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Hostage because a group of conservatives in the house want to add a provision to the funding bill that stops president obamas executive action on immigration. Democrats and some republicans have pleaded with them to give it up. But still the fight goes on. With me now is exactly the person that i want to talk to about all of this the nations first ever secretary of Homeland Security tom ridge. Governor i know that you, too, disagree with what the president is doing Via Executive action on immigration. But is this the way to go about opposing his plan . You know, michael, the cacophony inside the beltway for the past couple weeks reminds me of an expression i think we all learned from our parents and teachers when we were kids two wrongs do not make a right. The president is wrong. I think he has exceeded his constitutional authority. I think my republican friends are wrong in holing the department hostage. I mean these men and women go out daily to try to make us more secure and safer

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