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Reform if you dont get something done in health care. >> right. i think the key and, again, democratic governors, republican governors, we all know we got to get our arm -- our arms around, you know, the costs. we have got to, you know, medical inflation, health care inflation is eating everyone up. businesses, citizens, state government, we know we got to control that. we dont want to roll back coverage and leave millions of people uncovered. there is a way to do this. youre right. if we dont g...

Lead with? is it russia or health care? >> i think were spending way too much time worrying about russia and i think we should stay on the policy issues. my big concern with health care is why are we rushing this through? ill the first person, many democratic governors would agree, we need improve and change parts of the affordable care act. to roll back coverage so many people. to do the, put so many people at risk. specially penalties that will be placed on people 50 to 65 years old. those kin...

On the side. i agree with that. there is a lack of resources. there isnt enough money for the program. its like having a car but no gasoli gasoline. it doesnt go very far. >> why have democrats not been part of the process? >> because the republicans have been very focused trying to put together a bill, ram it through, get it through without a lot of discussion, and they knew it would be difficult, right, to give $230 billion of tax cuts to the richest americans. there are a lot of republican se...

To make some changes and control costs in health care, we just dont want to roll back coverage on millions of people. >> think about what he said about the coverage for maternity leave. each state could design a plan where we could reach agreement on there are certain people that shouldnt have to buy that, and theres others that should. jake, the most important thing in reaching agreement on a big, big thing is to just get some basic principles in place. then when the principles are in place and...

Good idea in my life that the moment i started talking about it with staff or people around me it didnt get suddenly better. and to think that a small number of one party are going to come up with the right solutions is kind of crazy. governor kasich was talking to me a couple weeks ago, and we kind of joked about if you went through the whole list of issues, theres probably only about 5% that we really disagree on. we could find compromise on almost everything. and i think not only should the r...

Each one of those can lead not only in cost savings but allow us to not have to roll back coverage on who knows how many thousands or hundreds of thousands or millions of people. >> governor kasich, the fact that the senate bill is being crafted in secret by a small group of republican senators, its unclear at this point what exactly is in it. as a republican, is that lack of transparency acceptable to you? >> well, what, you think im going to say yes, anderson? of course its not. theyve got to ...

Week. how much would this health care bill benefit from actual cooperation? how much would that change the equation here? >> you know, ive never had a good idea in my life that the moment i started talking about it with staff or people around me it didnt get suddenly better. and to think that a small number of one party are going to come up with the right solutions is kind of crazy. you know, governor kasich was talking to me a couple weeks ago and we kind of joked about if you went through the ...

That again and again and again. and you know, governors are aware, were aware of the rubber meets the road and were the ones that have to implement this stuff. i think republicans and democratic governors working together, well be able to come up with a better a approach to this isnt going to roll back coverage on so many people. >> thank you so much. always great to see you. >> nice to see you. >> let me braing back my panel. i want to play what nancy pelosi had to say. the most important thing...

With red tape and things like that, but that has nothing to do with the affordable care act or obamacare. the physicians i represent internal medicine doctors, the largest specialty in the united states are strongly committed to the idea that their patients should have access to affordable health care. what we know is that the bill that will be going to the house on thursday would roll back coverage for millions of people and get particularly the most vulnerable and that really sticks in our cra...

Getting worse and worse by the day and yet you watch the fake media, the fake news and they try and build it up. its a disaster, fellas. its a disaster. >> your reaction to that, robert? >> physicians have frustrations with red tape and things like that, but that has nothing to do with the affordable care act or obamacare. the physicians i represent internal medicine doctors, the largest specialty in the united states are strongly committed to the idea that their patients should have access to a...