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a lot. the 2016 election was all about issues. people voted for trump. they didn't like him and they didn't like some of the stuff he did. it's not anti-immigrant fervor. they cared about illegal immigration in trade and the economy. they said on these issues, i think this guy, he may not be somebody i want to invite to my tea party or have a beer with or whatever. i can't imagine any true american not wanting to have a beer with donald trump. >> katie: if you drink beer. >> charlie: beer or anything. they trusted him on the issues. he was talking about issues that republicans and democrats. a guy like adam putnam in florida, very popular politician from there. it hurts him, the fact that he was in washington so long. he hadn't been bringing up these issues. trump slashes in the brains of these issues that we are not supposed to be talking about. >> juan: thinking about what you're saying.
just give me a second. >> katie: go ahead, juan. >> juan: we can't wait to hear your point but i wanted to reflected charlie while i have the moment. when you think about republican party stance, i think about free trade. i think about being open to immigration. that's why i think we've remade the republican party into the image of donald trump. >> jesse: the only thing i would say command that i will let katie take the floor. i believe the only thing they can really hurt the president and the midterms are two things. the enthusiasm gap. that the democrats are rabid and they come out so strong and overlong republicans. or the trade issue. if he doesn't score tradewinds between now and november, a lot of the white working-class voters are affected by the free-trade situation right now. they may stay home. >> katie: trade is a local issue. midterm elections are all about turnout. we talk about president trump going to florida and having this rally, phil keating was reporting people camped out overnight. they are excited to be there.
there's going to be thousands of people there to support him. desantis has been accused of being in washington for far too long but he can make the argument that he's going to be a candidate. he's going to keep his promises if he wins the governorship. and he can govern like an executive, as the president has come on the number of issues. you can take the trump platform, illegal immigration, law and order, tax cuts, deregulation. apply them in a local sense. in that perspective, he may have something -- "the five" can i add one other thing to your two things that could hurt the president. i'm a little bit of a broken record on it because i don't think i've gotten the message through. that is the registering of new voters. the democrats are really good at it. they are super organized about it, and republicans need to do the same. >> jesse: go they do that at a rally like this? >> dana: these people are probably already voters. you need to find new voters. where can you find them? new voters are usually enthusiastic voters.
in virginia, ed gillespie has more republican turnout than ever in the history of the state and he loses by nine points. look at the total electorate, 12% of those voters in virginia had never voted in a gubernatorial election before. you need to try to find new voters because the democrats are doing it. >> katie: gubernatorial race is very different from the congressional race. congressional races are more specific on issues on the governorship. >> jesse: we are looking at the crowd started to gather in tampa for the big trump rally. what do you think he's going to stay tonight? he has given one of these every two to three weeks. is it going to renew material? the same old razzle-dazzle? >> charlie: i think there will be some new material. one of the appealing things about donald trump all along is that he's brought in new voters. people that haven't voted before ruth have been -- or who have been apathetic. you walk into a truck stop in the middle of the 2016 election
and we walked by a couple guys. they would be talking about what donald trump had said the night before. i think -- it was like with president obama in 2008. he was running a very different campaign. a very hopeful campaign unlike the 2012 campaign. it was hopeful he was bringing in new people cynical about politics. in both cases come i think it's very good for the republicans to get new people in. >> juan: the man who usually sits in your seat, mr. gutfeld, he says america is watching two movies and they are not the same movie. i see something different than you do. in this case, the flip side of what you're talking about is that trump activates the democratic base and a big way. that's why there is the enthusiasm gap. if you look at the poll numbers. for a while, people were saying he is at 45. that's the highest he's ever
been. he starting to go back down, and his disapproval rating is still 50-something percent. we talk about the different races, you have to understand maybe the trump movie for a lot of people commits playing out. he's very entertaining. you said he's very funny. >> jesse: i would say for the trump voters, the movie is an action thriller and for the democrats it's a horror flick. >> juan: jesse said that, mr. president. not me. >> jesse: he wrote up some approval numbers and we ran some numbers to the waters matrix. historically. >> juan: is able and getting there? >> jesse: wouldn't go that far back. 2006 and 2008, democrats picked up 20 or 30 seats or something. that generic congressional ballot had democrats up 13 to 15 points going in. now they are up seven points.
historically that's not going to be enough for them to pick up enough seats in the house to retake it. >> katie: the president is going to be extremely involved flying all over the country. he said he will be on the road six or seven days a week campaigning. we will see if we can keep up. they see it as an investment in his agenda long term. yes, he will be on the road for two or three months but they are saying it that we have to make sure we keep the house so that the agenda moves forward and democrats don't move forward with some kind of impeachment process. >> charlie: donald trump's numbers may be upside down but you know whose numbers are more upside down? nancy pelosi. i think we will start seeing maxine waters getting poultry people up have been running campaigns against them for a long time and they are still doing it. >> juan: you asked, we will see new stuff of the campaign rally tonight. i suspect it will be the same old stuff about immigrants. it'll be about nancy pelosi.
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socialist platform comes with an eye-popping price tag. a new study finds the medicare for all plan would cost over $32 trillion. that's trillion. over the next ten years. doubling all federal tax revenues to wouldn't be enough to pay for that. this study over at george mason university. sanders office has not done a cost analysis of his bill. when he announced it, 16 other senators, democrats, cosponsored it without a cost analysis. i think we have a list of those senators. charlie, have the democrats decided this is where they are going? they are all in for medicare for all. >> charlie: i'm sure there are some smart democrats in washington. certainly out in the country, who are not on board with this. but the fact that so many of their leaders are talking about this, it's absolutely staggering. you look at the numbers and of
course it's expensive. we also know it doesn't work. >> dana: that is the real key. >> charlie: you can point to all these reasons for rejecting it, but it's the moral issue. the idea that these people are perfectly okay with just taking things from people who work and giving them to people who do not work. the whole notion of, from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs, the question is who determines what people's ability is? if i was in charge, i would say i have no ability, so i'm not going to do anything. so i have a lot of need to, and so everyone's going to work for me. i sound like an old man. i was kind of born an old man. kids today, they are not even learning these things. they are not studying these questions in school. of course they come out and think yeah, socialism is great. >> dana: you talk about the
skiing. >> katie: bring your own bandages if you're going to italy for vacation. >> juan: bernie sanders went after the koch brothers who paid for the study. saying that they are opposed to health care and they just want to maintain the status quo. he said that about the democratic establishment. but the fact is most of the western world has medicare for all. not only that, they provide health care at a lower cost with better outcomes than we have in the united states. when people say leave it to the free market. according to every study. >> dana: no, juan. i will challenge that. >> jesse: name one. >> dana: it is the juan institute. >> juan: these studies have indicated we spend the most on health care. >> katie: for quality health care. >> juan: that's not what i was going to say. the reality is in our emergency rooms, they are jam-packed with people who should be getting
primary care. they shouldn't be in the emergency room. they are driving up my costs, your costs for health care. >> dana: our system isn't perfect. let me get jesse in there. tell us what we need to know. >> jesse: i have an anecdote like the italian one. in venezuela, sick people are taking dog medicine. that's how bad it is in venezuela. this is how they pay for it. they are going to have, in order to get the 32 trillion in america, they will have to raise the top rate from 37% to 74%. they will raise middle-class tax brackets from 20% to 30%. they are going to take the corporate tax rate from 20% to 40% and then they are going to impose a carbon tax. then they are going to impose a 20% national sales tax. then they are going to take the payroll tax and jacked that up to 10%. and then they're gonna say we want to bring u.s. military spending to the level of france. even that, after all that, that still doesn't pay for it.
