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stepians recorded deposition to try to establish key facts about todays theme, the big lie, that donald trump knew he lost election, but continued anyway to rally his supporters around the false claim that he had won. >> were also moments away from the supreme court releasing new decisions possibly on the key mississippi abortion case. well bring you any of the big cases as we learn about them. lets start with todays hearing because this missing stepian throws a wrench into the committ...

Reaction to this, do you think that the impact of this among republicans, the 40% who still believe the big lie according to many polls. do you think there is any persuadables in that cohort? >> i do. i think theres been recent polling that shows theres a growing number representing about 25% now the republican base writ large across the country. that can considered themselves accountability conservatives. theyre conservatives who want some accountability, to see some accountability for what hap...

Issues. this problem with his base, i wont even call it the republican base writ large. this problem has been around for a long time. some of the staffers in the white house now talking about how maybe this, you know, this bleephole comment wont be such a bad thing. it may resonate with the base. just like the nfl thing did. >> and that -- that -- >> still stoking the base. >> they are speaking to some feelings that we would like to feel like or pretend like are no longer there. they are still t...

Trump power and put his name on it he could have saved lives. >> let me just -- >> that may not help build his base. >> i actually dont think thats the case. thats the case with many issues. this problem with his base, i wont even call it the republican base writ large. this problem has been around for a long time. some of the staffers in the white house now talking about how maybe this, you know, this bleephole comment wont be such a bad thing. it may resonate with the base. just like the nfl t...

>> and spent millions of books, and it didnt work. i think that attitude is underestimating the intelligence of the american people a little bit. >> we agree on that. >> thank you. >> that beautiful women, cathleen, your wife, the camera cant get over there fast eno h enough. thank you. it should get over there. i am joined right now by michael steal, former chair of the rnc and howard fineman, editorial director of the huffington post. first michael steele, from the rnc chair, who won tonight? ...

Bit. >> we agree on that. >> thank you. >> that beautiful women, cathleen, your wife, the camera cant get over there fast enough. thank you. it should get over there. i am joined right now by michael steal, former chair of the rnc and howard fineman, editorial director of the huffington post. first michael steele, from the rnc chair, who won tonight? >> i think it was very clear that hillary stood amongst her rivals in a big way. in many respects, she just moved herself further to the left. she ...