. you have to hear this to believe it charles rangle saying the tea party does not believe the union won the civil war. hear what else he said. and then hear from what allen west has to stay. a safe terrifying explosion caught on camera. latest is coming up. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approvedo treat ed and symptoms obph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, se immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than 4 hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or iyou have any allergic reactions such as rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a 30-tablet free trial. 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>> good. do you interpret what the congressman rangle said is that it is all tea party members or just a few sort of stray members or maybe rogue members? how do you interpret what he said? >> first of all his comments reflect a gentleman stuck on stupid. i was recently out in colorado. i posted a picture on my facebook page of the rockie mountain black tea party. that should totally discredit any of the comments that charlie rangel has made. then you also have a representative benny thompson who was on the new nation of islam radio show and he called supreme court justice clarence thomas an uncle tom. what you have, greta, are these members of the congressional black caucus who have to create this strawman or this deception because they are really not dealing with the interests and the issues that are facing their constituencies. when you think about charlie rangel, he should be speaking out about mayor bill de blasio who is trying to dismantle it the charter school program in new york city. the academy right there in harlem. not talking about the 12% unemployment rate. not talking about the g.d.p. growth which obviously means that there is definitely not economic growth within our inner city and urban environments. this is politics as usual. >> why do they do that? because everybody goes into politics whether you agree with a person. i realize some politics an awful long time and lose that thought, but, i mean, why are they doing that? >> it's it's very simple. because you have a constituency that is trapped on a liberal/progressive plantation of the 21 st century. they want to make sure that they continuee they want to to demonize and castigate constitutional. irrespective of color or race or gender or any of those divisive factors that the liberals like to use because they are afraid of losing control and losing power. >> you know, every single group i have ever seen, both sides of the political spectrum in the middle and even nonpolitical groups, there is always a few rogue people. they always, you know, a few for lack of a better word to not destroy it for everybody else, what i find troubling is sort of when you sort of seize upon the rogue person, the nut, the one who is trying to destroy and try to tarnish an entire group that might have a completely different thought or perspective or goal. that's what bothers me. >> and it should bother us all. i have spoken at countless amount of conservative grass roots events, tea party events and i have never seen a confederate flag there what i believe is that do you have people come and they infiltrate so that they can can create that one single moment that optic that people like a charlie rangel or others on the left can use to say that these people are racist or what you have when that's not the case. all about issues and better opportunities and the promise and restoration of the measure dream. >> and i forgot, that is one other category besize sort of the rogue person, you have those who deliberately come in to infiltrate and create an impression about a whole group, you know, obviously, you know, trying to do some shenanigans to hurt people. anyway, congressman, nice to talk to you. thank you, sir. >> always a pleasure. thank you, greta. >> an attack coming from the right and the left. the target president obama's leadership and our political panel is back next, plus caught on camera, sinkhole swallows cars. stay tuned to find out where the earth just opened up. the ue release smartcontrol technology that helps prevent the urge to smoke all day long. help prevent your cravings with nicoderm cq. that helps prevent the urge to smoke all day long. what'swithout the thinking capitathat makes it real? 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>> there is a question of whether he is tough enough. and certainly i think since the bin laden raid, certainly was a huge victory for this white house, there has been those questions. he hasn't been able to get his way with congress. there is multiple reasons for that has he been effective? and jim i think raises a good point. if you are not effective, there is a reason why he is the low 40s approval ratings both domestic and foreign policy. how does he get his groove back? >> you respect the right and republicans to do it. the "the washington post" editorial board which leans left just skewed him calling obama half measures give putin little to fear slow and excruciating. sanctions fall short. telling mr. putin as well as other potential aggressors little to fear from the united states. they are skewering him. >> there has been a the lo of unrest with the president whether it's nsa on the left. even some of the irs stuff. just a big government stuff on the right doesn't work. but this stooping hurts him with the left. that's why his numbers are there and also, his relationship with democrats in congress cannot good at all. and now he is on his way out, basically. you know, we are going to hear a lame duck especially if they lose control of the senate. >> all right, pal. we have another issue. last week as republican congressman vance mcallister playing kissy faces a a staff caught on his own camera. other side of the aisle, divorce dealings getting pretty narsy. allen grayson now seeking annulment because he says his wife is a big biggest. claiming his wife already had a husband when he married her. aleta grayson of defamation. wrongly accused him of battering her at their home last month. rick? well, well, well. that's "the washington post." >> divorce is an ugly one. congressman grayson is a guy with sharp ends and rubbed a lot of folks from washington the wrong way. this is particularly ugly divorce. there is nothing good about. this. >> well, pushing match a month ago, right? >> yes. >> calling the police. >> little domestic violence episode. this is a strange set of circumstances to find out about a previous marriage after you were already married for i think 2 a years. >> how does he not know about it. >> if you think you are having trouble with your spouse, at least your spouse hasn't dropped this bomb on you, by the way i was married a little bit earlier. allen may grayson is a puppet for the liberals. most