"newsroom" continues now with ashleigh banfield. hi, everybody. nice to have you with me. i'm ashleigh banfield. they have met, they have talked, and they have prayed a lot. and tomorrow they are going to vote, or at least they are going to meet for the purpose of voting, which means tomorrow, theoretically, the 115-cardinal electors of the roman catholic church could give the world a brand new pope. could it be peter turkson of gha ghana? that would be the first african pope in more than 1,500 years. or perhaps luis tagle of the philippines, a rising star in the church, but seen by some people as perhaps too young to be pope at just 55 years old. maybe sean o'malley of the united states, boston, to be exact. he is one of two supposedly credible candidates for the first american pope ever. new york's timothy dolan is the other. in fact, the united states has 11 voting cardinals of those 115, which makes us the second biggest block of voters behind italy. and speaking of italy, the cardinals might look no farther than milan and angelo scola. he has made outreach to islam one of his specialties. this much we know, every cardinal who casts a ballot is a candidate. and only they know who is or who is not on a short list, if, in fact, there is even a short list, because that is still a big question. my colleague chris cuomo is one of just, i don't know, a small collection of 6,000 credentialed journalists who have gathered in the world's smallest country for this very, very big election. and we're happy to be joined by father edward beck, cnn contributor, author, television host. chris, let me begin with you. what did the cardinals do today to prepare for the big day tomorrow? >> reporter: they had their final general congregation meeting today. it's instructive because of what they covered today. they talked about vatican finance again. this is the second time they covered the issue, we're told. that's relevant because it gives us a window of the considerations here. unlike american politics where we're obsessed with the character and beauty contest of it, this election is more of what these cardinals want than even who. that, going back to the vatican bank and finance and the accountability is the window into the urgency of this situation. >> chris, we have just a bit of breaking news. i'm not sure if it's made it to your live location yet, but i mentioned you are one of 6,000 credentialed journalists. we know one person denied credentials. pardon my pronunciation, luigi nusi. this is significant because of the scandals in the church. what's the buzz around the vatican? >> reporter: well, it's no secret and not news that the documents that were leaked in the situation was very unfortunate, disappointing to the vatican, and they struck out against it. when the journalist in question wasn't credentialed because he wrote a book in part using those documents, that was seen as they are holding the line on the accountability of seen that as being wrong. obviously, the vatican we talked earlier about being its own sovereign, they can make their determination and did so. >> beck, i want to turn to you. i mentioned a few people off the top of this program that seem to be getting a lot of buzz, seem to be getting a lot of mention. i don't think we can call anybody frontrunners, and chris is looking at you with the same look i have, how do we determine who the frontrunners are or at least who gets the buzz? >> ashleigh, you know that saying, when in rome? in rome, they are talking about, believe it or not, cardinal sean o'malley. he's on the front page of the papers, romans i spoke to ask about cardinal o'malley. when he took over in boston as cardinal in 2003, there were 17 seminarys. today there are 70 seminarians. can you imagine that balcony behind us with the red drapes if sean o'malley in a brown franciscan habit were to set forth. the reason the pope wears white is because there was a dominican in the 1500s who was pope and wore a white habit. he stepped out in the white habit and such it has been since then. so sean o'malley could very likely step out of there in a brown habit and it would change everything. >> can i ask you -- >> why do you laugh? >> yeah, why do you laugh, chris? >> reporter: because it's a big deal to father beck, because he's a priest. you say he's going to walk out in a brown habit, to me it is one more thing to look for. we're treating this in a lot of ways as journalists as an election. who are the frontrunners, what are the issues, who has the pluses and minuses, but to this community of catholics and cardinals, it goes so much deeper. goes to the order of religious. goes to the priorities of relief. while that might be harder for us to understand as secular journalists, certainly in house here are looking at things like what father beck is looking at. that would be meaningful change. americans want to hear about celibacy, priests, but that would be a big deal. >> someone who has been seen with the sex abuse scandal as a reformer. he moved in in boston, bad history, and he cleaned it up. >> reporter: financial accountability, too. >> i wonder how much of this conversation is going on, clearly not within the conclave. it's supposed to be silent, but the two of you have a long day ahead of you. thank you both. chris cuomo, father beck. good to see you both. thank you. to the war in afghanistan now. it has happened again, two american troops killed today by a person wearing afghan national security forces uniform. an unspecified number of nato and afghan troops were also killed in this attack. this also happened as our brand new defense secretary, chuck hagel, was just leaving the country after a three-day visit. barbara star joins us live now from the pentagon. do you have anything more developing on this story, barbara? >> we do, indeed, ashleigh. a very grim reminder of the war's toll, two u.s. troops killed in wardak province and now we're indicating as many as ten americans wounded in this attack. the perpetrator said to be a man wearing a uniform of afghan security forces. and like in so many of these attacks what we don't know is was he a legitimate member of the afghan forces or just wearing, perhaps, a stolen uniform? all of that under investigation. but the fact that the toll is so large, officials say they believe this person has an automatic weapon with him. this happened in wardak province, ashleigh. that's just west of kabul, and that's the area of contention right now between hamid karzai and the u.s. military. he's ordered all u.s. special forces out of wardak province. the u.s. is trying to negotiate that with him. they consider wardak, the u.s. does, a very crucial area. it's on the road basically to kabul. it's the way they try to keep the insurgents out of the capitol. ashleigh? >> barbara starr working this breaking story for us, thank you, barbara. the tsa says grab your knives, grab your golf clubs, get onboard. some lawmakers are not on board with that. it's a brand new policy, will it fly? 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knives, are not allowed on planes. >> reporter: new york senator chuck schumer joins unions representing pilots, flight attendants, and federal air marshals in publicly opposing the plan. delta ceo also expressed his rejection saying the change will, quote, add little value to the customer security process flow in relation to the additional risk for our cabin staff and customers. under the tsa's new policy, knives with blades shorter than 2.36 inches and less than a half an inch wide will be allowed, provided the blade does not lock in place. larger knives, raizer blades, ad box cutters are still banned. tsa administrator john pistol says it will help screeners focus on things that will bring down an aircraft, like bombs. >> the key factor for me, that may detract us, may, detract us from that item that could be catastrophic failure to an aircraft. >> reporter: the chairman of the house homeland security, says the tsa's priorities must be securing commercial aviation from the type of threats and weapons that could bring down an aircraft. but schumer says a knife does pose that risk and keeping them off planes only makes sense. >> does anyone think this, what you're not allowed to bring on a plane, bottle of shampoo, is more dangerous than this, a sharp and deadly knife? >> reporter: all right. well, you know that knife that you just saw there senator schumer holding up, ashleigh, the tsa says that style of knife would actually not be allowed on board a plane. meantime, schumer is saying if the tsa does not repeal this new policy, he would be forced to consider introducing legislation that could overturn it. one last point, the union representing flight attendants, they have petitioned the white house to keep these, these small pocket knives, off of planes. we checked that petition just a few minutes ago. already they have more than 19,000 signatures. ashleigh? >> important, rene, you showed that knife. it has no locking mechanism. the blade, if it locks in place. rene marsh, thank you for that background and that information. joining me now with his take is mike brooks, a law enforcement analyst on our sister network hln. he knows a thing or two about weapons and bad guys. here's the thing, mike, you heard in that report, there are the pros and there are the cons. can a little itty bitty knife bring down a big giant plane in this day and age? ? you know, ashleigh, never say never, because there's other things besides these knives that are going to be allowed on planes now. why do you need to take a baseball bat, a golf club, a hockey stick, a ski pole? these are going to be allowed into the cabins of these aircraft now. there's no reason. >> there is a reason, here's what the tsa says. they say, we are mired in so much crap at the security checkpoints that we can't look for the really dangerous things like underwear bombs that will bring an aircraft down. but with today's vigilant passengers, post-9/11, there is no one in the cabin that's going to let someone with a golf club or teeny tiny knife take down the plane and the cabin doors are locked to the pilots. >> fine. you're going to use the flight attendants as collateral damage? what about the federal air marshals on the planes, too. let me tell you something, ashleigh, if something happens in the back of the plane, the fams, their job is to protect the cockpit at all costs. >> listen -- >> let me finish. let me tell you, if something goes on in the back, they are not going to be able to take care of that. look, after i was in law enforcement, i was hired by delta airlines to start up an abusive passenger program before 9/11, and my job back then, i was trying to get the knives off the planes before 9/11. and after 9/11 happened, i thought it was good that they did not allow. why bring it back on, there's no need. >> notwithstanding that knives can hurt someone, i think we all agree with that. i walk new york city streets every day and i take that risk, but can a little knife to the throat of a passenger or flight attendant, which is horrible, can it kill the rest of the passengers and that's what the tsa is saying. their job is not to protect each and every one of us like on the streets of new york, it's to save the aircraft and the rest of us from going down. >> let me give you a hypothetical, god forbid it happened, what if someone with these little knives up to a three-inch blade, what if they cut the throat of a federal air marshal and get his or her gun, could they then take down that plane? absolutely. so, why allow them in. also at the checkpoints, tsa, okay, they see something, they are going to have to pull you aside, how big is this knife, they are going to have to measure it. that's going to take their eye off the ball of looking for other things. why? there's no need for them on the plane. you know one other organization that's against this, the federal law enforcement officers association. 26,000 officers and agents from 65 different 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people who died in the tsunami two years ago today. the area around the fukushima nuclear plant remains largely deserted, but far away in hawaii there is a constant reminder of what happened in japan two years ago. our kyung lah shows you why. >> reporter: slamming the shores of one of hawaii's most remote beaches, debris, large and small. covering every inch of the beach coastline. the foreign markings tell where some of it comes from. these are definitely from japan. this is some type of pickle. that's definitely japanese. hawaii wildlife funds megan lamson has seen the debris since last fall, like refrigerator, with japanese on the temperature dial. large buoys, even an intact fishing boat from japan. sucked into the pacific on that horrifying day two years ago. traveling through the pacific, volunteers like hwf have been fighting the already big problem of marine debris. only made worse with the 1.5 million tons of floating tsunami debris. >> it's disheartening to come out here and see all this marine debris in an area that's otherwise so remote. debris washing up from other countries. >> reporter: this is not just a litter problem. look at what's inside this albatross, a sea bird. found dead, plastics fill its body. david and his team are researching the alarming rate of debris in the birds. >> here you see. >> it is filled with plastic. >> reporter: this is a stomach of a two-month old albatross. is that part of a drain? >> it's a brush, you see? >> reporter: about 80% of this baby bird's stomach is indigestible plastic, fed this by his parents who confused it for food. >> morally, this is terrible. how is this possible, right? majestic, far ranging, beautiful birds, right? in a pristine place of the north pacific. then you open them up and this is, you know, what you find. >> reporter: he says every single bird he's opened up had some sort of plastic, some large ones like these toys and lighters in the adult birds. >> goes way beyond the albatross. >> 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>> there's a possibility. >> what's your gut telling you right now? >> my gut's telling me that she's okay. >> okay. and your gut tells you that she's close or she's hiding? >> she's not far. >> well, casey's story is that her dad was in on that all along, but you'd have to be the judge of that by looking at him on that videotape. turns out the body they were talking about of little caylee anthony wasn't far away. it was actually rotting at that moment that they were talking in a park just about a stone's throw away from the anthony house. those lies earned casey anthony the title from the new york post of the most hated person in america. ahead of jerry sandusky and bernie madoff. but is there a new contender for that crown? maybe, perhaps jodi arias? because jodi arias also admits that she shot and stabbed and slashed her boyfriend, but she says it was in self defense. but then she changed her story. first she said she didn't do it at all, then she said intruders killed alexander, then came the evidence against her, then the mea culpa, then the battered woman's defense, which led to this spectacular question from a juror that was read in open court by the judge. >> after all the lies you have told, why should we believe you now? >> lying isn't typically something i just do. i'm not going to say that i've never told a lie in my life before this incident, but the lies that i've told in this case are -- can be tied directly back to either protecting travis's reputation or my involvement in his death. >> and there's her answer. joining me now is noted defense attorney jose baez. hello, jose. nice to see you again after all these years. >> great to see you as well, ashleigh. >> we spent a lot of time in the courtroom together you and i did. i wanted to ask you the minute i started to see the details coming out in this jodi arias case, i wonder what jose baez would have to say about the spectacular lying acumen of jodi arias. would you want to be defending her, jose? >> well, i think, unfortunately for this defense team, they've got a very long uphill battle. i don't -- i don't see that they have much to work with other than putting her on the stand, especially if you're going to put forward an affirmative defense, which is what self defense is. >> what's different between casey and all the lies she finally admitted to telling. let me tell you, the more you watch the videos of her, you know, it's remarkable some of the things that she said. and the more i see jodi arias, i think they are kind of the same ilk. what's different about these two cases? >> i think there's many more differences than there are similarities. i don't see very many similarities at all. you have to remember a lot of defendants lie when they get caught by the police, so it's not something that's new or something that's unique to these two defendants. what you have that's the main difference between casey anthony and jodi arias is that a lot of casey's lies were long standing long before anything happened to caylee. we're talking about two years back that were consistent on a daily basis, whereas a lot of what jodi's lies are seem to be directed at evading prosecution. and that's where it really hurts her a whole lot more than it ever did casey. >> so, jose, your client never took the stand. there's another big difference, she was never on the stand and jodi has been on the stand 17 days, which boggles the mind, but your client was acquitted of first-degree death penalty murder and jodi arias is also facing that charge. your jurors got over casey's lies. do you think these jurors can get over jodi's lies? >> well, i don't think that we're only talking about lies. now remember jodi admitted to the killing, but there was very little in terms of cross-examination on the science to try and support some of her self defense claims and that's where i think she's going to really be hurt. you know, when it all boils down to the end of the day, all of the lies, the sex, all of the side stories about the boyfriends and religion really don't amount to the key issue here, which is did she actually act in self defense. is there anything to support her affirmative defense, which means she has to help prove something. it's not like she can sit back and say the state has to prove the case against me. she's raised this defense, which clearly gives a burden to her. and i saw a little bit of that, but very little in terms of that other than her testimony, which unfortunately has zero credibility. >> jose, let me ask you this. you and i go back to the beginning of the casey case. we've had lots of conversations, many on the record, you know the press and many in the court felt that your client probably had a terrible accident and that little child of hers died and she began the web of lies to cover it up. that was not what she was convicted of. she was not convicted of anything, but in your heart, do you believe that that's what happened in the casey anthony case, a terrible accident that your client covered up with her lies? >> well, i'll first qualify my answer with my opinion matters very little, but if you really want to know it, i would say yes. >> your opinion matters everything, because you are the only person who's had a chance to speak with her at length. she hasn't talked to the rest of us. >> i can tell you this, i built my opinion based on the evidence that supported what she was saying. the fact of the testimony and the evidence that was admitted about the latter was very convincing to me. you know, caylee was swimming every single day that week, and then the night before, cindy and caylee are swimming, the ladder got left the day after -- the actual day that caylee died, that's when the anthonys discovered the ladder up. >> you still believe her story, then? you're telling me with the ladder and the pool? >> yes, i do. i've been in that house and saw how meticulous those people were and how neat. nothing's out of place. yes, i believe that. >> you know, since i got you, i'm going to keep you. i have a couple of other cases i'd like you to weigh in on. i'm sure you heard about the one in new york we're covering with this police officer who had these fantasies about cannibalizing women, including his wife. the verdict watch, i want to ask you about thought police and where we have the right to step in and say you're dangerous and must be stopped and where we don't. that's after the break. 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[ male announcer ] ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. in new york today, jury deliberations are resuming in the case of the so-called cannibal cop, gilberto valle. he is accused of conspiracy in an alleged plot to kidnap, kill, and eat several women, including his own wife. valle's defense team argues he was only engaged in a dark fantasy and he didn't have any intention of really doing these things. the federal prosecutors, on the other hand, say his online communications were too detailed and revealed in-depth planning of a real plot, even some action. cnn legal analyst sunny hostin is with us also jose baez, who represented casey anthony. sunny, quick update from you, if we could. we are on verdict watch, how do things look like they are going, so far? >> reporter: well, it's the third day of deliberations for this jury all-in, it's been about eight and a half hours and it's very tense in the courtroom. the prosecutors are milling around, the defense attorneys are milling around. it is packed with media, packed with gilberto valle's family, his mother has been here every single day of the trial. now, the jury did send out two notes on friday, so in terms of reading the tea leaves, i think we have a bit of a sense of where this trial is going. one, they are certainly digging in, ashleigh. they asked for six, six transcripts, and in addition, i just found out there is a lawyer on the jury. they also asked a very sophisticated question about venue, which is legalese for does the government even have jurisdiction, jurisdiction, ashleigh, to deal with this case, because they are saying there may not have been these overt acts that even occurred here in the southern district of new york. >> well, that's odd. that doesn't sound like jurisdiction, that just sounds like evidence. sunny, thank you. keep an eye on that for us. that's crazy. jose baez, weigh in on that, that's quite a question, do you have jurisdiction, do you think they are just getting their words muddled? >> i think it's brilliant to have a lawyer on this jury. you know, this story reminds me of tom cruise's story "the minority report." it's very similar. you're arresting and charging and prosecuting someone for thinking about committing a crime, and the fact that overt act is the key issue here. what did this person do in addition to just thinking about the crime. to kind of set things in motion. >> you know what, he did a lot. he did a lot. he did a lot of overt things. he scoped them out in the real world. he accessed his police database for some information on these people. he had a meeting with one of them. so, there are overt acts there. but my question to you is this, when you have a guy that is clearly so yucky, there's no other way to put this guy. he's admitted to these fantasies, et cetera. if he is acquitted, does he have any life? and i'm thinking casey anthony, again, "new york post" most hated woman in america. will this guy have any life after he's acquitted in court? >> well, you have to move on, ashleigh, number one. but i will tell you this much, i certainly don't think he has a future in law enforcement. >> yeah. >> it is scary the fact that he's a police officer takes this to a whole new level, but fortunately there's a psychological requirement to carry out the job in law enforcement. and i think this will clearly classify and raise a few red flags to kind of keep him out of that profession completely. >> jose baez, i can't move on. i lost 80 days of my life in the courtroom. i can't move on. i want you to stay with me because there's this question that's been stumping a lot of us. what would you do if a suspected sex offender was lurking around a park where your children play? and then how about a registered sex offender? some parents think so-called pocket parks might be the answer. that's moving on for me, jose. this is my family. this is joe. hi joe! hi there! earn a ton of extra points with the double your hhonors promotion and feel the hamptonality. you know, there are rules in most jurisdictions that registered sex offenders can't live within, you know, say 2,000 feet of a school or a park. and now there are a lot of people across this country who have seized on that last little bit, a park, to keep registered sex offenders out of their neighborhoods building itty bitty parks called pocket parks. one in los angeles is 1,000 square feet, but it qualifies as a park and makes sure no registered sex offenders live nearby. but is that legal? is it fair? is it moral? and what does it do to all the sex offenders who are now just gone or homeless? back with his take on us is our criminal defense attorney jose baez. what do you think about that story? do you think that's fair? do you think it's right? do you think it's more dangerous to scatter sex offenders all over the map instead of keeping them in one controllable location? >> well, we've had that problem here in miami for quite a while to the point where they lived under bridges. and that was the only place they could go. and then the city threw them out. i really don't know what the answer is here. do we end upsetting up reservations for sex offenders? or putting them in some far off land? i don't think that's the answer. what a lot of people don't realize is that many sex offenders are from what we call romeo and juliet laws. they're not usually -- many of them don't have violent pasts. and weren't crimes against children. but you do have a problem here. and they are monitored very closely. only 3.5 of the parolees actually violate. but that creates a major problem where people want to have safety. and it's a balance. i don't know. >> some of the people who actually run the housing scenarios for a lot of these registered sex offenders say that they actually become more likely to commit a crime once they don't have anything to lose, meaning if they're building up their lives again, they may be less likely to commit these crimes. when they're scattered and as you said living under a bridge, what else is there to do but rob or attack? >> right. and remember they have three square meals a day plus a roof over their head if they commit a crime. so are we encouraging it? i don't know. that's certainly another argument that needs to be taken into consideration. but these communities that want to build these pocket parks, it's just like, you know, some of those homeowners associations that go a little overboard. >> yeah. >> these people are monitored. they have to check-in every month. they can't change their address, they can't change their driver's license. they're monitored very closely. >> thousand square foot of park is something else. jose, when we come back i want to ask you about how things have been going for you since the casey case and then i'll move on. does that sound okay? >> that sounds like a plan. >> we're back after this. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. to get our adt security system. and one really big reason -- the house next door. our neighbor's house was broken into. luckily, her family wasn't there, but what if this happened here? 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of the department of homeland security as congress battles over funding. this showdown happening at a critical time. the united states and britain are vowing to hunt down the cold-blooded isis killer known as jihadi john. the londoner who has brutally slaughtered western hostages on camera. but while the world now knows his true identity mohammad emwazi was known to british security services for years. he was detained more than once. so how did he escape that scrutiny and become a key figure in the isis reign of terror? how will the department of homeland security protect americans from a terror threat which is growing daily if congress cannot find a way to pay those workers whose job is supposed to keep all of us safe? looks like republicans are moments away from failing to break the deadlock over funding the department of homeland security. house democrats joined by 15 republicans voted to block an effort to keep the money flowing for another three weeks. let's go immediately to our chief congressional correspondent dana bash up on capitol hill. dana the clock clearly ticking but it looks like this stalemate continues. >> reporter: that's right. what's going on as we speak on the house floor is a lot of arm twisting and pretty much panic. the republican leaders are scrambling to try to find now just a few more votes, but critical votes to keep the department of homeland security running just for three weeks. what's been going on is democrats had already said all day long they were going to vote no in protest because they don't like the concept of only kicking the can down the road and not fully funding the department. they don't like the short term bill. but now we are in the position of democrats potentially getting blamed for shutting down the department because they don't have the votes to at least do this stopgap measure. that's why this vote is still open. on the house floor, just a few feet from where i am right now, a lot of scrambling not just by house republicans but by democrats trying to figure out if they want to change their votes, enough of them to make sure this passes so that they don't have the tables turned on them and get blamed for a shutdown of the department of homeland security. >> it looks like right now, no time left. our viewers can see it on the screen. it looks like 222 nays 218 is the majority. they could still change their votes, i take it but if no one changes their votes, this is going to fail. >> reporter: that's correct. it has been out of vote so to speak, out of time for quite some time. you just saw the house speaker walk behind me as we were talking. he went from his office to the house floor so it's going to be some high profile arm twisting going on right now. i think he's obviously going to the floor to see what he can do. but you are exactly right, this is -- should have been over awhile ago but they are keeping it open in order to find those few more votes they need to pass this. they are not calling it failed yet. they are hoping that they can find a way to still make this work. >> what happens if it stays like this and it fails? what's next? >> reporter: if it fails, there is a big question mark. honestly i don't think there is a plan b right now, because the republicans are hoping that this will just keep them over for three weeks and that they can have a discussion about the whole reason why we're here in the first place, which is republicans do not like the idea of what the senate passed earlier today, in a bipartisan way, which is a clean bill fully funding the department of homeland security through the end of the year. republicans are still trying one last time to find a way to include in that a rider that blocks the president's immigration plan. they haven't been able to do that in the senate. there just aren't the votes in the senate for that. but they have been trying to at least make a statement by telling conservatives they are going to try one more time in a couple of weeks. but so far, that tactic isn't working. they are trying to figure out a plan b. there really wasn't one. >> so far, it looks like this has failed unless some people change their minds in relatively big numbers. stand by. i want to go to our white house correspondent, michelle kosinski. let's talk about what the president is trying to do to make sure the department of homeland security after midnight tonight still has money to protect the borders, protect national security protect airports people who are flying leaving the united states staying in the united states. what's the president doing? >> reporter: exactly. we haven't heard from the president directly at this 11th hour even though there have been plenty of questions day to day, what is the president doing, how is he going to engage is he going to sit down with any of these leaders directly or try to persuade some behind the scenes. but the answer from the white house has been pretty consistent that the president has been working on this throughout that basically the president did his job and congress did not. the language from the white house is getting more and more tough day to day, too. just today, saying that congress this is an abject failure of the leadership. yesterday saying it's as if congress is falling down on the job. in fact today the white house referred to an op-ed piece that john boehner had done right after the midterms saying now let's see congress go to work let's see it actually working. so the white house almost ridiculing that today in the briefing. we did see a tweet from the white house this afternoon saying we can't govern from crisis to crisis add your name if you support a long term plan to fund dhs. so what the white house has been hammering home is that they -- it did -- has done its work. they want a long term plan to fund dhs and they say what's interesting is that the hard work has already been done setting the level of funding. they're saying this isn't even a partisan dispute anymore. it's a party dispute, wolf. >> so stand by for a moment michelle. i want to go back to dana bash up on capitol hill. dana it's a little complicated what's going right now but we know the stakes are enormous as far as homeland security here in the united states is concerned right now. the stakes are really really critical. let's talk a little bit what has happened. there has been this debate that's been going back and forth. everybody says they want to fund the department of homeland security but the republicans didn't want to fund the president's executive action that would go ahead and take unilateral steps easing illegal immigrants' opportunities to remain in the united states. in the end, the senate, mitch mcconnell the senate majority leader, in the end he decided to put forward language that passed decisively overwhelmingly today, to keep the department of homeland security funded through the end of the fiscal year meaning until the end of september. that passed decisively. the democrats were on board, the republicans were on board. there was no mention of any immigration cutoff of spending anything along those lines, separate legislation was stalled on that. that legislation i take it now has gone over to the house of representatives, but the house has decided they wanted to pass simply a three-week extension which the democrats didn't want. they just thought that was kicking the can down the road. a lot of republicans didn't want it because it didn't have anything to do with cutting off spending for immigration reform. as a result we see what's up on the screen right now. 222 nays. you need 218, that's the majority that blocked there three-week call this continuing resolution during which the speaker of the house, john boehner, wanted in effect the negotiations to continue to have the house/senate conference committee go ahead, see if they could come up with some sort of plan to keep the department of homeland security working, functioning with full funding. that is now very much up in the air and it sets the prospects for a cutoff of funding at midnight tonight. >> reporter: that's right. both sides are playing hardball. you just described the mechanics of what they are doing. why they are doing it is this. republicans in the house feel that they still have one last gasp to try to push for some compromise that will at least mitigate what the president is able to do on his immigration plan and use their power of the purse which this is in order to force that to happen. democrats are playing hardball by saying no we are not, you look at the screen right now, 172 democrats voted against funding the department of homeland security. they didn't do it because they don't want to fund the department. they did it because they don't want to just do it temporarily for three weeks. they are saying if you want to fund it let's fund it for real. we are not going to play -- you have heard democrats all day on the house floor saying stop playing games, this is amateur hour all kinds of ways that they are pushing their fellow democrats not to go along with this. i said both sides are playing hardball. the question is which side is going to give in and it looks like -- the numbers haven't moved now in at least ten minutes. so what we initially thought going into this vote frankly, is that once we got to this point where it was just a few votes needed from the democrats for this to pass that they would give up their protests and vote yes in order to just allow this to go through. that is not happening right now. the democrats are really holding firm. so now it's up to republicans and i can tell you, i'm just a few feet off the house floor. deirdre walsh, our house reporter is around the corner. she has got a closer vantage point to members of congress. she is talking to republicans and democrats and it's pretty clear, they don't have a plan b. they are trying to figure out what to do next. >> dana a lot of viewers are looking at that image coming from the floor of the house of representatives. they see 204 yea, 222 nay. they see seven members of the house not voting. but they also see time remaining, 000. that's been about 10 or 15 minutes. zero time remaining. here's a couple questions. how long can they keep this vote open keep the clock at 000 and potentially give members a chance to change their minds, change their votes? >> reporter: indefinitely. there have been times late at night votes during back when tom delay was the house majority whip they held it open for hours to try to work over members to change votes. the house republicans or whomever is in charge at this point house republicans, are in charge of the house and they control the answer to that question. they will probably keep it open until they think it is absolutely pointless that they will not win this. so it could take quite a long time for them to come to that conclusion. we just don't know. >> let me go back to michelle at the white house. let's say the speaker of the house, john boehner, he convinces a bunch of republicans to change their votes. they get 218 that they need to pass this three-week extension allowing the funding to go forward for an additional three weeks, during which there will be more negotiations between the house and the senate presumably the president himself. has the white house indicated whether the president would sign a three-week so-called continuing resolution to allow the department of homeland security to continue paying workers hundreds of thousands of workers, has the white house said whether the president would sign that into law? >> reporter: they did address that today, saying yes, basically as a last resort as painful as this is for them to do yet another battle which is what this is setting up for. but very short term bill the white house said that if that's the only choice in order to keep the government shutting down then yeah, the president would sign that. but they have been hesitating to even answer that question for days. first waiting to see whether they would even be able to do a clean bill. the president saying for sure he would veto a bill that would attach itself to the immigration executive action. but at this point it looks like the white house would go along with pretty much anything to keep that vital part of the government functioning. >> michelle stand by. gloria borger is here with me in "the situation room." gloria why wouldn't the speaker of the house do what the majority leader in the senate mitch mcconnell did and allow the funding to go forward throughout the rest of this fiscal year until the end of september, since all that immigration stuff is on hold anyhow because a texas judge, a federal judge in texas says it's unconstitutional. the president didn't have the authority to do it it's not being implemented right now. why wouldn't the speaker go ahead and do what the republican leadership in the senate did? >> because he doesn't have control over his caucus. >> he's the speaker of the house. >> it doesn't matter anymore, wolf. it's not like the days of newt gingrich when he brought in the majority of the house -- >> i'm going to bring dana into this conversation. dana hypothetically, if john boehner would have agreed with mitch mcconnell and allowed the senate version to pass keeping the funding going through the end of september, the end of the fiscal year all the democrats in the house would have voted for it and a whole bunch of republicans would have voted for it as well. here's the question. would they have reached the magic number of 218? >> reporter: yes. likely. >> maybe. >> reporter: likely they would have. they could have been in the same position they're in right now. there is as much pressure -- they're gaveling. excuse me for one sec. let's listen. >> [ inaudible ]. >> on this vote the yeas are 203. the nays are 224. the joint resolution is not passed. without objection, a motion to reconsider is laid on the table. for what purpose does -- >> reporter: wow. >> dana you heard the official announcement it failed. 224-203. here's the question. where do we go from here? >> reporter: we don't know. we just heard kevin mccarthy, the house majority leader just say on the house floor that they are going to wait for other votes. what democrats are hoping in having this mass protest and voting against this is that they are going to force republicans to take up the fully funded bill. they are going to force republicans to take up the bill that the senate passed. they are playing hardball or as a democrat who is on the house floor who just texted me saying we are playing a high stakes game of chicken. they are admitting it. it is a high stakes game. i will tell you politically, the risk that democrats are about to run is that it is going to be a lot easier for republicans to point fingers at them and say you contributed to the shutdown of the department of homeland security that you said we shouldn't do because you voted against keeping it open. >> dana looks like members are leaving the floor, moving on to other business right now. i don't know what other business they have. what could be more important than funding the department of homeland security and protecting all americans right now. but clearly, they've got a major problem. they have to figure out what to do and the clock, six hours, 44 minutes, is ticking. i assume they are going to go behind closed doors. the speaker, the majority leader and they will come up with some sort of strategy what to do the next few hours, right? >> reporter: that's right. the speaker has already walked by me from the house floor back to his office. i expect other members of his leadership to walk there, too, as they try to figure out a plan b which as i said, they simply didn't have. the other thing i want to point out about the vote is that it wasn't just democrats opposing it. the republicans have such a huge majority that they could have passed this with no democrats. about 50 republicans, it looks like, also voted no. the reason why they voted no is because they won't even vote for a short term spending bill to keep the government or the department running, rather without also protesting the president's immigration plan. so you have the push and the pull that john boehner has been seeing and feeling on so many issues for so many years continuing even on an issue like this which everybody has been saying is about the staftafety of the american people. >> doesn't get much more important than this. if you could grab one of the republican leaders walking by you, go ahead and grab him. get a hand-held mic ready to go. i want to bring in gloria for a moment. gloria this is a huge huge embarrassment for the speaker of the house, john boehner. he puts forward a piece of legislation to keep it funded for three weeks, he fails. >> which he thought by the way, which he presented to his caucus last night which he thought was a compromise conservatives would buy on to. i think now both sides are playing a very very risky and dangerous game here. the american public believes the department of homeland security should be open. that's without debate. now, each side has backed into a corner. you saw democrats voting against this because they don't want a short term measure. but when you step back from it the american public is going to look at this and at this point, with a bunch of democrats voting no they have given the republicans the opportunity to say well you were responsible for shutting down the department of homeland security just as much as the democrats are now saying to the republicans. so the public while the majority of the public in our poll a week or so ago said they would have blamed the republicans over president obama, i think now the democrats have put themselves a little bit at risk here because so many of them voted against this to push the republicans in a corner. >> dana i understand you have congressman steve israel one of the democratic leaders in the house of representatives. ask him how he feels about the fact that the department of homeland security could be shut down at least partially at midnight tonight, in part because of almost all of the democrats voting at least to keep the funding going for another three weeks, the democrats voted against that. >> reporter: that's right. that's precisely why i asked the congressman to come over. thank you very much. this is what i have been saying to wolf that you run a risk as a democrat, and all of the democrats who voted against the short term bill as being blamed for shutting down the department of homeland security. i know that you are trying to make a point, but at a certain point, don't you also have to keep the department running? >> we are not trying to make a point. we are trying to get one full year of funding for the department of homeland security. we told the republicans every single democrat will vote for a one-year funding bill just bring it to the floor. it's not too late. they can bring that to the floor literally in the next few minutes. they will have every single democratic vote. the american people can know that we have a homeland security budget that's not political, that's clean, and that allows for planning for the next year. >> reporter: it's a high stakes game of chicken you are playing here. >> it is a game but it's a game the republicans have played. if it weren't for their obsession with the presidential executive order on immigration, this bill would have passed. this is the last bill that should be subject to partisanship. they have insisted on trying to nullify an executive order on immigration because they have a disagreement with the president on that. they are entitled to the disagreement. they are not entitled to play games with homeland security. i don't mind them being dumb. i mind them being dangerously dumb. >> reporter: thank you very much. i appreciate it. wolf as we finish talking, i will try to get a republican. i can tell you that republican staffers and others have been walking by here going to john boehner's office trying to figure out what their next move is. they don't have one yet. >> it's still nupup in the air. this is one of the reasons the american public when they are asked their attitudes about the united states congress they have got -- it's usually within the margin of error whether anyone likes the united states congress. >> i don't even think lots of members of the united states congress like the congress right now. it's down to singling digit approval rating. this is exactly why. dana was pointing out to steve israel the democrats have put themselves at some risk here. this is a game they are playing. they trying to push the republicans up against the wall and we understand that you know the republicans don't like the president's immigration plan -- executive order, they want to defund it they don't want to spend any money on it. everybody kind of understands that. but at a certain point, wolf, it's not a political game anymore. this is the department of homeland security. this is important. do they want to by the way, as a senior democrat said to me yesterday, do republicans want to close down the department of homeland security and now i think that question has to be asked to the democrats as well while the prime minister of israel is here who will be talking about iran sanctions, who will be talking about israel's security american security? how embarrassing would that be for the united states? that's a question i think that republicans are probably talking about right now, as are democrats. i would think the democrats have made their political point. they played their political game. maybe now they can convince a couple dozen members on both sides to do something to fund the department of homeland security. >> they have six hours and 38 minutes left before funding for the department of homeland security runs out. michelle kosinski are you still with us at the white house? >> reporter: yes. >> let's talk about, i don't know if the president is getting ready to make a statement, if he is going to come into the briefing room is he going to address this issue. jeh johnson, secretary of homeland security we invited him to join us to hear what he has to say, because the ramifications of no funding will be enormous. first of all, hundreds of thousands of employees potentially won't get paid many of them will have to work but are not going to get paid at least in the interim until they come up with some funding, but a whole bunch of others thousands of other employees, many of them in critically important issues they will be furloughed. they won't even go to work. they won't be paid if you will. what's the attitude over there at the white house? do you expect to hear from top officials, maybe even the president himself? >> reporter: we do. i'm surprised that we haven't heard at least from senior administration officials at this point reacting to what just happened. so surely we should get at least a statement. it's possible that the president will come out and speak. we don't know for sure that that will happen but i would say for the most part the white house has let the department of homeland security pretty much speak for itself on this issue. even in terms of the importance and the risk of a shutdown. for many days it was asked directly of the white house what are the effects really going to be especially since so many essential employees will still have to work what are the effects, what are the risks here. they would refer to dhs, outlining some of those. in the past couple days as this has really come down to thewire although we haven't heard directly from the president, we have seen the white house develop a tougher tone on this saying yes, there is a risk. >> stand by for a moment. steny hoyer is joining us, the democratic congressman from maryland, number two democrat in the house of representatives. mr. leader thanks for joining us. what do you think? what's going to happen now? >> well the majority leader just said that we are going to be having further votes which is good. my advice to the majority leader and to the republicans would be bring up a bipartisan bill. that's what the senate ultimately did, and funded the department of homeland security until the end of the fiscal year. that's what we ought to do. we can do that in a bipartisan fashion on behalf of the national security of this country. and i am hopeful that that's what will happen. >> have you and kevin mccarthy, the majority leader in the house of representatives, have you had a conversation since the failure of this three-week extension? >> no we have not at this point in time. i don't know whether he's going to call me but i would be glad to talk to him and we will give bipartisan support and democrats will vote overwhelmingly, almost unanimously, if not unanimously, for the senate bill which is hr 861 here. we have a house bill that mirrors the senate bill. that can pass and will pass easily. we ought to bring that to the floor. >> are you sure it would pass the senate version would pass? i know almost all of the democrats would vote for it but a lot of republicans won't. are you convinced you can get the 218 votes to pass what mitch mcconnell put forward in the senate? >> yes. absolutely. we had 12 republicans vote for the clean senate bill effectively earlier today. so that gets you to 200 and i'm convinced that we can get on the other side i think there are certainly 30 responsible republicans who have spoken out very strongly that the rational thing to do the common sense thing to do the right thing to do for the american people is to pass the senate bill. we have a house version of that so we passed the house version, senate to senate i am absolutely confident they would pass that by unanimous consent. >> let's say the speaker of the house and the majority leader john boehner, kevin mccarthy decide they are not going to want to put the senate passed legislation up for an up or down vote in the house of representatives. isn't it better to at least get a three-week extension of the funding rather than see the department of homeland security effectively shut down tonight? >> nobody wants to see the department of homeland security shut down. that is why senator mcconnell decided after four attempts to do what the republicans in the house of representatives tried to do today, senator mcconnell came to the common sense conclusion that was not going to work and the responsible thing to do was to fund in a bipartisan way homeland security for the balance of the year. i would hope that leader mccarthy would follow leader mcconnell's formula on getting us to where we need to be and then there's more than enough time to debate the grievances that the republicans have with what they think is an action by the president of the united states that was not consistent with law. they can introduce legislation, they control the senate and the house, they can pass legislation. the issue here is we ought not to go home tonight, let it be very clear, we ought not to go home tonight without funding the homeland security as the senate has done earlier this week. that shows the path and they ought to take it. >> let me just be precise, congressman. it's either the house passes or takes up the senate version of the funding for the department of homeland security or it's shut down. there is no in between, no additional compromises that may be on the table, something that you would be willing to extend maybe not for three weeks but maybe six weeks, nine weeks, something along those lines, so that maybe in the process, cooler heads might prevail? >> well in the process, what senator mcconnell was found was once they had the bills on the house floor that didn't pass senator mcconnell did what was the rational reasonable common sense thing to do. he went across the aisle and said look we have a disagreement we are not going to solve it let's fund the department of homeland security and 68 senators voted to do that. i'm sure that we would have a similar majority here to do the same thing. that's what we ought to do. that's what i'm hopeful we will do. that's what i certainly will support. >> one final point, though. we heard from our white house correspondent michelle kosinski. they said at the white house if the president had no other option but to sign into law the three week extension, he reluctantly would have gone ahead and signed that in order to avoid a shutdown of the department of homeland security. would he have been doing the right thing from your perspective? >> i think if the bill had gotten to him in that form i think signing it would have been proper for him to do. what is improper is to pretend that the situation's going to be different 21 days from now or you mentioned six weeks or two months, that the situation will be different. the situation's not going to change. harry reid has made that very very clear. so that we ought not to present the president with that option. what we ought to present the president with is the bill that the senate passed with over two-thirds majority than we can pass with a majority in this house. >> steny hoyer, the number two democrat in the house of representatives, we will stay in close touch with you. obviously the stakes here in the united states as far as homeland security are concerned, enormous right now. thanks very much for joining us. >> you bet. thank you, wolf. there's huge breaking news emerging right now from russia. want to show you some images coming in from russian television right now. russia state news agency announcing that a prominent russian opposition leader has been shot and killed by an unknown assailant. he was shot four times today in central moscow. he was russia's deputy prime 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apparently the shooting happened very close to the kremlin, very close to vladimir putin's office. it appears to have happened on a bridge that leads towards st. basil cathedral in the center of moscow. that's one of the things that makes this bizarre. that's an area where on a friday evening there will be a lot going on. there's a lot of traffic, there is also normally a lot of people walking around there as well. the latest that we have from the