>> dana: >> katie: in the end, t thatcher would've been correct. the problem of socialism. >> juan: we have heard this from people who say social security, that will kill the country. >> dana: well. give it 12 more years. basketball star lebron james claiming president trump is trying to divide the country. here his stinging words when we come back. with liberty mutual new car replacement we'll replace the full value of your car. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ to and practice... kidlots of practice.tion. get them started right with carnation breakfast essentials. it has protein plus vitamins and minerals to help kids be their best. carnation breakfast essentials. (voowners always smiling?ck
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i would never sit across from him. >> you would never. you wouldn't want to talk to him. >> no, i would sit across from barack. >> juan: kim kardashian refused to trash trump. >> i have nothing bad to say about the president. i am very focused. i don't agree with everything either. >> juan: my sports fan friend charlie is here. you follow sports like i do. you hear lebron james come out in this way and say in fact trump is often covered to encourage people to say racist things, behave badly. what do you think? >> charlie: first of all, i love lebron james. i admire him. he's an amazing athlete. he's worked very hard to accomplish all of it. but i think his read here is
this country. i think you would agree. i don't think we are better off after eight years of that. i was somebody who actually really did believe in 2008 that the good that would come out of -- i didn't support him and wouldn't have voted for him but the good that could have come out of it would've been some amelioration of that. >> juan: day now, kim kardashian has worked with the president and gotten a woman, alice johnson, released from prison. she was there on a low-level drug crime. >> dana: as jesse pointed out, it wasn't that low level. did she deserve this clemency? i think so. jimmy kimmel said there's other people on the list, like matthew charles, who was wrongly imprisoned. that case is before the justice department. hopefully we'll get some attention. i think she has the right idea witches if you've been an issue and you want somebody powerful to help you solve it, you can
figure out a way to work with them. i think that lebron james, i respect him. his decision to not want to sit down across from him, that's fine. but he is a leader in the country, lebron james, and in sports. he has the power to meet and he has the power to convene. if he changes his mind, i think you might find a willing partner in the president to have a conversation. >> katie: i think he should give the president more credit. if they had a meeting, i think donald trump would listen to his concerns and see what he could do within his administration to kind of help them further his goals. he seems like he's doing a lot of really great things. he just opened a school yesterday in ohio to help the ohio public schools to system. this is a president who believes in school choice to give students in poor neighborhoods a better future. i can understand why he wouldn't want to sit down. that's his right and choice not to but i think he could have an impact on the president and use
the power of the federal government to help some of his programs. >> juan: jesse, seems like everybody here doesn't want to talk about trump igniting racial division in the country. i don't understand it. in fact, lebron said after some of the things trump has done, he worries about his kids. >> jesse: well, he has a right to worry about that. that's fine. lebron has put his money where his mouth is. he's done a lot for the education in the state of ohio. i disagree with his strategy. i would sit down with him. the president will sit down with kim, the mullahs, the kardashians. kim kardashian, i don't believe trump divided at all on the anthem. i believe trump lead on the anthem. it was kaepernick and the other people who knelt and started the division during a time where there should be unity and it's not a divided issue on that point. it's not a 50/50. it's like 70-35 kneeling during
the anthem. among nfl fans, it's about 90-10. i would expect that president to come out and stand with the flag on that. >> juan: i don't think most americans thought there was a big controversy when this first started. i think donald trump used it in a way to stir his base. >> jesse: i think we covered it in 2015. >> juan: from all of you suffering from gutfeld monologue withdrawal, never fear, greg is here. he's giving us a sneak peek in his exciting new book. that's next. l more strength & energy in just 2 weeks. i'll take that. ensure high protein, with 16 grams of protein and 4 grams of sugar. ensure® we really pride ourselves on making it easy for you with 16 grams of protein >> tech: at safelite autoglass, to get your windshield fixed. with safelite, you can see exactly when we'll be there. saving you time for what you love most. >> kids: whoa!
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another planet, as if she's not already living in one. identity politics is the 7-eleven of self-esteem, a quick stop to become whoever you are. instead of shark week, why not... don't they remember those celebrity videos before the election? they are the ex-lax that cleared our political system of clinton constipation. >> charlie: it is the moment you've all been waiting for. greg's new book is officially on sale to pay. greg joined us from d.c. to talk about his favorite nuggets of knowledge like you to sob. greg, how are you. >> greg: hello, charles. we have switched sides. you are usually there and i am usually -- it's a bad british accent. >> charlie: it's really bad.
when i wanted to ask, of all the amazing monologues you have given. do you know how many there are? what's your number one single favorite monologue? >> greg: you know, that's like asking kirk douglas -- it's like asking kirk douglas to name his favorite child. he has 500 of them. i think i've done 1,000 monologues. the one i remember most is one of the, the montage, terror week. the idea that here we have a whole week devoted to sharks that do very little damage compared to what we are going through now with existential terror. why wouldn't we do we call terror week and every night highlight a different terrorist group. we bring home the reality of the real evil in the world, not some grim fish we really see. >> charlie: i think the problem with that is there wouldn't be enough boat footage.
or underwater footage. >> greg: just an idea. nobody took it out. >> charlie: dana, my question to you. a lot of these monologues get a little salty. i was wondering if you might want to point out some of the potty mouth stuff you think that greg gets away with. >> dana: greg and i have been on the show together for seven years. we sat next to each other not because i thought we would get along. because we were the shortest. it was the easiest way to light the set. i don't know if come i didn't know greg. i guess i did want to ask you. is it annoying to you that i start laughing in the middle of your monologues? i just get such a kick out of it. it's true, charlie. there are times when there are things i don't understand that i have to ask him about in the commercial break. your monologues are usually my
favorite part of the show. >> greg: going back to when this started, the whole point of me being on the show was basically at the end of the show, some comic relief, not really participate in anything else. but right this one little thing and provide some levity in otherwise serious news. it kind of evolved i guess into, i don't know what it is. i like to think of it as the monologues army trying to avoid something that everybody is thinking but they haven't articulated it yet. they might say if they haven't set it yet. i always figure each monologue has to be an unspoken truth when i'm helping to express. i think maybe that's why you laugh. people laugh when they hear something that in their head. >> dana: yes, and you would think i would never have thought to say it that way. we are onto something there. >> greg: i am preoccupied with certain kinds of, you know,
filthy things. potty humor. i haven't grown up. >> katie: greg, i have a question. this is katie. i'm filling in today. when do you figure out when to write these? are you in the shower? are you waking up in the middle the night, do you rate -- do you write them on your computer? >> greg: megan the producer will send me some options and i like getting options because i don't like to think. when somebody says do this, i kind of like it. even if i hate the idea. especially if i don't like the idea. it's a fun challenge to create something out of something that wasn't there. i write it on my computer. takes me 20 minutes. then i go to the gym and i'm on the stair climber and i have my
clipboard. so i'm on the stair climber for an hour working on questions for the show but also kind of reworking it, and then i edited the monologue all day. i basically rearrange the monologue constantly, it seems like a big waste of time because it always ends up being back the way it was. but that's kind of -- i'm a neurotic person. >> katie: good to know. >> greg: as if you did not know that. >> juan: i love conservative humor. the fear i have, someone coming from the left, hey, i a lot of conservative humor these days is all about mocking. like skinning the libs. >> dana: it is owning, not skinning. owning. >> jesse: you should know that. >> juan: jesse watters. >> greg: where do you think the right learned it? they learned it from the left. >> juan: i don't think so.
i can't wait for your next book which would be skinning donald trump. >> greg: i won't be skinning anything. what i'm interested in this finding the unspoken truth and having fun with it, whether it's right or left. you have to understand it was the left that owned this territory for the longest time. to them, it was okay to mock because they felt that the person was necessarily immoral or evil so you could say whatever you want. the right is now catching up. >> jesse: if the president were to tweet something about your book, what would you suggest he tweet? >> greg: if president trump were to tweet about my book, it should be "buy this book. it's amazing." and then you would have to have a link. it's very important you have a link. amazon would be good. simon & schuster. he never puts a link on it. >> dana: he doesn't like amazon. be careful. >> greg: that's true.
he won't do amazon. go to your local bookstore. >> dana: congratulations, greg. >> greg: thank you. see you tomorrow. i will be on "special report." any tips? >> katie: be nice to bret baier. >> greg: can i say one more thing? the food here in the d.c. bureau is not good. >> juan: they were trying to welcome you. >> greg: they told me to tell you that. >> charlie: and next, a brazen heist to steal a shark caught on video as america asking what with the thieves thinking? that i next.