repulsive person on capitol hill and this story makes me feel bad for him. till of a hun. >> i don't feel sorry for any of these guys. get elected. this is what they do? >> well, mcallister, too where for a while he thought he could survive. radel also thought that now we have the michael grimm situation and headache for republican leaders. just story after story makes congress look really bad. >> a little self-respect. walk down the hall. he says he walks down the hall everyone snickers and grayson walks down the hall there is the one. like 70 grade. >> leadership approaches this in ways. less patience for standing by your guys thee days. not quite vicious cutting people off think are liabilities. they have gotten better i think in the sense of accountability in saying this is not someone we want to associate ourselves and our caucus. >> stand by grim? >> not entirely. >> i think they should take him and throw him off that. >> the republican campaign committee has indicated they are not going to support him. they are trying to distance themselves to some degree because he can't get off the ballot. >> of course you have got grayson divorce and mcallister kissing the staff. grimm has indictment and presumed innocent. it may be worse but añ%ñd least you know for some reason at least not caught on camera, right? he is not calling the police on his wife, right? at least there is stuff against those guys. >> remember, speaker boehner says congress is indicative of the country there are some dumb people at least he didn't say the media anyway, panel, thank you. and president obama issuing a threat to republicans. senator marco rubio is here to respond next. true business-grade internet comes with secure wifi for your business. it also comes with public wifi for your customers. not so with internet from the phone company. i would email the phone company to inquire as to why they have shortchanged these customers. but that would require wifi. switch to comcast business internet and get two wifi networks included. comcast business built for business. president obama issuing a threat to republicans. >> change is happening, whether republicans in congress like it or not. do you remember a congress doesn't support raising the minimum wage. you have got to let them know they are out of step and that if they keep putting politics ahead of working americans, you will put them out of office. >> republican senator marco rubio joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. >> well, that's not all the president said about republicans. he blasted you for spending all your time repealing the affordable care act. obamacare, and he also says he spending time seeking cuts for the wealthy. what do you say? >> i think he is right about one thing. that is we should be on the side of people that are struggling to make a living. the problem is while his idea my poll well initially, it doesn't actually help people who are trying to get ahead. here is the fundamental fact in the real world. if you own a business that can't really raise prices and you have workers and now you have to pay them more federally mandated you have to find that money somewhere. for some people that means they will lose their job or hours at work. that's just a fact. not me saying it, the congressional budget office has told us that i can't support anything that would actually cost people jobs. especially given this economy. i do believe workers need to make more money. i don't think the way do you that is through the minimum wage. but 10.10 be a hour is not something we should aspire to for people. we should aspire to 200, $30 an hour. the way to do that is to create the changes to our laws make america a more afrackive place continue to vest and innovate. and also helping people to acquire the skills they need for the better paying jobs of a new economy. >> goes a little deeper though. he says you are spending all your time repealing obamacare and that focusing on cuts for the wealthy. he doesn't talk but trying to help out those who are struggling. he talks about you trying to help the wealthy. >> again, this goes back to the same rhetoric of class warfare that they always rely on. the truth is he has been president for six years. the very people he claiming wanting it to help are worse off than they have ever been. record numbers of people on food stamps. record numbers of people dependent on government. those are the facts. so now, desperate to try to create a counter narrative. their argument is that the only way some people can be better off is if we make other people worse off. the good news is that in america we have free enterprise and free enterprise means everyone can be better off without making anyone worse off. that's what has made us different from the rest of the world. i wish we had a president that actually believed that. >> you have a new bill introduce having to do with stepping up the pressure on russia. are you dissatisfied with what the president is doing? >> yeah, i am. here is why. vladimir putin has made a decision. he want to restore russia and what he thinks would be a great power. and the way to do that is to be able to invade and intimidate their neighbors and their immediate abroad. he has calculated that the benefits of doing what he is doing now first with crimea and now in eastern ukraine that the benefits outweigh the costs. we have to change that calculation. and that's what these sanctions are all about. is imposing costs-to-defectors to the russian economy and individuals russian economy including vladimir putin so they can finally determine that the price they're pay something too high. >> all right. if it doesn't go your way, with the increased sanctions but if we stay with what the president has done, what do you expect will happen? >> i think what i expect to happen is what's already happening. russia is using agents in eastern ukraine to destabilize the government there to take over government buildings and entire cities. all in anticipation of what's going to be a fraudulent vote that potentially could ask as well to be separate from ukraine and become part of russia. this is the direction they're headed. same strategy used in crimea. that's what they're employing now because they calculated the costs are not high enough to stop doing it. >> how is that a security issue for us? >> it's actually an economic issue for us. we cannot allow any country in the world to be afraid tone gauge us commercially as ukraine tried to do in engaging the west. they are afraid of a more powerful neighbor. the 21st century we have to be able to sell our products and services to any market in the world without being intimidated by a powerful neighbor. if we allow this to stand undeterred it will set an example not just for russia but for china, for iran, for north carolina -- north korea other countries intimidate neighbors tell