police is that apparently he was shot by an unknown assailant, they say, four times. we do know that one of his close friends and another opposition figure has been at the scene since then has seen and confirmed that the person who was killed is indeed boris nemtsov. at this point in time police say they are trying and looking for the assailant and at this point, what we have from them is they say there are several what they call operatives and investigators on the scene which seems to indicate they are trying to look and see who might be behind all this. but of course this is a huge event here in moscow and it also comes at a very pivotal time because it's only one day away from a very big opposition rally that was supposed to happen here of course criticizing vladimir putin, criticizing the economic crisis and of course also the foreign policy crisis that this country is in at the moment. so this is certainly going to stir a lot of questioning, if you will from the opposition here in this country. >> you know it's pretty shocking when you think about this one of the main opposition leaders, boris nemtsov, shot and killed in moscow. he gave an interview to cnn's anthony bourdain last year. i want to read a couple sentences what he told anthony bourdain speaking of russia right now, this is the former deputy prime minister of russia he said this. he said this is a country of corruption. and if you have business you are in a very unsafe situation. everybody can press you and destroy your business. that's it. this is the system. and he goes on to really, really criticize what's going on. i sensed i remember watching that interview and i have seen other interviews he's given. this is a guy who was worried about his own safety and obviously tonight, he has been shot and killed. tell us a little bit about boris nemtsov, fred. >> reporter: yes, certainly. certainly he was very worried about his safety and certainly he was one of the most outspoken critics of the system here and of vladimir putin as well. he criticized the system very frequently especially around the sochi olympics criticized what he called was corruption there. he had also been detained several times. he had been sentenced to jail several times. the last time that he was in prison was in 2011. all of them for criticizing the putin government. he was a prominent figure at the opposition rallies here in moscow and in other places criticizing the putin government. this is certainly someone who has had run-ins with the establishment here with the people he was criticizing and certainly someone who paid a very heavy price. he is also someone very prominent in russian politics in general. you mentioned he was deputy prime minister in the yeltsin administration in the late '90s and of course was someone who many people believed might become prime minister himself afterwards. but then when putin became president that didn't happen and he took on more of an opposition role. since 2007 he was arrested several times by authorities here all of it because of opposition activity. now, the other thing that he did, he also founded an opposition movement solidarity movement as he called it which frequently held rallies to frequently criticize vladimir putin and his government and generally the sort of power system here in russia. so this was certainly someone who has had his brushes here with the law, with the establishment here has paid a heavy price so far and was certainly someone as you said who feared for his safety who also of course feared for his freedom as well. and again, this comes at a very pivotal time right before that big opposition rally. it will be interesting to see what all of this is going to mean for the opposition movement here in russia especially at this very key time right now, especially as we are looking at this time right now with the ongoing crisis in ukraine, with the international sanctions against the putin government which in many ways putin himself hunkering down shooting against the west and of course at this time not -- or wants less to have internal criticism. newspapers have been shut down in russia there have been web sites that have been shut down here in russia in the past couple months. this certainly comes at a very very important time and is sure to stir a big reaction from the opposition. >> comes at a critically important time. boris nemtsov, former deputy prime minister of russia shot and killed assassinated tonight in moscow. jim sciutto is our chief national security correspondent. big picture right now, this is an awful time in u.s./russian relations, russian relations with the european union, with nato and all of a sudden this happens. given what's going on in ukraine right now, the u.s. the european fears that russia is moving to go ahead and formally annex huge chunks of ukraine, this is a very worrisome development. >> no question. this is a dangerous time between russia and its relations with the west no question. we see that playing out in ukraine. and a very dangerous time inside russia if you are in any way a member of the opposition or a critic of the government. this has been going on for a number of years. you see this with its treatment of a previous challenger to putin, put in prison for a number of years as you remember. i covered the case of alexander litvinienko who was a critic of the regime of the government there. he was poisoned with polonium. he latter dieder died. you have had a number of cases like this. it's interesting in nemtsov's case. you mentioned his interview with our own anthony bourdain a number of months ago. two weeks ago he gave an interview where he said he was afraid that vladimir putin would kill him. of course, we are many miles away from having any sort of evidence that he was behind this but that gives you a taste of what opposition figures feared the treatment would be. these are not unfounded fears based on the treatment of others who have risen to either challenge or criticize the leadership. other reactions coming in. we see senator john mccain just tweeting a few minutes ago, saying he is very saddened to hear of the death. he had a long relationship with nemtsov. also another prominent opposition figure in russia the former chess player as you remember gary kasparov who became a politician. i covered him during a campaign where he was challenging putin as president. he said that in russia he said quoting, in fact nemtsov, he said nemtsov told him in russia you have to live a long time see change. now he will never see change in russia. you are seeing a very emotional but also a very worried reaction from members of the opposition there because the worry is very real and it's real for a reason. >> it's a great patriot, opposition leader, very critical of the corruption that's going on in russia right now. very critical of putin himself in that interview with anthony bourdain he did offer some optimism. he said this. he said tony referring to anthony bourdain i was born here 54 years ago. this is my country. the russian people are a bit of a trouble. russian court doesn't work. russian education declines every year. i believe that russia has a chance to be free has a chance it's difficult, but we must do it. and now he is dead. >> think of all the millions of dollars that the u.s. invested in russia after the fall of the wall the fall of the soviet union, for the express purpose of building civil society in russia. and you had much progress over the years. the decades in the '90s. but we have seen that dismantled in the last decade under vladimir putin. in a number of ways through corruption no question through putting a clamp on any sort of independent media in russia. we certainly see that play out in the ukraine crisis. if you watch russian accounts of what's going on in ukraine, it is a different reality than the way that we cover it and ask questions about it here. we have seen that all dismantled over time. there is no credible political opposition there in terms of having a chance of actually unseating vladimir putin. this is something the u.s. tried to get involved with tried to make a difference and frankly invested a lot of diplomatic and financial capital and we are seeing that all fall apart. >> shocking development in moscow tonight. we will stay on top of it. we will go back to fred pleitgen and get much more. the russian opposition leader boris nemtsov has been shot and killed. he is a top opponent of the 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those in the face of daunting numbers. britain has thousands of suspected jihadis and sympathize sympathizers sympathizers. a senior british diplomat says the profile of recruits has expanded to include rich and poor educate and uneducate and more and more men and women. mohammed emwazi's case has an alarming parallel to the attacks in paris. the gunman who stormed charlie hebdo had been known to french security services for years and put on then taken off surveillance only months before their deadly rampage. u.k. authorities lost track of mohammed emwazi in 2013 when after he changed his name he then attempted to return to his birthplace in kuwait. he left the country and it was determined in 2013 that he indeed had gone on to syria. of course, it was in august of last year when he first appeared in one of those beheading videos. >> it wouldn't have been that difficult for him to get from the united kingdom somewhere in europe, take a train to turkey and cross into syria? >> that's 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you are in "the situation room." breaking this hour crisis for homeland security here in the united states. the democrat's money runs out in a few hours. on capitol hill right now there's a desperate scramble to try to find a way out of this mess. an 11th hour attempt to extend funding for three weeks failed a little while ago. this as the terror threat from isis is front and center. u.s. and british officials are vowing to bring jihadi john to justice hours after the isis killer's real name was revealed to the world. i will talk about that with republican senator lindsey graham. he is a key member of the senate armed services committee, a leading voice within his party. he is standing by live. our correspondents and analysts are standing by. they are covering all the news breaking right now. first let's go dana bash. she's up on capitol hill. the breaking news dana less than six hours, the department of homeland security won't have enough money to keep all of america safe. what's going on? >> reporter: what's going on is that if you look down the hall behind me that is where the house speakers' office is. he and his fellow house republican leaders are trying to figure out what plan b is is there a plan b that they can put together to avoid the department of homeland security shutting down at midnight. what happened just about an hour ago is the vote that they thought was going to pass to do a short-term three-week bill keeping the department running failed failed in part because they had 50 republicans who rebelled and said they didn't want to vote for funding the department without stopping the immigration plan. you had all the democrats, practically all the democrats i should say vote in protest saying they are not going to vote on anything short-term because they are trying to force the republicans' hand force them to bring up what the senate passed earlier today which is a full funded bill from now all the way the end of the fiscal year. so now we're in a waiting game. i was told by a republican source that they are talking about maybe just doing a one week spending bill a one week bill to keep the department running so that they don't get in the situation where the department completely shuts down. unclear if they can have the votes for that either. again, they are huddling back there. we don't know exactly how this is going to end. >> there's no official word from the speaker of the house john boehner or the majority leader kevin mccarthy? they are in closed door meetings trying to come up with a strategy is that right? >> reporter: that's right. you saw it live on air. the chaos on the house floor and the scramble of the leaders and other members to come off the floor to go behind closed doors to try to figure out what their next move is. that's still going on. >> they have five hours 57 minutes to go. a lot is at stake. stand by. what will it mean for the united states of america when homeland security funding runs out at midnight? less than six hours from now. let's bring in pamela brown. she has this part of the story. >> reporter: dhs says this will have a significant impact. although vital functions will be performed. an official i spoke with said 30,000 employees would be furloughed including 5,500 tsa agents. essential employees will continue to work we're told. also the more immediate impact from this wolf according to this official the dhs run federal law enforcement academy which trains would have to send home trainees beginning this weekend. dls says this would prevent new hires from becoming operational. also many of the agencies includesing tsa and the u.s. coast guard will not get paychecks. dhs saying many employees rely on the paychecks. this will impact them as well. important to note essential employees for the time being will continue to work. >> pamela stand by. i want to go to the white house. our correspondent michelle kosinski is over there. what are you learning? >> reporter: the white house has been mum on this latest development. it looks like they will wait and see. the night is not over yet. we don't know where this is going to end or exactly how. not even a statement from the white house. the president just spoke at an event at the department of justice. he didn't mention this subject at all. it was a separate thing for him. we did hear from him this week though talking about republicans holding the department of homeland security hostage. as a result our national security. he surprised everybody on monday when he came right out and said that this will have a direct impact on national security. the white house has been hesitating to go that far up until the president said it. so since then they have been outlining the ways that this is harming our country and harming congress as well. they have taken no -- they have taken every opportunity throughout this to slam house republicans, especially really putting the responsibility fully on the shoulders of house speaker john boehner. the white house has called this an abject failure of republican leadership saying they were falling down on the job and that this is not even a partisan dispute anymore. they say it's now a party dispute, wolf. >> we will see if there's a statement from the president or the press secretary or someone at the white house. let us know right away the clock clearly is ticking. there's other breaking news we're following right now. very disturbing news coming in from russia. a prominent opponent of the russian president putin has been shot and killed on the streets of moscow. boris nemtsov was russia's deputy prime minister under boris yeltsin. he was outspoken about the corruption in russia. very critical of putin. he was always afraid including in recent weeks, for his own security. >> no question. the more the details come out, the more shocking. shot seven to eight times from a car. it looks like a gangland assassination. it's government security services or gangs that have guns. the impression among critics is something like this happens, that someone must have given the order. of course there's no evidence of that. there is real reason to have fear if you are a member of the opposition or a critic of the government because in the past many of these people have lost their lives. i covered the case of a man living in london but he was poisoned with radioactive materials on the streets of london. one of the people who was implicated in the murder ended up a member of the russian duma. you have this kind of past which creates the fear for members of the opposition. as you note wolf a couple of weeks before this killing, nemtsov himself said he feared for his life from putin. we don't have evidence that anybody from the regime is behind this. but he had that fear. he expressed that fear publically. he was a very prominent voice, a very outspoken voice against the government. he was one of the authors of a report on corruption last year which was a controversy leading up to that. this say powerful moment. it's a worrisome moment in the country. it's a sign of how far civil society has fallen in that country. as you mentioned a short time ago, wolf during a time when russia and the west are very much in a dangerous period over the situation in the ukraine. >> a tense situation in ukraine with the u.s. the europeans accusing russia of actually invading and taking over huge chunks of ukraine. nemtsov spoke with our own anthony bourdain last year. i want to play a little clip. listen to the man who was assassinated tonight. >> critics of the government critics of putin, bad things seem to happen to them. yes, unfortunately, it represent russia of 19th century. not of 21st. >> critics of putin, beware. putin was accused of corruption and spent ten years in prison and labor camps. another accused state security services of organizing a cue to put put nn power. he was poisoned by a lethal dose of radioactive polonium. the former ukraineian president poisoned and nearly killed by a toxic dose of dioxin. i'm not saying official russian bodies had anything do with it. but it's mighty suspicious. >> i don't think you need to be a conspiracy theorist to say whoever did this wanted everyone to know who done it. everybody understands. >> of course. >> and everybody is meant to understand. >> yeah. everybody understands. everybody understands everything in this country. >> very chilling. he clearly was outspoken, very courageous a patriotic russian. wasn'ted to see a better russia. he worried about list own safety. saw that clearly come through in the interview with anthony bourdain and other interviews as well. now he is dead. >> he worried about list own safety for good reason. yet he kept his voice up. this is a dangerous thing to do in russia. many other critics of the regime feel forced to leave the country. they leave for their own safety. did he not. he kept speaking out. most recently with the olympics, but in 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this man is isis' best known killer a cold blooded brit. tonight we have new details about jihadi john who we believe say man named mohammed emwazi. new information on his alleged efforts to support the vicious al qaeda affiliate al shabab and how he went from being a privileged school boy to a murderer in the name of jihad. he may have beheaded hostages on camera himself. but jihadi john the man we now believe is 26-year-old mohammed emwazi was once a preppie british school boy from a middle class family. he graduated from a large well regarded university in london with a computer programming degree. how and why did a young man with his prospects join isis? a group for suspected radicals says it started when he went to tanzania in 20090 take a safari. he was subject to hostile questioning five times, mostly by british security services was once worked over by interrogators when he returned from kuwait. >> on one occasion he was roughed by the police. he was strangled by an officer. >> reporter: officials have no comment. analysts who know isis recruiting say this about the claim that harassment from authorities turned mohammed emwazi into jihadi john. >> it's an absurd claim. it was not the cause of his radicalization. the reason the intelligence services harassed him was because they suspected him of wanting to join al shabab in somalia. >> reporter: papers say he was part of a group of extremists called the north london boys who allegedly funneled money and recruits to al shabab. >> some raise up to senior positions. mohammed emwazi seems to have known some of the people. >> reporter: he went to syria in 2012. analysts say it's likely he joined another group first, then isis. he had at least one skill attractive to isis. >> to make your mark and to become important within the organization it's important to speak arabic. that would have made him stan out d out. >> reporter: another characteristic that would have moved him up a thirst for violence. every expect we spoke to said the idea that harassment from british authorities turned this man into a killer is absurd. martin luther king and malcolm x were harassed and they never beheaded anyone. >> let's get analysis. joining us lindsey graham of south carolina the leading member of the senate armed services committee and maybe a potential 2016 republican presidential candidate. thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> a lot of americans are confused. we have a lot of terror threats facing this country and within less than six hours, money for the department of homeland security is going to run out? is this possible in the united states of america? >> i hope not. because the concerns being expressed by the president, who i don't agree with much at all, he is right. to shut down the homeland -- department the homeland security for one minute in this environment would be incredibly irresponsible and puts our nation more at risk. that's a non-starter for me. >> you passed legislation in the senate mitch mcconnell you supported it to go ahead and fund the department fully until the end of the current fiscal year the end of september. the speaker of the house doesn't want to bring that language up on the floor of the house of representatives because he knows a lot of the members don't like it. it has nothing to do with immigration, stuff like that. what would you say to the speaker right now? they failed to get a three-week extension. >> 80% of the republican party would vote for an extension. 99% of the democratic party voted against a three-week extension. my advice would be for the democrats, help speaker boehner with an extension. then i will put the blame on us. to my colleagues in house freswho are frustrated with the amnesty, i understand but shutting down homeland security is not the right way to vent the frustration. the case is in court. >> you are appealing the democrats change your mind. give the speaker a three-week extension. let the department be funded for three weeks and then what? over the next three weeks, what's going to happen? >> appealing to my republican colleagues, abandon this idea that we're going to de-fund the department of homeland security unless the executive order is repealed legislatively. we don't have the votes in the senate. to me the best thing to do for the republican and democratic party is let the courts work its will. one judge ruled the orders is unconstitutional. there's a stay on the president's action. that's the right path to take. do not shut down dhs today or in the future. >> the republicans in the house, they could do that tonight. they have almost six hours left. that's enough time to do what you want them to do over the next three weeks. >> it's hard for me to blame the republican party when 80% of my colleagues are ready to fund the department for three weeks and 99% of the democrats are refusing. eventually this desire by republicans in the house to use dhs funding to repeal the order is not the right path to take in my view for the country or the party. >> you basically, whether tonight or within the next three weeks, you want your republican friends to do what you have done and pass a clean bill? >> yes. i want the democrats tonight to help speaker boehner not to shut down dhs in about five hours. then i hope my colleagues in the house will abandon this desire to shut down dhs as a way to repeal the executive order. i don't think it's going to work. we don't have the votes in the senate. let the court act. >> we have more to talk about including the enormous terror threats that are out there right now. plus an assassination in the streets of moscow. a leading opposition leader. it's shocking news. stand by. much more with the republican senator right after this. wvo: caring for someone with alzheimer's means i am a lot of things. i am his guardian. i am his voice. so i asked about adding once-daily namenda xr to his current treatment for moderate to severe alzheimer's. it works 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militants. but now, a turn around in u.s. military thinking about when these iraqi troops will be ready to begin their largest combat operation, trying to retake mosul, iraq's second largest city from isis control. >> we haven't laid a date certain down here at the pentagon. >> reporter: days ago, a u.s. military official ordered to brief journalists said the battle could begin in april. insis insis tent there's no change from ash carter. >> there have been assessments literally all over the calendar. i get that. i'm not blaming the media on this. >> reporter: before any fight for motionsul begins the u.s. military needs to step up efforts. an official tells cnn, 5,000 iraqi troops will be trained by the u.s. in the next two weeks. battle for mosul needs more than 20,000. more overhead surveillance is essential to find precise locations of isis' growing defenses around the city and the location of civilians. the defense secretary may have to recommend a small number of u.s. ground forces to help target those isis positions. but the top u.s. intelligence officer expressing deep doubt about the iraqi military's abilities even after months of u.s. help. >> they have challenges clearly with command and control, with leadership logistics. so they have a whole range of issues there that need to be attended to. >> reporter: in fact they are now estimating that the iraqi military might need six to eight to nine months before that entire force would be ready for combat operations across the country. it makes one realize now while there -- why there's a good deal of doubt that they can move against mosul in the coming weeks. >> it's interesting. i wonder how isis will react to this. they clearly monitor what's going on here in the united states. barbara, thank you very much. let's get back to senator lindsey graham, a key member of the senate armed services committee. what's going on over here? they brief reporters, u.s. military central command last week get ready for an offensive starting in ing ining in april or may. not so fast. what happen snz. >> i welcome the reconsideration because i had doubts. the iraqi government and people are demanding that mosul be liberated. put yourself in the shoes of the defense minister in iraq who is a sunni from mosul. he wants his town liberated from isil isil. that's a need and a desire. but the capacity doesn't exist. this iraqi security force is basically a shia army. the army has been basically fractured. if you go into mosul ill prepared could you have a war between the iraqi security forces and sunni tribes in mosul, not just isil unless we're in the mix. the way to fix this is to have a larger american ground component to make sure the iraqi security forces have the capacity to win. >> have ii have limited confidence in the iraqi military. they laid down weapons and ran away. >> because the iraqi security forces became a shia army and the shia iraqi security forces were not going to die in sunni land mosul. so the army became sectarian. not only is it numbers you have to generate you have to get a functioning army that would be welcome by people in mosul. it has to be a more iraqi army less of a shia army. we're aways away from there. there's no substitute for a significant american support element to be successful. that's where i blame president obama. he is trying to do this on the cheap. >> this guy mohammed emwazi he was watched by british surveillance for years. he wound up working with isis in syria and beheading all these people on videotape. was there a major intelligence or national security blunder some place in the u.k. that allows this guy to slip out? >> i don't know if it's a blunder. all the people who did the paris attack were on watch list. we have had a lot of people resort to terrorism that we had on watch list. this was just one guy. here is what i worry about the most. the number of foreign fighters going to iraq and syria with western passports are overwhelming our ability to track them. we're losing control of this problem. the longer it tables tokes to degrade and destroy isil the larger we could get hit here. breaking news boris nemtsov shot and killed on streets of moscow. he was worried about his safety in recent interviews. the big scheme of things russia's relations with the u.s., europeans right now awful because of ukraine. >> this is putin's russia. every institution of democracy has been destroyed. opposition voices are silenced. in this case murdered. he is an autocratic dictator. he is getting away with dismembering his name at the ukraine. our response to putin has not created enough cost because he is not changing his behavior. this is a symptom of what happens in a police state. we have to understand who we're dealing with. he will continue to do these things until the cost gets too high. >> we don't know who killed boris nemtsov, but you are blaming putin. >> when you oppose the government bad things happen to you. so we know the 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>> good question. i think that we don't know if that's an extension of this worldwide effort to kill anybody that's not on the side of isis or if it's a different group behind this. we have used the phrase in this country, if you're not with us you are against us. they mean that. they say it and mean it. if you are not with us we will kill you. and they do. >> and there's the other very disturbing story, bob baer that we're following out of canada. authorities are looking for four teenagers who actually may have flown out of canada to turkey to cross into syria to join up with isis. there are reports some of the kids may have been radicalized by classes being taught at their local community college. obviously, that's a very disturbing development. give us your nal sis. when i heard that, i said could that be happening here in the united states as well? >> you have to look at it this way. these people are not -- the teachers and mosques aren't necessarily recruiting to go to syria. what they are doing is they are posing the problem that islam is under attack and that all true muslims will defend it. and interpret it as you will. for teenagers who don't understand the rest of it, for hem it them it means go fight for isis or attacks in the united states. so it makes it very difficult for law enforcement to pinpoint these recruiters because they are saying all good muslims will defend islam at this point. it's time for jihad. that in itself is not a criminal message of any sort. trying to police this up is really really hard. >> guys, i want you to stand by. awful, awful news across the board. to find out more about the escalating battle against isis specifically what you can do to help protect iraqi children affected by the violence visit cnn.com/impact. more breaking news ahead, including details of the british man identified as jihadi john. how did he join isis despite being watched by british authorities for more than five years? 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north and south korea should be unified. his last name, kim, very common korean last name. the pyongyang news agency say he was post-south korean military exercises that got under way this week. we have a reporter in seoul. paula hancocks. >> reporter: we had a briefing in the last couple of minutes and they said this happened just over two hours ago at 7:42 a.m. local time. it was a breakfast meeting and according to police this happened just as ambassador lippert was about to start eating. the attacker was sitting at the table next to him. now, this briefing this morning was actually for reunification of the two koreas. it was a group pushing for this and this attacker was a member of this group. so he's not an unknown. we know that just as the ambassador was about to start eating he attacked him with a small knife. earlier, it was a razor blade. police have corrected that. they say he's a man in his 50s. local media saying he does have a previous criminal record but he was able to be within that breakfast meeting and that close to the ambassador. rushed to the hospital. >> sorry, do we know much about the security surrounding the ambassador? what's it typically like at an event like this? >> reporter: well the police have told us about security here. they said there was 25 police officers outside the event. this was an art center where this happened and they said there were no special requests from the u.s. embassy as the ambassador was there but they knew this echbt was happening and they were able to detain this man quickly because they had police inside as well but just looking from my own personal point of view a couple of weeks ago i went to din we are ambassadors and security in this country is not particularly tight. i was able to walk in without my bag being searched without a metal detector and then was actually sitting next to the italian ambassador. so security here even though this is a country which is technically at war with north korea, it is considered a very safe country. a breakfast event downtown seoul is not considered to be a high-risk area for any ambassador even the u.s. ambassador. people here even members of the public, would have more access to ambassadors than other conflict zones. where he is >> i think i interrupted you, but the ambassador in the video, we see him basically holding up a tissue or something to his face to stop the bleeding. he was taken to the hospital obviously. >> reporter: that's right. yes. police say he was attacked on his right cheek and his hand you can see him holding a tissue to his cheek. the embassy spokesman said though obviously it's not life-threatening. he is in a stable condition and you can see him being guided to a car, but he is walking and he is talking at that point as well so they are hoping these injuries are not particularly severe but obviously everyone is quite shocked here. it's the first time a u.s. ambassador to seoul has been attacked. we have seen attacks like this in the past though. remember president parker hey back in 2006 when she was campaigning was actually attacked with a knife herself as well. she had a slash across her cheek at a public event. which just shows that the people are able to get close to those in power, so much closer than other countries. >> paula hancocks shocking. thank you. chris served during the bush administration and joins us from seoul. ambassador hill it's disturbing to see this. what was your initial reaction to the attack on lippert, were you surprised someone was able to get that close? >> it's shocking. this is considered a safe place. when i was ambassador i had security but i was able to walk outside by myself and occasionally walk home from the embassy. it's a very low-security environment and certainly i've been in many of those breakfasts. it was just across the street from the embassy. this is not something one normally associates with a need for high security. >> is an event like this obviously, don't have to go into security details on something like this but would have security personnel with you, close protection? >> again, i can't speak to the current situation, but what would normally happen in a country like this and in fact happened when i was here is you were assigned a security person from the korean government. basically that person would kind of make sure you could get to your seat and then, you know strange people come up to you. i don't know the details of what happened this morning but normally you'd have someone. in addition i think whenever the ambassador goes somewhere, there would be a discussion between the embassy and the event organizers to see what kind of security arrangements they have and normally the koreans are pretty well buttoned up and suggested this morning, quite a few police outside and normally within the event itself, there would be some security people but in this case it seemed to be remarkable that a member or person seated for the breakfast, actually. >> it's interesting. you say the security person is assigned by the south korea government. you didn't have someone doing close protection on you? >> it varies. sometimes in iraq you have a small army accompany you and they're all american but in a country like this you know, according to the vienna convention it's the host country that's responsible for the security of embassies and ambassadors. so in any embassy, you'll have marine guards on the inside but the outside, host security people assigned to a vip, to the ambassador to make sure nothing happens. but unless there's some unusual circumstance such as those that prevail in a place like iraq you would not have a u.s. security person going around with you. >> the report that the attacker said something about north and south not being unified, maybe opposed in joint u.s./south korea exercises recently gone under way. maybe suggest a political mindset, perhaps this person is maybe disturbed in some level but how contentious is this an issue in seoul these days? >> obviously, it is contentious. we're in the annual -- this is the month of the year where there are these annual exercises that have gone on for decades. so it's not unusual but it's contentious and brings about the debate between south koreans who feel there ought to be less of this and some who feel comfortable with the idea u.s. troops are here to exercise what are really obligations in terms of protecting south korea in the event of a war. so these things get discussed but the notion that they would spill in is extremely unusual notion and therefore, i think we'll have to wait for the investigation. but i think there's something in this guy's head that probably needs to be examined. >> finally, just an incident like this does this then change, obviously as you said there's an investigation but does it change the thinking on the part of u.s. officials, would they then kind of relook at their security situation and whether or not they need to up that in terms of close protection of the ambassador? >> oh i'm sure there will be a discussion in the embassy about that sort of an assessment on what they have to do. obviously you're sitting at a breakfast and someone from the neighboring table stands up with a knife and attacks you, that's pretty unusual. i've never heard of that. so that has to be looked at and what the security was, i don't know what the outcome would be. whether there would try to be more security whether they try to rope off the ambassador's table in the future. who knows what they try to do but obviously have to look at this in terms of lessons learned and figure out what to do in the next such circumstance. >> it's obviously very disturbing incident. ambassador hill thank you so much. joining us on the phone is cnn's finest graduate, mike jinoy at cnn's china institute and secret service agent dan bongino and lieutenant colonel james reese, a retired force member. let's start with you, james. to do that you can't be more than arm's length from your victim. it's a personal attack. the amount of security ambassador travels with doesn't protect against that kind of vulnerability it seems like in this case. >> you're right. my concern is that if the ambassador represents the president of the united states in every country, he is and it is. diplomatic security has this way each day on whether they protect or not. the man who represents president of the united states i got to believe has got to have a close protection officer or an agent in charge that's right there within arms reach if something happens. the ambassador or block that threat coming from the ambassador. so i think, really diplomat security has to take a hard look at how they're going to do these in other countries around the world, even those we consider to be low risk. >> dan, particularly given the threat from north korea, the level of tension with north korea, and north korea in the past has sent agents into south korea to kidnap people and the like. without presidential level security though there's really no way to prevent something, somebody getting close to another person. is there? >> there's not. there's always a balance here between access and security. and those security is never going to be absolute. it's going to be relative. but the guest who just spoke, i agree with his assessment there. i think we have to look at countries we traditionally consider safe. you know france, south korea. we're going to have to reconsider having an ambassador there on his own without a diplomatic representative. i think that's a really poor decision. the profile of the country alone with the ambassador creates a threat profile significant enough to warrant or at least one agent. >> mike the fact that this guy reportedly attacked the ambassador at least vocally saying something about joint military drills between south korea and the united states disturbed in other ways is that i mean i ask the ambassador hill about this a little bit, how controversial is sentiment is that there? how controversial are these exercises these days? >> the exercises are a controversy. there is a substantial though clearly a minority view in south korea among people on the left who are critical some of whom open in north korea. and the kind of emotional issue, emotionally charged issue, division of the korean peninsula just gone off since the korean war and there are people on the left in the south and south korea who blame the united states for the division. so things feelings get stirred up this time of year. the north koreans test fired short range missile and protest the military exercise. a few years ago, tensions reached the point there were real fears there might be some kind of army conflict. so that's the atmosphere and context in which this person took the action he did. indicating he was also involved in some kind of attack on the japanese ambassador a few years ago. so this is something that people feel deeply about and if you're troubled to begin with it can send you over the top. >> stay with us. and the panel. we'll take a quick break, come back and have more on this. the ambassador medical condition we're getting. fact. fast-acting advil is designed with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core technology stopping headaches and other tough pain. fast. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil. most of the products we all buy are transported on container ships. before a truck delivers it to your store, a container ship delivered it to that truck. here in san diego, we're building the first one ever to run on natural gas. ships this big running this clean will be much better for the environment. we're proud to be a part of that. you can't predict the market. but at t. rowe price we've helped guide our clients through good times and bad. our experienced investment professionals are one reason over 85% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper averages. so in a variety of markets we can help you feel confident. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. police have a suspect in custody, dining with the ambassador. treated for non-life-threatening injuries. back to paula hancocks in seoul. what have you learned? >> reporter: well, anderson we know straight off of this attack the ambassador was taken to a local hospital just about half an hour ago. we understand he was transferred to a larger hospital here in seoul. we're being told by that hospital he is currently in surgery. they don't have details of his condition at this point. they said they're waiting for the end of the surgery to give us any kind of information. and we also know from police that the attacker himself was likely injured. we understand he had a fracture. they're not saying exactly where that fracture was but at this point it's not clear if he's being treated. we know he's being questioned anderson. >> paula, thank you very much. i want to bring in barbara starr, a friend of the ambassador. she joins us now. you know ambassador lippert well. what can you tell us about him? you say he's a former navy seal? >> reporter: actually he's a reservist. he was assigned to a navy seal unit at one point and like most of the press corps with mark lippert, he was a figure here in the pentagon hallways. he served as chief of staff to former defense secretary chuck hagel. he served in a number of positions working asia policy. this was his expertise. he had been so excited about going off and on his facebook page over the last several weeks after he arrived, some of the pictures heartwarming. he and his wife just had a baby. they have a newborn baby just several weeks old and he posted a lot of pictures of himself walking around seoul relatively alone with his rather large basset hound and many south korean children coming up to him and really likes to get out and about and i don't think you can emphasize the asia poets. is his expertise and very excited about being ambassador there. >> obviously whether or not he walk around. south korea was as well. >> reporter: the top u.s. military official in south korea briefed a short time ago about the incident. darrell right now in charge of running these u.s./south korean military drills. these are fairly routine exercises, but of course it has set off a lot of rhetoric in north korea which is claiming of course that all of these drills are a precursor to an invasion of the north. general skaproti notifying about these exercises and that they are purely defensive in nature for the u.s. and south korea to exercise their ability to operate in the event of a contingency emergency without keeping stability on the peninsula. this incident very disturbing obviously. >> barbara starr, appreciate the update. thanks. back with mike chinoy and james reese. the timing with this military drill under way as barbara starr just said those are not popular in north korea. it certainly seems like security should be a little stronger during contentious events in the region and again, north korea has sent, you know spies, has sent operatives into south korea to kidnap people in the past to attack people. >> yeah. i wish i could tell you i'm surprised but i'm not having spent 17 years of my life in law enforcement, 12 in the security arena with the secret service. the assets are limited. i can't say that enough. it pains me to say that on cable news but maybe it will spur someone to do something about it. outside the president and vice president, i got to sound the alarm a bit. the security apparatus in the country around the foreign dignitaries and people with really significant profiles wrapping themselves in our flag doing our business overseas is just not adequate. it's just not there. i wish i could tell you something different. >> colonel reese, how big, i mean it's always a balance. and something like this this man represents the united states. he wants to be able to move relatively freely. he wants to be able to interact with people in a natural way. he wants to be able to shake hands and look people in the eye. at the same time there's the security consideration. so it's a balance, i guess, in moving forward from here. >> anderson it is. you hit it right. no one wants to have a close security detail around them. you've been in those positions before. they're not a lot of fun. bottom line is this: a gentleman like that represents the united states of america and the propaganda anyone could get by attacking an ambassador a high government official a propaganda about that enough showing the strong america doesn't have a security sense about it to protect their ambassadors abroad. it's not good. again, ambassadors don't want it. been around it my whole life also but it's something we have to do and it's become part of the puzzle they have to deal with though. >> mike in north korea in the past and there's no evidence north korea is any way involved in this whatsoever but in the past they have sent operatives down into south korea, haven't they? they've kidnapped people and brought them back across the border. >> the north korea staged a number of operations in south korea including in the late 1950s and assassinate the father of the current president of south korea but i think it's very clear at this point it's not at all like something north korea would be involved in. this guy is a lone operator. >> i'm not suggesting there's north korean involvement but in terms of a security profile and the security picture. i would imagine that is something that has to be taken into account. >> there's no question. and in fact there is a lot of security around the presidential presidents in seoul but across the street in the american embassy is a morning breakfast to discuss issues related to the unification to the koreas so it's not something where you would think this kind of thing would happen. and ambassador lippert has been notably, even by the standards of other american ambassadors, very accessible. out and walking. he even set up a profile for his dog, as barbara starr mentioned. so he's out from other ambassadors but i remember when i was working for cnn. i was doing a live interview with an american ambassador and somebody, a south korean tried to attack him but our driver was trained in martial arts and then continued. but these things happen. they get carried away. >> a good driver to have there, mike chinoy. dan bongino as well. colonel reese. since details are unfolding, we'll keep you updated throughout the hour. anything new on whether the ambassador gets out of surgery. up next the pattern of police racism and many protesters in ferguson were marching about. the results of a justice department investigation. so,as my personal financial psychic, i'm sure you know what this meeting is about. yes, a raise. i'm letting you go. i knew that. you see, this is my amerivest managed... balances. no. portfolio. and if doesn't perform well for two consecutive gold. quarters. quarters...yup. then amerivest gives me back their advisory... stocks. fees. fees. fees for those quarters. yeah. so, i'm confident i'm in good hands. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this. sir, we're going to need you on the runway later. don't let a severe cold hold you back. get theraflu... ...with the power of three medicines to take on your worst pain and fever, cough and nasal congestion. it breaks you free from your toughest cold and flu symptoms. theraflu. serious power. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. more breaking news tonight and three e-mails to tell you about. we don't have the actual screen shots of the e-mails though presumably the u.s. justice department does. they had the descriptions. april 2011 the first, shows president obama has a chimpanzee and second of june of that year describes a man seeking welfare for his dog because their, quote, dog has no clue who their daddies are. the third e-mail shows a bare-chested group of dancing women apparently in africa reading michelle obama's high school reunion. all three circulated among members of the police department and members in ferguson, missouri, including supervisors. a searing report. 102 pages long. a pattern of racism in the all-white ferguson police department and a practice of treating citizens mainly african-american citizens targeted to be cited fined and threatened and jail time if they do not pay up. a community where authorities consistently approach law enforcement, not as a means for protecting of safety but as a way to generate revenue where policing and municipal court practices were found to be disproportionately harmful to residents. 93% of arrests were african-american and 90% of vie viations. significantly today, the justice department did not find any basis for federal target against officer darren wilson who since left the force. however, his boss a police chief, the mayor of ferguson still on the job. late today, the mayor spoke out. sara sidner joining us in ferguson from more. what did the mayor have to say? >> >> reporter: the mayor talked about the fact there were problems with the department. of course obviously the d.o.j. putting owl thatall that information out there to the public. he was there by himself, not the police chief, not the city manager but talked about the fact they're going to do things about the problems. he talked about the fact they're going to change the structure in the courts. cap the revenue they get from things like fees and stop fining people for not showing up to court. all things that have really frustrated this community but the most concrete thing that we heard today in that press conference would have to do with the racist e-mails and what those employees will now face. listen up. here's what the mayor had to say. >> this type of behavior will not be tolerated in the ferguson police department or any department. immediately upon leaving that meeting, three individuals were placed on administrative leave pending an investigation. one has since been terminated. >> i got to say, sara it's a little bit late for the mayor to sudden now be shocked there's racism in ferguson missouri when we were there over the summer i believe it was and interviewed him. he was saying there is no racial issue, there was no racial issue in the police department in the community at large. it's amazing now to hear him as if the veil has been lifted from his eyes. >> reporter: well to be fair about a month after that initial stuff in august all that unrest in august a month after i talked about that very same thing because he did come utout and say, i was wrong. i now see it. i didn't realize people were so upset about the things happening including these fees including this ticketing. but we're seeing a very very scathing report. there's knowledge of the investigation. two people and understand they're not going to survive this investigation. they are not going to be working for the department officers one works inside the department and not an officer. there's new information exclusive to cnn but as you can tell there is a lot of books here. very frustrated very, very frustrated with that press conference because nobody got to answer any questions, ask any questions. they got a statement and then they left. >> the chief of police did he show up? did the chief of police show up to the press conference. >> reporter: no. the city manager wasn't there. those are the two that are paid to do their jobs. the mayor gets something like a few hundred dollars a month to do his job. those other two positions are paid positions and people wanted to hear from them. they help run the city too, especially the police chief. because the dmj looking very heavily at the police department. not a word. not a word to us. not a word to anyone else either. anderson? >> we'll see whether there's transparency in the police department. general counsel to the st. louis police association and legal analyst and former prosecutor sunny hostin and charles blow. sunny, these e-mails. these racist e-mails. what do you make of them? >> i think i'm just as shocked as everyone else but more shocked at the mayor's reaction. i mean firing three employees that sent some e-mails, okay. i understand that that may be a start, perhaps scratching the surface, but we're talking about a pattern and practice of systemic racism found by the justice department after reviewing over 35,000 pages of documents and investigating this case. and so, you know i found it -- >> it's not just three. >> it's not just three people. i found it woefully inadequate. why did we not hear an apology, an acceptance of the doj recommendations? to me i just feel like leadership there has to be a leadership change and the mayor shouldn't be there. i don't think chief jackson should be there, and i suspect that after the attorney general said these are concrete steps that are going to be taken and everything is on the table, there has to be accountability and i think that accountability starts at the leadership. >> charles n in this report they talked about an african-american in his apartment, pulled the guy out by force and said you don't have a reason to lock me up the officer responds with the n word and says i can find something to lock you up on and a number of people in this report who used racial epithets and things like that. reading this, are you surprised? >> it's not about surprised but the racial epithets the racially charged e-mail you can get rid of those. get rid of that person. the bigger part is the systemic part of it the architecture of authority that's used as an instrument of oppression because it is not about hurt feelings. this is about poor people to a large degree many of them african-american people who are getting the short end of a stick and this is real money, right? if you're running basically a prison if you stack up so many fines on people who cannot pay them and then they get a warrant, a summons and report to jail. that's a person now been taken out of a family money the family cannot use and every time someone makes the argument about people on welfare, every time we engage in these sorts of practices, they take money away from people real money real people need. they were talking about in that record about sales taxes going down. well sales taxes are going to go down. these things are feeding on each other. if you take money out of people's pockets that they could be spending on goods and services and charge it to them in fees it's going into your department. of course the sales taxes are going down because there's a limited amount of money. i want people to really understand that. >> police shouldn't be about financial. >> it's public service. >> i want to bring neil back in here. first of all, the justice department decided not to pursue federal civil rights charges against darren wilson. he was your client. i know you spoke to him today. what did he have to say to that and i wanted your take on what the justice department found, this report is scathing. >> let me start with darren. of course he's relieved and glad that it's over. it's been a very long road for him and, again, the 86 page report that was prepared by the justice department is a very report. we had to be careful not to reach any conclusions or opinions and we've seen it all. it's sitting out in great detail the reasons why. we're glad for that. i wanted to approach this with the same vigor they claimed they were going to do this investigation. i think that the justice department has just like in 102 page report, has a duty to make sure people understand why they made the decisions they made regarding darren wilson and i think that has to be clear because if we're going to have confidence in the justice department's decision then you have to really explain it to people. even people who don't want to listen. you have to make that clear, so i'm glad. in terms of the second report you know again, i've looked at that. i've read it. it's a terrible indictment of the situation. now, again, i don't know the facts. it's not a department i represent but it speaks to the larger problems we have and i've been talking about for at least several months. we have to talk about race and policing. >> i guess, we've got to go because we did so much breaking news on the attack with the ambassador but now, all the talk about transparency in the police department for the chief of police not to show up to the press conference and, you know -- >> it's remarkable. >> say, you know what we've got a problem or just these people whatever it is but tonight leave this mayor who's a part-time guy, i got to say, that's -- >> it's remarkable people say we don't know all the facts. just look at the over 100 page document. i think we know a lot of the facts. >> what about the chief of police was it surprising he didn't even show up? >> it was, anderson and today, then fire three people. and gee, we just found out today. i don't know all the facts. we don't know all the facts. even the justice report that has 100 pages long and a lot is anecdotal. >> a lot of facts too, neil. >> it's unavoidable and today they would decide we'll fire three people? it seems like a knee jerk reaction too and a lot of explainsing explaining has to be done. neil, appreciate it. charles blow and sunny hostin. the carnage and mayhem after the boston marathon bombings two years ago. making tourniquets out of anything they can find. this was shown in court today. ready for another reason to switch to t-mobile? get america's best unlimited 4g lte family plan. two lines of unlimited 4g lte data for just $100 a month. stuck in a contract? don't get trapped by the other guys. t-mobile will break you free. we'll buy out your contract up to $650 per line. so don't wait, get americas best unlimited 4g lte family plan with two lines for just $100. switch to t-mobile today. um... i...i think we can make it, right? 