a former democratic campaign manager. both are cohosts of the five . how big a deal is this sphwhob. i ve known bail daley for a long time, he was chairman of the mondale campaign that i managed and he s not the kind of guy that gets pushed out. if this was going to be shakeup he d be gone. he wouldn t stay around for the sake of without being dramatic, for the sake of being in this campaign work and i really think this is what it s about, the campaign people have gotten more in mode, pluf came into the white house, his view is directed at direction, daley is policy. i think this is a big part of this. martha: put rouse is taking over those responsibilities, he was brought in as an interim person after rahm emanuel left and daley took over for pete rouse and i
deal where he did what he thought was right for the country at political cost. and right now, as chuck says, progressives are going to be very upset and are about bail daley. but that s like republicans being upset about james baker. these are people who make big things work. where do they go? joe, i want to make the point, i think this does boil down to something pragmatic and simple which is i m sure there s a metric inside the white house about where the president stands for re-election, vis-a-vis the unemployment rate. how high it is and where he can still be re-elected. it s all about moving the needle on the economy, getting more confidence in business to start hiring again. it s affecting policy, communication. it s greater outreach to the midwest. you look at all of those areas, this is a guy who can help the president enormously in those departments. this morning, nicole lapin suggested that the real unemployment number is close to