them if you closer, it's a direct threat to our economy. >> senator, nice to see you. thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. okay, everyone, here is what is being being hash reasonable doubt out right now. 20 years after rocker bain's death. kurt cobain's scores handwritten note by police. police releasing the note found in cobain's wallet after the suicide. in that note he writes do you kurt cobain take courtney michelle love to be your lawful shredded wife and t. gets worse but can't say it on tv. house majority leader eric cantor getting in on the action. he tweeted today is national honesty day. #benghazi. ouch. everyone wants to buy the l.a. clippers. that story is trending right now. oprah winfrey the next owner of the nba team. oprah in talks with media executive larry ellison to make a bid for the clippers. that is in embattled clippers owner donald sterling puts the team up for sale and not the only one rumored to buy the team. p. diddy tweeting i knicks fan. bunny ranch owner benny hough tweeting is he considering buying the clippers. now it is your turn to hash it out with us. use #greta on all your tweets and posts. and fireballs thick smoke shooting high in the air. train derails right in the middle of a townget the latest is next. also, don't forget. hannity tonight 10 p.m. eastern. stephen smith joins sean to talk about the donald sterling controversy. tonight, 10:00 p.m. on hannity. don't forget. get all your favorites all day, every day. olive garden's signature favorites, just $10 all week long! including everyone's favorite fettuccine alfredo, and our classic lasagna. with sauces made from scratch in our kitchens every morning. all served with unlimited homemade soup or fresh garden salad. and your all-time favorite, warm breadsticks. signature favorites now just $10. all day, every day. at olive garden, we're all family here. discover 70 lunch combinations including our chicken parmigiana sandwich starting at $6.99. 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for across all religious lines, but particularly a president that says he is personally committed as a christian. why do we have anything, anything close to trying to play religious divisiveness and trying to castigate people's basic beliefs. win on the merits, not by playing these kinds of games. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. we're back to benghazi. let's play "hardball." good evening i'm chris matthews in philadelphia. let me start tonight with this -- a newly disclosed e-mail from deputy national security adviser ben rhodes has reignited the benghazi firestorm on the hard right. senator lindsay graham has coined the white house scum bags. darrell issa is comparing president obama with president nixon. but the freakout once again doesn't square with reality. here's what got things going. rhodes refers to a prep call with susan rice ahead of her appearances on those five sunday talk shows the weekend after the tragedy. rhodes calls one of the goals for the interview should be, quote, underscore that these protests are rooted in an internet video and not a broader failure of policy. how is that different from what we now know actually happened? according to the bipartisan senate intelligence committee report from earlier this year, in fact, from january, some intelligence shows the attacks were likely put together in short order. following that day's violent protests in cairo against an inflammatory video. what's more, the first draft of the cia's talking points for susan rice participants an even clearer picture. we believe based on clearly available information that the attacks in benghazi were inspired by the protests at the u.s. embassy in cairo. michael steele and david corn join us. michael, i've been watching this thing atrying to keep my cabinet file in my head filled with facts coming out of the bipartisan intelligence committee report which said yes, this was a copycat operation against the facility in benghazi, spurred or triggered by what's going on around the middle east but especially in cairo. and the issue in cairo was triggered, they believe, by this inflammatory video coming out of california making fun of islam. that seems to be what this memo points to by ben rhodes. saying that, saying in other words what we now believe to have been the case. what's the problem, what's the smoking gun. >> there's a lot that needs to be answered for benghazi. i think that the initial handling of this by the party, overpoliticizing it, in fact, diminishing in i really real invetigatory earth ffort to fin what the facts are. oh, we still want to bring whoever did this to justice is almost ludicrous at this point. you have something at this e-mail come and be revealed foia, again, contextualizes concerns that a lot of people, not just republicans had about the handling of benghazi and what led up to some of the decision make on the ground. i think it's a legitimate tool and point of interest to discuss. >> what this new memo shows, normally say, calling people scum bags, is it any different in substance than what we got in the bipartisan support on the senate intelligence committee way back in january? >> short answer, no. here are all the new documents that just came out. i encourage the smoking gun memo -- >> i read it. >> there's nothing in that memo that changes anything that we know. and it's quite clear that the one line they pull out of it, that ben rhodes is clear ly cle referring to all it in cairo and yem yemen. that's what he's talking about, the big picture. i still think there are questions unanswered about benghazi and about, what aur capables were beforehand and the state department review board looked into this and said there are reasons why more should have been done before the fact. and, you know, all the great things that should be looked at so that we never lose another public servant like ambassador christopher stevens and the three other americans who perished with him. but for the republicans again and again today to get out there and make this stuff up is really sacrilegious to the memory of christopher stevens. >> with all due respect, that's just a load of crap. >> a load of crap? >> we're not making anything up.. >> yes, you are! >> no, we're not. we're looking at the same stuff you're looking at. it may be a matter of interpretation or opinion, but the white house in handling this thing from the very beginning has botched it. and this memo, this particular paragraph that he started the segment off with, we've got to put this story, this is just about the video, and susan, just make sure you tell everybody that we're not failing on our policy, that we're doing this the right way, or it could be as nice and easy packaged at david put it. >> there's no doubt, gentlemen, that the white house has botched this up. why didn't they put out this memo with all