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alexandra field is working that angle. >> reporter: first, suspect one and suspect two. almost immediately after questioned whether there were more involved. the reason for the doubts? the bombs. court documents revealed questions from the beginning about whether tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev were capable of making them. these sophisticated devices would have been difficult to fabricate. searches of the tsarnaev's sens and three locations associated with them yielded virtually no traces of black powder. of the two remote control detonators used during the marathon bombings only one was recovered and nearly two years later, the doubts still linger. >> these were two relatively sophisticated devices that went off almost simultaneously. had a very short delay. it would be my opinion that they had somebody who was more of a skilled bomb maker, an engineer, if you will. saying these are the stepping you need to go through. >> reporter: joedzhokhar tsarnaev said he and his brother built from the inspire magazine. say explosives made with improvised fuses from christmas lights and remote control parts. not impossible but hard to get right without testing and the government never said where the bombs were made or if there's evidence of they tested others. >> that's a big gap in the evidentiary case. do police believe it's possible somebody helped these brothers build the bomb? in absence of any proof they had the capability to do it three or five others. >> reporter: but who? nobody named as a coconspirator. tie to militants. the older tsarnaevs spent six months in russia. authorities questioned how much exposure he may have had to radicals and whether he could have received training there. it's not clear if either side will suggest there may have been a third party involved in the attack. but the defense will try to pin the blame on others. >> the defense strategy is going to be to create enough doubt within the juror's mind of dzhokhar's sort of mental state leading into this. the idea that there might be some evil hand out there telling dzhokhar what to do whether it's his brother or someone who's a bomb maker fits nicely into that narrative. >> reporter: the trial centers on how the jury will see number two, painting the portrait of a cruel coconspirator, an equal partner in hideous crimes. spewing the rhetoric of al qaeda, the man who planned to kill and did. but the defense will draw dzhokhar in the mastermind older brother. younger, struggling in school abandoned by his parents. an easy victim of deep manipulation from suspect number one. >> alexandra field joins us now. the defense said there's no doubt the brothers placed the bombs and pushing more blame on the older brother. >> reporter: absolutely anderson. and that's the clear strategy. the prosecution doesn't really have to get into who built this bomb or where it was built. they have to prove dzhokhar's role and the crime he's accused of and the defense is frankly conceded those points so the defense has to focus on the sentencing phase of this trial. the death penalty is on the table. so their strategy is that tamerlan was the mastermind. they believe that could create sympathy for dzhokhar and have to see if that sympathy was enough to spare dzhokhar his life when it comes to the jury here anderson. >> try to build sympathy for this guy. okay. boris nemtsov, gunned down in moscow. cnn's anthony bourdain spoke with him last year and his first interview since mr. nemtsov was killed. ♪ its effects on society really came about because, not because i was selfish and wanted one for myself, which i did. its because i had, had a passion. my whole life i wanted to teach myself to build computers. i wanted to build these things for free. i just wanted to do it for the world and you know when you want something, that's what you do the best. ♪ ♪ the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. whether you need a warm up before the big race... or a healthy start before the big meeting there's a choice hotel that's waiting for you. this spring, choose choice twice, get a night at no price at 1,500 hotels. book now at choicehotels.com mourners gathered to remember boris nemtsov after he was gunned down near the kremlin. nemtsov was one of the most outspoken critics of vlad bheerimir putin. last year anthony bourdain spoke with nemtsov about politics, corruption and about vladimir putin. it was exchange over dinner. bourdain asked if he was afraid of getting killed. take a look. >> given the worrying connection between angering vladimir putin and bad things happening, are you concerned? >> me? >> yeah. >> about myself? >> yeah you're a pain in the ass. >> i am concerned generally. generally. i want to tell my family how much more concerned than me. because if you're concerned every minute that's the best way to be killed. >> why can't you just like everybody else? why do you have to be -- why make life difficult for yourself? >> this is good question. first, i am well known guy. and this is a safety because if this is happens to me it will be a scandal not only here but throughout the world. >> anthony bourdain joins now. he thought his notoriety would protect him. and and he was wrong. >> he didn't seem concerned when i had dinner with him. i think he really enjoyed being who he was. he was fully aware of the danger of the situation in general and i think he was not surprised by the corruption and the extent of the corruption going on around him, but i, you heard what he said. i think he believed his stature, his position his international profile would protect him. >> i talked to gary kasparov a few days ago and described him as a larger than life character. >> handsome cocky, sure of himself, incredibly smart guy, funny. a dangerous man to, you know people who he's criticizing. >> do you have any doubt that vladimir putin was behind this either directly or -- >> nemtsov maintains that it is a criminal culture, essentially. he says elsewhere in the interview, the state, the scandinavians have a problem with the culture. it is the way business is done. he insists that it is essentially a criminal enterprise. any criminal enterprise i know of if you worked for a new york crime family and you shot somebody and left them on the front room of the boss without his ok bad things would probably happen to you. i put it to nemtsov at one point. there's no mystery. somebody poisoned this opponent of a loud critic of putin in central london with radioactive pulonium. an extremely expensive radioactive substance was introduced to this man. >> just as with nemtsov, he could have been killed in a dark alley somewhere near his house. >> right. >> he was shot inside of the kremlin. >> i think the state of mind is whoever did this wants everyone to know assumes knows and is pretty sure that no one will do anything about it and i also think they're right. >> i want to play something else he said about other putin critics who either ended up in jail or were killed. >> i don't think you need to be a conspiracy theorist to say they want everyone to know who done it. everybody understands and everybody is meant to understand. >> everybody understands. everybody understands in this country. >> he didn't seem to have a sense of humor about it all, which i guess in that situation, what else do you do? >> you are fully aware of the intricate details of corruption so enormous so outrageous so blatant day after day after day. you better have a sense of humor or you go mad and he did have a sense of humor. >> is it strange to have met this guy? i talk to you, you talked to a journalist in iran who is now in captivity and now nemtsov. is it? >> there was a sense of he made you believe he was untouchable. our dinner was supposed to be one of the best restaurants in moscow. we had it arranged in advance but when the chef owner found out that nemtsov was coming he immediately said no way. i don't want these guys radioactive, anything to do don't want to be seen with him or bad things might happen to me. he made me believe that he would live forever. he had that assurance, sense of humor. he seemed to not be worried in such a way that he made you believe it too. >> anthony bourdain thanks very much. stay tuned for anthony bourdain's parts unknown. it starts at the top of the hour on cnn. the latest on the attack in south korea. paula han cox is in seoul monitoring the developments. the bed reacts to your body. it hugs you. it's really cool to the touch. this zips off so i can wash it-yes, please. 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a trail of tragedy across rural missouri. a gunman kills seven people. authorities still don't know why. we will go there live. good afternoon. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. some breaking news right now on our politics lead. amid what seems like a rash of terrorist threats, in minutes u.s. lawmakers will vote on funding for the department of homeland security, funding that will dictate whether or not thousands of workers, people charged with keeping you and me safe will be put on furlough. the deadline is midnight. we will bring you the results of that vote this hour. but let's shift to the world lead. a horrifying story out of bangladesh. islamic extremists swore they would murder a blogger if he ever returned to that country and today a group of attackers delivered on that threat. they hacked him to death with machetes as his wife looked on. roy often spoke out for secular freedom and against extremism of any kind the same kind of written protests that motivated warped terrorists in france to gun down cartoonists at the offices of "charlie hebdo." hours ago the u.s. state department condemned roy's murder. >> he was taken from us in a shocking act of violence. this was not just an attack against a person but a cowardly assault on the universal principles enshrined in bangladesh's constitution and the country's proud tradition of free intellectual and religious discourse. >> let's go to cnn's reporter in new delhi, india. people protesting the murder say authorities have 24 hours to arrest this man. the u.s. state department seems to think roy was killed because of his beliefs, because of what he stood for, his blogs. have police there identified any suspects at all? have they come up with a motive for this absolutely brutal killing? >> reporter: the motive was clearly to shut this man up. police are saying that their list of suspects begins with roy's facebook page. about a year ago, roy wrote a book that was called "the virus of faith" and that book was launched at the book fair in bangladesh. fast forward one year and once again roy was at the book fair. he walks out and is assassinated. on his facebook post one year ago, he had all of these death threats from people who were very unhappy with his book. one of those death threats said that roy was based in america and that's why they couldn't get to him but they would get him when he came to bangladesh. it looks like that's come true. that's what bangladeshi police will be looking out for. >> so what's in this book? i think a lot of people watching are not familiar necessarily with roy, with his blog with his book. what was he writing about that would have offended anybody? >> reporter: well he was a critic of islam. on the one hand this is a guy who grew up a muslim in bangladesh, but he really saw a sort of crisis right at the heart of islam. he sort of believes that the very teachings of the koran if interpreted in the exact way that they are written, can lead to you know people enacting certain things that are incredibly violent. and he writes very candidly about that in his essays and in his book. clearly, he really upset a lot of people in bangladesh and remember bangladesh is about 90% muslim. so a lot of people there are very upset with his kinds of writings even though he really sort of came across as a very secular minded person. he recently wrote about the attack in paris on "charlie hebdo" saying that that was, you know just a form of religious extremism that needed to stop. a few weeks later, he's assassinated. >> in an assassination that looks very much similar to the "charlie hebdo" killings in some way. i also want to ask you, roy's wife not only did she watch her husband die in this brutal fashion, but the assailants also left her in critical condition. do you have any update on how she's doing, if she's expected to survive? >> reporter: yeah, we do. she made it to the hospital alive. she was severely wounded. remember this was a machete attack on both of them. it seems like roy was the main target and the attackers then ran away. she is injured. we know that she has a severed finger but we are told by bangladeshi police that they expect her to survive and maybe when she's able to talk about this incident maybe she will be able to identify some of those attackers. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. let's bring in cnn chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. is the obama administration putting any pressure on the government of bangladesh to find these killers? they killed an american. >> well the state department has offered to give help if they have been asked. it would be standard since an american citizen has been killed here for u.s. law enforcement to get involved the fbi, et cetera. but i'm told this is a positive relationship between the u.s. and bangladesh particularly on extremism issues. in fact there's a partnership program between two cities specifically on countering violent extremism. it's a good relationship not one where you would need to put undue pressure to chase the killers down. >> good to know. let's turn to the other top story today, the isis butcher identified as jihadi john. long before isis was even born he had connections to the terrorist group al shabab. he ran with a crowd of extremists and british intelligence knew about him and had talked to him, interrogated him but somehow he managed to slip off their radar. this also happened in france with the terrorists who carried out the "charlie hebdo" killings. are the british acknowledging as the french did that they screwed up? >> they are not acknowledging. there are certainly very hard questions being asked there both from uk lawmakers, but also by many uk publications because it was a number of years that they knew about him going back to 2009. they questioned him multiple times over those years. they even reportedly tried to recruit him as an informant. he refused but they possibly missed signals of what he would eventually become. >> this knife -- >> reporter: to the outside world, his face is always obscured by his now familiar black mask. but new details show that mohammad emwazi, the terrorist known as jihadi john was a familiar face to british authorities for more than five years. the scrutiny began in 2009 when emwazi was detained in tanzania on suspicions he intended to travel to somalia to join the al qaeda linked al shabab. both british and dutch investigators interviewed him, say friends, and his then fiancee. >> there were people in west london from the late 2000s onward who got very excited about the conflict in somalia. some of them went out there to fight and some rose up to senior positions within al shabab. emwazi seems to know some of these people. >> reporter: authorities detained him again in 2010 detaining him from returning to his birthplace kuwait. i had a job waiting for me and marriage to get started, emwazi wrote in a june 2010 e-mail to the muslim advocacy group cage. in 2011 british court documents obtained by the bbc claim that emwazi associated with members of an islamic extremist group that funneled money, fighters and equipment to somalia. emwazi was never charged with a crime. today, british prime minister david cameron defended britain's domestic intelligence service, the mi-5. >> in my almost five years experience of prime minister i think they are incredibly impressive hard-working dedicated, courageous and effective at protecting our country. all of the time they are having to make incredibly difficult judges. >> reporter: they make those judgements in the face of daunting numbers. britain has thousands of suspected jihadis and jihadi sympathizers. a senior british diplomat tells cnn that the profile of jihadi recruits has expanded to include rich and poor educated and uneducated and more and more, men and women. emwazi's case has an alarming parallel to the attacks in paris. the gunman who stormed the magazine "charlie hebdo," the kouachi brothers have been known to french security services for years and put on then taken off surveillance only months before their deadly rampage. british authorities lost track of emwazi in 2013 when after changing his name he was stopped again trying to travel to his birthplace in kuwait. it was several months later that police determined he had indeed traveled to syria and it was in august last year that he first appeared in his first of many sadly isis videos. >> jim sciutto, thank you. today, law enforcement said we are entering an even more potentially dangerous era of attacks at home. cnn justice correspondent pamela brown just sat down with the u.s. attorney general eric holder. he is preoccupied by this threat especially of lone wolves. >> that's right. one of the questions i wanted to ask him was about mohammad emwazi the isis recruit known as jihadi john. holder wouldn't confirm his name but vowed to spare no resource to find anyone who harms americans. >> good afternoon. >> reporter: attorney general eric holder is vowing to bring to justice at any cost terrorists such as the high profile isis recruit known as jihadi john. >> you now have 72 hours. >> we will find you, we will hunt you down and we will hold you accountable. >> reporter: in a war zone like syria, can you really do that? >> whether it's through the use of our military through the use of our law enforcement capacity if you harm americans, it is the sworn duty of every person in the executive branch to find you and hold you accountable. we will do that. >> reporter: do you think that we would go as far as sending in our u.s. troops to find him and hunt him down? >> i wouldn't put anything off the table. >> reporter: the influence of isis here in the u.s. is just one concern for law enforcement. just last week terror group al shabab called for attacks on u.s. shopping malls like the mall of america in minnesota. you look at people going through airports you go through body scanners. a lot of security. you don't have the same kind of security at the malls. as the nation's top law enforcement official would you recommend more security at easy targets like malls? >> it would be the responsible thing for the operators of these malls to increase their capabilities when it comes to keeping people safe. just going about their normal everyday lives. >> reporter: he says has biggest terrorism concern is another attack on u.s. soil like the boston bombing. >> it is the thing that keeps me up at night, worrying about those lone wolves those one or two people who for whatever reason decide to do something like we saw in boston other threats that we have prevented. it's something that gives me great concern. >> reporter: we learned this week from the fbi director james comey there are open investigations on home-grown extremists in every state. i asked holder if the justice department is being more aggressive in prosecuting these types of cases. he said yes, that the agency has more resources to combat the home-grown threat. he says the threat landscaped has changed dramatically since he took office six years ago. >> thank you so much. it could be the biggest and bloodiest battle against isis yet, the fight to reclaim iraq's second largest city. but can iraqi forces the same ones who ran away last time can they do it without u.s. troops at their side? 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>> barbara starr, thank you so much. for more now on the war against isis and the terrorist threat in general, let's bring in the former nato allied supreme commander, author of the book "the accidental admiral, a sailor takes command at nato." good to see you, as always. i have been communicating with a soldier in iraq working on training the iraqi army as so many thousands of u.s. troops over there are. here's what he told me. quote, speaking of the iraqi troops, these guys have no discipline or structure. i have no faith in these guys. there is no way they will take back mosul without u.s. forces forcing them forward. that sounds pretty pathetic. is that what you're hearing from your military colleagues? >> i'm hearing an awful lot of concern and it's so tragic in the sense that we poured so much time energy and money into training the iraqi security forces. now, i don't think it's quite as bleak as you are hearing from that particular soldier, and i think the key is can we sweep up enough competent elements from the old iraqi security forces to put some thousands together. i think we probably can. but it's not going to happen tomorrow. this is going to take several months at a minimum. we have some big decisions ahead. >> why do you think they announced ahead of time that they were going to retake mosul in april or may and now they are walking it back? that has a gang that couldn't shoot straight quality to it. >> i think it was a mistake. putting it out there, the only rationale i can think of is you are trying to build a sense of narrative, momentum but i think it's backfired and also it lands on top of the new secretary of defense who needs time to take a breath to be briefed, to understand what's going on before he makes coherent recommendations. i think it was a mistake. >> isis making a lot of moves that seem specifically aimed at making this war a bigger war. going after those christians from egypt, burning alive the jordanian pilot. now they have kidnapped 220 christians. do you think they are trying to make this a bigger broader regional war, bringing in other countries? is that what their aim is? >> i think first and foremost this is how they put fuel in the car, by being the biggest, the baddest, the most evil the smashers of the idols and the icons, the burners of the prisoners, the rapers of women. this is how they entice other people as sick as that is to come join this cause. i think reason number one is to continue that flow of jihadis. reason number two, your point, it fuels a broader war, broader conflagration. i think they see opportunity in that. >> let's talk about jihadi john. we learned his identity this week mohammad emwazi. we heard the attorney general earlier talking about how he wants to get him. how realistic is that given how little intelligence we have on the ground in syria? >> i think it is realistic over time that we can find him, as we did bin laden eventually who was maybe the toughest and most elusive target. but it's not going to happen quickly and you make the point that is the correct one, which is we have got to get boots on the ground. we have to get eyes in the problem and we are going to have to do it in syria. especially if we are going to go after people like jihadi john. >> has there been progress in getting intelligence assets into syria that maybe the pentagon and state department aren't talking about? >> i think that's correct. particularly this was a mistake on the part of the isis when you burn a jordanian pilot, jordan really steps up. those are the arab countries who can get in there and cooperate with us and provide us those eyes on the ground to take on targets like jihadi john. so big mistake on the part of isis. >> is there more cooperation going on from the arab countries that we do not know about? because obviously, they are the ones saudi arabia iraq syria, jordan they are the ones in the direct line of fire from this horrific group. >> i think there is a fair amount of visible work going on that we see, the strikes that the arab air forces are undertaking, but i think below the surface, yes, there's a lot of help. we talked about intelligence. i think finances we are seeing the arab governments, particularly the gulf states go after the finances and really that's i think the midterm thing that they can do the best is cut off the financing to this group. >> admiral, thank you so much. always good to see you. thank you for coming by. door-to-door massacre in missouri. when it was over eight people were dead. now police are combing through six different crime scenes to try to figure out the big question here. why? 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who was he? >> reporter: jake the shooter has been identified as 36-year-old joseph aldridge. he lived a few miles down the road in tyrone. we are actually in houston, missouri at the texas county justice center where the sheriff just had a news conference a short time ago. aldridge lived with his mother 74-year-old alice aldridge the elderly woman authorities say was found dead of natural causes in one of the residences. again, six crime scenes very confusing. four victims identified right now as aldridge's cousins, two married couples also living close by in fact all the victims lived within a three-mile radius of each other. there is no word on the identity of the three other victims. we are told they are not related to the suspect, joe aldridge but again, as the sheriff pointed out, this is a community of 50 people. everybody knew everybody. so there is some kind of connection between aldridge and those other three victims but authorities just aren't saying what it is right now. and there is a female victim shot and not killed. she is expected to be okay. jake? >> kathy sweeney live in tyrone missouri thank you so much for that. let's talk to sergeant jeff kinder public information officer for the missouri state highway patrol. he joins us on the phone. thank you so much for joining us. what more can you tell us about the shooter? the county coroner told the st. louis post dispatch that perhaps finding his mother dead even of natural causes may have set the gunman off. is that the working theory now on possible motive? >> you know we are examining a lot of different avenues now. i hadn't heard that but you know i guess that probably is a possibility. it would be speculation for us to say that was the case. >> was this man on the radar of anyone in law enforcement before this killing spree? >> no, sir, not to my knowledge. we had had no dealings with him other than what the sheriff said years ago, he may have had some minor criminal incidents. other than that he wasn't. >> the shooter was related to at least a few of the victims. this is a very small town. is this family known for causing problems of any sort? >> no sir. this particular family they're respected within the community and you know it's a shock to everyone. nobody could ever anticipate this coming. >> as kathy told us a few minutes ago, there was a victim who thankfully was able to survive the rampage. is law enforcement able to talk with her yet? >> yes, sir, i believe they talked with her at the scene last night, and she was able to give them some information and was able to point them in the right direction. >> there are six separate crime scenes in a town of just about 50 people. does your community have the resources for an investigation or does the missouri state highway patrol the organization you belong to but also just the state in general, need to provide assistance? >> what actually happened was the texas county sheriff's department called us and asked us for assistance. we assigned several road troopers to that and also several criminal investigators who were there processing crime scenes and providing assistance there. so we were well covered there. we brought them in from different areas of the state, but we were able to overcome that problem. >> lastly sir, i can't even imagine, eight people dying, seven of them being killed in a situation like this but especially in a town of 50 people. it must really really shock everyone there, because everybody knew everybody else. how are people coping? >> you know everybody's in disbelief now and like you said they are shocked. they will all, you know just have to take care of each other but it has shocked this community to its core. you know we will just have to work our way through it. >> sergeant jeff kinder thank you for talking to us. our thoughts and prayers with the community there. >> thank you, sir. in our politics lead a rather chilly reception from a conservative crowd. not long ago, former florida governor jeb bush wrapped up his big speech to his conservative base. let's just say it took him a little while to warm up the room. could this be a sign of the response he might get when it's time to win votes? that's next. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh... you don't love the dress? i love my sister... 40 flavors. 100 calories or less. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? 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[ audience boos ] >> reporter: but bush urged skeptics not to write him off. >> for those that made an ooh sound, that what it was, i'm marking them down as neutral. i want to be your second choice if i decide to go beyond this. >> reporter: maybe some wishful thinking there. but when jeb bush's interviewer, sean hannity, asked him to describe what kind of conservative he is he said he's a practicing reform-minded conservative. certainly stood in contrast to what mitt romney said in 2012 when he said he was conservative -- or pardon me severely conservative. you see jeb bush trying to outline his brand here today. >> into the lion's den he went. thank you so much for that report. in our other big political story today, where is my countdown clock? thank you. there it is. we have seven hours and change until the department of homeland security runs out of money. this is all of course over attempts by the house republicans to strip funding for the president's executive action on immigration reform. here are some live pictures of the house floor. the senate voted already on what's called a clean dhs funding bill. now it's the house's turn. joining me from capitol hill cnn chief congressional correspondent dana bash. what's going to happen? >> reporter: well i think that it's great that we have that countdown clock but it looks like it might not be needed because even though we are only a few hours away from the deadline midnight tonight when the department of homeland security will run out of money, if you look at the house floor right now, they are voting on a measure to keep it funded for three weeks. that is a far cry from what you just talked about that the senate did earlier today, to actually fully fund the department through the end of the fiscal year as it is supposed to happen. but house republicans are holding back saying that they are not going to do that because they are still committed to at least trying one more time to find a way to include in any kind of funding a way to stop or at least mitigate the president's plan on immigration. to allow millions of undocumented immigrants to stay in this country. that's why you are seeing on the house floor them at least do a three-week stopgap to make sure the department doesn't run out of money. if you look at the vote right now, and it is ongoing, what is an interesting dynamic is that democrats so far are overwhelmingly voting no. now, it's not that they don't want to fund the department of homeland security. they just are voting no in protest to doing it in a short term way instead of actually fully funding the department. we will see if they are actually needed to keep the department going, if they do maybe they will throw a couple votes the republicans' way. >> we will stay on top of the story and bring you the final vote when it happens. dana bash thank you so much. in our pop culture lead he will forever be mr. spock. the vulcan first officer of the "enterprise" but leonard nimoy had a personal mission to save mankind. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain. and clearer skin. this is my body of proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis from the inside out... with humira. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further joint damage and clear skin in many adults. doctors have been prescribing humira for nearly 10 years. >>humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers including lymphoma have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. >>visit humira.com and talk to your rheumatologist. humira. this is a body of proof! sunday dinners at my house... it's a full day for me, and i love it. but when i started having back pain my sister had to come help. i don't like asking for help. i took tylenol but i had to take six pills to get through the day. so my daughter brought over some aleve. it's just two pills, all day! and now, i'm back! aleve. two pills. all day strong, all day long. and now introducing aleve pm for a better am. 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first, there is science. carbon dating the types of materials involved. >> the papyrus itself its age. there is the ink that is used to write which we can also analyze. if it's written in bic pen, we know that's not going to do. >> reporter: the next test history. >> you look at the handwriting and you try to match up the handwriting with the handwriting from other texts you know are from that period then you look at the content and you say does this sound like the kind of thing that was written in this period. >> reporter: and lastly there is provenance the story of the fragments' original in. that is becoming the trickiest part in a world where parts of ancient papyrus can be bought online and sold to collectors. is it easy to fake this? >> it is increasingly easy to fake this. >> reporter: yet through all of that new fragments are constantly being found, studyied, authenticated or not. it's not inconceivable there could be a breakthrough text found some day that would radically change what we think of the old or new testament. >> it's not inconceivable. it's one of the reasons that scholars continue to look for texts. >> reporter: that means the bible you hold now may not be the same one your great great grandchildren will read. tom foreman, cnn, new haven, connecticut. >> the new cnn original series "finding jesus" debuts this weekend. it blends science and archaeology possibly linked to jesus. it premieres sunday night at 9:00. the house is voting for funding of the department of homeland security. dana it looks like there may be trouble up there. >> reporter: it is a nailbiter. earlier in the hour i said that democrats are going to vote no unless they are needed in the end. they are needed. they trying to find votes right now. the republican side just to keep the department of homeland security open for three more weeks and they are not there yet. you can see people scrambling on the floor and slowly, a couple of democrats here and there have been going on the republican side. not enough for this to pass. >> wolf blitzer will have much more on this coming up at the top of the hour. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." live long and prosper. happening now, mixed signals. the united states vowing to track down a top isis killer but britain tracked him for years, a suspected jihadi sympathizer and even detained him. new information on how the man known as jihadi john managed to escape. lawmakers holding the homeland security budget hostage right now. will they act to fund the people who keep this country safe or will they face a shutdown? and mall threats. the attorney general of the united states calls on shopping center operators to step up their own security efforts following chilling statements by terrorists. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we are following two breaking stories right now. the clock is clearly ticking
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were there others who tried to ride it out wherever they were? they knew the storm was coming right? >> yes. the national disaster management office has been communicating or was communicating for a full week prior to the arrival of pam, as it was progressing south from the salomon islands, communicateing on radio and others ways so the population was prepared. shelters most people were staying at home, trying to ride it out. in reality many houses just were not built for this level of destruction. even the mobile the cell towers for relaying mobile are only rated officially for category 3. they cannot stand category 5. there's only one left in the country. >> i mentioned that urgently needed are food and water and medical supplies. if your view how many more days can people go before this assistance comes from other nations? >> for port vila itself people are relatively fortunate in the sense that there are some stocks, the private sector has been very supportive of the community, but the news out of port vila is just a wall of silence at the moment with communications down there's no idea of the impact damage to the north nor is there real clear view as to what has happened to the islands to the south where pam actually only left vanuatu landfall about 5:30 6:00 this afternoon. >> all right. unicef acting chief andrew parker thank you so much. i know you a lot on your plate as you try to assist people there as best you can. appreciate it. let's bring in ivan cabrera. ivan pam, where is it heading now? >> it's going to be heading to new zealand. the gentleman you spoke with and the people able to talk with you and me right now, are in the least affected areas. there are people right now that i must imagine are in much rougher shape. here's hawaii. take you to where we're talking about in the south pacific. the island chain of vanuatu. made up of several islands. vila the capital city. there is australia. the forecast in a second as far as where it's headed. i want to take you to the current stats here from tropical cyclone pam. when we talk about a tropical cyclone that's what we call in this part of the world would still be the equivalent of a category 4 hurricane. as it made landfall it was a cat 5. the winds at 150 miles an hour. but it is safely now moving away from the islands here. the damage is done and at this point we're going to be tracking this as a big rainmaker and there will be some gusty winds backing into the northern side the north island of new zealand that would happen at about 48 hours. we'll track that for you in the next few days here. i don't think it's going to be anywhere near what they had in vanuatu which, of course there, this was a historic storm. they had never seen anything like it. we never approached anything like a category 5 storm making landfall in vanuatu and it did and strongest landfall globally since typhoon haiyan which was back in the philippines a couple years ago. it is going to take a while before we realize the essentially the kalamty that is likely unfolding in those islands. >> thank you so much. we'll check back with you later on. here's an amazing twist to this story. cnn's bill weier host of "the wonder list" actually filmed his premier if you recall in vanuatu. it focused on the area's beauty and the remoteness but in what now seems a premonition, one resident expressed fears about rising waters on the island nation and how much devastation that would potentially cause and now this vanuatu being hit by the cyclone pam. bill weier joining us now from new york. so bill you know while you were there, you know, how in your estimation would people there be able to handle this kind of devastation? they already expressed concern about rising water but this is something very different? >> it absolutely is fred. it casts the whole hour we did there in a completely different light. what drew me to the place was the romance, the paras dice the sun kissed sugar sand beaches the fish all they could eat and all of that but very different when you think about riding out a category 5 storm in essentially a thatched hut. this is up in molta lava in the north. folks trying embrace tourism. give you a sense of where they're starting from they just got their first cement floor at the place we stayed. the owner poured all of his savings into it not realizing most westerners don't want to see concrete on vacation. told him to put sand over it. he was asking me how he could get a toilet paper holder. if he got that for his new bathroom he would get a recommendation for tourists to come to his bunga loo. the most basic level of development for the folks who had to ride out these insane winds in what you're seeing there, thatch sided, open sided huts. >> and that's in the northern portion you mentioned and we understand from ivan telling us it's the southern islands that got hit particularly hard. do you suppose that, you know the way of life is very similar? did you get a chance to see the islands or is there a big difference between, you know, existence north to south? >> even the places we hung out in the south, tanna, the island where the prime minister is actually from we spent some time in the village where people live like it is 100 b.c. grass skirts in the woods, ban yon tree houses and, you know, they're perfectly content. they know what the modern world has to offer, but, you know, we're so used to in the west go to an interior room get in the bathtub. there are no interior rooms much less bathtubs. these are hearty folks, survived in this part of the world and they would tell stories about the big hurricane i think in 1938 that split up different communities and shaped that society, and you now they're going to be talking about this one forever. the biggest ever. as one of the previous guests said what's so hard is all those cell towers the cell service, i was shocked to see how good it was, not to be able it to communicate much less get to these places and see how the folks survived. >> extraordinary view. thanks so much for joinings us. your perspective and what we believe to be these people being challenged like never before on being resourceful. host of "the wonder list" which airs sunday nights at 10:00 this week he's headed to greece. still ahead, new leads into who may have shot two officers in ferguson, missouri. ryan young is there. >> police officers still searching for whoever shot the two officers. those officers have been released from the hospital. we'll have the story coming up in a live report. i bring the gift of the name your price tool to help you find a price that fits your budget. uh-oh. the name your price tool. she's not to be trusted. kill her. flo: it will save you money! the name your price tool isn't witchcraft! and i didn't turn your daughter into a rooster. she just looks like that. burn the witch! the name your price tool a dangerously progressive idea. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? 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it's clear why it's important for iraq to hold on to it but why isis some. >> important for isis primarily because this is the first real i would say, robust engagement that's taking place between the iraqi security forces and isis. this is an opportunity for isis to stand up and if they can withhold tikrit or if they can cause some damage to isf, the iraqi security forces or if they can hold out on to a certain portion and remain in place and cause the iraqi security forces to galvanize additional forces this is a big win for isis big propaganda plot. >> are there any marked improvements? we've been talking about how they really have been upstaged by the ability and power of isis so have things changed in any way and if so why? >> well there are some results on the ground obviously, in tikrit, where isf is being successful but keep in mind fred that what the iraqi forces have alongside them right now, are shia militia and they are very -- and qods force and the iraqi core without getting into all these players. you have iranian influence in iraq that is significant and tactically available and making itself very, very successful in terms of these tactical engagements against isis. this is a big deal for tehran. they are exercising some very significant influence in this battle in tikrit. tactically that's good. the united states and tehran, very ironically share the same interests here in that we want isis to be destroyed. the challenge going forward strategically, obviously iran has the upper hand in terms of influencing activities on the ground. our advisors the united states presence certainly is robust and vigorous across the board, but we don't have troops on the ground that can really support the iraqi forces. that's the issue right now. when it's any port in a storm, the iraqi forces need help iranian are there, they're getting it. >> interesting that there would be this u.s. and iran, you know kind of parallel two strategic interests, but as it pertains to helping coordinate the joint iraqi forces would that put iran or the u.s. in the same company, you know, talking together for this military strategy or are those iraqi forces just independently receiving instructions and guidance and moving based on the iranian and u.s. influence? >> yeah. i would think very simply, iranian forces are saddling up next to the iraqi forces on the ground. they are providing tactical support, irrespective of the coordination details that iraq has very closely, very trusted, very deep with central command, the united states central command, which has the overall responsibility there in iraq. so iran is there and they're providing help at the tactical level. that's kind of how it's working right now. >> fascinating. spider marks thanks so much. good to see you. >> thank you. >> still ahead, new questions about an incident at the white house that put two secret service agents under investigation. cnn's erin mcpike is at the white house for us. >> we're learning that initial reports about this incident may have been overblown. i'll have more on that after the break. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ welcome back. thank you. it's not home. but with every well considered detail, it becomes one step closer. no wonder more people choose delta than any other airline. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. checking your credit score is for chumps. i have great credit. how do you know? 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>> i wouldn't say it is changing. there is an investigation. the department of homeland security is investigating, also there will be some talk about this on capitol hill on monday and tuesday, but our latest reporting does contradict or at least diverge from some of the original details. and what we know is that there were two senior secret service agents who were at a retirement party for one of the colleagues on march 4th at a bar in chinatown about 7 blocks due east of the white house. at the end of the evening the two agents drove in a government car back tots white house, where there was some suspicious activity going on. there had been a bomb threat and that was being investigated. so the two agents drove up to the barricade. the car nudged an orange barrel at the time. but as far as we know from what we're hearing from sources now, there was no collision, no damage no sort of confrontation and it may be that there was never even a suggestion that a sobriety test needed to happen. those two agents then went home. they have been reassigned in new roles in the secret service. but then here's where the trouble is. joe clancy who is the director of secret service was told about this five days later and that is what some are questioning. it's calling into question some credibility. has he really changed the culture of the secret service. and he will be testifying on capitol hill in private and public briefings on monday and tuesday. jason chaffetz who shares the house oversight committee spoke to cnn about this and here's what he had to say. >> this is a big moment for director clancy. he has the opportunity to help clean this up. how he does it the manner in which he does it i think he needs to send a signal that there's going to be a new age of accountability and that means communicating at the very top right away. >> reporter: and fred we should also point out that the only thing we have heard publicly from the secret service so far is that there is an active investigation under way over this issue. they have not put out any details yet about what they know of this incident. >> all right. erin mcpike, keep us posted from the white house. so is this more of the same for the secret service? is there a few problem here? joining me from los angeles is former secret service agent anthony chappa and also is with the office of professional responsibility for the u.s. secret service. anthony good to see you. so all of this sounds really strange, doesn't it? and does it seem like a case that's overblown or does this smell of a cover-up? >> well fredricka, let me say that i represent myself and i'm not a spokesman for the secret service, but the situation is one that it never is what it appears on its face. everything in my 25 years needs to be investigated and that's what's going on today. so that director chancey can inform those what happened. what is sad is that we're focused on the allegations, the agents in question you know, still have their rights prior due process, to explain what happened. i guess what is sad is that we're not focusing on the bravery of the uniform division officers that responded to that suspicious package and how they set up a net of communication and shared with all the ajoining police jurisdictions and one officer tried to apprehend the individual and stop the vehicle and ended up getting assaulted by the car and then the womans escaped and the agents and officers responded capturing the person finding that the device was a hoax device and having to charge her for assault on the officer. that's what affects a lot of us today. >> and those and what you spelled out does seem to be the business as usual, the expectation of the courage of secret service when tasked as they did carry out there, but what is unusual is yet another potential incident that certain li certainly kind of scars the image if not wounds the image of secret service. this investigation along with string of things that have happened in recent years from the prostitution scandal in colombia the breach in atlanta, on the elevator with the president, and the armed man who did make it too the white house, does all of this say to you that this really is the business of usual for the secret service or there is a problem, there are gaping holes and it does jeopardize the sanctity of what the u.s. secret service has always reptsds? >> i think this incident alone and many others that are very positive to say that here was a situation where two supervisors, you know had a focus of duty that even though they were off duty they could hear the situation was happening, felt that they needed to respond. and had they gone out for a sandwich and had a diet coke should they have responded absolutely. the fact that it's alleged they may have had attended an event and had a beer that has to be investigated. they went and the fact that the supervisors and officers felt the leadership was willing to listen to them and hear that there was a situation that needed to be investigated at the highest levels i think that speaks volumes of the new leadership and ability to report these things because director clancy has that reputation. he's willing to talk to the newest employee to the most senior employee. if you have an idea or concept or new solution he wants to hear it and he will put it in effect. >> anthony choppa thank you for your expertise. >> thank you very much. >> all right. words or actions, what defines racism? 