disgusting, both inside and out. you take a look at her, she s a slob. reporter: or disparaging nicknam nicknames, like his moniker for senator warren. i ve got more indian blood in me than pocahontas. reporter: but this time those who know trump say something is different. so far he has not come up with a nickname for nancy pelosi. he is searching in his mind for some horrible name to attach to her but he hasn t quite settled on it. he may be getting advice perhaps from his daughter on this issue, and they may be telling him, don t do it. as tempted as you are, you re going to make things worse if you give her an awful nickname. reporter: despite the overall indications that nancy pelosi is winning this battle of public perception, political analysts and members of congress are warning that this could turn on a dime and that about a month into this shutdown, it soon might when both trumps and pelosi s base supporters will simply have had enough and start to ask loudly, when
he hasn t quite settled on it. he may be getting advice from his daughter on this issue. they may be telling him, don t do it. as tempted as you are, you are going to make things worse if you give her an awful nickname. reporter: despite indications that nancy pelosi is winning this battle of public perception, members of congress and political analysts are warning this could turn on a dime. now, about a month in the shutdown, it might. both trump s and pelosi s base supporters will have had enough and they will ask loudly, when are you two going to figure out how to work together on this? brian, thank you very much. excellent report. more on the breaking news. the white house formally flatly denying a bombshell report that president trump directed his lawyer, michael cohen, to lie to congress about a major trump business project in russia. all new lexus es. every curve, every innovation every feeling. a product of mastery. lease the 2019 es 350 for $399/mo. for 36 months.
as we near the end of the 28th day of the government shutdown, what began as a policy battle has grown into a more personal battle. brian todd has been checking with the trump biographer. the president is not used to people who refuse to back down. reporter: trump s biographers say he is thrown off by the fact that a strong woman has taken him on, is tough with him and may be winning this battle of public perception. there are no votes. reporter: it may be the most unlikely grudge match in american political history. the 6 3 washington novice who shoots from the hip versus the 5 5 5 insider whose every move is