maintain the infrastructure of democracy here that will be really critical because when you have a compliant legislature and you have an executive that holds all of the power in its possession, that s when you re really in trouble. you know, bart, you were looking at you found some interesting data when you looked at the counties of the people who participated in the insurrection who felt sort of compelled or motivated by trump s remarks, that there was sort of a pattern that you discovered. explain the pattern that you found, and what do you believe that tells us about how his message resonates? well, what i m reporting in the story is the work that s done at the university of chicago by robert pape and his colleagues, who went through all of the nearly 700 at the time arrested insurrectionists from january 6th and went back to
crisis and political crisis, you see the same hallmark. and you also see a lot of people standing around basically, look, that couldn t possibly happen here, and that s the problem that we face right now a year on is that some people still cannot grasp the peril that we re in and the risk that we have to our democracy looking forward. both grasp or don t want to admit the reality we may be facing. bart gellman, fiona hill, appreciate both of you on this topic. when we come back, what happens when a republican is willing to say in public what many in his party will only concede in private, that joe biden won the election fair and square. congressman peter meijer joins me next.
d democrats organizing as much as the anti-democratic forces are organizing, and they re not. barton gellman is a staff writer at the atlantic. as you read both those pieces and his latest trump s next coup has already begun. that was great. thanks, bart. thanks very much for having me. journalism is one american institution that s had to fight and improve itself and figure out a way to hold ground for the preservation of american democracy and the expansion of american democracy against the forces that seek to undo and undermine it. the court that s been a whole other battle. i think one of the most one of the wisest and most brilliant people in all of american public life and also one of the most prominent voting rights lawyers in the country and one of the most one of the most