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i mean we're talking about lynching the "n" word "n" words will never be a part of this fraternity, can you separate the racist language and the person using it? >> well no. fredricka, i don't think you can in this instance. i think it's an example of anti-black racism that even 50 years after selma is really glour rishing in parts of the -- flourishing in parts of the united states. especially college campuses but throughout our political, social democratic institutions and i think young millennials like the 19-year-old boy who i am sure is an empathetic compassionate young man in other ways is existing side by side with the racist anti-black sentiments that he's fine with and his cohort is fine with. i think there's something wrong and the family can't say he's a fine young man who made a mistake. what they're not understanding he's articulating what he's been incull cating these years, anti-black racist sentiments. he can enjoy black bodies on the football field at ou but when it comes to joining his fraternity he can -- this song that creates a hostile climate for african-americans because it's a hostile climate that black students are facing at ou. >> tim, what is the explanation? i'm not asking you to speak for these young people but we're talking about this is another example of something that happens, it is offensive, it clearly sends a very strong message and makes a lot of students very uncomfortable, particularly those who are black, but you have the young students who say in their apologies i was wrong and reckless and done mean anything how is it taking college age kids that explanation is enough? it's not enough. are they racist or not racist is the wrong discussionp whether or not they are at their core racist people isn't the issue. they were willing to participate in the performance of racism and that's been the bigger issue. there were plenty of white folks that didn't own other human beings. there were plenty of white folks who did not actively discriminate in their businesses during segregation but they sat back and collaborated with it they participated in it and we've got to remember racism is not just about individual bad acts it's about systemic inequality. these young men, i would say, even if we give them the benefit of the doubt say they're not horrible racist people that might be worse. what does it say good people caring people r willing because of group pressure group think or this society's training to participate in racism and until we get to the place where white folks are prepared to stand up and challenge this not just be passively nonracist, but actively anti-racist, we're going to have these kind of things happening. >> tim, does it underscore that some people just don't understand what racism is? they don't know how to define it? they don't know that, you know uttering a few words can be just as harmful potentially as, you know carrying out an act? >> i think they clearly don't know what it means, but any time we think about a word that ends in those letters, isms, not just ideologies we're talking about systems of inequity capitalism socialism, racism as well it's not just individual prejudice, it's systemic inequality and as long as we continue to perform acts of individual racism that maintains a system of inequity and that's what we need to be focusing on and talking about. i remember when i was in college there were two crosses burned at tulane university my senior year 1989 and '90 and both times the individuals who did that said well i'm not sure it was racist. the first cross was only two feet tall as if somehow we can measure hatred with a slide rule and decide it's not rice racist. we're intent on staying saying there are bad people over here and good people over here. good people can be caught up in bad systems and bad conditioning and act out in racist ways even if deep down they're good people. >> and, you know, last weekend, you and i were in selma and the nation celebrating a milestone 50 years after the edmundpettus bridge and having this discussion precipitated by college kids there have been a string of situations that really has raised a lot of eyebrows when paula deen apologized for the use of the "n" word you know some people thought that wasn't enough it didn't seem sincere enough then rudy giuliani recently saying he's not like you, talking about the president of the united states and then fashion police juliana rancic saying a disney actress and singer smelled because of her dreads. this van, in your view what does this say about america, what does it say about people who either say blame it on alcohol, or maybe have a sense of humor about it i really didn't mean it i mean what's going on here. >> well i cannot improve upon the first two comments what i can -- i understand and agree, if you pull back something interesting is going on because of social media, digital media, people have -- are no longer able to present a unitarry self. everybody has their public face and other stuff. even those part of the is conversation. if you taped everything we said for 48 hours, we might be shocked to hear some of the things we've said, you know just offhand comments or something about a woman or rich people or republicans, whatever. i would hate to hear a playback. what does it seen in it means that the idea are you a racist or not a racist is the wrong thing. are there times, moments where you act or think racially incensesensitive thoughts. >> you're saying you can't get hung up on the label or whether you or not a racist or the actions or what do you mean? what beyond that then? >> what i mean is that people are complicated. so what i think is going to be happening more and more is more and more of moments that you thought were private are going to be held up for public review and we will find lots of people are inconsistent they feel one way in their heart but they sometimes act differently. guess what? i know i'm not supposed it to eat doughnuts. sometimes i do. that does not make me a terrible person. it makes me a human being. we have to have a conversation about it. people are so quick to say oh, my god, i am never racist never had a racist thought, bone in my body that's just not true. and so then we wind up with these crazy conversations. i think more and more we're going to have to accept that people do act from a multiplicity of impulses some of them are racist as tim said in a society like this let's have a honest conversation about the fact that none of us are perfect but when these moments come up the prefabricated phony sounded apologies make it worse not better and so the people apologizing need to come from a different place but those of us who hear the apology need to think there but for the grace of god, let me show grace, hope nobody is recording me tomorrow. >> all right. van jones, tim and joe, thank you so much. that is breaking the surface. we could go deeper in the conversation because it is a deep and very big problem and then we'll talk about the legal aspects of that -- that have been provoked by the actions of a few of those students at oklahoma university. thanks to all of you. that's later on this hour. and we'll be right back. in a race, it's about getting to the finish line. in life, it's how you get there that matters most. like when i found out i had a blood clot in my leg. my doctor said that it could travel to my lungs and become an even bigger problem. so he talked to me about xarelto®. >>xarelto® is the first oral prescription blood thinner proven to treat and help prevent dvt and pe that doesn't require regular blood monitoring or changes to your diet. for a prior dvt i took warfarin, which required routine blood testing and dietary restrictions. not this time. while i was taking xarelto®, i still had to stop racing, but i didn't have to deal with that blood monitoring routine. >>don't stop taking xarelto®, rivaroxaban, unless your doctor tells you to. while taking xarelto®, you may bruise more easily and it may take longer for bleeding to stop. xarelto® may increase your risk of bleeding if you take certain medicines. xarelto® can cause serious bleeding, and in rare cases, may be fatal. get help right away if you develop unexpected bleeding, unusual bruising, or tingling. if you have had spinal anesthesia while on xarelto®, watch for back pain or any nerve or muscle related signs or symptoms. do not take xarelto® if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. tell your doctor before all planned medical or dental procedures. before starting xarelto® tell your doctor about any conditions such as kidney, liver, or bleeding problems. xarelto® is proven to reduce the risk of dvt and pe, with no regular blood monitoring and no known dietary restrictions. treatment with xarelto® was the right move for me. ask your doctor about xarelto® today. tripadvisor not only has millions of real traveler's reviews and opinions but checks hundreds of websites, so people can get the best hotel prices. to plan, compare & book the perfect trip visit tripadvisor.com today. . . ♪ ♪ i'm almost done. 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>> i'm concerned because she had back surgery last year disk bulge. because she is delivering babies all of the time, that's not easy. and i was a little concerned. but she has the strongest work ethic i've ever seen. so i don't doubt at all she'll finish. we may have challenges but there's no one that can outwork her. so i'm really excited. i know she'll finish. >> you're going to cross that finish line together. >> sounds good. >> all very exciting. all right. this too is pretty exciting. it's a return that has been 14 years in the making. serena williams back in the tennis tournament she once refused to play in. cnn sports coy wire with us now. it's incredible. >> yes, it is an incredible story. this is an emotional return to indian wells, california last night for serena williams. she hadn't stepped foot on the court since this ugly scene in 2001. she was booed and she and her family hit with racially charged insults. she says she has forgiven everyone and now it's time to move on and be strong. it was a lot different scene this time fred. serena heard the crowd cheer. she got a standing ovation. it moved her. she got a little emotional and teary-eyed. but then the world number one got back to doing what she does best and that's slamming the court. serena won in straight sets 7-5, 7-5. after the match, she admitted she was nervous but knew this moment was much bigger than that. >> it was a really big statement, you know. and i felt like you know even to have an opportunity to have someone mention a statement like that was quite interesting. but it felt really good. it definitely feels like one of the biggest moments and the proudest moments of my career. > wow. one of the proudest moments. so why now. why did she decide this was the time to end this boycott? >> she was 19 then. so she was young. and there came a point she can't imagine going back to the place where people were shouting racial insults to her and her father. and for a long time it was really difficult for her to even imagine going to play there. but now she's 33 years old. and she felt it was a good time for her and america to step up and say we can be better. we are better. she felt that by stepping out on the court, she would be making a strong statement that no matter what happens to us or to our families in life it's not what happens to us it's how we go through it. so we can let the whole world know we're strong we're not going anywhere. and we're going to continue being the best we can be. so that was her mode of operation. everything going on in ferguson and everything we're seeing with oklahoma that video -- >> we just had a discussion just ten minutes ago about, you know racial chants and the use of derogatory terms, and actions and why it seems that some people kind of are confused about what defines racism. >> absolutely. and it was a bold statement and at the right time by the world's number-one female tennis star. it was awesome. >> that's a nice complete package, full circle for her journey. thanks so much coy. appreciate it. so much more straight ahead in the "newsroom," and it all starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com happening right now in the "newsroom," two days after two officers are shot and injured in ferguson the suspect is still at large. police chasing several new leads today as the manhunt continues. plus -- >> it looks like an absolute bomb has hit. it is devastating. >> and packing winds of 155 miles per hour cyclone pam turning in the south pacific. so far, at least six people killed and an island nation devastated. and is it an overblown incident or a cover-up? new questions today about why two secret service agents are being investigated after allegations of drunken driving on white house property. you're live in the cnn "newsroom." hello again, everyone and thanks so much for joining me i'm fredricka whitfield. police are chasing several new leads in ferguson, missouri for the suspect or suspects who shot two officers. they are also considering increasing the current 10,000$10,000 reward. it's been more than two days since officers were shot and wounded in the protests. let's bring in stephanie elam in ferguson. stephanie, where does the investigation stand now? >> reporter: well at this point, fred they continue to look for those suspects. they're saying they don't have anyone in custody, but they're not calling this a cold case. they say the investigators are working around the clock to try to identify who may have been behind the shooting of those two police officers late wednesday night at the end of that protest. they also continue to talk to several people within the community, and that $10,000 reward that is out there, they're considering also increasing that to see if they'll get more leads on what exactly transpired and who was behind this heinous activity of targeting these two police officers fred. >> now, all of this happening, the police chief has stepped down the city manager, a judge has resigned and then there are people calling for the mayor to do the same. how is that influencing the climate there in ferguson? >> right. well, this all coming on the heels of that department of justice report and looking at some of the racism they found when investigating the department. out here last night, even in the driving rain there were people out here protesting the ferguson police department. but there was also a small group of people who were out here saying that they were backing not just the police officers but also the mayor. mayor knowles here in ferguson he spoke to our sara sidner and this is what he had to say. >> you were here during all of the madness that has unfolded in this city. >> sure. i can tell you this. there's ways to remove me if that is the will of the people. i've stood for office five times over the last decade. and won every time. this past time just a year ago, less than a year ago now, i was unanimously or unopposed for office. >> so you're not going anywhere is what you're telling us. >> unless the residents decide to remove me. but right now that's not the indication i get. >> and so right now it sounds like mayor knowles is sticking around. does not plan on going anywhere as you heard him say. and at the plagues everything is calm. but as we know it's when night falls the protesters come out. but the tone last night, way more calm way more controlled. a lot more conversations between members of law enforcement and also people out there protesting. it didn't have that anger we have seen in other nights fredricka. >> stephanie elam keep us posted from ferguson, missouri. appreciate it. today in the south pacific, paradise turned into destruction and a state of emergency was declared after deadly cyclones struck the island chain nation of vanuatu. tropical cyclone pam took direct aim, killing at least six and injuring at least 20 others. the storm is the fourth most powerful ever to make land fall equivalent of a category 5 hurricane. pam had wind gusts up to 200 miles per hour when it hit, tearing houses apart and knocking down trees. and today vanuatu's president is in japan at the united nations conference. ironically focused on natural disaster reduction. he asked the world for help. >> i'm speaking with you today with a heart that is so heavy. i do not really know what impact cyclone pam has left on vanuatu. we have experienced a form of disaster at one time or another. today, we are appealing for your assistance. >> the australian red cross says shelter, food and water are urgently needed on the island and one emergency worker told cnn it looks like a bomb hit port villa. ivan cabrera is with us now. there have been some discrepancies or is it -- i guess equivalent of a category 4 or category 5 hurricane? does it depend on -- >> yeah so -- >> the region? >> it does. absolutely. so they're all called tropical cyclones everyone in the world. that's the technical name. but depending on where you are, if you are in the atlantic basin, we call them hurnls. if you're in the west pacific, typhoons. the name doesn't really matter. this was the equivalent fredricka, of a category 5 hurricane. and i must tell you as we zoom in closer here and show you the latest the death toll remains in the single digits. i would be very happy, but i would be shocked. i think this has the potential to go into the hundreds if not more. there are going to be villages here that are probably going to have been obliterated by the storm, just because of the structures that they live in. they just can barely sustain a tropical storm or category 1 hurricane. not this. this was a category 5 storm that rolled through here the strongest storm to ever hit vanuatu, the island chain to the north of new californiaedonia here. 150-mile-an-hour winds, still the current wind speed at the core of the storm but continues to move south and east and weakening here. so the worst is over. so at this point, it's a matter of getting the help those people are going to be in desperate need of the next several days especially the smaller islands here. so there is new zealand. we are monitoring this closely here for automatic land. this is the north island of new zealand and the next 48 hours expecting the storm to arrive at -- in a weakened fashion here gusty winds, certainly and heavy rain. but not going to be the formidable storm it was as it passed through vanuatu. historic storm, second strongest to make landfall across any part of the world since 2015 the typhoon that hit the philippines. >> keep us posted. and we're hoping for the people there living in those villages they might be all right. in an amazing twist to this story, cnn's bill weir host of "the wonder list" focused on the area's beauty and remoteness. but in what now teams to be a premonition, one resident expressed fears about rising waters on the island nation and how much devastation that would cause. bill weir joining me live from new york. that really was prophetic, wasn't it that people would express their concern about that and they're not only dealing with high water, but they had to deal with devastating winds, destructive force winds. >> yeah. i was actually speaking with the prime minister, and he was raising what many low-island nation leaders do the extension threats of rising sea levels. but what's so staggering you get so seduced by the beauty of this place, when the sun is shining. you forget this is a very real possibility. it's easy to row majority size the simple life until the wind starts blowing at 100 miles per hour. what worries me about the friends we made there, as well. it's one thing surviving those winds, huddling together in a banyan tree. what now? i mean there is no refrigeration. these are folks who kind of live hand-to-mouth. it's what they can grow the fish they can catch on a given day. add an injury or two to a village, add a swamped-out boat to that equation and suddenly it becomes a matter of survival as they wait what may take days and weeks for first responders to arrive to some of these places. >> oh my goodness. and so is this -- are these islands flat are these mountainous islands? because you -- you know you think of so many stories of particularly coastal areas or mountainous regions where people talk about knowing the weather, knowing the climate when they live off the land like the people that you met, and they would go to higher ground stand a better chance of withstanding certain stormsystems. is that the case here? >> folks live on 60 or so. some are mountainous. you know, typical volcanic south pacific islands, and there is high ground for those folks. but what do you do when the wind blows. others are on these low attos inches above sea level, so they have no high ground to flee to as well. just imagine. it's one thing riding out a storm using new york as an example, you know find shelter. imagine riding out super storm sandy in a tree. that's the amazing reality for these kids here. >> thanks so much for bringing their story and their point of view in your journey. 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and that ferguson police are unable to perhaps control the streets around them? cnn's brian todd has more. >> reporter: the police call it an ambush. two officers shot almost killed. it followed a night of street fights between protesters following the resignation of ferguson's police chief. from an exasperated st. louis county police chief, a window no how tough it's been to maintain control. >> i want everybody here to understand how difficult this is to do it. the exact perfect way. >> reporter: last summer there were many complaints that police were overly militarized, showing too much force during protests. they were they were criticized for not doing enough allowing looting and other violence. have the police lost the streets of ferguson? >> the police are trying to find their way. they're trying to find their footing. they're going to be criticized harshly one way or another. >> reporter: a ferguson police official tells cnn they have not lost control of the streets. but others say their loss of credibility is what got us to this moment. >> a failure to engage with the community has cost them the trust that is needed to be productive. >> reporter: and that may have come back to haunt the police in the moments after the officers were shot. an official with the st. louis county police tells us at least initially, many potential witnesses were reluctant to give information to investigators. ron hossco is a director who has worked with several police departments. he says the average mind-set from this moment on is one of survival. >> how nervous are they and what are they thinking going in? >> policemen are human beings first. so the first thing you're thinking about is how do i come out of this situation tonight intact. you're thinking about the person that the police officers next to you. >> reporter: is there is a strong trusted figure among police who could bring calm? captain ron johnson was a visible presence in ferguson last summer walking the streets, trying to tamp done tensions. will he be called upon again? officials across the state are silent on that. the challenge for police going forward if there are protests just how are they going to keep the peace? some protesters have said in ferguson and elsewhere, police with kevlar vests and shields have been too provocative and have come on too strong. ron says now more than ever officers have to protect themselves. brian todd cnn, washington. >> cedrick alexander, the president of the national organization of black law enforcement executives is also a member of the white house task force on 21st century policing aimed at strengthening the trust among law enforcement officers and the communities they serve. all right. good to see you. good seeing you again. >> okay. so we're now at the situation in ferguson. we've got two police officers shot and injured. what does this say about the climate between some people in the community and the police. this happened during a peaceful protest. is there more to this? >> our hearts and prayers go out to the officers injured. we're glad to know they're released and in the care of their families and we wish for their speedy recovery. it was sad and unfortunate, uncalled for, unjust and certainly did not help in any regard particularly those that were there that night who were exercising their first amendment right in a peaceful way. but we cannot allow for that incident to take away from those who are trying to make a statement that is positive. >> is that in your view in any way undermining whatever progress may have -- may have occurred there in ferguson? there are some people who thought they were encouraged by the doj report encouraged by the removal or the stepping down of the police chief there, and does this shooting undermine i guess some momentum of moving forward? >> well i think what the shooting does quite frankly, is just clearly states that those who were involved and we hope they're caught very soon. but those who were out there that night, marching peacefully in regards to whatever they believed in in terms of response of the chief resigning or scathing report that came out, we have no way to validate that in any way. and i'm in the going to attempt to do that. here is the most important thing, i think, fredricka, in all of this. this community has to move forward now. it has to move forward. and i would hope in light of that incident that that police department all the police departments there locally and the community, are beginning to talk. so as they move forward and as the change that we are continuing to see takes place in that community every day, you have to take this as an opportunity to begin to forge and build relationships now. >> does this in any way -- is it an indicator that policing is more dangerous for police? i've heard a lot of dialogue from various people who represent law enforcement in various and recent days many say it's much more dangerous today to police. is it really? is there any difference? >> it is a challenge. it certainly is a challenge today. policing certainly comes with dangers. >> does a danger already exist? >> it already exists. >> police officers are wearing vests, they have guns. they aren't usually the ones who we think are most vulnerable. >> the point is this. it is a dangerous profession. in light of everything going on in the country today, all of this gets magnified. and the important piece is that we have to take the opportunity now to support our police because the job that they're doing oftentimes and the calls they go to are very unpredictable. and things can happen very, very quickly. but now is the time to be having those conversations, building those relationships. because the mere nature of being in law enforcement, the mere nature of the job itself, you're going to come upon people who are going to be dangerous. but we have to do more as a police department across this country in making sure we connect with our communities, large and small, and keep that going, because when something does happen fredricka, we're in a much better place to have conversation and move through whatever that challenge is together. >> and quickly, yes or no should the ferguson police department be dismantled start from anew? >> what the ferguson police department should be is that community has to make that decision. and that community has to look at experience it has to look at its leadership. >> meaning when the community elects its mayor or city manager. those are the people who actually end up helping to pick and select a police chief. >> absolutely. >> because ordinary citizens don't get the opportunity to do that. >> they don't. but what has to happen is that community has to look at all the evidence that's been placed in front of them and that community has to make a decision as to who they want for elected officials, appointed officials. that's not for any of us out here to decide. people who live in that community does. because the next whoever is in charge of that community or the city manager, whomever they're going to be the ones who set the tone for what they hope their police department looked like what they hope their court system looked like. they have to -- so that community has an opportunity now to engage itself fully into a process where they have an opportunity to make some choice. >> all right. cedrick alexander, thank you so much. i know you're in town for a conference of law enforcement around the region. all the best -- >> around the country, yes. great conference. >> around the country. that's what i really meant to say. thank you so much. appreciate it. all right. we'll get more on cyclone pam right after this. sweet mother of softness... charmin!!! take a closer look at charmin ultra soft and you'll love what you see. not only can you use less, but you can actually see the softness in our comfort cushions. we all go. why not enjoy the go with charmin ultra soft? 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>> well you know the outer islands of vanuatu are incredibly basic. the people live in really nothing more than thatched huts don't have metal roofs. it's like pond fronds so extremely fragile infrastructure. and really it's a case of just learning what the information and the safety practices that have been passed down over the generations when cyclones affect these areas. these local communities have to call on that knowledge and experience to really keep themselves safe. so you know they can't really rely on outside help from the capital city because these islands are so remote and the infrastructure is so basic. >> and only in recent years do they even get cell towers. have you tried to contact anyone there? >> i -- absolutely. i personally haven't got in touch myself with anyone there. but from what i've seen on social media i've been monitoring twitter very, very carefully the last 24 hours. i have seen reports coming out of the capital city fort villa, but no news out of the outer islands and this is of great concern. >> it is indeed. james reynolds thank you very much. appreciate it. the fraternity kicked off the university of oklahoma campus for singing a racial chant about to take action. alpha epsilon has hired big-name attorney who says not now. so what is that attorney going to be asking for? 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attorney jones says this may be an issue of due process denied particularly in the case of oklahoma university richard, that expulsion happening before due process. is this a valid direction? >> you know fred mr. jones is a sophisticated, very bright attorney. and he knows, like we have talked about before for about $250 anybody can sue anybody. and here technically, are there due process violations yes there probably are. could there be a due process hearing. yes, there could be. do we know the result of that? we know the result of that. here is the situation, fred. this timing could not be worse for sigma alpha epsilon with the country reeling from selma, the anniversary of selma, from ferguson from garner in new york. racism is number one on the list these days. and to have an incident like this at the university of oklahoma and get magnified to the extent it is is unbelievable. now, this is not a local fraternity. it's a national fraternity and i read in the paper today, the national fraternity has disbanded the fraternity at the university of oklahoma. so they don't exist anymore. whether the university does it or not, they're gone. so i looked at their mission statement. i picked out their mission statement. and the mission statement -- the creed this fraternity goes by is we like to be deemed true gentlemen. that's their mission statement. they have utterly failed. >> it doesn't matter what their decision statement is. >> it's over they're going to be ostracized. >> what about the students though? because the parents of the students might want to say, wait a minute should my kids have been expelled on these grounds. and so avery, if we're talking about due process and this attorney saying they had the right to at least give their side of the story before being expelled. at the same time isn't there a code of conduct and expectation of students' behavior on campus? and does the oklahoma university president, david borne, have this discretion to say this is -- this violates the code of conduct, and so you're out of here? >> well -- >> without legal challenge. >> doing legal analysis not talking about gentlemen. what the legal analysis is here is as an organization sae has absolutely no due process rights. they are gone. they are there as a privilege. the individuals, however, fredricka, and this is very important -- it is a public university. they are entitled to notice. they are entitled to a hearing. david borne, who frankly is wonderful, but should know better should have suspended these students given them notice about what they did wrong, and had a hearing. and based on that evidence he has the right to do the appropriate remedy there. but the violation of rights is not even in question here. these students have a right to a hearing notice and the summary expulsion was absolutely unconstitutional. >> really? okay. so on that note then richard. we are talking about a public university. and that means that all students should feel comfortable being able to attend go to this school. but if you have racist chants that certainly creates, you know an unsavory atmosphere uncomfortable atmosphere and thereby, the president would have discretion to say this behavior is unacceptable or on the grounds of first amendment rights will he be challenged? >> you know fred the university is partially federally funded and state funded. there are constitutional protections afforded to the students of this fraternity. but we know the result of that investigation. we have looked at the video. it's not any great shakes uncovered in this investigation. that's why the attorney is very sophisticated. he's trying everything in his power to try to keep the fraternity alive by entering into some sort of rehabilitative some sort of approach. >> that's not the issue. >> how does this benefit -- ultimately? >> they will lose. >> who would it benefit, ultimately? because one of the -- the two parents of the other young man, levi petit, also expelled said he's going to have to live with this the rest of his life. so the damage is done. so how could the reputation of the kids be resurrected or sae from an incident like this? >> sae is gone fredricka. the reputation of the children is gone. the issue here is due process. those kids have a right to a hearing. they're supposed to be using a surgical fiscal pep. if not, you throw away the constitution. the behavior is reprehensible, but we have a process, fredricka. and when we throw that away the constitution is nullified. >> so quickly, does this mean the parents or students will be able to sue the school? >> the students -- >> yeah. >> they could sue the school. but the attorney is telling us he's not going to sue the school. >> he's trying to sell it. >> it sounds like nothing is definitive. he said he's not really sure which direction we're going to take. >> right. there is still an investigation going on. >> it's going to get settled. that's what's going to happen. >> richard avery, thank you so much. always appreciate you gentlemen. even more fun when we're all talking at the same time. but somehow i still understand everything. all right. good to see you guys. thank you so much. see you next weekend. much more in the "newsroom" right after this. something entirely new is being built into bounty. dawn. new bounty with dawn. just rinse and wring so you can blast right through tough messes and pick up more. huh aren't we clever.... new bounty with dawn. 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is there another mainland or chain of islands that can be hit? >> no. it's actually moved out of the way here i think. i think we're now going to move into what is going to be a long process for the recovery for those folks out there. and let's just bring you up to date on what's going on a recap here. made landfall our time march 13th yesterday 9:35 a.m. on the east coast, sustained winds at 165 miles per hour. again, that's the equivalent of category 5 hurricane in the atlantic basin, why we're covering this story. that is the strongest landfall globally planet-wide since 2013 and strongest ever to hit vanuatu. and the other reason we're covering this story, the island chain nation is very vulnerable to these storms. we have not had a strong one like this hit them and they are not prepared for this. some of the villages some of the pictures i've been looking at literally we have people that are living on trees. so i must imagine there are some villages that are just going to be completely wiped out on the back side of this storm now as we take a look at the winds at 150 miles per hour. still a formidable storm. so yes, fredricka, thankfully we have run out of islands to deal with. so now it's over open water. we have a land mass now and it's new zealand. and we're going to watch this closely. it does have a potential to bring some very strong tropical storm-force winds perhaps getting to hurricane-force wind gusts in about 48 hours as it heads off to the south. but nowhere near what they're going to have to deal with in vanuatu the next several days. >> gosh very tough trying to recover for that. and then of course finding anyone else who may be injured. >> some of the tiny villages so difficult to get to them. and there may not be much left. >> gosh, ivan cabrera, thank you so much. appreciate that. if you want to help the people of vanuatu, head to our impact your world website at c cnn.com/impact. and cnn's bill weir was in vanuatu just weeks ago filming the premier of his show "the wonder list" and gave him a unique perspective of the island nation's people and fragility. earlier today he told me how difficult it will be for vanuatu's people to handle this kind of natural disaster. >> we spent some time in this village where people live like it is 100 b.c. it's literally grass skirts in the woods, banyan tree houses. and you know they're perfectly content. they know what the modern world has to offer, but, you know we're so used to in the west go to an interior room in the bathtub bathtub. there are no interior rooms, much less bathtubs. these are hardy folks. they have survived this part of the world. >> bill weir's new show "the wonder list" airs tomorrow night at 10:00 right here on cnn, 10:00 p.m. eastern time. now to the manhunt in ferguson, missouri. authorities say they have new leads in their search for the person or persons responsible for shooting and injuring two officers at the end of a wednesday night protest outside the ferguson police department. cnn's stephanie elam is in ferguson with an update on the investigation. anything new in their search? >> reporter: well they continue to search for whoever is behind the shooting of those two police officers late wednesday night, just as the protest was winding down. what they are saying is that this is not a cold case they continue to work around the clock. investigators are looking to find any clues. they have done plenty of interviews and continue to interview people. there is a $10,000 reward out there, and they're considering increasing that if they think it will help them get any answers. but as far as where the investigation stands and what they think happened here's what the chief of the st. louis county police department had to say. >> this is really an ambush is what it is. i mean you know you can't see it coming. you don't understand that it's going to happen and you're basically defenseless from the fact that it is happening to you at the time. and that is something that is very difficult to guard against when you have a group of officers standing in a large group, and then you know you have gunfire directed at them. it undermines everything that everybody is trying to do in this. it really does. now, i won't walk away from the fact that it is not beyond the realm of possibility that having all those officers standing there together and the fact that two of those officers were hit, that these officers weren't targeted. >> and there are people from the community, surrounding communities, coming out to support the police officers even last night in the driving range, standing outside to say they are behind the police officers showing their support from that as well as people who have been protesting saying this is not the way they want to go about things fred. >> and stephanie, is there a feeling there that people think these actions may have undermined any hope they had for moving forward, especially after the most recent doj report? >> well that's a huge part of it is finding out how this community is going to go forward after that doj report. and one constant thing that has come up is one of the resignation of the police chiefs of ferguson. now that's happened. he is going to be departing next week. there is also calls now for the mayor to leave. the mayor saying -- telling our sara sidner he's not going anywhere. if the people of ferguson want him to leave, there are ways to go about that. and we know that some people are saying they're organizing to make that happen. but others are saying they just want to continue to see change. you have seen a will the of people out here protesting throughout the time since mike brown was killed on august 9th. they have been out here and it's been quiet. and one thing we did see last night sl as well is some video of law enforcement, folks from law enforcement speaking with people who are out here protesting. and they were having a calm conversation where they perhaps did not grow on everything but sharing ideas back and forth. and that's something that does happen out here in ferguson. and it may not get as much of the attention. but still, you can see the people out here protesting a lot of them do not want to be associated with someone who would hide out in the shadows on a hill and shoot at two police officers. so you do see these two different ideas out there, and it's very, very clear that people do not support that. >> yeah. a situation that makes everybody nervous. stephanie elam thank you so much in ferguson. the u.s.-led coalition led ten air strikes against isis in the last day, and eight of them took place across iraq and the other two were in syria. in the strategic city of tikrit combined iraqi forces have taken -- have certainly been taking a battle from isis fighters. they have managed to take back about 75% of the city so far b. you not all battles against isis are going as well. we're in baghdad right now. jam anna there is a fierce battle in ramadi. what is happening there right now? 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joining us right now, antonio french st. louis alderman in ferguson and joining us via skype from new jersey tom vernie retired detective from the nypd. >> good afternoon. >> mr. french the state and county police taking over protest security in ferguson. the state has taken over the city court. what is the feeling right now about what can and should be done to kind of fix so many things there in ferguson? >> yeah. people have their plates full right now. it is a lot to be done. the resignation of the chief and the city manager were the first steps of a long journey of steps that need to be taken. we sincerely hope the police are successful in tracking down that individual that shot the police officers the other day. i think that was a potential setback. but what we have seen is people have stayed focused in trying to repair the system of injustice described in the department of justice report. and so it's not just a few resignations that people are looking for. it's really a change of a system that exists not just in ferguson, but in neighboring municipalities as well. >> and do you feel like a change in the system means that say, the ferguson police department would need to be overhauled the police chief already stepped down. but would there have to be a next step such as starting anew with all personnel? >> well i think it's required to have change in leadership. so those folks that were responsible for the culture that is described in the doj report, that allowed that culture to fester they need to go. and so we have seen two resignations of high-ranking officials so far. there may need to be more. but as far as the future of the ferguson police department that is a decision that the people of ferguson are going to have to make. we have some elections coming up in ferguson in a couple weeks. hopefully new voices will be added to the city council. and they'll have to take a hard look at what direction the city wants to take. >> and tom vernie what do you think is needed for our ferguson police department? is it an issue of an overhaul and then how hopeful should people be at that juncture? they wouldn't be certain of who would be coming in and what that would mean for the city. would it promise better -- a better relationship between the community that it would serve? >> you know i think the steps they have already taken are good steps. i mean i don't think anything less would have been acceptable to the community. so you know the chief -- we talk about this chief had a very long successful career. and that can't be ignored, either. you know the doj report did, you know have a number of findings that showed some sort of systemic issue there in ferguson which, you know to what part he maid played in that is up for debate. now that he is leaving, the new chief is going to have their hands full trying to put that place back together. in a more positive and productive light. and that will take a lot of input from the community, as well. >> and what do you mean by that the input from the community? is there promise that community policing could -- i mean has room for improvement there, particularly in ferguson. and how much of the onus is on community, in your view tom? >> well i think there's work to be done on both sides. i mean you clearly have a community that does not trust their local police department right? and then you have the police especially in light of the two recent shootings, don't trust the community. so that's -- let's call it what it is. there's a large level of distrust there. so there needs to be a repair of mutual trust between the police and the community and vice versa. and i think when the community -- when the new chief comes in and some systemic changes are made maybe improvements in training i mean you have policing in that area for quite some time. i don't know if a complete wipe of the police department is necessary. i think some reforms and procedure need to be potentially made. some reforms in training some new and improved training. i think that will start the ball rolling. >> okay. >> and some community relations programs that will get the community more involved with the police would definitely be helpful. that's what we did in new york city over the last couple decades. and the crime reduction in new york city is not an accident. the community had a large degree to play with that. because of the close relationship that was built with the nypd. >> so antonio french, real quick then restoring trust. there's a lack of trust on both sides. so who makes the first move in your view on trying to restore trust? the community, or the police department in ferguson? >> well i think it's key that the next leader of the police department making the effort number one to make the police department more reflective of the community. and so it's unacceptable that you have a 70% african-american population but a police department that has almost african-american officers. that creates a problem. so you should have a department that reflects the community. i think that will help. it would also help to have a leader that does a much better job than the previous chief of being able to maintain the connection with the community. so there aren't two sides. and that eventually you get to the point where there is one community, not two sides of a community. >> all right. antonio french tom vernie thanks to both of you gentlemen. i appreciate it. >> you're welcome, thank you. straight ahead, police body cameras have been in the news a lot lately in terms of ideas about helping and crime-fighting. but those cameras can also capture something pretty amazing. like this. rescue of an 18-month-old little girl. the dramatic images, next. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com. bring us your baffling. bring us your audacious. we want your sticky notes, sketchbooks, and scribbles. let's pin 'em to the wall. kick 'em around. kick 'em around, see what happens. because we're in the how-do-i-get-this-startup- off-the-ground business. the taking-your-business- global-business. we're in the problem-solving business. 400,000 people - ready to help you solve problems while they're still called opportunities. from figuring it out to getting it done we're here to help. 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[ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow. all right. there are new revelations that at least one va hospital may be failing its patients again. a cnn investigation last year revealed some veterans were being put on secret waiting lists. president obama visited the phoenix v.a. medical center on friday a place where, as you reported at least 40 veterans died while waiting for appointments. the president went for a status report of sorts, meeting with the new v.a. secretary, veterans and employees there. and while much has changed at the v.a. cnn's drew griffin has uncovered evidence that the skrchlt v.a. in los angeles is still making veterans wait hiding wait times and possibly misleading congress on exactly how long veterans are being forced to wait for care. >> reporter: it's still happening. thousands of patients at the greater los angeles veterans medical centers have been waiting more than three months just for an appointment. the detailed evidence comes from the v.a.'s own documents obtained by cnn, and confirmed by medical and administrative sources inside the greater l.a.va hospital system. new patients seeking care are forced to wait the longest, sometimes months to see a doctor. records show this january 15th more than 1,600 veterans who were new patients were waiting 60 to 90 days for an appointment, another 400 veterans have been waiting up to six months. and the documents provided to cnn show the lengthy wait times are still happening. all of this comes ten months after the head of the v.a. generic shinseki was forced to resign because of mismanagement of the exact same issue. now listen to what one v.a. official from los angeles told congress just last month. >> how long is the average wait time for a new patient at the greater l.a. medical center? >> the average wait time for a new patient right now is about four days. >> that statement is simply not true. according to these v.a. documents, and a half dozen doctors and administrators within the hospital who spoke to cnn, the average the average wait time is ten times greater. it's not four days. it's 44 days. the delays are even taking place at the los angeles clinic for mental health where documents show more than 300 veterans seeking mental health care have been waiting 30 60 even 90 days. specifically asked about mental health wait time that same va official dr. sky mac dougall, told congress the wait time is no different she said just four days. >> it's true for mental health as well. >> according to va documents and a half dozen sources interviewed by cnn, that is not true. this chart shows as of march 1st new mental health patients in los angeles are waiting an average 36 days just to get an appointment. los angeles va officials wouldn't talk to cnn about the discrepancies instead sent a report explaining the report given to cnn doesn't include same day or same week appointments for those veterans needing care quickly. typically account for less than all 10% appointments are not representative of the whole patient population. the va is sticking by its own man, that new vets waited just four days in january, just eight days in march. the real truth say that doctors and administrators cnn interviewed is wait times for patients at the los angeles va medical centers extends into weeks and months and are a serious problem. >> what is so disappointing about this is even after a $16 billion bill that congress passed and the president signed to try to fix the va and even after a lot of the managers responsible at the one out in phoenix were fired or some have resign resigned we're still facing the same basic problem. you just can't seem to trust the numbers coming out of the va bureaucracy. that is what has now congressional investigators looking into all of this. fred? 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>> you can imagine it's been a real challenge. i think she's been brilliant in the way she's tackled these things. >> max foster joining us live from london with a preview of tonight's special. i know, you and the prince are like this. what did she share in his view of america and his journey around the corner? >> interesting. i mean they visited america for the first time as a couple right after their wedding. at the time she was very unpopular. america, like the rest of the world was, is in love with princess dianna. she faced play cards with vicious words. somehow over the last ten years, certainly brits have warm talked to her as she sort of, you know the spin machine around her. it calmed down and they allowed her to be herself. prince charles felt it was a good time to start talking about his wife. he very rarely talks to anyone but let alone about personal feelings. that's what he was doing here. that's exceptional, really. he also looked back at the other u.s. tours, and he's very very fond of america. >> i must admit a quite a lot of them -- presidents of the united states. >> and quite often those encounters have taken place at the white house. during charles' tours of the united states. >> this is a country that you've visited many times officially and privately. >> i think i've been 20 times or something the last 45 years. >> as prince charles and the duchess of cornwall prepare for their upcoming four-day tour of the u.s. he granted me an exclusive interview. he shared memories of past visits. >> i remember the first time. we were invited my sister and i at 1970 at the white house by president nixon for the weekend. that was quite amusing. there was a time when they were trying to marry me off. >> reporter: ten years ago camila joined charles. their first official overseas visit. [ cheers and applause ] in 2005, a first joint overseas tour with your new wife. what are your memories of that visit? >> i remember we had a very very jolly time in california i seem to remember. and there was a friend there. >>well they're excited about arriving. they arrive on tuesday, i think. we'll wait to see the reaction. he also talked about a upcoming next royal baby which i'm sure we'll be covering. >> you know we're going to be covering. you'll probably be there in the delivery room giving us another exclusive. >> please no! >> wouldn't that be something. all right. max foster, thank you very much. we're going to be watching of course this evening max's interview with prince charles tonight at 7:30 here on cnn. we have so much more straight ahead in the news room. it all starts right now. happening now in the news room. >> it looks like an absolute -- devastating. >> packing winds of 150 miles per hour cyclone pam is turning in the south pacific. at least six people have been killed and an island nation devastated. two days after a two officers are shot and injured. the suspect or suspects are still at large. police are chasing several new leads today as the manhunt continues. and is it an overblown incident or a cover up? new questions today about why two secret service agents are being investigated after allegations of drunken driving on white house property. you're live in the cnn newsroom. hello everyone. thank you for joining me. devastation and destruction today in part of the south pacific. an island paradise has been turned into a complete disaster zone. it was slammed by a deadly storm as powerful as a category five hurricane. at least six people were killed after cyclone program took direct aim at. >> the sound of wind gusts up to 200 miles per hour as cyclone pam slammed into the south pacific island of vitamin watt tu. endangering the lives up to 250,000 people >> itting loose like absolute devastation here. roofs are ripped off everywhere. it looks like an absolute bomb has hit it. it's devastating. i'm just driving around what you can drive through. there are a lot of roads that are blocked off. trees have fallen across in some piles so high you can barely see over the top. the water is incredibly rough. there are some villages that have been just absolutely decimated. there are local -- which are native roofs they've been blown away. >> most of us in the hotel ended up sleeping underneath the facilities in the bottom. i've been through many cyclones including in 2006. it was phenomenal. >> it's one of the strongest cyclones ever to hit the region. people took cover in churches and schools. the capital city to port vila suffered flooding and power cuts. at a conference in japan, the president spoke with a heavy heart as he made an appeal for international healthy. >> i'm speaking with you today with a heart that is so heavy. i do not really know what impact cyclone pam has left. >> we're heading to evacuation centers and we're working with the government here. how can we provide the shelters and all the agencies on the ground. it may take weeks before the full extent of the damage is known. let's bring in cnn tom now. >> it is horrible. think of the damage from hurricane sandy or hurricane katrina. isabel, isaac, even andrew in florida. this is stronger than that. a lot of these villages don't have a cinder block or a stone. here is the west coast of the u.s. you can see hawaii. the sea across northern areas of australia. warmest waters on the planet now. this week in the world weather center we were covering four different cyclones. it's all the same. they spin in another direction in the south. look at the winds speeds and notice the purple. the strongest winds on the east side. that's important to note. it's still a massive storm but sliding away from the islands. when you look at the storm port vila. this is the capital city 50,000 live there took a direct hit. we started seeing a trend over land. two islands down 1200 people live there. it's a large village without one brick in the community. so they're outdoors. it's a vulnerable area. storm surge 26 feet. winds up to 200 miles per hour. a category five equivalent strength. not only the strongest to hit van watt tu. it's the second strongest in the entire south pacific in the history of records. here is port vila, fuji is on the edge of the screen here. as we get into the area there are homes along the coastline. why not? you're in paradise. look at the population. this is vila bay. about 82 islands, about 60 are inhabited. many locations are thatch roofs. it will take weeks to find out the damage and get the death toll which no doubt is going to rise. because it was so strong. it is diving to the south. it's getting into cooler water now. they're watching on the north island of new zealand. as we keep our eye on that our thoughts are with them. they have to clear the runway. >> there is no getting in there, period. debris is everywhere. >> horrible. >> tom, thank you so much. that was a comprehensive great report. appreciate it. right now police in ferguson missouri are desperately trying to find the suspect who shot two officers during a protest at a ferguson police department. police are chasing leads, canvassing the streets and talking to citizens. police were fired on at the end of the wednesday night protest and one officer was shot in the face. another in the shoulder. let's bring in stefanie in ferguson. how are the officers who were shot? how are they doing? and where is the investigation? >> reporter: unbelievably both of the officers even the one shot in the face have been released from the hospital and are recovering at home. on the investigation side though that continues around the clock. law enforcement is saying they're searching for whoever is behind shooting these officers. they say they have interviewed several people around and talked to witnesses, they're looking for any clues to who might this be. they do not have anyone in custody at this point. but they continue to work throughout the community to see if they can pinpoint who it is and keep these conversations going to find out who is behind shooting them. at the same time you saw out here last night there were people out here protesting. there are people out here protesting on two sides. you saw people protesting the ferguson police department and also people out here who were supporting the police department. supporting law enforcement and, also some saying they support the mayor of ferguson as well james follows. there are calls he should step down after the doj report taking look what happens happening in ferguson. he said he's not going anywhere. this is what he told us. >> reporter: why should you trust you since you were here during the madness that unfolded? >> sure. i can tell you this there's ways to remove me if that's the will of the people. i've stood for office five times over the last decade and won every time. less than a year ago now i was unanimously or unopposed for officer. >> reporter: so you're not going anywhere? >> unless the residents decide to remove me. right now that's not the indication i get. >> reporter: we have heard there are some organizations that are working to see if they can get the signatures here in ferguson. nothing official with the city just yet. and as far as the protests out here at the population right now it's calm but at night we see people out here no matter the weather. they're still coming out here to protest. what we did see last night was a conversation between law enforcement officials as well as people who were out there to protest. and many saying they do not want to be caught up with the people who are out here doing the shooting and the agitating. they want to see change in ferguson and they don't believe that's the way things are going to get better. >> stefanie elam thank you so much. secretary kerry is getting ready to face iranian officials for talks on a nuclear deal just days after iran's supreme leader blasted that letter from republican senators. how kerry says it could impact talks. each day was fueled by thorough preparation for events to come. well somewhere along the way emily went right on living. but you see, with the help of her raymond james financial advisor, she had planned for every eventuality. ...which meant she continued to have the means to live on... ...even at the ripe old age of 187. life well planned. see what a raymond james advisor can do for you. progressive insurance here and i'm a box who thrives on the unexpected. ha-ha! shall we dine? 