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in droves. the storm hit virtually all of the nation's 83 islands located hundreds of miles off of the coast of australia. our linda kin candidate has more. this is the sound of wind gusts of up to 200 miles per hour as cyclone pam slammed into the pacific island of vanuatu endangering the lives of nearly 250,000 people. >>it's absolute devastation here. there's uprooted trees. roovs have been ripped off everywhere. roads are blocked. >> it looks like an absolute -- it is devastating. i'm just driving around where you can drive through because there are a lot of roads that are blocked off. trees haven't just fallen across the road here they have fallen across -- in some places you barely see over the top. the water is incredibly rough. there are some villages that have just been absolutely decimated. there are local huts which are native thatched roofs and walls as well. they've been absolutely blown away. >> most of us in the hotel ended up sleeping underneath the facilities in the bathroom. i've been through many typhoons including category five larry in 2006. this was phenomenal. it went on and on forever. >> pam is one of the strongest cyclones ever to hit the region. people took cover in churches and schools. the capital city of port villa home to nearly 6 million in population suffered power cuts. in at a conference in japan the prime minister spoke with an heavy heart as he made an appeal for international help. >> i'm speaking with you today with a heart that is so heavy. i don't really know what impact cyclone pam -- >> evacuation centers and we're working with the government how can we provide shelters? all the agencies on the ground. >> it may take weeks before the full extent of the damage is known. linda kinkade, krn this. the pictures say it all. in a stunning consequence he was in vanuatu reporting for his serious, the wonder list. you spent a lot of time there. a lot of time with the locals. we saw the pictures. talk to me overall what the infrastructure is like. >> it's deceiving. where we see port vila. they have relatively modern facilities there. so many islands are living in the past and, i mean, no concrete on any of these places. and we went there for that reason. these folks are on the edge of development. they're deciding what is best for them. whether tourism is a way to go. it's easy to are are -- right behind him is shelter. >> you said some of the people even live in the trees. >> exactly. yeah. there are tree houses. i'm picturing, you know, this beautiful little place where we went. there's a church there with a tin roof. i'm picturing the people huddled inside there under the volcano. we went into one of the schools. but it's getting through the 200 miles per hour winds in a house like that where the little girls live is one thing. after wards when you think about these are folks who every day wake up and decide whether to fish or pick their meal. >> they're self-sufficient. i know they told you this is among their chief concerns. it's something like this could happen. >> absolutely. there was a big one in the '30s that really rearranged the communities on different islands because people couldn't no longer live on low-lying. this will be -- i can only imagine and shudder to think about how it's going to change their lives. >> can you tell me it was like for you and your small crew. not a ton of camera crew. what it means for the relief and aid workers. >> from here it takes three days. from australia it's about a four and a half flight. the airport there, the run ways are shorter than they would like. it's a limited size plane can get in there. ships, of course can dock. to get to the outer islands, these are grass airstrips that can only take small cessnas. even if they loaded the biggest possible plane full of water and food -- >> a lot will have to come by ship and it will take time. >> exactly. >> one sort of upside is what was surprising to you, and i think to everyone watching is the communication. the cell service for the people that have cell phones is actually quite good. so for notification. >> in theory yes. it surprised me. but, again, when the sign was shining. i heard reports that maybe one tower survived. they're rated for a category three. this is a five. so that amazing signal i got on the top of the rock and, you know we've sent e-mails to all of our friends and who knows how long before they are able to recharge in order to check. >> absolutely. >> and we know the early numbers six dead but that's likely going to rise. >> hearts are breaking. if i do have a second, because so many people who saw that original have asked. if you go to cnn.com/impact you can help. there's the best ngos red did toy -- ready to help as soon as they can. >> go to cnn.com/impact. you can help. it would be greatly appreciated. let me go to tom, our meteorologist joining me now from the cnn weather center. tom, when we talk about this storm, i think the question a lot of people have now it's done the damage on vanuatu, where does it go next? >> well, it's dropping down toward areas of new zealand. there are warnings there. it's not going to be near as strong as it was. as we watch our location now, i'll show you where -- here is hawaii. the warmest waters in the world are in the south pacific across the top end of australia. at one time this week we had four systems that we have been watching. it's extremely active. in fact one moved to western australia, one to the north, this is nathan. we have what most likely a typhoon heading toward the philippines. you can see the strongest and largest. hurricanes and cyclones are all the same. notice the colors of purple. what we find are the winds are the strongest. keep in mind in the southern hemisphere they circulate clock wise. much different. if you think of the damage of hurricane sandy. if you think of katrina or eye says even andrew in florida, this is more powerful. so port vila the capital 50,000 live there. 65,000 in the island but you get down in the southern islands as well. that's where another 33,000. so the hardest hit area where the eye went through affecting 100,000 people. there's a quarter million that live in this island chain. that's what we're watching. we had 26 foot storm surge and most of the locations very vulnerable on the coastline. as you saw talking with bill they don't have the structures that is needed. it's going to take weeks to find not only the death toll but to give aid to everyone who is going to need it. devastating story. >> absolutely devastating. thank you so much tom. we appreciate it. we'll state with you for the latest. it you want to help go to cnn.com/impact. coming up next search for who shot two ferguson police officers. what kind of gun could have been so precise from so far away? 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i wonder if you're surprised there have been no arrests yet. >> first of all, in terms of reaction, there's a reaction in the law enforcement community. my friends who are in law enforcement still, you know, i left some 30 years ago, but at any rate a great deal of concern and a sense of what it takes so long. what i mean by that is law enforcement officers have been listening to the chants, you know "kill the cops" on social media. they're surprised it took this long. and so they're very saddened but they're not surprised. then the community, obviously within i have a lot of contacts in the community not law enforcement. there left side a great deal of concern about the dangers officers face. the community is largely rallying around the officers. >> let me ask you this so many of the protesters have been peaceful protesters. we've heard a lot of them including the family of mike brown come out and condemn this violent act calling it heinous. this shouldn't happen. so -- a lot of protesters say, look the shots didn't come from within our ranks. all though it's also important to have a strong relationship between the police force and the community, especially when you need information from the community about who may have fired the shots. >> absolutely. and in terms of the peaceful protesters versus the groups i've been calling for months the knuckle heads. there are bad actors who are mixed up along with the peaceful protesters. even during the first rioting, during august and november again there were bad actors who were doing bad things who were firing shots. we're not quite sure who they were aiming at. fortunately more officers weren't struck. being able to keep a positive vent between the police and a majority of the community is very important. and it in terms of developing leads, as you pointed out, that's vital. people generally do want to come forward. they generally do want to assist police catching violent felons particularly those after police officers. we have to remember there are some bad people out there. >> let me ask you one more question. the statistics that came out in december report shows that the number of police officers across this suncountry shot in the line of duty increased more than 50% in 2014. the officers you know in los angeles, in missouri across this country, are they scared? >> no with they're not scared. they understand it's a dangerous job but they're concerned. they're concerned about the heightened rhetoric. they're concerned about people marching through the streets of new york for example, what do we want? we want dead caps. this is stuff that needs to be condemned by everybody. people need to be proactively condemning these fools. >> good to have you. thank you for being with me. part of the investigation in ferguson involves figuring out what kind of weapon was used in the shooting. officers report seeing muzzle flashes about 125 yards away. gary went to find out how feasible would be for a pistol to be accurate. >> at this gun range in georgia, we come to find out about long distance weapon firing. [ gunshot ] and for rifles and pistol at 45 yards. the distance police in missouri believe a bullet traveled to wound two police officers. >> this ammunition is 308. >> a 308 caliber. this rifle is a remmington 700. a traditional deer hunting rifle. the target is about 410 yards away about the same presumed range as the ferguson gunshots. for a short lesson i take a shot. >> against my shoulder and here we go. [ gunfire ] i think that's a good shot. >> indeed the bullet hits the target first try. a direct hit. same results with the second shot. so there's no question such a rifle is capable of the shootings in missouri. what about a pistol? not as high powered and designed for closer range. this is a glock nine millimeter. >> typically we don't shoot handguns past 10-meters, which is about 11 yards. our instructor will aim for the range's farthest target. this is 110 yards with a pistol. the bullet barely misses the target. the pistol doesn't have a scope and isn't as accurate as the rifle. it certainly would have hit somebody standing in a group at that distance. there's no question someone up to a no good who has a pistol can fire it and had go 125 yards. >> the bullet would go that far. >> could go much farther? >> a lot much further. it could go 200, 300. the bullet is going to drop after a certain distance. >> for that reason the pistol is to be slightly tilted up to hit the intended target at that distance. tere's also the possibility that in ferguson someone could have taken a wild shot simply in the direction of the officers not intending to hit them, just hoping to scare them through the crowd. that would be a bad idea. >> there's no more important rule or no more important thing to gun ownership than gun safety. >> someone nearly everyone in ferguson, missouri would agree with. gary tuckman, cnn temple georgia. >> thank you. coming up machine gun america. that is what it's called. it is a theme park for gun lovers. even children are allowed. we'll talk about that next. also why terrorists are targeting minneapolis, minnesota trying to recruit fighters there. two months into the fit nation challenge. sanjay gupta checks in on a married couple trying to get in shape together. >> how important is this to do together? 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>> yes. >> no question? >> no question. >> how aggressively? >> aggressively. they're recruiting westerners but they're recruiting here. >> through online propaganda their efforts are working. for the somali community in minneapolis, it is a chilling replay of the recent past. >> in 2007 more than 20 somali minnesotans left here to fight with the terrorist group al shabaab. now a second wave but this time it is isis recruiting them. approximately 15 people have left minnesota to fight with isis. >> we have had a number of people travel from the twin cities we've had a number of people attempt to travel and as we speak, there are people making preparations to travel. >> it is still going on? >> it is ongoing. >> the most vulnerable are also some of the community's youngest like this arrested in february. >> what was he like? >> good kid. i mean i never pictured him -- >> authorities say 19-year-old and three companions took a bus to new york's jfk airport in november. his destination istanbul but he never made it. instead he's here in jail awaiting trial charged with attempting to provide material support to isis. >> a 19-year-old kid. >> that's who they're recruiting. 18 to 20-year-olds is the focus. that's focus of the recruiting by isis right now. >> others recruited douglas mccain who was killed fighting with isis in syria this summer. his friend troy was recruited by al shabaab. >> this is a real disney land. you need to come and join us. >> he died fighting with them in 2009. his mother spoke to cnn last year. >> i had no clue that he was going into a dangerous situation in that way. i think they were manipulated and i don't think they knew what they were fully what they were part of. >> ask people here why this is happening. some will say a feeling of isolation. disenfranchisement. others say a lack of opportunity. many just don't know. but all who we talk to say it must stop. among them a mother of six. >> every mother that, you know is constantly thinking about oh my god. this could happen to me. >> is this fight becoming even harder? >> it is a silent killer. you just don't know. you don't see it. and, boom it happens. >> and your child is gone. >> and your child is gone. >> a silent killer that took his nephew. he was recruited when he was 17. >> tell me about your nephew. >> it's the kind of nephew anyone would wish for. nice no crime, a-student, high hopes of going to harvard. >> you think your nephew was looking for a better life? >> yes. a lot of kids are looking for a better life. i'm sure 99% of -- aware of what the reality on the ground is. >> and he believes the threat from isis is even greater than that posed by al shabaab. >> what is different with isis is they're not only targeting somali community. so it's something now that we all have to work together and worry about. >> the fbi calls minnesota the most impacted by this threat. >> as a special agent in charge here what do you see that the terrorist oversees that are using this as a recruitment ground? >> that we're going to use the entire weight of the united states government prevent you from recruiting our youth to travel overseas to fight and die. >> the religious leaders want this to stop. this is not about religion. this is about terror recruiting. we're doing everything we can to turn it around. >> we have a problem. we're addressing it. that's what minnesotans do. >> a problem that now has the attention of and funding from the white house. u.s. attorney andrew lugar is spearheading the effort in minneapolis. >> if you were to boil down the solution how you're attacking this how would you describe it? >> the way the community described it to me. they wanted more community engagement by law enforcement, more mentoring through more job opportunities, afterschool programs, in-school programs intervention teams that grow out of the community working together at the early signs of radicalization radicalization. it's precisely what cartoonist mohamed akman is doing. >> you created a cartoon series basically, to try to fight isis propaganda. >> correct. the goal is to fight isis and al shabaab and boko haram. they're from the same ideology. if you go after one ideology -- and objective is to go ahead and the kids between the age of 8 and 16 and get them to look at this before they get to the extremist videos on facebook. >> you say it takes ss idea to destroy an idea. >> yes, it does. we fight it the way we're fighting it. >> but those recruited are just the tiny fraction of the somali community here. something we're reminded of at every turn. >>citizens who left war in their homeland now fighting a battle to save their children here. >> coming up one organization in minnesota is testin a program to rehabilitate some of the teens including this one that are being recruited by al shabaab and isis. it is a controversial move but can it work? 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>> our goal is to work with him very slowly and take it bit by bit. we don't really have approval to work with him on an extended period. he's awaiting sentencing. there's a lot of legal matters he's working with. >> this is not instead of jail for example. >> that's right. not yet. but what we're doing in the meantime is trying to continue our outreach in the community to expand our programs working with youth to work on the prevention side. because we know that these young people for the most part don't want to join isis. but a lot of them as i heard reporting there, get roped into this feel like they sort of have a lack of attachment to anything being disenfranchised. some will scoff at the argument and say just because you feel like that you don't join a terrorism organization. what do you say to the critics who argue how it can change someone's thinking. >> they don't feel connected. they are growing up in immigrant community which is largely -- there's a high unemployment rate. there's many more people coming from somalia all the time because the ongoing civil war there. the services that are provided to this community for education, social services housing are strapped. and so what we try to do is to find connections for these young people in their community to try to provide some basic education. something they can convict to in the community and prevent that kind of attachment that might make to something that is more violent. >> i know a lot within the somali community are working to fight that. almost everyone in the community is against. it it's a anyonetiny fraction. i want to make that clear. you have nonsomalis getting recruited by isis all over the country. average mid western kids kids on the west coast, in the north, the south, the northeast. it's happening across the boards. is there any precedent for a program like yours out there? >> a lot of the groups that we're looking at are working in europe, because they have much greater numbers of people who have gone over. it's the same philosophy. we look at what are the baseline issues in the young population and why are they feeling disconnected in their community communities and future. how can we empower them and their parents, frankly. we're trying to focus a lot of this attention on the struggles of their parents, just like u.s. attorney andy lugar was saying. this is community issue. >> let me ask you this quickly. is your goal ultimately to have this as an option instead of jail sentences for some offenders? >> well, we're not really speaking to that now. we want to focus on the prevention side. it's more cost effective economically if we focus on kids not thinking about joining isis. the recruitment efforts are strong. the community and parents are concerned about the messaging their kids are hearing. >> thank you for coming on the program. i appreciate it. good to have you on. thank you so much. we'll be back in a minute. in small business you have to work hard, know your numbers, and stay focused. i was determined to create new york city's first self-serve frozen yogurt franchise. and now you have 42 locations. the more i put into my business the more i get out of it. like 5x your rewards when you make select business purchases with your ink plus card from chase. and with ink, i choose how to redeem my points for things like cash or travel. how's the fro-yo? 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>> yes. it's a peculiar thing. but also inevitably you can be a bit more relaxed when somebody is -- the dreaded camera. >> and the man with the best job in television joins me now cnn royal correspondent max foster. congratulations on an extraordinary documentary airing tonight at 7:30 p.m. eastern. i'm interested in why prince charles is speaking now >>well i think it's been a difficult time for camilla over the years. back at the time when dianna died something like 90% of the british population in polls were against her ever becoming queen. back at the time when charles and camilla marriedyied the number was around 60%. now it's down to 35% of people in britain oppose camilla being known as queen. there's a gradual warming. he wants her to be queen. technically she'll become queen at the moment. she'll using a different title. i think he wants the tworltd get to know her. over the passage of time they are separating her from the event. >> did he say anything about the late princess dianna? >> he didn't talk about her because this was the anniversary interview about camilla. and she's not, obviously, a part of his life anymore but very much in the boy's lives. so he respects the legacy they're trying to keep alive. he doesn't want to interfere in what he sees for them is a real priority. he doesn't talk about her. he doesn't want to upset anyone around that. so he talks about camilla and he talks about his relationships. >> so i know they're coming to the united states next week i think. what are we expecting? >> well, they're going to travel to washington. they're going to meet president obama. i think that will be a highlight and they'll go to louisville kentucky. it's has a tour that has some significance. the first u.s. tour was after the wedding when they were newlyweds. at that time there was a real viciousness against camilla at that time. it will be interesting to see whether the american public warmed to her. i think prince charles sees this as a pretty momentous visit in his marriage. he won't talk about it again as i understand it. but this is his point of making she's not going anywhere. >> the one, the only time you'll hear it. max foster special later tonight on cnn. thank you so much. we appreciate it. again, this rare access to charles and camilla. a special event only right here. a theme park in orlando but it is not what you think. we're going to take you inside machine gun america. this is an attraction centered around automatic weapons. before that we're going to talk about something completely different. listen to this. all right. all of us have car problems. they're stressful and inkreent they can blow your budget. now imagine adding to that just struggling to get by. trying to make it all work. we're going to introduce you to a woman who was driven to fix this problem and she is our first cnn hero of 2015. >> i've been a delivery driver coming up on a year now. having a car problem just brings a lot of stress. my calipers are seized there's a smell of gas. i'm deathly worried about my safety. having two daughters, it just really heightened this situation. >> i was social worker for 15 years. i kept seeing people struggling with making ends meet. one car repeer can upset the entire cards. why isn't somebody doing something about this? 