Year 2023? the southern baptist convention made their position on women in ministry clear a long time ago. with the baptist faith and message that they adopted in 2000 saying that the office of pastor is limited to men. but this move this year and what s happened with both churches as well as the first vote to pass an amendment, which would expel fellowship churches which have women serving as pastors of any kind, this is a further diminishment and devaluing of women across the convention. and it s a part of as you say a battle of denominational politics. as people who are in power are trying to stay in power and to use women as the site of their battle. so this convention or this constitutional amendment you were just talking about to only allow men to serve as pastors, they actually will need to vote against next year for it to go into effect.
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People were telling him to return it. now, that doesn t mean that there wasn t one person that was giving him good advice that he was ignoring, that i am sure there was definitely somebody. but for the most part, most people don t have what it takes in order to tell donald that you re wrong, you have to do this, because donald doesn t want to hear it and if you do say, it he just terminates you. yesterday we saw him really projecting this sense of confidence. he went out to the versailles café in miami, he was surrounded by the crowds, he did another speech later. but his former chief of staff john kelly, who doesn t really talk that often, he told the washington post and this is a direct quote, excuse the profanity, he said that he scared this is the way he compensates for that. he gives people the appearance he doesn t care, by doing this.
Long time ago. with the baptist faith message that they adopted in 2000 saying that the office of pasture is one but this move, this year, and what has happened to both the saddleback and baptist church. as well as the first vote to pass an amendment which would disfellowship churches which of women serving as pastors many kind, this is a further dish management and the value of women across the i-mention. and it s part of as you say, a battle of denominational politics. as people who are in power are trying to stay in power. and to use women as the site of their battle. so this convention, or this constitutional amendment that you were just talking about. to only allow men to serve as pastors. they actually will need to vote again next year for it to go into effect. is there any path forward? what are you gonna do? i think many of the churches that have women serving as pastors, and that includes children s pastors, youth