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>> jesse: it's like a fraternity prank. i think we need to do armed aquarium employees. this can happen. we need to batten down the defenses. we need to protect these sharks with all the firepower possible. this was obviously a soft target, we need to do a little bit better job. >> katie: sharks have self-defense. the investigator said one of the men grabbed the shirt by the tail while the other two people wrapped in a wet blanket and wheeled it out. >> dana: was it a prank? >> katie: they were stealing it. >> charlie: apparently the guy, he had other, lots of other aquariums. >> dana: that's terrible. >> charlie: you think about serial killers or crazy people, they have to operate along because they can't get anyone on their wavelength of weirdness. this guy had two accomplices. this is socialism right here. >> juan: socialism. >> charlie: socialism on display. this was something they needed,
and nothing is owned under socialism. you can steal whatever you want. >> juan: your argument would say we shouldn't have an aquarium so that young people go and watch a public aquarium and learn about sharks. what amazed me was jesse's response. jesse wants to harm sharks, like they are not bad enough already. >> jesse: arm aquarium employees. >> juan: we should arm kindergartners and you go to the aquarium and you have to face guns. >> jesse: i was kidding, juan. >> juan: the most amazing part of this was the baby stroller. >> katie: and wrapped in a wet blanket and a bucket. >> jesse: the smartest idea. how else are you going to carry it out? >> dana: you can't put it in your tote bag. >> juan: a baby stroller, it's kind of innocence. then they denied the police the right to search the car. that was interesting. >> dana: i want to know why the woman, they are still
deciding whether she should face charges. the other two are facing charges. i think she should. in case you are listening. >> katie: it's a war on men. >> juan: a war on sharks? >> katie: helen, the shark, is doing just fine. >> dana: imagine the tale she can tell. >> katie: imagine. "one more thing" is up next. there's a lot to love about medicare.
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what doesn't happen all the time. this saturday, be sure to come by the briel public library, that's in briel new jersey for a special conversation i'm going to moderate with the author of the new book "the bankers life." i read that book in six hours this winter. i couldn't put it down. it's fantastic, great this summer great beach read. the event starts at 10:00 a.m. on saturday august 4th. you can rsvp by visiting booktown.com/event. also tomorrow there is a very special guest i'm going to have as part of my "one more thing." >> that's exciting. >> a little tease. i will not even tell you. >> i read a book this summer in five hours, so there. >> little golden books are pretty easy. >> walked right into that one. it was actually the art of the deal. so in france this guy has got a jet powered up or bored jet pack and check this out.
the friends actually are better than we think. this guy hovers up in the air and then harbors out into the middle of the ocean. check this out. this is the future, folks. you know how that felt always has a bunch of robots playing around and serving you coffee? this is the future right there. people are going to be doing this. >> you can get across the water right here really quick. >> this is how i'm going to be commuting to work. >> katie was skydiving and forgot about pulling the string. >> never going to live this down. >> no strings on the jet pack. >> i can share myself a bit of a connoisseur of liquor stores. you expect to see alligators in florida but it's not everyday you find one in a convenience store. >> what is he doing? >> a florida man decided to bring an alligator with him while making a beer run. here he is chasing people around with a reptile, even in going the fridge with it. he said he was blackout drunk at
the time. [laughter] what is that? >> that is so awful! >> he had taped around his snout. >> he's terrorizing people. that is bad and i'm sorry i just said that. >> so bad. nobody deserves to be called that. >> that is like an armed robbery with a weapon. an alligator. never heard dana say that before, sorry, guys. this is from a local news station. he's worked for the department of transportation -- [laughs] -- in charge of taking care of the flags on the brooklyn bridge. there are two flags, one on each tower that fly 24/7 throughout the year. it seems like a fitting job because he was born on the fourth of july and immigrated here from columbia with his parents when he was ten years old. both of his sons are police officers, even more patriotic. he says the hardest and most meaningful part of the job is when he lowers the flag to
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about it. something directly has him spooked. but it's caused him to make a tactical error, which is to come out and essentially throw his son and his son-in-law under the bus and say, yes, they were there to get dirt on hillary clinton. >> okay. joining jared and his son under the bus was jay sekulow, one of his last remaining tv lawyers other than rudy giuliani who may just have the tv part of that job. let's look at his statements now rendered as someone who has been on both sides of the question about what the president knew about the trump tower meeting. >> when you look at a meeting -- when you look at a meeting, george, that took place a year before, now two years ago, the question is what law, statute, rule or regulation has been violated. no one has pointed to one. >> they pointed to "olympic zone" spir si to dee frautd the united states. that would be one possible charge. aiding and abetting a conspiracy. >> do you buy that's a serious risk for donald trump, jr. and jared, frank?
and what he's actually supposed to do. so the idea he wouldn't be doing this necessarily behind closed doors is i think a little bit difficult for some people to swallow. now, whether any of that rises to the level of illegality is another question entirely, but certainly he's shown that he's not terribly careful about these, at least by outward appearances. >> and you write today that -- here's the thing. this is a tweet -- this is about the president's tweet yesterday morning. this is a tweet about how the trump tower meeting was totally fine. nothing illegal to see her. if you have no real concern about legal exposure from the meeting why distance yourself from it? has anyone offered you any plausible explanation s to your very astute point there? >> yeah, i think everybody is focusing on the admission that this was in fact about opposition research. what about the fact that in the space of one tweet we have the president both arguing that this is totally much ado about nothing, not illegal at all, oh, and by the way, i wasn't involved in it at all, just in case there was something going on here. there's no reason to separate yourself from something like this if there was nothing wrong about it.
cadre within every administration who is making that argument for more disclosure, you know, rip the band aid off, let's get whatever the troubles are get them out as fast as possible. it's going to be better for us in the long run politically and legally, almost always they lose for a variety of reasons. we've heard a lot about this period. we've not heard everything that we're going to hear about that period to this point. but i think the president -- it's an extraordinary thing. and i think it's just worth stepping back for a second and acknowledging what just happened here. the president lies all the time. we know he lies all the time. the lies aren't acceptable. 4,000 whatever he's told in eight months according to these counts. but this lie is a different order of lie. for the president to go on kind of in some kind of a fit over the weekend and basically say, just come straight out and said, you know what? the story i told you, i lied about this and i'm worried about my son. i'm either too dumb or actually don't care, but one way or the other, i am, as frank said, he just threw his son under the
bus. i mean, the admission of it is an add myths of incredible will law. >> his son can be charged. >> the lie is an historic lie that he told. the admission is a potentially cataclysmic admission for the whole -- this element of the investigation and particularly for his son who his father has basically went on twitter and testified against. >> frank, can you unpack that for us? we stare at those trees. we stare at the tweet as if it's a tree. the forest started as a counter intelligence investigation by the fbi for the bureau you're very, very familiar with. and we now have the president corroborating a fact about why his son went in and met with russians. and i talked to someone who knew a little bit about this meeting and said that they always knew this was a meeting. and in attendance were russians close to the kremlin and with ties to russian government officials. is that potentially more
evidence that the prosecutors could use, investigators could use against don junior? >> there's no question here. what height of irony for a father's tweet to become exhibit a in evidence against his son. i was joking over the weekend on the air that the folks at twitter should essentially install a pop-up miranda warning on the president's twitter account just saying, hey, you have the right to remain silent. please use your right to remain silent. but yes, indeed. we have potentially evidence in the form of a tweet. and ironically, if the president had come out previously and just said, look, we're new at this, we were voted in because we're from outside washington. we didn't know what we were doing. here's the story. the cover up is always worse than the crime. >> the stupidity defense. it can be deployed and it's plausible. >> but it's too late for that. the president's hubris, his inability to say i screwed up and got it wrong is going to cause his downfall.
that's where we're headed today. >> hope hicks, the period of time from which we know she went in and testified to robert mueller, questions about whether her testimony was consistent with that of other people, i think we can put their names up. hope hicks, sean spicer, reince priebus, don mcgahn, josh rafael, their names were all submitted to the white house in that period right after that statement was crafted aboard air force one that turned out to be a lie. the president now agreeing that statement was a lie. are you hearing any reporting from your sources about either the role hope hicks may have played in providing information about the conversations the president was prone to have with close aides about what the experience was like in the mueller room? >> i am hearing they pushed back on it. that's not why she was there. they're not going to say that's the reason. the list you have is interesting because most of those people don't work there any more. one thing about president trump is you can leave, but you're still kind of in his orbit.
