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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:58:00

of hostage situation, right? the economy will blow up unles you negotiate, you give us wha we want. and until people start to frea out about it, the, it does not work as a forcing mechanism. people tend to think the problems will be solved, s it s not happening there s a little fear that we, are like, sort of coasting towards oblivion because kevin mccarthy can barely, barel delivered this vote on a thing that s not an actual, real mill it s basically a messaging bill, and he could barely get majority on that like, his ability to actuall deliver the votes for that whe the time comes, are you worrie about that, about actually breaching the thing? well, i think that s wher democrats have the upper hand, which is that ultimately, th onlyway mccarthy is probably going to get there to pass a budget that biden will actuall sign is if we come up with something that enjoys some bipartisan support so, very clear that kevi mccarthy does not have control of his congress. this is not speaker pel

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:57:00

but what i m going to do and what i think people on bot sides of the aisle in congress republican or democrat, should do, is look at each of the lin items in the budget and as ourselves, is this a investment of tax dollars that will return dividends to our economy and our country fo years to come? so, expanding the child ta credit does exactly that it s an investment in ou future workforce, it s money well spent investing in things like insulin makes it cheaper ultimately, for health care, because it reduces highe health care costs, caused by people who don t have insulin. and so, i think the goal her is to look at each expense i think it s appropriate for democrats and republicans to take a lot of responsibility for every taxpayer dollar. but it is not to just come u with kind of this across the board political gains an leverage okay, so there s a weir situation right now that goe the following way. the debt ceiling breach is a forcing mechanism to make deal, right? and the gop uses

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:56:00

about across the board everything except, of course you know, the defense budget they are going to talk about cutting. so, i think ultimately, this kind of across the board strategy is just a bluff to tr to gain political leverage against democrats and presiden biden. the president, of course, has released his budget an it s a very different vision it would expand the child ta credit, casts caps insulin a $35 a month, it would help states expand childcare options, there are some executive actions on the care options as well increased pell grants. paid and medical leave, minimum tax on billionaires. i mean, that s likely not to happen either, with kevi mccarthy as house controllin things how do you see the path forwar between these dueling visions? there s definitely going to have to be a negotiation here. republicans have control of th house, as you point out, s this is going to be differen than last congress, when president biden was able t pass the budget that reall reflected his

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 07:56:00

about across the board everything except, of course you know, the defense budget they are going to talk about cutting. so, i think ultimately, this kind of across the board strategy is just a bluff to tr to gain political leverage against democrats and presiden biden. the president, of course, has released his budget an it s a very different vision it would expand the child ta credit, casts caps insulin a $35 a month, it would help states expand childcare options, there are some executive actions on the care options as well increased pell grants. paid and medical leave, minimum tax on billionaires. i mean, that s likely not to happen either, with kevi mccarthy as house controllin things how do you see the path forwar between these dueling visions? there s definitely going to have to be a negotiation here. republicans have control of th house, as you point out, s this is going to be differen than last congress, when president biden was able t pass the budget that reall reflected his

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:09:00

for one of the other branche of government to make sure tha their vigilant on this that, of course, is why th senate judiciary committee wants to hear from chief justice john roberts last week, committee chair dic durbin said justice roberts letter requesting either his testimony or the testimony of fellow justice quote, there s ample precedent for sitting justices of th supreme court to testify befor congress, including regardin ethics he is right. back in 2011, then justice stephen breyer and anthony scalia, you see them there testified before the senat judiciary committee on the rol of the court in american life, including the questions of ethics i think there are several different things i think one is what money yo can take or can t take, for th most part, whether the reporting requirements and som of the general ethic requirements that are, you can t sit in cases, those ar statutory, and i think the bind as period i ve always thought so the real key to the

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