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>> yes, i think it could. because it could affect the concessions that iran's negotiators are prepared to make in the talks in switzerland. john kerry will be attending tomorrow. you know there's this clear opposition to the deal in congress and if you are in the position of an iranian negotiator you might think this deal has possibly not gotten much chance of surviving beyond the presidency of barack obama. but when a new president possibly a republican comes in in 2017 that this deal could die. i think it could affect the concessions iran is prepared to make or the iranian negotiators could give the impression they believe that the deal won't last and they can use that idea as leverage in the talks. >> you know, at the same time it seems like it's pretty public knowledge a world over what kind of relationship the president has with members of congress and that this just, you know further exempt fies the attention between those two branchs of government. why would it be the feeling this would impact negotiation between two countries when it's the president -- the leader of one country and the leader of another? >> well, because sooner or later congress is going to get to weigh on the deal. the administration has decided not to negotiate a treaty which would mean it would have to submit the deal for congress and get to get a two-thirds majority in the senate of approval. so does negotiating and executive agreement and within the rights within the institution to do that. sooner or later, the congress is going to be asked to lift some sanctions on iran in return for iran remaining about a year away from the point where it can build nuclear weapon. that's the whole point of this deal. so the president for the next two years, can use his power to lift presidential sanctions, he can ask u.s. partners to lift their sanctions. sooner or later congress will be asked to lift the sanctions. it's clear there's not a major majority in congress to do so. it's not just republicans. there's a bunch of democrats who believe it's going to be a bad deal. it's not going to keep iran from having infrastructure that one day could use to build nuclear weapon. so sooner or later whether it's now or in two years time congress is going to have to weigh in on this. >> and of the 47 republicans, are any of them backing away now from the letter after the backlash? >> some of them have sort of said it was done a little bit too quickly. maybe there should have been more thought about this. i have talked to some republican sources on capitol hill and they say it might have been a mistake for tom cotton and others to address the letter directly to iran. it looks like they were trying to interfere in the process. >> why wouldn't they have thought about that beforehand before signing it? >> that's a good point. they could have addressed the letter to the six nations as well as the united states that are taking part in the talks. what happened in practice was the fact they addressed iran took some of the tension away from the fact the arguments they were making. they were saying it was a bad deal. that congress couldn't sign on to this. so in fact they may have diminished their impact. i think you can say that both this letter and the visit to the united states in the speech to congress by prime minister benjamin netanyahu of israel a couple of weeks ago has made some democrats who are skrept call of the deal coalesce around the president. they don't want to go against their president even though they like the deal. and paradoxly these things have given president obama more leverage. >> stephen colinson thank you so much in washington. appreciate it. you can follow stephen's reporting on this at cnn.com/politics. we'll be right back. i'm locked in. it's processing the payment. and here is the man who makes it run! hello, good to see you, sir. this is the future. it givings you the idea that the loyalty programs that they're having. also to have a fun experience when you visit the shop. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com. now? 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are they still on duty? what is their status while the investigation carries on? >> fred they have been reassigned to other non-operational roles. one was the second in command and charge of protecting the president and those two agents have been assigned to different jobs. >> thank you so much. to the investigation to the shooting two of police officers in ferguson missouri. investigators say they're following several new leads, but the ferguson police department may be in for a complete overhaul according to some. u.s. attorney general eric holder said he's prepared to dismanned l the entire force if that is what it takes to ensure discriminate story police practices targeting african-americans are destroyed. our next guest insisting gutting the force is a must. mark o'mara writes everyone in the ferguson police department needs to leave from the top to the bottom. the police department should be completely reinstituted under department of justice control in a manner that ensures that citizens of ferguson receive the type of public service they pay for and deserve. cnn legal analyst mark o'mara joining us now from orlando, florida. all right. good to see you. you're not saying bring in a whole new contracted police force, but you're saying under the department of justice under that entity should a new police force be brought in. how would that work? >> well, first of all, the reason for it -- i don't mean it as an indictment of each and every cop in ferguson. the problem with it is because of what happened in ferguson. because we focussed on ferguson we have identified a huge amount of mistrust from police throughout the country. particularly in the black community. i think that we should look in ferguson and say, look we know the department of justice report says there's a real legitimate concern and that the black population looking at those concerns are legitimate themselves. why not take this as an opportunity to go back in redoing it from ground zero and show everyone throughout the country not just the black community that when we find a problem that obviously exists in ferguson we're going to fix it and we're going to show we can truly do it the right way. maybe, you know, two years from now we'll look back fred you'll go there and have a special that says ferguson pd 500 days later and see we can do it the right way and start rebuilding trust not only in ferguson where it's really needed but throughout the country. >> what about in the interim. it sounds like something, if it is indeed a viable option and one that, you know is likely to come to fruition that it still, you know a long way away. so what in the meantime in terms of policing and the community and the building of trust and enforcement and protecting and serving in the interim? >> the logistics will be difficult. i don't make light of what it's going to take. it's going to take some extra money and manpower. what i suggest in the interim as we build up to it we have department of justice involvement oversight. we might need to bring into new leadership to the ferguson police department. we might have to have some unintended quote, victims of this new ferguson police department but i think that the opportunity cost of having to reinstitute the department is worth the benefit we'll have. and i agree this is not an easy process. look at what we've done for the past seven months in ferguson. the money that was spent, the emotions that have played out, the concerns we have. if we can actually bring in the department of justice, somebody who can start with a fresh slate, then we're going get them one thing we have to have and that's the rebuilding of the trust in the community. it's worth whatever the cost. >> and has this shooting of two police officers the injuring of these two police officers changed the dynamic in any way? >> i think evidence is there is still an ongoing legitimate problem in ferguson. i think that shooter that attempted eded assassin is a lone actor. i don't think it was part of the peaceful protest. it is evidence there's an enormous amount of emotions wrapped around ferguson. if we do it affirmatively we'll have a positive result. if we try to use a band aid then those people who want to take advantage of the situation are going to do it. >> thank you so much from orlando. good to see you. >> sure. still to come. stunning video released during the boston bombing trial. the car-jacking victim of the brothers running for his life at a gas station and begging for help. the story next. introducing dance-all-you-want bladder leak protection. new always discreet underwear for sensitive bladders from always, the experts in feminine protection. new always discreet underwear absorbs heavy bladder leaks faster then the leading brand, so you can feel comfortably dry. plus always discreet has a discreet fit that hugs your curves. you barely feel it. new always discreet underwear. now bladder leaks can feel like no big deal. because, hey, pee happens. it's one of the most amazing things we build and it doesn't even fly. we build it in classrooms and exhibit halls, mentoring tomorrow's innovators. we build it raising roofs, preserving habitats and serving america's veterans. every day, thousands of boeing volunteers help make their communities the best they can be. building something better for all of us. testimony resumes monday in the death penalty trial of admitted boston marathon bombinger dzhokar tsarnaev. so far 50 witnesses have told their stories. the images of human suffering they have shared are so heart wrenching that many in the courtroom gasp or everyone, you know have tears. cnn's debra for rick has more. >> reporter: fred people in the courtroom were on the edge of their seats listening to the calm understated testimony of a man who lead investigators to the marathon bombers. possibly preventing another attack. these are the images the jury saw last. carjacked by the boston bombers. racing away from his captors. franticly begging a store clerk to call 9-1-1 before crawling to a storeroom to hide. >> they have guns. they want to shoot me. >> it was the break boston had been waiting for since the marathon attack three days earlier. he testified that tamer lynn pointed a gun at him and asked do you know the boston marathon explosion? 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i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room". we're following two breaking stories right now. the justice department civil rights investigation ordered after the police shooting of michael brown finds that the ferguson, missouri police department and knewmu nais pal court practiced in discrimination against african-american ss. investigators also found out racist jokes circulated by police and court officials. we're also following a bitter war of words between allies. president obama firing back after israel's prime minister delivers a blistering attack on a proposed nuclear deal with iran. netanyahu warning congress that if the deal is pursued it will pave iran faster to getting nuclear weapons. the president launched his own blistering attack saying the israeli leader is offering nothing new and no viable alternatives for preventing an iranian bomb. ed royce is standing by live with our correspondent, analysts and our guests. let's goo to the white house, our correspondent michelle kosinski with the very latest. >> so in this impassioned speech that drew thunderous applause from the congress benjamin netanyahu first lay lays out that america is great, iran is back, calling it a dark and murderous regime. then he rips to shreds this still being worked out nuclear deal with iran. the problem is this administration says his logic doesn't work. he still has presented no viable alternative. >> thank you, america. thank you for everything you've done for israel. >> before this very eager u.s. congress, prime minister benjamin netanyahu proceeded to absolutely blast the prospect of a nuclear deal with iran that he called the enemy. >> that deal will not prevent iran from developing nuclear weapon s weapons. that's why this deal is so bad. it doesn't block iran's path to the bomb. it paves iran's path to the bomb. >> what he objects to in this deal being worked out by the u.s. and its allies with the end of the month deadline it would not require iran that demolish any nuclear facilities, thousands of setrycentrifuges, allow a year of breakout time would possibly only have a ten-year time frame and netanyahu says more inspections of facilities would only be able to document iran's potential progress towards a weapon but wouldn't be able to stop it. >> the world should demand that iran do three things. first, stop its aggression against its neighbors in the middle east. second, stop supporting terrorism around the world. and third, stop threatening to annihilate my country, israel the one and only jewish state. >> well eshgs got a huge reception here. the white house, not impressed. president obama didn't even watch the speech but he did use nearly 15 minutes responding to it. >> the prime minister didn't offer any viable alternatives. the alternative that he offers is no deal in which case iran will immediately begin once again pursuing its nuclear program, accelerate its nuclear program, without us having any insight into what they're doing. and without constraint. >> in the last few days we've seen administration officials pretty much preempt everything netanyahu said today and make arguments gens it that if you add more demands onto iran trying to have it dismantle its capacity, adding sanctions or making the time frame indefinite would be tantamount to no deal and the u.s. in stark opposition to israel feels that no deal would be way worse than this deal. that said though the president has already said that it is likelier than not at this point that iran will reject this deal as it stands. >> no doubt. they're furious at the prime minister at the white house. official, thank you. the israeli prime minister received numerous standing ovations from congress, but his speech was boycotted by dozens of democrats. for the impact of the fallout, let's go to dana bash. dana, how did it go p? >> reporter: well, you saw in michelle's piece the overwhelming ovations that the prime minister got to a lot of lines in his speech. remember, this is a republican majority on both sides so most of those people with the rousing applause were republicans. even democrats who did go many of them went to be polite and were not happy with what they heard. look at nancy pelosi. she was openly agitated and annoyed at what she heard. and afterwards she said in a statement that she was nearly in tears because of the lecture that she believed that the prime minister gave the u.s. listen to what she told reporters. >> i was near tears because i love israel very much. i value the importance of the relationship between the united states and israel. the united states of america has as one of its pillars of its national security and foreign policy to stop proetliferation of weapon fz mass destruction. that's what we do and what the president is doing in negotiations. and if the deal isn't good enough, we won't accept it. i don't think we needed any lectures on that. >> reporter: she was speaking for a lot of democrats. basically say, who does the prime minister think he is coming into our house and giving us a lecture about nuclear capabilities and dealing with iran? on the flip side a lot of republicans here were thanking their lucky stars that he gave that speech because they are very concerned, and they say it very clearly that the white house is looking for a deal for a legacy issue for the president, for politics and they're worried that they are going to give in too much in a way that the prime minister laid out today that could hurt not just israel its neighbor but even as far as the united states. wolf? >> as you say, nancy pelosi called the speech an insult to the intelligence of the united states. powerful words from her. quickly dana i understand after all the storm of last week, the fury republicans folded on their attempt to hold up fupding of the homeland security unless it was linked to immigration reform. it finally passed. tell us what happened. >> republicans ran out of cards to play. it's just as simple as that. republican leaders saw this coming last week which is why they tried to end it. but they needed to -- conservatives in their caucus blew that up on the floor and it was very clear even to them that this is the end of the road. democrats were not going to negotiate on giving it all to try to stop the president's immigration plan. so they were able to get this through the house and in sort of a symbolic move even the house speaker who isn't required to vote really traditionally doesn't vote went to the house floor and voted for this to make it very clear that he believes this is the right thing to do fund homeland security and move on to the next fight chshgswhich is just around the corner. >> it's funded through the end of september, right? >> right. with the new spending bill which means new priorities new programs, the exact kind of things that the department's secretary has been asking congress on for a very long time to help keep americans safe. >> boehner doesn't have to worry about any immediate rebellion from some of his toe party supporters? >> not immediate. but he certainly was embarrassed on friday, and there absolutely were discussed going on about how and whether this group of conservatives could hurt him more than just embarrassing him. actually try to take him down. they don't have the votes to do that so they pulled back decided to let this go. they'll see how things play out and wait to see if other more broad coalition of republicans get as annoyed with the speaker and his leadership. then they feel they may have a chance to get him out. but right now they just don't. >> in the meantime funding has been approved for the rest of this fiscal year. dana, thanks very much. bringing in right now the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, ed royce of california. congressman thanks for joining us. do you think speaker has to worry about the tenure? maybe 50 republicans are not very happy with this. >> but in the meantime the thing to look at is in the courts, the republican position is winning. in the courts the president's executive order has been challenged and a federal judge has sided with the position that he's overextended. so i think from that standpoint funding the homeland security department and moving on we fully understand why the speaker has taken that position. >> let's talk about the prime minister's speech. you were there. you applauded, stood up. you liked what you heard clearly from the prime minister. the white house said he offered nothing new or no alternative to what secretary kerry is trying to achieve in geneva. >> look from the standpoint of the prime minister of israel, he views this a little differently probably than the president of the united states. for him, it's an issue of the survival of israel because israel right now has 100,000 missiles on its border that iran put there in the hands of hezbollah. >> 100,000? >> 100,000. >> rockets? >> no. i mean missiles and rockets. >> are we talking about gaza? >> this is in lebanon. you have an additional inventory in gaza. so these missiles and rockets have flooded in there. these are the intelligence estimates. so in this kind of a situation, you can imagine if you're an israeli looking at the duplicity that iran has been involved in in the past it's been in the dna over there in terms of their violation of other agreements, you're saying, where's the verification in this agreement? and the iaea is backing this up. >> international atomic energy agency. >> exactly. they've asked 12 questions, and only part of 1 of those have been answered in terms of the thousands of -- thousands of pages of documents about they have about the development of a bomb. >> did he offer an alternative to what the president is trying to achieve? >> as i understand the alternative it's what i and elliot rankle, the ranking member on my committee tried to do in the last session. we offered up a bill that would really lead to no other option except for iran to either negotiate on this agreement or face an implosion of their economy. because our sanctions bill which passed 400-20 which was bipartisan, was held over in the senate because the president of the united states said no do not allow it. >> white house officials said you wouldn't get the support of the europeans, russians, chinese to enforce those kind of tougher sanctions. >> the reality is that because they need access to the international financial system and because of the amount of influence the united states has in that if we say to a country, as we did once to north korea, you cannot be part of the international financial system we will not participate in that, you can impose those type fz sanctions. now, it's uncomfortable on people, but when you're talking about a country that's developing a nuclear bomb you know, there you have a case for where you have to use this. >> in the case of north korea, didn't prevent them from getting a bomb. >> because the state department stepped in and lifted the sanctions. that's what was so frustrating to the treasury department who put them in place. it was treasury who helped us develop stuart levy helped develop this concept. this is what should have been done. this is the alternative. and the president blocked it. it's unfortunate. >> i want you to stand by. we have more to talk about, including nancy pelosi calling netanyahu's speech an insult to the united states kond session toward u.s. knowledge of what's going on. much more with the chairman ever the house foreign affairs committee when we come back. what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? 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>> well obviously with the quds forces on the ground in iraq and especially with the general in charge of quds forces who in the past was found to be involved in the effort to carry out an assassination attempt against the ambassador from saudi arabia to the united states. >> here in washington. >> here in washington. >> you're sure na sewell lammany directly ordered that assassination attempt? >> i'm sure he as general of quds forces would have some knowledge of the activities that quds forces have been involved in. this is not one isolated case. look at the quds' force involvement in syria, in yemen, look at their involvement in lebanon with hezbollah. this is a very dangerous development to have iran continue to spread its influence, especially with the recent overthrow of the government in yemen, which was an ally of the united states and is now -- >> correct me if i'm wrong, do you still want this proposed authorization for the -- use of military force not only to be authorized to go against isis but also potentially against iran? >> no, i do not think that we would be able to wolf get legislation through. >> you don't think you have the support in congress? >> we wouldn't bl able to do that and i don't know if it's beneficial to our end goal in terms of getting a bipartisan initiative behind the effort to push back isis. but there is no doubt that this problem of iran's undermining governments around the region and continuing to take control of various territories is a very problematic thing. so you really have the islamists running the caliphate in isis and then you have this other group of islamists with the islamic revolution in iran. they are competing against each other, but, on the other hand they both have very hostile designs, as they say, against the little satan, iz leelsraelisrael, and the great satan, the united states. >> let me wrap up with nancy pelosi. she angrily reacted to netanyahu's speech. she said in a statement it was an insult to the intelligence of the united states. she also called it condescension toward our knowledge of the threat posed by iran. your reaction to nancy pelosi, the leader of the democrats, minority leader in the house about netten hughes's speech. >> my thought on all of this has been that, rather than to ruffle feathers here we should be focused on the issue of iran's attempt to obtain a nuclear weapon. and an honest discussion about that subject was frankly advanced by hearing from the prime minister of israel. without his being here i'm not sure the american public would understand all much the ramifications of iran's efforts or the fact that this agreement will expire after ten years. and at that point, we are going to treat iran as though it's benevolence and it will be on the cusp of having the capability of breaking out with maybe 160,000 centrifuges? that is what the ayatollah has called for. i mean, at that point he could take those icbms, not part of the agreement which they are developing and he would have the capability of putting atomic warheads on those icbms. and this is the very real question of why we want stronger leverage on iran in this negotiation in order to get a verifiedy ediable agreement. >> ed royce, thank you very much. up next, we're breaking news. a scathing new report finds a practice of discrimination in ferguson, missouri. we have racist jokes cops were sending each other allegedly and the newly released audio of the man who would become known as the terrorist jihadi john. a lot of news we're following right here in "the situation room." when it comes to good nutrition...i'm no expert. that would be my daughter -- hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. 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this is again, part of the pattern and practice the justice department found. we expect they'll make a formal announcement tomorrow as well as an announcement that darrin wilson, the officer who shot and killed michael brown, will not be charged with federal civil rights charges. >> evan, stand by. i want to get more insight. joining us our cnn legal analyst geoffrey jeffrey toobin john fuentes and cornell brooks. don lemon is joining us also. he's been on this story, of course, since last summer. cornell, your reaction to what the justice department has concluded. does it go from your perspective far enough? >> it goes quite far. i mean what we have here is, as expected, a wholescale indictment of the ferguson police department. the ferguson police department according to this report comes off as a full-service department of bias. in other words, from traffic citations to municipal fines to arrests arrests without probable cause the use of excessive force. the question might be asked, in what manner did the ferguson police department interact with the african-american citizens that did not show bias and bigotry? >> jeffrey, what happens next from a legal perspective? >> the justice department will announce their findings officially tomorrow. then the question becomes, do ne they file a lawsuit against the city of ferguson to have a judge impose changes, or do they negotiate with ferguson and reach what's known as a consent decree? that's what usually happens in these cases where ferguson agrees to clean up its act, changing its training practices, perhaps leadership. then the justice department monitors to see whether the changes actually stick. >> how do you stop tom, this kind of alleged racist behavior in a police department and a municipal court? >> first, you fire the people who are responsible if not even prosecute them especially if you're talking about the municipal court official whoz were putting people in jail because they weren't paying traffic fines. that kind of issue that just should not be tolerated. as far as the officers the officers have to be defendable in a future action. if something happens they're involved in a shooting or other violent action and someone brings a lawsuit, they can't have this kind of material that comes up that the city and the city's insurance company and law firms cannot defend against which proves racist intent on their part. they can't tolerate it. they have to take action against those who did it. >> don you spent a lot of time in ferguson as all of our viewers remember. what will be the impact -- i assume they're trying to improve the relationship between the local police department and the community. >> they are, but who knows if it will work. listen, i know you guys are characterizing it as racist. it is racist. but beyond that i think this is more serious. the people who took oaths to uphold the law have broken the law. it says this review concludes that racial bias and a focus on generating revenue over public safety have a profound effect on ferguson police and court practices andrew teenly violate the constitution and federal law. it's saying the police department broke the law. this is serious. in every instance in this report you see 85% to 90% of people who were most likely to have issues against them african-american people in lockup for more than two days african-american people stopped for summons or other things african-american. the numbers -- as bill clinton said during the last democratic convention, do the math. this report does the math. everything else is subjective that we've been hearing, this person is discriminating against me this person is doing that. this report shows numbers and the numbers don't lie. i'm so glad that jeffrey toobin earlier brought up the fact that they were closing budget gaps off the backs of poor and minority people. >> cornell what needs to be done, speaking more broadly, in order to make sure these fences can be mended, if you will that there's a better relationship -- i think one ever the problems is there's only a tiny number of african-americans in that police force in ferguson. i think originally when the story broke there may have been 60 police officers 2 maybe african-american, even though the majority of the community is african-american. >> wolf enhanced community relations have to be predicated on reform. relationships have to be built on reform. the ferguson police department has to be rebuilt from the bottom up. i mean don is absolutely right. we have evidence that the police department has broken federal laws. they've violated the constitution in every conceivable manner in terms of their relationships with the african-american community. but i believe beyond that we know in the state of missouri that the ferguson police department is not the only such police department not the only such city government that depends on municipal funds. so the governor the legislature of the state of missouri has to go well beyond the ferguson police department to look at this problem more broadly as a matter of state law and state reform. >> what's going to happen, evan to the ferguson police chief? >> well, wolf he had an agreement with officials involved down there to resign. this is some months ago. and according to him, what he's told people down there, after we reported that agreement he decided that he was going to change his mind and stick around because he wanted to see the end of this process. and now we have the end of this process. the justice department eric holder, the attorney general, has called for regime change in that police department. this report by the justice department really portrays a department that's rotten to the core. so the question is is this the time that he finally decides he can go? >> jeffrey, the concern is it's not just ferguson. it's all over the place. >> and just to add to what don said, one of the big civil rights issues of the next ten years is this business of municipalities who need money who don't want to raise taxes who are arresting people for minor offenses, often minorities and saying, you've got to pay $100 $200 or we're going to lock you up. this is a revenue generating technique for cities across the country, not just missouri. and it falls heavily on african-americans, a major issue and the justice department should be looking into it not just in ferguson but all over the country. >> i know it's a huge problem. guys, thank you very much. cornell, thanks to you especially i know you'll be in selma this weekend for the historic events. we'll check back with you next week and get your report on how it all went down. hard to believe that after all of these years stuff like this is still going on in the united states. please be sure to join don tonight 10:00 p.m. eastern. he'll have a lot more on this story. coming up what newly released tapes reveal about the radicalization of the man we now know as a terrorist, jihadi john. and as a prominent russian dissenter is raised to rest the model his girlfriend and witness to his killing, has now left the country. and an early morning mode. and a partly sunny mode. and an outside...to clear inside mode. transitions ® signature ™ adaptive lenses... ...now have chromea7 ™ technology... ...making them more responsive than ever to changing light. so life can look more vivid & vibrant. why settle for a lens with just one mode? 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>> this audiotape is stardtling because you hear a different sounding voice complaining about being threatened and harassed. tonight we have new insights into how the man who would become isis' best-known killer dealt with interrogator. analysts believe in the beheading videos isis appears to have digitally manipulated jihadi john's voice. in the isis beheading videos the militant known as jihadi john has a deep menacing voice. >> obama, you have started this. it's only right we continue to strike the necks of your people. >> reporter: but is this the same man? >> what do you think of the jews? what do you think of their religion? look, they're a religion. >> reporter: an audio recording of the man we believe is 26-year-old mohammed emwazi was just released by an activist group for suspected radicals which claims it worked with emwazi. cnn cannot independently verify the audio sefrmt t excerpts. the guardian newspaper believe emwazi is this man. cage said they recorded him in 2009 talking about being interrogating by britain's domestic intelligence service. emwazi said he was asked about the deadly 2005 terror attack in london where more than 50 people died? >> he goes what do you think of 7/7? i said man, what innocent people have died, man what do you think? this is xremextremism. okay, what do you think of the war in afghanistan? what do i think? innocent people are being killed. he said, what did you think of 9/11? i said this is a wrong thing. >> do you really believe he thought that was wrong or did he say what he wanted the interrogators to hear? >> if you'd be the stupidest radical alive to admit to having extremist views to a law enforcement official. he wanted to get out of that situation. >> reporter: emwazi claims his interrogator thought he was trying to go to somalia to train with a terror group. >> trying to put words in my mouth saying no you're doing this this this and this, we're keeping a close eye on you. >> cage says it was those interrogations that sent emwazi on the path to jihad. >> i think cage is trying to make a point and attack the british government when it's really up to mr. embazi who made his decisions to go to syria. >> on the allegations from emwazi and cage that british intelligence threatened emwazi in that interrogation and harassed him the british home office told us it would not comment. u.s. intelligence officials also are not commenting on this audiotape. >> now there are reports about how his parents are responding? >> that's right. british media sites are reporting the kuwaiti government claiming that emwazi's mother recognized her son's voice from the first beheading video. the daily telegraph said his father denounces his son as a, quote, dog, animal and terrorist. the father says according to the newspaper says the son begged his parent for forgiveness before he joined isis. a lot of us are talking about this guy. that family has been thrown into complete turmoil. >> thanks very much brian. coming up we'll hear much more on the extraordinary war of words here in washington as president obama fires back at the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. up next we go to moscow for the latest on the unsolved murder of a prominent critic of vladimir putin. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. shopping online is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? 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>> reporter: wolf thanks very much. absolutely staggering scenes we've been seeing in moscow as thousands of people turn out for the funeral of boris nemstov, there was a memorial service, the actual burial as well. we haven't seen opposition protests or crowds sympathetic to in this country turn out for years. so truly astonishing: slained critic boris nemtsov carried to his final resting place. earlier, family and friends gathered to pay their respects. an opposition figure who worked closely with nemtsov says that he believes he was killed out of revenge for his views. >> it's clearly a very sad day for russians. it's a very sad day for boris' family. and i'm personally extremely saddened by what has happened. i knew him in the 1990s. i admired him and i hope an investigation will determine who is responsible for this outrage. >> do you believe the killers will be brought to justice? >> i hope so. >> reporter: the 23-year-old model girlfriend of nemtsov was crossing the bridge with him when he was gunned down. she's fled russia to her ukrainian home. the kremlin denies any involvement in the killing. the investigation proceeds with divers searching the waters beneath the bridge for the murder weapon. investigators say all scenarios are being considered and that quote, eyewitnesss are being questioned. cctv footage is already being analyzed. evidence has been collected. a number of tests were carried out. meanwhile, at the scene of the crime, now lies a bank of flowers and mementoes in the honor of a life and voice lost. as that investigation continues, wolf the kremlin is vowing to get to the bottom of the crime and bring those responsible to just justice. russia has a patchy record of solving these political killings and there's widespread criticism that the perpetrators of this assassination are going to be brought to justice here. >> and the russians have allowed the girlfriend to flee? she's in kiev? >> yes. she's in the russian capital. she's been kept at close guard while in moscow while police investigated and questioned her further. she gave an interview to a local television station by skype within the past 24 hours basically saying she didn't see that much. boris was shot in the back. she couldn't see the killer or describe the vehicle that was the getaway car. the police have decided to let her go and she's gone back to her own country. >> she's back in kiev. matthew chance reporting from moscow thank you. coming up a proposed iran nuclear deal. president obama accuses him of offering something new and labeling it all theater. and use of force, jail sentences, racist e-mails, the u.s. justice department finds repeated discriminations against african-americans by the ferguson missouri police department and municipal court. so...you're sayin' you'll give me my credit score for free... right! now you're gonna ask for my credit card - - so you can charge me on the down low two weeks later look, credit karma - are you talking to websites again? 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>> it wasn't long before prime minister netanyahu began a blistering critique that has the white house fuming. he made a grand entrance usually reserved for american presidents. and then the israeli prime minister delivered a blistering assault on president obama's iran policy and his attempt to strike a nuclear deal with iran. >> we've been told that no deal is better than a bad deal. well this is a bad deal. it's a very bad deal. we're better off without it. >> reporter: tonight, president obama is firing back. >> prime minister netanyahu has not offered any kind of viable alternative that would achieve the same verifiable mechanism to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon. >> reporter: there were a series of standing ovations but some icy glares as netanyahu painted a picture of the regime reaching throughout the middle east with what he calls iran's tentacles of terror. >> iran is busy gobbling up the nation. >> reporter: with secretary of state john kerry meeting with the iran foreign minister to hammer out the very deal he was criticizing, the prime minister called it weak negotiators. >> one, leading iran with a vast nuclear program and, two, lifting the restrictions on that program in about a decade. that's why this deal is so bad. it doesn't block iran's path to the bomb. it paves iran's path to the bomb. >> reporter: netanyahu portrayed the white house as iran working with the u.s. to defeat isis. >> the enemy of your enemy is your enemy. >> reporter: president obama says he has no illusions about the iranian regime but he's focused on the more serious iranian threat. >> it's not whether iran engages in destabilizing activities. everybody agrees with that. the central question is how can we stop them from getting a nuclear weapon? >> and the prime minister warned the deal on the table would spark a nuclear tchlinder box. >> elise, thank you. let's go to our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. he's joining us live from switzerland and is covering secretary of state john kerry's nuclear negotiations with the iranians. did the prime minister's speech jim, have any impact as far as you can tell on these talks? >> reporter: the short answer is no and you could see that in the blistering schedule and pace of negotiations that continued today. three two-hour long meetings five in the past 24 hours and we took with note, the final meeting today started about a half hour after the prime minister spoke and ended about a half hour later. so if asked if there was any effect or if the secretary of state watched or listened to the speech they said no he was too busy conducting the talks here. that's the singular message that the president has disregarded the prime minister's advice and given his instructions to the secretary of state to continue the negotiations aggressively to try to find a deal. >> where does the deal now stand, jim? >> reporter: hard to tell you, wolf. as for all of the effort they are making today and the iranian foreign minister told us today that there's a seriousness of purpose of reaching an agreement. but when you look at the outstanding issues a couple of them in public hasn't fessed up and they haven't done it. two, iran is a very different schedule of sanctions relief than the u.s. does. they wanted immediately a start of a deal and the u.s. wanted to meet up over time to confirm that iran is continuing to comply and that's before you get to the very difficult array of restrictions that would be put on iran's program limiting the r & d that iran can do on more advanced centrifuges, accounting for the enriched uranium for conversion to fuel that can only be used in research or power react react reactors not for weapons. when you group that all together you look at three weeks to a framework deal that's the deadline. they have their work cut out for them in coming to that agreement. >> she certainly do. jim shut heciutto thank you. the prime minister's speech greatly undermined the relationship between israel and the united states, a direct quote. indicate bolduan is joining us live. three weeks from today, the israelis go to the polls. >> reporter: you're absolutely right and that's something that you need to remember when you talk about what was the reaction here in israel to the prime minister's speech. all of the networks covered it. everyone watched with great interest to hear what the prime minister had to say, especially how it was received. the reaction we saw is split. generally speaking almost everyone said the prime minister gave a good speech in terms of delivery. he's well known for doing just that. but beyond that wolf, that is where the divide is on opinion, especially when it comes to what impact the speech will have on the key issue of the iran nuclear negotiations. listen to this. >> i'm very proud of our prime minister who came and said exactly what we feel. it is a bad deal. >> there is no doubt that prime minister netanyahu knows how to make good speeches. but let's face the truth. the speech we heard earlier this evening, as impressive as it may be did not prevent the iranian nuclear program. it will also have no impact on the agreement that is being formed nor on the schedule. >> reporter: now, that right there there is isaac herzog. you heard a lot of folks talking about they believe that it's maybe not the sole motivation for the speech but it was a large part of that speech being motivated as an attempt to woo voters back here at home to have support for benjamin netanyahu. that's what the commentators are saying that they are looking forward to seeing what the survey for voters is to see where they stand and how the message was received back here in israel. wolf? >> we'll see if he gets a bump in the polls, the prime minister, because going into this speech it was very very close and there was a lot of speculation. he may not get himself re-elected. might get a little bump. they are really concerned, aren't they kate about u.s./israeli relations? they are worried that the prime minister may have hurt that relationship. >> reporter: absolutely. when you look at the headlines in all of the papers you saw the headline coming from the house minority or nancy pelosi and what she said and her reaction to the speech and said it insulted the intelligence of the american people especially the headline coming from president obama and saying that there was nothing new coming out of the prime minister's speech. how this was received in america, not just within the halls of congress because many noted how many standing ovations he received in the house chamber but what damage it does, if any long lasting damage it has on the united states and israel. that's something that you just don't know right now. that's going to be an important question. they are going to hear from israeli voters and israeli voters over the next days wolf. >> thanks very much kate bolduchlbold bolduan in jerusalem. some democrats were visibly disturbed about the fierce criticism of the president's -- nancy pelosi said she was almost in tears and many boycotted the speech altogether. dana bash is getting more reaction. dana? >> reporter: that's right. we've been reporting so much on the fact that so many democrats boycotted the speech from the leader of one of this country's biggest allies but it turns out that the leader of the democratic party in the house that actually went her reaction spoke more volumes than the empty chairs because she was so visibly agitated and annoyed when she was listening to the prime minister you see there, she even looked around at her colleagues like are you kidding me when they stood up to applause. afterwards she said that she was near tears because she felt that he was insulting the intelligence of the american people. and then she spoke to us afterwards. >> these tears are because i love israel very much. i value the importance of the relationship between israel and the united states. the united states of america has, as one of the pillars of its national security and its foreign policy to stop the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. and that's what we do. and that's what the president is doing in the negotiations. and if the deal isn't good enough, we won't accept it. i don't think we needed any lectures on that. >> she's not alone in feeling that way, that the prime minister was out of line, effectively, coming into their house and giving them a lecture. now, on the flip side of course you did see all of those applause because many of those republicans, a lot of those republicans think that he did the right thing. that's why he was invited in the first place, because they think the democratic president is going down the wrong path with these talks and they needed wanted america's closest ally in the middle east to explain why that was so important to do. >> dana the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell made a move to stop this iran deal. what are you hearing? >> reporter: almost immediately after the speech was over, the senate majority went to the senate floor and made clear that he as soon as next week is going to allow a bill to come out, this -- it's a bipartisan bill -- to have congress' imprint on any deal that does go down by the end of the month with iran and the allies. right now congress doesn't really have an official role but this is effectively putting congress in the mix saying that this bill would say that congress would debate it and would either decide to vote it -- to approve it or even potentially to vote it down. there is bipartisan support for this. there is probably going to be a freeze on that legislation until after the deal is done if it does get done at the end of the month, but after that it is possible that the congress could tie the president's hands in a bipartisan way. >> we'll see what happens, dana thank you. let's get more insight. joining us democratic congress man adam smith, the ranking democrat on the house armed services committee. congressman, thanks very much for joining us. we know about 50 of your democratic colleagues decided to boycott the speech. you didn't attend. tell us why you decided not to listen to the prime minister. >> well i listened to him but i decided not to attend because i have back problems and sitting for long periods of time is not good for me. but i sat in a very comfortable chair in my office and watched the speech. so i did watch the speech i just didn't go for health reasons, basically. >> so you didn't want to make a statement, like your colleagues that decided to boycott, you didn't go for other reasons. what is your reaction? >> the most important thing is the strong relationship between the u.s. and israel. and both the speakers, unfathomable decision to invite netanyahu here without telling the president is clearly a partisan move all of that gets into the fact that we have a very strong relationship between america and israel that we need to fight to protect. i think the prime minister mr. netanyahu, is wrong about several of the key aspects and what is being negotiated but we'll know that once the deal gets there. i mean if the deal gets there, as president obama has pointed out, iran's hard liners are very reluctant to cut any deal with us and it's quite likely that iran will walk away from the table. so i think the prime minister prejudged what is in the agreement and we all need to wait and see and then we can decide whether or not it's a good agreement. >> where do you specifically disagree with the prime minister? >> well specifically when he says that all sanctions will be lifted from iran well it's not true. we have sanctions on iran for a virt variety of reasons, but also as a state sponsor of terror and for a variety of other actions that they have taken. those sanctions are not going to be lifted. we are not in any way offering to lift all sanctions on iran now or ten years from now. so to say that well gosh if we do this we lift all sanctions, we lose our leverage that is just flat wrong. second i don't think anyone has decided that after ten years everything is fine. we don't know what the timeline is for this agreement but we will continue after that timeline expires to insist on inspectors. there's key facts that he's not correct on at this point. and like i said let's wait and see what the agreement is and if it's a bad greemagreement, i'll be the first to object it. >> we'll see if there is an agreement at all. even if there's an agreement accepted there, the ayatollah may decide he doesn't like it and it ends it right there. congressman, stand by. we're going to continue the breaking news coverage right after this. most of the products we all buy are transported on container ships. before a truck delivers it to your store, a container ship delivered it to that truck. here in san diego, we're building the first one ever to run on natural gas. ships this big running this clean will be much better for the environment. we're proud to be a part of that. your eyes depend on a unique set of nutrients. that's why there's ocuvite. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula that's just not found in any leading multivitamin. help protect your eye health with ocuvite. we're back with democratic congressman adam smith and we're talking about the breaking news president obama firing back at the israeli prime minister after prime minister netanyahu blasted the administration's efforts to strike a nuclear deal with iran. based on everything you know congressman, you're the ranking member of the armed services committee, can the u.s. really trust iran to implement this kind of a deal? >> well look we cannot trust iran. that's obvious and that's clear. there has to be inspectors there has to be -- in the words of ronald reagan trust but verify and that can check and make sure that they are complying with the agreement. absolutely. there's no way we should trust iran on this. the other interesting thing is what's plan b? we walk away from negotiations. i agree with prime minister netanyahu. the best choice would be to discontinue the program and if they want to have a peaceful nuclear power, have their uranium enriched by another country and shipped to them. that would be the best choice. iran refuses to do that. so then the question is do we simply walk away from the negotiations and if we walk away from the negotiations what do our partners do? what does russia and china and europe do? did they stick to the sanctions regime with iran or does it begin to unravel and what does iran do? if iran knows there's no way out from under the sanctions, isn't that an incentive to just go ahead and build the bomb if they've got nothing to lose? i think this is a difficult situation and if we can get an agreement that limits iran's nuclear program to the point where we can be confident they will not develop a weapon it may not be perfect but i think that is certainly something we should pursue. and again, we'll see what the actual text of the agreement is. but that goal i think, is worth pursing. >> if there is an agreement. that's a key if as we all know. nancy pelosi issued a very tough statement saying that the netanyahu speech in her words, was an insult to the intelligence of the united states. she said she was saddened by the condensention used towards the u.s. >> i wouldn't use those words. we have a strong relationship between israel and the united states and netanyahu basically said we're negotiating like a bunch of idiots and, yeah that's a tough blow to take. this is an existential threat to israel. benjamin netanyahu has every reason to be concerned. again, i disagree with them and i don't believe the united states would negotiate a bad deal and accept a bad deal and we're prejudging it all. let's see what the deal is and determine whether or not it makes sense. the hope that somehow iran walks away completely from their nuclear development program on even a peaceful enrichment for energy purposes iran has said that's a nonstarter. if we insist on that, the negotiations breakdown, our partners walk away and, like i said arguably, the sanctions regime breaks down. that undercuts the sanctions regime. >> adam smith is a ranking member of the armed services committee. thank you for joining us. >> thanks wolf. appreciate the chance. >> thank you. just ahead, the infamous nsa may be returning home edward snowden. and we're getting a report about the ferguson missouri police force. we'll find out what federal officials will do with the evidence. why do i cook? 