>> right. you can check out -- other than pour don mcgahn. don mcgahn is still there. >> you can see this is an interesting time. what you're going to start to see is the president right after this vacation next week is moving straight into campaign mode. >> right. >> he says he might be on the road five, six times a week. white house says maybe a little less. >> got to find five or six candidates. >> hope hicks is going to be out there. sean spicer is already on the road. there's going to be a temptation for him to talk to these people about what happened, what they said, what they didn't say, you know. >> right. >> could you just insert the word irresistible before temptation, that would be -- >> do you have any new reporting whether or not the president is going to sit for an enter rue with robert mueller? >> no, still his attorneys are saying, don't do it. and he still wants to do it. and you can see just from these tweets that he's bursting. >> he's bursting, he has more admissions. we also put together the evolving defense of the trump tower meeting. at some point robert mueller isn't going to need to interview him. he's going to tweet out -- he's
got all the questions. here's what we have. when "the new york times" broke the story about the trump tower more than a year ago, don junior dismissed it saying it was primarily about an adoption program. that statement drafted, of course, as we've been discussing aboard air force one on the way back from the g20 summit. donald trump admitted on twitter this was a meeting to get information on an opponent. that is one glaring inconsistency. another on whether trump was involved in drafting the statement. jay sekulow said days after the story broke, the president wasn't involved. months later trump's attorneys admitted in a memo sent to robert mueller the president dictated it. on whether trump knew about the trump tower meeting in the first place, the official party line is trump knew nothing about it. that's what donald junior testified to before the senate judiciary committee back in september. of course now nbc news is reporting trump's former fixer michael cohen is prepared to tell robert mueller donald trump did know about the meeting beforehand. let's a lot of flips and flops with the president and his legal
team which raises a key question on their outstanding claims that nothing came of the direct offer from russian nationals to offer damaging information on hillary. do we still believe that to be true or is that a known unknown? robert mueller has indicted close to two dozen russians. almost everyone in the trump orbit has a lawyer and is either a witness or a subject of an investigation. and it seems like it's a known unknown whether or not they gleaned anything there of value. >> it's 100% a known unknown. we don't know the answer to that question at all. what we know is that from that point forward, from july, august, september, october, with an extraordinary did egree of relentlessness, there were coordinated messages coming out of the kremlin, social media accounts coming out of the kremlin and the trump campaign. without any investigative authority and subpoena power i can tell you -- >> just with google. >> you can see the two of them working hand in glove. >> right. >> so, is there on a circumstantial basis, should we
accept the notion that nothing came out of that meeting? i think you'd be out of your mind nothing came out of it. we have not proven anything like conspira conspiracy at this point, but if there is nothing there, there is no reason it is not there. if it's there, i'm betting bob mueller is going to be able to prove it. >> frank, give you the last word on this question. how does that look to robert mueller? >> yeah, when -- look, when you're building an obstruction case, you're trying to prove inat any time i intent. all the subsequent statements lying about the meeting shows intent to obstruct. so it clearly has value. whether it happened or not, whether dirt was provided or not doesn't essentially matter if it goes toward obstruction. >> all right. doesn't sound good. thank you so much for spending some time with us. when we come back, the star witness in the manafort trial gets ready to take the stand. he's one of the original trump campaign aides charged in the
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statements that he made to lisa page showing bias. >> the number 4 at the department of justice's wife working with the people at gps, fusion gps and the steele dossier. there is a new foia request against former minority leader harry reid and his potential action there. we know that christopher steele talked about the dossier 12 times after president trump tried to initiate a conversation about that 12 times after president trump was elected, so yes, there is frustration -- >> the white house is consistent in their attacks on the russia investigation. stepped up in recent weeks as new reports signal mueller's probe may be speeding towards trump's inner circle. his aides showed sunday performance in the twitter attacks over the weekend. why aren't mueller and the 17 angry democrats looking at meetings concerning the fake dossier and all the lying that went on in the fbi and d.o.j. i can't read this.
more looney bird stuff from the president and the people following him in line. here's the punch line for the president. people close to the president believe he may be increasing his legal jeopardy by-icontinuing t speak publicly. he himself is under scrutiny for possible obstruction of justice. joining our table elise jordan, msnbc political analyst and now this is so awesome, co-host of the new podcast words matter with our friend steve schmidt. john, frank and aaron are still here. reading it, i feel like i'm doing my part. we have very savvy, smart viewers. doing my part to spread his lunacy. this is the irrational response to what is a very rational evidence-based, fact-based investigation into him. it drives him crazy because bob mueller, someone who is part of the legal team told me today, bob mueller is following the facts wherever they take him. they seem to be leading him deeper and deeper into trump tower. >> it seems to be all of trump's team has to defend him with is
to dig into his own craziness with these tweets. there would be times during the campaign where donald trump, you know, i believe it was about august, mid august, where he started to tank. it was after he had attacked -- >> the kahn family. >> and he calmed down a bit in his rhetoric. he started to stabilize and the polls went up again. he went through a period with the mueller investigation where he wouldn't tweet about it. he seemed to be somewhat listening to his lawyers. that has gone all out the window. you can tell he thinks attacking it is a witch hunt. >> you look at his response, i think there is a line, stay with me here, that runs through attacks on lebron james and his wife sort of receiving to, i don't know, give lebron a little bit of the benefit of the doubt there. >> i'm looking forward to the unified field theory. >> he's addicted to cable. if he could just watch fox, which he should, that would be
my advice. he seems lunatic. he sees the other stations, he sees the manafort trial, he sees lebron on cnn and tweets about it. he sees the cohen stuff. he seize lanny davis talking about what cohen could tell mueller if mueller decided to use him. i mean, he is obviously now running from his own sort of awareness of what he might be in trouble for. >> yeah. i mean, yes. look, he is omnivorous. he's amusingly obsessed with don lemon who he calls the dumbest person on television. he cannot take his eyes off don lemon. >> i find it creepy. >> i don't mean it that way. i mean, look, for someone who is supposed to be the dumbest person on television, what are you doing watching him, mr. president? >> he also had the best own in twitter history, too, when he tweeted that donald trump locks children up. lebron james puts them in school.