the earlier stuff they put out? why do they let a rolling disclosure occur? which is what i said for years in politics. the one way to lose your credibility is have information leak out point and point. this was a foia thing, but it makes the white house once again play defense. this past january, some intelligence suggested the attacks were put together in short order. relatively spontaneous, following that day's violent protest in cairo against an inflammatory video. this is just what susan rice said from cairo. in that case probably caused by the anger over the video. we don't know what we don't know over benghazi. in the light that's been shown, you just admitted that this rolling effect. >> calling the white house scum bags, theying they lies. >> look, look. let me finish my point. loon look, i'm not into the name calling crazy. we don't need to name call here. >> but they're name calling. they're saying it's a cover-up. >> michael, he's what some of yours are saying opinion the rhodes e-mail has set up a freakout. as i mentioned lindsey graham coined a phrase you don't n normally hear from a senator. >> some guy said on the left the only reason i cared about this was because i've got six tea party opponents. well, if that's true, i'm the biggest scum bag in america. the scumbags are the people in the white house who lied about this. >> and republican congressman darrell issa held another round of oversight hearings on this where he compared president obama to richard nixon. here's congressman issa. >> the american people have learned you can not believe what the white house says, what the spokesperson say and what the president says. the facts are coming out that, in fact, this administration has knowingly withheld documents pursuant to congressional subpoenas in violation of any reasonable transparency or historic precedent, at least since richard millhouse nixon. >> the language couldn't be more horrendous, given the fact that there's hardly a nuance of difference between what we learned now and what we learned a long time ago about the tragedy in benghazi. by the way, will we please remember that ambassador chris stevens was a grown-up, a sincere professional of sound mind. he decided to go out to that risky facility that night. he made that decision, which ambassadors have to make. it turned out to be a horrific situation me walked into. but the idea that someone should have been covering for him. but that someone else should have the army there defenning him, i think it's a little ridiculous. >> i think it's the responsibility of the president of the united states in this administration to protect those ambassadors who go go into harm's way willingly. >> how would president obama know that chris stevens was going out to a facility alongside a cia facility in the middle of the night some weekend. how would he know that? >> how would he know what? i didn't hear the question. >> how would the president even know he was going on that trip out there to benghazi. >> highway would the president know that specific event? we do have e-mails and correspondent between the ambassador and the state department. if the president doesn't know it, at least his secretary of state and her department should know who is on the ground and what is required to protect the united states ambassador in a place like benghazi. this isn't rocket science and you know if the shoe were on the other foot, you would be screaming holy hel about how a bush administration failed to protect one of its ambassadors. >> you're acting as if there's been no investigations. there have been several, including some led by republicans in the house other than darrell issa. a lot of this stuff has been looked at. >> did we just not get an e-mail released in the last 24 hours or week that wasn't a part of the initial discussion that we're all talking about. how do we know what's going to be released tomorrow or next week? >> you can keep saying we don't know what's really out there -- >> i guess i'm trying to look at this reasonably. i understand the politics of this completely on both sides. but this argument, it seems to me, trying to apply this to what happens in any war zone -- this was a war zone. this country was not being governed at the time. you go into afghanistan, syria today, iraq, there are places in the world where it's dangerous to go to. people get killed all the time in surprise ambushes. it happens all the time. roadside bombings. we live in a world of unpredictability and horror. and the idea that one of these incidents would be blown up as the most important issue of the upcoming elections for kingdom come to me is out of proportion. thank you, michael steele. i wish i got to meet chris stevens. everybody thought he was a great guy. coming up, bill clinton was doing more yesterday than just burnishing his own image with his speech about income inequ inequali inequality. he was also protecting hillary's left. plus the big muddle that's become the republican race for the white house. three guys, jeb bush, rand paul and mike huckabee are all bunched together, each representing different action factions of the party. and the botched execution is not about sympathizing with convicted murders, i think it's more about the rare cases that an innocent person is on death row. and finally, let me finish with the praising new struggle between the clintons and the democratic left over the 2016 primary fight. this is "hardball" a place for politics. some financial guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. so we talked about her options. her valuable assets were staying. and selling her car wouldn't fly. we helped sydney manage her debt and prioritize her goals, so she could really turn up the volume on her dreams today...and tomorrow. so let's see what we can do about that... remodel. motorcycle. 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even though they have many friends and sup the poerts in those ranks? and at what point will they face the need to say the populists have gone too far. ryan grimm and anna palmer, ryan let's get to the picture here. bill clinton coming out of the georgetown with former secretary of state hillary clinton, a's wife, and former first lady, sitting in the first row. this seems a brazen statement of preventive war that he's ready to go to war with anybody that he says he wasn't, if you will, populist enough as president. >> right. i think that speech actually had more to do with bill clinton that hillary clinton. bitter isn't necessarily the right word. but he feels he's not getting enough credit for what he did on inequality in the 1990s. the idea that nobody was talking about this in the early to late 90s is crazy. i ran on a populist theme. i was a populist president, you know, an i did x, y and z in order to reduce income inequality. and he wants that credit. i think that has