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what's the latest in the investigation? >> reporter: the investigation definitely is continuing here poppy. law enforcement saying they have investigators working around the clock to try to identify who was behind shooting those two police officers who have been released from the hospital though one was shot in the face and one was shot in the shoulder. but looking at who they have, they don't have anyone in custody at this point. they said they'd interviewed other people interviewed witnesses as well. just to categorize the shooting this is what the police chief from the st. louis county police department had to say. >> this is really an ambush is what it is. you can't see it coming. you don't understand it's going to happen. you're basically defenseless from the fact that it is happening to you at the time. and that is something that is very difficult to guard against when you have a group of officers standing in a large group and then you have certainly gunfire direct at them. >> it's a tragedy either way. it undermines everything that everybody's trying to do in this. it really does. now, i won't walk away from the fact that it is not beyond the realm of possibility that having all those officers standing there together and the fact that two of those officers were hit, that these officers were targeted. >> reporter: now, that $10,000 reward that is out there, they are considering increasing that number. they think that will actually help get them some leads on who was behind this shooting. late wednesday night, poppy. >> stephanie quickly before i let you go the mayor of ferguson i believe, speaking this afternoon? we're seeing so many officials step down or get fired in the town of ferguson. i wonder if he's going to address his job at all. do we know? >> reporter: he's not speaking necessarily. what he's doing is he's meeting with members of the black business community here. what we understand is that some of those business owners may actually pledge their support to the mayor. it's worth pointing out as well that last night even in the driving rain there were people out here protesting the ferguson police department there was also a small group of people who was out here and they were actually showing their support not just for the police department and specifically the police officers but also for the mayor, for james knoll saying they stand behind him. he's saying he's not going anywhere. he says if the people want to remove him there are ways they can go about that. we understand one organization is looking to see if they can go ahead and get the signatures from people of ferguson to make that happen. right now that's all in the preliminary phases is what we're hearing, poppy. >> stephanie elam live in ferguson. stephanie, thank you. wasn't to go now to milwaukee county sheriff david clark. he joins me. thank you for being with me sheriff. >> my pleasure poppy. >> first i want everyone to listen to part of what president obama said this week responding to the attacks on these two police officers. >> there was no excuse for criminal acts. and whoever fired those shots shouldn't detract from the issue. they're criminals. they need to be arrested. and then what we need to do is to make sure that like-minded, good-spirited people on both sides, law enforcement who have a terrifically tough job and people who understandably don't want to be stopped and harassed just because of their race that we're able to work together to try to come up with some good answers. >> attorney general eric holder also coming out this week after those officers were shot calling it heinous, disgusting and cowardly. sheriff, you say those responses aren't enough. why? >> well they're mixed messages. this is a very convoluted message from the president. on one hand he talks about the seriousness of the offense. where was he when he made that statement by the way? because his initial reaction to the shooting of two of st. louis's finest was through a tweet. i thought that was highly insensitive. but anyway then he drags in at the end that people don't want to be stopped by the police because of their race. i'm trying to figure out how that fits in with what happened with the shooting of two of st. louis's finest. eric holder on the other hand came out with a statement yesterday or the day before and said that they were damn punks whoever shot the police. i was wondering why he didn't have that sort of statement about mike brown, who just held up a strong arm robbery, anyway where he bullied a convenience store clerk and stole items and then went and tried to disarm a law enforcement officers. he didn't have those words for that action. >> so you asked for those comments were made the president made those comments on "jimmy kimmel live" on that program. i have to ask you. >> totally inappropriate. totally inappropriate venue for that kind of statement. >> he should have addressed it on that program at all when he was asked? >> look that's an entertainment and a semicomedy program. that's not appropriate. i don't know why -- when he talked about mike brown he had a suit on and he was in either the white house press room or in the east room when he made that comment. but he couldn't put on a suit on after two of st. louis's finest were shot and hit. took sniper fire and deliver his concerns about that incident then. the optics are horrible especially for law enforcement officers who are looking at this. and he goes on an entertainment and a comedy program. i like jimmy kimmel. but it's not the type of venue that this sort of thing should be talked about. >> sow you would have liked to see something more formal. understood. let me ask you this. police shot in the line of duty across this country rose more than 50% in 2014. that's according to the december report from the national law enforcement officer fatality report. i'm wondering if your officers there in milwaukee, officers that you know across the country, are scared when they see numbers like that. >> well not scared but hypervigilance goes up. there's a tipping point. you can't keep cops in a state of hypervigilance for a long period of time before it starts to have a physical and emotional effect. but that's what we have to do to stay alive. but that piece of data in the face of this lie, this false narrative about the deadly use of force by law enforcement officers against young black males, let's have some balance in this discussion. the environment that a law enforcement officer has to work in is extremely dangerous. we can have these discussions about both of these incidents. but this is a one-sided argument right now. it's a false narrative that cops use an inordinate amount of deadly force against young black males. >> sheriff before i let you go the doj report had two main points. the first point was that the shooting of officer -- by officer darren wilson of mike brown was a justifiable use of force. and it also found that the hands up don't shoot did not happen in that situation. secondly it found systematic racism among some in the ferguson police department. the president addressed both in those comments to jimmy kimmel. do you not believe that both should be addressed? >> i believe that the report compiled by eric holder was not objective. one of the things he also should have pointed out in there black males have a disproportionate vomit in crime and involvement in crime and violent crime. and disproportionately victimized as well at the hands of other blacks. we can have this discussion about both. >> sheriff david clarke good to have you on the program. thank you very much sir. >> thank you, poppy. joining me now here in new york from one of our new york city police commissioner bernard kerr thanks for being here. you were listening to that interview with me. any response? >> i understand the sheriff's concerns. on the president's side i think one thing has nothing to do with the other. the abuse of people and all that stuff, i get it. i understand that's been an ongoing issue now for months. but the attempted assassination of two cops? that had nothing to do with anything else. and i think it should have been handled differently. >> you think the president shouldn't have talked about doj report when responding about the officers. >> no. i think he should have focused on the two cops especially for the law enforcement community. there is 700,000 law enforcement officers in this country that's watching what's going on. they need support. they need the benefit of the doubt. they need to know that our government be it the president, state governments, local governments, are going to be out there behind them in the event they have problems. >> to be fair here every comment that i've heard, every time we've heard attorney general eric holder or president obama address the michael brown shooting and the darren wilson situation before the verdict came down from the grand jury and after has been to say -- has not been to attack law enforcement, right? they have said consistently our law enforcement officers are here to protect us. the majority of them are good upstanding citizens. do you feel like that message has not gone the across enough? >> no, it hasn't gotten across enough. and i fully agree with eric holder's statements on this circumstance. >> calling it heinous, disgusting and cowardly. >> cowardly punks and all that sore stuff. i get it. agree with it. but i think we've been in a position where we've mixed two messages two things too much that we're losing sight of reality. >> i wonder if you think some have said that they believe that the doj report and the comments about it after it came out placed a lot more emphasis on the systematic which is frankly systematic heinous racism it outlines that has happened from some in the police force in ferguson to a large amount of the community there, but that it focused so much more on that than on the situation of officer darren wilson saying there was not justifiable grounds for him to be -- that he was justified in the shooting of michael brown and that the hands up don't shoot did not take place in that situation. do you believe the doj report unfairly focused on one over the other? >> well i think one thing is much bigger. the systematic racism and all that stuff, that's a much bigger issue. >> right. >> michael brown was one incident, one event. and the reality is all of the protests and all of the civil unrest that went on as a result of michael brown be was basically based on a lie. he didn't have his hands up. he resisted arrest. he tried to take officer's guns. it was all based on a lie. the systematic stuff, if that stuff really happened and if the doj -- >> the investigation found it did happen. >> if the doj report says that that's their finding, then there are some major concerns. >> it's incredibly troubling, right? >> it should be for anyone. >> for more than half the population in ferguson is african-american. before i let you go, what do you do with the ferguson police department and the community? how do you make this situation better? >> well i think the first thing you have to do is keep the rebel rousers out, keep the race baiters out. >> freedom of speech. freedom to protest. what do you do? >> here's the problem. real community leaders have to be the ones dealing with the police department. it's those people with the police department the real community leaders, they're the ones that can make this work. when you have these outsiders come in and they create all this dissension and unrest then it's never going to heal itself. you need healing. and the only healing is going to come from the city officials, the police department and real community leaders, not the outsiders. >> bernard kerik, thank you very much. appreciate it. good to have you on the program. >> thank you. >> we'll be back in a minute. why are we so committed to keeping you connected? why combine performance with a conscience? why innovate for a future without accidents? why do any of it? why do all of it? because if it matters to you it's everything to us. the s60 sedan. from volvo. this month, get these exceptional offers on a new volvo. visit your volvo showroom for details. oh yea, that's coming down let's get some rocks, man. health can change in a minute. so cvs health is changing healthcare. making it more accessible and affordable with walk-in medical care, no appointments needed and most insurance accepted. minuteclinic. another innovation from cvs health. because health is everything. shasta darlington joins me now with incredible video we want to show you. you'll remember last week we told you about this rescue of a 14-month-old baby in a tragic car accident. she joins me now on set to talk to me about it. this is new video of what we were really dubbing this sort of this miraculous story. >> reporter: exactly. you really get the feeling from this video why we call baby lily the miracle baby. basically it shows you what it's like to be a rescue worker. because you see it from their perspective. the emotional and physical effort they go to keep this baby alive. let's watch it. >> reporter: new body cam video from one of the spanish fork officers as he rushes to the overturned car. >> what have you got? what have you got? >> reporter: you can hear their desperation as they try to flip the car. they soon discovered 25-year-old lynn jennifer grossbeck dead in the driver seat. but they do find a survivor. they pull a tiny body from the wreckage and run up the hill. >> she's definitely hyper they'rethey are -- hypeh rrthermi c. she was sub murched in the car in the spanish fork river in utah for about 14 hours. she survived hanging upside down in freezing temperatures in the upper 20s with no food or water. >> if anything had been different she might not have made it. >> reporter: brock royal was the emergency room doctor who saw lily when she was rushed in. >> you can see just how pale she is and how cold and stiff her arm is. >> reporter: four days later, baby lily playing along as her father sings "old mcdonald" in the hospital. the best reward possible for those who fought so hard to save her. >> one of the really amazing things is when the rescue workers started they couldn't feel a heartbeat. so they just kept going and going without really having any security at all that she was going to live. but i should mention we've had some good news since then. we've been in touch with the spanish fork police department. they say lily is out of the hospital. they actually some police went to visit her with her family. they say she's healthy and happy and for the time being living with her aunt and uncle. some good news has come out of this, pop question. >> the loss of her mother but a miracle, hanging upside down in that car. freezing temperatures. thank you. the garden is the story of our lives... told and retold. it's as old as our time on earth. and as new as tomorrow. you can have a yard. or slightly less. gardening isn't about where we choose to live. it's about how we choose to live. miracle-gro. life starts here. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ if you're running a business legalzoom has your back. over the last 10 years we've helped one million business owners get started. visit legalzoom today for the legal help you need to start and run your business. legalzoom. legal help is here. s. this just in. a number of american aid workers possibly exposed to the deadly ebola virus are on their way right now to the united states for monitoring. the cdc saying those people are being flown to the u.s. as we speak from africa. joining me on the phone, cnn medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. elizabeth, what do we know at this point? >> reporter: poppy, we know these ten or so folks are headed either to the nih outside of washington, d.c. or to the university of nebraska or to emory university hospital in atlanta. they will not be admitted to these institutions. instead they will be housed in hotels or similar places, and they'll stay there for the 21 days after we start counting from when they were possibly exposed. of course if they get sick they'll be admitted to the hospital. now, some of these folks will quarantine themselves and will not leave their housing. others however, will be leaving their housing, we're told. but again, none of these folks have ebola that we know of. they just at this point have been possibly exposed. and so they want to just make sure they don't get ebola so they'll be very closely monitored. >> i know looking at this cdc release, elizabeth, it says that these are people who worked alongside an american volunteer health care worker in sierra leone who did test positive for ebola. so i know it's important to remind our viewers that it is very hard to contract ebola. it's not contagious through the air, et cetera. but they're just being extremely cautious because this one person did test positive in sierra leone, an aid worker? >> reporter: right. and so what i've been told is that these ten folks had exposure to this person after he or she started to get sick. and so you can get ebola with exposure. but as you said poppy, it's not easy to get ebola. and we don't know did these people have exposure to his or her bodily fluids or were they just working or living near them? we just don't know. but they're concerned enough about them that they've flown them back to the u.s. watching them very closely and then admitting them if they do start to show symptoms. and poppy, i want to emphasize. ten is a big number. >> right. >> reporter: ten ace big number. i mean the nih, the patient currently at nih just admitted the colleague of these other folks? this person is the 11th person to be treated for ebola in this country. so ten possible new cases, that's a big number. >> just to be clear, worst case scenario here would be that those ten people somehow did contract ebola which is not likely. but we do have the facilities in this country, here in new york in maryland in nebraska right? to treat all of those people if it were needed. >> reporter: right. the facilities that these folks would be treated with are nih in maryland or emory in atlanta or the university of nebraska in nebraska. and you're absolutely right. the u.s. now does have quite a bit of experience treating people with ebola. and in all three of those institutions have a lot of experience. they have not infected anyone. there are no health care workers at those three institutions who got ebola. they're the patients for the most part survived. none of their doctors or nurses got sick. it all went as it was supposed to. >> we know that some those patients took an experimental drug called zmac. but at this point am i right in saying there still is no one proven treatment or vaccination for the ebola virus? >> reporter: correct. there's no proven vaccination. and the treatment that these other folks got who have been treated in the u.s. they were given various things. different people got different things. we're still not sure whether those drugs work. they were given those drugs, but we don't know if they survived because of those drugs or if they survived just because they got good what's called supportive care. they were well hydrated. they were well taken care of. that in and of itself could save you from ebola. >> and this reminds us of the urgency and importance in west africa where now more than 6,000 people have died from the ebola virus. many of them who do not have the care that these people are going to get if needed here in this country. thank you very much elizabeth. appreciate it. we'll bring you more on this of course as we know. also we've been tracking all day the widespread destruction in van in vanuatu after cyclone pam struck the island. >> tell me what you're saying there. >> horrible destruction here. it's just hard to describe and put into words. just so many buildings have lost their roofs. so many buildings have been damaged and the windows ripped out completely. it's just utter just total destruction. there are so many boats that sank on dry land. a scene of trees that have fallen down everywhere. power lines all over roads. there's no way to get from a to b anywhere. it's just everywhere no war, noter, no power. massive destruction. it's just incredible. >> the images that our viewers are seeing as you and i are speaking michael, if we can keep them up here are images of port villa by far the biggest city in vanuatu with most people live in huts with straw. the infrastructure is nowhere as good as we are seeing. any idea what the conditions for the people are there? >> basically channelled straight south from where we are right through the islands. i don't know if you're showing the cyclone track. but the island of vanuatu are a longer spread. we've got the first part of that intensity of the category 5 and it's ripped through here. further south what it has done we don't know. local communities down there without obviously they don't have telephone, don't have access. we have no idea about the conditions down there. you can't fly planes in. you can't get planes out. at the moment everybody is trying to clear airports so we can bring planes in to get medical aid and assistance. trying to get life back to normal and assess everything. i think there are only about six confirmed dead at the moment but that number will rise as we start to get more reports back from the islands. >> can i ask about how aid has been coming in? because only small small planes like cessnas can even fly into the main airport there. so i'm assuming a lot of it will have to come by ship and that's going to take awhile. >> you can fly 737s. and there are regular routes of 737s into the airport here. for example, i think the american military had a c 17 here last week on a different mission. you can definitely fly larger planes in. but a lot of the medical help that we need is obviously doctors that are able to fly into here. and medical workers obviously with materials and tools to rebuild houses. a lot of that will have to be shipped in but having said that, there is a reasonable supply of building materials here. but i imagine things like tarpaulins and plastic and things to cover roofs, as soon as shops open tomorrow i imagine a few shops will open. and those supplies will just be soaked up within minutes, i imagine. >> michael mcclennan, thank you very much for bringing us that first hand account of what it is like on the ground there in vanuatu right now. we appreciate it. a lot more news straight ahead. but first cnn's ones to watch. >> a scouter is someone whoulptor is someone who draws in space. >> the challenge for me is how do you move all of that power in the best way to make something in reality? 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>> well for three reasons. like you said before, aye just outraged at what's going on with isis. and secondly i'm frustrated with our leadership's very slow and very weak response. and the catalyst that ultimately motivated me i would say gripped me to launch this web site was when i started reading it was the second article where i read about a veteran going overseas to help out. and his words, why aren't more people going to help? is what really just lit a fire in me. i couldn't even sleep that night. ways working on the web site. and everything's been taking off since there. i've now had several hundred people from all over the country and three other countries, civilians and veterans wanting to go. i'm currently talking to several dozen veterans who are really serious about going. and able and willing to fund themselves over there. >> you know shaun, i understand that. but i think what is really worrisome, look what we've seen isis do to people they've taken prisoner. you're a veteran. you have these skills but you don't have the backing of the u.s. military the coalition forces. other people that might join in this might not have any of those skills are. you worried about risking lives? >> well i'm screening everyone i talk to. i'm not going to take anyone who's not experienced or qualified. let me clarify that we'll be playing more of a defensive supportive role with the locals against isis. we're not going to be running around playing rambo. >> okay. jesse, you spent time with three young men like sean who are doing this right now on the ground. they're fighting right alongside the kurds trying to help. what stood out to you most about what drives them to do this? >> well it was interesting. this meeting the three young americans, all of them were ex soldiers or ex contractors that had basically joined the peshmerga outside the city of kirkuk on the front lines with isis. what struck me was beyond anything their primary political goal is to fight isis not necessarily support the kurds, not support any particular faction. but what i also discovered was it's a wide spectrum of people that are going over to join the anti-isis fight. you have people like matthew gardner in australia and who went to join the ypg in syria and support the kurdish fight against isis in kabani. you've got a lot of permercenaries looking to make a business out of this war. then the ex american g.i.s looking to go over and do something. but i have to say that primarily that kind of decision doesn't actually seem like it's addressing the fundamental problems of the sectarian war in iraq. some of these mers narscenaries want to go over and fight with a christian element and add another element into it. others are going into a new war that created this war in the first place. >> are they worried the young men you're with about what might happen when they come home? >> the americans they spoke with were fairly reassured that they wouldn't be prosecuted when they got back. at least that's what they told me. i know from other countries in the west there have been concerns and there are issues as to what happens when they go back. but with these three americans, they were quite confident that they would be okay. >> before i let you both go sean i want to ask you, your story's been out there. it was in "usa today" as well. have the authorities, anyone from the government contacted you and said look we don't want you to go? >> no they haven't. and i don't know why they would. this is really none of their business. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. i appreciate it. go ahead, really quickly there, jesse. i'll let you respond. >> right. well i mean i think one thing a lot of these americans that want to go over and fight have to keep in mind that the problems with iraq are not with having enough fighters against isis. it's that the divisions in iraq are making the battle against isis near impossible. divisions between the shia backed militia, iraqi government and the kurds all of these are the result of the iraqi occupation in iraq. these are not things young americans going over to fight are going to be able to fix. it's got to be a political issue that's addressed and unifying people to fight isis on the ground there. >> sean i have to let you respond to that. >> tell that to the families who are being slaughtered that they don't need help. the need is obvious. but we're also going to take medical supplies. i'm talking to numerous combat medics who want to go. like i said we're playing a defensive, supportive role for these people who are just being slaughtered over there. and if people who don't see that need i just think it's crazy. >> sean i do have to say one thing. that is we have heard from the administration people with such good intentions aid workers going to syria going to iraq who have been taken captive by isis who have been beheaded. we've seen u.s. forces coalition forces go in and try to save them risking their own lives. are you worried about that at all, risking lives even the ones that volunteer in order to save you and other vets if something like this does happen? >> obviously it's dangerous. and there's risks. but it's a risk we're all willing to take. i'm not afraid of dying. >> but it risks other lives if they have to come in and try to rescue you guys. >> they won't be capturing me or my team okay? >> well how do you know? just out of concern. >> we are very well trained. >> i appreciate it very much sean. please take care. be safe. i appreciate you joining us very much. jesse, thank you as well. i do want to have our cnn intelligence and security analysts and former cia operative bob baer join me now to talk about this. with your perspective and your history in the agency bob, what do you make of what we just heard? >> well a couple of things poppy. i wouldn't be so confident about the u.s. government. there's a thing called the neutrality act which americans aren't supposed to take up arms in another country privately. and you also have the question of permits. the state department actually issues what's called an itar permit for people who want to go work in a foreign country. these guys don't have it. but i think, poppy, what i've seen is this is much more widespread than most people know. i've seen christian groups up there that have hired essentially mercenaries to protect missionaries in kurd stan. i've got ex colleagues in kurd stan helping the kurds. the problem is this is a free for all. you've got the iranians in iraq. you've got the shia death squads. you've got private groups. you've got the kurds whose intentions aren't just to beat isis but they also want to establish a state up there. it would really serve us well if we had sort of an international policy that was unified on this and got rid of the islamic state through state intervention rather than private. >> bob, what about what sean said? we are very well trained. we can do this. and tell that to the families who have lost their loved ones. you can see where he's coming from and his intentions and that he wants to help. do you worry at the same time though? >> i definitely worry. i mean last week there was a canadian special forces officer who was killed i believe that was last week was coming back in patrol in kurdistan. clearly protected by helicopters and the rest of it. the kurds mistakenly opened up fire on his unit and killed them. kurdistan is a wide open place. i spent years up there. it's not a safe place for anybody. and you've got the islamic state who can infiltrate people or overrun kurdish positions. and it would be terrible if an american were caught at this point. because the worst would come. >> bob baer thanks very much. quick break. we're back in a minute. nexpected. ha-ha! shall we dine? 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tom foreman explains. >> reporter: a new york paper is calling some republicans traitors. >> and this is serious stuff! those republicans are defending their actions. >> this is ultimately about stopping iran from getting a nuclear weapon. >> reporter: and all over d.c. critics are talk about the logan act. what on earth is the logan act? well it is a relic of history, a law that grew out of a spat between the united states and france way back in the late 1700s. cue the fife music. >> president john adams federalist party wanted war but a pennsylvania doctor named george logan traveled to france and brokered a deal to stop it. the federalists were furious and passed the logan act to make such freelance diplomacy punishable by fines and prison. and accusations of violations have appeared ever since. over richard nixon's dealings with vietnam, jesse jackson's talks with russia nancy pelosi's 2007 trip to syria, and not a single case has ever amounted to anything. still on a white house web site tens of thousands of people have signed a petition for an investigation, convinced republicans are now illegally interfering with foreign policy by sending a letter to iran's leadership. but they probably should not expect much. after all, in 2008 candidate barack obama chatted with the the iraqis. and guess what.srepublicans hollered about? yeah the logan act. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> let's bring in david gergen a former advise for four u.s. presidents. i want to begin with what we just saw from tom foreman, what logan act is. you hear secretary of state john kerry calling this letter from republicans an interference calling it unprecedented. but nancy pelosi ignored the white house, right, when she traveled to syria for talks when she was house speaker in 2007. what's your take on both sides? >> i think this is -- the logan act is just not something that's going to be invoked in this case. over 200 years nobody's ever been prosecuted. they're not going to be prosecuted here. what i do think is it enables people on the left to paint the republicans as even more far right and more dangerous than the public may already perceive. it's more political than anything else. i think what the republican letter -- the republican letter is not illegal. what it is in retrospect to even many republicans is stupid. and it has, i think, it's backfired on the republicans. and frankly, poppy, it's also going to have an impact on the elections coming up 2016 american elections. and that is this is -- iran is almost inevitably now going to be a central issue in the elections. and the republican candidate is going to be pushed hard by his own party or her own party to go to a hard line position on iran. so this is going to have ripple effects. but i don't think it's going to have any criminal investigation. >> do you think that this letter could scuttle the negotiations with the deal deadline at the end of this month? >> it may be invoked by at least one of the parties. we've seen the ayatollah, the supreme leader of iran shake his fist now about the letter and say how unreliable the americans are. but there are more serious issues right now and differences in these closing days. secretary kerry is just setting out this weekend to go back to the negotiations in europe. and there are some serious obstacles that are understood on both sides, that they haven't agreed on. it's not just the number of centrifuges but importantly now there are questions about inspections. questions about how long this agreement would last. so i think they've got some hard bargaining to do. and there's a real possibility that the negotiators themselves will be unable to reach agreement. and it's possible at the end of that when the people look back are going to say well it was the republican letter had a lot to do with it. but it's also clear there are serious substantive differences between the parties. >> right. no question the president has said no deal is better than a bad deal. i do want to get your take on the hillary clinton news conference this week. >> sure. >> her explanation for setting up her own private e-mail server while she was secretary of state and using exclusively her own e-mail address and not government e-mail. you just wrote an op ed on cnn.com about this. you said that actually is oddly related to the gop letter to iran. what do you mean? >> well in both cases i think the republicans have legitimate concerns about where the iran deal is going. i believe having worked for the clip the clip clintons back in the 90s she had legitimate concerns about the security of her e-mails. there are lots of people who would like to crack into her e-mails. i'm not terribly surprised they went to the protective service. but in both cases, both republicans and hillary herself, took the wrong action. they made mistakes in what they then did about their concerns. and if the republicans had sent their letter to the president of the united states we wouldn't have this controversy. because they sent it to the iranian leadership. in hillary's case if she had set up her private system but then linked it up immediately with the state department so that she was obeying all the protocols and understandings of how this was to be done she wouldn't have this controversy on her hands. and i just want to say one last thing. the story continues surprisingly because we now learn that what she said was that her e-mails were going into an automatically going to other people in the government. it turns out the state department had a sloppy system. they don't know what went where. they don't have the records themselves to sustain that claim. >> wow. david gergen great to have you on as always. thanks so much. stay with us. we're back. >> poppy, you're terrific. thank you. bye. ♪ ♪ i'm almost done. 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it just seems pretty big. >> reporter: poppy, indeed it is a big number. when you consider that in this country 11 people have been treated with ebola. so this is ten more who might possibly have ebola. so ten people treated with ebola here in the united states since august. most of them treated in nebraska or at the nih or at emory. and i want to be very clear with this. ebola has an incredibly high mortality rate in africa. in this country it hasn't. out of those 11 only two of them died. and those two both of their cases were caught quite late. in this country we have a very good track record of saving people with ebola. and for the most part with the glaring exception of presbyterian hospital in texas, we have an excellent track record really a perfect track record of treating people and making sure the doctors and nurses don't also get the ebola. again with the exception of presbyterian in texas. >> elizabeth cohen, our senior medical correspondent. thank you. stand by as i bring in dr. alexander garza the associate dean of public health practice in -- >> how are you? >> i'm well thank you. do you agree with elizabeth that this number ten seems like a lot? if so i'm wondering if you have any inclination as to why so many are being flown here for monitoring. >> sure. well it certainly is the largest amount of americans that have been evacuated from west africa from people that have been exposed to the virus. now, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are high risk patients. i believe or my impression of this is out of the abundance of caution that these people were evacuated. because this patient that just came over from the nih wasn't -- they were sick when they came over. and they didn't know that this patient had ebola. so they had some exposure to the virus. and so i think just out of the abundance of caution they're going to bring these people back keep an eye on them make sure that they don't get ill. and if they do that they can receive the proper treatment. >> in terms of what we know about how hard it is for someone to contract ebola, right? it's not transmitted through the air. it's bodily fluids et cetera. how confident are you that these people are just being monitored out of an abundance of caution? i know we're still waiting on a lot of details. or are you concerned that indeed these ten people may have contracted ebola? >> right. so one of the big question marks is what was their exposure status. and so the cdc had put out guidelines of course on how to take care of isolation and quarantine and all these things. but it was really dependent upon exposure status. so that's one of the things that we don't really know right now is what sort of exposure these ten people had to the index patient, the person that's being treated at nih. so if there there was exposure to bodily fluids without personal protective equipment that's one thing. if there was we were just working around this person but didn't have exposure then that's another thing. and so there's a lot of factors that go into how worried should we be about these people how close of an eye should we keep on them. and all those other things that go into developing how close of an eye we should keep on these folks. >> doctor thank you very much. we appreciate it. of course we'll keep our viewers updated as we learn more about this. again those ten americans being flown right now from sierra leone to the u.s. for monitoring for possible ebola exposure. thank you. also now, this very disturbing story coming to us from the "new york times." it details how al qaeda may have filled its pockets with money from the u.s. government handed to them by the bag full. this is what the times is reporting, that money from the cia was paid to the government of afghanistan who then used that money to pay al qaeda ransom. it is no secret that u.s. dollars have been flowing into afghanistan for years. money earmarked for government use, internal projects scholarships rebuilding after years of war. but according to this "new york times" report in 2010 afghan officials struck a deal to free an afghan diplomat being held hostage by al qaeda but the price was steep. $5 million. and senior security officials were scrambling to come up with that money. that is when according to the times, afghan officials turned those bags of cash cash from the cia, over to al qaeda and the group's then leader osama bin laden. bob baer spent most of his career with the cia in that part of the world. bob, again this is all "new york times" reporting. according to them the cia has not responded yet. we have not heard back from the cia about this. does this surprise you at all? >> poppy, no. i tell you the way this works. the white house comes to the central intelligence agency and says listen we have to support the afghan government karzai in particular. >> right. >> and the cia says, okay, we will. whatever amount of money you want it's appropriated by congress. and the cia also informs the white house there's no way we can keep track of this money. karzai can spend it any way he wants. he can go into the drug business he can pay ransom he can give the money to al qaeda, he can do anything he wants. that is very clear to the white house. and the white house inevitably i've seen this over and over again over the years, says do it we need to support this guy, prop it up. yes, we will never get accountings from them. and so that this money, $5 million, ended up with al qaeda and essentially supported it for a good period of time does not surprise me. this is the problem with covert action. it's neither covert nor action. and the money always gets misspent in one way or another. it's not like the cia will be surprised by this. just the unfortunate way things work in that part of the world. >> well you have to weigh the benefits and the risks, right? so that's clearly the calculation that is done here. the "new york times" article even outlines. look unforeseen and not something that the cia would want to happen to have this money go into the hands of terrorists. but at the same time knowing that they needed to prop up and assist the government there. should this shedding light on something like this change at all the way things are done on this front? >> poppy, it will never change it. this is a messy part of the world, especially afghanistan, where corruption is sort of cheerful and open there. and when we invaded in october 2001 we went in with good intentions. at the same time we all knew that this was afghanistan is a mess and there was no way to control it. and we've been in there before in the 80s. same way with pakistan. and go right across the middle east including iraq now. and you just can't control the money. and in no sense should the cia be blamed for sloppy accounting. i've just been in the middle east things before. and i've told the white house myself that we can't control this money. yes, we will spend it if you want us to. but where it ends up we can't tell you. >> all right. bob baer thanks very much for that analysis. we appreciate it. we do hear back from the cia on that we will let you know. coming up new information about u.s. policies. we were just talking about u.s. policy in afghanistan. this concerns the number of troops there. president obama may be rethinking his plan for a steep drawdown of troops by the end of this year. we'll have a live report from the white house next. the lexus command performance sales event has begun. command track-tested precision with the fastest-growing automotive luxury brand on the road. including the exhilarating is. powerful gs. and first-ever rc coupe. with more new models than ever there's never been a better time to experience lexus performance. during the command performance sales event. get great offers on our most dynamic models. now through march 31st. see your lexus dealer. ♪ is it the insightful strategies and analytical capabilities that make edward jones one of the biggest financial services firms in the country? 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>> reporter: poppy, this is coming at the request of afghan president ganni. he and prose talked earlier this week via teleconference. there are now 10,000 u.s. troops there and the plan has been to reduce it to a 5500 at the end of the year. the secretary of defense said he may advise the president to review the drawdown because it may not be appropriate for u.s. forces to step back yet and the u.s. government is enjoying better relations with the new afghani government. according to general john campbell the commanding of u.s. forces in afghanistan, the senior administration official says that he has developed recommendations to enhance the training advising and assisting of the afghan national security forces the maintenance of appropriate counterterrorism capabilities and ways to manage the retrograde in a way that prioritizing force protection for our troops. these discussions remain ongoing and no decisions have yet been made." but poppy generally when the administration begins to contemplate a move like this they will float it fwirs this kind of trial balloon and get the initial scuttle out of the way before an official announcement is made. >> here's the thing i'm wondering, erin. to the president this administration has come under a lot of criticism by some who have seen isis expand in iraq and have said this wouldn't be happening if more u.s. troops had stayed. the administration does not agree with that. but do you think this is at all a response to that? >> reporter: poppy, i think that is certainly the case. as we have been seeing lawmakers debate this for the past several months they're saying this very thing, that they don't want to see conditions happen like it happened in afghanistan and in iraq. so i think that's certainly weighing into this decision. >> all right, erin mcpike at the white house for us. thank you, erin. james williams joins me now, a retired u.s. major general. he commanded a marine combat division in iraq. general williams your reaction to this headline that the administration may not reduce troops from 10,000 to 5500 on the timeline that was expected. is that right move change strategy here? >> absolutely. poppy, i think this is a very wise decision on the administration's part. i think with the advent of ash carter as the new secretary of defense, with the assessment of general campbell and probably with general austin the commander of central command, it made an assessment. plus the request from the president of afghanistan, to have this delay probably makes great sense. i mean ultimately you're dealing with a government that is not very strong. you're still trying to develop the forces to shore up what they need to do internally. and between all the tribal issues that you typically have in this region it's very important that we create some level of stability. i mean let's face it. if we don't stabilize afghanistan, the potential for afghanistan to devolve and become something like syria and iraq is becoming to a degree what the isil challenge, that i think is part of the hopefully the wisdom of this decision. >> i just wonder if you think that it should be floated publicly like this as erin just said for sort of to take the temperature of public and official reaction to a move like this? i mean shouldn't this be a decision that is decided by the administration by the generals on the ground? >> oh, absolutely. and i think part of this is a political decision. but ultimately the decision being political in its nature requires sort of an analysis by what everybody thinks whether it's in congress whether our allies in europe as well as our allies in the middle east. i think without a doubt this is a good moral decision in terms of judgment stabilizing the force, leaving the troops there. they're in a training and advising role which is a good role at this point. but you also have to protect the troops that are there. i mean otherwise we would be remiss in our responsibilities to do so. >> so here's the thing. what do you say to the critics that say for how long? this cannot be endless. we've seen others fail in afghanistan over decades. how long can we keep this up? what do you say to them? >> well poppy, it's actually centuries. we've had six empires go through the region. and the question is how long do we want to stay in how much money do we want to burn? i think that's a legitimate question. but a lot of that depends on the vision of the politicians. certainly the generals know what has to be done. and ultimately it's up to congress since congress maintains and supports the military financially to ensure that whatever we're going to do is meaningful not only in the region but for our national security but also for the stability of our allies in the region. >> general williams thank you for your service to this country. thank you for joining me to talk about this headline just into us here at cnn. >> my pleasure. thank you. unrest continues in ferguson. this is still a town that is on the edge. and a manhunt is continuing for whoever shot two police officers on wednesday night. we'll talk about that. also though, coming up. when you look at exercising we all have to do it. but maybe doing it with your partner, that might just be the motivation that you need to get fit. here's our dr. sanjay gupta. >> reporter: how important is this to do together? 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(announcer) built to be there for your family. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. in ferguson missouri police are working around the clock, hoping to identify who shot two of their own officers during a wednesday night protest. reward for any information, that amount now sits at $10,000. that number could grow as more people donate. investigators say so far they have come up short in this manhunt. they are pursuing several leads, though. also this hour mayor james knolls meeting with black business owners right in ferguson. this a day after he says he will not be stepping down. let's discuss joining me now former new york city police commissioner bernard kerik and fbi assistant director and law enforcement analyst tom fuentes. bernard to you first, when you look at this a lot of people are saying how could a shot go that far that accurately to these officers. do you think this was well planned, executed or moran com spur of the moment? >> i think it's premature to tell whether it's random or spur of the moment. it was 125 yards, they're estimating. according to the initial information, the rounds fired were out of a handgun. that's a football field and a quarter. >> right. >> that's a long way. but they had a group of officers all combined in one area. >> so you're saying maybe not to hit one specific or two specific officers but to hit officers in general. >> their intent was to hit officers. >> police. >> hit police. >> tom fuentes, part of this investigation what kind of gun was used. you walked the scene. you were in ferguson yesterday. what's your take? >> my take is bernie is exactly right, that police officers don't worry about the bullet with their name on it they worry about the thousands that are addressed to whom it may concern. and that's probably what you have here. in talking to the local reporter and others that were at scene, they said that shortly before the shooting happened the police cleared the protesters off the the street and they were moved across the street to two separate parking lots. from the top of the hill when you look down you see that whoever shot had a clear shot at the police. there would have been no protesters in the way. so it didn't require too much elevation to be shooting straight at the police. >> bernard, you say looking at this you think president obama should have offered more support to law enforcement right after this happened. what would you have liked to have seen? >> well i just think in the aftermath of eric garner in the aftermath of michael brown, the president came out directly pertaining to those incidents. in this case it wasn't the case. and he's basically involved already. because he involved -- it's a national level thing that got involved in a local community. i just think the law enforcement community in general across the country has to know that they have the support of the president, they have the support of the state leaders and the local leaders. >> you did hear attorney general -- first of all the president did condemn this immediately. >> absolutely. >> on those comments on jimmy kimmel this week. eric holder attorney general calling it heinous, damn punks whoever did this. >> he's right. >> you would have liked something more formal from the president, possibly at the white house just making very clear? >> i don't think it's just me. i think it's across the board. the law enforcement community in general. they have to be supported. they have to feel supported. in many cases i don't think that's the case. >> tom, what is your take? do you have an opinion on that front? >> no i agree with that. i'd like to add that there's been no real analysis given to the report that exonerates officer wilson. and i think that's a huge tragedy. we had that story go out hands up don't shoot. all these witnesses were going to the media and saying they saw him trying to surrender. and a meticulous extensive, diligent investigation by the fbi determined that every one of those witnesses recanted their story or said they didn't even see it at all and more or less made that up. and later when they were under oath it turns out and on page eight of that report if you read it it says there were no credible witnesses that the surrender motion was ever happened. and then in turn it said there are numerous credible witnesses that said that michael brown was going towards officer wilson on the street when wilson made his final defensive shot that resulted in the killing of michael brown. now, there's been no coverage on that. and by the attorney general koe mingling commingling the racist report about the practices of ferguson and combining that at the same time the report on darren wilson basically got brushed off and blown over. and i think that's a real tragedy here. because what happened is that narrative hands up don't shoot michael brown was murdered by the police officer, justice means wilson needs to be in handcuffs and go to prison. that's all based on a false narrative that never happened. and the attorney general himself says that the report on officer wilson is correct and people should accept that that all of the things that were previously reported about him murdering michael brown were not true and didn't happen. >> and that report also as you said right at the same time the doj report outlined systematic racism within some in the ferguson police department as well. >> that's right. when you go back and look at this all those protests so-called peaceful protests that led into damage and devastation and chaos and gunfire was based on a lie. >> well the protests were also driven by what the doj found to be horrendous racist actions by some in the police department. >> but that's not what started it. >> let's not forget it. >> that's not what started. it's a piece of >> it you know a lot of the protesters most were peaceful many of them saying look we're not just protesting this shooting we're also protesting what we've been living under. so understood on both fronts. i wish we had a lot more time to discuss it. understood that has not been the headline that has been coming as tom fuentes just pointed out from the doj report. thank you both gentlemen. we've got to go. back in a moment. >> thank you, poppy. flo: hey, big guy. i heard you lost a close one today. look, jamie, maybe we weren't the lowest rate this time. but when you show people their progressive direct rate and our competitors' rates you can't win them all. the important part is, you helped them save. thanks, flo. okay, let's go get you an ice cream cone, champ. with sprinkles? sprinkles are for winners. i understand. two hours from now on cnn an exclusive look into the life of britain's royal family. prince charles opening up about his marriage to camilla and how she has really been defined by the public. >> you can imagine it is a real challenge. but she's i think been brilliant in the way she's tackled these things. >> well our royal correspondent max foster got this special exclusive access to charles and camilla at their home. he joins me now from london to talk about it. it is a fascinating report. and they really never speak. so i'm interested in why they chose to speak to the media now. >> reporter: i think it's been ten years since the marriage. and when they did get married camilla was incredibly unpopular. i think particularly actually in the united states. they're sort of aware of that. and they're heading to the u.s. next week. she's up against diana. she was the other woman against diana. she broke up that marriage diana said. so so many people looked up to diana as the biggest star in the world. but over the last ten years, camilla has really sort of tried to just be herself. and actually when you meet her she's very charming very charismatic. doesn't always come across on tv. i think the strategy has been to allow her to get on with the things she enjoys doing. people get to know her. they get to like her. and actually british people according to polls, are very much warmed towards her. it will be interesting to see whether americans feel the same way. >> i know that he also spoke about being a grandparent. >> reporter: he did a bit. he's very excited about the imminent arrival of another grandchild. grandchild number two after prince george of course. he enjoys getting on his knees and sort of getting down with young kids. he likes having them around he said. there's been some reporting here that he doesn't see enough of prince george. and the middletons see a lot of prince george. when i spoke to him there's no sense of that at all. they seem very close. >> and very quickly before i let you go next week they'll be here in the united states? >> reporter: they will be. they'll be there from tuesday starting off in washington, d.c. at the white house meeting president obama. very busy four days. and are going to go to kentucky as well. >> sounds like a good trip. max foster thank you very much. you're not going to want to miss max's special later tonight, special rare access to charles and camilla. 7:30 eastern right here only on cnn. quick break. we're back in a moment. your eyes depend on a unique set of nutrients. that's why there's ocuvite. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula that's just not found in any leading multivitamin. help protect your eye health with ocuvite. police in ferguson missouri have raised the reward money for any information leading to the arrest of whoever shot two police officers. it now sits at $10,000, and investigators are following up on what they describe as several leads in this case. meanwhile, the mayor of ferguson one of the only city officials still at his post he has said he will not be stepping down. let's talk about all of this with cnn political commentators ben ferguson and mark lamont hill. guys thank you for joining me. i appreciate it. in the wake of the department of justice report the ferguson police chief, city manager, top court clerk, two police officers out. and yet you have these two officers attacked. they were attempting to murder these officers overnight on wednesday. and i wonder ben, what your reaction is whether the feds should do more to step in here. >> i think they have to now especially. because there are many people involved now that they want dead police officers. this was an assassination attempt. they didn't care which officer that they killed. they didn't care if they were on the police force in ferguson or from surrounding areas helping out. and i think the federal government should step in here in a major way to help protect those. i also think the amount of money that they've raised for tips and leads should be much higher. when you have two police officers i'm sure they wish there would have been more that would have been hit. i wish this amount of money would be much higher. the federal government should step in here and put in a serious amount of change so that anyone that knows about where this shooter is or shooters will immediately give them up. that's something that the police should know that the government is going to have their back on. >> so i want you both to listen to part of what president obama said after the shooting. it was during his appearance on jimmy kimmel thrive"jimmy kimmel live" this week. listen. >> what had been happening in ferguson was oppressive and objectionable and was worthy of protest. but there was no excuse for criminal acts. and whoever fired those shots shouldn't detract from the issue, they're criminals. they need to be arrested. and then what we need to do is to make sure that like-minded, good-spirited people on both sides, law enforcement who have a terrifically tough job, and people who understandably don't want to be stopped and harassed just because of their race that we're able to work together to try to come up with some good answers. >> marc i've had some guests on this show tonight say look that was not the right place for the president to address it. they wanted to see a more formal setting, possibly the white house. and also say he shouldn't have also in that answer talked about the findings of the doj report that found horrific racism among some in that police department in ferguson. do you think that he should have simply spoken about the fact that this is a heinous attack on two police officers? >> no. i think the president had a right to speak about and a responsibility in fact to speak about all of those things. the two officers being shot doesn't take away from the fact that a considerable set of events has happened in ferguson before the police officers were shot that also is worthy of our investigation. and also demands justice. and if we just focus on those two shooters we actually play into the hands of those two shooters right? we'd only be talking about them instead of the extraordinary amount of work the extraordinary amount of effort the extraordinary amount of principled protests and righteous rage that has come out of ferguson. and lastly i find it incredibly fascinating when people want the president to talk. when michael brown was shot in ferguson people said the president should stay out until we have an investigation, until we have answers, more information. all of a sudden when the police officers are shot we want president obama to speak out and say something. we want to get into the minds of the shooters and what their intentions were even though we don't know anything yet. this was an awful shooting. it shouldn't have happened. the president has a responsibility to speak to both of them. >> the reason why people had a problem when it comes out about michael brown is because he's speaking on behalf and giving into this idea that the police officer automatically did something wrong. giving into this idea that -- >> he never said that. >> let me finish. when it actually did not happen. >> that's not true though. >> no. no. this is the point. the principal point is this. the president anytime that there is something involved in the local community that deals with race and he sees an opportunity to jump in there, he does it. but he's timid and calm and also gives to the people that are going after these police officers we know what happened. you had police officers that were targeted to be assassinated. that is when the president should speak out and should say that that is a problem instantly. >> ben, why do you call it timid? >> i just want to know why ben you call it a timid and calm response. the president condemned what happened to the officers. attorney general eric holder called it heinous, called them damn punks. >> i liked eric holder's approach it was bold and blunt. when the president is also talking about the report in ferguson at the same time i don't think you mix the two. i think the president should be able to come out and be very angry when a police officer is -- the attempted assassination of a police officer. and there shouldn't be any issues about well, also the report said this. you don't assassinate police officers in america. >> the president did before those remarks tweet exactly that condemning this right away. >> that's what i don't understand. i don't know what ben wants to hear from the president and when he wants to hear it. whatever he hears the opposite seems to come into his brain here. first of all, ben says the president essentially said what the police officers did in ferguson was wrong. there is not one piece of evidence there's not one transcript not one sound bite there's not one news clip there's not one presser. there's nothing where the president said that what the police officers did in ferguson was wrong. hey, i wish he had said something more stern. but he said nothing. let me finish ben. [ overlapping speakers ] >> the attorney general of the united states of america takes the cues from the white house to go out there and investigate to see if race was involved hand up don't shoot never happened. >> ben, investigating hands up don't shoot with eric holder is different than saying the president stood up and said that the officers did something wrong. hi didn't say that. that's simply factually untrue. you also said that the president sat there and somehow didn't say anything about against the shooters. again he tweeted it out, he spoke on national television about it. again it's untrue. [ overlapping speakers ] >> guys stay with me. i'm going to cut you off here. stay with me. guys stay with me. quick break. on the other side we're going to talk about another very important story that unfolded this week fraternity members expelled after a recording shows them saying disgusting racist things. we'll talk about it next. we live in a pick and choose world. choose choose choose. but at bedtime? ...why settle for this? enter the sleep number bed. designed to let couples sleep together in individualized comfort. sleepiq technology tells you how well you slept and what adjustments you can make. you like the bed soft. he's more hardcore. so your sleep goes from good to great to wow! now we can all choose amazing sleep, only at a sleep number store. right now, you can save $600 on the number one-rated i8 bed. know better sleep with sleep number. a nine-second video anonymously sent to the student newspaper. yeah. it is horrific. you can't even believe this happened right? in the days to follow the story has snowballed to a story about racism free speech in this country. two sigma alpha epsilon members at the university of oklahoma have been expelled over the video. investigators are looking into other chapters as well. on friday the oklahoma chapter retained high-profile attorney steven jones. he is best known for defending oklahoma city bomber timothy mcveigh. joining me again, cnn political commentators ben ferguson and mark lamont hill. ben, when you look at this o.u. president david bourn took swift action saying they have no place at this university ever. now you see the fraternity hiring a high-profile attorney. what does that say to you about zero-tolerance policy and what sort of argument do you think could be made on their behalf if indeed, that's the route they're going? all we know is he's been retain. >> first of all it shows how tone deaf the alumni and the fraternity members that are a part of this are. you don't go hire an attorney in my opinion where he's known for defending timothy mcveigh which is the oklahoma city bomber when you're in oklahoma. first of all, it just shows you have no taste or class by doing that. second of all, you have to know just to walk away and let things calm down a little bit instead of acting like there's some injustice done against you. if you kicked everybody out of school on that bus, by all means grab an attorney at that point because you can't say everyone on that bus is doing something wrong. but they only kicked out two students. i think the president of the university made it clear he was going to do an investigation and those that were leading this and maybe others and he took swift action and should be applauded for it. >> i think it's interesting, right, because this video somehow got from that bus into the hands of the newspaper. someone on that bus wanted this to get out there. mark what's your take? >> every once in a while, ben's right. i think the president did the right thing. and i think reason he didn't expel all the students is because you couldn't see everyone's mouth moving on the bus. some kid could conceivably, plausibly say i didn't want to do it i was the kid who submitted the tape. but honestly i think everyone on that bus who did the chanting should be involved in this. i'm aware of the first amendment issues attached and i tepally try to protect those, but on college campuses public universities there is a right to go to school without having a hostile environment and without feeling safe. >> we heard from some of the student leaders there in a group called unheard saying we've been dealing with racism before this. this is not the first time. my team was just telling me you were both in fraternities. and, you know, when things like this happen it is often -- people can be swift to paint entire organizations with, you know one brush. do you agree, ben? >> yeah absolutely. when i came back in a fraternity that i was in they'd been kicked off campus five years before and they changed -- we changed the entire culture, and that was part -- we were drastically different. but they made it clear when there was a hazing issue five years before they were not going to let our fraternity back on campus until anyone that could be around it had graduated or was long gone from the university. and i think that's what the o.u. president was trying to do at the bare minimum. and i think that's a step in the right direction because you have to have everyone around this group that was there completely gone from that university before you can even think about letting them back on. >> mark before we go quickly, what do you do about the bigger problem, some of those students at o.u. said this isn't the first time we've been dealing with racracism? >> there's the point. we don't want to make it seem like sae are outliers or this chant was. we have to talk about the racism on college campuses, the micro and macro aggressions stumts have to deal with. this is a bad circumstance. and the hole campus has to come together. we can't feel bad about ourselves. >> thank you, gentlemen, both. important discussions. more news ahead. the lexus command performance sales event has begun. command track-tested precision with the fastest-growing automotive luxury brand on the road. including the exhilarating is. powerful gs. and first-ever rc coupe. with more new models than ever there's never been a better time to experience lexus performance. during the command performance sales event. get great offers on our most dynamic models. now through march 31st. see your lexus dealer. 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VietnamRepublic-ofIstanbulTurkeyPresbyterian-hospitalPennsylvaniaUnited-statesVanuatuAustraliaMinnesotaSyriaRussia >> stole a point from me. you're a thief too. >> naomi osaka, quantum leap, u.s. open champion. do you have the results of our poll? it is henry going skydiving? >> 92% of america says yes. >> i'm going to have an even better time when ed and i go skydiving. ♪ ♪ there was some uncertainty as to whrorpt ode woul to whethd follow through. but you did. >> of the two people on this couch, ed steps up. >> i want to apologize in advance for the toxic masculinity on the couch. clearly on the other side, lacking. what happened? >> i had plans. you can't say i'm going skydiving tomorrow when you got plans. i got kids and a lot of things on the calendar. >> you are the military guy and ed and i were sitting in the plane, the plane was this big and we're terrified. and the one guy who could talk us through this is not here. >> he assured you a little bit. >> he did. >> i lost the field goal competition. i had a. >> you lost because the paul tilted up in favor of pete. >> there we go. that was good form. >> there you go. >> there were say lt of people on the sidelines saying that your ball, it was tilted upwards. you had an advantage. i feel like you won the battle and i won the war. jedidiah and i, we got suited up. >> it was quite a harness. >> you're going to confiscate the trophy. >> a little gun show. >> that's me leaning back taking direction well out of fear of what was going to happen. >> we're going toa to have foote of this on the show later. >> we are. >> there's another trophy out there. i've seen this one. we'll let you vote friends@foxnews.com. >>. the guy who won the quomp tition on the show or the guy who finally jumped out of the show. >> i'm going to have to keep the peace here. >> there's a bigger trophy at stake in november. the midterm elections. the president is making his case. he was in montana. pete was there to interview him. there's a senate battle, a lot of gubernatorial battles that the president has gotten involved in and you have former president barack obama raising the stakes, giving a blistering speech on friday attacking mr. trump repeatedly. mentioning himself more than 100 times. he was in anaheim yesterday, not mentioning the president by name but still on the attack. >> he's in anaheim helping a number of house democrat candidates. his whole effort -- i think it says #takebackthehouse. his goal is to bring the democrats back to power in the house and we know what they want do if they have that power. this is what former prawsm saidt obama said yesterday alluding to president trump. >> when you look at the arc of american his, there's always been a push and pull between those who want to go forward and those who want to look back, between those who want to divide and those who are seeking to bring people together, between those who promote politics of hope and those who exploit the politics of fear. >> it's always tempting for politicians, for their own gain and for people in power to try to see if they can divide people, scapegoat folks, turn them on each other. it's a consequential moment in our history. and the fact is that if we don't step up things can get worse in two months. we have a chance to restore some sanity in our politics. >> trump wasn't kidding when he said it was putting him to sleep, honestly. this is insanity. i feel like i've seen the speech 75 times already. he's acting like he's on the campaign trail again and he talks about how the democrats are the party of optimism compared to republicans. and in the same breath says maybe our kids won't have as bright a future if we don't step up. if we don't step up things are going to get worse. you're going doom and gloom. it's ridiculous. >> sit toward socialis socialisa smaller government? i don't think so. >> bigger government. >> bigger government. >> it is towards a smaller government. >> smaller military is what i meant, bigger government. things could get worse. we could go back to the obama years where we had a terrible recovery and a terrible economy, jobs were not coming back to america, isis was on the revival, signed a terrible iran deal, be benghazi not a conspiry theory. obama talked about that. we've been to when it was worse and that's why we rejected president obama and went with president trump. >> there's a long list of accomplishments from this president that clearly former president obama doesn't want to talk about. look at this list. we've got it on the wall. part of the reason he doesn't want to talk about it, it would bed admitting defeat for former president obama that the current president is ripping apart his accomplishments piece by piece, like the iran deal. >> national security. >> look at the jobs, unemployment rate, folks going back to work, wages rising, unemployment at lows. these are things that the democrats claimed as their mantle. president trump says if you derg late and raise taxes, companies want to be in america. president obama said the jobs are gone, they've never coming back. the economy will always be slow. >> manufacturing jobs are coming back. we saw president trump had a little humor. >> he's sitting at the podium saying things were so great during the obama years. >> he's relying on the media to back him up. it makes americans out to be dumb. americans were sitting there strug thring with their health costs, struggling because the taxes were too high. so real life speaks greater than these speeches and people, we're