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>> i don't buy this. one of the most prolific likers leakers of our time you're entitled to a jury of your peers. i don't understand why he gets to flee overseas and then talk to the department of justice about what he wants from his trial. come home son, and spend your 30 years in jail. he's cooked. >> what do you think, david ignatius? >> we have plea negotiations all the time between people investigated and this is a plea negotiation. it's been going on informally for a year or so. i think it must be very difficult to be he had kward snowden living in themoscow and i can't help to think that snowden wants out. >> what do you think, mr. speaker? he could spend the rest of his life in moscow. it might be chilly there in the winter but it's presumably better than jail? >> look i think we can find a way to get him home and get the rest of the documents that he has not yet leaked i think it's worth doing. but i think he'll have to face jail time and i think it will be fairly lengthy. >> what do you think? >> i'm not an expert but i think more than ten years. >> more than ten. >> that would be my guess. >> some people say 30 or 40. >> i wouldn't guess about the length and i'm sure the recommendation that the prosecutor is making is going to be part of this bargain. a lot of americans think that snowden did the country a service in these leaks and that's going to be a tough issue for the justice department. >> let's move on and talk about david petraeus. he pled guilty to removing and retaining classified information as part of a plea deal a misdemeanor, if you will. they are going to recommend no jail time for him, i think a $40,000 fine. the classified information included war strategy notes from national security meetings. some are already saying there's a double standard here. one standard for him a four-star general, another for other who is violated classified information. >> i don't buy that for a heartbeat. look find me something that the general told people that reached the public domain and damaged national security. this is not the story of a leak or a trial. this is the story of an american tragedy. he's a legendary general, he designed counter insurgency policy for iraq. i think the penalty matches the crime. we should see redemption in this case. this guy is an american hero and made a tragic mistake. >> he acknowledges the information was violated now with his girlfriend. what do you think, mr. speaker? >> listen i don't know all what he did but i think it sets a bad precedence. >> what sets a bad precedence? >> only having this kind of a fine. you look at what libby went through, what we did to a lot of other people. again, on the other hand general petraeus has dedicated his entire life to the country and has done a remarkable job 365 days a year for a long time. >> so one standard david, for war heroes and another for lesser officials? is that what i'm hearing here? >> you can't have a double standard. the leverage that general petraeus had in this negotiation through his lawyers is that bringing him to trial, bringing him before a jury would have been a nightmare for the prosecution. you almost were certain to lose. i think the a the end of the day they got him to plead guilty to a misdemeanor. the fact he had to be in some way accused of the like. >> mr. speaker, the president says he heard nothing new in prime minister netanyahu's speech today, just a rehash of something that he said before. >> well, that could be true. the president's ability to ignore information is amazing. what he should have heard was a very sobering end to the speech where prime minister netanyahu said people need to understand if necessary, israel will go alone. i think the prime minister came here because he generally believes israel's very survival is at stake. he has enormous fear of the iranians and believes this administration is about to cut a very bad deal. his first goal is to defeat it in the congress but his second goal, i suspect, is to take steps to defeat -- >> i heard that david. at the very end of the speech sort of vailed threat. i heard that same sort of veiled threat that israel would use military force. >> i heard that too. i think after the speech the obama administration and netanyahu are on a collision course even more than before. i wrote today that this is a zero sum game. either one wins or another wins. that's not a good situation. >> thanks guys very very much. more breaking news ahead. a damning report on the ferguson police department. systematic discrimination against african-americans and we're also learning disturbing details from our own sources. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira giving me new perspective. doctors have been prescribing humira for ten years. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers including lymphoma have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. talk to your doctor and visit humira.com this is humira at work if a denture were to be put under a microscope we can see all the bacteria that still exists. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher brighter denture every day. you're driving along, having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pick-up truck slams into your brand new car. one second it wasn't there and the next second... boom! you've had your first accident. now you have to make your first claim. so you talk to your insurance company and... boom! you're blindsided for a second time. they won't give you enough money to replace your brand new car. don't those people know you're already shaken up? 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>> wolf we expect this report will be made public tomorrow. the justice department met with officials from ferguson this afternoon to tell them what they are about to publish and really this portrays a department that has deep deep problems. i'll give you a few statistics from the report that is going to be revealed tomorrow. 85% of the vehicle stops from 2012 to 2014 the justice department took a look at their books. 85% were of african-americans. 93% of arrests were of african-americans. 90% of citations were of african-americans. again, going back to michael brown and the incident there, the killing of michael brown by a police officer, 88% of use of force the ferguson department use of force was against african-americans. you can see that what people were protesting there was something that there was a problem with the police department. >> the city itself ferguson about 67% african-american. the police force was about 60 police officers, only two of them african-american. the rest white. daryl parks, you represent the michael brown family. what's their reaction? >> well certainly it is finally they get some sense of justice for what happened to michael. and think about it wolf when michael was killed back in august you knew nothing about the background of this department. now we know a lot more about what was going on in that department especially when you think about how race played such a big role in he path turn the practices of this department as well as the extensive use of force issue, which certainly is something that we claim as it relates to michael brown's death from his death in august. >> so jeffrey, where do we go from here? the report comes out tomorrow. then what? >> the justice department will go to the ferguson officeholders and say, look, let's make a deal an arrangement, a settlement known as a consent decree where you will change your practices, your training, your policies perhaps your leadership. and then we will put in monitors who will make sure that you keep to the deal. alternatively, if ferguson doesn't go for that the justice department will go to court and have a judge force those changes, they'll argue, on ferguson. so those are the two options. >> antonio french you're active in the community, obviously. what changes would you like to see? does this report based on what we know right now, from your perspective, go far enough? >> i think this report confirms what a lot of us already knew which is that ferguson along with other municipalities around ferguson engages in that activity that wedges a divide between the community and police department. what i do want to see is not just a reform of the ferguson police department but reforming how we police in the missouri area. at least a dozen municipalities engage in identical or worse behavior. >> i'm sure this is going on elsewhere around the country as well. >> the biggest problem, wolf if you hire police officers that are racist once they are on the department it's too late. the only thing you can hope for there is that the punishment when they behave as a racist is severe enough to discourage them from doing it and even in spite of what they think, do the right thing on the street. if you're hiring bad police officers from the very beginning, it's the hiring the training, internal discipline. it's all of those things. what this report is finding is systemic mismanagement by the police department and city official sdpls officials. >> and policies too. ferguson is not alone in this. using arrests to make money for the municipality, that is a huge issue, not just in ferguson all over the country, where individuals, often african-americans are being essentially forced to subsidize the rest of the state. >> daryl parks, you represent the michael brown family. what do you think, what is going to be the impact of this? >> well it's a big impact. i think for all of the people who have been in ferguson fighting for justice and fighting for some type of action to take place, this is a big step in that direction, wolf. for the racial bias that has taken place there, for the excessive use of force issues the poll teas and procedure issues that have existed there, now it gets a positive movement on behalf of the department of justice which his family welcomes. >> antonio french what do you think should happen to the ferguson police chief, thomas jackson? >> i said six months ago that i thought mr. jackson should resign and now i think he should just be fired. some of the facts laid out in this report clearly shows a pattern of mismanagement and this city cannot heal as long as he's in that position. >> what do you think, daryl? >> without question i think that certainly there should be some changes in the leadership of this department. that's up to the city to do but clearly this report clearly calls out for major change in the police department. >> tom fuentes, they have to get more african-americans on that force, too. they can't almost have just a white police force in a community that's 67% african-american. >> not only for the diversity and the hiring but character profile, not hire racist or brutal cops or crooked cops and that starts right at the beginning before you train them, before you go through any part of their career you have to hire the right people in the first place. >> evan the attorney general wanted this report out before he leaves. he's about to step down. he's leaving in the next few days right? >> right. he promised justice for michael brown and, sadly, for his family you know they are not going to get what they thought they wanted which is charges against the officer, darren wilson. they are going to have to settle for this which is reform of the police department. you know it goes beyond ferguson though. i've been down there and you can see how the small towns up and down that road and they all basically impose a tax on black motorists as they go up and down that road. so it's not just ferguson. >> we're going to stay on top of the story. just ahead, the white house re reacting to hillary clinton's e-mail scandal. did she put security at risk by using a personal account during her four years as secretary of state? when it comes to good nutrition...i'm no expert. that would be my daughter -- hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. 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>> reporter: it's raising questions about whether she skirted the federal records act. the white house says clinton followed the rules. >> the policy as a general matter allows individuals to use their personal e-mail address as long as those e-mails are maintained and sent to the state department which if you ask secretary clinton's team that's what they completed in the last month or two. >> reporter: in 2014 clinton and her team turned over tens of thousands of her e-mails to the state department. political opponents are hammering her. jeb bush tweeted transparency matters. he released thousands of e-mails from his time as governor of florida. like clinton, he used a personal e-mail address and he was able to choose which e-mails to release. a clinton spokesman said the letter and spirit of the rules permitted state department officials to use non-government e-mail as long as appropriate records were reserved. experts say there may be no way to identify it. >> when you delete that and go to your trash box, it's gone. there's no more recovering it. all that information is destroyed. >> we're not talking about classified e-mails. these were not classified that secretary clinton was typing out on her personal e-mail account. at the same time there's a big security issue here. you wouldn't want to breach a unclassified e-mails either. >> gloria give us a perspective how big of a deal is this? >> i think we don't really know yet. we don't know all the details. this is less a question of whether secretary of state clinton violated any specific laws when she violated them if she did and all the rest of it. i think what this is really about is answering the question why. why did they decide to do this? was it to protect her? was it to be evasive? was it more convenient? we just don't know the answer to that question. once they answer the question maybe it will make sense. >> how are republicans acting? >> they are jumping on it. the interesting reaction are from her fellow democrats. those in congress desperate to keep it in democratic hands in 2016 are very concerned. they're not unaware of the clinton baggage of not wanting to put things forward of not being transparent. because she's so well known and the clinton name is known that way, they're worried this is like mitt romney 47% in that. people already had in their mind a narrative of mitt romney a certain way, it's the same for hillary clinton. this will feed the idea she's hiding something and they live by different standards and rules. they're worried about it. >> a lot of experts have said if these were private e-mail accounts that didn't necessarily have the security from hacking, cyber warfare. she's doing official state department business. >> from hacking and encryption. a clinton aids told me she was using this e-mail before she became secretary of state and she just continued to use it. >> she knew the job. >> you do change jobs. i lot of people might have issue with that argument. she need a reboot. she needs to show she's not pressing right up against the edge of these boundaries. >> she hasn't booted yet. >> that part of the problem. >> you're right. here is a for instance that i think is important to focus on. there was a 2009 regulation that she would have been falling under at this time. if you're using private e-mail to do government business then it needs to go on the state department recordkeeping system. here is the catch. there's no time line on when you need to do that. technically, you could wait 80 years before you do it. >> she went to compliance. that's the spirit of the law. >> how are all these e-mails, they say they turned over 55,000 pages. >> 55,000 pages. >> at cnn that would be one day of e-mails. she turned over 55,000 pages of e-mails. who curated those e-mails? >> and to that point, just talking raw politics i've talked to some democrats who are big hillary supporters and they're concern is their frfgs is they didn't know the answers because her campaign hasn't started yet. she has a small official team around her. she doesn't have the apparatus to help dig into this. >> i was talking to her for jeb bush. i don't know that it changes anybody's minds. there's the group that wants answers. >> remember, you can follow us on twitter. tweet me at wolf blitzer. you can tweet the show. join us tomorrow right here in "the situation room." you can watch us live or dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. i'll be back in an hour filling in for anderson. until then thanks very much for watching. breaking news. reports of junegunshots fired near the national security agency. president obama firing back at israeli prime minister netanyahu. who's right on the deal with iran? the justice department delivering a scathing report on the ferguson police department charging a pattern of racism and putting out internal e-mails with racist jokes about the president in them. we'll show you. let's go outfront.
they planned to hijack a jet liner and force it to fly to isis territory. >> agents say one talked about assassinating president obama. here's what we know about the suspects. one of them is a 24-year-old from kazakhstan. pamela brown reports. >> reporter: the fbi says one of the men arrested today boasted about wanting to kill president obama and blow up coney island in new york city. another man proposed shooting police and fbi agents. a plan they allegedly said they would put into place if they weren't able to join isis in syria. >> two of the individuals were seeking to fly to syria. one was arrested at the international airport at jfk as he was getting ready to board that flight. a second individual had a later flight scheduled. >> reporter: prosecutors point to conversations on line including one last summer which one wrote about his desire to shoot obama and then get shot ourselves. that will strike fear in the heart of infidels. that brought fbi agents to his front door. >> they came as members of the joint terrorism task force, they identified them as such. >> reporter: even after being interviewed by fbi they investigators say they began coordinating travel to turkey often seen as a gateway into syria. >> to prove a conspiracy you only have to show that there's been a material effort or forward step in furtherance of the conspiracy. and clearly, those communications would indicate that there's been a forward step in the conspiracy. >> reporter: in court documents released both suspects purchased round trip tickets to turkey. they said if they were defected at the airport, they could kill a police officer and shoot other officers with the gun. >> more on this story later this hour and we'll speak with one expert how isis is using social media better than any other terror group has done before and luring young people from all around the world. the human rights activist who said isis kidnapped 150 syrian christians is now expecting a message soon about their fate. also syrian activists say an australian fighting with kurdish forces has been killed in a battle against isis. plus jordan is increasing security at shopping malls as well based on what the u.s. is calling credible threats. here's our barbara starr with more. >> reporter: iraq says their defense forces have nearly liberated al baghdadi the town in western iraq that isis has gripped for weeks. it's just a few miles from the air base where hundreds of american troops are on a training mission. for now, a victory for iraqi units. just outside irbil, italian, german and dutch troops training front line peshmerga forces. it's still unclear whether the next big battle will be to retake mosul, iraq's second largest city. amid worry iraqi forces still are not ready. >> if you go in there, it's going to be tough fighting and if you lose, or even if you have a stalemate, it looks like a victory for isis. >> reporter: iraqi forces could first take on isis in western iraq, which is 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the pentagon working on classified efforts to challenge isis in cyberspace tracking its encrypted web and social media accounts. >> that work is just beginning and because it's live and we're in a wartime situation, that's not going to be an area we can talk about in a lot of detail. >> reporter: on that upcoming ground battle if u.s. forces are going to be involved president obama is going to need to see a recommendation from the u.s. military in the coming days. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> many thanks to our barbara starr for our report. we are also following some news out of afghanistan. the taliban has claimed responsibility for an explosion outside the iranian embassy in kabul thursday morning. this is a new video just coming in. you can see smoke pouring out of that vehicle. a police spokesman says a suicide bomber blew up a car after crashing into another vehicle. at least one civilian was killed and another one was injured, as well. winter storm warnings have been 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reliable network, what are you giving up? verizon. the controversy over next week's visit to washington by the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu continues to heat up. >> he'll be at the capitol where he's planning to speak. israel views iran's nuclear program as a threat to its security. take a listen. >> translator: from the agreement coming together it appears that they have given up on this commitment and they are accepting with iran gradually, in a few years, would develop the means to create fissile material for the production of very many nuclear weapons. >> that was benjamin netanyahu there. u.s. secretary of state john kerry is cautioning and to wait and see what negotiations produce. >> i regrettably can't talk about it as much as i would love to talk about it because we don't have a deal yet. and so i am not going to go into great lengths and detail here for that reason and i would caution others not to be running around combatting the deal that hasn't been made. >> republican house speaker john boehner invited mr. netanyahu to washington. but he did not consult the white house. some u.s. democratic lawmakers plan to skip the prime minister's address next week because they say it will directly oppose diplomatic efforts with iran. meantime three al jazeera journalists have been arrested for flying drones over paris. but the city's prosecutor's office say they are not connected to the recent string of mysterious drone sightings over city land marks. >> authorities are trying to figure out who was flying those drones and why. and with the market for drones booming, will ripley looks at the growing security fears. >> reporter: we know they have them. isis propaganda shows the terror group using drones with chilling sophistication. gathering aerial intelligence on potential targets. in paris, mysterious drone sightings over famous landmarks are sparking new fears. more than five drones spotted two nights in a row. france on high security alert after january's terror attacks. france still searching for whoever flew drones over more than a dozen nuclear plants last year the late nest a series of high profile drone disruptions. in january, a small drone evaded secret service radar crashing on white house grounds. the incident raised serious security questions. >> we had a drone come within 50 feet of us. >> reporter: new york police arrested a man who flew a drone dangerously close to a helicopter. a texas student was questioned after flying a drone of this football game. >> you can take a chemical agent and it would kill people and fly it into a stadium. >> reporter: former cia officer bob baer says there's no intelligence on what they may be going to be with drones. >> with enough time and experience you could kill people with a drone. >> reporter: drone technology is a multibillion dollar industry with models starting at less than $500. new york city photographers uses donees to take pictures. he says the vast majority of operators are responsible. >> we're not interested in creating fear or invading anyone's privacy. we're looking as photographers for those images that you can't get in any other vehicle. >> reporter: but as the market gross, so do the number of people with access to drones including those who seek to do harm from above. will ripley cnn, new york. >> regulators need to come up with advancing drone technology. they have been behind the curve. >> the technology often gets in front of the regulations, that's the problem. some of the biggest names in music gathered in london wednesday night. >> it was a big night. it was the final number getting all of the attention. how the mighty have fallen. >> reporter: her performance was sure to be dramatic. but 20 years since madonna last performed on this stage, fell flat. though she took a nasty tumble following a wardrobe malfunction. soon she was calming the nerves of her millions of followers, telling her that her cape was tied too tight. even before the show, she was the star attraction. ♪ celebration, come together in every nation ♪ ♪ like a virgin ♪ >> you must trust within you the beast that's forever dying. >> reporter: before her falling, it started out as the battle of the british boys. with sam smith, and george ezra facing off in the top categories. the fans turned out for selfies and autographs. but everybody wondered which englishman would come out on top. five-time grammy winner sam was very complimentary about ed. how much competition is there between you two? or is it more as a bromance? >> i adore him as a person and friend and i really want him to walk away with that thing. >> reporter: they took two each of the statues. the show itself was sprinkled with star dust quite literally. in the case of taylor swift's performance. kanye west was a late addition to the bill and whipped fans into a frenzy when he dropped in a restaurant on his way to the show. it was his performance that set the stage alight. surrounded by modern dancers and fiery flame throwers. a night of heart stopping performances. >> of course the twitter verse lit up after madonna's fall. most of the messages seem to be sympathetic, but there were a couple of mean ones as well. >> cher tweeted, this is something we all dread. i give you props. you are a champ for finishing. i couldn't agree more. >> piers morgan -- any way, he tweeted out, ambulance for granny please. not very nice. >> boy george shot back at all the trolls. he said that was a hard fall, but she got on with it. all these comments about her being so old, so lame. i agree. she's 56. but the fact that she did that dance and did those movements, good on her. >> she is 56. after we saw the video in the newsroom we decided to show other videos of celebrity falling down. >> there is jennifer lawrence slipping on the red carpet last year. this spill came one year after j-lo tripped in the middle of the oscar ceremony while accepting the award for best actress. >> conan o'brien took a tumble while recording this sketch right here back in 2009. he suffered a slight -- >> ouch! >> -- concussion. >> and then there's beyonce. i remember this. she tripped and fell while walking down. she barely missed a beat. such a professional. ability o'reilly is facing more controversy he made as a reporter decades ago. this time though it involves a u.s. president. plus a family in the u.s. desperately awaits word on the fate of their syrian christian relatives, now in the hands of isis. stay with us. welcome back to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. just after 1:30 here on the east coast of the u.s. i'm john vause. >> and i'm zain asher. three men are facing terror charges in new york for plans to hijack a jet liner and join isis. the fbi says one of the men talked about assassinating president obama. two of the suspects planned to fly to turkey on wednesday. the third man helped organize and finance the operation. it appears a cease-fire in eastern ukraine is starting to take hold. russian separatists have begun to withdraw heavy weapons from the front line but ukraine's military will wait a little longer but no reports of combat casualties on wednesday. the taliban are claiming responsibility for a blast in kabul. the explosion killed at least one person and injured another. a police spokesman says a suicide bomber blew up a car after kraushing into another vehicle. returning now to our top story. the three men charged with providing material support to isis. for more, clark jones joins us. he's a counterterrorism expert. clark, thanks for being with us. the big picture here these three men appear to have been recruited online. isis' capability on social media seems nothing short of remarkable. what does that tell you about the people who are running this terror group? >> it's probably one of the most sophisticated groups we've been seeing. they've been able to reach into many pockets, vulnerable areas in society, to pick up these marginalized kids all around the world. it is very -- it's phenomenal to be able to do it and continue to do it. >> one of these suspects says -- his lawyer says he's just a young, innocent kid, and he makes his point there's just a rush to prosecution. is that a fair thing to say? >> we've seen it with the recent australian government national security statement was read out. there's been a push in many countries to jail these kids. and we're talking kids as young as 16 17 through to the mid 20s. that's the range of the type of offenders. but the worst thing we can do in many cases is put them into jail. jail does not help these people. if we're going to do anything about this terrorism threat we need to look at how we counter extremism, and what sort of intervention programs we develop. once they're in jail, it's very difficult. so we can look at diversionary programs. i think that's a good strategy. >> clark jones for us there in australia. >> >> 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how have they tried in the past to defend themselves from isis? >> there's some local forces called the guards of habor. those guards have been involved in protecting the village and the properties the houses particularly the civilians. so that was mainly their job. but when they were attacked by isis they didn't know how to face it because they've not trained or experienced. they're not a militia member. they were just doing their job as police you can say, local police guarding the cities. >> so they're relatively peaceful. i know some of them were fighting alongside the syrian kurds, the ypg. the remaining assyrian christians in that region i understand they fled. i understand some of them are holed up in a cathedral. what are you hearing about them? are they safe right now? >> yeah they're safe. the number is increasing more and more. yesterday night, the latest numbers we get from them was 1,050 families. so we are talking actually about more than 6,000, at least 5,000, 6,000 people who are displaced. so they're basically in two churches churches. 150 families have left. already also some assyrian political parties, ngos and local groups aid relief groups that are taking care of them. >> i understand that your wife also has some relatives in that area. were they among the people who had fled and are safe or what are you hearing from them? are they okay? >> unfortunately, i'm trying my best to be as professional as possible and objective as possible. but at the same time i'm involved myself. my wife belongs to this city and i myself belong to the city. both of the cities are facing bad times. yesterday night, we are being told that there were the isis forces were using some speakers and they were playing all the night the koran. people could hear that from far away. actually yes, what i'm trying to be professional and also having -- feeling sad, because my family the family members are really taken hostage, and we don't know what's going to happen to them are they going to face death? are they going to be released? nobody knows. yesterday night, we were called up we had been informed two of the hostages had been released. but everything disappeared, because those two hostages didn't arrive as planned to arrive to the cathedral. so this was some hope but now we don't have any hope left. >> so your family members or relatives have been taken hostage. i'm so sorry to hear that. please keep in touch with us and let us know what happens to them. i cannot imagine what you're going through. asama edward thank you for being with us. we appreciate that. thank you. john? fox news host bill o'reilly is defending himself, again, against accusations that he over overexaggerated or flat out lead about some of his reporting. he has strong ratings and the network continues to stand by him. but in the '70s and '80s he was a correspondent for cbs news. now he's defending himself against comments he made and published about the assassination of former u.s. president john f. kennedy. >> reporter: just as bill o'reilly was trying to move on from a dispute over his war stories, the fox news host suddenly has more questions to answer. this time the scrutiny is being directed at an account of his investigation into john f. kennedy's assassination. he has said in his book "killing kennedy," that in 1977 a man had been contacted by congressional investigators. o'reilly a reporter for a dallas tv station, says he tracked him down in palm beach and arrived at the door of his daughter's home just as he shot himself. that account is now being called into question by several media outlets, include thing report in the huffington post. this follows a report last week in "mother jones" claiming bill o'reilly exaggerated his reporting experiences in el salvador and while covering the 1982 faulklands war. back in the '80s, he was a young spomt for correspondent for cbs news. over the past week he's denied the allegations and attacked the magazine. >> this man, 56-year-old david corn who works for "mother jones," smeared me your humble correspondent yesterday, saying i fabricated some war reporting. "mother jones," which is low circulation, considered by many the bottom rung of journalism in america. >> reporter: in relation to his reporting in argentina, here is bill o'reilly speaking a few years ago. >> all hell breaks loose, the people start to storm the averagen tine troops shoot the people out in the street. so i grab my crew away. we're shooting all this stuff. it's unbelievable. people just falling, bing bing bing. a soldier runs down the street i'm there. a photographer getting trampled. so he's on the ground. i grab him and the camera and i drag him in a doorway. the soldier comes up and he's standing maybe ten feet away with the m-16 pointed at my head. >> reporter: this is cnn video of the riots in question. last weekend, cnn's reliable sources spoke with seven people who worked for cbs news in argentina at the time. none of them remember any civilians being killed in the riot. many of those who spoke with reliable sources still work for cbs and have requested to remain anonymous. but former cbs correspondent eric angberg is speaking out publicly. he was there at the same time as bill o'reilly during the faulklands war. >> i did not see that happen. >> reporter: here he is talking on reliable sources. >> it wasn't a combat situation, by any sense of the word that i know. there were no people killed. he said that he saw troops fire into the crowd. i never saw that and i don't know anybody who did. and i was there on the scene. what's interesting is not only did i not hear any shots, i didn't see any ambulances or any tanks, i didn't see any armored cars. all of the things that you would have expected to see had people been shot. >> reporter: and the magazine is standing by its claims. here's "mother jones'" senior editor. >> there was only one place that combat took place during that war, it was on the battlefield of the faulkland islands, which was 1200 miles away. part two of this is this riot that he covered. there's no question that this occurred and it got violent, that tear gas was fired and rubber bullets were fired. subsequently after he reported this in recent years, he said that soldiers fired indiscriminately on civilians and many were kid. not only are there no media reports that support this but seven cbs colleagues have come forward and said this didn't happen. >> we couldn't get casualty numbers. >> reporter: bill o'reilly continues to present his evening show on fox news insisting he's done nothing wrong. o'reilly is also facing another allegation that he lied about seeing a group of nuns gunned down in el salvador. he recalled telling his mother about seeing that happen in 2012. >> the public case media matters cites a professor who says there was no noneuns killed at that time. one first grade student had to look no further than his own classroom to find a perfect match for a kidney transfer. that story after the break. the future of prosthetics has arrived. for the first time ever amputees have been given artificial limbs which can be controlled with the mind. >> this video you see is from a patient in austria performing various tests with their new arms. they work by connecting the processsthetic directly to a person's nerves. the technology is not perfect, but with the right training an amputee can move the robotic limb with just their thoughts. incredible. one teacher in texas is demonstrating something that goes well above and beyond reading, writing, and math. it's a lesson in giving. one of her students desperately needed a kidney donor after his initial transfer failed. the rest of the story is nothing short of a christmas miracle. here's emily from our affiliate woai. >> reporter: parker searched the whole country to find matt a kidney. >> like right here. >> reporter: little did they know -- >> anyone would just submit their names. >> reporter: the perfect donor was in their own backyard. >> goldfish goldfish what do you see? >> reporter: lindsey painter -- >> i see a teacher looking at me. it is mind glowing. when the coordinator of the hospital called me on christmas eve to tell me i was a match. >> reporter: several weeks of testing later -- >> looking at us. >> reporter: doctors confirmed she would donate her kidney a decision she did not take lightly. >> i have a 10-year-old and 6-year-old at home and i can't imagine having a child with what matt is going through. >> reporter: his dialysis keeps him alive. yet, that 1,000 watt smile never leaves his face. >> once he found out that he was going to be getting a transplant he's been so giddy every day. he's so excited. >> reporter: it's a bond that will connect students and teachers for the rest of their lives. >> it will be a story to tell when he gets older. . >> she's just a giving person and i think it's a miracle. >> and lindsey painter joins us now from texas. this is such an incredible story. i guess right now, is everything on track for this transplant operation? >> yes, everything is on track, and we're just hoping it stays that way. we have one more cross match to go but god willing, everything will work out the way it's supposed to. >> getting a little nervous? >> i'm ready. of course i'm nervous. it's a major surgery. i just want everything to turn out the best possible way, but i'm ready. >> you make it sound like this was an easy decision. when you were told that you were a match, did you pause for a moment and think, this is kind of a big deal now? >> oh i did. absolutely. i knew when they called and said that we were shown as a preliminary match, i had a lot to learn about what it meant for me and my lifestyle. i needed to make sure i wasn't putting my family at risk and i was making the best decision for all of us. but the more i've learned and the more people i've talked to at the hospital and prior donors the more comfortable i've become. >> what's incredible this is sort of a 1 in 100 chance that you would be a match. matthew, this is his second transplant. >> yes. it's his second transplant because his body rejected one kidney. it made him much harder to match. so the hospital they described it as looking as the needle in the hey stack. they said he would match about 1% of the population. >> what is the prognosis once he receives the kidney and the prognosis for you? >> my recovery time is much easier than his. after about six weeks, i should be good to go back to normal activity. and really they just ask that you live a healthy lifestyle. there's no dietary restrictions. it seems like it's going to be very easy on my end, after recovering from the surgery. matthew, he has a longer recovery but we're hoping that once he recovers that he will be an active, healthy little boy without all the restrictions that he has now. he can go to school every day, play sports go swimming and do all of the things that he's not able to do right now. >> lots of teachers care about their students but this seems way beyond what anyone could expect. many people a lot of people would be asking how can you do something, which is just so incredibly selfless. for a student, not a relative a kid in your class. >> it is. and i have two little boys at home. so watching my little boys being a mom and being a teacher, i knew as soon as he family reached out looking for a donor, i needed to find out if i could help him. once we found out i had a lot to learn, but i just knew i needed to see if i could help him be healthy and live the life he deserves. if you have seen any pictures of him, he has that smile every day. you would never know everything that he's going through and how hard things have been because he has the most positive outlook on life and he's the happiest child you've ever met. so to give him this gift is pretty incredible. >> lindsay, it was a 1 in 100 chance of a match. you have to be 1 in a million out there. and we wish you the very best of luck. >> thank you. >> that story is going to touch so many people. how generous can you be? 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night comedians takes his show on the road to an island whose communist chief normally cracks down on comedy and other freedom, so what was it like to film an entire show in cuba? we'll ask conan o'brien himself right here on "the lead." good afternoon. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin with some breaking news in our national lead today. just minutes ago the u.s. attorney general eric holder finished bullet pointing the results of a department of justice investigation which found routine and systemic racial bias in the ferguson police department. now, the d.o.j. reports details, how police officers essentially arrested black suspects on something like a whim without probable cause. they put guns to people's heads during traffic stops, targeting african-americans for petty violations just to fill the city's coffers. frequently using excessive force against the mentally ill and exclusively sic'ing their police dogs on only black suspects. any minute we will get a response from the city of ferguson missouri about this federal investigation, an investigation that also cleared officer darren wilson of any federal charges in the shooting death of michael brown. i want to bring in cnn's ed lavendera live in ferguson, missouri. eric holder gave truly horrifying examples of discrimination against african-americans there. >> reporter: eric holder called it a searing report but many residents here will tell you this report justifies and really explains what they have known all along. some of the examples in the report that you alluded to that the ferguson police appear to have used police dogs exclusively reserve them for african americans. that black residents were twice as likely as white suspects to be searched by police and also that blacks made up more than 90% of those charged with really minor offenses that could have been just boiled down to like the way they were walking down the street. again, this is something that we have heard repeatedly from people here in ferguson. they say it's no surprise to them. the justice department found a pattern and practice of discrimination against african-americans by both ferguson police and the city's municipal court. the investigation sparked by protests which followed the shooting death of unarmed teenager michael brown by a white police officer, darren wilson was not charged with a crime and will likely not face federal civil rights violations either. >> you have seen the civil disobedience. you have seen the marches. you have seen the protests. this is the type of justice that people are talking about. >> reporter: according to the justice department's report between 2012 and 2014 african-americans accounted for 85% of traffic stops, 90% of citations and 93% of the arrests in ferguson. that despite the fact that african-americans only account for 67% of the population. but that apparent disparity might not tell the whole story. >> when you look at ferguson when you look at the surrounding municipalities around ferguson on one side you have berkeley which is over 80% african-american. on the other side you have jennings which is over 90% african-american. what we don't know is in terms of the people who are stopped, where are they from. >> reporter: perhaps more concerning the evidence of racist jokes being e-mailed by ferguson police and court officials. an e-mail in november 2008 read in part that president barack obama wouldn't likely be president for long because quote, what black man holds a steady job for four years. another joke that an african-american who had an abortion was rewarded by crimestoppers. ferguson officials say they are reviewing the report's findings and are expected to respond shortly but no matter what's in it the co-chairs of the ferguson commission say changes definitely need to be made. >> we need to change training we need to change assessment we need to change the way in which we interact with our citizens. >> reporter: we spoke with one resident here in ferguson today as we were talking to many people about the findings in this report and they relayed the story, this is an elderly woman who said that the city of ferguson had come to her home and said that her car in her driveway was derelict. this was the car she drove every day. she says it was in perfectly fine condition. an old car, but fine nonetheless. the city declared that it was derelict they came one day, she says she witnessed the city tow it away. that was in 2009. she never saw the car again. >> live in ferguson with a very disturbing report. thanks so much. sara sidner is waiting for the city of ferguson's response to the report. any word on what the city might have to say? >> reporter: one of my contacts who was not with the city but in touch with the city says they believe this will happen in the next couple of hours, not right away. we will be there to listen to what the city has to say. i can tell you from past conversations that have been covering this story for the past almost seven months now, been talking back and forth with city officials and with protesters over those many months. just a few days ago they said look, we have been cooperating with the d.o.j. since the beginning, but some of the stuff that has come out recently is embarrassing and damning. if you look at what the d.o.j. has found in e-mails, you look at some of the e-mails talking about the money aspect and for some people seeing this down on paper is a vindication the protesters and some of the residents saying look we are vindicated. we have been talking about this problem for a long time. we have been frustrated by it for a long time and this just shows what we have been saying is actually true because the d.o.j. has been able to pull some of these e-mails and facts together. i can also tell you this. we have heard from the family now, from the brown family and they are responding to both things the d.o.j. has brought up today, both the fact that they are not going to be charging darren wilson with any kind of civil rights violations but that they are bringing some other sort of action. here is what the family of michael brown has said both his mother and his father. she says while we are saddened by the decision they are talking about the decision not to bring charges against darren wilson we are encouraged that the d.o.j. will hold the ferguson police department accountable for the pattern of racial bias and profiling they found in their handling of interactions with people of color. it is our hope that through this action true change will come not only in ferguson but around the country. so that is their comment for now. i just got this information just a few minutes ago from someone who is aware of this meeting that's supposed to happen. between a representative of the department of justice who is here in the st. louis area and the family of michael brown, as well as some of the protest leaders. we are hearing that that will also happen today. they will have a private meeting with the representative from the d.o.j. that's new news just coming to us now. >> sara thank you so much. of course when the city of ferguson does issue their response to that scathing d.o.j. report we will bring that to you live. now let's turn to the major winter storm that will hit most of the united states. we are talking nearly 100 million of you are in the path of this storm. it is intense. it stretches from new mexico all the way up to the northeast. some of you are going to get freezing rain. others are going to get at least a foot of snow. that is of course bound to create dangerous streets, some air travel nightmares and we are now seeing the beginning of that happening now. let's go to meteorologist jennifer gray. jennifer we could see this system ramp up and cause even more problems tomorrow, i'm guessing, yes? >> absolutely. this could be the most snow d.c. has seen in the past five years. so this is a big one. it is going to come quickly. you can see the peak that's ice along the i-20 corridor stretching up through portions of north carolina virginia and then snow to the north, and that goes all the way up to the northeast. we do have that winter storm threat in place all the way from eastern new mexico and that stretches all the way through d.c. philly and even new york. so we are going to get a lot of snow with this. we are also going to see ice once again in some of those southern states like texas, arkansas even into places like memphis. we are also going to see a huge temperature drop. temperatures were spring-like, even summer-like across the south today. in a matter of hours, those temperatures are going to fall by 30 40 degrees. we have areas in georgia that are currently in the mid 70s and they have a winter weather advisory in place. so absolutely unreal. we are also going to see the possibility, four to six inches of snow across places in arkansas and western portions of kentucky and tennessee, and you can see that also stretches all the way up to d.c. could see four to eight inches there in d.c. we are also looking at that ice threat could see power outages, especially with the windy conditions across places in the south. >> snow day tomorrow. thank you, jennifer gray. appreciate it. cnn's rene marsh is now at reagan national airport right outside washington, d.c. we have more than 1500 flights canceled already nationwide? this storm is going to be a huge problem for air travel. >> reporter: it certainly is, jake. add on to tomorrow when you take a look there, more than 1500 flights already canceled. here at reagan national airport, you can see all of the red, those are the delays. even though the weather has not officially made its way to us yet, we are already starting to see the impact in the way of cancellations as well as delays. so the cities being impacted the most we are talking about dallas chicago, philadelphia newark laguardia of course in dallas places like that where ice is going to be an issue, there is going to be lots of de-icing so expect some delays and of course cancellations as a result of that because as we know, ice and flying just do not mix. we are talking about roughly another 48 hours after the storm moves before things get back into gear and people will be able to get to their destinations but we know that what airlines are doing now these days is they are canceling before the weather even arrives because what they do not want people stuck in airports and sleeping. so what you want to do is you want to call your carrier if you are flying. i am flying tomorrow fingers crossed. a lot of them what they are doing is allowing you to change your flight free of charge because they know this bad weather is on the way. but again, more than 1,000, more than 1500 are already canceled for tomorrow. >> rene marsh. you think you're flying tomorrow. interesting. good luck with that. >> reporter: i think i am. think positive. the world lead now. dodging high-powered military weapons and hidden home-made bombs, iraqi fighters make huge gains against isis in that key battle to take back a strategic city. it sounds like good news right? 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"the post" says this young man was taken into custody on friday. the agents raided his townhouse in woodbridge virginia. we have a map there. it's only about 23 miles south of washington. they led him out in handcuffs and cited a source familiar with the case and his neighbors for that information. but again, no longer shocking because terrorism experts are telling us isis is skewing younger and younger with their target demographic. they are targeting younger and younger kids with the development of social media and the way isis now uses social media. younger and younger people can gravitate toward it. it is surprising the 17-year-old wasn't just a recruit but a recruiter. again, the way they are targeting people these days one top fbi official told us last week they have seen someone in the united states as young as 15 years old being recruited by isis. so this is getting more disturbing as these young recruits get younger and younger. >> more details to come. thank you so much. appreciate it. we will stay with the war against isis. fierce fighting between iraqi security forces and isis terrorists continues as the ground campaign to retake the key enemy stronghold of tikrit is reaching a crucial stage. iraq has not asked the u.s.