a lot more to do with why he gave the speech than actually anything related to 2016. >> but isn't this really about tenor and attitude that elizabeth warren is seen as kind of a trust buster, an old progressive who is willing to go in and make enemies. and really be known as someone wall street doesn't like. i'm your nemesis, your worst nightmare. his friends, all the people i know in wall street are friends of the clintons. social friends, financial friends. they help them in their campaigns. isn't there a wall they will not cross or jump over. they're not willing to say i'm standing outside of wall street calling for its down fall? >> they're not going to go as far as, you know, elizabeth warren does, but there's always been, you know, some of that kind of southern populism in clinton. and he wants to remember that part of his campaign. >> i can just see this flipping in the next two weeks and back again. former senator clinton who's running probably, she wants to be seen as somebody who can get alone with business and inspiring them to start spending the $2 trillion they're sitting on and not be seen as the enemy. how can they be populist and seen as helpful partners of big business and big money? >> i think that they understand or they want wall street to be in on the joke, right? the clintons are saying, listen, we have a history. we can be populist. when i was, you know, when bill clinton was in office, he did things for the left, but payment, i think when you look at all of the friends on wall street, they understand exactly who the clintons are, exactly how they would be business friendly to them. and the fact that, you know, just as ryan said, if there sunt a jeb bush in there, certainly wall street is very comfortable with hillary clinton on the ticket and in the white house. >> so if they're throwing spears and arrows on wall street, those who are their friends will discount it and say we know this is part of the political business? >> absolutely. they see her nowhere near as bad for them as president obama has been. they also aren't going on the attack in terms of any kind of aggressive nature. they're really only trying to say listen, we do have this left message and we can communicate with them, but at the same time, wall street is known that they're friends and they know they're going to be friends with them flougt the campaign. . >> one way to watch them is see how close they get to deblasio in new york who is not making any friends on wall street. let's take a look at yesterday's speech. president clinton want back to his alma mater. his slogan was putting people first. he went back to georgetown university yesterday and went to college and defended his economic policy ens white house years. in fact, some people believe, as you said, to bolster his own legacy. but also to neutralize criticism from the hard left ahead of hillary's expected presidential campaign. >> you're free to decide to think i made a mistake, but all the people that say, you know, what was bill clinton doing getting in bed with wall street and lowering the capital gains tax, he was getting 6 million poor children health insurance coverage. oh, clinton was lucky. he caught the tech boom. clinton was lucky, he came out of the recession. and all of the so-called prosperity in the 1980s, only 77,000 of our fellow americans move from poverty into the middle class. in the '90s, 100 times as many. 7.7 million people did. that was policy. >> well, that was a lot of number there. almost 8 million people did move in to the middle class from poverty. he's pushing back from complaints from progressives like warren that the clintons is too close to business. "the new york times" writes, quote, his language as president was more focused on lifting the middle class than castigating the wealthy. that should not be confused with a lack of concern for the poor. mr. clinton says now. let me go back on this. it seems to me that this is the fight. i don't know what other argument you make against willy clinton except that she's been there before, she is the establishment the same way john kerry was and al gore and mike dukakis was. they are the standard bearers of the center. being a centrist democrat is somehow bad. >> i think what you've really seen since bill clinton was in the white house, both parties, republican and democrat have moved to their wing. while bill clinton might have been a populist in '992, what those policies are for now for a lot of the far left, the moveon.orgs of the world aren't far enough left. they're going to try to push the clintons as far left as they can because those are the policies they're going to be to be enacted. you ha . >> they want to see people heading towards the center, at least in terms of bottom line. maybe not in attitude, but getting things done. they don't want a bunch of people shooting arrows at wall street. at least according to our poll. >> maybe when you're looking at the general, but in terms of looking at the base, people who are going to come out and vote, you're going to be talking about a lot of the people that do want to move the party to the left and have had that kind of obama kind of populist movement-moving messages. that's what they're going to want to hear. >> can you make the same kind of fight against the clintons that obama effectively made on the issue of the war in iraq where hillary clinton voted for the war -- didn't vote for the war, but voted to authorize it. and that's the issue they beat her on, i believe. can they find the same sharp division on issues involving economics that you can find in a war in. >> no, and actually people 234 clinton's circle are bringing that moment up. there is no stink bomb like the iraq vote when it comes to economic policy. there's certainly a sense that the clintons are closer to wall street certainly than somebody like elizabeth warren and closer than i i think, a lot of the democratic base would like people to be, especially after the 2008 financial crisis. i think before the crisis, wall street was looked at as kind of an enlightened element of capitalism and if we can merge kind of progressive values with the free market then that's a great way to build a majority, but after the crisis, i think that changed. but there is no -- you're exactly right. tlp is no single war vote. >> thank you. up next, our own chuck todd goes hollywood. this is "hardball." ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. 