>> right. i think that's what put melania over the edge. >> look, he's obviously wholly triggered, at the same time -- again, one doesn't want to get away from that. yes, it's getting crazier because there is more -- the walls are closing in. a lot of different metaphors around this. but it's getting more serious for him. he is triggered. he does watch television. he hate watches morning joe. all those things are true. yet at the same time, if the reality is that your legal jeopardy and political jeopardy are getting worse, the only you've done that worked in is push up mueller's negative with the republican voters, it's worked, it's not surprising he's doubling down because he doesn't have anything else. >> that's the only tool he's got. aaron, i heard last week before he sent out the tweet on thursday, calling on sessions to end the mueller probe, that he was, again, musing to confidants about firing sessions. is that still a flash point?
that's still something people are having to go into mueller's investigators to answer questions about, isn't it? >> it seems like this is something that keeps coming up. it's not just firing sessions. it's maybe firing rosenstein, maybe firing mueller. we get this dribbled in piecemeal as it comes out. he's talked about firing or somehow getting rid of all these different people. i think suggests this is part of a pattern of behavior and there's got to be, as with every aspect of the mueller investigation, we probably only know five to 10% of what's actually happening just because the special counsel's office is so tight lipped about everything else. so, yeah, i think that that's a reasonable conclusion to draw here. >> 5 to 10. i would put that at the high end of what we know. we have some breaking news in the manafort trial. star witness rick gates is now on the stand. ken dilanian is outside the courthouse for us in alexandria, virginia. is this happening before expected and is he giving any
information that surprises you or surprises people in the courtroom? >> hey, nicolle. i just stepped out of the courtroom where gates had just taken the stand and really started the introductory portion of his testimony where the prosecution was introducing him to the jury. he was explaining his background and how he came to work for paul manafort. first as an intern back in '96, '97 for the firm that charlie black was a part of. and then for davis, mfanafort partners and how he sort of took on increasing responsibilities at that firm. it was just a really dramatic moment. after all, he was manafort's protege for ten years and here he is coming in, sitting down 20 feet from paul manafort beginning his testimony against mr. manafort. but there was also a fairly dramatic moment before gates took the stand on redirect for the accountant cindy laporta where the prosecution seemed to imply that $10 million loan we heard to manafort was actually not a loan but was, in fact,
income. so one of the things that manafort's defenders have long said about this case is this isn't about russia. he was paid bayy ukrainians, russians. he was actually paid by russian, oleg. that's the man he was offering private briefings to during the campaign. that is important not really for this trial, but all of us who are following this to try to understand what it means for the russia investigation, nicolle. >> frank figliuzzi, a smart man named ken dilanian once told me follow the money and all these questions about the trump campaign and russia and their ties to it. it seems like the backdrop or sort of the context to be gleaned is that that is precisely what robert mueller's investigators have done. and we're going to understand the entire pathway between paul manafort and the russians who funded him, and maybe we'll have the answer to just why paul manafort went to work for donald trump for free. >> so, it's really -- you're on the money, and so is ken when you say follow the money,
because when you hear ukraine in this trial, when you see the tens of millions of dollars coming into manafort's pockets because he's working on behalf of a pro-russian ukrainian candidate, understand, we're talking about russian money. that's what we're talking about here. so this does have significance. and if indeed the prosecution is impliedi implying that the $10 million payment was a payment not a loan, that is significant. with gates taking the stand, this is a confident move by the special counsel. he's essentially calling manafort's bluff. he knows manafort is going to blame all of this on gates. so essentially, mueller today is saying, you know what, i'm calling gates to the stand, not you. he's our witness and he's going to be more credible, even though he's already pled guilty to lying to the fbi, he's more credible than you. so take your shot at him. here he is. >> and, elise, gates is a cooperating witness for the entire mueller investigation,
not just the manafort trial. mueller isn't done with gates until he's done with gates. i have to imagine unlike manafort since gates was around after inauguration, he was around through that, he was around the west wing, he was around the white house. he was around the president's kids, he was around senior white house staffers until the week before he was indicted. he has to be the person that's triggering, if not the president, some of the people around him. >> he was there at the start and he was there very importantly at the -- during the rnc convention which i still think is going to come back and be a pivotal moment in this entire investigation when what went down with the platform change, when that finally is revealed. and then now today, he has a lot at stake. frank can correct me if i'm incorrect, but i think that he faces at least five years in prison. and extraordinary cooperation, maybe he could get that lessened. this is someone who probably does not want to go to prison, as most people do not. and paul manafort faces a life in prison. so the stakes are incredibly high right now. >> here's another known unknown,
something everybody assumes. when the president talks about paul manafort was there only a while. he's known manafort for years going back. the campaign chair for a pivotal period. who is to say paul manafort after he left the campaign left the campaign -- who is to say -- >> cory lewandowski didn't. >> who is to say paul manafort wasn't still in touch with the campaign or people on the campaign or donald trump and others on the campaign? again, known unknown. how much communication was there? my reporting suggests at least donald trump stayed in touch with paul manafort. how much more he talked to people on the campaign? we don't know the answer to that question. and certainly his friend rick gates stayed behind. why did rick gates stay behind when he was mostly coming to paul manafort, they had been close, they had been together forever. rick gates stayed. is rick gates not talking to manafort throughout the fall when the conspiracy or collusion happened, if it happened? color me skeptical. >> ken dilanian, do you want to
jump in on that? >> yeah, i don't have much to add to that. my head is in the trial right now. those are all fantastic points. the point you made earlier about gates as a cooperator in the entire mueller investigation. we don't be know what he's offered on potential collusion. manafort's lawyers may know, though, because they have all his fbi interviews and that may mean donald trump knows and that may be the reason trump has been tweeting what he's been tweeting in recent days. >> but manafort's lawyers would only know what gates has testified to as it pertains to paul manafort. they wouldn't have access to what gates has testified to about other individuals who may be subjects of an investigation at this point, would he? >> well, discovery is pretty broad in a criminal case. anything that would tend to impeach him, that a prosecution would have to turnover. we don't know everything that they have, but they might have a lot. >> aaron blake, i have heard that the gates testimony was one that could bring about surprises, that there were people that he was never sort of cast out, that after the
inauguration paul manafort was sort of outed as having a dirty book of business. but rick gates was sort of viewed as the good guy, the clean guy, which is bizarre when you look at everything we've learned about how they off rated inside their firm. are you picking up any anxiety around current or former white house advisors about what gates may know? not just in the manafort trial, but his broader sort of window do trump world? >> i think you make a good point that he's cooperating for the entire investigation. this is not just a case about paul manafort. all these charges had to do with things that happened before the campaign. but that doesn't mean that's all that mueller has on manafort in this case. it doesn't mean he doesn't have anything on collusion right now. there is a severe interest when you're in a position like mueller is in keeping details of another investigation that has to do with another potential crime as quiet as possible. and, of course, the idea here is that the manafort trial is really just a pretext for getting some kind of cooperation
out of him. what kind of cooperation would that be? you would think that would be pertaining to the collusion aspect of this investigation. another key point here that i think people might have missed a little last week is we learned that mueller had farmed out the investigations of some democratic and republican lobbyists on foreign lobbying, potential foreign lobbying case violations. he sent those to new york. he sent the cohen case to new york. this is the case that he's trying. he's trying the manafort case himself with his own team. why is that? well, it's partially got to do with the fact that manafort was, of course, so close to president trump. but i think it also suggests that there is another use for this besides just the financial crimes here. that mueller sees this as a potential game changer in the broader probe and that this may not be -- these two manafort trials -- there's two of them now -- may not be the last he's involved in this case with. >> they may answer some of the questions about russia. ken dilanian, frank figliuzzi, aaron blake, thank you all. one year since charlottesville,
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compassion and impulse control is attacking the intelligence of a basketball star. donald trump would rather do battle with black athletes than malevolent dictators is at a minimum reflective of his skewed sensibilities and his willingness to pander to the racist element in his base. joining the conversation, kim atkins, chief washington reporter for the boston herald. op-ed for "the new york times." all msnbc contributors. kim, let me ask you to weigh in. let me put up for our viewers. this is a list we threw together of some of the hottest and uglyest flash points of the trump presidency. charlottesville as we mentioned. the attacks on frederica wilson by him and his chief of staff. they called her wacky. attacks on maxine waters which are ongoing. they call her an extraordinarily low iq person. calling nfl players sons of pitches and tell theme they a t
all fired. and african nations. the president agitated by successful and/or powerful black men and women. >> and i think that's the point that i was going to make, you hit it on the head, powerful people of color, black people who dare to criticize him or his policies in particular. i thought it was interesting that he said, i like mike in that tweet because up to now michael jordan is not somebody who has been really prominent, really out front in protesting the president, although he did say that he supported lebron in this effort. but he attacks the people who either he sees as a threat, like president obama, remember when he questioned how he got into columbia university. or oprah as insecure. anybody who challenges that narrative who is a black person or person of color is immediately targeted by this president above other people who do the same. i think it's not must to say that he's doing this to appeal
to his base. this obviously is something that the president clearly feels, it comes from the gut. it seems to be one of the more honest moments that we see from him when he does this sort of lashing out. >> mike lupica, you draw a line from lebron's work as sort of a reluctant warrior for social justice through billy jean king, arthur ashe. talk about the place lebron is carving out at this moment of complete vacuum of leadership in washington. lebron seems to be filling an important place in the conversation. >> nicolle, i think this guy is in the process of leading a great american life. and he's going to build it out of his own experience in akron , ohio. and i think he's going to be a world figure the way arthur ashe was, the way billy jean king -- ali did not start out wanting to change the world. he didn't want to be drafted. he didn't want to be in vietnam. over his life he became an
important figure in the area of social justice. lebron is only 33 years old. think how far he can go with this. and, again, as kimberly was saying, you look at this, both sides of this debate. he can't just say that he's angry at what lebron james said. he has to imply that he's stupid. it's like when meryl streep took out after him. not only did he not like that, she was a bad actress, too. he ascribes all of these other qualities to people who have hurt his feelings. but he can't win this fight with lebron james. i keep saying this, nicolle. one guy starting the i promise school. the other guy comes at this from trump university. >> that's a good point. you've also got the sinister and the ugly under belly of trump and his supporters, not just tolerating the racism of donald trump's presidency, but cheering him on. i mean, it's chilling to watch the video of him calling nfl players sons of pitches.
