as if you know, there s a real connection between what s happening in chicago and baltimore and new york and in many urban areas. and that is why and that is why i think we need to share information on what has worked and what has not worked and be heard, which is what reverend wes and all of us are talking about doing. but i think that at the same time, we ve got to be honest about people including you, and others have been demonized and denigrated for trying to deal with these issues. and when you try to discredit those that will stand up then you only add to the frustration of those that feel they re not being heard, and anyone that tries to help them to be heard is going to be cut down. let me bring in baylon woods. he s a reporter with the baltimore city paper. baynard, you were right in the middle of the clashes today. what s the scene now? yeah we were. we re now over a little bit