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Periods of time or for life. i walked on market street today in san francisco. michelle malcolm exaggerates, but only by a little. this mass incarceration movement that somehow the people have committed crimes in america, that somehow they are victims rather than in many cases, those who committed serious misdemeanors, just plain wrong. i find this harbinger of the hill. >> shannon: do you want to add to that, brad or go to the third point? >> i want to say the apple doesnt fall far from the tre...

This mass incarceration movement that somehow the people have committed crimes in america, that somehow they are victims rather than in many cases, those who committed serious misdemeanors, just plain wrong. i find this harbinger of the hill. >> shannon: do you want to add to that, brad or go to the third point? >> i want to say the apple doesnt fall far from the tree. his harrogate parent is bill ayres. >> shannon: they raised him. okay i want to get this to a berkeley instructor and you talk t...