they were cheering him on. lebron draws a wide base of support and children. >> speaking of stupid, how about attacking the most popular charismatic sports figure in america? that's a smart one coming from a politician. i do want to say i have a fourth grade daughter katia and her vocabulary is much larger than the president's in reference to, in reference to the quote you read. but look, this is part of the pattern that we've seen from this president now for years, going back at least to the birtherism. the constant use of very basic, very malevolent insidious racist tropes in order to stir up the most bigoted aspects of his base. the pattern you pointed out, always questioning the intelligence of african americans, whether media or sports or elsewhere. of course congressman waters.
congresswoman waters. that's something -- there is something that's at play there. that needs to be pointed out. the fact this is a year's anniversary of charlottesville ought to remind us of exactly what this presidency is about. and of course it's not just for african americans, although it is for african americans. it's for other minorities throughout the world. mexican-americans, so many people that he's attacked. >> can i just say, first of all, when he was talking about the most charismatic, most credible athlete, i was going to say you mean steph curry? when did the president start attacking steph curry? put that aside. yes, he attacks -- he baits his base and he attacks prominent african americans who have attacked him, he does does that, sure. he labels alma african countries in private s-hole countries, right? >> eyesore? >> he's not a maligned political figure, he's a racist. on the day the access video came out, that same day, october 27,
2016, was when when donald trump was giving interviews, i still believe the central park 5 are guilty and should be put to death. that is a campaign that he waged, a racist campaign against not powerful african americans. he's been doing it forever. the history of racism in the family, it runs straight through him. it's not restricted just to the lebron jamess in the world. he doesn't like black people. >> whoopi goldberg and i were discussing whether he was a racist. it was around the access hollywood time, the birtherism and the attacks on the central park. what do you think it is that his supporters bake into their support for him? i don't think that every trump supporter is a racist. >> i think there are a lot of racist trump supporters and a lot of not racist trump supporters but are willing to
tolerate the racism because they like him for other reasons. >> what are the other reasons? >> they like him because they're willing to vote for him because they like the supreme court judge, the tax cuts, express their sense of grievance, things they think trump gives voice to, they're willing to sort of say -- they probably have not confronted their own deep racism in some senses, but they would say they're in favor of racial equality. but that they don't think -- they think trump is just talking about that stuff. they don't see it as insidious as it is and they're willing to excuse it. i'm not saying they should be willing to, but they are willing to excuse it because they think there are other trump does that they like. >> i think that's right. >> plr plenthere are plenty of supporters who come by their support honestly -- >> they excuse the racism for a reason. that's the question nicolle is asking. >> we ought to be explaining to them without making allegations of what they're willing to excuse or not. we ought to be explaining why this is so. >> here's the deal. if you have a child, you should
know already. i'm not explaining to any trump voter. my parents included. you associate with someone who is a racist and you get the taint of being a racist as well. i think we're done with that. that was the excuse in 2016 when he was an unknown. we're now 365 days after charlottesville. he is now governing as an american president who is also a racist. enough. >> believe me, i know. but as abraham lincoln said a long time ago, a drop of honey draws more flies than a gallon of gall. >> i guess i don't want those flies any more. after a quick break, at what point does free speech become incitement? and what questions should we be asking about the president of the united states? hi i'm joan lunden.
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explaining this to the american people. they purposely cause great division and distrust. they can also cause war. they are very dangerous and sick. again, when do these tweets go too far. bret stephens writing trump will have blood on his hands. maybe trump su poses that the worst he's doing is inciting the people that will come to his rallies to give reporters like cnn's jim acosta the thirng. and maybe he thinks that most journalists richly deserve public scorn. for every 1,000 or so trump supporters whose contempt for the press rises only as far as their middle fingers, a few will be people like my caller. of that few, how many are ready to take that next fatal step? that was about a death threat you got. tell us about that and your concern about where this is leading. >> this is the third time that someone whose politics clearly align with those of the
president has implicitly or expressly threatened to kill me. and it's one thing if there's some crazy person who is doing that. it's a very different matter when the president of the united states is naming an entire category of people, an entire profession as the enemy of the people. remember, this is a phrase that goes back to lenin if not earlier. this is a phrase that has been weaponized by dictators and demagogues to target the fourth estate, to target those of us in the press trying to hold those in power to account and bring the news. previously i thought that journalists would be in danger only in places like pakistan where my colleague, my late colleague, danny pearl, was murdered, in mexico, venezuela and so on. it's astonishing that this is now happening with the open public support of the president. now, we had a shooting in maryland. fortunately it was not politically motivated, but five
journalists were murdered. and i think we are marching towards the day when someone who thinks that he is taking directions from the president and acting in the best interests of the american people against those of us presumptive traitors around this table, someone is going to do that in a major american newsroom. when that happens, mr. president, the blood will be on your hands. >> can i just say one thing about this real quickly. the thing that is so striking about the voice mails in your phone, the guy who's calling you and talking about shooting you is invoking the language, directly invoking the language. you are an enemy of the people. he's invoking the president's rhetoric directly and then making a threat of taking out -- of using violent action. i think that's the most chilling thing about that. not that it's just out there but the people making the threats are adopting the rhetoric. >> mike lupica, i think we're too careful. i think this leap that bret made is long overdue. i don't think we should wait until one -- why does the
variable have to be just one guy that's nuts? he is essentially labeling the media an enemy of the people. there are violent people in every subset of american society. and why do we have to wait? why can't we do something now to make sure nobody gets hurt? i have to say i hear the same conversation take place around the fbi, that the things he says about the fbi every day, if you live outside of washington and the fbi comes to your house in some sort of hostile act, the president could have blood on his hands if an fbi agent gets hurt if that's someone that subscribes to his political ideology and believes that he's doing as bret just said the work that the president wants done. >> nicolle, i agree with everything bret said. in my newspaper career i have had death threats from time to time. the shooting at the "capital gazette" wasn't politically motivated, but that guy was mad at that newspaper. my dear friend, the great columnist carl and his brother
rob worked at that paper and was gunned down that day. he was just a fine writer and editor himself. but the guy who did the shooting was mad at one paper. we've got a president who wants you to be mad at all the papers if they print stuff that he doesn't like. he wants you to be mad at all the networks if they run stories that he doesn't like. as far as i'm concerned, bret was dead on the other day. this enemy of the people stuff is -- to me is a grenade with the pin pulled. >> kimberly atkins. >> i agree. and it's not just, as you said, with journalists. the rhetoric that the president is giving, even about the racist comments that he makes that we talked about before, we've seen increased hostilities towards people of color on youtube every single day. i personally have experienced that and animosity because of my profession. it's something that is growing. it is something that is real. it is something that we can point to a cause of. >> kimberly atkins and mike
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enquirer," and how much were they paid? what "the wall street journal" is now reporting tonight. president trump going after kellyanne conway's husband, who has been an outspoken critic of the president. and kellyanne conway is asked, does she share her husband's concerns? the high school basketball player kept off the court, out of school, because he never got vaccinated for chicken pox. is he putting students at risk? the garbage truck scare, in flames and headed straight for a home. the talk show host and what she revealed today about addiction. and there is news tonight on that popular actor who suddenly died. authorities now revealing what was behind it. good evening. and it's great to have you with us here on a tuesday night. we have a lot to get to, and we begin tonight with those new charges, after a deadly bus crash. a charter bus flipping over on the interstate. that bus driver has now been charged just a short time ago. the horrific images from the scene.