-led coalition for air cover during this operation but they are getting military assistance from of all places iran's revolutionary guard. cnn's barbara starr joins us at the pentagon with the latest. there have been several attempts before to recapture tikrit. it fell to isis last summer. is this coalition making any progress? >> reporter: this new, very interesting coalition. well right now all the indications are any progress in tikrit is a bit mixed, if you will but it's interesting because for the first time today, the white house openly acknowledged that iran is helping. iraqi soldiers and shia militias fight isis near tikrit. some of the action captured on a helmet-mounted camera. many here are iran's shia forces. what isn't here the u.s. no coalition bombs are falling. iraq's shia government did not want american help. as the u.s. spends more than $8 million a day to fight isis this battle now a potentially dire litmus test of iraq's sectarian divide. shia fighters liberating a sunni town. >> sectarianism is one of the things that concerns me very much and of course it's the root of the iranian presence in iraq. >> there's a strong likelihood as they move on tikrit and perhaps on mosul that you could have a total disintegration of the entire country. >> this is why we need to watch very carefully what's going on in tikrit. >> reporter: the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff warning the u.s. effort could be at risk. >> if this becomes an excuse to ethnic cleanse, our campaign has a problem. >> reporter: warning signs to watch for -- >> suddenly you start seeing all kinds of sunni tribal sons being thrown into jail without any evidence of something they did wrong. that would be problematic. >> reporter: if tikrit goes badly, the u.s. hope that iraqi forces would soon move to retake mosul, iraq's second largest city could be delayed for months. perhaps the most crucial decision still to be made could dempsey recommend u.s. troops be on the ground in iraq or even in syria. >> if the commander on the ground approaches either me or the secretary of defense and believes that the introduction of special operations forces to accompany iraqis or the new syrian forces if we believe that's necessary to achieve our objectives we will make that recommendation. >> reporter: agents say dempsey was speaking hypothetically but two weeks ago, the pentagon was already talking about it. >> this is an area that's actively under discussion right now, what manner of support would we give to these trained opposition numbers when they go back into syria. >> reporter: but as for iran's help there is another scenario a more optimistic one, if iran is able to help the iraqi forces really recapture tikrit could it provide some momentum for those iraqi forces to then move on and actually go to mosul. it's an optimistic scenario at this point. jake? >> barbara starr at the pentagon. up next on "the lead," new revelations that hillary clinton not only used a personal e-mail account exclusively during her time as secretary of state, but that she ran her own e-mail server out of her home. some republican members of congress are dropping the s word as in subpoenas. plus the suspect in the boston marathon terrorist attack who once proclaimed his innocence is now saying he did it. why is he changing his story now? ♪ [upbeat music] ♪ defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. easily absorbed calcium plus d. now in a new look. congratulations. you're down with crestor. yes! when diet and exercise aren't enough, adding crestor lowers bad cholesterol up to 55%. crestor is not for people with liver disease or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor all medicines you take. call your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness, feel unusually tired have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark urine or yellowing of skin or eyes. these could be signs of serious side effects. i'm down with crestor! make your move. ask your doctor about crestor. welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. time now for our politics lead. as we speak, a house committee is drafting up subpoenas for hillary clinton's personal e-mails. republican lawmakers want to know whether the former secretary of state omitted anything related to benghazi when she turned over some 55,000 pages of correspondence all of it from a private e-mail account. today, the associated press reported clinton, who used that account as her sole means to conduct public business via e-mail ran the entire system from her own private server. clinton's defenders say their boss did nothing nefarious. let's bring in cnn senior political correspondent brianna keilar. clinton keynoted an event at a liberal women's group last night in d.c. one of the final songs pumped over the loud speaker was taylor swift's "shake it off." you think she will be able to shake this off so easily? >> last night it was as if she kind of -- she was shaking it off but no right now this thing continues to move and it looks like it will go that way for awhile. the big revelation today is that clinton possesses a private server for her private e-mail account that she used while she was secretary of state. we asked her team multiple times today for a response to this revelation. so far, no comment. as news that hillary clinton relied solely on her personal e-mail to conduct government business while secretary of state consumed washington she headlined a fund-raiser with no mention of the controversy. >> don't you some day want to see a woman president of the united states of america? >> reporter: wednesday morning, the associated press reported not only did clinton use private e-mail she owns the server that sent and received them. an aide said her use of private e-mail is nothing nefarious but political observers say it's unseemly. >> those are our documents. they are not hers. for some reason she thinks that those e-mails are hers and for some reason she thinks she cannot have to play by the rules that everybody else has to. i suspect voters at the end of the day, if they don't clear this up will have a problem. >> reporter: experts say clinton went to unusual lengths to keep her communications private, but even jeb bush owned his own server. he says clinton should release her e-mails as he did with 275,000, though not all of his e-mails from his time as florida governor. it's a sensitivity for many politicians. so much so even the comedy thief has dealt with the topic. >> i have made the decision we are going to release all of our correspondence full disclosure is now the name of the game. mike will fill you in on the rest of it. >> obviously it is not going to be full disclosure okay? it's going to be partial disclosure, light. >> reporter: clinton turned over 55,000 pages of e-mails to the state department last year according to an aide and a department official. e-mails her team deemed relevant. the white house is standing by clinton. >> if in fact secretary clinton's team did what they say they did, and that is reviewed her e-mail collected all of her personal e-mail that was related to her official government work and turned that over to the state department so that they could properly preserve and maintain it that would be consistent with the federal records act. >> reporter: but after all this trouble, it's a wonder clinton didn't take her own advice. caught in 2000 on home video and aired by abc news. now the question is how does hillary clinton get past this? some suggestions we have heard include opening up her e-mail perhaps to someone in charge of compliance at the state department so that they can verify what she's released make sure that it's everything. at this point we don't know what the plan is and we haven't heard from her team. >> brianna thank you so much. i want to bring in former deputy press secretary for hillary clinton, karen finney and kevin madden former advisor for mitt romney. the clinton folks trying to dunplay this. congress saying they are going to investigate it. can hillary clinton avoid personally addressing this personally for long? >> she has said she will appear in front of the committee so i suspect if they ask the question in that context, she will answer that question. but i think part of what the clinton folks are doing that i think is wise when the story first came out, we had kind of a different version from the "new york times" than what we later learned in terms of the legality of what she did or did not do. i think it's an important point. she did not break any laws. even the person who was quoted in the first story corrected himself today and made that clear. >> kevin, i know republicans are making a lot of hay out of this but there are plenty of republicans, including many 2016 contenders who also have transparency issues. even jeb bush who released 250,000 e-mails from his time as governor still has not released hundreds of thousands of others. is this really an issue that republicans can afford to talk about? >> sure. look i think the reason that it's going to continue to be an issue is i don't think the clinton folks are handling it very well. i think also the contrast still works in republicans' favor. 250,000 e-mails by jeb bush versus 50,000 from -- >> 55,000. >> sorry, 55,000 from clinton. that's still a good comparison when you are jeb bush and the republicans. the other thing is why would you set it up in the first place. it could be argued and i think it's a very easy argument to make to the public that the reason that that e-mail was set up was to evade any sort of public disclosure. here's -- >> it wasn't a secret. >> here's the biggest problem. >> jeb bush released e-mails -- >> here's the bigger problem. a lot of it fits neatly with people's suspicions about hillary clinton which is that she is constantly secretive and she is somehow above the law. i think that really hurts them when they are trying to fight back on this. >> this is the problem i have with that. you are going on the presumption something she did was against the law. it is not against the law. >> the rule says. >> it was updated in 2013 and 2014. >> you should use the state department for official business. >> colin powell used personal e-mail for official business. >> if you want to litigate that with the american public go ahead. >> you hold her to a different standard. you are suggesting she's doing something different than what others did. i'm saying that's not true. b, you are also suggesting that jeb gets held or scott walker or chris christie gets held to a different standard with regard to their e-mails than she should be with her e-mails. >> would you argue there's a big difference? >> i hear what you're saying from a political perspective but i'm saying let's just be honest it's a different standard. >> we are here to talk about the political perspective. >> let's also be honest. >> would you agree 250,000 e-mails being released proactively is very different from 50,000 being turned over? >> i think that is a wise political strategy on the part of jeb bush. he released a lot of what was already out there and he has his own problems with regard to transparency. if i give you what you already have and pat myself on the back for being transparent? >> the other thing that's telling here is the clinton response. they do two things any time they are in trouble. they automatically distract and try to demonize critics. i think that is really something the public is largely going to pick up on. >> i just don't think this is going to be a real issue once we get to the point of the campaign actually starting. i'm not surprised, trey dowdy said he is not smart enough earlier on the air today to know whether or not she broke the law, why is he leading the investigation, you know. he's clearly on a witch hunt. that's fine. >> see, there it is. >> there it is. >> distraction and witch hunts. >> i got to end it there. karen finney kevin madden thank you. appreciate it. the passion you both bring to this. the money lead now. four little words in the obamacare law could give critics the death blow they have been looking for to finally have the law overturned leaving millions uninsured. it turns out the white house may have intentionally neglected to put together a backup plan. that story next. in new york state, we're reinventing how we do business so businesses can reinvent the world. from pharmaceuticals to 3d prototyping, biotech to clean energy. whether your business is moving, expanding or just getting started... only new york offers you zero taxes for 10 years with startup ny business incubators that partner companies with universities, and venture capital funding for high growth industries. see how new york can grow your business and create jobs. visit ny.gov/business in our house, we do just about everything online. and our old internet just wasn't cutting it. so i switched us from u-verse to xfinity. they have the fastest, most reliable internet. which is perfect for me, because i think everything should just work. works? works. works! works? works. works. welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. in the money lead today, will millions of americans lose their health insurance because they lose the subsidies? that's one of the issues at stake as the supreme court considers a challenge to the affordable care act, better known as obamacare, the president's signature health care law. the question before the justices is whether the obamacare federal subsidies in 34 states are legal, whether they comply with obamacare law. joining us outside the supreme court to discuss the possible fallout is cnn senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. i know you're good at not bearing stories like this in a bunch of legalese so explain for us if you will what's being argued what's at stake? >> reporter: well the question really is very simple before the court. did the obama administration violate the law, violate its own obamacare law, by offering tax subsidies to the individuals who bought insurance on the federal exchanges in those 34 states. it's a simple question. the answer can get very complicated. >> the decision of course will not come down until may or june but if you will read the tea leaves for us if you would. based on what was being asked and by whom can you figure out where it was leaning? >> reporter: you certainly could figure out where some votes were leaning. six hours ago, almost to the moment, michael carvin the lawyer for the challengers to the law, stood up and he was set upon. the atmosphere was just electric in there. the four democratic appointees all jumped on him, saying he was distorting the meaning of the law. but when the solicitor general defending the law got up justice scalia and alito set upon him. so i would say those six votes along with clarence thomas who almost always votes with scalia and alito, who was silent today, those votes seem to be pretty much set in stone. the real key to this case i think is chief justice roberts and justice kennedy. i think predicting those votes is a lot harder. kennedy seemed somewhat more sympathetic to the obama position than i might have expected and john roberts, in what was for me the biggest surprise of the day, said almost nothing at all, which is very uncharacteristic for him. >> one thing i want to ask you about is i know that the justices are supposedly above politics but you and i know and the viewers know it's not exactly that simple. i heard it prognosticated by pundits, none with your expertise, but nonetheless, saying the supreme court is probably preparing, people like kennedy, to rule in favor of same sex marriage again and therefore, they might pull back and not support obamacare this time as roberts did last time roberts of course taking a lot of heat from conservatives for ruling in favor of obamacare last time. do they even think that way or is it not that way at all? >> reporter: whether they admit it or not, it is very much on the minds of everyone around the supreme court. think about what happened two years ago. they struck down the defense of marriage act in the edith windsor case a great victory for progressives but the next day, they struck down the core of the voting rights act. a great victory for conservatives. a real balance here. in fact one reason why a lot of obama supporters were so upset that the court took this case is for just that reason. they thought they give with one hand on same sex marriage because a lot of people think that there are five votes to have same sex marriage in all 50 states but they would take in the obamacare decision. now, i think this argument i don't want to get too far out on this, i think the argument went a little better for the obama administration than it might have been expected but that's by no means a guarantee that this law will be upheld and there's lots to think about. >> of course millions of americans' health care health insurance, at risk. jeffrey toobin thank you. appreciate it. next on "the lead," his lawyers saying he was just a regular kid who fell victim to pressure from his older brother to pull off a savage attack. a terrorist attack at the boston marathon finish line. will that be enough to get the suspected boston bomber off the hook? 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>> si. >> joining us now is the host of conan, the icon of team cocoa, conan o'brien. so good to have you here. thanks for joining us. first of all, how did this idea come together? >> i look for any excuse to leave the studio. after 22 years of hosting a show i will jump at any opportunity. i will shoot a whole show from your basement in d.c. i will go anywhere. i just want out of that studio. so what happened was shortly after president obama announced in december that there were talks about establishing relations with cuba after 53 years, my head writer mike sweeney said casually we should go to cuba and i jumped all over it. we mobilized, we scrambled and got it together as quickly as we could. >> when you got there, what was it like? i know you didn't go there as a reporter investigating human rights abuses, but did you have government minders at all? >> no. we had no minders. we had nobody following us nobody telling us where we could go where we couldn't go and that's actually what made the experience really terrific is we sent our camera crew a day ahead of us. they came in through canada. we came in through miami and we just said we're tourists and then hooked up with our camera crew and we started shooting immediately. we didn't know what was going to happen so we shot for pretty much four days continuously, and got a lot of great stuff. >> they obviously don't have the internet they don't have american tv there. did anyone have any idea who you were? >> well cubans don't know but here's the thing. cuba is filled with tourists tourists from canada. i'm a god in canada. well okay that's going too far. but they know who i am. i got a lot of fans in canada and also my show is seen throughout parts of south america. there are a lot of south american tourists there are european tourists. i even had people in finland who watch the show regularly who recognized me. i was recognized by european tourists and south american tourists and canadians but cubans no. they have no idea. >> isn't it the president of finland that's your doppelganger? am i confusing -- >> no, you're not. i bear a striking resemblance to the former -- i believe former president of finland. the only problem is she's a woman. that's sort of bad news for both of us. bad news for her, bad news for me. >> so you obviously didn't go fully staffed. how were you able to bring the late night presentation to your show? what are viewers who tune in tonight, what are they going to see? >> what you're going to see is a show where we do a lot of improvisation. and not just in my talking to people and making up comedy on the spot in situations but we literally improvise a talk show set. we found a street that looked pretty good. i asked a cafe can i borrow a table and chair. they said yes. there were four young women playing salsa music in a band in a restaurant across the street i said would you ladies be my talk show band. they said si which means yes. then we found a guy who was willing to be cuban andy. so my sidekick. so we set it up very quickly and then we shot an opening, an ending and different wrap-arounds. the rest of the show is me out and about in havana. >> did you make them laugh? i know it's only 90 miles away from miami, but there can be something of a culture shock as i understand it. >> yeah. they really did. i think when i behave like an idiot it's a universal language. so i did not want this in any way to be snarky or me being cutting about their culture. i wanted to go and in a lot of my remote segments the joke is on me. i'm the fish out of water. that's really the spirit that i wanted to bring to it. i wanted it to have kind of a sweetness to it. so i went and you can see them throughout everywhere i went, when i'm behaving like an idiot with this orange pastry on my head and my skin tone it looks like i'm sickly. they just start laughing. i think to me that's the greatest kind of diplomacy is you know don't go in as like the scary imperialist. send conan in first so they can ridicule me. it softens up any tensions that might have been there. >> thank you so much. again, don't miss conan in cuba tonight at 11:00 p.m. eastern over at our sister station, tbs. thanks, conan. >> thanks a lot, jake. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. turning you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." happening now, repulsive and racist. the damning federal report finds years of discrimination and abusive behavior by the ferguson missouri police department and its municipal court. >> disproportionately harm african-american residents. >> the justice department won't prosecute darren wilson the police officer who fatally shot teenager michael brown, saying there's no proof of unreasonable force. i will speak with the heads of the naac
iranian involvement. a revolutionary guard general and iranian forces are now fighting isis for an iraqi city. will the u.s. join that battle? and teen isis recruiter? a 17-year-old taken down by the fbi right outside the nation's capital, accused of helping a man travel to syria to fight with isis. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we begin with breaking news. shocking new details of racial bias as the u.s. justice department issues a report on its civil rights investigation of the ferguson missouri police department and at the same time closes its investigation into the shooting of the black teenager michael brown by the white police officer darren wilson. after an exhaustive review the federal government now finds no evidence to support an unreasonable use of force. but federal investigators find plenty wrong with the police department and the municipal court citing a pattern of discrimination against african-americans. >> it's not difficult to imagine how a single tragic incident set off the city of ferguson like a powder keg. >> from countless police stops and arrests used to generate revenue, to numerous examples of racist e-mails including some mocking the president and the first lady. we are digging into what the attorney general eric holder calls a highly toxic environment. i will speak with the naacp president, cornell william brooks and the national urban league president mark moriel. our correspondents and analysts are all standing by for full coverage. let's begin with all the details. our justice correspondent pamela brown joins us. >> the attorney general carrying it a searing report highlighting repeated abuse by the ferguson police department against african-americans. the outgoing attorney general did not mince words. saying ferguson police undermined the public's trust and was racially biased. >> unlawful practices and constitutional violations have not only severely undermined the public trust, eroded police legitimacy and made local residents less safe but created an intensely charged atmosphere where people feel under assault and under siege. >> reporter: the 102 page report released by holder today detailed examples of a police department out of control. routinely insulting and assaulting african-americans. >> use of dogs by ferguson police appears to have been exclusively reserved for african-americans. >> reporter: among the most damning evidence e-mails including ones allegedly sent by department leaders, that included racist jokes and depicted president obama as a chimpanzee. in one e-mail forwarded by officials, a picture of bare-chested african women dancing was captioned michelle obama's high school reunion. another message in june 2011 compared dogs to african-americans, suggesting the animals needed welfare because they were mixing color, unemployed lazy can't speak english and have no clue who their daddies are. a new report says while many officers participated or forwarded the e-mails none were disciplined. among other findings that ferguson police disproportionately targeted african-americans, with 85% of vehicle stops, 90% of citations and 93% of arrests. even though 67% of the ferguson population is black. tonight, the ferguson police department is expected to fire back and defend itself during a news conference at 6:30 p.m. eastern time. wolf? >> of course we will have coverage of that. the attorney general, meanwhile, mincing no words as pamela just said about racial bias in the ferguson police department. he is saying flatly some of those protesters were right. let's bring in our justice reporter evan perez who has been poring over this report. i have been going through a lot of it. it's a very long report with incredible details. i got to tell you it's shocking. >> it's really shocking. in ferguson according to this report minor code violations led to arrests and jail time. the attorney general detailed one example in 2007 with a woman from ferguson. here's what he had to say. >> one woman received two parking tickets that together totaled $152. to date she has paid $550 in fines and fees to the city of ferguson. she has been arrested twice. >> wolf she still owes $541 to this day for a ticket that she incurred in 2007. there is another example the attorney general gave in 2012 a 32-year-old african-american man was sitting in his car after playing basketball. a police officer comes and starts asking him questions. in the end he gives him eight different charges, citations, including for not wearing his seat belt and for giving his name mike instead of michael. this african-american man ended up losing his job because he worked for the federal government at the time. >> shocking. another thing they say in the report is 95% of those who received some minor infraction like jaywalking for example, 95% of those people were african-americans. >> that's right. you know that matters because without that kind of practice at the ferguson police department we are not here talking about anything. michael brown was stopped by officer darren wilson because he was jaywalking. so because this is the practice at ferguson police department you end up having a confrontation that really should never have gone anywhere. this is a result of that a young man is dead and a police officer has lost his job. >> despite all that history, the justice department in washington the federal government they decided there wasn't evidence to file civil rights charges or any charges against that police officer, darren wilson. >> right. we have talked many times about the high bar the justice department faced. according to the report that they prepared on the darren wilson case they had a lot of shaky witnesses, witnesses who recanted people who told cnn one thing and then when they went to talk to the fbi, they said another. so in the end, they just couldn't meet the standard to bring a case against darren wilson. >> eric holder the attorney general, defended supported that conclusion by his department. more on that coming up. evan thanks very much. the reaction is building in ferguson missouri right now. we are standing by as we said to hear from city officials. we will have live coverage of that. but i want to go to cnn's ed lavendera on the scene. what's the mood? what's been the reaction? >> reporter: it's interesting, when you talk to people around ferguson they say we told you so. this is what we have been talking about for the last six months here since michael brown was shot and killed and these stories, you ask people about whether or not these stories that are being publicized in this d.o.j. report and everyone has similar stories of their own, and the reason this is really resonating so hard with people is especially for people who might be lower income, that a lot of these citations and harassment is the way they describe it really sends them into a spiral. so one citation turns into extra fines and it builds up and builds up and it creates kind of this spiral where people are in a downward spiral unable to climb out of the financial hardships they face and they really view this as harassment from city officials and the police department here in ferguson. >> i know we have been reporting now for the past several weeks that no federal charges will be filed against that white police officer, darren wilson but i assume a lot of folks in ferguson are disappointed. are they bracing for demonstrations, for protests there? >> reporter: we haven't seen any kind of preparations or any kind of sense that anything like what we have seen here in recent months is about to transpire again. you see the police department behind me in november when they were getting ready for the announcement of the criminal charges, all of that was barricaded and along the other areas where there was some of the more higher profile, more dangerous unrest we haven't seen anything. everything has been extremely calm. >> let's hope it stays that way. thanks very much. let's get some more now. joining us the naacp president and ceo, cornell william brooks and also mark muriel president and ceo of the national yurnurban league the two premier african-american civil rights organizations in the united states. cornell, the justice department deciding not to press any charges against darren wilson. i want you to listen to what the attorney general, eric holder had to say about this decision just a little while ago. >> the facts do not support the filing of criminal charges against officer darren wilson in this case. michael brown's death, though a tragedy, did not involve prosecutable conduct on the part of officer wilson. i have been personally briefed on multiple occasions about these findings. i concur with the investigative team's judgment and the determination about our inability to meet required federal standard. >> cornell, your reaction. >> my reaction would be this. i'm very disappointed and certainly hurting along with so many americans in the naacp family. we grieve for the family of michael brown. that being said the justice department in its report made clear that the conduct that darren wilson engaged in is characteristic of the police department and that conduct was found to be unconstitutional unlawful violative of federal statutes and a conduct that is racially biased. the report itself speaks to any number of instances where we have police officers using overwhelming force for minor offenses where we have police dogs used against children selma style, birmingham style. so the fact that darren wilson was not indicted speaks to the ability of the justice department to bring a case against this individual. it's a tough prosecutorial decision not one that brings comfort or solace to the family. but we will continue to press hard to ensure that the ferguson police department does not continue to be a full service department of bias and bigotry and discrimination. >> let me get mark's reaction to the decision not to file any charges against the police officer. >> i have a lot of confidence in attorney general holder and his decision but there is great pain in the brown family great pain around the community that the criminal justice system neither state nor federal, has been able to bring forth justice for the death of michael brown. having said that wolf the key issue now is after these very comprehensive findings and a thorough investigation, by the department of justice, what next? there's got to be consideration as to whether a monitor needs to be immediately appointed to oversee the operations of the ferguson police department or number two, whether the ferguson police department needs to be completely disbanded and a new approach to policing and law enforcement in st. louis county needs to be undertaken since these findings are so comprehensive and this department is so broken and dysfunctional that only a new start will be appropriate. and i think thirdly, i hope that when the ferguson leadership reacts in about an hour that they do not retreat to obstinance and denaal and a continuance to deny the absolute truth which has been found by the justice department. what's important now is the conversation not only the report but what's next. >> we've gotten this reaction from michael brown's family through a spokesman. today we received disappointing news from the department of justice that the killer of our son wouldn't be held accountable for his actions. while we are saddened by this decision we are encouraged that the d.o.j. department of justice, will hold the ferguson police department accountable. it is our hope that through this action true change will come not only in ferguson but around the country. if that change happens, our son's death will not have been in vain. we will speak with the attorney for michael brown's family in our next hour. darryl parks will be joining us. but cornell, the other part of this justice department report the attorney general holder said it was searing the racist examples that are documented in there. you heard them from pamela brown, at least some of them. it goes on and on and on 100 pages, if not more. what was your reaction? were you surprised when you went through this report? >> i was surprised in this sense. it did not tell me anything that the citizens of ferguson and the citizens of missouri hadn't been saying for months. but i want to know this. the data of the report the evidence in the report comes as a consequence of a law that the naacp co-wrote. missouri's racial profiling law. and i want to make it clear here that when you consider that almost every point of contact between the police department the municipal court and the citizens of ferguson there is racial bias bigotry and racially disproportionate conduct, bias conduct. full service. so the report is scathing. if anything the attorney general understated just how bad this is because what it says is at least 16 points of contact where this report indicates whether it be arrest whether it be traffic stops, pedestrian stops, where the police department and the municipal courts are unfairly treating this citizens of ferguson. when you hear young people say that the police is acting as an occupying army and to have a report on government stationery that essentially says it's a racially biased police department it is a revenue-generating police department it is not a community policing police department, we need a strong response. we believe it's important for that police department if not to go out of business then to be under very strict oversight. >> we have a lot more to discuss with cornell and marc. please both of you stand by. is this ferguson issue an isolated case or is it going on nationally? 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>> no, it isn't right. you know there needs to be an independent monitor appointed immediately and i hope that the justice department will move very swiftly to take remedial action in light of this report. because the citizens of ferguson, the african-american citizens of ferguson certainly continue to be at risk of continued violations continued constitutional objections as long as the ferguson leadership is not only continuing in power but also when they continue to deny continue to oppose continue to suggest that there is no problem. i'm shocked that they would be in denial and i think that's why an independent monitor may be the best temporary approach emergency approach. i also think that in st. louis county writ large, there's a conversation afoot about substantial reform into policing and that is why i think that what has to also be on the table is possibly the disbanding of this department and an entirely new approach. this department is not only dysfunctional, it's a department that places the absolute public safety of citizens at risk because of the way they have conducted themselves. >> cornell, give us a bigger perspective now. is ferguson missouri an isolated awful example, or does stuff like this go on elsewhere around the united states? >> as you know the naacp is present in 50 states all across the country. nearly 2,000 units. we can simply say as americans grassroots army of democracy, this problem is not isolated to ferguson. we may have a police department that's committed to acting like camels that is collectively putting their heads in the sand but the fact is we have a national problem. i have spoken with the governor he understands that this is a challenge for not only ferguson but for towns and cities across missouri but also around the country. when we have police departments that see the citizens as not those we should protect but those whom we should fine and sanction and use as sources of revenue, that's a problem. but it's not a problem isolated to ferguson. >> you agree with that marc? >> i do think that what is clear is that there are many other examples around the country and currently, there are 15 police departments that are under consent decrees which means they have either admitted or the justice department has found patterns of violations of civil rights. so that alone indicates that this is not, if you will, an isolated incident. the law certainly gives the justice department the power to review not only individual complaints but potential comprehensive violations if you will systematic violations into departments around the country. there's ample evidence that this is not isolated but what i hope is that this conversation and this is where the urban league's ten-point plan that we not only submitted to the president's task force but we continue to advocate for, that this conversation needs to turn to the kinds of reforms we need and ferguson is a perfect place to start, but these reforms have to take place all across this nation. >> i want to invite both of you back if you can to join us tomorrow. i know you are both getting ready to go to selma, alabama for historic events this weekend. it will give all of us a good opportunity to reflect on what's going on. yes, there might be an african-american president of the united states yes, there's an african-american attorney general of the united states an african-american secretary of homeland security of the united states but there's a lot of work all of us have to do to fix what's wrong on this issue. gentlemen, good luck to both of you. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. the justice department's scathing report on police racial bias in ferguson missouri has national implications. up next i will be joined by our law enforcement and political experts along with someone working for change in the st. louis, missouri area. we are also covering another breaking story right now. the white house confirming get this confirming that iran is now in iraq with its troops. a major new military offensive under way. iraqi combat boots are not only there, but iranian combat boots are joining them. checking your credit score is for chumps. i have great credit. how do you know? 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does the charge by the department of justice against the ferguson police department from your perspective go far enough? >> well the reaction here in ferguson and the greater st. louis area is one of a community that is disheartened by the things particularly the salacious details that we see of the actions of officials in ferguson that are documented in the report but quite frankly, also this information is not inconsistent with the testimony we've heard from citizens through the ferguson commission from our engagement with people on the streets, our own experiences of policing in our community, so this is not quite frankly a surprise. the question is will we take the recommendation all the way through to the end and begin to engage the report with the recommendations on community policing will we engage robustly in an activity to make sure the community is engaged and has oversight of policing activity and that there's accountability to make sure the courts are not used as an atm for a system of municipal fragmentation and disproportionately impacting african americans. >> van, some of these e-mails that were released in this department of justice report are simply shocking. in november 2008 e-mail stating that president barack obama would not be president for very long because quote, what black man holds a steady job for four years. in april 2011 an e-mail depicted president obama as a chimpanzee. in october 2011 an e-mail included a photo of a bare-chested group of dancing women apparently in africa with the caption quote, michelle obama's high school reunion. it's hard -- these were on city e-mail accounts. these weren't like simply some g-mail account. this is their official e-mail account. >> it gives you a sense of the depth of racial hatred that was given free rein there. i was in ferguson before, during and after the high points of the activity there. my personal observation was i have never really seen a police department have such an us against them attitude. bbc, cnn, the world media was there. if there was ever a time to act like you care and you see these taxpayers as your bosses that would have been the time to do it. instead it felt very tribal like we are, our group, these people protesting are some other species of people. i grew up in the rural south. i never felt that kind of disrespect from a law enforcement agency. it gave me a sense, if what i was hearing was correct, there's something wrong with this department. >> these e-mails were written by supervisors, police officers i don't think anybody was disciplined for any of this kind of stuff. it is pretty shocking. if you look at police departments around the country, similar question that i asked our earlier guests is this going on around the country or is ferguson just an isolated incident? 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helping with the iraqi offensive but emphasized the united states is not coordinating militarily with the iranians. joining us now here in "the situation room" illinois republican congressman adam kinsinger. he served in both iraq and afghanistan, former member of the foreign affairs committee. i don't get what's going on. the iraqis have their military which proved to be pretty ineffective last year. they are moving towards tikrit an important city symbolically and otherwise. iranian boots on the ground are now with them. not just iraqi shiite militias but iranian revolutionary guard troops have gone in combat forces they are helping them. the u.s. is providing weapons to the iraqi military giving some advice. this sounds pretty awkward right now. the white house says there's no direct coordination between the u.s. and iran. >> yeah it's a very awkward situation. it just underscores how complicated this region is. the iranians are involved because they see the sunni/shia component of what you have in isis and what you have in the iraqi government. obviously we are involved because we see the extremist element of what's going on in isis and groups like that. and what you have is an unnatural alliance that's occurring right now but the reality of it is this. the iranians are going to demand fog for their involvement with iraq even if they say we don't like isis they will not get this for free. it means more iranian influence in the iraqi government which has been the dream of iran in the beginning and it will mean there's a lot owed to the iranian government. we see iran involved in syria, we see them involved in iraq and they are extending -- >> you served in the air force. the air force can't launch air strikes for this battle in tikrit to help the iraqi troops because they don't know where the iranians are going to be. they could end up killing a whole bunch of revolutionary guard or iraqi shiite forces that are there as well. can you fight a battle like this because it sounds so, so complicated. you're right, iraq eventually potentially could become a wholly owned subsidiary of iran. >> it will be tough to do. keep in mind too, some estimates are upwards of a third of american casualties that occurred in the iraq war were directly or indirectly related to iran either direct action or ieds and their technology. >> because of the shiite militias. >> that's right. they are no friend of the united states. the other thing we are hearing is potential reports out of tikrit there are a lot of shia militias involved in that offensive. ths is where the united states has to be strong. the more we put special forces on the ground imbedded with iraqi military the more we show strong leadership we push out iranian influence because we have our influence there. but at the end of the day, there's no pretty answers. >> that may be way too late for that. today we heard an ominous warning from the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin 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this teenager who lives less than 25 miles from the white house, he was enrolled at a high school in northern virginia but does not attend classes, according to school officials. he allegedly helped isis. it wasn't some passive kind of assistance like showing support for the terror group online. this boy, according to law enforcement, was a recruiter. he allegedly helped a man travel to syria to fight with isis went online to connect the recruit to the terror group. the alleged recruiter, a 17-year-old boy in the suburbs of washington. that's according to a law enforcement official. 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of state. was she hiding anything? i will ask a state department spokeswoman. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you are in "the situation room." let's get right to breaking news. new evidence of racial bias and outright hatred. eric holder says it's not hard to understand why the city of ferguson missouri exploded in violence after the shooting death of michael brown. he says there's been a highly toxic environment between ferguson police and the city's african-american community. holder is speaking out about a new justice department report that includes deeply offensive racist e-mails sent by police and court officials often targets president obama and the first lady. we're standing by for reaction from the ferguson police chief and mayor. also tonight, official confirmation that no federal civil rights charges are being filed against darren wilson in michael brown's death. i will talk to a lawyer for the brown family. there he is darryl parks. we have our correspondents and analysts. they are all standing by as we cover all of the news breaking right now. first let's go to ferguson missouri. >> reporter: this report might be eye opening to some people. but here in ferguson many people say this report finally proves what they have lived and experienced for years. months after violent racially charged protests in ferguson a new report is exposing the ugly and pervasive culture of racial bias that ignited the unrest. >> our view of the evidence found no -- no alternative elf mra explanation other than implicit and explicit racial bias. >> reporter: the justice department's more than 100 page report reveals a pattern of discrimination against african-americans. it's filled with specific cases and shocking racially offensive e-mails targeting the president and first lady. one e-mail depicts the president as a chimpanzee. another includes a photo of a group of bare chested women in what appears to be africa with a caption that reads, michelle obama's high school reunion. community leaders in ferguson are outraged. >> if they would say that about the president of the united states what do you think they would say about poor black men and poor black women living in a racialized area of the city? >> reporter: the report shows that african-americans in ferguson faced that kind of discrimination day in and day out. in one example, an african-american man was culled out of his apartment after an argument. when he told police you don't have a reason to lock me up the officer responded using the n word and saying, i can find something to lock you up on. despite the justice department's finding of a pattern of racist behavior behavior the second report cleared police officers darren wilson of civil rights violations in the shooting death of the unarmed black teenager michael brown. >> the facts do not support the filing of criminal charges against officer darren wilson in this case. >> reporter: michael brown's parents are disappointed but say they are encouraged the doj will hold the police accountable. many people are hoping -- community organizers -- it's freezing here. community organizers hope it's a wake-up call to not just frg son ferguson but other cities who say this should be a wake-up call. many operate like ferguson. >> that's sad to hear that. go inside. thanks very much. the attorney general says ferguson police weren't only motivated by racial bias when they targeted african-americans, they apparently also were trying to bring in cash. let's bring in our justice correspondent pamela brown and evan perez. they were under pressure to write tickets to collect money. >> they were under pressure. the city government of ferguson apparently was running a booming business in writing traffic citations against motorists who went through the city. in 2010 -- i'm sorry, in the past year the city has written 50% more citations than in 2010. also in 2010 the ferguson courts collected $1.3 million in fines and fees. in 2015 they are expecting $3 million. it's a big increase. attorney general eric holder had some criticism of this practice. here is what he had to say. >> the city relies on the police force to serve as a collection agency for the municipal court rather than as a law enforcement entity focused on maintaining and promoting public safety. >> wolf beyond the practices of the police department and the courts the justice department uncovered really shocking e-mails that really describe what the attitude within the police department was. i will give you one e-mail from 2011 which described a woman in new orleans going in for an abortion. after she gets out of the hospital she gets a check for $5,000. this is a joke that was being shared in the department -- ferguson police department. she called the hospital to ask why she was getting this money. the answer was, crime stoppers. in other words, african-americans are born criminals. >> pretty shocking. in this report also they decided that there was not enough evidence to go ahead and file federal charges against the white police officer darren wilson who shot and killed michael brown. you are getting more information on that conclusion. >> absolutely. it's interesting because you have this one report that everyone was talking about showing that there were issues with racial bias. then this other report from the justice department a lengthy report saying no civil rights charges will be filed against darren wilson. basically saying darren wilson did not use unreasonable force when he shot and killed michael brown. there's a few key points in this report, wolf. first it talks about the fact that the aweutopsy reports say he was walking toward wilson. the report says there's nothing to directly corroborate wilson's account but nothing to disprove it either. that's really key here. they couldn't find anyone to disprove that. with the witness accounts many of we have heard from the prosecutor's office it focused on fact that many of the witness accounts were conflicting, they didn't line up. all of this together, this is what the report says. the evidence when vieweds as a whole that wilson's use of force were objectively unreasonable under the supreme court's definition. he will not face charges. >> >> thanks very much. michael brown's parents say his death won't be in vein in real change happens. darryn thanks for joining us. i want to play the clip from the attorney general eric holder. he said he personally reviewed this decision on whether to -- whether or not to file charges against the former police darren wilson. listen to this. >> michael brown's death, though a tragedy, did not involve prosecutable conduct on the part of officer wilson. now, this conclusion represents the sound considered and independent judgment of the expert career prosecutors within the department of justice. i have been personally briefed on multiple occasions about these findings. >> i know the family -- the michael brown family is disappointed. but do you accept what eric holder said that he personally reviewed everything and this was his conclusion? >> not only do we accept it wolf but we thank the attorney general for his involvement. we also thank the prosecutors who also -- one of the u.s. attorneys from d.c. involved and many other fbi agents. if nothing else i think that their involvement allows sed us to get closer to the truth. the truth plays a big role in that now we know what happened. whether or not they were able to file a federal civil rights criminal complaint against darren wilson is a different issue. i think that the family although very disappointed in that the killer of their son continues to go free, is very disappointing to them. and would be disappointing to any person who has lost their child. however, they are, as we said earlier, encouraged by the fact that the justice department has found the things that it found within the department. when you think about michael brown, think about the first thing that officer darren wilson said to the boys as he approached them. he told them to get the f on the sidewalk. that's just not a way that an officer should greet young men who are walking in their own neighborhood. so we are hopeful that this action by the department of justice in ferguson missouri will lead to some positive change. go right ahead. >> we know that some officials from the department of justice i believe have met with the brown family. has the attorney general been in touch over the past day or two or anyone else in the federal government to explain their decisions? >> no. what happened wolf the officials from the department of justice arrived in st. louis late last night. we met at 9:00 this morning at the fbi headquarters. i was in the meeting along with others from the legal team. they answered any questions that the family might have had regarding it. we are thankful to the fbi and department of justice in st. louis and washington for what they did. if nothing else i think it gave them a little bit of clarity. we don't agree with everything that the doj said about the findings. a lot of it is their interpretation of it. you will probably hear our interpretation of the same set of facts as they go forward. however, we remain very grateful though at least for the oversight of the attorney general and the fbi. >> you have confidence in eric holder and his team? you believe they did their best right? >> i believe he gave -- i am very proud of the attorney general for his work and for standing up. it's clear that this was a very tough case that tended to really bring emotion within the country. and it was a tough decision for them to get involved in this decision. however, the department of justice under attorney general holder's leadership they stepped up and did a thorough investigation. we never intended for him to do what we wanted him to do. we wanted a fair and impartial investigation and oversight of the st. louis county police and the ferguson police in their efforts in missouri. we got that. to them we are grateful for the involvement. it was a lot of resources, time spent by many people within the department of justice. we are grateful for what they did to try to at least move us closer to justice. we don't quite agree with their conclusions, but their conclusions are based upon federal law. a federal requirement is a very heightened requirement. as a lawyer i understand that part of it. my clients who are loving parents continue to grieve very hard for the loss. to hear the news they heard today went to their core. to know that their son is no longer with us and person who did it as of now has not had to pay a price. >> there was no grand jury indictment. the federal government now is not going to file any charges. are you planning a civil lawsuit right now against darren wilson and/or the local police the city of ferguson? >> without question obviously, when you 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national security circles and especially here at the pentagon. he served for some time as chief of staff to the former defense secretary chuck hagel. he served in top positions advising on asian affairs. this was his specialty in national security. he also previously served at the national security council at the white house and served on the obama/biden transition team. he is someone that is very well-known to president obama, has been a top aid in all of the positions over the years. he recently left the pentagon after being confirmed as ambassador to south korea. if you followed any of his social media, you saw that he was move -- he moved around seoul all the time, often with his basset hound on the street. right now, of course as you say, he is being treated. all indications are he will be okay. >> barbara, i want to show our viewers video. you can see he has been attacked. we don't necessarily believe attacked with a gun. but attacks with some sort of weapon. he clearly has been injured. there you see him with his hand to his face. we don't know the extent of the injuries. we do know according to government sources, he is being treated for those injuries right now. we have no idea who attacked him, how many. maybe the deputy spokeswoman at the state department who is here in "the situation room" has some information. this is shocking what's going on. what can you share with us? >> well details are still coming in, obviously. this has just happened. i have seen the photos that i just showed of our ambassador who is as barbara said a longtime asia policy specialist one of our top ambassadors that we have certainly. and from seeing the photos -- i'm not a doctor. but they don't appear life-threatening. our team on the ground and security folks are talking to the south koreans to get a sense for what happened here. a lot of details unknown. >> under normal circumstances, the united states ambassador in seoul walks around he has security guards? >> i don't know the answer to that. obviously, our ambassadors have security around the world. south korea is a pretty safe place, i think. i don't know the details. we will get more facts and see what transpired. again, hope that it wasn't too serious. doesn't appear life-threatening. don't