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>> yes. i think -- i've been told definitively that he is running. i haven't been told that by him. so he may call me right after the show and say who do you think you are? but i got this from very reliable people. he is definitely running. that changes a lot of the plans for a lot of people. marco rubio will not run. people in the know say he definitely will not run and that may as well effect other people's decision making. it changes the dynamics a little bit. >> i guess that's a great way to put it. you've got the secular libertari libertarians, they don't talk about god much. the establishment types who sort of, you know, they're establishment types. they don't talk about religion at all. and then you've got to huckabee people out there waiting. who's -- what's the most natural allian alliance. is it the establishment types going into bed saying we're both hawks because you can't really have rand paul as the hawks. what's the natural alliance that ends up being the winning ticket down at south carolina. i give that back to kathleen because she knows that pretty well, too. what goes into south carolina and beats the other faction now 2-1. >> i think what we've seen in the past is that the tea party libertarians and the evangelical republicans tend to be closely aligned in most ways with the exception perhaps of the separation of church and state issues. however, they've all got to work together ultimately. and republicans tend to have remarkable talents for healing and forming their coalitions after they get their initial fightings done. so those are your most natural alliances. >> let me ask you about that in south carolina. what happens on the hawkish front, the christian conservatives are very pro on foreign policies. they'll just join up with whoever is the gun toting hawkish person from the establishment. can you see jeb bush joining up with the religious right? >> jeb is actually far more conservative than george w. bush was. anticipate he is pro life and he is, you know, he's the one who talks with compassion about immigration, for example. that doesn't really help him much in south carolina and some of the other southern states, but he, you know, he has an ability to, i think reach people in ways that some of these others may not. he may surprise you. eechb thou even though he may not be quite as well known as some of the other likely candidates in certain ways, but he has the ability to speak, he's very conversational. if you've heard him speak, you know this. i think he can appeal to a broad cross section of people, even in south carolina. i don't think you have to necessarily tote a gun, but you do have to be respectful of people and recognize that it's not -- you know, that the southerners and christians are not people to be sidelines. i would add to that, of course they're going to prefer someone like mike huckabee, but he's not running for president. >> how much do they want to beat hillary clinton? 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why is it appropriately morally and civilly to have that option in the courts? >> because some people deserve to die and thus we have an obligation to execute them. i'm in full accord with president obama's position here. although it slightly overstates it to say the evidence doesn't show the death penalty deters. does it deter more than life without parole. both deter. but the issue to answer your question again directly is there are some people who commit such heinous crimes with such cruelty and callousness that they simply deserve to die, that if we are committed to letting the punishment fit the crime that is the only punishment that we have that does fit some of those crimes. >> yeah, let me go to diane on that. your reaction to that. >> well, professor bleker has sort of stated the classic sort of academic answer. yes, we should have a death penalty. but the question that really is raised today particularly after the execution in oklahoma is can we or should we have this death penalty? what happened in oklahoma was a graphic example of why we should not have the death penalty. we can't get it right. you know, we can't find a way to kill people in a way that doesn't cause horrific kinds of consequences that we saw, as you pointed out, we can't find a way of making sure we're getting the right people. and we simply can't find a way of having a death penalty that works, that is consistent with the other values of fairness and equality under the law. so it's one thing to support the death penalty in the abstract and say there might be some people for whom it would be appropriate. but the problem we're addressing right now here today is that theth da penalty right now that we have doesn't work and it's not sustainable and can't continue. >> well, let me ask you this. if it were such a thing, if you had the guillotine, for example, which is i would say about 100% effective by definition, would you be for that? >> no. and there's a reason why we don't have the guillotine. >> why not? >> because the issue -- >> why not? >> -- is whether a country -- >> no, i'm just asking you a question. if you just said effectiveness and humaneness, why not for something that's instant and it's over with? >> well, first of all, we're not just focusing on what happens at the end. whether you can kill somebody efficiently. it's the entire process from beginning to end. and as you pointed out at the beginning, we're not even sure that we're getting the right people. there are 144 people -- >> you're changing the subject. i thought you had a particular point you were making. you said it was about humanity in the way we execute people. and i'm just asking you if we found a way to do it, and i think throughout history there have been ways, not that i necessarily support them, but if the issue is efficiency and effectiveness of the punishment, well, then we'll find a way. most of the time these things do work. isn't that the case? >> no, because we -- >> lethal injection generally works. >> chris. chris, we wouldn't be in this constant search for new methods. at one point the electric chair was supposed to be the new and improved way of executing people. and then lethal injection. what we're seeing over and over again is there's no good way to do it. and again, that's only -- >> that's not what we're saying. >> the very beginning of the process. >> you raised a number of questions. i think the other point you made, diann, which you alluded to, is the long appellate process. what about, robert blecker, about the fact it takes so long to get all at peals, the habeas corp.us and all the other appeals you're allowed under our court system, that you're really going after a person, executing them in this case 15 years after the crime. >> it's all part of the deeper irony that the very people who are decrying it are the people who are causing it. i mean, for diann to dismiss my position as academic is absurd. i've spent thousands of hours on death rows and inside maximum security prisons interviewing these convicted killers and the people who guard them. it's not at all academic. and the problem with the method, as you point out, is not that it doesn't work. in my view the problem with the method is not that it possibly causes pain but that