struggling and that's why they rejected the agenda. no matter how many good speeches you're going to get it wasn't matter. >> this led to president trump saying he was literally tired. vice president mike pence in on exclusive with chris wallace takes it a step further saying it's not that he's falling asleep, it's a tired argument. >> very disappointing to see barack obama with the tradition of former presidents and become so political and roll out the same tired arguments that he and liberals have made over the last eight years. the truth is the american people in between rejected the policy and direction of barack obama when they elected president donald trump. >> that's it. and tha that's why obama is frustrated and he's going the try to make it a former president obama-president trump showdown. >> that's 100%. we're turning now to your headlines. we begin with extreme weather. the east coast is on high alert as tropical form florence is gaining strength in the atlantic. the storm could potentially hit as a high category hurricane in the coming days. russia and syria launch violent air tricks killing four people, including children. the forces targeting the rebel-held territory with more than 60 air raids accordin. the bombs come after president trump warmed that attacking would be a quote great mistake. north korea staging a military parade overnight without its nuclear missiles. marching soldiers, colored balloons and flowers marking the country's 70th anniversary. experts believe that north korea cut out the nuclear missile to show president trump's its commitment to denuclearize. north korea is known frs boasting his powerful weapons during military celebrations. >> i'll take this one. an upset in college football as arizona state upsets michigan state on a last-second field goal win in a top 20 showdown. stanford held off cal and georgia routing south carolina 41-17. what didn't make the headlines are sean romais the florida gatn last night. >> they went down against kentucky. >> and i know we've got a lot of florida fans. sorry about that. a big outrage here in new york at the u.s. open tournament. i mentioned last weekend i was there to see serena williams beat her sister venus williams. she was headed, a lot of people expected, towards another grand slam title. i think it would have been her 24th. but nig naomi osaka wins her fit grand slam title under some controversy. a big meltdown by serena. she was upset with the umpire who called her out for coaching. broke the rules. base which there were hand signals going back and forth between serena and her coach sitting there. my understanding is this happens a lot. you can't walk on to the court and literally coach them so you come up with a hand signal system. move to the forecourt, move this way. hire's what's happening. you're not supposed to do it. here's the outburst. >> cost her a game penalty. >> say you're sorry. you stole a point from me. you're a thief too. are you kidding me? because i said you're a thief because you stole a point from me. but i'm not a cheater. >i don't cheat to win, i would rather lose. i've never cheated. you owe me an apology. there are men out here that do a lot worse. and i'm the one, you're going to take it away from me? that is not right. and i n i know you can't admit t but i know you know it's not right. i know you can't change it but it's not right. >> the american audience overwhelmingly on her side but she really went after the umpire saying it was sexism that was working against her. >> she had called him a thief saying there's guys that play sports that say a lot worse things than that. i'm cure use as to what the viewers think too. do guys get away with more. was she taking issue because she was a woman standing up for herself. >> in twine she went after an umpire saying i swear to god, i'll take the bleeping ball and shove it down your bleeping throat. >> a tough woman. >> she's tough as nails, you got to give her that. but if you're at the top of your game, you're a champion, man, woman, whatever, you've got to show -- when she was talk about her daughter, you've got to show kids that you're going to be a good loser sometimes and you're going to accept defeat. and what was really heartbreaking that we didn't show is osaka wins her first title. she starteds crying. >> she was getting booed. i felt the worst for her. >> this was supposed to be a great moment for her. also a young woman who's doing well and all of the sudden she's crying. >> two fierce ge competitors. colin kaepernick is in the spotlight with his new ad at the nfl gets ready for the first sunday of the season. michigan senate candidate onjames here to weigjohnjames he next. . the november midterms are fast approaching and up michigan, our next guest, retired army combat veteran and businessman is hoping to shake up the political establishment, debbie salvestablishment.john j. an exciting race you're in. your b biois biossm is face nat. you may notice that a businessman just got elected a president. that's a key asset. why are you a different kind of politician. i feel like this experience is pivotal for people to know about. >> people don't care about the breaking news of the day. they care about their situation, their economic insecurity. they care about having a brighter future for their children. they care about electing somebody who has the experience, understanding the toughest of situations and succeeding in getting results. and my experience if combat, working and making life and death decisions in split decisions and bringing my people back safely, understanding how to keep americans safe is what we want. but also in terms of business, understanding what it's like to grow jobs and bring economic opportunity, understanding that we need to keep the economy growing, keep making sure that the unemployment rate is low and continue to increase everybody's opportunity to have the american dream. that's what we need more of in the u.s. senate. >> you've got some big backer, the vice president is supporting you actively and the president came out tweeting this after your primary win saying, congratulations to a future star of the republican party. a big and bold victory tonight in the great state of michigan, the first of many. noft can't come fast enough. i'm sure you feel that way. have you seen the polls closing? what's the race looking like? >> first of all, i'm not star. i'm just a servant. you understand this too. we both stood up and fought for our country. i want to fight for the state like i fought more my company. we have stavanow, we's been in the u.s. senate for 18 years and only gotten five bills into law. and after that she's gotten $4 million in that time frame in salary. that's not good enough for the people of the state of michigan. they want people who's not going to play left versus right, black versus white. it's all about red, white and blue. the polls have gone down and the momentum is continuing. we're excited about the m momenm that we have. we have a chance to flip the script. we have a chance to broaden the back of the elephant to include mmillennials and minorities. >> i have to ask you about colin kaepernick and how you feel about him being the face of nike want very controversial. how deuferl abou do you feel ab? >> as far as colin kaepernick is concerned, i disagree with the method of protest. but i will defend to my death his first amendment rights and the ability of all americans to protest. as far as nike is concerned, it seems a little bit like this johnny come lately. it seems a little bit like where were you two years ago. it's one of those things where they're profiting from protest. it seems like -- they made $43 million in the first day of the ad. if they take that $43 million and put it back in the communities, put anytime the naibtds that are buying your products, give it to people to make sure we can make the communities better. how much of the $43 million is going back to the people who need it. the republican party is the original social justice party. the par i of emancipation. the party of is suffrage. i don't have a black or white message. i'm not about divisiveness. i fought for this country, all americans and i'm going to fight for all americans when i get to washington because i love this country. >> the michigan senate race is going to be one to watch for sure. john james, thanks a lot. >> thank you for your service. still ahead, he was at the base of the towers when the second plane hit on 9/11 and right by the side of america's mayor, rudy giuliani and the days after. with the 17th an verse we just days away, former nypd commissioner bernard kerr rhett is here to share his thoughts. could kanye west soon be in the west wing in a new tweet that has everyone talking this morning. this wi-fi is fast. i know! i know! i know! i know! when did brian move back in? brian's back? he doesn't get my room. he's only going to be here for like a week. like a month, tops. oh boy. wi-fi fast enough for the whole family is simple, easy, awesome. in many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40's. a couple of quick headlines for you. the white house pledging support for venezuelan democracy after reports of secret meeting to overthrow the current regime. a national security council spokesman saying in part u.s. policy preference for a peaceful return to democracy in ven venea remains unchanged. the president is firing back at apple over tariffs. the president tweeting in part, there's an easy solution, make your product in the united states instead of china. sounds good to me. this coming after the tech giant warned that billions of dollars in tariffs would affect their prices. thanks, pete. the nation is set to mark the tragedy of 9/11 17 years ago this month, just in a few days from now. but to honor the extraordinary bravery and american spirit displayed on that day. our next guest had been commissioner of the niepped fdnt over a year when the city was attacked. >> there were a number of people taken to the hospital. >> can people be heard in the rubble? >> i can't get into it right now. >> in the days that followed he led the nypd through the aftermath. here to share his reflections and he's got a surprise 17 years later, former police commissioner bernie carrick and he's authored the new book "the grave beyond the graif grave ." you shared with me a memo you won't that i don't think the president has seen. and you would do a weekly report every thursday. 9/11 would throw things off. you would do a weekly memo about how many people had been arrested, a normal week. this one on september 27th starts, on tuesday september 1 is, at 8:48 a.m. and again at 9:03 a.m., to passenger occupied boeing airlines pie lited as unidentified terrorists were intentionally flown into the north and south towers of the world trade center. was struck by the opening line. for children who don't know what happened on that day, people who are already starting to forget, the simplicity of what you wrote there is striking. >> well, i think the report is historic, number one. and number two, it outlines the magnitude of the efforts that we went through in new york city. and i think there's one thing that the american public, they haven't grasped yet, and that is the first responders of new york city, the fire department, the police department, the port authority police, the nypd, they affected the greatest rescue mission in the history of this country taking 20 to 25,000 people out of the buildings and the surrounding area. but more importantly a million people out of man hat intoon the four boroughs almost effortlessly. and i think they constantly have to be celebrated. >> what struck ask you said positive ide id has been made o7 bodies remain unidentified. in addition there are 407 unidentified pieces of human remains. i'm getting emotional reading that and what you were going through in those days. >> look. people dissent grated. they were vaporized. look at this building. this one building. there were two buildings, 102 stories tall, that basically imploded into dust. and many of the people that were in those buildings did so too. >> this is about a ten-page memo, on page six you said -- you're writing this in 2001. just as the finest steel sword is forged, tempered and strengthened by the scorching flame and heat of the fu fur th, the indomitable spirit of new yorkers shall emerge from this, stronger and keener, more resolute. 17 years later you say. >> now i'm getting teary eyed. listen. new yorker, the country was resilient and the country was united. and today when you look at the polarization of our country, you have to wonder where are those people. where are the people that was, you know, cheering george bush, you know, cheering the nypd. you know, things are changedded and it's terrible. >> with your permission we'll post this on the fox and friends website. the book is "the grave above the grave." thank you. george papadopoulos speaking out for the first time following his 14-day prison sentence. plus, former president obama, he's turning the midterm battle into a fight between he and himself. jason chaffetz is here next. the man running in california want to give free health care to immigrants in california. >> i believe journal health care is the right that every person should have. >> i think everybody should get free universal health care. . the only check on that behavior is going to have having a congress and other electing officials across the country who stood up for american values. and american ideals. >> that is former president obama in an internet video yesterday. here to react this morning, we're going to bring in jason chaffetz, fox news contribute cr and author of the upcoming book "the deep state." thanks for joining us. this morning. >> good morning. >> he talks about violating norms. wasn't the election of president trump, to violate the norms of the way washington was doing business? >> yeah. barack obama talked a lot about hope but donald trump delivered the american dream and the reality of making that available to everybody. all of the economic indicators, here's whapg overseas, donald trump has proven to be far more successful than barack obama ever even thought he could be. barack obama, his administration was one of the most scandalous we've had in my lifetime and donald trump is delivering the american dream for the american people. given an opportunity to extend the obama legacy, the voters rejected that overwhelmingly and put donald trump in the presidency. >> congressman, do you think that president obama will be successful at this? i mean he started as a community organizer. i think he does this because he legitimately can't help himself. like campaigning than the job of being president. will this work? will he turn out democrats to vote for people across the country? >> i don't think so. i think it shows the lack of leadership on the democratic said. they also don't have policies that resonate with the american people. remember it was during the obama administration that democrats across the country lost more than 1,000 seats, 1,000 from the house, the senate and at the local level. i think people have figured out that his policies do not work and that republican policies, a conservative agenda is actually what the country needs to move forward. >> and jason, there's something else the american people may be figuring out. maybe robert mueller's investigation is turning out to be a whole lot about not a lot. and ge george papadopoulos, we e promised he's going to deliver the goods, bring down the president. he's speaking out for the first time since getting a 14-day sentence. here's what he said. >> i receive an unsolicited e-mail from steven helper, who i thought was a cambridge professor. he reached out and said i want you to write a paper for me on your expertise. i joined me about a week later over drinks in london where all of the sudden he pulls out his phone, everyone has phones when they meet with me, and he places it in front of him and begins to tell me, so, george, of course hacking is in the interest of your campaign. of course the russians are helping you. these open-ended questions. and of course, you're probably involved in it too. that's correct, right? >> so jason it sounds like a setup, first of all. and second of all, i thought if he was going to get a light sentence of 14 days he would be singing like a canary, telling us there was collusion, instead he's saying there's a whole lot of nothing. >> with all due respect to mr. dop louse, h pop papadopouly low level person engaged in the campaign. he's found guilty here of lying to the fbi. this has nothing to do with collusion, has nothing to do with russia. this is something they went after and got. i wish him nothing but the best. he's going to pay a bit of a penalty. don't lie to if feds. other than that, move along. there's not a lot here. >> obviously it's serious. you should tell the truth to the fbi. >> yeah, don't lie to the fbi. >> however we've had months and month bs, years of niftion that at its base doesn't seem like a whole lot. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you we're turning now to your headlines. prosecutors are backing off claims that an accused russian agent traded sex for political access. u.s. attorneys saying they misunderstood the text messages sent from the leader of a russian pro-gun organization. teen a school bus driver suffers a deadly heart attack behind the wheel. three kids taking control of the bus, keeping it from crashing into a ditch in texas. good samaritans pulling over giving the 73-year-old cpr. his wife says he loved every kid who rode his bus over the past 11 years. a fast food restaurant bans employees from wearing political flare but some are sticking to their abolish i.c.e. buttons. at burgerville near portland, oregon. the organization calling the chain's new policy disgusting and deeply disturbing. burgerville received several complaints about the political messages on uniforms. the ban goes into effect on thursday. kanye west, speculation that he may run for the white house with one tweet. the rapper posting 2024 pushing his political ambitions back after previously saying he would run in 2020. the tweet coming after john legend revealed that west is serious about the presidential bid saying that west sees some aspects of himself in president trump. wow. and those are your headlines. >> so much in one small. >> you never know who is going to run for president these days. >> get ready. i'll tell you who's tan, rested and ready. rick. >> completely the opposite of all of that. won't get rest for a week. a huge storm coming to the u.s. we've also had a lot of rain and flooding. three people drown yesterday in texas from flash flooding that's happening there. really heavy rainfall. take a look at this rain here in the northeast. i say this because the ground is very saturated because of a wet year that we've had so far and we have a lot more rain coming now. this is over the next couple of days from what is not part of hurricane florence and then take a look at what will happen likely from hurricane flores, we'rflorence,probably 20 inches. this is ground sach waite saturm one of the wettest summers. three storms we're watching. isaac is going to move into the caribbean. this will be the first storm potentially getting close to puerto rico since last year's storm. we're going to watch that five or six days from now. this is what the models look like now. good guidance, south carolina, north carolina potentially for this storm. could stay right offshore. that's a less likely solution. but we're probably going to have a major hurricane here sometime on thursday making landfall across the eastern seaboard. if you're one of the people out there, be getting all of your plans ready. have an evacuation plan. all of those things that you should know if you live in that area. today is the day to get it ready. >> good advice. well the democrat running for governor in california, he wants to give free health care to illegal immigrants. sounds a bit crazy to me but apparently not. >> i think everyone should have free universal health care. everyone in the world. >> i believe universal health care ashealthcare is a right evd have. >> i think everybody should get free universal health care. >> free everything. >> do they know who is going to pay for it? diswhr we are are. i got to cross skydiving off of my bucket list and i took ed along with me. >> what about pete? >> pete? pete? you know what, pete is not here. . some quick headlines. happening tow, a 9/1 is memorial dedicated to the hea res on flit 93 in pennsylvania. the tower of voices memorial stands 93 feet tall in the field where the plane crashed. the tribute donning 40 chimes for the 40 passengers and crew members who died on board, stopping hig hijackers attempt o on and hit the washington capitol. the two-day holiday marks the start of the jewish new year. taking part in traditions, eating some special foods. well california's democratic candidate for governor pushing his very liberal agenda to a whole new level, pushing for free health care for illegal immigrants. >> so what do the locals any aboulocals thinkabout this? >> universal health care is a right that every person should have. >> i think everybody should get free universal health care. >> will joins us with more. how are you doing? so what did you find when you went out to the street here? this seems a little crazy for me, that people who broke the law are now being we regarded on a basic level. what did you find? >> i found that most people believe in a utopia. but as we know, as more conservative people, u to utopis don't exist. this is the trend in california, that most people believe free universal health care is free and that the government is paying for it but it's not a burden on the taxpayers. >> you asked them how are they going to pay for it and this is what some of the folks say. >> i don't see a problem with people getting higher income and paying more taxes. >> if you're paying taxes it would go toward that as well. >> do you think that illegal aliens pay the same taxes that we as natural citizens pay? >> do i think they do right now? yeah. >> you guys got to give something to take something, right? >> explain. >> please try. >> go ahead, will. what do you make of those answers? >> it's crazy that people think this. california already has such a burden on our taxpayers and this plan is supposed to cost $400 billion. to putting more of a burden on the taxpayers is going to cause each more distress in california. we need to money for the roads falling apart, the homelessness crisis. business owners are fleeing california because of the high taxes. this is only another step in the destruction of california. >> the assume assumption is thae illegals are paying as much in taxs as citizens do they not understand how it works? >> i guess they don't. when you don't have a social security number, you don't pay the same taxes that you pay if you're a citizen in this country. they don't understand that. they think that everything work out and they get things for free, that they don't actually have to pay for these things and they think that illegals deserve it coming to this country. we saw trump talk about it in montana when he was talking about the open border policy matched with the free universal health care policy and those things don't match up. >> will, it's just sort of like, here you go. >> well, if you're giving it away. >> a little mit bit more. >> plus you got bernie sanders out there telling everybody everything is free. >> thank so much. keep the videos going. >>.>> jim carrey just said this. >> there are certain people in your society that need to be taken ware of. we have to say yes to socialism. we have to stop apologizing. >> yes to socialism. >> oh boy. >> from the canadian. we'll discuss that next hour. and in 2016 fox business anchor gerri willis is diagnosed with breast cancer. today leading the fight against a deadly disease in the wake of the cure. first she is here. i cannot wait. needles. essential for the cactus, but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. because there are options. like an "unjection™". xeljanz xr. a once-daily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma and other cancers have happened. don't start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. tears in the stomach or intestines, low blood cell counts and higher liver tests and cholesterol levels have happened. your doctor should perform blood tests before you start and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. tell you doctor if you were in a region where fungal infections are common and if you have had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. needles. fine for some things. but for you, one pill a day may provide symptom relief. ask your doctor about xeljanz xr. an "unjection™". thousands of runners about to lace it up at this moment to race for a cure as the susan g. komen greater nyc kicks off this morning in new york city, the 28th annual race is raising money to combat breast cancer. >> the cause is personal for fox business anchor gerri willis diagnosed with stage three breast cancer in 2016. >> today she is raising awareness at the race later this morning. gerri joins us right now. >> we've been preparing for weeks and i'm so excited to say we have raised 68,000 dollars. can you believe that? >> that's phenomenal. >> this is going to help women get mammograms, this is going to research. the organization susan g. komen here in new york city, komen nyc .organize/fox. joins us new york. it's a little drizzly but who cares. we're new yorkers. give. you can always do that. everybody knows someone, one in eight women will face a breast cancer diagnosis in their lifetime and we're just starting to see men get diagnosed with breast cancer. some 9/11 guys. >> walks and runs throughout the country. go to the website schek it out. >check it out.