know all the facts yet. >> i know you will check with your sources in south korea. will get back to you. stand by. barbara, it dawned on me, this comes at a sensitive moment. have i no i have no idea if it was a random thug or some sort of planned political statement or whatever. but u.s. south korea military operations exercises, they are under way right now. norm north korea doesn't like those. >> that's right. there's a certain level of tension, something that the ambassador probably knows a great deal about more than most of us. the exercises under way. the u.s. and south korea. north korea making a lot of noise about it in recent days as they often do. but the u.s. and the south koreans exercise routinely the military program. so the u.s. shows its support for south korea and the -- tries to encourage stability on the peninsula. as you look at the pictures, wolf, again, i'm no doctor and no photo experts. it looks like possibly he was potentially maybe some sort of event or indoors. he is in his business suit. i have seen pictures of him as he walks around seoul perhaps more casually dressed with his family with his dog. so this looks like it was some sort of official appearance or official -- something official that he was doing in his capacity as ambassador. i think it will indeed raise questions about what his security was. were they there with him at the time? ambassadors often sometimes as ss ask their security people to hang back in more safe areas of the world when they are trying to interact with the local population. we don't have the answers here. it looks like he did sustain an injury to his face because you see him with his hand up there. i think the facts are barely emerging right now. everyone wishes him the best. he just arrived in south korea a few short months ago after leaving the pentagon. this is a man whose expertise and career really has been devoted to asia security issues. this was the job he wanted so badly. he would talk about it in the hallways of the pentagon. he was very much looking forward to becoming ambassador to south korea. and had really wanted to move there and serve u.s. interests there. >> he had extensive military service as well serving in the united states navy was an intelligence adviser back in 2007 and 2008. i want to report now for our viewers here in the united states and around the world what we know. the united states ambassador to south korea, we have now confirmed through u.s. and south korean sources was attacked in seoul, south korea. he was injured. we don't know the extent of the injuries. but there you can see him with his hand to his face. we don't know what kind of weapon was used. although there was some weapon that was used. we are told it might not necessarily have been a gun. the ambassador is injured. he is being treated right now. once again, we don't know the extent of the injuries. the united states ambassador to south korea, highly unusual because the situation in south korea is usually extremely safe for american diplomats, u.s. officials are very popular in south korea. this is very extraordinary right now, which raises all sorts of questions to those of us who have covered the korean peninsula. the deputy spokeswoman at the state department is with us. we have no idea who is responsible, as i said before. it could have been some random thug on the streets of south korea. could have been someone trying to make some sort of political statement. what we know is that there are u.s. south korean exercises, annual exercises going on. the north koreans have made tough statements in recent days warning against the exercises. i remember five years ago when the u.s. had these exercises with south korea, the north koreans shot a ship killing a lot of south korean sailors to make a point, to make a statement. give us a little perspective on what's going on in the korean peninsula right now. >> well again, you are right. we don't know what was behind what appears to be an attack on our ambassador in south korea. we do regular exercises with the south korean military. they are transparent. we are open about them and speak about them. they are not intended to be directed towards any country or threatening. we repeatedly say that. when the north koreans make noise publically and complain and take action we say very clearly, these are part of our relationship with the south koreans, a long-standing alliance. they're not designed to be aggressive in any way. but we have seen unfortunately -- you know this better than anyone. the north koreans take increasingly escalating steps. going back to nuclear tests. this is a serious problem on the peninsula. we are committed to seeing if we can stand by our allies to reduce tensions. >> 46 south korean sailors died when the ship was attacked by north korea, supposedly in disputed waters. it was a tense moment. the u.s. south korean exercises were taking place five years ago. the north koreans wanted to make a statement. paula hancock is joining us. paula, what's going on? it's very disturbing information the u.s. ambassador to south korea has been attacked. >> that's right. we have confirmation from the embassy spokesman saying they can confirm there was an incident this morning. it's 8:30 in the morning local time. they say he is currently in hospital. he is in a stable condition. we know that he was -- this morning it was the reconciliation of the two koreas. he was at a public event. we don't know how this -- how this was carried out. it was about 7:42 -- >> hold on. paula, we are now being told he was attacked by a razor blade. someone took a razor blade and went to his right cheek and slit it. that's why he is holding his hand there. go ahead, finish your report. >> that's right. this is what we have from the police at the moment. it was a suspect in his 60s. he used a small razor blade. the ambassador has injuries on his right check, also on his hand which coincides with the pictures that we're seeing. the suspect at this point has been detained. he is under investigation. police tell us they have no idea what the motive of this attack. but these are the latest details that we have that it was a small razor blade. it was a public event this morning, the reconciliation of two core reekoreas. he is in stable condition. >> any indications paw laula, that this 60-year-old who took a razor blade and went to the ambassador's right cheek with it -- we can see him holding his hand there. he is bleeding. as he is being rushed to hospital for treatment. any indication there was political motive or what? >> police say they don't have a motive at this point. they are going to be looking at everything. this is not just an attack that happened in north korea -- in south korea. they will look at possible implications from north korea. they will look at different possibilities, whether or not there was an attack against the united states whether or not it was north korea related. there are a number of different implications with this attack whether or not this was just a lone attacker who had problems. it's really too early to tell. police say they do not know at this point. they are questioning the man. he is under investigation. he has been detained. he is with authorities right now. they are talking to him right now to try and find out why he did this. >> according to south korea's news channel -- let me share with our viewers what they are reporting. ambassador was about to deliver a speech at a breakfast being held at a hall in seoul. one eyewitness claims to have heard someone yelling something like north korea and south koreacore ree ya should be unified. then the ambassador was rushed to hospital. the suspect is identified only by the last name kim, which is a very common korean name. he was detained. the report says ambassador was injured around his face as well as on his arm. the state department deputy spokeswoman is still here. i don't know if you are getting more information that you can share with our viewers. >> not a lot yet. the ambassador is at the hospital being treated. his injuries are not life-threatening as i think we can see from the photos. no known motive yet. a full investigation will follow. obviously, you are hearing that from other sources as well. before jumping to conclusions, we just want to get more facts, talk to someone that has been ap apprehended. we will do a full investigation. >> i assume -- you are there in seoul, south korea. you have seen the ambassador in operations. this was an event designed to support north and south korea, the unification at some point down the road. i assume at an event like this the u.s. ambassador to south korea would have security protection. right? >> well certainly there would be security around him. i mean have ii have seen him travel in the past. they are very careful about his travel. this is not, obviously, something that you would expect to happen especially not in south korea. there are many tensions between the north and south. south korea is a very safe country. it's not where you would expect ambassadors to have to have extra security and the likes of what you would see in the middle east for example. even though this is a country that is still technically at war, it's a very safe country. he was at a public event. quite often at this public events there's not a lot of security to go into the event itself. certainly, there would -- there may be if it was a high profile guest like an ambassador there may be a metal detector. but it's not a country where it's regular to have this high level of security going into hear these kinds of -- these meetings breakfast meetings speeches. so certainly, that's something that i think will now be looked at. of course the ambassador would have security around him but not as high a level as he would in a more tense or dangerous country. >> just to reiterate what's going on the united states ambassador of south korea was attacked. someone came up an individual thought to be around 60 years old, a man shouting about north and south korea with a razor blade and slit his right cheek and parts of his arm. the ambassador has been rushed to a hospital for treatment. this is not life-threatening fortunately. but clearly, something is going on. you know something about the security environment in south korea. all of us who have been there know it's a safe place. >> very safe place. i want to reiterate what paula was saying that the security level in south corekorea is different than washington, d.c. or anywhere else in a large city in america. the reason for that is it's guns. it's more difficult to get a gun in south korea than in the united states. that's the first context we want to put on this. also as far as access to these ambassadors, when you talk about access just as a reporter there say bit lower security profile. you have a bit more access. when christopher hill was the envoy to north korea, we had much more access to him than you might expect in the united states. there is a bit more access at a public speaking event that would be more access for the public. again, that's because of the security profile of the country at large. as paula was saying yes, north and south korea, we hear about that all the time that this is a country still technically at war, that the war ended in truce but the level of security in seoul is much lower. >> yeah. very disturbing development. of course we will stay on top of this story of the united states ambassador to south korea has been attacked with a razor blade, a small razor blade. he is in the hospital getting treatment. fortunately, not life-threatening. we don't know what the motive was of this 60-year-old who went after the u.s. ambassador to south korea at a public event. we're getting more information. the deputy spokeswoman at the state department is with us. you know this ambassador? >> i do very well. >>accounts a very impressive military background. >> he is one of our top asia policy expects in the u.s. government. obviously, ambassador was chief of staff to secretary of defense chuck hagel who i used to work for and was at the national security council working on asia poll six a policy. well liked by people. don't know what motive was behind this attack. thankful that the injuries are not life-threatening that he is being treated. we will get to the bottom of what happened here and do a full investigation. >> i know we invited you to speak about other information. but thanks very much for joining us. we will check back. there's another breaking story we're following. very disturbing story. the u.s. justice department issuing a very very scathing report on the ferguson missouri police department. the report suggesting that there has been widespread racism in ferguson missouri. the police force as well as in the court system. darryl parks is with us, the attorney representing michael brown's family. we're a few minutes away from hearing from the mayor, the ferguson police chief. darryl what would you like to hear from them? what would you like to hear them say? >> well you know this family is yet to hear them be apologetic for causing the death of michael brown. so on behalf of my clients, they would want to hear from them you know, that they are apology apologetic for causing his death. now, that may or may not happen. that's what we would like to hear. >> and anything else specifically? anything else you would like to hear from the mayor and the police chief? because this report it outlines a horrendous record as far as the african-american community in ferguson is concerned. >> well also too, i think that number one, we would want to hear from them that they want to accept the findings of the department of justice. two, that they are committed to changing all of the problems that are shown in the report. for example, showing the issues with racial profiling, the issues with using the process pretty much to make money for the city. and so a real commitment to change the city at all levels would be something that we would want to see happen within this department. and the other part of it would be one of the things we saw in the michael brown case in that it was obvious that this police officer had a disdain for young black men and that there be some commitment to making sure that community policing but also a sense of respect in how you treat citizens of ferguson moving forward. these are things that we would want to see them mention in this press conference. >> darryl, i want you to stand by as we await the mayor and the police chief of ferguson missouri. this will be their first reaction to the scathing report released by the justice department outlining racist against the african-american community there. i want to bring in the community act activist as well as our legal analyst. do you accept eric hold'ser's decision not to file charges against darren wilson? >> certainly, i think that we all understood that that was the probability. the federal legal standard for bringing a civil rights case is very very high. they are very difficult to prove. and so i think those of us that had reviewed this case knew that that was the likely result. i do think though that it bares worth knowing that while the justice department in this scathing report says that they are making recommendations, in reality, wolf those are really almost mandates. because if the ferguson city police department and city doesn't admit or accept the report accept the recommendations and agree to be monitored and agree to the reform the justice department will sue. the justice department will win. the end result will be the same. i think we will be seeing this wholesale reform in the ferguson police department and these municipal reports. the attorney general made it very very clear that he is looking for concrete action and that everything is on the table. i also suspect that we are going to see a change in leadership. i know the police chief jackson has indicated that he is not stepping off the job, that he is not stepping down that he certainly intends to see this through. i can't imagine giving the findings in this report that that is going to happen. i can't see that. >> we're waiting for this news conference to begin. the first official reaction from the ferguson mayor, the ferguson police chief to the scathing report released by the department of justice. what's been the reaction to what we have learned both the decision not to file charges against the former police officer darren wilson as well as the history of really overt racism there that is documented in this new report? >> many are not surprised by the statistics. as i have said along with many activists and other community leaders, the numbers are not shocking. this report merely validates the protest, the civil disobedience that we have seen since the killing of michael brown. the thing that is most shocking to the community, to be honest with you, are the e-mails that circulated amongst people that work for the city of ferguson. to read the atrocious content of some of those that were shared in that report was really disheartening. you know reading some of the quotes from different officers listening to some of the things that people that have been victims of the this police brutality said what happened to them it would make you think you were living in the jim crow south. and we're in 2015. so the statistics are disappointing. they are what they are. i'm hoping and the community is hoping at this press conference that hopefully the police chief will make it clear he plans to step down. i don't know how anyone can lead and admit to those type of failures that took place up under their leadership. >> it would be surprising if the police chief announces he is stepping down. our cnn law enforcement analyst is here also jeff toobin is here as well. what do they need to say, tom, right now given this report? it's an extensive report 100-plus pages. what -- the mayor, the police chief, they need to say right now? >> i agree with john. somebody needs to say, we're going to step down because we were in charge and responsible for what's occurred over the last few years. >> they got a lot of work to do to reassure the community right now, what's going on. we're being told that we're three minutes away from the mayor and the police chief walking in. so we will get jeffrey toobin to weigh in as well. you have gone through this report, jeffrey. it's a scathing report. there was a high bar that they had to go over if they were going to file charges against the former police officer. >> yes. i never thought it was likely that they were going to -- criminal charges against darren wilson. the scope of the racism and behavior is worse than i expected. and i think what really needs to happen is the ferguson police department needs to be shut down. other communities have done it. it would probably save the taxpayers money. it is time for real change. they could be absorbed into other police districts. somebody needs to have some accountability here. given the scope, it seems like the entire police department should pay -- should pay a price. the citizens of ferguson will probably be better off as a result. >> as we await the mayor and the police chief of ferguson darryl parks is with us the attorney for michael brown's family. they are disappointed no files are -- no charges are going to be filed. they are looking forward to some dramatic changes that potentially could take place to ease some of the pain that they have gone through. right? >> well wolf i would like to say yes to that. i believe this family is still at a point where they are grieving heavily. i was with them today several times today. the pain that they continue to have -- i think you have to in the back of your mind remember that on a day like today when you have a rehashing of the facts, where you have a major announcement by the government officials, it has a tendency to make all those wounds very fresh. so although some of russ talking about the other report that's there, the report that they are focused on are the 80-something pages where the justice department talks about why they can't charge darren wilson under the federal law. they are parents. they are parents who for no reason and just untimely their son was taken away. they didn't get a chance to say good-bye. it's very emotional for them highly emotional at the highest level to their heart, to their core they are suffering. their analysis is different from the analysis we're going through in terms of this report that doj put out. their analysis is more of my son was taken and i don't know why. there's nothing that we can do about it. >> i want you to stand by. we're being told the police chief tom jackson will not -- this is what we are being told will not be participating in this event right now. we're being told that the mayor of ferguson will make a statement but will not answer reporters' questions. we will see if that changes for whatever reason. once again, tom jackson, the police chief of ferguson who has been under a lot of criticism over the many months apparently is not going to be attending this event, what was described as a news conference. but it may be making a statement and they're not answering questions. it's only the mayor. it's not much of a news conference. it's a statement from the mayor reacting to this investigation of the ferguson police department by the federal government. how unusual, jeffrey toobin as we await the mayor, is all of of this? >> i don't want to talk over the mayor there. it looks like something is happening. >> er ismayor is coming in. this is the mayor of ferguson james knowles, we're told who is going to be walking in. let's listen to his statement. obviously, the mayor is under enormous pressure right now given the scathing report. there he is walking to the microphone. >> more space for microphones than my remarks. good afternoon. i'm james knowles, mayor of the city of ferguson. yesterday, ferguson city manager john shaw ferguson police chief tom jackson and ferguson city attorney stephanie car and myself met with officials in st. louis to receive the final report of their investigation into the policies and practices of the city of ferguson police department. the 100-page document outlined five specific areas of concern in which the ferguson police department engaged in a pattern or practice of unlawful conduct that violates the united states constitution and federal law. the department of justice began their investigation of the ferguson police department on september 4, 2014. during the past six months city officials have cooperated with the department of justice to supply tens of thousands of documents which included thousands of e-mails from 75 employees of the city of ferguson and other electronic materials from the ferguson police department. the city also arranged ride alongs for department of justice vestinvestigateors to observe police officers while on duty. during the meeting tuesday, officials informed ferguson that a review of city e maims s-mails uncovered racial bias by three individuals employed by ferguson police department. let me be clear. this type of behavior will not be tolerated. the ferguson police department or in any department of the city of ferguson. immediately upon leaving that meeting, the three individuals were placed on administrative leave pending an investigation. one has been terminated since. the other two are still awaiting the outcome of an internal investigation. these actions taken by these individuals are in no way representative of the employees of the city of ferguson. today's report allows the city of ferguson to identify the problems not only in our police department but in the entire st. louis region. we must do better not only as a city but as a state and a country. we must all work to address issues of racial disparity in all aspects of society. as mentioned by the department of justice, there are several initiatives taking place in the city of ferguson and in the police department. they are as follows. the ferguson police department is in the process of hiring three new officers. we hope to have an update on the positions and the racial makeup of the new hires sometime in the next week. the ferguson police department has hired one correction officer since august 9 of 2014. one african-american female candidate was hired for that position out of a pool of approximately 91 applicants. the ferguson police department has also hired two assistant court clerks since august 9 of 2014. both positions were filled by african-american females from a pool of 64 applicants. all ferguson police department officers have completed mandatory diversity training as of december 31, 2014. the ferguson police department has also begun an explorer program in the ferguson school district beginning in january of 2015. the goal of the program is for officers to engage youth in the law enforcement profession the future. create a civilian oversight board that will review complaints and provide citizen input into to policies and procedures of the ferguson police department. the task force meets weekly and efforts are already under way. this will be one of the first of its kind in this region. lastly the city of ferguson has retained the services of an independent consultant recommended by the department of justice to conduct a patrol staffing and deployment study. finally, i would like to speak briefly about our efforts to reform the ferguson municipal court. the city of ferguson has acted in august and september of 2014 to implement several programs. the city was the first to undertake such steps. in september 2014 the ferguson city council repealed several provisions of the municipal code relating to fees such as an administrative fee of the police department when overseeing the release of a towed vehicle or on the recall of a warrant upon request. in addition there's no longer a specific offense for failing to appear which will eliminate certain additional fees and court costs for individuals in the court system. pending charges of failing to appear which were issued prior to the reforms taking place as they come before the mu nisnicipal court. the judge has entered new procedures and programs. a new docket was established for those having trouble paying fines. a defendant may appear and speak to the judge and or prosecutor about different payment plans or potential alternative sentencing. the city has also passed an ordinance in september of 2014 to cap municipal court revenues at 15% of the city's overall budget. this is half of the legal limit allowed under state of missouri law. this is also specified that any access will be appropriated for community projects. these are some of the initiatives the city of ferguson has taken and will continue to take moving forward to hopefully move this city its residents and our entire community forward. thank you. >> all right. there you hear it. the mayor of ferguson making a statement not answering reporters questions. the police chief, tom jackson, not available, not attending this statement that we just saw. let's get immediate reaction. is what did you think? >> without question we obviously saw there wasn't a change in the leadership of the police department. also although i was hopeful, no mention of the loss of michael brown's loss or any apology. i hope that the things that he talked about will do it. i don't know if it fully addresses the magnitude of the problem there in ferguson. that's something we'll have to go through an analysis to determine based upon what's in report and the things he talked about to what length it goes to make real change there. at a minimum, we hope and pray that things will get better for citizens who live there and michael brown has many relatives who live within that area and some of things he mentioned could have a direct effect upon them. all question do is hope they'll do what they said they'll do. most importantly, over to the department of justice will stay steadfast ly steadfastly involved and go to the extent of suggesting other things they believe would be helpful. >> i kept listening for the resignation of chief jackson. it wouldn't hurt for james knowles to resign. for those type of blunders to take place under your leadership is sickening. it should not be tolerated. someone needs to take accountability for what has taken place. to hear that chief jackson is not going to step down or has not step down after these findings is disappointing. i will say this i encourage the activists within the community, the people that live in that community to continue to seek justice and reforms and not revenge. to continue to do it in a digfullydig dignified way they have continued to do. >> we just received a statement from the governor of missouri who says facts exposing the department of justice's report on ferguson police department are deeply disturbing and demonstrate the urgent need for the reforms i have called for. discrimination there's no place in our justice system and no place in a democratic society. what's your reaction to what the governor has said and what we heard from the mayor of ferguson? >> i think what we heard from the mayor of ferguson kuwaitquite frankly was inadequate. to not take questions and say three individuals have been placed on administrative leave and there's some diversity training and that there's going to be this task force established calling that ground breaking which is not ground breaking. there are police boards all over our country. i think it was woefully inadd kwat inadequate. i wanted to hear a real acceptance of the justice department's findings. i want to hear an apology. the mayor made several statements about how there was no problem in ferguson. no racial disparity. no racial bias on his watch. i would echo what was said i would have expected resignation from this mayor. i expect a resignation from chief jackson. i think a change in leadership at this point and acceptance of all the recommendations is what would be acceptable given the dense, scathing report from the department of justice. this was woefully inadequate. >> a lot of people have a hard time believing the police chief is still the police chief of ferguson given everything that's happened there. let's get the reaction of our law enforcement analyst. >> it was much less than what we expected. we were looking for more changes. we don't know who the three are. are they patrol officers with no accountability of sergeants, lieutenants, captain, the chief himself or others. that's important. i'd like to make a comment about we've gotten the darren wilson charges interwoven with this practice and pattern of the department. i'd like to say one of the things that struck me in the report by doj as to why they weren't charging him. they talk about witnesses who changed their statements. made one public state but behind closed doors with the fbi recanted and said something else. in their report they say there were credible accounts that brown was moving toward wilson at the time wilson fired upon him. that's critical to this because e it takes out the story that michael brown was only standing still, hands in the air. you have witnesses is a they wilson was back peddling when he fired the shot. >> the grand jury didn't file charges. the department of justice, attorney general no charges. we heard from darrell parks, they're still planning a civil lawsuit against darren wilson and city or the police force. >> they'll need a great big armored car to get all the money that they are going to get from the city of ferguson because they're behavior throughout has been appalling. that was a pitiful appearance by the mayor. you read this report and one officer loses his job. you translate the bureaucratic stuff of the mayor, that's all that happened there. this civil lawsuit is going to cost the taxpayers an enormous amount of money because, tom, you're view of what happened yes, he was moving towards darren wilson. that doesn't mean he should have been shot. that's a very different -- >> what i disagree we have both these results coming out simultaneously and the criminal investigation of wilson is a completely different standard. >> we're going to continue our coverage. important news coming in. you heard the reaction from the mayor of ferguson. you heard it live. that's it for me. you can always follow us on twitter. tweet me at wolf blitzer. join us tomorrow right here. you can dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. i'm wolf blitzer. erin burnett outfront starts now. breaking news the u.s. ambassador of south korea from a violent attack bloodied by a razor blade. the mayor of ferguson announcing the police department employee has been fired over racist e-mails. one comparing the president. we have new details that hillary clinton has a homemade server. congress is calling for all her e-mails on the benghazi attack but will we ever know what all is?
the first is the outrage going on right now in madison, wisconsin after an unarmed young man is shot dead by police. >> there have been days of protest since 19 year old tony robinson was killed on friday. his family says they are not anti-police but they are against a systematic targeting of young black males. >> we want to bring in gary tuckman joining us from madison, wisconsin. obviously anybody watching will draw parallels between what's happening there in madison, wisconsin and what happened in ferguson missouri. but it appears the way the police chief there in madison is handling this is very different. >> reporter: zain much different. the demonstrations have been very peaceful. today you had hundreds of people marching down the streets. in this city you also had demonstrators in the halls of the state capital, and there were no problems whatsoever. peaceful demonstrations, as we said. this is all about a police officer who this past friday shot and killed a 19 year old man who it turns out was unarmed. >> we will not accept madison police department shooting one of our children! >> reporter: the basic fact is not being disputed. a 19 year old biracial man was shot and killed by a police officer named matt kinney inside this home. but there are so many questions about why it happened. this past friday night a call came in here to madison police headquarters that a disturbance was taking place on the street. as officers raced to the scene they were told additional calls were coming in about the disturbance. and one particular name was being mentioned. >> look for a male black, light skinned, outside yelling and jumping in front of cars, 19 years of age, name is tony robinson. >> reporter: the calls about tony robinson continued to come in to police. and then a man called saying he'd been assaulted by robinson. >> the victim will be waiting at 1146 willy street. no shirt on right now. >> reporter: and about 30 seconds later. >> got another call for the same suspect. tried to strangle another patron. >> reporter: let's give you a lay of the land regarding the recordings you just heard. that building with the red awning is the restaurant where the man who said he was victimized was waiting for police. right down there is the gas station where robinson was seen without his shirt. then you can see the police cars here. this is the house where it happened. officer kinney went up to that door where the tarp is, and that's where the shots were fired. tony robinson was their friend. >> i heard wrestling, and things being knocked over. and my kitchen ceiling kind of shook. and the light. i figured, you know, something was going on. i heard more somebody go down the stairs. then i heard the shots. >> reporter: you heard the gunshots? >> yes. >> reporter: and how many did you hear? >> four to six. >> reporter: robinson was pronounced dead at the hospital. the police chief said robinson struck his officer in the head when he went in the house. robinson has had problems with the law. he pleaded guilty to participating in an armed robbery in madison last year and was serving probation as a result. the officer who shot him has been placed on paid administrative leave. did he have a taser with him? and did he use the taser first? >> that's something we won't comment on. typically i will tell you that an officer won't use a taser unless they have lethal backup. >> reporter: so if he doesn't have someone else with a gun you're not supposed to use the taser. >> that's correct. >> reporter: an investigation is now under way into the shooting death of tony robinson. it will take a minimum of four to six months to complete. people have been coming by all this evening to light candles and to leave objects in this makeshift memorial in front of the house where this young man was shot. there's an awful lot you can learn from the way things were handled in ferguson missouri, and the atmosphere here is very different. for example the name of this police officer was released receipt away. that's not what happened in ferguson. you also have the police chief say that this was his quote, that it's clear that this man was unarmed. he wasn't under any obligation to say this right away but it's an important fact that could certainly complicate the investigation. but the effort to be more open seems to have made this a much different situation, because like we said there have been many protests many demonstrations over the past few days and absolutely no violence that we know of zain? >> and the police chief visited the victim's family immediately after the shooting. let's hope those protests remain peaceful. in the meantime we await the results of that investigation. gary tuckman for us in madison, wisconsin, we appreciate t thank you. and now to the other big story involving race in the united states. officials' university of oklahoma are considering their options on how to punish the fraternity members on a bus chanting racial slurs. >> and what they were chanting is absolutely disgusting. the sigma alpha epsilon chapter has been shut down there. and the president says they will not be back. >> reporter: caught on video, members of the sigma alpha epsilon fraternity chant out a song using the "n" word. two short cell phone videos on a bus packed with fraternity members. chelsey davis was one of the first to see the video. >> this wasn't something they learned overnight. it was something well-known well versed that everybody on that bus felt privileged to say and to proudly clap at. >> reporter: it was davis who tweeted the university's president about the unspeakable bigotry saying quote, racism is alive at the university of oklahoma. she's the co-founder of unheard, a black student alliance advocating for change on campus. >> what makes it okay to say these things? nobody's made it mandated that they have cultural sensitivity training? >> reporter: while someone took the clip anonymously -- >> it's sad. it's hurtful. it's just really hurtful that students request think that this is okay. >> reporter: o.u. president david boren minced no words. >> we have no room for racists and bigots at this university. i'd be glad if they left. >> reporter: on monday the university said s.a.e. had to leave. students seeing packing vehicles. and a graffiti wall appears to read "tear it down." >> it's absolutely appalling and disgusting. whenever people take it upon themselves to do something like this it's it affects the entire organization. >> reporter: one student i spoke to says she was shocked that s.a.e. was the fraternity caught on camera because there are frats much worse. she's calling for the entire greek system to be investigated. norman oklahoma. >> a lot of people are praising the president of oklahoma university for stepping in so quickly. we'll have more on our next half hour. stay tuned. my live interview with the young woman you saw in the piece who helped blow the whistle. >> the president even offered to pay the bus fare. >> he's so keen to get them out of there. we shall move on here. day three of the boston marathon bombing trial included never before seen video of the 2013 attack. dzhokhar tsarnaev is accused of carrying out the two bombings along with his brother. >> his brother actually later died in a shootout with police. so tsarnaev is facing 30 criminal karges alone. here's our deborah feyerick. >> reporter: the tsarnaev brothers rounded the area together. tamerlin in the lead, the younger dzhokhar in the tail. he stood among spectators, several of them children. at 2:49 records show using a disposable phone used the day before. he calls hayes brother. moments later, the first bomb explodes. dzhokhar moves quickly in the opposite direction, reaching the corner just as the second bomb detonates. neither dzhokhar nor tamerlin have their backpacks. less than 23 minutes after the terror attack dzhokhar tsarnaev enters a near by whole foods and pays cash for a half-gallon of milk. he leaves only to return moments later to swap the milk. the driver speeds off. that night under one of two twitter accounts he posts "ain't no love in the hart of the city. stay safe people." he returned to his dorm room. he's seen here at 9:05 the next night, entering the university fitness center with a friend and staying for about an hour. the fbi gathered 4,000 hours of surveillance videos photos and home movies from that day. witness jessica kinski, the remnants of her legs sticking out from her dress, was wheeled up a ramp to testify. she described the bomb saying it did exactly what it was designed to do tear the skin and muscles away leaving body parts exposed. kinski instinctively reached to help her husband when she saw his detached leg and dangling foot not realizing she herself was on fire. prosecutors showed the burned camisole and hoodie she was wearing at the time. she says it matches all my burn scars. prosecutors offered another twitter account that belongs to dzhokhar tsarnaev. the posts are more radicalize. they talk about al awlaki. a train derail mants in the u.s. state of north carolina is captured on camera phone. take a look at this. >> oh, my goodness. >> oh, my gosh. >> oh, my god! oh my god! oh! >> absolutely frightening. imagine that. the amtrak train is actually traveling from charlotte, north carolina to new york when it hit a tractor-trailer stuck on the tracks. you hear those women screaming there. the force of the collision caused the train to partially derail. >> eyewitnesses there saw it coming. 220 passengers and crew members on the train when it happened. 55 of those passengers were taken to area hospitals with minor injuries. no one was killed. the state highway patrol says no criminal charges will be filed. this is the third major train accident in the united states in just the past six weeks. a story developing now out of argentina. ten people have been killed including two french olympians after two helicopters were involved in a mid-air collision. they were on their way to a town to film a reality tv show. the victims include eight french nationals and two ar jen ten yans who are believed to be part of the crew there. >> filming a survival show, the crash happened within minutes of takeoff. witnesses say the weather at the time of the crash was apparently good. the names of the good we are told camille fewfaw the third victim that we know of at this point, florence octode a long distance sailor. all of them killed. >> that's shocking images of the crash there. when we come back two republicans are in the sights of the president again. also accusations that other dogs may have been poisoned at a well-known dog show in london. that's up next. ugh... ...heartburn. did someone say burn? 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was he going to say i killed him? was he going to say i'm going to step aside and let an independent investigation explore the possibility that i was actually the murderer or that i gave formal or informal orders to have him killed? >> reporter: the despite the fact that he was killed near the kremlin, there are conflicting reports of whether it was captured on security cameras. the only witness was nemtsov's girlfriend. she was interviewed and quickly fled to her native ukraine. nemtsov was supposedly just days away from issuing a report exposing russia's involvement in the fighting in ukraine. now putin himself is revealing what he said the moment he decided to annex crimea. in a forthcoming documentary putin describes a meeting. >> i said to all colleagues we have to start working on the return of crimea to russia. >> reporter: just a few days later, unidentified gunmen took over the parliament. analysts are now worrying about what an unchecked vladimir putin might do next. >> if he were to decide for example to challenge the baltic states he could conduct provocations there the united states would be forced under article v of the nato alliance to stop aggression in the baltic states. so that's a very clear danger. >> reporter: now as every move of vladimir putin is watched very carefully. they're pushing for clarity in the nemtsov investigation. they're hoping for not just another whitewash of justice. brian todd cnn, washington. again, we're going to take a short break. when we come back one of the world's most prestigious dog shows is claiming that more dogs were poisoned at its dog show. stay with us. the lexus command performance sales event has begun. command track-tested precision with the fastest-growing automotive luxury brand on the road. including the exhilarating is. powerful gs. and first-ever rc coupe. with more new models than ever there's never been a better time to experience lexus performance. during the command performance sales event. get great offers on our most dynamic models. now through march 31st. see your lexus dealer. progressive insurance here and i'm a box who thrives on the unexpected. ha-ha! shall we dine? 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no doubt his death is the result of foul play. >> we do not want to think this was the act of a fellow exhibiter. hopefully, jagger was just the wrong dog on the wrong place at the wrong time. >> reporter: a protester interrupts the 2015 best in show with a sign saying mutts against crufts. there's never been an incident like the one involving jagger and they're saddened by the news. >> we've spoken to the owners and our heartfelt sympathies go out to them. we understand that the toxicology report is due out next week. but until that time we cannot know the cause of the tragedy. >> reporter: they are notifying the police as they mourn the loss of their much-loved dog. one owner writes to the person who has done it hope can you sleep well knowing you have killed our love family member and best friend to our son. cnn, erin mclaughlin. how did a toddler survive 18 hours upside down in a car in a freezing river. why the cold temperatures may have actually helped. also ahead. apple lovers rejoice. the company has released its latest device. we'll tell you everything you need to know about thenal watch. >> which is absolutely nothing. he's out there. there's a guy out there whose making a name for himself in a sport where your name and maybe a number are what define you. somewhere in that pack is a driver that can intimidate the intimidator. a guy that can take the king 7 and make it 8. heck. maybe even 9. make no mistake about it. they're out there. i guarantee it. welcome to the nascar xfinity series. welcome back everyone. you're watching cnn newsroom. i'm zain asher. >> and i'm john vause. in argentina, ten people have been killed including three olympians. they were on their way to a small town to film a survival reality tv show broadcast in europe. among the victims, camille muffat. another said he is sad for his friends and left horrified by the crash. the family of a teen killed in the u.s. state of wisconsin wants peaceful protest and not violence. tony robinson was killed friday night. his family says they are not anti-police but that his death marks the systematic targeting of police on black men. the school's president says they've severed ties with the sigma alpha epsilon fraternity. and they have until midnight to pack their things to go. the school students are not racist, they say, and that this behavior goes against what the university stands for. >> i was angered. i was outraged. and saddened, because we've worked so hard to create a real sense of family and community on our campus. and 99.9% of our students you know really care about each other. they really respect each other. and then to have a small number of people do that, it was unbelievable that this could have possibly happened with o.u. students. sooners are not racists. they're not bigots. they are people who respect each other and care about each other. for the sake of our students and the values that are represented here. when something happens that is so contrary to the values of our university i thought we had to take action decisive action and take it immediately. >> reporter: mr. boren, you said a small number of people. there have people who have come on cnn and other broadcasts and saying these are just a small number of people who were caught. this is pervasive throughout the greek system not only in oklahoma but across the country and that many of the leaders on those campuses have turned a blind eye to it. they just happened to be caught. >> well i think that it's it is happening all across our country. i agree with you. it's mott just the greek system. it's not just colleges and universities. it's ferguson missouri. it's all sorts of elements of our society are involved. and i think the only way you stop it the only way you put it a stop to it is to have zero tolerance when it is found out. i think clearly some of our students wanted this exposed. they wanted this video out there. and i've asked them to let me know, please when there are other things like this that happened. >> i want to bring in chelsey davis, a head of a group of students advocating for change. we heard the president of your university, david boren saying that it is unbelievable that this could have possibly occurred with o.u students. >> i wasn't surprised at all. i wasn't surprised at the things that were being said. more so i was disgusted at the fact that these were ou students and speaking about me about my peers and my friends in these derogatory and using these derogatory terms. i was just absolutely disgusted. but unfortunately, i was not shocked. >> i'm sure a lot of people were absolutely disgusted when they saw that video, myself included. i've got to ask you, though is shutting down sae going far enough? >> i think shutting down the chapter is not enough most definitely. that the university needs to go above and beyond these students. every party involved male or female. everybody on that bus needs to be expelled from the university. it is hate speech. i'm pretty sure there are plenty of rules within the student conduct. this is not enough and i hope that the university are really punishes them -- [ ding noise ] >> i'm not sure if you recognized any of the students but if you ever happened to bump into them at campus what would you say to them? >> i would use the moment as a moment of education. things that you said are culturally insensitive. many people unfortunately come from backgrounds where they're not culturally aware of minorities where they've never seen a person of color. so it could be a case of ignorance, but that does not negate the fact that is not acceptable. i would educate my peers as to what is right and what is wrong. we will not stand for this. it is unacceptable and extremely offensive. >> ignorance is absolutely no excuse. but were you surprised at all that someone on that bus, who is part of that fraternity chose to record their peers and send you that video. why did they do that? and why did they choose that route as opposed to speaking up? >> we were not given the video by whoever shot it unfortunately. i'm not sure what their motives were when they were shooting this video. i'm not sure if they knew that's what was going to escalate. i'm not entirely sure. i'm not sure. >> okay. well i'm so sorry that a lot of the students there, african-american students at ou are going through this right now. but we meesht you coming on and sharing your opinion with us. >> thank you for having me. thank you for having me. >> of course. okay well now to italy where they may have smashed a new world record one which has stood since the 1920s. they probably did not want this world record. local residents may be digging out for any kind of celebration. as much as 8 inches of snow fell in 18 hours. >> 256 centimeters. >> i am grateful to be living in atlanta. >> let's bring in pedram javaheri. >> it's more than boston's had for the entire year. box boston let it go. >> boston was the talk of a lot of people's discussion when it came to january and february. snowstorms every single week it seemed like. this particular event 18 hours, more snow than all of january and february combined. >> what's better to get it all at once? >> yeah i don't know either. >> i'm sure the kids if they have to skip school will be very excited about that. >> this is 190 kilometers east of rome. the records are really incredible. you take a look at photographs of people literally climbing up mounds of snow, and this coming down in one night's time getting up to the first story of some buildings across the region. this region sits at 4,000 feet high. so high elevation, notorious for snowfall. and i'm showing a locater. they see tremendous snowfall. they've seen 50 to 60 inches before in 24 hours. but the world record's potentially been shattered because what has happened. and officials will be out here trying to verify this record. there's the new potential 24 hour record up to 101 inches coming down 256 centimeters. that's the world's tallest man, from turkey he is 8'3" or 98.8 inches tall. that snow amount would get up above his head. previous record was out of colorado at 76 inches in the 1920s. and there you go boston the winter of 2014/2015. 105 inches of snowfall. the resorts could use significant snow. temperatures mild across the south. look at the warm weather. it is actually warmer in portland, will be at least, on tuesday than in malibu. 68 degrees there. seattle at 62. some cooling possible across the pacific northwest but a heat wave in the works for california. offshore component sets up closing in on 90 degrees. and guess what happens sunday? we have the los angeles marathon. just in time for the hottest weather of 2015. >> i can't get over those italian snow mounds though. looks like so much fun though. >> unless you're there. >> unless you're there and you have to get to work. >> but in l.a. it's that dry heat. >> you're going to hear it on twitter, 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let's finish with some real news. a toddler in the united states trapped in a car is in good condition and is singing and laughing. >> lilly spent 14 hours in that car. her mother was killed in the car. elizabeth cohen explains how lily was able to stay alive. >> reporter: late friday night, a man living in this neighborhood outside salt lake city hears a crash. he looks outside his door and sees nothing. what he doesn't know a car has skidded off the road and is now partially submerged in the spanish fork river. it takes until noontime saturday for the car to be spotted. a local fisherman sees the overturned vehicle in the water. >> the witness said there was an arm he could see inside the vehicle. >> reporter: the fisherman calls 911. police officers respond and wade out to the car. >> felt like i could hear somebody telling me they needed help. it was, it was very surreal. something that i felt like i could hear. >> reporter: they're not sure where the voice came from. when they get to the car, the scene is grim. 25-year-old lynn jennifer gross beak is dead in the driver's seat but in the back seat they find her daughter lily, just 18 months. lily is in her car seat hanging upside down in a part of the car not in the water. she's unresponsive but alive. >> i grab the baby in my arm. raised its head up out of the water. as i tried to release the seat belt. >> the child was passed to me. and i just ran up and climbed in the ambulance with the child. >> reporter: for about 14 hours, lily had survived hanging upside down in freezing temperatures in the upper 20s, with no food or water. >> it's amazing. children are very resilient. and i think sometimes we don't realize how much they can actually withstand. >> reporter: as for the temperature, being cold might actual lay have helped lily. >> when you become hypothermic, it slows the body down. metabolism drops, your oxygen consumption drops. it ends up being neuroprotective. >> reporter: in the end, the main reason is that her mother buckled her up in a car seat so she didn't go through a window or drown. something that isn't surprising to jennifer's sister. >> she loved lily with all her heart. she was the love of her life. >> reporter: primary medical center says the toddler is in stable condition and improving. the family shared this about her today. her improvement is astounding. right now she's watching dora and singing "wheels on the bus" with grand paw. she's smiling and laughing for family members. we're blown away by lily's progress and so grateful to her rescuers. elizabeth cohen reporting. >> and family members raised about $41,000 for funeral, for jenny's funeral and also to go towards lily's expenses while she grows up. >> great that she survived. sad about the mom. an incredible story. thank you so much for watching us. i'm zain aesh. >> i'm john vause. we will be right back after a very short break. you're watching cnn newsroom. anyone have occasional constipation diarrhea, gas, bloating? 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