two dead, more than 50 injured, many of them children, rushed to the hospital. the bus flipping on a foggy i-95 exit ramp in virginia. the bus landing off the road and on its side, many remain in the hospital at this hour. the passengers were traveling from florida up to new york. and abc's david kerley leads us off. >> reporter: this bus on its side, filled with horror early this morning when in the fog -- >> i have multiple injuries. >> reporter: -- it careened off an i-95 exit ramp nearby richmond. children among the 57 onboard. >> small girl with dislocated knee, several subjects bleeding. >> reporter: two people were killed. >> people stuck underneath the bus. >> like i'm in the spin cycle in somebody's dryer. you know, the bus is just flipping. >> reporter: from a mass casualty event to a local disaster. >> we did think about some needs for a medevac, but due to the fog, we knew there was no way for them to deploy that unit. >> reporter: nearly everyone on the bus was taken to a local hospital. one survivor telling the local
paper it was like a roller coaster when the bus, on a trip from orlando to new york, rolled over several times at 5:30 in the morning. police say the 40-year-old driver from staten island is tonight charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter. >> just want to get home. just want to get home. >> let's get to david kerley, with us live tonight. he covers transportation for us. and david, you've learned more on this investigation. the driver now not only has been charged but, police now say speed was, in fact, a factor? >> reporter: speed, and police say that that exit is prone to having accidents, david. and we have learned from federal officials that this bus company has a good safety record. this is its first major accident. david? >> david kerley leading us off again tonight. david, thank you. and as we were on the air here last night, we took you to that dangerous inferno out of control, and tonight, authorities just a short time ago near houston revealing more tanks are now on fire tonight. eight tanks now blazing, two more exploding into flames today when firefighters briefly lost water pressure.
tonight, of course, the concern now growing for families in the path of that billowing smoke. and debris actually landing in their yards now. abc's marci gonzalez again tonight. >> reporter: tonight, those towering flames burning out of control at this chemical plant for a third day. >> it is evolving. it is a dangerous situation. >> reporter: today, debris falling into neighborhoods. >> they look almost like a lump of charcoal. >> reporter: officials closely monitoring air quality, insisting it is still at safe levels. the wind carrying what huge plume right towards houston. but officials say that smoke is 4,000 feet in the air, high enough off the ground, they say, to not cause any health problems. but jennifer rosas says she and her 74-year-old mother are already feeling the affects, so much so they've had to block off the windows of their home with plastic. >> because my eyes were so red and burning, i have to sleep with a washcloth on my face. mom's throat started getting worse. she started developing nosebleeds.
and so, i thought, this can't be normal. >> reporter: the company that owns this plant has set up a hotline for anyone impacted. now offering an emotional apology to the community. >> this isn't an event we wanted or planned. >> marci gonzalez joins us live again tonight from outside that plant. and marci, you've been talking to those concerned residents, really all day about the air quality, but local authorities still saying the air is safe tonight? >> reporter: yeah, they say it is still safe for now, david. but people here are still very cautious. the schools reopened today, but teachers were told to keep students indoors because of this. and now fire officials are saying they don't know how much longer this could keep burning. david? >> marci gonzalez tonight. marci, thank you. there is also a breaking headline tonight involving the billionaire owner of the new england patriots, robert kraft. prosecutors now offering a plea deal, but what he would have to acknowledge and what kraft would have to do. prosecutors offering that deal in the last 24 hours.
kraft would have to admit guilt, and that's not all. here's abc's victor oquendo in florida. >> reporter: tonight, florida prosecutors offering to drop soliciting prostitution charges against billionaire new england patriots owner robert kraft. the deal offered to kraft and 24 other men would carry several requirements. kraft would have to acknowledge he would have been found guilty at trial of soliciting a prostitute. take an educational class on the dangers of prostitution. perform 100 hours of community service. pay $10,000 in fines. and submit to an std test. >> the question was, does the video contain mr. kraft inside receiving the alleged acts? the answer to that is yes. >> reporter: kraft and nearly 200 other men were arrested in a sweeping prostitution ring last month involving several spas in florida. police say the six-month sting operation found evidence the women were victimized by spa owners. authorities claim they found indications the women were living on the premises in unhealthy conditions, and that owners of the spa brought them
over from asia. the arrests exposing the dark underworld of human trafficking. >> this is not about lonely old men or victimless crimes. this is about enabling a network of criminals to traffic women into our country for forced labor and sex. >> reporter: just after the charges were announced, a spokesperson for kraft said in a statement, quote, "we categorically deny that mr. kraft engaged in any illegal activity." >> let's get right to victor oquendo, who has been following this case from the start. and victor, this deal would mean those misdemeanor charges would go away, along with any possible jail time. are we hearing anything tonight from the patriots owner? >> reporter: david, we reached out, no word from robert kraft tonight. although he would not have a criminal record, he could still face punishment from the nfl. according to league policy, owners are held to a higher standard than players. david? >> victor, thank you. we're going to turn now to the dangerous weather tonight. the state of emergency, the rescues, those families on rooftops, with flood warnings from the dakotas all the way down to the gulf coast tonight,
more rain now coming. more than 80 cities and 70 counties are under water in nebraska alone. the flooding has been deadly. abc's gio benitez taking us inside the devastation tonight in nebraska. >> reporter: tonight, the historic floodwaters inundating communities, damaging hundreds of homes already, are on the move. after those dramatic chopper rescues in nebraska, residents in northwest missouri bracing for impact. in st. joseph, they've filled more than 100,000 sandbags already. >> it's a dirty, nasty job, it's hard work. >> reporter: the missouri river is expected to reach its highest level there since 2011. this, as we see new images of the devastation, the fast-moving icy waters left behind in nebraska. rivers breached at least a dozen levees in nebraska, iowa and missouri. and bridges weren't spared, either. just take a look at this one, destroyed by those floodwaters. repairing public property in this state could cost more than half a billion dollars. agricultural losses could be double that. vice president mike pence
surveying the damage in the flood zone today. southeast of sioux city, iowa, the rose family is among those now cleaning up. >> i don't know if we're going to rebuild, because it's going to cost a lot. >> reporter: volunteers are helping them salvage whatever they can. >> gio is back with us live tonight. he's in douglas county, nebraska, and we took note of that number today, gio, that about 200 miles of levees have been breached because of this flooding, 200? >> reporter: that's right, david. and the peak flood season actually starts in may. it takes about six months to fix those levees, so, they may not be done by then. and of course, you have all of this property damage, you see it everywhere. there is so much work to be done here, david. >> all right, gio, our thanks to you again tonight. in the meantime, we turn now to amazon chief jeff bezos tonight, and this question. who leaked those nude photos to "the enquirer" and how much were they paid? what "the wall street journal" is now reporting tonight. and here's abc's linsey davis. >> reporter: tonight, the question of who leaked explicit photos that billionaire jeff bezos sent to his mistress,