>> you've talked e importance of community. and based on your journey, what is the real importance of this race and things like it when people are going through somewhawhatyou've been through. >> what i have found is you cannot be alone. that's the major thing. you know what's going on here? i'm getting a call. >> sorry. >> so popular. >> but the race is transformative and here's why. because you can't be alone. when you have breast cancer. what i found is your ability to combat the disease is entirely dependent op having been surrounded with positive reinforcement and this race is nothing but positive reinforcement when you go out there today and run. people are on fire. it's so much fun and so exciting. and you can still register by the way. register up until the race starts, until like 8:30 they'll take your registration right there. so let me tell you, if you know somebody who is in a situation where they haven't gotten the mammogram or maybe they've gotten the bad news, tell them, like, the diagnosis does not have to be the worst thing in the world. >> take a little bit about your journey. when i got to new york a couple of days ago, my doorknob was a pink wristband and a lot of our colleagues are wearing them. from talking to you and others you're not in this journey alone. >> no, i'm not in this journey alone. i've had a lot of support. i've had support from my family obviously, also my fox family has been incredibly supportive. amazing. i would get a call every month when i was in treatment, and i was in treatment for nine months from my bosses say, not when are you coming back to work but what can we do for you. are you okay i? can we tbet you something? that put me so much at ease and ready to get better. i was stage 3 lob lar, abvery aggressive breast cancer, tough to fight. but because i had the support i was able to see it through and that's what i wish for minute ay out there today facing this. you can find support by going to komen and other organizations there are so many. >> and a big fox group is going to be there today. >> we have so many going to be there. we're going to have an incredible group of fox people there. >> very cool. >> not just tv producers but on-air talent are going to join me. we're going to take pictures. social media bombing. >> thanks, gerri. >> thaipght thanks for coming. mike huckabee, candace owens all live coming up. . former president barack obama raising the stakes, attacking president trump in saying the democrats can't be come placen't. >> we have a dhoon chance to ree some sanity in our politics >> the search for the author of a scathing op sed in the "the new york times." >> it's a disgrace. i think the author of the editorial and frankly the "the new york times" should be ashamed. >> there are certain people in our society that need to be taken care of. we have to say yes to socialism. >> this is very unfortunate. >> you stole a point from me. you're a thief too. >> naomi osaka, a quantum leap, u.s. open champion. >> ed and i go skydiving. pete? you know what? pete is not here. >> nothing, huh? anything for chicken head? no? ♪ ♪ a lot of footage of you guys on the ground. >> you're going to see it and you're going to be like, i missed out on a really good thing. it was really cool. >> we were going up 13,500 feet and the whole way i think we wer both a little more nervous than we were letting on. we were trying to be brave. and a couple f times we looked at each other and the there were no words. and one of us is like, we're really doing this. >> this is because jedidiah said she never wanted to go skydiving. >> and they opened the plane door at one point and it's open and we're like raising eafer ed turns around and he's like -- i'm like, wow, this snot going g to go well. >> we're going to have great footage of you two facing your fears. >> jedidiah was braver than me saying she would go first. and i thought that's really hard. but it's harder to go second. you see your friend go, just like free fall and you have five seconds. you're like, i'm not getting out of this. that's me. and my stomach was dying here. >> that's why i did it. >> we got this certificate at the ebbed and end and i asked d beget a participation trophy. >forpete and he said everybody s to participate. we can't get you one. >> can we roll tape with me jumping with the golden knights? >> we don't have that. >> i would have liked the participation ribbon, please. >> you have to do it. >> i was there in spirit. >> you have to put in the work. >> you were there in spirit. we talked about you a lot. >> we did get you a gift and we'll reveal that gift later on this hour. we had some of the guys jumping with us with gopros. we have video of us. >> i haven't seen it. >> absolutely. you want to talk about doom and gloom when you're going into a fre fall out of a plane 13,000 feet in the air, this is what former president barack obama is talking about now. it's all gloom and doom. it's not positive about what the democrats want to do if they take over. it's all about donald trump is wrong, this is what his blistering speech was about on friday when he had his unveiling. yesterday in anaheim, california, the former president did not mention president trump by name but the something messas unmistakable. >> he's hitting the campaign trail. we saw him on friday, another campaign rally speech in california. he's stumping for democratic house candidates because it's all about taking it back for barack obama and the democrats. of course they want to impeach president trump if they can. this is what barack obama said yesterday. >> people get a sense that if we don't change things fundamentally that maybe our kids won't have as bright a future as we did. people are worried about whether they're going to be anyone to retire. this is a consequential moment in our history. and the fact is that if we don't step up things can get worse. two months we have a chance to restore some sanity in our politics. >> it's so depressing to listen to him. oh, everybody is suffering if we don't do something. in the meantime people are at home saying i'm keeping more of my money, my taxes are lower, my business got a boost, i'm looking at freedom in my health care choices, the border is about to be secure. we have a president who is standing up to dictators and they're making a list saying this isn't a reflection of the life i'm actually living. >> do you think they want to make barack obama the focus of the election? >> they don't necessarily s hava choice. they want to talk about the good ogoodold days that weren't so g. that' a contrast president trump would welcome. he's brought a new style to politics. i'm going to tweet what i think, say what i think and i'm going to have these rallies. that's why his critique of barack obama, i feel asleep while hi was talking. we want sanity back in our politics. no. we wanted to disrupt the status quo. that's why president trump was elected. >> he does a good job of ignoring the fact that he was president. he acts like he wasn't there causing a lot of the issues that people ran and voted against. it's almost as if he's doing this like you deleted his presidency saying policies of the post. policies of the past that people rejecterejected, those were your policies, obama care. but he has nowhere else to go. >> we decided to dig into the archives to give you an idea of what barack obama was saying days before he was president and the days leading up to the presidential election. >> we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the united states of america. >> so you love america so much that you want to fundamentally transfortransform it. it's the girlfriend, you're so beautiful, i love everything about you, you're wonderful if you could go about and fundamentally transform yourself, everything would be great. michelle obama said, for the first time in my adult life i'm proud of my country. they're proud of america when they're in charge, a smaller military, globalist agreement, climate change, all of the things that elites care about. it's almost like it's obama first versus america first. i love that. let's have that on the ballot. he's going to embrace socialism, universal health care. >> now democrats are going even further. >> oh yeah. >> barack obama as president was going sort of halfway. i'm leaning in here. now democrats are saying we're for socialism. when you say ocasio-cortez rising. >> jim carrey has some comments about that. listen. >> i grew up in canada okay. we had socialized medicine and i'm here to tell you that this [bleep] line that you get on all of the political shows from people is that it's a failure. the system is a failure in canada. it is not a failure in canada. i never waited for anything in my life. i just got back from vancouver and i keep hearing canadians are so nice, they can be nice because they have health care. because they have a government that cares about them, that doesn't say [bleep] swim pal. we have to say yes to socialism, to the word and everything. >> i can respect him in a way, though. he's being blunt hi honest. ocasio-cortez are unapologetically saying we want socialism. they're not trying to pass obama care they don't want that cab, y want medicare for all. socialism has failed everywhere, it's a disaster but you got to respect the honesty. >> do you think jim cory is being honest about waiting in line for anything when he's a multimillionaire? >> no. >> i prefer to get my political advice from ace ven ventura. >> he was a good detective. >> he was good at that. >> i did that yesterday, laces out, dan. so e-mail us, friends@foxnews.com. do you believe that we should go straight up socialism with jim carrey and the like who go from canada and then to bill mar's show in their cocoon of liberalism and project to us that socialism is going to work for us. take canada, it's not what he flames it as in canada or the uk. >> but we also have some serious headlines. >> we has have to turn to the headlines. we begin with extreme weather. the east coast is on high alert as tropical storm florence is gaining strength in the atlantic. virginia and south carolina are going north carolina is declaring states of emergency. the storm could hit as a high category hurricane in the coming days. this coming as rushing flood waters in texas kill three people, including a mother and their toddler daughter stranded in their vehicle. marching soldiers, colored balloons and flowers marking the country's 70th a anniversary focusing on peace and economic develop experts believe that north korea cut out the nuclear missile to show president trump's its commitment to denuclearize. north korea is usually known for boasting its powerful weapons during military celebrations. the man accused of sending donald trump jr. a threatening letter pleads guilty. the guilty plea coming seven months after the tea terrifying scare. this is one of six letters sent to high profile people across the nation. his wife opened it and was sent to the hospital as a precaution. naomi osaka makes history as the first japanese tennis player to win a grand slam championship but that overshadowed by serena williams stunning outburst. >> she went out. >> you owe me an apology. >> williams is docked for yelling at the umpire and calling her a thief for penalizing her. boos filled the stadium during the ceremony. osaka apologized with tears in her eye for beating the fan favorite. >> it is also football sunday, i must say. >> i like the purple. >> i wore my vikings tie. >> i didn't even notice that. >> and cool socks too. >> i saw we're number three in the power ranks in the new york post. >> her cousins moved from washington to minnesota. >> i'm hopeful. i took a sharpie and covered over my nike thing on my jersey. i'm wearing it today. >> that's commitment. >> it's at home. i'll take a picture for you later. >> you probably have another birthday party to go to. >> today is a football party i have to go to. >> that's a little better president obama creating a firestorm saying this about ben benghazi. >> embrace wild conspiracy theories like those surrounding benghazi. >> former u.s. army ranger and benghazi attack hero is here to respond next. plus, corey lewandowski is here live. > and i got to cross somethig off of my bucket list and i took ed with me. stick around. >> that's coming up. ♪ ♪ with safelite, you can see exactly when we'll be there. saving you time for what you love most. >> kids: whoa! >> kids vo: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪ but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can't do anything about that. now that you know the truth... are you in good hands? 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>> yeah. you know, you guys assessment this morning hit it right on the head. he's a true narcissist. just an elitist that -- i believe he thinks it didn't happen. he did nothing wrong that night. he sent no support. benghazi was made up. we lost two f 0 our friends and it was a fantasy. it's disgusting. it just raises the bile inside of me. i had a hard time watching the speech itself. i just wanted to see what he had to say. when that came across, i wanted to reach through the screen and grab him and choke him saying are you kidding me, are you kidding me that you would have the ga gall to gis grace the memories of my teammates and what he did there to call it a conspiracy. that's a narcissist for you. >> obviously you've r ear you'ra great deal of frustration. you lived it. i read the book and watched the movie. not the same thing. it wasn't a before, during and after scandal. it wasn't just what happened. it was blaming it on a video which they since per pech rated. >perpetuated.>> and throwing the the video in prison, essentially destroying his life, what obama did. he continue to double down and compound it. and thing is though that his base honestly believes that. i know there are people out there today -- i can't stand social media and i'm on twitter, but they say it didn't happen, say we're making it up. he caters to the easily manipulated. and it's just -- i can't just sit by and not do anything about it, not say something strongly against it because he's -- honestly the man is a disgrace, a complete disgrace. >> it's not just benghazi. just that the world was better under his administration. >> yeah. >> calling isis the jv team and their comeback, it took donald trump to decimate them. >> and people forget before benghazi happened, when the election was coming up, a al qaa was on the running he kept saying terrorism was on the run. al qaeda was not on the run. they took part in the attack on us that night. but that's what they did. if they doesn't fit their narrative, they're going to rewrite it. where did he come out with this talk? it was at a university with college age kids. in college i wa easily manipula. he's going to portray it there, especially in chicago. but it's completely offensive and something i wish i had the man sitting in front of me right now. i really do, without his secret service. >> we'll be careful with that. he's a former president. >> yeah. i know. but it doesn't get yourself away from saying comments. >> i understand your sentiment. we're six years from this attack. a lot of people -- just like we're 18 years from 9/11. we're going to have to remind the next generation. do you think the legacy of what happened there will be remembered or is this something that will turn into a talking point for the left? >> you know, i do believe that it will still remain a talking point for the left, the far left. i do think there are good democrats out there. you've got democrats and then you have liberalists. there's a difference. but i think as far as the conservatives go, as far as veterans go, as far as the military is concerned, it's going to stay as a beacon in history as a courageous event. tyron and bob were courageous warriors that might to save their lives to save two dozen. it's who you talk to and who's going to be in office too. >> we remember those men and what they did for this country, that sacrifice and the heroism there in benghazi. thank you for your service to this country, chris. appreciate your time. we'll remember you this week. >> thank you. still ahead, is trump critic ben sass considering leaving the gop? 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come on, jedidiah. >> you do it. i'll wait here. >> i'm doing this because of you. you're facing your fear. >> the things i do for frend "f& friends." >> we forgot something. >> pete. >> pete? >> pete is not here. >> we ready? >> we're ready. >> let's do it. ♪ >> fly, baby fly. whoa! >> ed, nice to meet you. >> jedidiah nice to meet you. >> my name is joe. welcome to the ranch. >> is this where we sign our lives away? ♪ >> here to make the first skydive. >> welcome. >> make sure the paperwork is all good and then we're going to go from there. >> got any paperwork for pete? >> not that i can see. >> anything for chicken hegseth? nothing? >> where are we going to land? >> you're going to land right here. ♪ >> so here we are. >> nice. >> i will probably not panic just yet but it will happen. >> that's totally normal. you're wearing a harness with four hooks, two on your should arance two on your side. that's how i connect you to me. just reach down and pull them up over your knees for me. >> you ready for the gun show? >> i am. >> come on with us. we're going to head out. >> whoa! >> getting real. we're about to get into a plane this big and then we're going to jump. ♪ >> now it's getting real. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> oh my god! amazing! whoa! >> i can't believe we did it. i cannot explain to you what that's like, but it's unbelievable. guys thank you so much. oh my god! whoa! >> this is the first time we saw the gopro video. we're in tandem with an instructor and there's a single person with a gopro who jumps before jedidiah. they got the shots. and my guy, what you didn't see on tv, my instructorrer saying, oh, our gopro guy, he had to bail because it's little windy and he was going toward somebody's house, not towards the field and i'm like, we're good, right? and that guy, the gopro guy was very experienced, he was fine. but i'm like what does that mean for us? >> what's that like? >> we got t-shirts. >> we got t-shirts for you. >> skydive the ranch. they treated so well, dealt with my panic beautifully. >> you looked -- actually you did one of these things but once you were flying. >> once i was flying i was like gentleman. it'ya. yeah. it was so funny the contrast. >> if i think about it i'm going to get really stressed. we got you a birthday hat. you skipped out on us for a birthday party and we want you to have one of these. >> this is just like yesterday for me. since jen told you couldn't do it. we just wanted to make sure. >> is that what happened? >> i thought it was going to make noise. >> yeah, like new year's eve. >> but thank you skydive the ranch and thank you for jedidiah for letting me come along. >> and thank you "fox & friends" for letting me cross this off my bucket life. so cool. former president obama turning the midterm battle into a fight between himself and president trump. corey lewandowski is hea here to react next. ♪ ♪ like a small cough can be a big bad problem for your grandchildren. babies too young to be vaccinated against whooping cough are the most at risk for severe illness. help prevent this! talk to your doctor or pharmacist today about getting vaccinated against whooping cough. you always get the lowest price on our rooms, guaranteed? let's say it in a really low voice. carl? lowest price, guaranteed. just stick with badda book. badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com it did not start with donald trump. he is a symptom, not the cause. he's just capitalizing on resentments that politicses have been fanning for years. >> i'm sorry i watched it but i fell asleep. i they he's trying to take credit and now this is called not recovery, this is called rocket ship. >> quite a contrast right there. here to react, we're going to bring in corey lewandowski coauthor of "let trump be trump." former president obama saying that president trump is the symptom, not the cause. what is the symptom? >> the symptom is that for the eight years of the obama administration he was a globalist and the voters went to the ballot in 2016 saying we don't want a globalist, we don't want hillary clinton. we want donald trump. and what donald trump has been able to do is to fix the problems of the obama administration. look, i listened to the speech and i highlighted nine fallacies that president obama talked about, including, not the least of which was you know the economy is booming because of him. under his administration we had a 2% on average growth rate over the eight years. under the trump administration we're growing at 4% and in the atlanta federal reserve thinks it will be 8%. time and time again the media has gifng barac given barack ob. and the revisionist history they're trying to rewrite is amazing. and every day that barack obama is on the trail he's helping republicans remember what they don't want to go forward in november. >> the hubt is continuing for the author of the anonymous "the new york times" editorial. what do you make of that? do you have any insight into who the source may be? should jeff sessions get involved in trying to figure this out? is it a national security risk? >> what the president said and what the american people agree is there s there's an individual inside his administration which is leaking information or is privy to information that could be leaked that's a security concern. we have already seen individuals who work in the administration have leaked private conversations between this president and other world leaders. and now if you look at the stories coming out, staff membersmembers were taking papef of his desk or trying to stop his agenda from going forward. if they're doing that there needs to be accountability. there's a legal resource involved because they did swear an oath to the constitution to make sure that they're beholding what the commander in chief is supposed to to be doing, which is protecting our country. >> on friday we were told that john kelly has a list of roughly a dozen names that people inside the west wing think are likely suspects. do you and other trump insiders have a sense of a couple of different people who you're zeroing in on? >> well, look, i'd love to play the guessing game but the bottom line is we're going to let the people look into who this is. we don't know the level of the person. the notion that this is a senior administration official is so broad, that could refer to anybody. there are literally thousands of people who are designated. but what the truth is, if a person is so concerned about what is taking place, give them the forum to come out in public, let's see what credibility that person has and let's have a discussion. the bottom line is donald trump is winning, our economy is stronger, the military is trorng, we're more secure today than we've ever been and the economic opportunity that he's put in place is helping make our country great again. let's have that discussion if someone is concerned about what he's doing. >> you were the campaign manager of president trump's campaign. one of your very senior senior senior campaign staffers, george papadopoulos, of course when he was indicted the left and the so-called mainstream media thought this was the beginning of the eme end of donald trump. now he's speaking out after his heavy prison sen tis of 14 days. he's speaking out about his view of what happened. listen to george papadopoulos. >> i receive an unsolicited e-mail from steven helper who i thought was a cambridge professor inviting me. he reached out saying i want you to write a paper for me. i joined him about a week later and he begins to tell me, so, george, of course hacking is in the interest of your campaign. of course the russians are helping you. and of course you're probably involved in it too. that's correct, right? >> so he was propped up as the key to the case. now here we are. your reaction? >> here's the thing. this guy had nothing to do with the campaign. he literally attended one meeting which lasts 25 minutes. i never spoke to him for more than 15 seconds over the course of the year and a half i ran the campaign. he was never a campaign employee. he was a volunteer. and this goes to show you how dumb the collusion story is. they go try to flip a volunteer who had no access or communication with any senior member of the cam pin. nobody is talking about the fact that hillary clinton campaign paid $5 million to fusion gps to come up with a false dossier to give it to nelly orr, bruce orr's wife and there's still been no criminal prosecution of that. that's the only collusion that took place here. let's hold the clinton campaign -- where are the people who were in charge of the clinton campaign. how come they haven't been brought before the mueller investigators or a federal grand jury and held them accountable. this is the double standard that the justice department needs to fix. >> maybe he was a senior volunteer. >> he was not even a senior volunteer. he never drove a vehicle for us. he did literally almost nothing. >> thank you, cory. >> we are turning now to your headlines. we begin with a fox news alert. a manhunt is under way for a gunman opening fire near auburn university overnight. one person is dead and four others injured at an alabama mcdonald's. officers believe a fight led to the shooting hours be after the university's first home football game. a 20-year-old man was killed. the other victims injured. range in ages from 16 to 21. one is in critical condition. the other three are expected to be okay. trump critic ben sass says she often thinks about leaving the republican party. the nebraska senator tweeting yep, regularly consider it in response to someone sells saying they left the democratic party and asked if anyone else has similar thoughts. he was among the republicans who toork shots at president trump. the tunnel to tower foundation standing behind the gold star family of a fallen army ranger. the foundation given the wife and daughter of christopher so o lease a brand-new home. members of his pl platoon and te family members took part in the tunnel to tower 5k in va spra the family has raised $7 million for family to pay off mortgages. go to tunnelstotowers .organizeo donate. let's go now to our good friend and close colleague, rick. how are you? >> a lot of rain across a big chunk of the country. down across parts of texas. take a look at the map. we had flooding in texas, cost three fatalities. we have heavy rain across pennsylvania, upstate new york. i say that because once we get the moisture that's coming from what will become hurricane florence, i think we're going to see a lot of inland flooding. problems not just along the coast. that's the track of the storm. it's going over very warm water, plenty of warm water for it to strengthen. this is a wind sheer. that's what breaks storm apart. where you see the blue, that's the ocean. cutting right to the west of bermuda. that's where the storm is going. there will be not be able to inhibit strengthening the storm. all of the models indicating a strong storm, perhaps ramping up in intensification today and tomorrow, and a major hurricane sometime on thursday along the carolina coastline. and because of the saturated ground we're going to see impacts far inland. these are the two models that we watch and both of them in better agreement so we have more confidence in that direction. >> thank you, rick. former president obama drying to discredit president trump for a booming economy. but whose side has the facts on their side? 