it certainly causes confusion because what it does is obscure what we're doing. we are punishing. and yet what we've done is we've medicalized it. i witnessed an execution. he was wheeled in ease standardly would be in a gurney wrapped in white sheets with an i.v. coming out of his arm, and it was bizarrely similar to a hospice, where my father-in-law was dying from an incurable cancer. how we punish those whom we detest should in no way resemble how we sadly sometimes have to kill those whom we love. we should acknowledge what we're doing, which is we are punishing. you point out the guillotine. that's a possibility. the firing squad is another. it's not that it's unworkable. it's that it's conflating. it's that it's bureaucratized what we're doing, what we're punishing -- >> if i could speak to -- >> i guess, diann to go back to your point i want to hear you out here. cruel and unusual. hanging wasn't considered cruel and unusual at the time of our constitution. certainly firing squads have been part of our military history forever, ever since we've had rifles. >> we've abandoned those methods. >> what is the definition, and why does it keep changing? >> we've abandoned those methods for good reason. the public cannot support -- >> why? >> the public doesn't want to see people hanged and guillotined. let's be real. if those things were -- >> that's not true. >> if those things were working we'd still be doing them. but let's speak to the courts for just a minute. >> what do you mean by working? what do you mean by working? that's the key question here. what do you mean by working in you say it doesn't work. >> that we get the right people. we've got 144 people who were exonerated. we're not even getting the right people. >> that doesn't mean they're innocent, as you well know. and that count is controversial -- >> let me finish my point about the courts. >> this is very interesting. it's an american debate and it's ongoing. thank you, diann ross-tierney and thank you, robert blecker. i heard both sides. we'll be back after this. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. 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"all in with chris hayes" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. and happy may day. on this may day two big stories about the minimum wage in america. in seattle a victory. political and business leaders today announce they have reached a deal to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. the highest in the united states to be phased in over the next few years. meanwhile, back in washington, d.c. a vote on a national minimum wage hike to $10.10 though garnering a majority vote of 54-42 fell short of overcoming a republican filibuster. so what explains the difference

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(husband) that's good to know. . yesterday the yesterday the house held lois learner in contempt, and today, the committee. >> why suddenly today the irsk+ says you can have all the e-mails of lois learner? >> it shouldn't have taken this long, it's been almost a year, the president promised quick action, it's taken a long time, the irs is delayed but maybe ratcheting up the pressure with response. >> that's really disgracefulgs@ that you have to ratchet up, spend time and their rights to due process and that's actually criminal in nature and so this is very serious. and and we want to find how far this goes and we're going to just follow these]@nñ e-mails wherev they lead us. >> are you willing to release those e-mails, minus of course redacting like social security numbers of citizens, names of citizens, but to[z=r give us ah transparency as you can so the american people canç.&v likewie who's going on? >> i would very much like to do we can we can do that in conjunction with a final report. that's why it's so important to get all this information, because when we issue a final report, that will go to the full can make this information public. >> there's been a referral i think by your committee to the think by your committee to the doj ford about why whie think she shoulde targeted for criminal prosecution by not following the procedures of the irs, in delaying them, she actually violated their constitutional rights. we also believe there was an imepermissible release of donor information, donors, c503-b. that is also a violation of statute, that was really very important. and the third and the third is she used ar$g e name or a private e-mail account and put irs business9 account, much like the epa administrator did. and that could have potentially compromised the confidentiality of taxpayer79ñ information. we have\ documented all that ina report that's now public. it's been sent to justice. i hope they look at it with thoroughness, it's obviously prosecute or not. but we want to make sure that they take this seriously and that's why i thinkdsqkñ it's have that special counsel. and because we have done a lot of this work, we can share this work with the special counsel when they get appointed. >> thank you for joining us and i regret it took so much ton the irs to do whatfrçxl$a÷ it s have been. but it's another statement about how thingsym? happen here. >> you and me both, there is no reason for them slow walking this. >> you're not kidding. thank you. sir. and:÷!ç there is more irs n tonight, house republicans exposing this, the irs has audited 10% of tea party]iu don. now the averageé@ of americans getting audited is only 1%. so teaérparty donors get audite by the irs teng joining usñdhaenny beth martin president of the new party patriots. how do you like those numbers? >> they're astounding and i'm nott nç surprisedaíjdj them, be over the past year i have talked tv# donors to our group, they'r telling me they have been personally j we're finding that it's not just an deecdotes that i'm hearing f around the country. >> it's a ghastly number, if you're a tea party áuh)mdonor, have a ten times more of a chance to bed÷ audited >>donated over 5 $,000yó c-4. it's it's y"!!ted publicly, but the information. with the targeting they were doing, they were asking for donor information, they were asking for legal dçnames, the were asking for who was speaking at your group. and all of those groups of people are telling me throughout these different groups, they targeted. >> >> do you have a message for th% congress, if you're trying to get to the bottom of this, if you really care about free speech, do the right thing. >> mary beth, nice to talk to >> thank you. >> thank you. okay, everyone, here's what's being hashed out right.qt this moment, right now. the first pick of the nflf"f dr happens tonight. my stop story for the íáñ green packers, ]z and trending wm right now, celebrities bringing awareness to that horrific kidnapping of 2 hung girls in nigeria. this week going viral today, ellen degeneres tweets it can't happen soon enough with a photo of herself. keep up the pressureívy hugh#b g #bringbackourgirls. now it's your turn to hash it now it's your turn n #greta for all your tweets and posts. you heard the forifying (ñ the democrats a sequester would cost thousands of jobs. up next, new evidence they were dead wrong.m8÷ç also taking talking turns at table flipping. it wasn't here on the record. stay tuned to see how this one turned out. honestly, the off-season isn't really off for me. i've got a lot to do. that's why i got my surface. it's great for watching game film and drawing up plays. it's got onenote, so i can stay on top of my to-do list, which has been absolutely absurd since the big game. with skype, it's just really easy to stay in touch with the kids i work with. alright, russell you are good to go! alright, fellas. alright, russ. back to work! can you start tomorrow? 