lauren sanchez, may have been answered. according to a "wall street journal" investigation, "the national enquirer" paid $200,000 to sanchez's brother, michael, who then sold bezos' secrets, including those intimate texts and photos. according to "the journal," david pecker, the publisher of "the enquirer," was initially uneasy about proceeding with such an explosive story, anxious the powerful bezos would sue. but ultimately, the paper reports, he approved the deal. and shortly thereafter, bezos, who is reportedly worth $137 billion, accused a.m.i., the publisher of "the national enquirer," of blackmail and extortion, claiming a.m.i. threatened to publish the embarrassing photos unless he stopped his investigation into just how the tabloid obtained the text messages. in response, michael sanchez, a hollywood talent agent, says that he will not dignify the claims, adding only that "the journal's" reporting is based on old rumors. david? >> linsey davis tonight. linsey, thank you. we move on now to the white house. president trump's new war of
words, and one of his most trusted counselors, kellyanne conway, has now been caught in the middle of this very public feud. the president today blasting conway's husband, george conway, calling him a, quote, total loser. it came after george conway very publicly questioned the president's mental health. and kellyanne conway was asked, does she share her husband's concern? abc's cecilia vega at the white house. >> reporter: the president today taking aim at kellyanne conway's husband, calling george conway "a total loser." it comes after he questioned the president's mental fitness for office. conway saying it's getting worse, and that "americans should be thinking seriously now about trump's mental condition and psychological state." the well-known conservative lawyer and frequent trump critic even posted pages from the american psychiatric association manual, highlighngrs for narcicisstic and anti-social personalities. reporters asking kellyanne conway if she shares her husband's concerns. >> no, i don't share those
concerns. and i was getting -- i have four kids and i was getting out of the house this morning. >> reporter: conway concedes his wife is not happy when he publicly trolls her boss. >> i don't think she likes it, but i don't -- you know, i've told her, i don't like the administration, so, it's even. you know, it's one of these things. >> reporter: today, conway told "the washington post," "the mendacity, the incompetence, it's just maddening to watch." saying he tweets about president trump, quote, "so i don't end up screaming at her about it." >> all right, cecilia vega with us live tonight. cecilia, the president taking aim at kellyanne conway's husband. he, of course, took aim at the president. cecilia, we know the president also going after the late john mccain. meghan mccain in the last 24 hours defending her father, who she reminded everyone, passed away nearly seven months ago. well, the president was asked today why still go after him. let's listen. >> very unhappy that he didn't repeal and replace obamacare, as you know. i was never a fan of john mccain and i never will be. thank you very much, everybody. >> cecilia, you've covered this for some time, the president
making it clear again today, even after mccain's death, he's not letting this go. >> reporter: yeah, david, and this one goes back a really long time, back to the campaign, when then-candidate donald trump said that john mccain wasn't a war hero. you'll also remember that president trump has said he's a counterpuncher, but in this case, david, he is fighting against someone, as you just reminded us, that meghan mccain says has been dead for nearly seven months. >> cecilia vega with us again tonight. thank you, cecilia. next this evening, to the president's former personal attorney and fixer, michael cohen, and what we learned today. newly unsealed search warrants now reveal just how long he was a target of robert mueller's team. and what they were after. abc's pierre thomas now. >> reporter: newly unsealed documents show robert mueller had his sights on michael cohen much earlier than was known. a full nine months before the fbi raid on his home, office and hotel room. >> mr. cohen, why do think they raided -- >> reporter: the fbi obtaining a search warrant for cohen's e-mails in july 2017, investigating several possible crimes, including what they call a scheme to defraud mu
cohen, $22 million dollars in debt, failed to disclose he was aggressively raking in $2.8 million in payments from a number of corporate giants, some based overseas, on the promise of an insider's advice on how to deal with a trump white house. investigators also looking into campaign finance violations allegedly involving donald trump. the details of what they call "the illegal campaign contribution scheme," nearly 20 pages long, fully redacted. the investigation apparently still active. >> pierre, news on michael cohen tonight. but there's also news today that could give us a hint on how long this mueller investigation could last. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, we've learned, he's staying at his post longer? >> reporter: that's right, david. rosenstein was expected to leave by mid-march, but we're now being told he may stay a few more weeks to help out with the mueller report, which is being finished up and will be handed over to the new attorney general, bill barr. david? >> pierre thomas with us tonight. thank you, pierre. now, to the middle of the country, and new developments
tonight in the murder of a firefighter in indiana, gunned down in front of his home. authorities releasing 911 calls, including one from his wife, who now faces charges linked to the investigation. here's erielle reshef. >> reporter: tonight, this newly-released 911 call under scrutiny. >> my husband just got shot. >> reporter: a distressed wife telling a dispatcher her husband, 51-year-old robbie doerr, a veteran firefighter, has been fatally shot outside their evansville, indiana, home. >> all i saw was my husband's headlights pull into the driveway and then i heard a bunch of popping. >> reporter: elizabeth fox-doerr becoming a widow that night last month. but the day after her husband was laid to rest, she was arrested, charged with obstruction of justice and misinforming law enforcement. >> the charges she's facing is for deleting a phone call from her phone and then not being honest with investigators when questioned about it. >> reporter: that call, police say, was received before she dialed 911.
>> what type of car it was you saw drive away? >> i did not see a car. i did not see a person. the only person i saw was my husband laying on the ground. >> reporter: david, police say fox-doerr is not a suspect in her husband's murder. she has pleaded not guilty to those other charges. david? >> erielle reshef. erielle, thank you. we turn overseas tonight and to the massive humanitarian disaster in mozambique. the government tonight confirming more than 200 people are dead, and the death toll could climb to more than 1,000 following that powerful cyclone. the storm hitting with winds up to 106 miles per hour. there is still much more ahead on "world news tonight" this tuesday. the neighborhood scare. the garbage truck, fully engulfed in flames, headed straight for a home. you could hear the neighbors in panic as they saw it coming town down the street. the talk show host and what she revealed today about addiction. there's also news tonight on that popular actor who died suddenly. now the cause. and the high school basketball player kept off the court and out of school tonight
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kentucky health officials are underlining that they have 32 students out sick with the chicken pox right now, at this one school, and say they're not letting any students who aren't vaccinated back to class until the outbreak is over. the student who is suing says it's unfair, because he can't play ball, but all sports and extracurricular activities at the school have been canceled, too. david? >> all right, steve osunsami, thank you. when we come back here, the popular talk show host, and her very personal reveal today about addiction. and more on that garbage truck fully engulfed in flames and headed straight for a home. you'll see the moment when we come back. you'll see the moment when we come back. a new range of innovative air fresheners with no heavy perfumes that you can feel good about using in your home to deliver a light, natural-smelling freshness. febreze one neutralizes stale, stuffy odors and releases a subtle hint of fragrance like bamboo or lemongrass ginger.
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breaking news, no charges will be filed against larry baer. a six figure settlement at the county jail tonight. the i-team investigates. >> light rain is on the way just in time to qualify as spring showers. >> less than three weeks after this giant struggle between larry baer and his wife went public, there will be no charges. it turned into a scuffle and ended with her falling out of her chair. we want to know what you think. the results are in real-time.
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