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a lot of it is playing out with the tariff stuff. when the companies like the journal say hey why do we want more jobs in america. they didn't like that part. be careful. >> thanks so much all right. well, it is service dog awareness month. we're honoring the canines that assist our vets when they return home from due fi. we'll introduce you to this marine vet and his dog zoe next. we are honoring the canines who help our vets readjust to civilian life. after returning from iraq, this marine veteran suffered from depression and ptsd. then he discovered the animal rescue foundation's program. he was matched with a rescue dog named zoe. now a year later they're about to finish their training together. michael and his service dog zoe join us now. thank you so much for being here. thank you so much for your service to our country. zoe, you are amazing and beautiful. thank you so much for doing this segment. we're really honored to have you. >> i'm honored to be here. thank you so much. >> how did you first find out about the animal rescue foundation and how you came to be paired with zoe. >> i was at the veterans hospital in martinez, california waiting for my prescriptions and i met another veteran with his service animal and i began to ask him question, hey, where did you get your service dog. so he gave me some contact information and it took me a few days to think about calling the number to inquire about it because i was thinking imha cann a service dog do for me and my issues. after i made the phone call, all of the worries went away. thanks to the program and everybody in the program, the whole staff diswhr how long was it until you and zoe were made into a team? >> they told me it would take anywhere between three to six months until i received a dog. but i think it was two weeks after i made the official phone call me called me, michael, we have a german shepherd for you. would you like to come see here. >> that's you, zoe. >> yeah. the next thing you know, we're together. it was actually a year yesterday, one year yesterday. >> happy anniversary. one-year a anniversary. tell us what that training is like. the training is supervised, your training was supervised by danny who is also a vet, which must have helped the process along. what do you teach each other, learn together. what does that look like? >> the training is once wit a w. danny did a great job of explaining everything, barney style for the most part. it's true because he is a combat veteran it made things more comfortable for me. the training was fun. he gave us a lot of tips and advice. it was basically like we had to go home and do the home work ourselves. what you put into it is what you get out of it and he emphasized that a lot. yeah, i put in a lot with her. as much as i could. >> it's definitely a bonding experience. i have a dog and i can't get her to do anything. i'm so impressed with zoe. the purr rrhea dog chow released it salute a dog campaign. raising money to eng expand thes to vets program. how can the viewers get involved. >> there's an awesome video that features me and zoe and some other great veterans and thar service animals as well too. for every share of that video, purr reena donates money to the program which is great to held program find other veterans like myself to pair animals like zoe. and we're on the back of a dog chow food bag. >.>> i saw that. >> purina donates money toward the program to help benefit veterans like myself. >> thank you so much for bringing light to this thank you zoe for being here. we appreciate you. thank yes for your service again. >> thank you. still ahead, mike huckabee, candace owens, greg jarrett and maria bartiromo all here coming up live next. >> tech: at safelite autoglass, we really pride ourselves on making it easy for you to get your windshield fixed. with safelite, you can see exactly when we'll be there. saving you time for what you love most. >> kids: whoa! >> kids vo: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪ . . . you finished preparing him for college. in 24 hours, you'll send him off thinking you've done everything for his well being. but meningitis b progresses quickly and can be fatal, sometimes within 24 hours. while meningitis b is uncommon, about 1 in 10 infected will die. like millions of others, your teen may not be vaccinated against meningitis b. meningitis b strikes quickly. be quick to talk to your teen's doctor about a meningitis b vaccine. former president barack obama raising the stakes, he's attacking president trump and saying that 2k5e78 democrats cae placomplacent. >> he's a narcissist, a complete disgrace. >> the truth is, the american people in 2016 rejected the policy and direction of barack obama when they elected president donald trump. the search for the author of a scathing op ed in the new york times. >> if there's an individual inside administration which is leaking information, there's a legal recourse involved. there are certain people in our society that need to be taken care of. >> we have to say yes to socialism, to the word and everything. >> ed and i go sky diving. >> let's do it. >> it's unbelievable. this is awesome. thank you so much. oh, my god! ♪ i love rock and roll. ♪ put another dime in the juke box, baby. ♪ i love rock and roll. we love rock and roll. we fuwe love fun on this show. how high up were you guys? >> i looked like a crazy person. >> more than a mile, right? >> it's really high. >high.>> when you get down to 6,000 feet, the parachute, your tandem partner opens up the parachute. there's the plunge. there's that -- it's a free-fall. >> it's like you don't realize what's happening right away. you're just flying through the air so fast. it's an amazing feeling. >> you overcame your fear. >> i overcame my fear. snakes, i touched a snake. i know that won't kill me. sky diving, that didn't kill me. it was a nonvenomous snake. i needed a partner to do it. they weren't going to send me alone. pete didn't step up. >> i had to go to a birthday party. >> there's some hats, some little -- >> thank you very much, guys. >> i'm getting mentally prepared for football today. it takes a full day. >> you got the vikings. >> we're readily. >ready.no kneeling. >> we're going to do tailgating. we'll have big daddy salgoto out there. he's bringing barbecue. >> some food, never forget to mention the food. >> a little bit of football as well. it's almost like the nfl, it's almost like game on between president trump and president obama. it kicked off friday when president obama broke this long-standing tradition of former presidents of staying on the sidelines, not getting out on the field, and in fact vice president pence this morning in an interview with chris wallace is really going in on that and saying that he thinks it's ridiculous that this tradition was broken and that, pete, the american people according to vice president pence, they spoke in 2016 and said that they wanted to go in a whole different direction. >> but former president obama says things can get worse. listen. >> people get a sense that if we don't change things fundamentally, that maybe our kids won't have as bright a future as we did. people are worried about whether they're going to be able to retire. there's a consequential moment in our history and the fact is that if we don't step up, things can get worse. in two months we have a chance to restore some sanity in our politics. [ cheering and applause ] >> we've all keyed in on different aspects of that. a lot to say. i haven't commented on the last line, though, we'll have more sanity. if the democrats take the house and move on impeachment hearings things will get really sane in washington, d.c. >> they had a crack addict this week who had a very serious confirmation hearing for a seat on the supreme court. were they unified? >> i have to comment, because as you were talking about this, i'm looking at a media comment, but usa today had a column, the title is we have a chance to restore some sanity, president obama's quote, and then it says obama takes softer approach toward trump. that's softer? es been declaring everything that's been going on under the trump administration insane. it was madness. >> it can get worse, like we can remind bacrewind back to the oba administration where jobs were leaving the country, isis was rising, we were calling in the j.v. team, we were saddled with obama care. there's a a reason why the voters went to the ballot box, they rejected the eliteism of barack obama and his party and what hillary clinton would have continued. they want our government behind our brave warriors at every moment. >> a lot of the jobs are coming back. we saw these dramatic jobs numbers on friday. we've got a long list of achievements that the president has accomplished and yet you don't see a lot of people in the media talking about that long scroll. >> that's right. whether it's the unemployment rate, whether it's wages rising, manufacturing jobs, we played a clip of barack obama in 2016 saying these jobs are never coming back, these deals -- he thinks you can renegotiate them. how do you renegotiate a deal? the community organizer never reorganized a deal in his life. the deal maker in chief is in the white house, he's staring down mexico, staring down nato, the e.u., saying w better have deals tha that are good for us. >> mike pence had something to say about this. >> it's disappointing to see president obama break with the tradition of former presidents and become so political and roll out the same tired arguments that he and liberals have made over the last eight years. the truth is, the american people in 2016 rejected the policy and direction of barack obama when they elected president donald trump. >> it's interesting, there was a republican campaign event, i believe a fundraiser in new york city yesterday, new york times got an audio recording of it. mick mulvaney and the rnc chair were here and this audio recording shows that mick mulvaney was saying there are a lot of accomplishments for the president to talk about but that republicans have to find a way he said in private to subtract the president's divisive persona from those accomplishments. i wonder what you think about the fact that, yeah, there's a lot of good things for the president to tout but when his budget director is allegedly telling republican donors, the president's got high negatives, that's not something the white house likes to admit, i wonder how republicans do that. >> that's a fair point. i think there are people attracted to different aspects. some say my job's coming back, my life's improving, wages are up, this is a good thing for my family. there are people who say we needed this cultural flash point, we needed someone to break glass in case of crisis and that's exactly what president trump has done in his own style. if you can play that dynamic, i think there's voters you attracted to both of those. >> i think republicans and president trump have been talking about positive things. i see him talking about the commit you asked about the kavanaugh hearings. to me a lot of folks on the left look unhinged. there's a decembe desperation. you watch the kavanaugh hearings, and you hear from the start it sounds like a circus, in addition to protests you have people, spartacus was in there, making his case. it seems like a desperation from the left, rather than coming out with their own positive message. >> a new low maybe this week when you saw the new york times publish an anonymous op ed piece, something that is an extremely rare step. they acknowledged that. the new york times said they believe there was news value because this anonymous senior official, as we call him, we don't know how senior, they're now having to defend it. in this piece out now, they said in our view this op ed offered a significant first person perspective. we have not presented this to our readers before, that of a conservative explaining why they felt that even if working for the trump administration meant compromising their principles, it ultimately served the country, while helping to resist some of his worst impulses. even former president obama in history speech was saying things like this was a cowardly act, the person should have attached their name. because former president obama's point was that if you're going to stand you up, this anonymous person was not elected, is not accountable to the people. president trump was elected. he's the elected president even if democrats don't want to admit it. >> we will find out who wrote it, in due time. >> they're saying conservative. the new york times version of a conservative may not be our version of a conservative. that will be interesting to find out. >> exactly. is it an obama appointee. is it a never trumpers? are they senior? are they not. we will find out their credibility is at stake. vice president pence was asked about this, one of the charges made in this op ed was that were thinking about invoking the 25th amendment and removing this president. this what is the vice president said. >> well, i wouldn't know. what i can say is it's a disgrace. i think the author of the anonymouan --anonymous editoriaw york times should be ashamed. it seems to me an obvious attempt to distract attention from this booming economy and president trump's record of success. >> one of the claims made in the op ed is a that there had been discussion of invoking the 25th amendment to even remove the president from office. have you ever been part of a conversation about that? >> no, never. and why would we be, margaret? >> that's the vice president talking to margaret brennan. there is also an interview with chris wallace, you'll want to check that out throughout the afternoon and evening. you see the vice president firing back, making sure -- there was an initial speculation in washington, maybe vice president pence was involved in it. he is trying to show there's no daylight between he and the president. >> i wasn't sure how contagious trump derangement syndrome is. clearly it's made it to the top. >> the virus has president. >> the former president is infected. someone call a doctor. he's got the derangement syndrome. >> two days in a row you're saying that. >> 100%. it is what it is. they can't handle it. >> we are turning now tour headlines. we begin with a fox news alert. a manhunt us under way for a gunman opening fire near auburn university overnight. one person is dead and four others injured at an alabama mcdonald's. officers believe a fight led to the shooting. a 20-year-old man was killed. the other victims injured, range in age from 16 to 21. one is in critical condition. the other three are expected to be okay. turning to extreme weather, the east coast is on high alert as tropical storm florence is gaining strength in the atlantic. virginia and south carolina are joining north carolina in declaring states of emergency. the storm could potentially hit as a high category hurricane in the coming days. this as rushing floodwaters in texas kill three people including a mother and her toddler daughter, stranded in their vehicle. the first japanese tennis player has won a grand slam championship. serena williams had a stunning outburst. >> [ indiscernible ] >> she called the umpire a thief for penalizing her. boo's filled the stadium during the award ceremony. owosaka apologized for beating e fan favorite. >> you're pulling for the american. you want serena to win but that's some tough stuff. you may remember this emotional photo when president trump greeted this young boy honoring his father. the fallen soldier at arlington national cemetery in 2017. that mom is here with a message for colin kaepernick and nike on true sacrifice, just ahead. plus, north korea marks its 70th anniversary with a huge military parade. something is missing this time around. a home coming queen has a nail-biting finish you need to see, coming up next. ♪ how can we say when you book direct at choicehotels.com you always get the lowest price on our rooms, guaranteed? 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>> that is former trump campaign advisor george papadopoulos speaking out following his 14 day prison sentencing detailing his interactions with an fbi informant and alleged source for the anti-trump dossier her doss. we have greg here with a reaction. there was so much hype in the media when george papadopoulos first admitted he lied to the fbi. i don't want to minimize, you should tell the fbi the truth. he gets a two week sentence. i thought he would blow the case open. turns out he's got nothing. >> mueller must be proud, a 14 day sentence for a junior, young associate for the campaign, who heard a rumor and passed it along that the russians had hillary clinton's e-mails. papadopoulos should have told the truth. he was really prosecuted for being stupid. there was no evidence of collusion related to papadopoulos at all. >> while robert mueller, special counsel, has been pursuing these kinds of charges that have amounted to not a lot, on the other side you have president trump saying hey, special counsel, why aren't your guys looking at bruce ohr and the other side of this. you've been reporting that the president's hedging closer perhaps to declassifying key intelligence that will shed light on bruce ohr and others. >> there's four sets of documents, the renewal of the fisa application. >> to go after carter page. >> and the gang of eight documents, the bruce ohr documents and a fourth set of documents. >> let's go to bruce ohr. a 302. as i understand it, you're the lee expert, that's the record of the fbi sitting down to interview you. if bruce ohr didn't tell the truth about his interactions with fusion gps and christopher steele, we've got a problem. >> he would be in legal jeopardy. he never disclosed his wife was being paid for helping compose the dossier that he pedaled. he's profiting by virtue of his office and his wife's work by pedaling this phony dossier. so he's already in legal jeopardy. but i think all of this information once declassified by president trump -- he really needs to do this. congress is entitled lawfully to those documents. >> talk about the significance. >> i am told that this will really be explosive. it will be not only exculpatory of the president. it will show false intelligence was used to launch the trump russia investigation. >> you hear this may be coming as soon as this week? 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>> to me it's upsetting. this is a man who knelt before the flag that my husband and that me and my son we love, it's so dear to us. my husband did sacrifice absolutely everything for the flag, for the country and for all that it stood for. to see someone who knelt before it be able to say that he sacrificed everything, it's hard. it's sad. it's not right. >> britney, your son -- go ahead. >> i was going to say, if knee any could just -- they could have chosen anyone and they chose a person who disrespected the flag. if they could look at my son for a moment, look at his eyes, they would see a dear sacrifice. there's so many great men and women in this country who have sacrificed everything. colin kaepernick is not one of them. >> your son will remember his father, your husband and that will be what real sacrifice looks like. a lot of other sons and daughters are watching this nike ad and they think kneeling before the anthem and repercussions of that is sacrificing everything. what's the cultural impact of holding that up as opposed to the type of service your husband gave? >> my husband would be disappointed. i think it's a good thing that we can protest in this great country and stand up for what we believe in, but it doesn't mean that we all have to agree on how people do it. i think he would be highly disappointed and it's sad. >> it sure is. i think there's a lot of people that feel like -- everyone agrees protest in this country is ingrained in who we are as a fabric. wrong spot. when you stand for the anthem and your son will be taught to stand for the anthem, what are you thinking about when you put your hand over your heart? >> i'm thinking about the men and women who sacrificed everything from this great country we live in thinking of the rights and freedom we have, the unity we have. i'm not thinking of any of the bad things. i'm proud. i have so much pride for this country that we live in and so many men and women do and i feel that nike could have made a better decision and chosen someone who was more he deserving or someone that our children can look up to and disrespecting our flag isn't one of them. >> colin kaepernick put on a football uniform. your husband put on the uniform of the u.s. marine corps. why deserve? >> my husband comes from a long line of marines. his mother was a marine. his father was a marine. his grandparents, his great grandparents were all ma reasons. i would say it was in his blood. he want todd serve this country. he was so proud to do it. i personally would like to invite nike and colin kaepernick to meet me and my son at arlington national cemetery and see what a true sacrifice is, see what it is like to sacrifice everything for something that you believe in. and then they can personally look in the eyes of my son and see what a dear sacrifice was made and they can look around and see thousands and thousands of people who sacrificed also everything for something that they believed in. >> so well said. that is true sacrifice. god bless your husband, your son and what you're doing to continue his legacy. if folks want to know more about sergeant christopher jacobs you can visit facebook.com/remembering sagtchristopher jacobs. more "fox & friends" on the other side. engineered to take the crown. the lexus ls 500 and ls 500h. