i just want to put that last screen back up. i mean, it s remarkable. if you got if you have j&j and then you decide to get another j&j as a booster. it s it benefits it s four-times improvement. but if you get the moderna, it s 76 times improvement and pfizer 35. i mean, that s incredible. right. and to be fair, antibody response is not the only measure of immune protection. you also have b cells and t cells that are involved in the immune response and the studies have not looked at effectiveness. as in they are not looking they are looking at how much do your antibodies increase? but not how well protected you are against covid-19 so it s not like the pfizer or moderna vaccines are many, many more times effective but you do get this very strong antibody response because antibody response is a correlate of immunity. i think it does it should give people a lot of pause at least to consider getting a second dose for people who got the johnson & johnson initial vaccine. dr.
76 times improvement and pfizer 35. i mean, that s incredible. right. and to be fair, antibody response is not the only measure of immune protection. you also have b cells and t cells that are involved in the immune response and the studies have not looked at effectiveness. as in they are not looking they are looking at how much do your antibodies increase? but not how well protected you are against covid-19 so it s not like the pfizer or moderna vaccines are many, many more times effective but you do get this very strong antibody response because antibody response is a correlate of immunity. i think it does it should give people a lot of pause at least to consider getting a second dose for people who got the johnson & johnson initial vaccine. dr. leana wen, appreciate it. thank you. still ahead, new cnn polling revealing how americans feel about the job president biden is doing and what that could mean for some key governor races coming down the pike as well as some midterm
certain level in the bloodstream. that is not the case with vaccines. vaccines stimulate the immune system that then produces antibodies and b cells and t cells. that s the reason why if when you go get your flu vaccine, you don t get asked your weight. you don t get double if you re twice as heavy as somebody else. i think people that have kids that are 11 years old should not be wait willing until their kids turn 12 to etget the vaccine. covid-19 cases are up 240% since july in this kids. once kids under 11 are he will jubl for the vaccine, how big a difference do you think it will make especially with kids back in school now? this is a very important question. while kids are less likely to get infected and get ill, they can. so i think it will certainly make a difference in terms of reducing the likelihood of not just deaths, we always talk about things in terms of life and death. but reducing illness as well.
powerful than vaccine imcommunicate. immunity. why that should i listen to dr. joe who never went to medical school. talk to your doctor. according to the develop of the pfizer and vaccines, robert malone came up with the technology. his quote was immune response in terms of t-and b-cells is more long lasting than the response from the spike vaccines. if you had covid you have natural immunity. it s time for biden to stop scolding us and lecturing us.
protection. i don t think the question is if we re going to get a booster shot. the question is going to be when. so, to be frank, i m actually excited that the scientists can sit down, look at all these studies, and make a decision as to when majority america will need that third shot. so as we wait for that, you just mentioned t cells. there is a study from swedish researchers that came out yesterday, and half of the people that they looked at had preexisting immunity to the coronavirus, but they had never contracted it. this had to do, as i understand it, with their t cells. my question on that is any sense of how many people may have that preexisting immunity, and how effective is that versus being fully vaccinated? yeah, so i think that is also going to be a really big question that scientists need to look at. i ve been excited about this whole t cells and b cells, you know, six, seven months ago, even before the vaccine rollout. and the reason for that is, like you just menti