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I mean, were getting some real beauties. >> i think theres blame on both sides. you look at -- you look at both sides. i think theres blame on both sides. and i have no doubt about it, and you dont have any doubt about it either but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. >> our current president came out of nowhere. came out of nowhere. in fact, ill go a step further. the people that went to school with him, they never saw him. they dont know who he is. >> you have to stan...