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. if your moderate to severeor crohn's symptoms are holding you back, and your current treatment hasn't worked well enough it may be time for a change. ask your doctor about entyvio®, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn's. entyvio® works at the site of inflammation in the gi tract, and is clinically proven to help many patients achieve both symptom relief and remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. entyvio® may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal brain infection caused by a virus may be possible. tell your doctor if you have an infection experience frequent infections or have flu-like symptoms, or sores. liver problems can occur with entyvio®. if your uc or crohn's treatment isn't working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio®. entyvio®. relief and remission within reach. what's going on? 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>> it's the greatest threat to our democracy in terms of not juts economics, -- just economics, but the heart and soul of what makes america great. the greatest difference between conservatives and liberals is this. conservatives believe in the individual, liberals believe in the group. if you group think and you believe you're tied to the success of whatever group, whether it's labor, whether it's ethnicity, whether it's religious philosophy, if you're tied to the group, you can't do better than the group does. conservatives believe that we are individuals, that we have individual responsibility, individual possibility, and so i would just remind people that if you think that america is a bunch of groups, then you're probably going to be a liberal. if you think that your future is in your hands and that you can make it what you want it to be, you need to realize, like it or not, you're a conservative. >> governor, you mentioned 2020. popotential challengers seem toe coming out of the woodwork. watch this. >> if senior administration officials believe the president of the united states is not able to do this job, they should invoke the 25th amendment. >> i'm going to release the e-mail about racial profiling. this is about the closest i'll have in my life to an i am spartacus moment. >> we can't afford another trump accolade in the house. >> get off your rear end and get out and vote! >> we have a presidency which is off the rails. >> governor, i have to admit, i'm disappointed in you this morning. i listened to the answers you gave already. usually you come prepared and you have not yet mentioned spartacus. i'm very disappointed in you. >> you haven't been reading by twitter feed lately. if you had, you would have a lot of spartacus references. that had to be one of the most comical thing i've seen happy in a senate hearing. corey booker, he had all that information but he was too busy getting his makeup done that he forgot to read t mails from his staff. that was outrageous. if you listen to the democrats, they're doing everything they can to try to keep donald trump from running again in 2020. there's a reason for that. they deep down know that he's going to get reelected until they can come up with some plan, whether impeachment, or whether it's the 25th amendment, which is so bizarre, so totally out of control, it's like they they've never read it, they don't understand it, i think they know that america is doing well under this president and he's going to win re-election and there's not a lot they can do about it. i don't know if you're old enough to remember the movie billy jack and he said i'm going to take this foot and put it on that side of your face and there's not a thing you can do about it. sometimes i think president trump is like billy jack. there's not a lot they could do about this. >> i knew if you got warmed up you would bring this in. >> i don't know the billy jack reference. >> you're too stinking young. >> we're going to go overseas. the president made a big bet when he met with kim jong un, hoping the denuclearization of the peninsula could happen. there are signs that they may be not abiding by the principles of the deal but there's a sign they may be are. they throw parades in north korea. we see them all the time, military missiles and might they're trying to show to the world. on the 70th anniversary of the regime, they didn't a different parade. there weren't missiles. it appears there were flowers and floats which is different than the ballistic missiles. will the media give the president credit? >> the media wouldn't give president trump credit even if kim jong un dumped every ocean he had into the ocean. what people need to understand is this. first, we don't know if this is going to turn out well. we hope it does. we're certainly further along than we've been with any president in the 70 years. that's the good news. the other piece of this is, and this is really good news, there has not been any fireworks firing off in the sky from north korea since these talks started. so president trump has already had a significant level of progress. he's not getting the credit that he deserves for it. he, mike pompeo and others have done i think a terrific job. this is a process. it's not a one single event. the president understands that. but he is taking us through the process and getting us closer to a significant and permanent peace deal in the korean peninsula. >> governor, you get us as close to spartacus as we've ever been. >> and billy jack. >> spartacus. >> well done, governor. >> thank you, governor. >> have a great weekend. we are turning to your headlines. california governor jerry brown sending a stark message to the white house. he signed two laws blocking president trump's plans to expand offshore oil drilling along california's coast. the governor said in part not here, not he know, we will not let the federal government destroy our treasured coast. think you've had bad dates? 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[ cheering and applause ] >> they have a government that cares about them. that doesn't say -- we have to say yes to socialism, to the word and everything. >> rich hollywood guy never waits for anything. shocker. >> the government is not your mommy and daddy. the idea that government is supposed to do everything for you, to provide everything for you, that's absurd. what ever happened to people working hard and making things happen for themselves. this is america. >> you're so old fashioned. this is why -- you say bring it on. i understand that. at the same time, it is really bad for america. bernie sanders, the socialist from the bronx, maxine waters, these kids have been learning about this in college. kids in universities are told captainly. and free markets is about profit and agreed and hitting the little guy and exploitation, the west has exploited people to get to the top, it's a real problem. it will be a total dichotomy. >> david alexrod, he was sitting there, his face was like, well, i don't know. but we're all getting response from him and from you. michael e-mails in, as soon as jim carey writes a check for 90% of his net worth to the treasury department, then he might have a foundation for his argument to look at socialism. >> chet sent in this tweet. jim carey network $150 million will tell you why socialism is actually a good thing. >> he benefited from captainly. >> we have an e-mail from carol, keep your socialism in canada and stop with your diatribe in the usa. >> you know what happens when you gut your budget to pay for the welfare state, your military get itty bitty. we live in a world where armies and navies and air forces and maybe a space force, that matters if you want to stay free. >> maybe you and i should think about the space force. >> we've already -- you'll be lagging behind. >> i don't have to -- >> you'll catch up. former president obama now trying to discredit president trump for the booming economy. >> i have to kind of remind them, actually those job numbers are the same as they were in 2015 and 2016. >> but whose side are the facts on? we'll take a look next hour. democrats putting on a chaotic display during the supreme court nominee hearings for brett kavanaugh. the disruption and theatrics leaving many wondering where was the civility. father jonathan morris has sunday morning thoughts about that coming up next. ♪ (vo hand) can we talk? you know i miss playing catch with the... grandkids and teaching them how to give a good handshake. now look at me... i'm all bent out of shape. 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how will he do that? i'll negotiate a better deal. how will yu-na gauche ate that. what magic wand do you have. >> he showed you how and he did it. the problem for obama is how will he talk about donald trump and the economy in a negative way when people are living and feeling better. that's the issue. i'm waiting to see the same nonsense rollout. people are feeling it. when you can afford to send your kids to summer camp. when your taxes are lower. >> you know why, he will justify it. he will justify it by saying we are in a dyer situation. he acts like the respect given to him has to be overruled. he thinks he can only fix it. i felt likely money try was in dyer place. i was watching my president say he wanted to formally change our country. folks left at benghazi. i would have loved to have george w. bush ride in on his white horse and say lets resist him. >> he left the stage. >> out of respect. barack obama can't help it. we have a list of accomplishments right there they want a great and free america. obama can't help it. let's have it. let's have that one too. we heard the obama case on friday and saturday. we'll have maria come on and talk about the facts and who deserves credit for the economic credit. we are turning to your headlines. the east coast is on high alert as tropical storm florid florens gain being ground. the storm could potentially hit as a high sca category hurrican. a mother and toddler daughter were killed in a flood. someone sending the president white power in an envelope. this was one of six letters sent to high profile people. trump jr.'s wipe opened it. they face-up to 30 years. naomi won the u.s. open as the first japanese tennis player. >> you owe me an apology. >> she stopped the game and called the umpire a thief. boos filled the stadium. she apologized for beating the fan favorite. >> she should have had a opportunity. >> none of it was her fault and it fell -- fell on her. >> i stuck on the word penalizing. i always say penalizing. >> i'm from brooklyn, you never know what you will get. the nfl is back in full force and the controversy remains. one fallen soldiers widow was on. she had a massage. >> they could have chosen anyone and they chose the person who disrespected the flag. there are so many great men and women that sacrificed everything. colin kaepernick didn't sacrifice anything. i would like nike and colin kaepernick come meet me. see what it is to sacrifice everything for something you believe in. they can personally look in the eyes and see what a dear sacrifice is made. >> it makes you want to stand. the nfl won't enforce their anthem policy. we talked about this all weekend. we want to enjoy and embrace things we share in sports. i love my team, they didn't kneel. that's my caveat. it's a wet blanket on the whole thing. >> i took heat yesterday. i was saying i wore nike. i didn't realize what i had on. the question is how do people feel about the boycotts. if you have cloths from the places do you continue to wear them. i disagree with a lot of hollywood celebrity. i can't boycott everything. maybe i won't continue to embrace them. if i have them already or things i enjoy i put the politics aside. >> that's what people want and respect the politics. i brought a jersey and it's a nike jersey. >> it's hard for families when you joke about that. you are a middle-class family and you can't burn it because of this situation. you just bought it for your kid. >> you buy adidas. >> can i just get gym shorts. how are you handling it. a lot of people have different ways to deal with it. coming up, we'll take a look at the budget shutdown. the border wall is in play. will the government be shutdown? 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[chanting] >> eight arrests after ordering the mob to leave the chapel hill grounds. the monument was toppled last month. a rescuer scales a wall pulling the man from the water. the man was trapped for 30 minutes between a boat and document he was taken to the hospital and since been released. as we know, i had a opportunity to concur a fear. ed was gracious enough to come along for me. pete, we can't say the same for you. pete was at a birthday party. it was amazing. taking a look at this. ♪ [ music ] >> we really doing this? come on. >> you do it. i'll wait here. >> no, you are facing your fear. >> i think we forgot something, pete. oh, you know what, pete is not here. you ready. >> fly baby fly. >> nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. >> my name is joe. this is where we sign. >> welcome. >> nice work pete. >> anything for chickens? nothing. >> where will we land? >> right here. ♪ [ music ] >> so, here we are. i probably won't panic just yet but it will happen. >> that's totally normal. you will wear a harness. it's four looks that you will be connected to me. >> ready for the gun show. >> i am. >> whoa, it's about to get real. we are getting in the plane and about to jump. >> now it's getting real. ♪ [ music ] >> i can't believe we did it. it was unbelievable. oh, my god. i thought the easiest way was no resistance. >> we went on a hot air balloon. we went in a packet and it freaked me out. i can't image what you would do if i come back. >> we'll try. >> when the door opens what's going through your mind? >> they opened a few times. that's the moment ed turned to me it was pure fear. once i saw that i said uh-huh. i started saying our father's. i didn't think any bad would happen but just wanted to pray. we were at skydive the ranch. >> surprisingly affordable. >> check it out. you pay extra for the go pro. >> it's totally worth it. >> well done you two. >> remember when hillary clinton said this on the campaign trail. >> you can put half of trump supporters in the basket of deplorable. homephobic, genphobic. >> candace owens and charlie clerk will weigh-in on kanye west running for president. ♪ [ music ] yeah, haters get used to it. >> we shall see. candace owens communications director is here. we'll go to that topic. a tweet from kanye west said 2024. his friend said this about whether or not he will run for office. >> i would think he's serious. if i would guess he would run as an independent. he sees aspects of himself in trump. he felt like trump winning means he could do it too. candace, is this a serious thing? >> he will run as my vice presidential candidate. >> we are breaking news here. >> i'm being funny. never discount kanye west. people tell him he can't do something he accomplishes it. if he's serious and willing to understand the tenants of this country there is no reason he can't be successful. >> i'll say this, when he broke the internet and said i love the candace owen thing he didn't back down. the mob came after him. he said i support the president. then he tripled down with the united states omake america gre. he's giving a whole segment of the american population permission to support the most successful president of our lifetime. for an a list pop icon to do that it's very great. >> can they understand the depth of what he's done. >> of course, that's why they try to aside t -- assassinate hs character. they understand the implications. he's willing to open the cultural conversation that needed to happen before we had a controversy. >> charlie, president obama is back from the campaign trail. i want you to take a listen and get your reaction. >> it didn't start with donald trump. he's a symptom, not the cause. he's just capitalizing on resentments that politicians had been fanning for years. paranoia has found an home in the republican party. if we don't step-up things can get worse. in two months we have the chance to restore sanity in our politics. >> i've heard speech 75 times now in various years. >> if you want to fire up our base he should continue to go on television and talk like that. >> people who don't know about this president. oh, that's why i came out and voted for president trump. it's the elitest i know better than you. no, people in middle of america were suffering. >> what is presiden president ta symptom of. >> obama's failure. he came to the response of the failures of obama presidency. the hail mary from the obama policies. we are seeing this in the kavanaugh hearings as well. i'm completely onboard with this. >> i love how he takes credit from everything. >> he said trump would crash the economy. he either has full responsibility or doesn't. happy anniversary. it's the second anniversary of this statement from hillary clinton. >> you could put half of trump supporters in the basket of deplorable. if racist, homephobic. >> happy anniversary to the basket of deplorable. we had a tremendous 19 months. they are still doing that. they are still making the same mistakes of marginalizing people in the country. you would think they would learn. >> obama said we need decency. he called us klingers. anyone that's pro-life is klingers. he said we need to bring decency back. >> elitist talking about everyone. >> doesn't work. well said and happy anniversary. a fast food restaurant banned employees from wearing political products. the workers threatening legal action in burrerville near portland oregon. they received several complaints about the political massages on uniforms. >> maybe they want to ban ice from the drink. president trump obama said - president obama said he was once kicked out of disney planed. >> a few of us were smoking in the bathroom and they escorted us out. i was booted from the magic kingdom. >> during a campaign event he admitted to the incident. it happened while he was in college. ben thinks about living the republican party. he said regularly consider it. he was responding to someone else stating they would leave the democratic party. he was among those who took shots at the president after his meeting with putin. >> hi, ben. >> he was dying to get in on that one. >> i'm saying hello to rick. >> hey, rick. >> don't leave us. >> hold on. >> we have silent rick right now. >> i turned my mic off. >> and you still have it off. >> it's coming. >> i was trying to protect you. she was hoping i was rob schmitt. >>reporter: let's take a look at the weather map. we have a lot of per sippation falling over the next few days. when we look at hurricane florence. across parts of the carolinas it's ground that's really saturated already. we'll look at significant flooding. florence looks like this right now. it's still a tropical storm. by the evening it will be turning into a hurricane. it will go through rapid transform medications. it will hit hurricane status by tomorrow. it will maintain that straight until landfall that will happen sometime thursday evening. it's too soon to say were. it doesn't mat matter the storme big. the rainfall totals could be something in the excess of 20 inches. that's why we are concerned about flooding. there will be a storm surge. the next thing is major inland flooding. today is the day you need to make your preparations and tomorrow into tuesday have everything ready. >> you are dry? and you lost your voice. >> we wouldn't hear you either. now we do. >> i'm in trouble. >> uh-huh. meanwhile, ro rod rosenstein has questions for the attorney deputy general. he will join us live, next. ♪ all the tools you need for every step of the way. make it, squarespace this is frank. sup! this is frank's favorite record. this is frank's dog. and this is frank's record shop. frank knowns northern soul, but how to set up a limited liability company... what's that mean? not so much. so he turned to his friends at legalzoom. yup! they hooked me up. we helped with his llc, contracts, and some other stuff that's part of running a business. so frank can focus on the beat. you hear that? this is frank's record shop. and this is where life meets legal. this'neil, if this flighted mission is successful, moon. you'll go down in history. we're planning on the flight being successful. the entire world's watching. five... four... we need to fail down here so we don't fail up there. three... we've got this under control. two... you're a bunch of boys. you don't have anything under control! one... first man. rated pg-13. robert mueller has been going on with his investigation for 16 months. the deputy attorney general hasn't shown a crime being committed regarding russian collusion. this has lead some to question the validity of the attorney general. aandrew mccarthy, good morning, sir. >> good morning, ed, how are you. >> i would like to try to connect dots. we had greg jared on earlier. he was talking about the documents president trump made declassified including fisa warrants signed off on by rod rosenstein. this would be the surveillance of the former trump adviser. he was part of that? yeah, i think, ed, the biggest thing is the degree to which the dossier was unverified and cobb rated was used to get it from the fisa court. what crime after two years of the investigation, what crime is president trump suspected of that when -- at around the same time rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, signed off on the warrant we are talking about. he also gave a memo a am platfom of feabringing upthe crimes. we haven't been able to see if there was a fracture bases. more to the point. i'm asking if he used the dossier for purposes of the fisa warrant. why wouldn't he have real estate lied on that? >> good question, how do you answer the question you mentioned a moment ago you have been trying to get at. what's the underline crime. we don't want to minimize the fact that he shouldn't have lied to the fbi. he should have told the truth. that was the underlined crime. >> i don't think there was one. that's why i think this is scandallest. everythin --scandallest. >> in our system we don't assign a prosecutor so a person and tell them to go off and find a crime. first there is a crime then you assign the prosecutor to investigate and if necessary prosecute it. what i think happened here is is outside the regulations a counter intelligence investigation of russia. that's important because they don't call for or authorize a special council for the obvious reason that counter intelligence is not prosecuted. it's not intended to build a case. >> i have one minute. what's the bottom line for the viewers today. is this mueller investigation finally maybe running it's course. he's now willing to take written answers from the president's team. that suggests there wasn't any collusion and they are wrapping it up. >> i don't think he's ever had collusion or there has been a crime in the nature of collusion. wrapping it up, what does that mean? does he have a crime or write a narrative report that the president is erratic and has bad judgment. the federal prosecutor is there to investigate crime. >> that leads to the question if that report would go to house democrats if they take-over the majority and try to impeach rather then a criminal prosecution as you suggest. we appreciate you breaking it down, andrew mccarthy. >> thank you, ed. it's the first sunday of the nfl season. rich is making his super bowl picks. he has good news for me and sharing it next. ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪ no matter who rides point, ♪ there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. ♪♪ and just like tyrone taylor, they know what it takes to help keep you protected. are you in good hands? it may be the first sunday of the nfl season and we found something everybody can stand from. >> this is from morgan's barbecue. first, we'll meet the chef. >> chef, how are you? >> i'm good. >> he's back by popular demand. tell us about it. >> we smoke it for 12 to 13 hours. i removed it today 6:00 a.m. >> this beautiful peace of meet, you can see the way i cut it. >> we can slice it. >> can you slice and talk at the same time. >> this is a brice -- brisket. >> this is the oldest cut. >> what's your secret? >> season it and the way you cook it. >> yeah, we have more over here. >> we have a barbecue sauce that's spicy and sweet. it's so good. >> as you slice pigs head you have predictions. let's start with the afc. >> i'll stick to my guns. i'll see the jaguars making it all the way this year. no, they didn't pay me to say that. >> watson was on my team last year and they have a good defense. >> they will be a contender. i like the chargers as well. it will be an interesting year. >> how about the vikings in the nfl. nfc. >> no. i predict, everyone can laugh at me gajaguar/giants in atlanta. >> you have been doing this for a lot of years. have we ever gone back to check your picks? >> yeah, i think out of a ten year run i had three picks. >> i need you to tell me something cool to say when i go to parties. >> this year is the first time we have a set of twins that will be playing from week one? >> no. >> that's pretty cued. they are both on the new england patriots. >> you are not allowed to talk about the patriots. >> anything that i can say about football that will make me look cool. >> go to morgan's barbecue in brooklyn. >> more fox and friends moments away. 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