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>> yeah and i think the administration made some major going to fall, then they even had to backtrack before it was imp -q%0pmented. one job, when the government is that big. you got to feel sorry for this one z÷pue1ñ he thought he had company. >> they found the one guy who was not close enough for government work. >> meanwhile in the4 gpa, they'e looking at porn. but anyway. >> you can make a very, very long list of the warnings the administration put out. childhood vaccinations were going to have to stop. if you look at this gao report, none of that stuff happened. they were able to move money around. one of the things republicans were saying during that fight, remember, was, look, we know you agencies waste some money in this area, and you need it more over here, you should just move it around, that sort of thing. >> exactly. >> we have not spent money on all this other stuff, and i'm sure live at these agencies, there has been belt tightening, y>ñ used less. at some point it has affected their lives. but whenever there's enough uxrdexlike, how can you stay afloat until next year.yke . >> what bothers me, though,dj;s f.$áujtj were so grand that q around, they were so off the yhéumark. it sort of like undermines any kind of confidence i can have in any numbers, in any sort of predicaments or handle on our budget. >> if you like your economic projection from the sequester, you can keep that economic projection. >> when you're trying to pass a bill, you come up with promises, when you're trying to prevent something like sequestration happening, you come up with rhetoric. >> you zd4o it's a time that they made those huge numbers, i don't know if it's so be so wrong or incompetent or to be deceitful, which is it? >> they did believe it was going to lead to a lot more jobs lost than one. at the same time those numbers when you replay them, they're striking. >> so you think they were incompetent and not deceitful? >> yes. >> the jobs they were talking about losing were not all federal jobs. harry reid was not saying they were going to lose÷8fs a millid a half government workers. at the same time this last year, the administration has been bragging about its job creation it has created, which it said wouldn't happen if they did sequestration. >> the math always works very well when you want it?9zz to ory bad when you don't want it to. is this incompetence or are they lying? >> america is sitting down here having dinner watching this show, they must be horrified. i mean i'm horrified sitting here and i live in this city. >> the culture of cutting government has changed dramatically. wait a minute, we have really cut down the deficit, a lot of that was because of see with quest tra sequestration. >> a lot of the republicans u(u sequestration either.uestration word is that the benghazi committee will have seven republicans and five democrats. democrats are now complaining, they want seven seats too. the republicans say the majority of the party should have the majority of the seats period. the republicans don't need those extra seats. oneza=÷ extra seat is plenty, ts enough. speaker=[[u boehner decides the of the committee. and pointed to the fact when nancy pelosi was leader, she created a panel with three extra democrats, not just the two extra. that's true, she did. aye. but this show what is's wrong with washington. pointing that a political opponent once did the same thing or maybe word. let's stop that political game. the majority party should have one more seat, only one more. i have advice for the white house. white house listen up, stop playing hide the ball, issue all of the documents and answer all the questions or this will get really ugly. that's my off is record comment tonight. a homeowner in his garage late at éenrnight, guns down a foreign exchange student. murder or defense of home, that's next. . outrage on two continents as a 17-year-old german exchange student shot dead by a montana homeowner. police say the student was garage shopping, that's when teenagers sneak things in garages like beers. but the homeowner fired a shotgun into his dark garage four times. the homeowner is charged with deliberate homicide and it's stirring up criticism ofí&÷tssl montana's law allowing homes. this one is/dxiawful. >> yeah, it really is. it's a tragedy. but in just about every state in the united states, there's something called a castle doctrine. that ?f is that a man has a rig a woman, to protect their home and under the circumstances here inl a law that if you tried tohj"ñ r the house violently, you could use justifiable force. but under the circumstances here, the question was, was this reasonable shooting this 17-year-old student who was messing around, shall we say, in his garage? greta, is because it appears as though it was a setup.$"ñ the homeowners that put in videos -- >> they had suspected there was going to be a garage burglary. >> right. they put in motion monitors and they also had taken one of the -- the woman's purse and that made it unattractive for someone to go in. and this is what is key to the prosecution. there was supposedly a witness at a salon whom0d@ one of the homeowner had informed that he had stayed up in that graduating and, i quote/unquote to shoot a kid. to protect someone who was was lying in wait and planning. if you set it up and wait for this to happen and, you know, the problem here. this is not a, i'm scared and protecting my home. @r(t&háhp &hc% prosecution's angle. the defense angle is going to be that this man had had two é@esju$(u)glaries in thezx wife and his child. >> ten-month-old child. >> a 10-month-oldá child. and he had reasonable fear that this kid, he didn't know if there was a child in there, by the way. he just knew that someone in his garage was going to get into the home. the big question is, how is that garage situated to how you would actually get00dg into the home did the homeowner know that? 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